The 3-on-3 hosts are back to dissect the highs and lows of the first round of the NBA playoffs. The Lakers' collapse against the Nuggets that steals the spotlight. Shari advocates for a little Lakers resilience, while Terrika Foster-Brasby delves into the controversial referee reports after some blatant missed calls during the 76ers vs. Knicks game.The crew agrees that Kevin Durant's experiment in Phoenix is leading to an offseason shake-up for the Suns. The consensus is no more super teams in the NBA.
Then Sharí shares her key takeaways from covering the Team USA Media Summit in NYC. She spoke with NBA Hall of Famer Grant Hill, who is the director of the Team USA men's basketball. Kyrie Irving was snubbed from Team USA's Paris Olympic team.
And the debate continues over whether Caitlin Clark deserves a place on the Women's Team USA squad as an incoming rookie.Then the hosts are outraged that Nike gave Caitlin Clark a signature shoe before two-time WNBA champion A'ja Wilson.
In the Jumpball segment, Shari makes a compelling case for the 76ers to bench Joel Embiid for the playoffs' remainder, while Chris pitches a game-changing idea: Beyoncé as the owner of a resurrected Houston Comets WNBA franchise. From playoff pandemonium to women's basketball power moves, this episode is a slam dunk for hoops enthusiasts everywhere.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yo, yo yo, what is good? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to another episode of the three on three Pod.
I'm Chris Williamson, joined by Tarika Foster Brasby and Scherenicole,
who's back after the business.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Missed Jo So happy to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hey, it's a good day when we get Shari full
in color for the entire show. You know what I'm saying,
not just stupid, but you were hard at work. Teamya say,
We're gonna get that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But yo, the NBA playoffs, Tarika.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Wait a minute, because I had concerns, I am concerns
in the beginning, like when we first started, not the playing,
not the plan, but like when the actual.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Playoffs first started. I said, oh, these a blowouts. I
don't want to see this. This is a priss. I
did not want to see it. I was ready to
turn it off.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Was over it. I was done.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I said, my god, what redemption happened?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Redemption happened on Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Monday?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Redemption happened, and I said, thank you for saving us
from all of the embarrassment that we were watching over
the But yes, this this playoffs was Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Was what.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You ain't got, No Si, Hey, you need to trade
Markiel you know what I'm doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'm sorry, I'll attribute, but I'm gonna use that today.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Oh Mal, Yeah, we got so much to get into
about these NBA playoffs the Western Eastern Conference. Yeah, been
a crazy show. First couple of games for some of
these series, one game for other series. But we're gonna
take a short break then really dive into it because
you know we're about to act up here on the
three on three pot.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Wow, Monday was a time.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I mean that magic beleeving Cavaliers game encrypt.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Y'all looking like, yeah, we ain't paying attention to that.
Cavaliers got the one, We got the win.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I should say, what really was a dramatic showing the
Knicks and the Sixers. Knicks scored eight points, eight straight
points in the last twenty seven seconds to win by three.
And then you have the Lakers or maybe we I
know you'll probably might call them the Fakers, the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You're doing the work for us. Thank you, Chris. We
have plenty of other things that we can say on
the back end of that, but thank you for kicking it.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh yeah, no, no problem, That's what I do. They
tricked off a twenty point lead. And this wasn't just
the lead that happened like in the first quarter or
second quarter. It happened in the third quarter where they
completely dominated out executed Nicole Okicic, Mike Loan. Jamal Murray
was one of the best players for the Lakers going
into that fourth quarter, right, and he puts a dagger
(03:09):
in lebron in the Lakers heart with a shot over
Anthony Davis, who, ironically he was complaining about how he
wasn't on Defensive Player of the Year top three finalists
and looked for the first three quarters really good.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then fourth quarter. I don't know where he at.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
He might be behind your chair. He probably went behind
your chair during the fourth core.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Hey, that'd be impressive with his tall ass, you know
what I'm saying. He shrunk down, But yo, how I am.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So it's one of.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Those things where I feel like the Lakers they just
might as well call the Denver Nuggets their daddy, right,
You remember how did that with the Yankees when the
Yankees were spanking his ass.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Ten straight wins now, Scharie, the floor is yours.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I'm so late and I just echoed stay sentiments uncommon favor. Yes,
you all, I'm dipping in. I'm dipping into being a
non Lakers fan right now. It's totally fine. I actually
got up this morning I was thinking about Chris as
well being and wondering if he would need intensive therapy
after what occurred in Game two. But you know, here's
(04:21):
the thing. We saw Lebron and the Lakers really play
arguably one of their best games of the year. They
pulled out all the stops and they still couldn't finish,
which says a few things to me. Number One, you're
just not that good as a team. Number Two, Father
(04:43):
time he comes for all of us, Lebron James, I'm
hoping that he sat and laid in a hyperbary chamber
directly after that performance, because he's going to need an
entirely new body in order to come out and give
us anything close, in my opinion, to what we got
in Game two. So sit with the realities that you're
(05:03):
just not that team. My bigger issue is because for me,
you're gonna lose already, we know this. I hope that
you I just for the because I love the Lord
and I have grace and mercy for people. I hope
you get a win, because nobody wants to go two
years losing to the same team over and over and
over again. Nobody wants that. It's mad for ego. But
it's the complaining. To me, it's the tantrums. I can't
(05:25):
do the tantrums. And this is why I will never
call Lebron James the gulp Chris in particular, this is
why the e Q is too low. You're almost forty
years old. You blew a twenty point lead, and you
sat there and complained about the referees. One call. You
blew a whole, a whole twenty point lead, and now
(05:46):
we're complaining about the refs. Now we're throwing a tantrum.
This is the same person who arguably is the cornerstone
of the flopping rule having to be having to be made. No, no, no, no,
no no, we need to go to the tape. This
is why I love editing, because the producers and editors
they're gonna throw it all these all these clips of
Lebron flopping the air. Please throw them in there so
(06:08):
we can all see. So I'm so confused. How you
take and then you throw in the next game game,
a totally different scenario, and you try to use that
to justify your argument. And guess what, guys, you bleed
from the heads. So guess who else throws a tantrum?
Anthony Davis? Isn't that fitting? They look like a bunch
of big cry babies. I hope, just for the sake
(06:29):
of loving the game of basketball and having a sense
of pride, that they come back stronger, better, just because
I love basketball too, I love the competitiveness of it.
But if you love this game, if you play this
game because you have a passion for it and you
understand competitiveness, I don't want to hear any more tantrums.
I don't want to hear any more complaints. Play the game.
Beat this team, period, because anything else you do or
(06:51):
say at this point is completely moot. Sorry Chris, Sorry
to those men. I'm sorry to everybody that keeps sitting
around thinking the Lakers are gonna somehow miraculously be that team.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Sorry, the saga continues en scene.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I don't even I don't even know how to follow that,
because what I don't even know how to follow that?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I to feel good for a minute, I feel good
when Lebron has a pretty decent game and the Lakers
still lose. That is the fan in me, just because
that's just the Detroit in me. I ain't gonna never
support nothing. It's just not gonna never happen.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
That's just the Detroit me.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
The analyst in me, though, actually feels bad. The analyst
in me actually feels bad because I cannot imagine La
replicating this performance again or the remainder of this series.
And I know we're gonna talk about they talking about
(07:56):
we gotta go and protect home court. All of that
is great, but you can't protect Anthony Davis staying out
of foul trouble because he was cooking before. Then then
all of a sudden, the man only one shot. That's disciplined.
You've been in the league way too long to continue
to make those kind of errors. You got to play
more discipline. So that's number one.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Number two, you.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Got a wide open look, Bron, wide open look. You
were not finishing at the rim as well as you played.
There were things that you could do to be just
a bit better. And while I'll agree because we're gonna
get to the refs and the men, we're gonna get
to the refs when we talk about.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
That Nick Sixers game.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I don't care about your face, Chris the Something has
to be done about what these men are doing, so.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
We don't get to that. In a second.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Quite disagree with Bron's point about what is going on
with the refs and how they're looking at things. Because
we all saw Dangelo Russell gets slapped in the face.
We can't act like that didn't happen. We absolutely saw
that happen. However, I am one of those people who
strongly believes do not leave the game in the hands
(09:04):
of the stripes.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You absolutely get to the.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Point where you have to depend on.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Foul calls, where you have to depend on reps making
the correct calls on any scenario.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
If you've gotten to that point in the.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Game, that means for three quarters, especially if it happens
in the fourth, that means for three quarters you've not
done what you were supposed to do. But at the
end of the day, I think the Lakers played the
best game that they're going to play in this playoffs,
and it still wasn't enough. Jamal Murray still made everybody
shut up. I mean on Lake, the Lakers bench shut up,
(09:38):
everybody else in the building and went crazy, including me
even in the building.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
And lost my mind.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But to say, I'm surprised that the Lakers even got
to the NBA playoffs because for a while it looks
like they weren't gonna make it. They're here. Congratulations that
they're here. Wonderful to see that you're here. But it's okay,
say this is just not our year.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You had a performance like that, and I mean, you
had a performance like that, and Joker still gave me
twenty twenty and.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Ten, like, come on, what are we doing? So it
is what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It's cool, great job. Y'all will probably get a game
in LA. I'm not saying you're getting swept. That's disrespectful.
I don't believe y'all are a sweep team or anything
like that. But if you play that strong and you
still lose, says a lot, says a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I got a question for both of you all.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Are you switching off on Murray in the in the
final seconds or if you're the if you're coach Ham,
I'm not. I mean, I know, I know, be lokay, really,
I mean, it ain't too much you can do that shot.
I thought that's was a little lazy. I just felt
like they could have come with something different.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I'm not switching.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And two points to that, I also think that shots
that shot reminded me of about four years ago.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Remember when Kahai Leonard he just crazy random.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Buzzer beater on Joel Ebie Joel linbe It was well defended,
it was, it was what it was. I kind of
feel like that, although it wasn't as well defended, it
was one of those shots where it just kind of
was what it was. I don't think he would have
missed that regard like, I don't think he would have
missed that regardless of what the score would have been.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
So it just kind of was. It was just one
of those bounces to me. But I wouldn't have made
that switch.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I mean, you got Anthony Davis, you know who a
lot of people think is one of the best defenders,
if not the best defender in the league. And Jamar
Murray even said it like he could even see the
shot go in because of Davis's long, outstretched hands arms.
But yeah, I'm okay with it, right, Like there are
a lot of in game adjustments or lack of adjustments
(11:46):
that the Lakers could have made that would have prevented
Jamal Murray from even being in that position.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
But when we get to the.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Referee situation, it is hilarious to hear Lakers fans complaining
about being on the bad end of a whistle when
this season they average twenty four free throws per game,
that's the second most in the league, only behind Orlando.
They get very good calls a lot of the times,
(12:16):
d Low and Austin Reeves, Lebron flopping here and there
on touch fount like, so I'm not I got no
sympathy for you.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I have no sympathy for you.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I got sympathy for everybody in the NBA after that,
especially the neighbors, especially to say, you know, when a
report came out for the record, I hate that report.
I hate that report so much because for why you're
telling me that we were all right, and.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I hate the report like I hate it.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
But the Sixers have been the victim of the worst
calls at the end of games that have honestly put
them in very peculiar positions to lou those games because
of incorrect calls and the two minute report that comes
out after all of them games completely make the Sixers look.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
More and more right.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And if they were to foul a grievance against the
NBA for these for the way that they're being officiated,
they would be well within their right to do so,
because it's ridiculous. First of all, not only was there
a miss call, Chris, I apologize because I don't even
know if you were getting ready to get into this game,
but damn it was to me. It's wild to me,
(13:31):
and I cannot understand how three things can all happen
at the same time and not a single official season.
There was Nick Nurse on the side trying to call
time that was Joel and b trying to call time out.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
There was Maxi on the floor while getting mangled, trying.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
To call time out, and nobody sees it, nobody does anything.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I cannot understand it.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
That's just one number two I know ever thought I
would care to see a file being challenged, a call
being challenged at the end of the games. I'm like,
at the end of the game.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
It was the end of the game.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
But I was so happy that Nick Nurse challenged the
foul calls that he did, because it continued to prove
that they are really incompetent as they're officiating close matchups
at the end of games, and too often the Sixers
have been the victims of being on the wrong end
of those incorrect calls that have cost them games. Now,
there were other things in this game that the Sixers
(14:28):
clearly could have done better, but I because they had.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
A fourteen point lead and lost it. But I will
say that I was so pissed at the.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Officiating more than anything in this game, because it wasn't
just simple human errors. They were like blatant miss calls,
no calls, no nothing. And if I'm the Sixers, I'm
absolutely seeing if my union files agreements because like at
this point, it's out of control.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, they actually are playing the file agreements. Yeah, so
you read their mind over the first two games, right,
not just this game, because it actually.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Happened in the Miami game as well. Like, come on, Like,
at this point, it's it starts to feel a little biased.
And I'm not saying it is, but I'm saying I'm
if I'm in that locker room, I feel a bit biased.
And the frustration that you could see from Joel and
b was very evident. In that press conference, and I
know there were some who were criticizing him.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I'm talking about or you can't look defeated. That man
wasn't looking defeated.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
That man was looking pissed and frustrated, and quite honestly,
he looked like he wanted to tell all the reporters
to get the hell about the locker room.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But what it does, What this does, though, is.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
He's gonna take this fine for calling out the officials.
Taking the fine is gonna be worth putting the NBA
on notice, putting the officials on notice, and when they
get back to Philadelphia, they will have to try to
call the game the right way because everybody has now
been put on notice about.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
How they've been refed the entire time.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
So if I'm Joel and b cool, I'll take the fine, whatever,
a little thirty twenty five thous whatever, That little fine
is nothing in compare to it. And I think I've
read that if he doesn't cure find that the Sixers
are going to pay the fine for him, And if
that's that's why it is, what it is on that level,
But something has to be done. I know the Lakers
are cry babies, but in this scenario.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Valid valance sustained, very valid.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, No, they were letting.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I think she just wants to disagree today because he
missed the two of us against him.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Chris, you know what. No, No, that's a new tactic.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Now go ahead and go in there.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Okay, listen, they letting these dudes play like, Yes, Jalen
Bruntson got some jersey of Tyrese, Maxi and Maxie was
you know fault right, I'm saying in real time if
you slow it down, of course, that's some jersey.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
What they mean, how would you describe it?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
By the letter of the law, that is a foul,
But in the playoffs, by the letter of the law
that is a foul. But in the playoffs we have
seen them allowed to be these players allowed to be
much more aggressive and get away with more physical contact.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So which one is it, Tarika? Which one is it? Cheri?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Do you want the rest to let them play or
do you want to call every ticky TACKI foul?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Okay, you want them to let them play, but please
because we want them to let them play. So you said,
you're talking yanking. But but to Tarika's point earlier that
time out, that lack of them not calling that time
out was a big deal, especially because there were several
people on the sixer side calling for that. That is
(17:32):
a legitimate miscall. So I think when things are blatant,
I think that's the bigger complaint. Yes, for even me,
I expect to see more physicality in the playoffs, actually
look forward to it. But when it gets to the
point where calls are being made outside of the physicality
of the game itself that are impacting the overall of
a series, that's where the problem lies for me. You
want to tuggle a jersey, that's fine as long as
(17:53):
things don't get out of control. But it's it's those
other things that ultimately really to me Tanky experience, even
of watching these games and of keeping up with what's
going on the playoffs, that is that is the most unsettling.
I'd say it that way.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, Okay, I'm christ.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I do care.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'm not even a Knicks fan. I just I just
live in New York, that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But I enjoy seeing you d native, but not the Wizards. Okay,
we we on the Milwaukee Bucks, Johnest that's my guy.
But yeah, I do think there's some legitimate legitimacy to that,
and it is discouraging. Going back to Taarrika's point, like
those two many reports there, it just makes fans and
(18:41):
the media and players that much more upset because you
ain't gonna play the game again back to that time
when you messed up, so it's kind of worthless.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And you know what else is interesting too, It happens
a lot in New York. And this is not me
being funny, but it genuinely happens a lot in New York.
And I know that we joke around a lot when
we talk about conspiracy theories and you know, the script
and all of that other good stuff. But if you're
someone who honestly believes in that kind of stuff, like
you would have a valid case when it comes to
(19:12):
playing in the garden. And I know it's like the
knickses the New York is the mecca. A lot of
people would love, for various reasons, to see the Knicks
move on to the finals, maybe win a championship for
whatever reason. And that's fine, Like I am honestly not
judging that, but I do think that you have to
be cognizant of certain things. Because here's the Pistons fan
(19:32):
of me again, and I know my team wasn't shit
this year, but I know you all remember at the
end of a Pistons game there was a lot of
controversy about a miscall in New York that honestly costs
the Pistons the game. And so there are other scenarios
and other throughout the course of this year where it
happens more frequently in New York.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Again, I'm not blaming the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I'm not saying anything about that, but I am saying
that if I'm a conspiracy theorist and I'm one of
those people that say, hey, something is funny to help
the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Move along, these are the kinds of things that people
can revert back to.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So they really got to watch their officiating, but they
really got to be careful with how they're officiating in
New York because it looks biased.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So you're saying the NBA is a goddamn suspect. I'm
what you're saying. I can explain.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
The script is scripted screaming. I don't know who wrote it,
but your spot on.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I don't know either, But yeah, it's uh, it's been
dramatic to say the least, and controversial, as I feel
like it's always been. But we have a lot of
fun on this show, and uh, you know, we're going
to get to some more topics here later as the
Team USA for the men and women's teams are preparing
to go at the Olympics in Paris twenty twenty four
(20:52):
in the summer, and Chari actually had a front row
seat to the whole experience leading up to it.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Of course we're gonna talk about that in just a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Okay, So I don't mean to overtake your show, Chris,
because I feel like I'm gonna do that a lot
today and it's our show.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
When something's sitting on your experiences.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Some of the people, I gotta get it out.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
So I know that we were supposed to talk about
Team USA, and kind of in a way, I think
we are because who I'm about to ask you about
is actually playing for Team USA.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
But let's put a pending that real.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Quick, because before we get off this NBA conversation, what
in the hell is going on in Phoenix?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Just real quick. I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I don't know why I thought Kevin Durant and nim
because that was right, is right?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Kevin Durant and.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Nim I don't know why I thought they were actually
gonna bring some fire and make this to this. You know, this,
this three six matchup worth something, and it's not happening.
They got destroyed.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Is it just me?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Or it's Phoenix another team that probably just needs to
just let this go and start over next year.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
It's it just me, Cherie, or am I tripping?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's not just you? The question becomes what is the problem.
I do think there needs to be an evaluation of
what this team could look like moving forward, because what
they have is not good enough. It's just not It
could be a chemistry situation issue. You know, we had
injuries and all different things going on, but you're entirely
too talented for us even be having this conversation. So
(22:24):
if you're if you're this talented, what else could be
the problem? But I think the assumption that every super
team is going to dominate that that's gone right now.
I don't know if I don't know if that ideal
will be revived at some point, but right now, at
least in my opinion, it should not be something that
we assume definitely need some changes made.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, yeah, because you got you got to look at
it like they just signed Rayson Allen to an extension.
He's been playing exceptional ball right since he got to
the Suns coming over from Milwaukee. But he did not
show up. Well, you some nrkis did not show up. Well,
Devin Booker didn't even get over twenty points.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Like? And Katie he had thirty one? Right, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But I just think there's the roster construction is so flawed,
even after they tried to make the moves like Royce
O'Neil and other guys, that they have to rely so
heavily on their big three offensively, and then there's some
defensive they're lacking in the defensive department at times with
some of their players. That Yeah, going back to answer
(23:30):
your original question, Arrika, the Sons will be looking in
the mirror. I will be looking themselves in the mirror
next season or this offseason.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Yep, all right, my bad, Chris, you got it.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I say, yeah, hey, Cherie, you were act you were
in the team. You're say environment right when you were
on assignment, So what was that? What was that experience like?
And yeah, just take us inside that whole deal.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
It was really cool overall. So it was the Team
USA media some and it was in New York City.
It's three days and you have Olympians, Paralympians, athletes that
are going to be competing over the next few months
to try to make Paris. And the basketball panels obviously
were really cool. Three on three was really dope as well.
But Grant Hill was there. You know, he's a managing
director of Team USA amongst other things, and I really
(24:25):
got a chance to just to talk to him about
how he applies obviously his experience as an Olympian and
also as a former player to this particular team, and
also was there anything in particular that was applicable to
his career but not so much with this generation of athletes,
And so, you know, his response was, I just it's
just kind of a it's kind of a take in
a give and take for me, you know. But he's enjoying,
(24:46):
you know, obviously enjoyed putting this team together. He feels
really confident about, you know, what they have and how
well that they'll do. And so it was nice to
hear from him about that. And then Coach Reeve on
the other side, on the women's side, and Brianna Stewart
where a part of that panel as well, and so
they kind of just talked about, you know, what the
expectation is on the women's side, and also the growth
obviously of the game and so very very exciting. Coach
Reeve knows what she's doing. I mean, been there, done that,
(25:08):
so you know on both ends. Just basically hearing those
conversations and also just knowing who's on these teams, who's
leading these teams, I feel very confident. I'm just I'm
going on the limit say it. Neither one of them
should lose a game, not one game, just saying if
they you know, if you do, didn't get that out early,
but we can get this no metal. But I'm just
(25:29):
so impressed with how both of these teams are constructed
just all around. I think it's going to be an incredible,
incredible Olympic Games in Paris. But it was really honor
just to be in the vicinity of these incredibly talented, driven,
amazing athletes.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, that's really dope to see and listen, We've been
spoiled here in the United States for years.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
We've been spoiled those years that we what year was that?
That was four?
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I think it was that men team like got like gold,
I mean got like bronze or something. Yeah, like that
was the end of the world for the United States.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Is it as we know it? For Team USA?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
We don't place second, we don't place third, Like if
we're not worst in basketball, there's problems. And Team USA
on the women's side too, calls granted, still got gold.
But I remember in World Basketball was it a year ago?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Two years ago? I want to say it was two
years ago in the w B.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
The World Basketball Classics or something like that, get me
honest with the name. But it was scary like Spain, Australia,
like teams who really are good teams but just really
should not be able to hang with Team USA.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
They were cutting it way too close. So I am
looking forward.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
To this year and I know that there are some
new names that are being introduced to Team USA this
year is yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
And before we go into new names, I don't mean,
I don't mean to jump in real quick, Chris, because
I know I know that's a point for you to
go ahead and take over. Yes, it's to Rika's point,
like that was one of the bigger parts of the
conversation as well, just how strong the game, how strong
players have gotten on the European side, and how competitive
you know, just from a global standpoint, the game of
basketball has become on the men and men's and women's side,
(27:21):
So I think it will be interesting. But it's important
to note like everybody is aware and on notice, so
every people you need to do right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Hey, look, you remember not too long ago Dylan Brooks
and the Canadian team they were cooking. Yeah, yeah, they
put them on blood, they put them on blast. Phoebe yeah,
pheb yeah, feeble yes, the fever world.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
They forget my brain.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, I know it's hard because yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Don't usually associate Team USA whatever whatever lead they're playing
in or tournament with them losing or playing in top
tight games. Now, the one thing that is interesting on
the men's side before we get into the women Tyree's
Halliburton in over Kyrie Irving and Kyrie talking about Hey,
I with some brothers will but I grew up in
(28:02):
a time where you know, you had to try out
to make the team, and I'm all for that. I
love that competition, training camp, you name it. So I
have no issues with him saying that of course, I'm
sure politics are involved, but on the women's side.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
That's the only reason. Chris, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that
is the only and it's unfortunate, Like it's unfortunate all
the way around, because yes, I would have loved to
see Kyrie on this team. I appreciate the way he
handled it and added a little competitive edge there. But
it just speaks to again the intersection of politics and
sports and how dangerous that can be if there's irresponsibility
(28:42):
on either side. So really really sucks. Honestly, I'm still
bummed about it. But no shade to anybody else, but
I'm a little disappointed.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, it's the way Tyre's Haliburn was having an amazing
first half of the year. Then he had that hamstring
injury and he just hasn't been able to get back
to that MVP form. And that's with Pascal Siakam coming over,
who's been really great as well, was wonderful in that
game one that they lost the Bucks.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But how about Kaitlyn Clark?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Right, if there could be a show where we didn't
Because I don't feel like these trolls on Twitter, I've
been tussling with them. I don't even I'm just I'm
just I might I might be on my Beyonce here
and just go on mute because I'm actually sick of y'all.
I'm done talking to you. You don't listen, You're not
listening to what we're saying, and all you want to
(29:33):
do is just take what we say is half a
person and then go on Twitter and want to argue
with us and be mean.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I don't know if I feel like I'm married them.
I feel like I'm married him. You just want to
argue you.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I don't know if I feel like y'all this week,
but we'll see continue.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
They live for that.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
They live for being miserable and twisting your words or
out of context. But the news is that Kaitlyn Clark
is going to be given her tryout for this USA team.
Excuse me, is going to be how she plays in
the w early on. And they added, right the people
(30:09):
responsible for making these decisions that we know it's going
to be unfair to some people, which lets me know
we know what we understand what's about to happen. What
is the point of assimbling a team if tryouts and
training camps do not matter. I do not understand that
(30:30):
for the life of me, and they the more they
do things like this, they're putting even a bigger target
on Caitlyn Clark. Again, this has nothing to do with
Caitlyn and how she plays right and who she is
a person. This has to do with the people around her,
media companies, team USA, decision makers all that. And I'm
(30:55):
not a fan because somebody's gonna get screwed, right, because
I already have questions about Dana Tarassi being on that team.
And you know, they're not going to give up a spot.
She's not losing her spot, you know, based on the
longevity and the legacy, even though she could be a
liability for all we know, as we've seen over the years.
And then somebody else, right, that bothers me, that really
(31:18):
bothers me, Tarika.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
So in all fairness, this would not be the first
time that this has happened where a rookie would be
able to make the team based on their performance and play.
I know brion A Steward did it before when she
was a rookie coming off four championships. Let that sink
in and I want to say, gosh, I want to
(31:42):
say it was Kandice Parker in eight who got an
opportunity to, yeah, to try out to do that as
a rookie too. So so to be fair, it's not
like this is the first time that we've seen this,
so I get it. I just think that the talent
and the WNBA has grown exponentially to the point that
(32:04):
you don't necessarily need to use a rookie in this
particular circumstance because there are so there are a few
other players who play that same position who have, in
my opinion, possibly already earned an.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Opportunity to try out for that spot. And it's just
as simple as that.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
It's not necessarily about talent. But I think there are
some things that you truly and genuinely have to earn
and to represent your country on the scale and on
the magnitude that it means to be an Olympian. And
I believe that Caitlin's an Olympian already, Like she's played
on the let's say under like junior team or whatever.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
So it's not like this is new for her, like
she's done this before.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
This isn't like a new experience or something that she
hasn't hasn't been able to represent Team USA before. Although
it is a great honor to represent Team USA, I
just personally and professionally, I feel like this is not
one of the moments where it absolutely must has to
happen right and love GENEROSIETI She's the president of the
(33:15):
Connecticut Son I am the side that reported for the
Connecticut Sun, So I know her heart is in the
right place when she when she says this, I'm hoping
that so are the other people who are in the
front office for a Team USA.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
But I just I just think that there are a.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Few other players who have shown over the course of
the last couple of years that they deserve an opportunity
to play. And this is how we continue to create
this division that everybody's talking about. But that really is
that we keep doing stuff that can be perceived to.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Have ulterior motives.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
And that is and and and that is where people
are coming from with certain things. And there are those
troths who I'm sure are going to hear this and say, O,
Terrica's hating again and.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
All this other stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
No, she brings attention to the w She brings attention
to women's basketball. We've been craving and crying for attention
for years. So no one's hating, no one's mad. We
appreciate it, honestly, But there are just still some other
things that you have to genuinely by merit earn and
(34:25):
that's just that, and that's just honestly where I'm coming
from with it.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
It's just.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Let some of those who have been.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Working towards this opportunity get that opportunity before we put
on And I don't think it's fair to Kaitlin, if
we're being honest, Why don't I think it's fair to
Caitlin Because I think again, when you just look at
the structure of the team that she's going to, her
performance in college will look a little different than her
performance in the WNBA, And she could still drop twenty
(34:55):
seven points if she wants to whatever. That's fine, But
I'm also saying like what she will be requested to
do will look a little different than what she was
requested to do at Iowa and not might not, you know,
be something that the US Team USA committee or front
office or decision makers will find well enough to put
(35:16):
her on the roster for Paris. So there are just
too many different scenarios, too many if and too many
variables here that to just eliminate that, just get somebody
else to.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Do it right.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
But I got to ask, though, like, who are the
other players at her position that you feel like deserve
a spot? Because you know how we always talk about
well I thought so and so should have got MVP,
or I thought so and so was like, okay, who
would you take off?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
So I got to ask you that question to hold
you accountable.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
No, no, please ask me hold.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Me that accountable, I believe. Let me see, I think
Jackie is Jackie's on the team, So I would have
had her Ryan's on the team, because I definitely would
have had Ryan. I don't think Sabrino, it's Sabrina on
the team. Yes, would have had Sabrina. Okay, let me think.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I'm key.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I'm going through all of them in all of the
teams in my head, Irique, is she on the team?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Are you sure?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I'm looking now?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Let me see, let me see.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Let us confirm here. We don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
No, she's not on a team. No, she's not on
the team.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
To Tarika's point, and a larger point, is the continued
polarization of Caitlyn Clark can be a danger that I
don't think we're necessarily talking about. Again, this has nothing
to do with her ability. She's an incredible basketball player,
and she shouldered so much pressure so well, and so
I do have to commend her for that. But I
(36:47):
said this in a commentary earlier this week. What happens
when all the eggs that we put in the Caitlin
Clark basket? What happens if some of them break? What
happens to the fickle fanfare. We're not talking about fans
like us who are entrenched in the in this game,
who love basketball, who know basketball. We're talking about people
(37:07):
that only watch because of Kaylyn Clark. So we understand
that there's so much visibility and excitability that other players
in the league are already bringing to the league. They've
been doing that. Caitlyn just adds to that. She brings
an ushers in a new wave. But if we bear
the responsibility on her to carry that alone and she
doesn't come through in the way that people that don't
(37:28):
understand that adaptation that Tarika was talking about, it could
really hinder the league. Obviously, Like, let's just be real.
The reason why she's considered for this opportunity with Team
USA is simply because of the hype that's around her.
It's gonna bring more eyes, it's gonna bring more extension,
it's gonna bring more fans. We understand that this is
about money, so I get it. But she's gonna have
(37:49):
to make some adjustments. And mind you, I'm not most
I'm not really excited about her on Team USA right
now until I see her place in defense in the WNBA.
You don't even you're not you don't even defend well.
So then we taking a step further and now you're
on Team USA. That's gonna be that's gonna be necessary.
Even the physicality at that level. I'm not all the
way sold. I'm just not. She's a hell of a shooter,
(38:11):
one of the best I've ever seen in my life.
She's one of the best pastors I've ever seen. Well.
On the other end, when it comes to the physicality
and the defensive skill set, she's behind. She even said
it herself at a press conference and said, this is
something I'm gonna have to I can't dance around the issue.
I have to play defense now. So she's maybe she
was just in a position on the collegiate level well
(38:31):
where it wasn't a requirement for her to be successful.
And she's known all this time and just took breaks.
I don't know, but until she played some defense, I'm
not convinced. All the best to her if she makes
the team good for her and hopefully she delivers. But
to both of your points, there's players that have sown
and so even as competitors, even as people even us
that understand, like there is a hierarchy. And I'm not
(38:53):
saying it. She takes somebody the same amount of time
to get some place to somewhere someone else. I'm not
saying that. But you got to earn your stripes to
a degree, and in this instance, I'm looking forward to
seeing how she fares in the w But at the
same time, you haven't earned some things, and it's just
because you haven't been there. Like there's people that there's
people that have been waiting in line, There's people that
have been doing what they need to do. There's people
(39:15):
that have been keeping this league alive that deserve the
opportunity that you're coming in and taking. Not you, but
the media bias is allowing you to take I'm gonna
say it, and other and other powers that be that
are saying we need to do this because we want
to make money. So it's just how it goes and
it's okay, and we fight through. That's what sports is about.
To Sports and money intersect on a very high level.
(39:36):
But at the same time, you know, it's frustrating for me.
But again, it's not personal to Caitlin.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I love this game.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I love this game. I played this game. It's about
just what is the fairest thing to do and in
the spirit, in the soul of this game and a competition,
I don't think it's right. But again, you do your thing,
and you do your thing in a season, girl, then
go ahead and put your uniform on it and go
get us a gold medal.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
I know that's right. And just the put a bow
on this, Chris, you asked me. Also, it just popped
in my head.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
When she starts talking about defense. The other person who
I probably would have given an opportunity to at the
guard position, Caliah Copper.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was somebody. Yeah, somebody's gonna
bring up easy So amazing two way player.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Amazing two way player. But at the end of the day,
if she make the scene, girl, go get us a go.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
We're voting for you too, Chat, We're not against you.
We're not against Kaylen Clark. We don't hate her or not.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
The fact that we have to make this clear, I'm
so tired.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
I'm gonna get a shirt made. I don't hate c.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
See right hearts. It's absurd that we have to do.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I never had a.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Disclaimer aboutsing any other but I gotta you gotta make
disclaimers about it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
And I'm not even even a disclaimer girl, because Loki
I said what I said and les voice. But I'm
just trying to be nice to y'all.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
I'm just trying to be nice.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
This part just claimers aren't my style.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
So ability politics.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
You got a few more with me and me, and
we just don't say that we like you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Oh my goodness, oh lord, just one more before we
go to break uh, And we're still gonna be talking
about Kayla Clark. The reality is she's probably not even
be playing that much. She's gonna be the last person
on that bench and she'll likely get You.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Don't care how good you are. You know, I ain't
even gonna say no more. We ain't gonna say no nose.
You know why, because all of these new fans are
about to learn what we already know as it relates
to coaches and players in this league.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Y'all got a red, go off, but go off, go off?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Come on now, two to three minutes, that's to to
five minutes. That's all I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Uh, but yeah, we're gonna hit that short break, go
to break, and then we're gonna talk about Kaylyn Clark
also making more news and headlines, uh with the shoe
deal from a certain company. Recently, Kaitlyn Clark learned, or
we learned, that Kaylyn Clark was going to be getting
a contract with Nike right in addition to a signature
(42:09):
shoe deal that is worth over twenty million dollars. It's
a multi year agreement, and it's incredible for her and
her family. She's going to be living well for so
many years, and that's wonderful news because of the attention
she brings her transcendent talent. And of course, we still
have to see if it's going to be generational, because
(42:30):
I think sometimes we put that label on people too
early when we haven't seen their entire career play out.
But that's amazing what's not amazing is the fact that
you have Asia Wilson, a Nike athlete as well, who
has earned and won so many awards both on and
(42:50):
off the court, has a charismatic personality that few people
have in the WNBA, which is really important because we're
talking about marketability of idiots say, oh, she's not Mark
Please shut the hell up. Please shut the hell up.
She still does not have a signature shoe with Nike.
That is very that enrages me. I'm enraged by it
(43:15):
because it lets me know that Nike does not value
her the way they should. And it also lets me
know that black women, black people just you know, you
have to work twice as hard to get half what
white people have a lot.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Of the times.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
And again, this isn't about CC.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
This is about the executives and who they deem to
be marketable, who they think it can sell. And I hate,
and I'm not going to go on this too long,
but Tarika, I hate when I see people on Twitter
and other social media platforms say, well, Nike you they
wouldn't lose out on money, like if it was gonna
make money, they would they would of.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Course go all in on Asia, right, what do you
not know how this country was founded?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Do you not know how white people people decided to
lose out on money because of their racism?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
If you want to go there, because I'm sitting here
just trying to be still, is fire shut up in
my bones like Jeremiah. But I don't want to be
like Jeremiah. I wanted to leave me alone. So I'm
I'm just gonna listen.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Naucherie were on the same we Chris, We are all
on the same page.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Because there are a couple couple of quick points here,
quick point and number one. I need people to know
who like to argue me back and forth on Twitter,
social media, Instagram.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Whatever Asia has player.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Editions, pees and signature shoes are not the same peas
or shoes that are already existing for another person's signature shoe,
and they have created a special addition for this particular
person to market.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
So please stop telling me Asia gotta shoe. Asia does
not get schoe. She has a pe that's number one. Now. Marketability, wow,
black women.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Marketability black women is marketability because white women men are
doing what black women do and they're getting you know.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
What, I got to go, Soljah, did you just oh,
that's it, that's it, Thank you Jesus.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Lord, Lord Law.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
They've been doing what we do for years, and it's
been cool, and it's been que. Black women been wearing
braids forever. But let one of the white girls come
up in here with some braids on, and it's, oh,
my god, this is the new things.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
No, baby, we've been doing it. We've been doing it.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
We've had hips, we've had ass we've had all of
these bodies for years. All of a sudden, all of
these white women got these nice little shapes and they
want to come out with these shapers, and y'all are
running to go buy all this stuff because they got it.
We've had it, we've had it, and we were called ugly,
we were called not beautiful, we were not the status quo. So, sweetheart,
we are marketability. We are everything about black women is marketable. Now,
(45:51):
let's go to Asia. Specifically, he's a member of Alpha
Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. It's one of the largest black
sororities in the world. That alone makes her marketable.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
It's the same.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Organization as Madame Vice President Kamala Harris, the same organization
as many other people. She's marketable. The D nine would
have her back. They would have her Black women have
her back. That's number one. Number two, you can't walk
I was just in Las Vegas a week ago. You
can't walk in Las Vegas and not see you twenty
two jerseys somewhere people represent Asia Wilson. Okay, she is
(46:24):
marketable among fans, all right. Number three. Not only is
she a New York Times best selling author pree hello Hello,
but she not only presents herself well. And I'm not
saying present well like black women, because I hate when
people say, oh, you speak well. No, she presents her
self well. She's an educated person. She presents herself her community,
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and she is authentic.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
People love all the density.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
She is marketable. She's an entrepreneur. She has a candle company.
He is marketable. Y'all need to let it the f
go with this bullshit about she's not marketable.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
They're no one's buying.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
No. You know why every other person is marketable in
the way that y'all say it is because the company
gave them an opportunity and.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Actually marketed them.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
They actually put their faces on billboards, they put their
names on places, they put their their things on things.
That is how someone becomes even more marketable. Skylarding and
Smith was one of the first marketable women in the WNBA.
She was the og of marketability, and you see how
that happened. We're not gonna do this, y'all gonna quit
(47:40):
playing with us. Y'all are going to quit playing with us.
Y'all are playing in our face way too long talking
about what is marketable and what is not.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
We're sick of it. Give Asia a shoe. That's it,
and that's all from me.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Okay, you just dropped the mic. I don't really have
much to add. I agree with every single thing that
you both have said. Obviously, as a black woman, I'm
very triggered by the mirre inkling of someone even thinking
in their brain that black women aren't marketable. I'm not
going to go back down that rabbit hole because Terika,
she tied it up with a very nice bow. I'll
say this. I think that number one to the marketability
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standpoint again, it's about investment. Kaylen Clark. The reason why
she is where she is in part not just because
of her incredible athletic ability, but because all of these
different advertisers, companies, whatever decided they wanted to invest in her.
They literally beat us into submission into falling in love
with her. Not to say that she's not easy to
fall in love with, but again that's what marketing does.
(48:38):
Same as you listen to a song over and over again,
the radio just plays it over and over again. You
start off, I hate that song to day, not that's
my jam. That's Kaylen Clark is the jam right now.
The fact that she has athleticism on top of that
just adds to it. Asia Wilson been that jam. She
like an old school record that never gets played out,
that ever gets played out. Body that can put a
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call out to Usher Raymond and get down to that,
get a get a serenade. You know, she's not marketable.
Shelter owned the social media on the Twitter, the man responded,
she's down to the concert, so I don't want to
hear it. And mind you, if you just look at
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her social media behavior and the people that then fall
in line, it is actually incredible. So for me, this
is just also a call out to the w n
b A And it's not a criticism, it's literally a
call to action. You also play a part in this,
So she's somebody right now that you are very much
looking at being treated unjustly, and we all know it,
(49:44):
even if you don't want to believe it, it's happening.
I would love to see the league get behind her
and invest in her brand in a way that maybe
they haven't done before, and this lead to another wave
of them doing this with other players. There's been a
lot of resurgeon of commercials old a NBA commercials, the
Kyla Pratt commercial with Sidney Cooper and Tina Thompson and
Lisa Leslie. You know you're you're in Chryl Swoops. Let's
(50:08):
get back to that that the league was. It was
a baby, and we had investments from brands at the time,
it was Nike investments from brands saying hey, we want
to make people love this game all right now. Just
a new iteration of that needs to happen on the
commercial side, but also on the w n b A side.
So I hope that happens with Age in particular because
she just flat out deserves it and she's earned it,
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but also with other players that have really been bearing
the burden of what this league has looked like at
its lowest point, and also they should be able to
enjoy the highs of where it is right now, where
I believe it's gonna continue to go. That's all I got.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
I'm Asia juvenile, Always be the gym, never be a
time nine and.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Elementary. When you heard that's all come off, she would
be the jam. But she is the gem, been the gym,
will always be the jam. There's no debate about that.
Argue with your mama, argue with your grandma, all right,
but we're not arguing over here.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
We always get along.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Even if Tureka and Seria sometimes bully me, I say
bully and quotes.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
All in love. That's what friends.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
You know, family's about. You know, we're not always gonna agree.
We have great, greater, honest and interesting dialogue. But we
have one more segment before this show wraps up, because
the producer like, yeah, y'all got to go.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Jump Ball is coming up next. Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Time for jump Ball, and this edition of jump Ball
is going to be a free for all. Right, it
can go anyway, go out of bounds, can go and
then the hoop right or wherever. And I'm gonna give
the floor to Tarika first. This jump Ball for me
is just simply a message.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
This message is for the nine hundred and ninety nine thousand,
nine hundred and twenty one people who have decided to
come for me over the last week and a half.
Speaker 5 (52:19):
I don't love that number. I don't know how to.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Turn my notifications off on Instagram, so I keep you
every one of y'all, and I have three things to
say to you. Number One, thank you for the views,
for the downloads, for the engagement. Because what you have
all done while trying to come for me is increase
the visibility and marketability of the three on three.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
Podcast I've got today.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
We appreciate you, we love you, and we want you
to continue to bring your bad takes and opinions to
help us to increase and grow our our podcast, our show,
our marketability.
Speaker 5 (52:57):
We love that.
Speaker 4 (52:58):
Number Two, I have been in this business for damn
near sixteen years. I do not care about your thoughts
and opinions of me. I do not care if you
think that my name should be she does not know sports.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
Thank you it is. I love it.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
I do not care if you guys talked about my
earring falling off last week.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
That is totally okay.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
I do not care.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
You know why, because revert back to number one. We
appreciate your views, your engagement, and your increased up access
to our page. In number three, Last, but not least,
these celebrities and athletes do not know you.
Speaker 5 (53:41):
They do not know y'all. Y'all are going hard.
Speaker 4 (53:44):
For people who couldn't pick you out of a lineup.
It is ridiculous. Stop, slow down, breathe.
Speaker 5 (53:50):
There are real people who do not even know you exist.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
So relax, okay, because all you're doing is fee in
to number one, giving us views, engagement, and marketability. So
I say all of that to say, please continue to
provide all of your opinions. Please continue to come for
me as much as you like, because all you're doing
(54:16):
is just blowing up my notifications and increasing our ability
to get paid.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
Thank you. I'm done.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Boom. The blog is I the blog is my drop.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
I let me just move all the way past that.
But everything she said pretty much is the same as
I say. We got our experience difference, but other than
that same thing, keep it coming really quickly, Joe ellenbiid
we didn't really get to this earlier in the show.
I applaud his efforts and his courageousness to play in
(54:50):
this series, but the way my anxiety is set up,
I can't even halfway enjoy the games, in part because
I'm concerned about him hurting himself even worse. I don't
think in this instance it's worth it to continue. And
I know that's a bull statement to say, but I
think he needs to sit down somewhere. I don't want
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to see any more shots of him getting his knee massage.
I don't want him to fall again. I don't want
him he's limping around. The commentators are talking about it.
He's limping now like it's too much. And I personally
don't want to have to keep taking calm, which is
a magnesium supplement to ease my attentions and anxiety because
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I'm scared he's going to hurt himself worse. I think
he needs to I think the six I hate to
say it, guys, I think they need to sit this.
He needs to sit and that needs to be it,
and they need to just reevaluate and be ready for
next year, which they're a great team. But I am
so concerned about Joe ell ebiid and I'm not I
don't even know the man, but I feel like I
know him I watch scared now every game. I'm so
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concerned about him, and I just think that I don't
think it's worth it. They need more for him to
keep playing.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
Jump listen, I'm with you on that or I feel
like that's not a bad, bad take because other people
have talked about it where you just hold your breath
every time he goes down, and that's not fun to see.
And I think, you know, for the Sixers to have
longevity with him, it's a double edged worker. Is like,
(56:24):
all right, how much longer is their window with him? So, okay,
you play him, but at what at what cost?
Speaker 3 (56:31):
Right you?
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Just if you want to throw it in, let Tyrese
Maxie run the show. Okay, cool, Tarika. I know you're
huge on Tyrese and he's looked like a superstar this year.
But if you're saying, oh, we're just gonna put on
the season and other people might so yeah, I'm not
sure they have any easy decision.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
But just need Joe and b to get get healthy.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
What was really healthy to see though, is the fact
that people try to shit on don Staley and diminish
her impact on the game and not give her Flowers
while they were on this incredible undefeated run when she
became the first black coach man or woman to lead
an undefeated team to a national title. Is the fact
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that Beyonce watches South Carolina and Don Staley got the
whole Flower arrangement and everything.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
So what I need is for Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
To maybe get into the ownership box and maybe bring
back because she's a Houston girl, Houston woman, bring them back,
bring them back that idea. Yes, they got the money.
She's clearly a fan up in their roomy jay z
(57:46):
they it could be done.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
It makes general manager.
Speaker 3 (57:50):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
Hey yo, hey, that would be hot.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
That would be hot fire and load of people will
be showing up the games in droves. We know Beyonce
runs the world, right, but yeah, that that's my jemball.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
I just have to shout out, Beyonce.
Speaker 5 (58:12):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
Chris us out with that incredible notion of yours.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
Oh I love this. It was on my chest. That
was my chest by Carter.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, we hear you, we see you, and we love
that You've given Don Staley or Flowers when so many
other people fail to do so because they can't appreciate
its Treika said earlier one of our shows, The Magic
of a Black Woman, right now.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
That Sharia said that, but we all feel that way absolutely.
That's it for this edition of the.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
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Speaker 1 (59:13):
We out
Yo, yo yo, what is good? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to another episode of the three on three Pod.
I'm Chris Williamson, joined by Tarika Foster Brasby and Scherenicole,
who's back after the business.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Missed Jo So happy to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hey, it's a good day when we get Shari full
in color for the entire show. You know what I'm saying,
not just stupid, but you were hard at work. Teamya say,
We're gonna get that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But yo, the NBA playoffs, Tarika.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Wait a minute, because I had concerns, I am concerns
in the beginning, like when we first started, not the playing,
not the plan, but like when the actual.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Playoffs first started. I said, oh, these a blowouts. I
don't want to see this. This is a priss. I
did not want to see it. I was ready to
turn it off.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Was over it. I was done.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I said, my god, what redemption happened?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Redemption happened on Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Monday?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Redemption happened, and I said, thank you for saving us
from all of the embarrassment that we were watching over
the But yes, this this playoffs was Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Was what.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You ain't got, No Si, Hey, you need to trade
Markiel you know what I'm doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'm sorry, I'll attribute, but I'm gonna use that today.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Oh Mal, Yeah, we got so much to get into
about these NBA playoffs the Western Eastern Conference. Yeah, been
a crazy show. First couple of games for some of
these series, one game for other series. But we're gonna
take a short break then really dive into it because
you know we're about to act up here on the
three on three pot.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Wow, Monday was a time.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I mean that magic beleeving Cavaliers game encrypt.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Y'all looking like, yeah, we ain't paying attention to that.
Cavaliers got the one, We got the win.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I should say, what really was a dramatic showing the
Knicks and the Sixers. Knicks scored eight points, eight straight
points in the last twenty seven seconds to win by three.
And then you have the Lakers or maybe we I
know you'll probably might call them the Fakers, the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You're doing the work for us. Thank you, Chris. We
have plenty of other things that we can say on
the back end of that, but thank you for kicking it.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh yeah, no, no problem, That's what I do. They
tricked off a twenty point lead. And this wasn't just
the lead that happened like in the first quarter or
second quarter. It happened in the third quarter where they
completely dominated out executed Nicole Okicic, Mike Loan. Jamal Murray
was one of the best players for the Lakers going
into that fourth quarter, right, and he puts a dagger
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in lebron in the Lakers heart with a shot over
Anthony Davis, who, ironically he was complaining about how he
wasn't on Defensive Player of the Year top three finalists
and looked for the first three quarters really good.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then fourth quarter. I don't know where he at.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
He might be behind your chair. He probably went behind
your chair during the fourth core.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Hey, that'd be impressive with his tall ass, you know
what I'm saying. He shrunk down, But yo, how I am.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So it's one of.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Those things where I feel like the Lakers they just
might as well call the Denver Nuggets their daddy, right,
You remember how did that with the Yankees when the
Yankees were spanking his ass.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Ten straight wins now, Scharie, the floor is yours.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I'm so late and I just echoed stay sentiments uncommon favor. Yes,
you all, I'm dipping in. I'm dipping into being a
non Lakers fan right now. It's totally fine. I actually
got up this morning I was thinking about Chris as
well being and wondering if he would need intensive therapy
after what occurred in Game two. But you know, here's
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the thing. We saw Lebron and the Lakers really play
arguably one of their best games of the year. They
pulled out all the stops and they still couldn't finish,
which says a few things to me. Number One, you're
just not that good as a team. Number Two, Father
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time he comes for all of us, Lebron James, I'm
hoping that he sat and laid in a hyperbary chamber
directly after that performance, because he's going to need an
entirely new body in order to come out and give
us anything close, in my opinion, to what we got
in Game two. So sit with the realities that you're
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just not that team. My bigger issue is because for me,
you're gonna lose already, we know this. I hope that
you I just for the because I love the Lord
and I have grace and mercy for people. I hope
you get a win, because nobody wants to go two
years losing to the same team over and over and
over again. Nobody wants that. It's mad for ego. But
it's the complaining. To me, it's the tantrums. I can't
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do the tantrums. And this is why I will never
call Lebron James the gulp Chris in particular, this is
why the e Q is too low. You're almost forty
years old. You blew a twenty point lead, and you
sat there and complained about the referees. One call. You
blew a whole, a whole twenty point lead, and now
(05:46):
we're complaining about the refs. Now we're throwing a tantrum.
This is the same person who arguably is the cornerstone
of the flopping rule having to be having to be made. No, no, no, no,
no no, we need to go to the tape. This
is why I love editing, because the producers and editors
they're gonna throw it all these all these clips of
Lebron flopping the air. Please throw them in there so
(06:08):
we can all see. So I'm so confused. How you
take and then you throw in the next game game,
a totally different scenario, and you try to use that
to justify your argument. And guess what, guys, you bleed
from the heads. So guess who else throws a tantrum?
Anthony Davis? Isn't that fitting? They look like a bunch
of big cry babies. I hope, just for the sake
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of loving the game of basketball and having a sense
of pride, that they come back stronger, better, just because
I love basketball too, I love the competitiveness of it.
But if you love this game, if you play this
game because you have a passion for it and you
understand competitiveness, I don't want to hear any more tantrums.
I don't want to hear any more complaints. Play the game.
Beat this team, period, because anything else you do or
(06:51):
say at this point is completely moot. Sorry Chris, Sorry
to those men. I'm sorry to everybody that keeps sitting
around thinking the Lakers are gonna somehow miraculously be that team.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Sorry, the saga continues en scene.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I don't even I don't even know how to follow that,
because what I don't even know how to follow that?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I to feel good for a minute, I feel good
when Lebron has a pretty decent game and the Lakers
still lose. That is the fan in me, just because
that's just the Detroit in me. I ain't gonna never
support nothing. It's just not gonna never happen.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
That's just the Detroit me.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
The analyst in me, though, actually feels bad. The analyst
in me actually feels bad because I cannot imagine La
replicating this performance again or the remainder of this series.
And I know we're gonna talk about they talking about
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we gotta go and protect home court. All of that
is great, but you can't protect Anthony Davis staying out
of foul trouble because he was cooking before. Then then
all of a sudden, the man only one shot. That's disciplined.
You've been in the league way too long to continue
to make those kind of errors. You got to play
more discipline. So that's number one.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Number two, you.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Got a wide open look, Bron, wide open look. You
were not finishing at the rim as well as you played.
There were things that you could do to be just
a bit better. And while I'll agree because we're gonna
get to the refs and the men, we're gonna get
to the refs when we talk about.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
That Nick Sixers game.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I don't care about your face, Chris the Something has
to be done about what these men are doing, so.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
We don't get to that. In a second.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Quite disagree with Bron's point about what is going on
with the refs and how they're looking at things. Because
we all saw Dangelo Russell gets slapped in the face.
We can't act like that didn't happen. We absolutely saw
that happen. However, I am one of those people who
strongly believes do not leave the game in the hands
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of the stripes.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You absolutely get to the.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Point where you have to depend on.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Foul calls, where you have to depend on reps making
the correct calls on any scenario.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
If you've gotten to that point in the.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Game, that means for three quarters, especially if it happens
in the fourth, that means for three quarters you've not
done what you were supposed to do. But at the
end of the day, I think the Lakers played the
best game that they're going to play in this playoffs,
and it still wasn't enough. Jamal Murray still made everybody
shut up. I mean on Lake, the Lakers bench shut up,
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everybody else in the building and went crazy, including me
even in the building.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
And lost my mind.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But to say, I'm surprised that the Lakers even got
to the NBA playoffs because for a while it looks
like they weren't gonna make it. They're here. Congratulations that
they're here. Wonderful to see that you're here. But it's okay,
say this is just not our year.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You had a performance like that, and I mean, you
had a performance like that, and Joker still gave me
twenty twenty and.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Ten, like, come on, what are we doing? So it
is what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It's cool, great job. Y'all will probably get a game
in LA. I'm not saying you're getting swept. That's disrespectful.
I don't believe y'all are a sweep team or anything
like that. But if you play that strong and you
still lose, says a lot, says a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I got a question for both of you all.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Are you switching off on Murray in the in the
final seconds or if you're the if you're coach Ham,
I'm not. I mean, I know, I know, be lokay, really,
I mean, it ain't too much you can do that shot.
I thought that's was a little lazy. I just felt
like they could have come with something different.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I'm not switching.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And two points to that, I also think that shots
that shot reminded me of about four years ago.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Remember when Kahai Leonard he just crazy random.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Buzzer beater on Joel Ebie Joel linbe It was well defended,
it was, it was what it was. I kind of
feel like that, although it wasn't as well defended, it
was one of those shots where it just kind of
was what it was. I don't think he would have
missed that regard like, I don't think he would have
missed that regardless of what the score would have been.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
So it just kind of was. It was just one
of those bounces to me. But I wouldn't have made
that switch.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I mean, you got Anthony Davis, you know who a
lot of people think is one of the best defenders,
if not the best defender in the league. And Jamar
Murray even said it like he could even see the
shot go in because of Davis's long, outstretched hands arms.
But yeah, I'm okay with it, right, Like there are
a lot of in game adjustments or lack of adjustments
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that the Lakers could have made that would have prevented
Jamal Murray from even being in that position.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
But when we get to the.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Referee situation, it is hilarious to hear Lakers fans complaining
about being on the bad end of a whistle when
this season they average twenty four free throws per game,
that's the second most in the league, only behind Orlando.
They get very good calls a lot of the times,
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d Low and Austin Reeves, Lebron flopping here and there
on touch fount like, so I'm not I got no
sympathy for you.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I have no sympathy for you.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I got sympathy for everybody in the NBA after that,
especially the neighbors, especially to say, you know, when a
report came out for the record, I hate that report.
I hate that report so much because for why you're
telling me that we were all right, and.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I hate the report like I hate it.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
But the Sixers have been the victim of the worst
calls at the end of games that have honestly put
them in very peculiar positions to lou those games because
of incorrect calls and the two minute report that comes
out after all of them games completely make the Sixers look.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
More and more right.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And if they were to foul a grievance against the
NBA for these for the way that they're being officiated,
they would be well within their right to do so,
because it's ridiculous. First of all, not only was there
a miss call, Chris, I apologize because I don't even
know if you were getting ready to get into this game,
but damn it was to me. It's wild to me,
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and I cannot understand how three things can all happen
at the same time and not a single official season.
There was Nick Nurse on the side trying to call
time that was Joel and b trying to call time out.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
There was Maxi on the floor while getting mangled, trying.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
To call time out, and nobody sees it, nobody does anything.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I cannot understand it.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
That's just one number two I know ever thought I
would care to see a file being challenged, a call
being challenged at the end of the games. I'm like,
at the end of the game.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
It was the end of the game.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
But I was so happy that Nick Nurse challenged the
foul calls that he did, because it continued to prove
that they are really incompetent as they're officiating close matchups
at the end of games, and too often the Sixers
have been the victims of being on the wrong end
of those incorrect calls that have cost them games. Now,
there were other things in this game that the Sixers
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clearly could have done better, but I because they had.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
A fourteen point lead and lost it. But I will
say that I was so pissed at the.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Officiating more than anything in this game, because it wasn't
just simple human errors. They were like blatant miss calls,
no calls, no nothing. And if I'm the Sixers, I'm
absolutely seeing if my union files agreements because like at
this point, it's out of control.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, they actually are playing the file agreements. Yeah, so
you read their mind over the first two games, right,
not just this game, because it actually.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Happened in the Miami game as well. Like, come on, Like,
at this point, it's it starts to feel a little biased.
And I'm not saying it is, but I'm saying I'm
if I'm in that locker room, I feel a bit biased.
And the frustration that you could see from Joel and
b was very evident. In that press conference, and I
know there were some who were criticizing him.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I'm talking about or you can't look defeated. That man
wasn't looking defeated.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
That man was looking pissed and frustrated, and quite honestly,
he looked like he wanted to tell all the reporters
to get the hell about the locker room.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But what it does, What this does, though, is.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
He's gonna take this fine for calling out the officials.
Taking the fine is gonna be worth putting the NBA
on notice, putting the officials on notice, and when they
get back to Philadelphia, they will have to try to
call the game the right way because everybody has now
been put on notice about.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
How they've been refed the entire time.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
So if I'm Joel and b cool, I'll take the fine, whatever,
a little thirty twenty five thous whatever, That little fine
is nothing in compare to it. And I think I've
read that if he doesn't cure find that the Sixers
are going to pay the fine for him, And if
that's that's why it is, what it is on that level,
But something has to be done. I know the Lakers
are cry babies, but in this scenario.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Valid valance sustained, very valid.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, No, they were letting.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I think she just wants to disagree today because he
missed the two of us against him.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Chris, you know what. No, No, that's a new tactic.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Now go ahead and go in there.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Okay, listen, they letting these dudes play like, Yes, Jalen
Bruntson got some jersey of Tyrese, Maxi and Maxie was
you know fault right, I'm saying in real time if
you slow it down, of course, that's some jersey.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
What they mean, how would you describe it?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
By the letter of the law, that is a foul,
But in the playoffs, by the letter of the law
that is a foul. But in the playoffs we have
seen them allowed to be these players allowed to be
much more aggressive and get away with more physical contact.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So which one is it, Tarika? Which one is it? Cheri?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Do you want the rest to let them play or
do you want to call every ticky TACKI foul?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Okay, you want them to let them play, but please
because we want them to let them play. So you said,
you're talking yanking. But but to Tarika's point earlier that
time out, that lack of them not calling that time
out was a big deal, especially because there were several
people on the sixer side calling for that. That is
(17:32):
a legitimate miscall. So I think when things are blatant,
I think that's the bigger complaint. Yes, for even me,
I expect to see more physicality in the playoffs, actually
look forward to it. But when it gets to the
point where calls are being made outside of the physicality
of the game itself that are impacting the overall of
a series, that's where the problem lies for me. You
want to tuggle a jersey, that's fine as long as
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things don't get out of control. But it's it's those
other things that ultimately really to me Tanky experience, even
of watching these games and of keeping up with what's
going on the playoffs, that is that is the most unsettling.
I'd say it that way.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, Okay, I'm christ.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I do care.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'm not even a Knicks fan. I just I just
live in New York, that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But I enjoy seeing you d native, but not the Wizards. Okay,
we we on the Milwaukee Bucks, Johnest that's my guy.
But yeah, I do think there's some legitimate legitimacy to that,
and it is discouraging. Going back to Taarrika's point, like
those two many reports there, it just makes fans and
(18:41):
the media and players that much more upset because you
ain't gonna play the game again back to that time
when you messed up, so it's kind of worthless.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And you know what else is interesting too, It happens
a lot in New York. And this is not me
being funny, but it genuinely happens a lot in New York.
And I know that we joke around a lot when
we talk about conspiracy theories and you know, the script
and all of that other good stuff. But if you're
someone who honestly believes in that kind of stuff, like
you would have a valid case when it comes to
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playing in the garden. And I know it's like the
knickses the New York is the mecca. A lot of
people would love, for various reasons, to see the Knicks
move on to the finals, maybe win a championship for
whatever reason. And that's fine, Like I am honestly not
judging that, but I do think that you have to
be cognizant of certain things. Because here's the Pistons fan
(19:32):
of me again, and I know my team wasn't shit
this year, but I know you all remember at the
end of a Pistons game there was a lot of
controversy about a miscall in New York that honestly costs
the Pistons the game. And so there are other scenarios
and other throughout the course of this year where it
happens more frequently in New York.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Again, I'm not blaming the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I'm not saying anything about that, but I am saying
that if I'm a conspiracy theorist and I'm one of
those people that say, hey, something is funny to help
the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Move along, these are the kinds of things that people
can revert back to.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So they really got to watch their officiating, but they
really got to be careful with how they're officiating in
New York because it looks biased.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So you're saying the NBA is a goddamn suspect. I'm
what you're saying. I can explain.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
The script is scripted screaming. I don't know who wrote it,
but your spot on.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I don't know either, But yeah, it's uh, it's been
dramatic to say the least, and controversial, as I feel
like it's always been. But we have a lot of
fun on this show, and uh, you know, we're going
to get to some more topics here later as the
Team USA for the men and women's teams are preparing
to go at the Olympics in Paris twenty twenty four
(20:52):
in the summer, and Chari actually had a front row
seat to the whole experience leading up to it.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Of course we're gonna talk about that in just a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Okay, So I don't mean to overtake your show, Chris,
because I feel like I'm gonna do that a lot
today and it's our show.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
When something's sitting on your experiences.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Some of the people, I gotta get it out.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
So I know that we were supposed to talk about
Team USA, and kind of in a way, I think
we are because who I'm about to ask you about
is actually playing for Team USA.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
But let's put a pending that real.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Quick, because before we get off this NBA conversation, what
in the hell is going on in Phoenix?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Just real quick. I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I don't know why I thought Kevin Durant and nim
because that was right, is right?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Kevin Durant and.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Nim I don't know why I thought they were actually
gonna bring some fire and make this to this. You know, this,
this three six matchup worth something, and it's not happening.
They got destroyed.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Is it just me?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Or it's Phoenix another team that probably just needs to
just let this go and start over next year.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
It's it just me, Cherie, or am I tripping?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's not just you? The question becomes what is the problem.
I do think there needs to be an evaluation of
what this team could look like moving forward, because what
they have is not good enough. It's just not It
could be a chemistry situation issue. You know, we had
injuries and all different things going on, but you're entirely
too talented for us even be having this conversation. So
(22:24):
if you're if you're this talented, what else could be
the problem? But I think the assumption that every super
team is going to dominate that that's gone right now.
I don't know if I don't know if that ideal
will be revived at some point, but right now, at
least in my opinion, it should not be something that
we assume definitely need some changes made.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, yeah, because you got you got to look at
it like they just signed Rayson Allen to an extension.
He's been playing exceptional ball right since he got to
the Suns coming over from Milwaukee. But he did not
show up. Well, you some nrkis did not show up. Well,
Devin Booker didn't even get over twenty points.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Like? And Katie he had thirty one? Right, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But I just think there's the roster construction is so flawed,
even after they tried to make the moves like Royce
O'Neil and other guys, that they have to rely so
heavily on their big three offensively, and then there's some
defensive they're lacking in the defensive department at times with
some of their players. That Yeah, going back to answer
(23:30):
your original question, Arrika, the Sons will be looking in
the mirror. I will be looking themselves in the mirror
next season or this offseason.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Yep, all right, my bad, Chris, you got it.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I say, yeah, hey, Cherie, you were act you were
in the team. You're say environment right when you were
on assignment, So what was that? What was that experience like?
And yeah, just take us inside that whole deal.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
It was really cool overall. So it was the Team
USA media some and it was in New York City.
It's three days and you have Olympians, Paralympians, athletes that
are going to be competing over the next few months
to try to make Paris. And the basketball panels obviously
were really cool. Three on three was really dope as well.
But Grant Hill was there. You know, he's a managing
director of Team USA amongst other things, and I really
(24:25):
got a chance to just to talk to him about
how he applies obviously his experience as an Olympian and
also as a former player to this particular team, and
also was there anything in particular that was applicable to
his career but not so much with this generation of athletes,
And so, you know, his response was, I just it's
just kind of a it's kind of a take in
a give and take for me, you know. But he's enjoying,
(24:46):
you know, obviously enjoyed putting this team together. He feels
really confident about, you know, what they have and how
well that they'll do. And so it was nice to
hear from him about that. And then Coach Reeve on
the other side, on the women's side, and Brianna Stewart
where a part of that panel as well, and so
they kind of just talked about, you know, what the
expectation is on the women's side, and also the growth
obviously of the game and so very very exciting. Coach
Reeve knows what she's doing. I mean, been there, done that,
(25:08):
so you know on both ends. Just basically hearing those
conversations and also just knowing who's on these teams, who's
leading these teams, I feel very confident. I'm just I'm
going on the limit say it. Neither one of them
should lose a game, not one game, just saying if
they you know, if you do, didn't get that out early,
but we can get this no metal. But I'm just
(25:29):
so impressed with how both of these teams are constructed
just all around. I think it's going to be an incredible,
incredible Olympic Games in Paris. But it was really honor
just to be in the vicinity of these incredibly talented, driven,
amazing athletes.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, that's really dope to see and listen, We've been
spoiled here in the United States for years.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
We've been spoiled those years that we what year was that?
That was four?
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I think it was that men team like got like gold,
I mean got like bronze or something. Yeah, like that
was the end of the world for the United States.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Is it as we know it? For Team USA?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
We don't place second, we don't place third, Like if
we're not worst in basketball, there's problems. And Team USA
on the women's side too, calls granted, still got gold.
But I remember in World Basketball was it a year ago?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Two years ago? I want to say it was two
years ago in the w B.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
The World Basketball Classics or something like that, get me
honest with the name. But it was scary like Spain, Australia,
like teams who really are good teams but just really
should not be able to hang with Team USA.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
They were cutting it way too close. So I am
looking forward.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
To this year and I know that there are some
new names that are being introduced to Team USA this
year is yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
And before we go into new names, I don't mean,
I don't mean to jump in real quick, Chris, because
I know I know that's a point for you to
go ahead and take over. Yes, it's to Rika's point,
like that was one of the bigger parts of the
conversation as well, just how strong the game, how strong
players have gotten on the European side, and how competitive
you know, just from a global standpoint, the game of
basketball has become on the men and men's and women's side,
(27:21):
So I think it will be interesting. But it's important
to note like everybody is aware and on notice, so
every people you need to do right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Hey, look, you remember not too long ago Dylan Brooks
and the Canadian team they were cooking. Yeah, yeah, they
put them on blood, they put them on blast. Phoebe yeah,
pheb yeah, feeble yes, the fever world.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
They forget my brain.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, I know it's hard because yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Don't usually associate Team USA whatever whatever lead they're playing
in or tournament with them losing or playing in top
tight games. Now, the one thing that is interesting on
the men's side before we get into the women Tyree's
Halliburton in over Kyrie Irving and Kyrie talking about Hey,
I with some brothers will but I grew up in
(28:02):
a time where you know, you had to try out
to make the team, and I'm all for that. I
love that competition, training camp, you name it. So I
have no issues with him saying that of course, I'm
sure politics are involved, but on the women's side.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
That's the only reason. Chris, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that
is the only and it's unfortunate, Like it's unfortunate all
the way around, because yes, I would have loved to
see Kyrie on this team. I appreciate the way he
handled it and added a little competitive edge there. But
it just speaks to again the intersection of politics and
sports and how dangerous that can be if there's irresponsibility
(28:42):
on either side. So really really sucks. Honestly, I'm still
bummed about it. But no shade to anybody else, but
I'm a little disappointed.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, it's the way Tyre's Haliburn was having an amazing
first half of the year. Then he had that hamstring
injury and he just hasn't been able to get back
to that MVP form. And that's with Pascal Siakam coming over,
who's been really great as well, was wonderful in that
game one that they lost the Bucks.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But how about Kaitlyn Clark?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Right, if there could be a show where we didn't
Because I don't feel like these trolls on Twitter, I've
been tussling with them. I don't even I'm just I'm
just I might I might be on my Beyonce here
and just go on mute because I'm actually sick of y'all.
I'm done talking to you. You don't listen, You're not
listening to what we're saying, and all you want to
(29:33):
do is just take what we say is half a
person and then go on Twitter and want to argue
with us and be mean.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I don't know if I feel like I'm married them.
I feel like I'm married him. You just want to
argue you.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I don't know if I feel like y'all this week,
but we'll see continue.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
They live for that.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
They live for being miserable and twisting your words or
out of context. But the news is that Kaitlyn Clark
is going to be given her tryout for this USA team.
Excuse me, is going to be how she plays in
the w early on. And they added, right the people
(30:09):
responsible for making these decisions that we know it's going
to be unfair to some people, which lets me know
we know what we understand what's about to happen. What
is the point of assimbling a team if tryouts and
training camps do not matter. I do not understand that
(30:30):
for the life of me, and they the more they
do things like this, they're putting even a bigger target
on Caitlyn Clark. Again, this has nothing to do with
Caitlyn and how she plays right and who she is
a person. This has to do with the people around her,
media companies, team USA, decision makers all that. And I'm
(30:55):
not a fan because somebody's gonna get screwed, right, because
I already have questions about Dana Tarassi being on that team.
And you know, they're not going to give up a spot.
She's not losing her spot, you know, based on the
longevity and the legacy, even though she could be a
liability for all we know, as we've seen over the years.
And then somebody else, right, that bothers me, that really
(31:18):
bothers me, Tarika.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
So in all fairness, this would not be the first
time that this has happened where a rookie would be
able to make the team based on their performance and play.
I know brion A Steward did it before when she
was a rookie coming off four championships. Let that sink
in and I want to say, gosh, I want to
(31:42):
say it was Kandice Parker in eight who got an
opportunity to, yeah, to try out to do that as
a rookie too. So so to be fair, it's not
like this is the first time that we've seen this,
so I get it. I just think that the talent
and the WNBA has grown exponentially to the point that
(32:04):
you don't necessarily need to use a rookie in this
particular circumstance because there are so there are a few
other players who play that same position who have, in
my opinion, possibly already earned an.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Opportunity to try out for that spot. And it's just
as simple as that.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
It's not necessarily about talent. But I think there are
some things that you truly and genuinely have to earn
and to represent your country on the scale and on
the magnitude that it means to be an Olympian. And
I believe that Caitlin's an Olympian already, Like she's played
on the let's say under like junior team or whatever.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
So it's not like this is new for her, like
she's done this before.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
This isn't like a new experience or something that she
hasn't hasn't been able to represent Team USA before. Although
it is a great honor to represent Team USA, I
just personally and professionally, I feel like this is not
one of the moments where it absolutely must has to
happen right and love GENEROSIETI She's the president of the
(33:15):
Connecticut Son I am the side that reported for the
Connecticut Sun, So I know her heart is in the
right place when she when she says this, I'm hoping
that so are the other people who are in the
front office for a Team USA.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
But I just I just think that there are a.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Few other players who have shown over the course of
the last couple of years that they deserve an opportunity
to play. And this is how we continue to create
this division that everybody's talking about. But that really is
that we keep doing stuff that can be perceived to.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Have ulterior motives.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
And that is and and and that is where people
are coming from with certain things. And there are those
troths who I'm sure are going to hear this and say, O,
Terrica's hating again and.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
All this other stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
No, she brings attention to the w She brings attention
to women's basketball. We've been craving and crying for attention
for years. So no one's hating, no one's mad. We
appreciate it, honestly, But there are just still some other
things that you have to genuinely by merit earn and
(34:25):
that's just that, and that's just honestly where I'm coming
from with it.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
It's just.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Let some of those who have been.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Working towards this opportunity get that opportunity before we put
on And I don't think it's fair to Kaitlin, if
we're being honest, Why don't I think it's fair to
Caitlin Because I think again, when you just look at
the structure of the team that she's going to, her
performance in college will look a little different than her
performance in the WNBA, And she could still drop twenty
(34:55):
seven points if she wants to whatever. That's fine, But
I'm also saying like what she will be requested to
do will look a little different than what she was
requested to do at Iowa and not might not, you know,
be something that the US Team USA committee or front
office or decision makers will find well enough to put
(35:16):
her on the roster for Paris. So there are just
too many different scenarios, too many if and too many
variables here that to just eliminate that, just get somebody
else to.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Do it right.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
But I got to ask, though, like, who are the
other players at her position that you feel like deserve
a spot? Because you know how we always talk about
well I thought so and so should have got MVP,
or I thought so and so was like, okay, who
would you take off?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
So I got to ask you that question to hold
you accountable.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
No, no, please ask me hold.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Me that accountable, I believe. Let me see, I think
Jackie is Jackie's on the team, So I would have
had her Ryan's on the team, because I definitely would
have had Ryan. I don't think Sabrino, it's Sabrina on
the team. Yes, would have had Sabrina. Okay, let me think.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I'm key.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I'm going through all of them in all of the
teams in my head, Irique, is she on the team?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Are you sure?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I'm looking now?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Let me see, let me see.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Let us confirm here. We don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
No, she's not on a team. No, she's not on
the team.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
To Tarika's point, and a larger point, is the continued
polarization of Caitlyn Clark can be a danger that I
don't think we're necessarily talking about. Again, this has nothing
to do with her ability. She's an incredible basketball player,
and she shouldered so much pressure so well, and so
I do have to commend her for that. But I
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said this in a commentary earlier this week. What happens
when all the eggs that we put in the Caitlin
Clark basket? What happens if some of them break? What
happens to the fickle fanfare. We're not talking about fans
like us who are entrenched in the in this game,
who love basketball, who know basketball. We're talking about people
(37:07):
that only watch because of Kaylyn Clark. So we understand
that there's so much visibility and excitability that other players
in the league are already bringing to the league. They've
been doing that. Caitlyn just adds to that. She brings
an ushers in a new wave. But if we bear
the responsibility on her to carry that alone and she
doesn't come through in the way that people that don't
(37:28):
understand that adaptation that Tarika was talking about, it could
really hinder the league. Obviously, Like, let's just be real.
The reason why she's considered for this opportunity with Team
USA is simply because of the hype that's around her.
It's gonna bring more eyes, it's gonna bring more extension,
it's gonna bring more fans. We understand that this is
about money, so I get it. But she's gonna have
(37:49):
to make some adjustments. And mind you, I'm not most
I'm not really excited about her on Team USA right
now until I see her place in defense in the WNBA.
You don't even you're not you don't even defend well.
So then we taking a step further and now you're
on Team USA. That's gonna be that's gonna be necessary.
Even the physicality at that level. I'm not all the
way sold. I'm just not. She's a hell of a shooter,
(38:11):
one of the best I've ever seen in my life.
She's one of the best pastors I've ever seen. Well.
On the other end, when it comes to the physicality
and the defensive skill set, she's behind. She even said
it herself at a press conference and said, this is
something I'm gonna have to I can't dance around the issue.
I have to play defense now. So she's maybe she
was just in a position on the collegiate level well
(38:31):
where it wasn't a requirement for her to be successful.
And she's known all this time and just took breaks.
I don't know, but until she played some defense, I'm
not convinced. All the best to her if she makes
the team good for her and hopefully she delivers. But
to both of your points, there's players that have sown
and so even as competitors, even as people even us
that understand, like there is a hierarchy. And I'm not
(38:53):
saying it. She takes somebody the same amount of time
to get some place to somewhere someone else. I'm not
saying that. But you got to earn your stripes to
a degree, and in this instance, I'm looking forward to
seeing how she fares in the w But at the
same time, you haven't earned some things, and it's just
because you haven't been there. Like there's people that there's
people that have been waiting in line, There's people that
have been doing what they need to do. There's people
(39:15):
that have been keeping this league alive that deserve the
opportunity that you're coming in and taking. Not you, but
the media bias is allowing you to take I'm gonna
say it, and other and other powers that be that
are saying we need to do this because we want
to make money. So it's just how it goes and
it's okay, and we fight through. That's what sports is about.
To Sports and money intersect on a very high level.
(39:36):
But at the same time, you know, it's frustrating for me.
But again, it's not personal to Caitlin.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I love this game.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I love this game. I played this game. It's about
just what is the fairest thing to do and in
the spirit, in the soul of this game and a competition,
I don't think it's right. But again, you do your thing,
and you do your thing in a season, girl, then
go ahead and put your uniform on it and go
get us a gold medal.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
I know that's right. And just the put a bow
on this, Chris, you asked me. Also, it just popped
in my head.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
When she starts talking about defense. The other person who
I probably would have given an opportunity to at the
guard position, Caliah Copper.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was somebody. Yeah, somebody's gonna
bring up easy So amazing two way player.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Amazing two way player. But at the end of the day,
if she make the scene, girl, go get us a go.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
We're voting for you too, Chat, We're not against you.
We're not against Kaylen Clark. We don't hate her or not.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
The fact that we have to make this clear, I'm
so tired.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
I'm gonna get a shirt made. I don't hate c.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
See right hearts. It's absurd that we have to do.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I never had a.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Disclaimer aboutsing any other but I gotta you gotta make
disclaimers about it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
And I'm not even even a disclaimer girl, because Loki
I said what I said and les voice. But I'm
just trying to be nice to y'all.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
I'm just trying to be nice.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
This part just claimers aren't my style.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
So ability politics.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
You got a few more with me and me, and
we just don't say that we like you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Oh my goodness, oh lord, just one more before we
go to break uh, And we're still gonna be talking
about Kayla Clark. The reality is she's probably not even
be playing that much. She's gonna be the last person
on that bench and she'll likely get You.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Don't care how good you are. You know, I ain't
even gonna say no more. We ain't gonna say no nose.
You know why, because all of these new fans are
about to learn what we already know as it relates
to coaches and players in this league.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Y'all got a red, go off, but go off, go off?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Come on now, two to three minutes, that's to to
five minutes. That's all I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Uh, but yeah, we're gonna hit that short break, go
to break, and then we're gonna talk about Kaylyn Clark
also making more news and headlines, uh with the shoe
deal from a certain company. Recently, Kaitlyn Clark learned, or
we learned, that Kaylyn Clark was going to be getting
a contract with Nike right in addition to a signature
(42:09):
shoe deal that is worth over twenty million dollars. It's
a multi year agreement, and it's incredible for her and
her family. She's going to be living well for so
many years, and that's wonderful news because of the attention
she brings her transcendent talent. And of course, we still
have to see if it's going to be generational, because
(42:30):
I think sometimes we put that label on people too
early when we haven't seen their entire career play out.
But that's amazing what's not amazing is the fact that
you have Asia Wilson, a Nike athlete as well, who
has earned and won so many awards both on and
(42:50):
off the court, has a charismatic personality that few people
have in the WNBA, which is really important because we're
talking about marketability of idiots say, oh, she's not Mark
Please shut the hell up. Please shut the hell up.
She still does not have a signature shoe with Nike.
That is very that enrages me. I'm enraged by it
(43:15):
because it lets me know that Nike does not value
her the way they should. And it also lets me
know that black women, black people just you know, you
have to work twice as hard to get half what
white people have a lot.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Of the times.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
And again, this isn't about CC.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
This is about the executives and who they deem to
be marketable, who they think it can sell. And I hate,
and I'm not going to go on this too long,
but Tarika, I hate when I see people on Twitter
and other social media platforms say, well, Nike you they
wouldn't lose out on money, like if it was gonna
make money, they would they would of.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Course go all in on Asia, right, what do you
not know how this country was founded?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Do you not know how white people people decided to
lose out on money because of their racism?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
If you want to go there, because I'm sitting here
just trying to be still, is fire shut up in
my bones like Jeremiah. But I don't want to be
like Jeremiah. I wanted to leave me alone. So I'm
I'm just gonna listen.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Naucherie were on the same we Chris, We are all
on the same page.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Because there are a couple couple of quick points here,
quick point and number one. I need people to know
who like to argue me back and forth on Twitter,
social media, Instagram.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Whatever Asia has player.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Editions, pees and signature shoes are not the same peas
or shoes that are already existing for another person's signature shoe,
and they have created a special addition for this particular
person to market.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
So please stop telling me Asia gotta shoe. Asia does
not get schoe. She has a pe that's number one. Now. Marketability, wow,
black women.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Marketability black women is marketability because white women men are
doing what black women do and they're getting you know.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
What, I got to go, Soljah, did you just oh,
that's it, that's it, Thank you Jesus.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Lord, Lord Law.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
They've been doing what we do for years, and it's
been cool, and it's been que. Black women been wearing
braids forever. But let one of the white girls come
up in here with some braids on, and it's, oh,
my god, this is the new things.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
No, baby, we've been doing it. We've been doing it.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
We've had hips, we've had ass we've had all of
these bodies for years. All of a sudden, all of
these white women got these nice little shapes and they
want to come out with these shapers, and y'all are
running to go buy all this stuff because they got it.
We've had it, we've had it, and we were called ugly,
we were called not beautiful, we were not the status quo. So, sweetheart,
we are marketability. We are everything about black women is marketable. Now,
(45:51):
let's go to Asia. Specifically, he's a member of Alpha
Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. It's one of the largest black
sororities in the world. That alone makes her marketable.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
It's the same.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Organization as Madame Vice President Kamala Harris, the same organization
as many other people. She's marketable. The D nine would
have her back. They would have her Black women have
her back. That's number one. Number two, you can't walk
I was just in Las Vegas a week ago. You
can't walk in Las Vegas and not see you twenty
two jerseys somewhere people represent Asia Wilson. Okay, she is
(46:24):
marketable among fans, all right. Number three. Not only is
she a New York Times best selling author pree hello Hello,
but she not only presents herself well. And I'm not
saying present well like black women, because I hate when
people say, oh, you speak well. No, she presents her
self well. She's an educated person. She presents herself her community,
(46:49):
and she is authentic.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
People love all the density.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
She is marketable. She's an entrepreneur. She has a candle company.
He is marketable. Y'all need to let it the f
go with this bullshit about she's not marketable.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
They're no one's buying.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
No. You know why every other person is marketable in
the way that y'all say it is because the company
gave them an opportunity and.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Actually marketed them.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
They actually put their faces on billboards, they put their
names on places, they put their their things on things.
That is how someone becomes even more marketable. Skylarding and
Smith was one of the first marketable women in the WNBA.
She was the og of marketability, and you see how
that happened. We're not gonna do this, y'all gonna quit
(47:40):
playing with us. Y'all are going to quit playing with us.
Y'all are playing in our face way too long talking
about what is marketable and what is not.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
We're sick of it. Give Asia a shoe. That's it,
and that's all from me.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Okay, you just dropped the mic. I don't really have
much to add. I agree with every single thing that
you both have said. Obviously, as a black woman, I'm
very triggered by the mirre inkling of someone even thinking
in their brain that black women aren't marketable. I'm not
going to go back down that rabbit hole because Terika,
she tied it up with a very nice bow. I'll
say this. I think that number one to the marketability
(48:18):
standpoint again, it's about investment. Kaylen Clark. The reason why
she is where she is in part not just because
of her incredible athletic ability, but because all of these
different advertisers, companies, whatever decided they wanted to invest in her.
They literally beat us into submission into falling in love
with her. Not to say that she's not easy to
fall in love with, but again that's what marketing does.
(48:38):
Same as you listen to a song over and over again,
the radio just plays it over and over again. You
start off, I hate that song to day, not that's
my jam. That's Kaylen Clark is the jam right now.
The fact that she has athleticism on top of that
just adds to it. Asia Wilson been that jam. She
like an old school record that never gets played out,
that ever gets played out. Body that can put a
(49:01):
call out to Usher Raymond and get down to that,
get a get a serenade. You know, she's not marketable.
Shelter owned the social media on the Twitter, the man responded,
she's down to the concert, so I don't want to
hear it. And mind you, if you just look at
(49:22):
her social media behavior and the people that then fall
in line, it is actually incredible. So for me, this
is just also a call out to the w n
b A And it's not a criticism, it's literally a
call to action. You also play a part in this,
So she's somebody right now that you are very much
looking at being treated unjustly, and we all know it,
(49:44):
even if you don't want to believe it, it's happening.
I would love to see the league get behind her
and invest in her brand in a way that maybe
they haven't done before, and this lead to another wave
of them doing this with other players. There's been a
lot of resurgeon of commercials old a NBA commercials, the
Kyla Pratt commercial with Sidney Cooper and Tina Thompson and
Lisa Leslie. You know you're you're in Chryl Swoops. Let's
(50:08):
get back to that that the league was. It was
a baby, and we had investments from brands at the time,
it was Nike investments from brands saying hey, we want
to make people love this game all right now. Just
a new iteration of that needs to happen on the
commercial side, but also on the w n b A side.
So I hope that happens with Age in particular because
she just flat out deserves it and she's earned it,
(50:28):
but also with other players that have really been bearing
the burden of what this league has looked like at
its lowest point, and also they should be able to
enjoy the highs of where it is right now, where
I believe it's gonna continue to go. That's all I got.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
I'm Asia juvenile, Always be the gym, never be a
time nine and.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Elementary. When you heard that's all come off, she would
be the jam. But she is the gem, been the gym,
will always be the jam. There's no debate about that.
Argue with your mama, argue with your grandma, all right,
but we're not arguing over here.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
We always get along.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Even if Tureka and Seria sometimes bully me, I say
bully and quotes.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
All in love. That's what friends.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
You know, family's about. You know, we're not always gonna agree.
We have great, greater, honest and interesting dialogue. But we
have one more segment before this show wraps up, because
the producer like, yeah, y'all got to go.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Jump Ball is coming up next. Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Time for jump Ball, and this edition of jump Ball
is going to be a free for all. Right, it
can go anyway, go out of bounds, can go and
then the hoop right or wherever. And I'm gonna give
the floor to Tarika first. This jump Ball for me
is just simply a message.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
This message is for the nine hundred and ninety nine thousand,
nine hundred and twenty one people who have decided to
come for me over the last week and a half.
Speaker 5 (52:19):
I don't love that number. I don't know how to.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Turn my notifications off on Instagram, so I keep you
every one of y'all, and I have three things to
say to you. Number One, thank you for the views,
for the downloads, for the engagement. Because what you have
all done while trying to come for me is increase
the visibility and marketability of the three on three.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
Podcast I've got today.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
We appreciate you, we love you, and we want you
to continue to bring your bad takes and opinions to
help us to increase and grow our our podcast, our show,
our marketability.
Speaker 5 (52:57):
We love that.
Speaker 4 (52:58):
Number Two, I have been in this business for damn
near sixteen years. I do not care about your thoughts
and opinions of me. I do not care if you
think that my name should be she does not know sports.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
Thank you it is. I love it.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
I do not care if you guys talked about my
earring falling off last week.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
That is totally okay.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
I do not care.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
You know why, because revert back to number one. We
appreciate your views, your engagement, and your increased up access
to our page. In number three, Last, but not least,
these celebrities and athletes do not know you.
Speaker 5 (53:41):
They do not know y'all. Y'all are going hard.
Speaker 4 (53:44):
For people who couldn't pick you out of a lineup.
It is ridiculous. Stop, slow down, breathe.
Speaker 5 (53:50):
There are real people who do not even know you exist.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
So relax, okay, because all you're doing is fee in
to number one, giving us views, engagement, and marketability. So
I say all of that to say, please continue to
provide all of your opinions. Please continue to come for
me as much as you like, because all you're doing
(54:16):
is just blowing up my notifications and increasing our ability
to get paid.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
Thank you. I'm done.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Boom. The blog is I the blog is my drop.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
I let me just move all the way past that.
But everything she said pretty much is the same as
I say. We got our experience difference, but other than
that same thing, keep it coming really quickly, Joe ellenbiid
we didn't really get to this earlier in the show.
I applaud his efforts and his courageousness to play in
(54:50):
this series, but the way my anxiety is set up,
I can't even halfway enjoy the games, in part because
I'm concerned about him hurting himself even worse. I don't
think in this instance it's worth it to continue. And
I know that's a bull statement to say, but I
think he needs to sit down somewhere. I don't want
(55:12):
to see any more shots of him getting his knee massage.
I don't want him to fall again. I don't want
him he's limping around. The commentators are talking about it.
He's limping now like it's too much. And I personally
don't want to have to keep taking calm, which is
a magnesium supplement to ease my attentions and anxiety because
(55:34):
I'm scared he's going to hurt himself worse. I think
he needs to I think the six I hate to
say it, guys, I think they need to sit this.
He needs to sit and that needs to be it,
and they need to just reevaluate and be ready for
next year, which they're a great team. But I am
so concerned about Joe ell ebiid and I'm not I
don't even know the man, but I feel like I
know him I watch scared now every game. I'm so
(55:57):
concerned about him, and I just think that I don't
think it's worth it. They need more for him to
keep playing.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
Jump listen, I'm with you on that or I feel
like that's not a bad, bad take because other people
have talked about it where you just hold your breath
every time he goes down, and that's not fun to see.
And I think, you know, for the Sixers to have
longevity with him, it's a double edged worker. Is like,
(56:24):
all right, how much longer is their window with him? So, okay,
you play him, but at what at what cost?
Speaker 3 (56:31):
Right you?
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Just if you want to throw it in, let Tyrese
Maxie run the show. Okay, cool, Tarika. I know you're
huge on Tyrese and he's looked like a superstar this year.
But if you're saying, oh, we're just gonna put on
the season and other people might so yeah, I'm not
sure they have any easy decision.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
But just need Joe and b to get get healthy.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
What was really healthy to see though, is the fact
that people try to shit on don Staley and diminish
her impact on the game and not give her Flowers
while they were on this incredible undefeated run when she
became the first black coach man or woman to lead
an undefeated team to a national title. Is the fact
(57:14):
that Beyonce watches South Carolina and Don Staley got the
whole Flower arrangement and everything.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
So what I need is for Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
To maybe get into the ownership box and maybe bring
back because she's a Houston girl, Houston woman, bring them back,
bring them back that idea. Yes, they got the money.
She's clearly a fan up in their roomy jay z
(57:46):
they it could be done.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
It makes general manager.
Speaker 3 (57:50):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
Hey yo, hey, that would be hot.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
That would be hot fire and load of people will
be showing up the games in droves. We know Beyonce
runs the world, right, but yeah, that that's my jemball.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
I just have to shout out, Beyonce.
Speaker 5 (58:12):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
Chris us out with that incredible notion of yours.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
Oh I love this. It was on my chest. That
was my chest by Carter.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, we hear you, we see you, and we love
that You've given Don Staley or Flowers when so many
other people fail to do so because they can't appreciate
its Treika said earlier one of our shows, The Magic
of a Black Woman, right now.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
That Sharia said that, but we all feel that way absolutely.
That's it for this edition of the.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Three on three Pod though, y'all for Rika Foster brasby
Serena Cole. I'm Chris Williams, and make sure y'all download
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You can follow us at the Inflection Network where Hey,
(59:05):
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Speaker 1 (59:13):
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