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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey guys, we're back with four from the South. I'm
Steve Healey. I'm here with my co host, Fabrizio Capano.
Fab How you doing, man, I'm good, I'm good. I'm
glad to be back. You're reporting from a new location,
New York City. Do we consider that part of Latin
America here on the show? I mean now, yes, now
that I move here and we're thrilled up. A special
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guest today, we've got a sort of our boss here
at Exile Media and also a host of his own show,
Jacob and Weekends. Here's Nando Via Nando. How you doing, manum,
Just keeping an eye on you guys, making sure the
trains run on time, making sure you guys are in
dilly dallying on the job, dilly dallying trains running on time.
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That's key to Latino culture and podcast culture as well.
They're both known for no dilly dally and getting right
down to business exactly. That's how podcast works. Yeah, I
just gotta make sure the money flows. You're from Miami,
is that right? I am sure? Yes. The capital as
they say in Miami they like to say, which is
like a horribly like imperialist thing to say, but they
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say that Miami is actually the capital of last horrible
and it's right. And are there any like there, oh,
Mexico City, I don't know. Yeah, I mean what the
reality is that Miami is the capital of Latin American
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reaction or oligarchy or whatever you want to call it.
But that's for all all the all the oligarchs in
Latin America, one of them having to have a condo
or a house in Miami, the same complex or yeah,
in the in that little island to the I don't
for Cisco was in a little island I remember, Yeah,
does live on an allied and he lives in uh
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he lives I think he lives in Indian Creek or
something where like a lot of celebrities live. Um, they
do not have their own the same complex. They're really
like scattered all over the place. A lot of them
live and keep his skaing um. A lot of them
live in Aventura, A lot of them live uh yeah,
just all over the place really um. And it's just
been this ever since the Pink Tide in Latin America
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in when it started when Chavez took over Venezuela and
and then Lula took over Brazil and like the rich
people in Latin America were like, voa wait, Texas, crazy,
you fucking insane, think our money, and we're gonna go
to Miami. Florida opened its arms and said come to us.
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I had to say when when I was growing up,
all the most horrible people that I met, they were like,
we have a house in Miami. It was like everyone
that it was like, the worst person of also needs
to have a base in Miami. Yeah, and that's what
gave birth to you. You should be really proud of
that heritage. Nanda. But we our first story this week,
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we're hoping that you can help us understand this. It's
about something called Miami Coin, which is I guess just
what I'm desperate to understand. I'm a very simple nowaive
person in my mind is not very sophisticated. But when
I look at what Miami Coin is and read about it,
I can't help but think that it seems a bit
like a Ponzi scheme. Because you meant a thing that
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help me understand what's going on here. It seems to
be a thing that's only valuable as long as more
and more people want it. Uh, Yeah, that does sound
very Ponzi schemish. But Steve, you just don't understand. You
just don't understand. It's the blockchain, dude, it's the crypto.
It's a cryptocurrency. That is what you just you have
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to like expand your mind, dude. Your outdated modes of
thinking are causing you to not understand the revolutionary power
of the new mayor of Miami, Francis Suarez. Not really
that news. He's been around for a while, but like
I guess he's like a new man ever since the
crypto thing really took off. But you just don't understand
the revolutionary power. It's gonna like end government's man, it's
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gonna end central banks, it's gonna end states. It's gonna
end taxation. Uh so, yeah, he said specifically that he
get on board. He said he could see this taking
Miami away from taxation, which his quote was something the mayor, mayor,
you know, saying that there's a new coin taking like taxes.
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I mean you will, like I mean, if you're a mayor,
taxes are going to help you to do what you
need to do. You would think you would think that
that's true. I have to expand my mind. Look looks
like it's not that expanded. No no, no, no, you
have not yet taken the pill. It's what they're saying
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is like, we're gonna mint this coin. It's gonna be
called the Miami coin, and then people are gonna want
it because reasons, and then uh that the increase in
value in the coin get driven by people's demand. That revenue,
uh is going to be used to fund you know,
the firefighters and the cops and the and you know,
the roads and all the stuff that you would want
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to fund in a city can be just funded by
the magic Yeah, to protect Yes, I want to say.
This is my problem with this is like and cryptocurrency
is doing this to me. They put me in the
side of banks. Don't do this. Yeah, now I'm I'm
I'm a bank supporter. You keep pushing me to do
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this and and talking about bitcoin and cryptocurrency. This is
not like trying to steal n a little bit totally. Yeah,
his friend in the Bookelly playbook, he's making his community
a hype crypto somehow connecting it to crypto know and
hopefully the crypto weirdos will come there. Is that the
goal you want these people to come there because they
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seem pretty psycho. Yeah no, no, he he he wants
them to go. I mean as far as as far
as I can tell. This. This all started when um,
some VC guy in Silicon Valley whose name escaped me.
He has like some sort of Russian sounding name. Uh,
like about a year and a half ago, tweeted out,
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what if we all just like got up and left
from Silicon Valley and went to Miami. And then the
mayor of Miami, this guy, Francis Suarez, who was like, uh,
he's such a Miami bro. Like Miami bro is very
specific kind of bro. Like there's crypto bros, there's like
Wall Street bros, there's like flat bros, and all the
Miami bro is a very specific kind of bro, one
of one of a variety of bro that I am
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intimately familiar with. And he is like the Miami bro
par excellence. He's perfect, okay, And he responded to the
tweets saying how can I help, And that only each
a wave of Silicon Valley people who were just like, oh,
maybe we should leave San Francisco to go to Miami.
But next thing, every Silicon Valley guy was like what
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a visionary. Like, yeah, they're like this guy is a
real visionary, and I'm trying to promise you that this guy,
like all he's ever done in his life is like
go clubbing on South Beach and like massive amounts of cocaine.
Like this is like all he's ever done in his life.
That's the way to spend your mind, man, Like that's
you know, this sounds like a scheme that can only
be thought of on cocaine 's Like you know what, man,
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you know what, man, We're doing crypto Curtesy. It's gonna
be a city coin and we're gonna limitate taxes and
it's awesome and we don't recogonize the world. Man's being awesome,
you know, like that's the only the only explanation is
like cocaine to say. One of the main problems with
his new currency the name Miami coin. Yeah, kind of scheme,
just don't use the name of the entire city. It.
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I feel like it's too much in the nose. To
be honest, I don't think it's a great name. Coin
was also not a green name, but he works because
he was like a kind of parody. This is like
Miami coin Yeah, it was a parody, but it also
had an image you know, like if they just had
a yeah Pelican that wouldn't work. But some Miami like
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Visceral Art basil coin might have been better. So I
don't know, Yeah, we would be the best plan mark
in Miami to really like where's the place that these
dudes love? Where the dude bros of Miami going? Where
does Suarez have his you know birthday? Yeah, they're going
to live there. It should be called the live coin
or honestly, there's a there's a nightclub in Miami called
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a Levin, which, like I've always wanted to, Like, I'm
surprised that no magazine journalists has ever done a big
profile on it, or at least as far as I
know or anyone have, Like maybe we should, maybe we
should do a live recording of this show at eleven
because as Levin is a nightclub, it's gonna were there. Yeah,
it's open twenty four hours a day, seven days a week,
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three d and sixty five days a year, like it
will be open on Thanksgiving morning, yes, um, and it's
it's it's genius in a way because the founders of
eleven basically took the tried and tested model of a
strip club, and then we're just like, what if we
just had a bigger strip club with more strippers, and
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then we also turned it into a nightclub, and and
it became this like massive thing there. I actually know
a guy that went to my high school is actually
developing now the eleven condos, Like they're they're building condos
on top of it, and it's gonna be like the
eleven so you can just like be your condo. There's
the strip club, there's a restaurant up there, and it's
all one closed ecosystem, and he's going to be surprised
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that they have like the eleven healthcare for like the
like you you have to expand yeah, yeah, who needs that?
Who needs that? So that would be that would to
be the coin. I had difficulty learning how much of
Miami coin was worth. It seemed like about twenty cents
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right now, but the translating it in dollars backwards and
forwards is not going to be easy. And also, by
the way, when you dig into the weeds on it,
like the money sort of generated by new people buying
or mining Miami coins, most of that goes to the
City of Miami. So you're actually still like getting if
you hate taxes, you still are getting taxed at a
certain rate. Once you accept that, you're like getting less
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of the Miami coins totally. I mean it's I mean,
I don't know what you guys think about crypto in general,
Like I I find it to be like totally ludicrous,
uh and uh and you know absolutely like kind of
in a weird way, uh, asking profound questions about the
nature of money and economics and things like that, Um,
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that no one is really thinking about too much anymore,
you know, like like why do we do this? And
what is the you know, like what is the actual
role of money in a society or like why do
why does money have value? And like the crypto guys
will always tell you it is like, well, anything could
be anything could be value, like as long as people
like believe in it. And I think that that's one
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of the reasons why crypto people are such so evangelical
about it, right, um, is that in a way it
has to it runs on faith, like as if it
were like a religion or anything like that. And honestly,
the high priest right now is Francis Suarez, Like I
mean just the fact that just the fact that this
crypto community has found someone in the public sector who
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has been willing to extend a hand and be like,
you know, just whatever you guys want to do, we'll
do it here. Because up until now, everyone in the
public sector, especially at the state, at the national level,
understands that in order for there to be a national
government in anything, whether it's left right dictatorship, communist utopia, whatever,
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that a national government has to have a monopoly on
two things. Who first is state violence, That it has
to have a monopoly on violence, and the second has
to have a monopoly on the currency, you know. And
if it doesn't, then it just literally sees us to exist,
like there's just no point in it. And that's what
the critical guys be like, well that's what our goal is,
stateless world, you know. And I'm like, the only thing
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is like, please, I hope they stop soon. I don't
want to pay the college situation of my son in
n f t S. I just want to I just
want to have a normal life with dollar. I moved
here to get dollars. They told me that was the
real money. Does the American dream please? I mean, what
I have to do now gold where you where that
guy keeps moving? Where is it real money? So please
stick to dollars. I don't I don't want this yet
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to you guys. Just but are you your next stand in?
Your next stand up act will have to be an
n f T. They're not gonna there's like a comedy clubs.
Are you crazy? Uh, no way, it's gonna be an
n f T. Do you know how people have called
me to do it and there's a cool thing about
doing an FT jokes and comedy and I just, I
just I just don't want any part of that because
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it's just horrible people. I mean, if you change your jackets,
you guys, stop wearing those jackets and stop using that haircut,
maybe I will pay attention. I mean, I have I
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have news from Chile. I mean, if you if you
stopping now, because this is also part of the future.
We talked about the future. This is the future of candidates,
the future of running for president. Listen. During the last
last election, there was one guy who started running for
president in Chile because he was giving advice, financial advice
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on morning shows. His name is Franco Parsi. He was
just like giving you like, hey, you want to like
pay less for this, just do this, this, this, this,
and you know that kind of is Franco. Yeah, that
sounds like that could be like a New Jersey like
talk show host, pizza owner, a joint owner, give me
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a couple of slices. So he was teaching, like I
don't know, tips to do your financials better. And he
got subtraction. People, what's excited about this guy here? Run
and he got ten percent on the election. That is
very impressive for nobody. And everyone was like, oh, this
is interesting. And then he went to Alabama. He for
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four years, he was a teacher in the University of Alabama.
That's what he said. I mean, there was no proof
of that. But then there was a proof. Yeah, when
he was accused of uh, sexual harassment to a group
of students and he said you can you can YouTube
and there's a video of the news story of like Franco,
bodycy can't teach in this university anymore because of this,
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and uh, you know what, he tried again run for president.
You know, it's not a big deal if you if
you know you can be accused of sexual run harassment
and then run for president. It's not a big deal,
a disgraced requisite. Yeah, Now it's like a prerequisite for
the job. I mean after Trump's like if you and Biden,
by the way, for for for that matter, um, you
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know both credible have credible accusations of sexual assault, harassment, whatever, um,
and they both want so like it seems like it's
a part of the job. There will be there. There
will be a president elected from not living in his
own country. Right, It's got to have happened already, probably,
I mean I'm not sure, but this time this is
a crazy thing. Like so he's starting like doing just
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lives like he's running again in this election this cycle.
Actually the election night is this Sunday. Um. So he
started running just online because he was like I have
to work. I mean, I don't have the money from
the government, so I keep working here. And it was
like you're not in the University of Alabama anymore, and
he was like no, no, no no, I'm doing some some
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stuff and like need to be here, need to be here.
So I'm gonna like run my campaign online and then
a month before the election, I will go there, I
will tour the country, and I will win. So all
his followers starting like, yeah, he's coming back November seven,
He's gonna be back in Chile. He's gonna be back.
And then he started making the videos of him, like
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going to the airport like him and there's like a picture, Yeah,
it's in green screen. It's like that scene in Wayne's world.
Are like, Hi, we're in Delaware and we're having a
good time. Yeah, You're like, I'm finally going. I'm finally
going to Chile. And then he's like, oh, I was
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at the airport and I brought my PCR and it
was negative. But someone on the line to me like, hey,
you need to do rapid test right now. So it
took me to a room and it did rapid test
and he was inconclusive. So I cannot go. Guys, I'm sorry.
And he made this video and this is a true
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He's like, I'm so sorry. I mean it's inconclusive. I'm
gonna have to take the test again, but probably he
will be fine. Why this is like a he's a
catfish candidate, you know, caish, this is like cat fishing
people do. They're like, oh, I'm on my way to
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the airport. Oh there's a car accident. I can't come
to visit you like that. That totally didn't happen to be.
So then for three days he was like, I'm taking
the test again, but maybe I'm feeling that. Well, I'm sorry,
And then he took the test and it was positive.
So now he cannot go to the election. So he's
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not gonna be it's gonna be the first candidate never
touching Chilean soil during the campaign. How many of his
on perfect is Yeah, that's my theory. Do you think
it's fake? Yeah? I mean, first of all, no one
ever taking the airport from to a room to do
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a rap. I don't know, I never heard this before ever.
You know that's fake. Yeah. Well, what I'm what I'm
wondering though, is if he he made up that story obviously,
but then maybe maybe later than he just like went
around like the hospital and was just like people with COVID,
like just breathing my mouth, breathing him mouth, give me COVID,
like just desperately trying to get COVID so that he
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can avoid Honestly, I hope he wins, so he for
four years, he's go, guys, I cannot go. Sorry, I mean, yeah,
well this is like, you know, Eric Adams, the new
mayor of New York, doesn't live in New York, and um,
you're not supposed to do that. And he has an
apartment in New York that he claims he he lives in,
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and a journalist like sat outside his apartment for like
an entire week, like like in a car steak out
and he showed up only once. Um, And he actually
took his car, his own car, Eric Adams in mayor Lefe,
New York, and just parked it on the sidewalk like
in the middle of the sidewalk and then just like
left it there for a while. Like he's just the
strangest guy. But that's that, You're right, That's going to
be the future of of public office is that you're
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just not gonna have to live in the place that
you're from. You're gonna do everything by zoom. Um you know,
like if if you, if if everything else is on zoom,
why should the president have to be in the White
House or whatever the equivalent of the White House is
in Chela? Yeah, I have I haven't done the math
on this, like really crunched the data, but it does
seem like weirdness is on its way up. Among elected officials,
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they're all their their lives just seem a lot weirder
than they used to. I don't know if that's because
of social media we know more about them or something,
or just weirder people are getting involved, or the process
of doing it in a in a world where you're
always on camera, this is weirdening to you. But man,
there's just some some just not even like a shocking
or anything, just kind of awe just like what does
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that person steal? Eric Adams is one. Well. I think
part of it is that right now, to be a
powerful politician is one of the most awful, thankless jobs
in the universe. Um, Like you have all the public
scrutiny without any of the perks that comes from, you know,
like being a powerful person, Like you don't make that
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much money. You might make money afterwards, but you don't
make that much money anymore. Um. And before if you
were like Gary Hart or JFK or whatever, you can
like be sleeping with like all the most beautiful women
in the universe and like no one would ever know.
Um And now you can't do that anymore. And it's
just like bros. And yeah, you have to like grovel
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with like the tech bros and beg them for Yeah,
you gotta hang out with them all day, from sleeping
with starlets to groveling with technics. Yeah yeah. So like
what kind of psycho actually choose is that job? Yeah?
Another like, the behavior of this man is unbelievably weird.
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Disappears for two weeks at a time and next time
we see him. Is that one of the weirdest winnings
anyone's ever witnessed of Ivy Getty the oil Hair, which
I get that basically, Gavin Newsom is a creation of
the Getty family and he probably has to show up there,
but also like, where was he for two weeks? What's
going on here? Yeah? Just to finish with PARSI, one
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of my favorite things about this guy is he keeps
going in his Instagram account like who cares about like
being there or not? What mother is my idea? And
he said he has sucks but that's something he's like
like anyway, I love the idea of like someone who's like,
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but wait, your idea? Sex? Who cares about my ideas?
Really matters? Move on to a new thing, you know.
And the comments. The comments are great because he's like
most of the people are like his followers were like,
I was about to both we never show up. My
fan is making fun of me. Everyone think that it's catfish.
That's what happens when you get catfish. Your family makes
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fun of you, and your friends are like, what the
fund is wrong with you? Dude? You know, like she
was very obviously fake like that. The people are like,
I have five people want to vote for you, and
now everyone is making fun of me. Please? Stuff? Are
the fans of this guy like typical of the kinds
of people you see on Catfish, like sort of lonely um,
somewhat gullible. People who supports is the Latino crypto bro.
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Also a lot of those are like, yeah, I know taxes,
I want to be rich. Now I'm not rich. You
know that's this is his guy. Okay, well that is excellent.
Thank you for the report from Chile. I had for
a third story. I wanted to bring up something that
I read in the New Yorker. It was about the
president of Honduras. His name is Juan Orlando Hernandez and
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his brother has been the best brother. There's been indicted
on drug smugling charges that it seems like the two
of them working together helped to bring enormous amounts of
cocaine into the United States. Um and apparently when this
was reported, But the detail that I wanted to get
at was when this was this is a New York article.
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But Johnny Anderson and there Apparently they told Kamala Harris,
she's been sworn in the vice president. She's briefed about
the allegations against President Hernandez. And an official who was
president said that Harris, a former prosecutor, had an immediate response,
let's go get him now. Uh. And then for enthesis,
the White House officials said the Vice president's team has
never heard or say anything like this, which, yeah, I
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bet they haven't, but it seems totally crazy. The Vice
President United States is told, Okay, the president of hun
Doris is probably involved in smuggling cocaine. Her reaction is like,
let's go like she wanted to invade him him. Yeah,
let's let's noriega him. This is like if you subbed
out could the name Kamala Harris and put in the
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name Donald Donald Trump for that question, it would fit.
It would fit perfectly, Like if Donald Trump was briefed
on some awful president in Central America, Like can we
kill him? Let's just let's just there's just murder him.
So Dan, you know, you're you're briefed on America's uh
misadventures in Central America. What's going on? What's the story
of Honduras? What is the problem there? How is it
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that a basically coke trafficker as the president? And that's
like the best relatively can you do? We have about
ten minutes left on the podcast? Yeah, what can you
do to help? Uh? Well, this all goes back to too,
that the year two thousand and nine when um, there
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was a military coup in Honduras to depose these sort
of left leaning democratically elected president um who uh you know,
as any left wing leader in Latin America will have
happened to him every once in a while. The military
just was like, no, you can't do that, and then
they deposed him. Um. The coup was opposed by every
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single country in Latin America, even a lot of even
a bunch of right wing countries, um, except for the
United States and I believe Godombia, which is like basically
a vassal state of the United States. At this point,
um and UH. At the time, the president was Obama
and the Secretary of State was Hillary Clinton. UM, and
they supported the military coup against the recommendations or the
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wishes of of basically every single other Latin American country
in the hemisphere. UM. And what happened after that was
that essentially this guy Juanna Orlando Rnandez was installed as
president and received full backing from the US, you know,
full backing, and he um went on a campaign to
privatize their pension system, uh you know, uh, cut social services.
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All that stuff created a massive uh social crisis in Honduras,
which is why do you guys remember that story of
the caravan of migrants. That's that's because of that UM.
It's they were all coming from Honduras. They were not
coming from like Nicaragua or or other places. They were
coming from from Honduras because of this massive social crisis
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that was unleashed after the cow data in two and
I meant it just decide other they mentioned in this
article and then John the Anderson article that like the
US doesn't really we're not that worried about Nicaragua because
they're migrants, just go go south into Costa Rica. So
we just don't, you know, we don't concern ourselves with
their problems. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Um, you know, I
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mean the whole Nicaragua things a whole other story. But
in Honduras as a whole other candidates it's another ton
pocket but um yeah, and then it turns out, OOPSI Daisy,
the caporner Hernandez has been tied to drug trafficking, which
if you know any history of the United States in
all in Central America, or if you've watched any movies
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like say American Made starring Tom Cruise, UM or Kill
the Messenger starring Jeremy Renner, you know that a little
organization also friends of the show called the c I
a UM has often been linked with drug trafficking in
Central America. UM. Why do you ask does the CIA
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do drug trafficking in Central America? Well, basically, it's like
the best way for them to launder money, UM, keep
money off the books. It's a it's a great way
for them to um, you know, control Um. You know,
it's basically like the worst possible thugs to do kind
of assassination campaigns. All the good stuff that the CIA
is very into UM often comes from the drug trade. Uh,
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and this is true in Central America as it's true,
Um when they sort of allied with drug traffickers on
the ports of Marseille right after World War Two. They've
just been doing it from the very very beginning. Um.
So yeah, it shouldn't come as a huge shock that
the right wing maniac that the United States installed after
a military coup and Honduras turned out to be a
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drug trafficker. Well, well, freedom is in free and that's true. Ye,
you gotta you gotta break a few eggs to make
an omelet, as they say, Yeah, I mean the alternative.
His neighbor in El Salvador has gone full bitcoin, so
you know, relative to that, cocaine might be a someone
honest way to make a living. Well, yeah, okay, it's
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still it's still have value in the market. Like it's
not gonna go down. That's true. If I can give
you a thousand Miami coins or one kilo of cocaine,
which do you think, I don't know. I don't brought
the cocaine, but I brought some n f T. It's
like this party sucks. This party bucket's like hey check out. No, no,
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it's not it's it's a it's an n f T
of cocaine. You put it on the glass table and
then you just look at the jif and it's just
the line blows itself. If you asked, if you ask
the president of Miami like you have to get rid
of either cocaine or cryptocurrency from your city, well, what
would his honest answer me? Well, you know what, you
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know what his honest answer would be, He'd like, oh,
let's get rid of cocaine. And then immediately a phone
like the red phone would ring, and he up and
be like and it would be like, you know, like
some criminal overlord. And he's like, yeah, no, you can't
do that, and then like a gun just appears next
to his head and he's just like okay, okay, yeah,
we'll get rid of the crypto and keep the cocaine.
I think I'm almost certain this is the accurate quote.
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I don't have it at hand, but I feel like
I remember the Mayor of London, Ken Livingston, the mayor
before British Johnson, at one point in an interview said
like he was like, why is London defeating Frankfort as
a banking capital? And he was like, well, you know
your banker, you're making a lot of money. You like
to go out and do a little cocaine, and you
can't do that in Frankfort that was like his argument
for why London is keeping the edge. Again, I may
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not remember exactly I purely, but it's something like that.
Maybe slightly was quoted. Don't quote me on that, but
don't quote me on my miscope. But I think I
am getting at something, which is your sophisticated maryors usually
know what the appeal of the city is to the
people that spend a lot of money in the city. Well, okay,
anyone else have solutions on Honduras? Or should we move
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on to our foot and final story? I think we
do the fourth story? Well yeah, well the solution to
hunters call your congressman. Here's the number of the email
of your congressman. You call your congressman. That ever worked?
That ever? Has everyone? No, it's never worked in the
history of of American politics. That was it. That was
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the great scene. Do you guys watch that movie Sorry
to Bother You? Yeah, yeah, there's that great scene and
Sorry to Bother You where he like discovers this like
awful corporate conspiracy to like literally turn huge amounts of
people into like literal hoarse slaves, and he like blows
the whistle, goes on all the late night talk shows
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and he's like, call your congressman, you know, like this
has got to stop, Like it just doesn't work. I
would love I would love to see, like I would
like to follow the if I called my congressman said hey,
I'm really worried about this. My congressman is Adam Shift,
by the way, I think if I called, if I
called him and I was like, I'm really concerned about
the problems in Honduras. I'd like you to do something
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about that. I assume I get you know, I could
probably talk to a person in his office and that yeah, yeah,
that's an episode. Yeah you should do it and record
it and and release it on the pod. Dude, Well,
I'm sure they'd say, like it, we're very concerned, and
we'll definitely relay your message. And then I'd like to
see where where my message goes in the computer, if anyone,
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if they bother typing it into any sort of Excel
spreadsheet file. Least important calls. Nobody absolutely nobody called that
nothing or do they just not even does it just
get put in a waste basket. What what is the
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final story? What is the final story? Tonight? Okay, final story.
I'm gonna this is a bit of sports reporting that
I myself did personally. Last weekend. I was pleased to
attend the World Pro Bowl Riding Finals in Las Vegas, Nevada.
They'd sold out the T Mobile Arena to do Pro
Bowl Riding, which, if you don't know anything about it,
it's it's sort of a spin off sport. Pro Bowl
writing is its own league, and it's a spinoff of
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a rodeo event, which is just it is what it
sounds like. They've got a big, nasty, thousand plus pound
bull that's been bred to buck and just be crazy
and is encouraged to do that by a rope around
the back of it, and a cowboy gets on the
back and they let the bull out of the shoot
and the cowboy has to stay on for eight seconds.
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If he stays on for eight seconds, it's a qualified ride,
and h he gets a certain number of points. And
this last weekend they were crowning the world champion. Now
the world champion, uh this year? Where do you guys
think he was from? You're gonna think Texas, Oklahoma. No,
you'd think it'd be somebody named like, yeah, he'll do
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that at ninety one and he. I bet if Clint
wasn't busy prepping Crimacho too, he probably would have been
there and he probably the bulls bull had to ride him.
But the world champion, second year in a row for
this guy is named Jose Vetour Lemmy and he's from Brazil.
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The number like three guys from Brazil, the number four
guys from Brazil. Pro Bowl riding is dominated by dudes
from Brazil, and I was thinking, I was going and thinking,
I'm going to the most American possible thing. It's going
to be Cody Baxter against Dakota also Baxter, but no,
it was Brazilian dudes left and right. I didn't know
what to make of this. To people know about this,
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I mean, I guess it's not that surprising. Brazil's kind
of got a macho culture. They're chopping down the Amazon
to make more and more room for bulls. I guess
cattle is the thing down there. But it was kind
of eye opening to me about something I didn't know
about Latin America. I first of all, I think this
is like the right way of the right way of
doing gentrification is just like putting like Latinos the very
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conservative sport events. Yeah, you know, because they're gonna be
like rooting for a Latino and you know, being conflicted,
and they like, you don't create a better place for everyone.
So I like this. I think there's a good angle here,
I should say, by the way that like it wasn't
like there was. I sort of thought maybe people would
be rooting for the Americans and booing for this dude,
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but no absolute respect for the love and he he
was amazing. I mean he was He could stay on
that pole no problem, and they would give him the narliest.
First of all, Yeah, why did you go to this?
Is this because W and me owns that thing. Long story,
it's not unrelated to that. I had pitched to these
guys animated show about bull riding because I was because
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the bulls themselves get a score. That was what I
learned the bulls. I learned that I was watching bull
riding on TV, and I was like, Oh, they're going
to crown a champion bull as well as a champion writer.
So then I was like, if there were a cowboy
and a bull who'd grown up together. We're friends, but
now they were competing and maybe they double cross each other.
Like if you're at a cowboy and a and a
bull who could talk to each other, that could be
some interesting drama. And I thought that could be a
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cartoon series. I pitched it to Pro Bowl Riding. They
were like, amazing, get over here, we want to show
you the sport so you can really like be informed. Amazing.
So that's how I ended up there. Um, I was
not bored. It's it's a compelling Yeah. Now you're gonna
have to like, I mean gonna be like, yeah, let's
do the show, but you have to bring Lane Manuel
Miranda to do it. Yes, he's the only acceptable to Hollywood. Yeah. Um.
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I like thinking about the Brazil thing, I'm like, you know,
it's it's it's funny, but I'm like not that surprised.
I mean Brazil, Um, Brazil was essentially like a slave
plantation society, like the largest in the world. Um uh
for a long time. I mean I think Brazilian Brazil
outlawed slavery after the United States. Uh yeah, which is
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really late, right, very late, very extremely almost car Yeah,
um and uh and and you know the sort of
legacy of that is still there, and that it's still
very much especially in the countryside, dominated by these kind
of like large ranch plantation hands and things like that.
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And then I'm sure they have adopted a lot of
the cultural uh norms uh of the US plantation society.
But the other the thing that also reminded me of
is that, you know, in international polo, a similar thing
happens with Argentine's where Argentines absolutely dominate internet national polo
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to the extent where they have to they have to
pass a rule where they limited the number of Argentines
you can have on your team, Like if you were like,
you know, the British pol polo team, you can only
have four Argentines because there were so many good Argentines,
they were so dominant that they wouldn't fit on the
Argentinean national team. So they would all just get national
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like they would all get like dolt dual national analities
and compete for other teams um. And at one point
it was like the World Cup of Polo was like,
you know, France versus Argentina and it was really just
a bunch of Argentines playing each other. Um, so they
had to they had to limit the number of Argentines
you can have. Yeah. Personally, I think i'd rather like Polo.
Seems a little more um classy and less uh spine damaging,
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although I guess it is probably pretty dangerous too. Yeah,
but I mean the fancy lads like the House of
Windsor plays it, so it can't be that day. Yes,
writing is also the House of Windsor involved in it? Yeah. Possibly. Yeah,
it's more dangerous when when one of the English princes
rides of bold and we'll know the British royal family
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is ready to be back on top. Yeah. Um. Well, guys,
I think this has been quite a review of what's
going on in Latin America. We had Miami coin of
the latest from Chile's exile presidential candidate, a bit of
talk about in recent history about Honduras. Nando, thank you
for all the information on that and some sports reporting
um from Brazil where they continue to dominate Pro Bowl writing. Guys,
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