August 26, 2021 • 23 mins
This week, on 4 From the South, we talk about Haiti, a country still reeling from a presidential assassination and a devastating earthquake. Then, the Argentine ruling class is attempting to get rid of the cutest animal of all time, the capybara. Also, the huge norteño music band you've never heard about, and a meme legend in the Southern Cone.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
We're back with for from the South. I'm Steve Healey
and my co host fa Rizzio Capano is here. How
are you guys. Welcome back to South America today. Okay,
it's really good to be I love being on the
show with you, Fab because I get to I'm sort
of the straight man. I get to be the fool
and the dumb guy, and I get to learn about
Latin America from you. That's the premise of our show,
(00:40):
and I think we're doing a beautiful job. Let's dive
right into it. The first story I wanted to talk about.
I think I actually mean more about this one than
you do, Fab, but I'm completely mystified by it. The
president of Haiti was assassinated. His wife was also shot
up quite a bit. It was not a good scene.
You know what. It's crazy about that news. It's like
(01:02):
it's not that long ago, but it's not the worst
thing that happened to Haiti in this month. Haiti can
catch a break. When you hear when the Haiti is
in the news, it's not because like they've discovered a
new wonderful form of food or something. It's because like
a thousand people are dead well, and by the way,
I I a couple of them, A huge community of
people from Haiti went to Chile because she opened their
(01:25):
boardies for for people from Haiti, and they have amazing food.
They're super nice and they don't deserve they deserve any
of them. No, they definitely don't like it. And it's
the history of Haiti. Of course, they had a slave uprising,
drove the French out kind of an awesome, uh, independent story,
and then the world put the screws to them. Basically,
(01:46):
they made Haiti pay France I think until well into
recent times for like the stolen property themselves, which is
kind of ridiculous. Uh. But so the latest thing that happened,
Haiti has fallen into some kind of anarchy. Basically, the president,
whose name was Moise he uh, tried to stick around
(02:07):
a little while longer, and it seems like some people,
probably some wealthy people, who didn't think this guy was
strong enough to hold Haiti together, hired some guys to
shoot him. They hired guys from a company in the
United States. You're allowed in the United States to just
open a company that's just like shooters. I mean. The
most confusing part for me is this part because I mean,
(02:27):
I want to connect this without all story. I don't
I don't even remember when they tried to stage a
coup in Venezuela and it was just this like a
bunch of American losers that went to like I mean,
they were catch immediately, uh, and yeah, they were filming it.
They were live tweeting their own coup. So they kind
of gave a tip off to the Venezuelan government. And
(02:49):
I was thinking, like, Okay, if you want to do
this again and you want to try to kill a president,
don't don't hire an American company. No, we have a
bad rep at this. Where were you know, in the fifties,
we kind of pulled off a couple of coupis Guatemala
and Iran. They both backfired horribly on us. We should
be getting the message that we shouldn't be in the
business anymore. You you try to stage your own coup
(03:12):
and you fail. I mean, you you stage to go
your own country, in your own land, and you you
weren't able to pull it off. So yeah, just quit,
don't try this again. The name of this the name
of the company, by the way, is called Worldwide Investment
Development Group and that's basically just some They hired some
guys to shoot up the president of Habe. Not a
cool I I call me crazy. I think it should
(03:35):
be illegal in the United States to offer up mercenaries
to another company country to assassinate their president. Yeah. I mean,
once again, it's like, we have all these tech companies
and I think they're destroying the world already, and all
coming from from San Francisco or what a way from
the US, and so please don't know more of this.
(03:58):
Uh And and the thing is like most of the
people who tried to kill this this this press, I mean,
who killed this guy were Colombians. And this is the
most confusing part for me. Why they were Colombians. I
guess that, you know. I when I hear about mercenaries,
they're often like South African guys, but maybe Colombians there
there's been pretty much ongoing civil war in Colombia for
(04:21):
the last since there's been Colombia, Right, So there's a
lot of work for UH soldiery type kind of guys.
They like the lifestyle. They're in Miami. They can get
hired to go do a job in Haiti. Now the
job got totally botched and some of these Colombian assassins
have been captured, but it's unclear who's in charge. But
they're not having a great time. I don't think this
(04:42):
is a good line of work if you're a young
Colombian paramilitary. I mean, there's so much space in the
reggaeton business for Colombians. Why you choose this path. There's
so much room in the music industry for you. Wait wait, wait,
assassinated and president just put put lay down some eats.
And by the way, I mean there's many cheety presidents
(05:04):
out there. Why they wanted from Haiti? Why those guys?
I mean, if you, if you take a job, just like,
there's so many options out there for you. She's this country,
live them alone. They have like so many bad things
going on, and there was an earthquake a couple of
days ago. It's just like still horrible. I'm sorry people
(05:26):
from Haiti for all this. I feel like, well part
of the problem. It were totally. And then there's there
is one man I know of, an American man who
is doing, as far as I know, doing very positive
work in Haiti, and that's Mr Sean Penn, the actor.
He's been in Haiti off and on for a really
long time. One of the Colombian assassins used to be
(05:47):
on his payroll as a security guard. Kind of an
interesting All the articles mentioned that one of the guys
used to work for Shawn pen so now he's in
a in a less good line of work, assassinating presidents
and not defending Seun pen I got. I have to say,
most of these actors who talk about politics and what's
going on in the world, they don't know anything about it.
And you know, you can tell like they just tried
(06:07):
to like do some pr stunt for the audience and
tried to look cool. But Champaine is one of the
few that actually do stuff. You know, he's he's like
a legit uh social justice warrior. Yeah. And and Haiti
is not particularly glamorous. It's not like he can stay
in like the ribs. And I'm sure he's exposed to
(06:28):
some pretty difficult situations and there he is. He doesn't
have to do that, and there he isn't Haiti the
way he's so nice that you imagine you're in trouble
and your countries like in a desperate mood and you
don't know what to do, and then you get some
help from the guy from High Times at Richmond Hide,
and that's the that's the guy who saved your country.
No dead man walking is here. That's cool, that's nice.
(06:51):
After Fast Times A rich One High? What is your
favorite Sean Penn roll? Uh, none of them? That's the
last movie I watched from him. After that? After that
is like, there's no future for this guy. He's really famous.
Everybody knows him, and yet I struggle to think of
what his great parts are. Yeah, I mean I don't
I don't know what he's doing in movies, but I
(07:12):
know that he's saving some countries. So that's that's more
than enough. It seems to me, by the way, Haiti,
I don't know. It seems like this guy named Jimmy
Barbecue who's sort of put together a group of basically
unified some gangs and trying to take some control of
the country. Um, maybe offering the job to Sean Penn
wouldn't be so bad. Well, can we stop for a second.
In the name Jimmy Barbecue, it's that's that's the guy
(07:35):
is called Jimmie Barbecue. Yeah, that's the guy's nickname, his
real name. Hang on, I'm looking it up. Like a
good podcaster an airport restaurant. Is the guy who who
killed president? Yeah, Jimmy Barbecue, Sure is he Shresier is
the guy's name, And he's a dude in Haiti who's
(07:55):
it's He seems to me he gives me a slight
um uh. Pablo Escobar vibe like he's doing good things
in the community, but it seems like maybe he's also
like running the crime or something like like a mixed
bag public figure. Again, well, in twenty more years, we
will watch a Netflix show about this. It'll be very
good for the Netflix show. It's really nice to see
(08:17):
things happening in the world and know that Netflix will
be on it in about twenty years. Yeah, so let's
just wait for that. That's a tough The Haiti assassination
(08:39):
is a tough story, and that's not really what we
specialize in here. We do address it sometimes. But there's
a wonderful story you brought to my attention about copy
bearers in Argentina. By the way, I love Cape Barras.
I think they're beautiful animals, so cool, and there seems
to be like socialist with this information that we just had,
(09:00):
because in Argentina there was a gated community, a very rich, fancy,
boring group of people living in a gated community. They
were nor Delta, Yeah, that's the name of it. And
that land, it was the land of the capa Barus.
They were there before them. So now they're coming back.
Now they're taking their land back. And the I mean,
(09:23):
what I know is like there's a war between like
the parentists who support the capa Baras and they actually
on Twitter calling to like capparbarias like socialist icons like
Zevara kind of stuff, and this rich people who live
in this gated community. They wanted they tried to kill
(09:44):
these animals, but is illegal to kill these animals. So
capabarus one, it absolutely should be illegal to kill. Capybara
seems like the chillest animal possible. Anytime you see a
video of them, they're just kind of hanging out and
they're eating a little something and they go in the
water and they're just exit perfect TikTok animal. Totally cool. Yeah,
and somehow like there's absolutely no question if you're a
(10:06):
rich person and you're in a war with capybaras, you're
on the wrong side. The Capybaras are on the right side. Yeah.
I mean, they're very viral animals. And there's a video
actually that the capabara is drinking some matte if you
saw this, but I haven't seeing like some and the
capabara is just like enjoying his meal and like drinking.
(10:28):
I mean, once again, I think rich people are looking
worse and worse every day, and now they're fighting with
like the you can't you can't destroy something that is cute.
Cute is the most powerful thing. Right now, the capa
bara's sipping some mate, is smoking a cigarette, lounging. Now,
(10:50):
this is happening in the Piranha River, which we talked
about last week, the world's soybean Mega farm super Highway
UH down there in Argentina, which seems like it's the
Parana River. Keep an eye on it. You hear about
it first here on four from the south. But this
is where it's all going down. All the problems of
global UH, climate change, over exploitation of resources, soy beef,
(11:14):
it's all going down there in the Parana River in Argentina.
And the capa Baras have an answer, which is we're
going to hang out and take over and drink armante
and be chill. Oh yeah, guys, I once again, I
think this is maybe what we need here in the US.
It's like a cute animal telling us like stop global warming.
You know, it's like, what is the cutest animal in
(11:36):
the US. Well, I think we take them for granted,
but like the chipmunk and the squirrel are both very
cute and um, highly appealing. The prairie dogs really good, um,
and then like the hamster and stuff. I guess that's
sort of just a domesticated animal. But we have we
got out of The buffalo is great. There was a
good video a while ago of a bison walking down
the road in Yellowstone and it was like holding up
(11:57):
all the cars and everybody was like, yes, wait for
the buffalo. He he gets the rights. I think that.
Do you think that people in general are kind of
like I think a lot of us are agreeing that
animals are better than us, right absolutely. I feel like
the mood is like humans, we don't have a lot
of pride in ourselves as humans the way I think
we did in like the nineteenth century. I think we're
(12:17):
we know we're kind of bad, but I think you're right. Squirrels.
I think a number one of like the potentially leftist
animals waiting to make a revolution in this country. An,
I think hamsters are more of like corporate democrats. Yes,
in a way I didn't realize. I didn't realize that
Paronista meant kind of like socialist. I assume because of
a vida that paron would be like the rich people. Listen.
(12:40):
I mean parah is um is whole podcast series that
you can be in the left and the right, and
you can be in the parenthesis spectrum. It's just another world.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Once again, we
need to do an episode, especial episode trying to explain,
and we should bring an expert. We should bring an
argentinean uh fellow to explain. Is like the nuances of
(13:02):
baroness m because it is a mess. One of our
themes here is on the show is the the Latin
americanification of the United States. I was just in Las Vegas,
UH to see SummerSlam, the wrestling event, but I was
struck by one of the big stadiums there, the MGM
Grand Arena, sold out for two nights for a band
(13:24):
I've never heard of called Groupo fair May ranchera yah
Mexican Noortago kind of music. Talk to me, well, I
have to say, you send me that link. I've never
heard of them before, but I start, you know, connecting
the dots. And first, they're huge. They have like four
five millions of followers every every social media they managed
(13:48):
to like exploit at the highest level. They know what
they're doing. They definitely know what they're doing. Yeah, the
style on these dudes is pretty cool, like the flashy
shirts they have. It's sort of like silky easy pattern shirts.
They're big dudes. It's unclear to me how many guys
are in the band, but it seems like it's as
you mentioned, it's kind of like BTS, Like there's it
might be twenty guys, it might be ten guys. People
(14:11):
come and go. As far as I can tell as
a as a person who just learned about this and
the other day, there's no clear number of members to
group of group of firm. Yeah, this is high Speed
Red Chera And yeah, they're like bt S and they're
they're massive. And once again, it's those kind of things
that I think happening more and more lately. There's a
(14:31):
lot of things that are like, oh, these people are
really famous, and I have no idea like, yes, used
to be like everyone that was famous. It was kind
of like famous for everyone. Now you can be just
famous for a group of people and being billionaire. That's
absolutely true. Yes, you know, to be famous BTS I
kind of I heard of them. By the time I
(14:52):
had heard of them, they were already probably the most
famous band in the world. Then they had the McDonald's.
That seems like the next level transition when you have
a meal McDonald's. I went and tried it, the BTS meal.
I thought it was pretty good. They had a couple
of different sauces you can't usually get. Then the other
day I saw McDonald's. Somebody named Saweetie has a mule
and McDonald's again. The first time I've ever heard of
Saweetie is she is big enough to have a meal
(15:15):
at McDonald's. The meal sounded awesome. It's a big mac,
a bunch of nuggets, a huge sprite um and I
guess Sweetie is famous for eating really crazy and kind
of interesting foods. One thing she eats is oysters, and
she'll put the seasoning packet from some ramen on there,
which I thought was like a mind blowing innovation, really interesting.
(15:36):
So obviously she's a pretty culinary genius. But you know, yeah,
the first time I'm hearing of these people is they're
big enough to have a meal at McDonald's. That's nuts,
that's huge. So well, that's that's the world now. I mean,
in the couple of the next couple of years, we
got to see more and more famous people who are unknown. Yes,
that's that's that's the way things are right now. I
(16:10):
want to talk about someone who was really famous and this,
I mean it's hard to explain who is the guy.
I mean, once in a while, I'm going to bring
some characters just for you guys, and just to know
these are like famous characters in Latin America. They're they're
famous as or Dashian level. It makes a lot of sense,
what with the thing we were talking about. So this
(16:31):
guy died into those since sixteen, but he was like
the biggest star of Argentina for five years. His name
is Regardo the four and now he's like a meme legend,
a meme legend. Okay, this is it's good on the
show to be queuing us into the top memes going
on in Latin America. Yeah, we need to know this
(16:53):
information because once in a while you see a mem
and it's like, what's going on over there? And well,
now I can explain it to you. So there's this
guy who was he was super wealthy because his parents
were the owners of the huge, huge chocolate factory in
South America called Fort Fair for fair and like Felford
(17:16):
fel Forth, you're right, and by the way, chocolate chocolate millionaire.
That seems like one of the purest ways to be
really rich, right, Like it's probably the cap of bears.
Will will skip you live and I won't eat out
your house? Yeah, no, uh. And so he was super wealthy.
He was worse. He never tried to even i mean
(17:39):
tried to work at anything. He would just want to
be famous. So since he was a kid, well he
was gay. So his parents at the time they were
like very conservative that you know, the chocolate people are
very conservative. You know, chocolate people have such strict views
of sexuality. Absolutely, and so this this guy was trying
(18:00):
to hide it. But then he just decided to go
to Miami and tried to be famous in the US,
and of course he failed. He well, he's super buffed.
I mean he was super buffed. He was like full
of surgeries, have like fake hair. He was just such
a weird character. You can google him. He's a strong man.
He's a strong man because he hasn't you know what
he has that is helpful for becoming a celebrity. A
(18:22):
huge head. It appears his head is like enormous, huge head.
And this is kind of a person who's like, oh,
he worked out so much, he must be healthy. No,
he worked out in a healthy level, and he looks unhealthy.
You know, would be like a superbuff guy, but like
he looks super unhealthy at the same time. So this
he became a celebrity because he started his own reality
(18:45):
show on YouTube. When you Do was not even a
thing a Latin America because he was like the first YouTuber.
He was the first guy just famous for YouTube because
he started recording himself. He was a jerk with everyone.
He was like once again Paris Hilton Kardashian's you know,
that kind of lifestyle, but in a country that was
like in the toilet at the time, you know, the
economy was superbad. So he was just like the only
(19:08):
guy who was able to say I'm rich. Because he
was also like so weird and eccentric that it was
just like fantasy and he became the biggest star. He
had like some catchphrases like Miami. He just screamed Miami.
If you can make a claim on like if you're
the guy who screams Miami, that's you're gonna be rich.
(19:29):
You're gonna be rich. And then you have another one
he said like that. His mom was trying to like
it got the energy of the house with that fork. Uh.
I mean, he's just like insane character. So I recommend
to everyone listening to this show just do a deep
diving in rec out of the Ford. Now there's a
new podcast original Spotify also about his life. It's just
(19:53):
a sort of is it in English or Spanish? Is
in Spanish? But if you know any Spanish, this is
so much fun. It seems like a great way to
learn Spanish. Now I'm reading about him. He died in
kind of a weird way, like it seems like he
had a he had an injury and then somehow he
bled to death, like in the hospital or something. What
doesn't seem like what happens to a healthy man. He
had died of a heart attack following gastro intestinal bleeding.
(20:16):
I have like talents of surgeries, and he keeps like
having more surgeries. And he had a lot of back
pain because of the surgery because I think he like
tried to be high, you know, so they put like
some extension in his legs. Okay, there's there's a quality.
When you look at his photos, it does seem like, um,
he didn't quite land on what he wanted to look like,
(20:38):
and it's a little all over the map. You know,
it's neither natural. It doesn't appear natural, nor does it
appear like he had a really clear idea of what
he was going for. Well, I also like he well
he made it a couple of musicals like the Argentinian
Broadway called called about his own life. So he spent
(20:58):
a lot of money making musicals about his own life.
And uh, yep, he was just like a crazy character
that everyone loves. And now he's a meme that will
leave forever. Oh that's cool. He's so he's popular, he's
a beloved figure. He's yeah, I mean he's a beloved
feed for sure, in an ironic way, right right right,
I mean a goof but we like him. He screams Miami.
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What more, all you need to tell me about the
guy is he's the guy who yells Miami. So now
the US has been introduced to this badness called regard
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had the the Haiti Uh assassination, which which Haiti is
(22:27):
they speak French there? Do we call that Latin America?
I think so, I think so. Well, the Columbian guys
were involved and the whole operation was based out of Miami.
That was one. Two was a copy bearers. Three was
our discovery of a group of fair mate and four
was the introduction of a new character, Ricardo Forton. Is
if fort or just Ricardo fort I think it's Regardo
(22:48):
fort beautiful name, Richard fort. Yes, sounds like one of
the wealthies families in the US. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Rick
fort Yeah. If you had lived here, he probably would
have a senator something. Yeah. But well, once again, we
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We're back with for from the South. I'm Steve Healey
and my co host fa Rizzio Capano is here. How
are you guys. Welcome back to South America today. Okay,
it's really good to be I love being on the
show with you, Fab because I get to I'm sort
of the straight man. I get to be the fool
and the dumb guy, and I get to learn about
Latin America from you. That's the premise of our show,
(00:40):
and I think we're doing a beautiful job. Let's dive
right into it. The first story I wanted to talk about.
I think I actually mean more about this one than
you do, Fab, but I'm completely mystified by it. The
president of Haiti was assassinated. His wife was also shot
up quite a bit. It was not a good scene.
You know what. It's crazy about that news. It's like
(01:02):
it's not that long ago, but it's not the worst
thing that happened to Haiti in this month. Haiti can
catch a break. When you hear when the Haiti is
in the news, it's not because like they've discovered a
new wonderful form of food or something. It's because like
a thousand people are dead well, and by the way,
I I a couple of them, A huge community of
people from Haiti went to Chile because she opened their
(01:25):
boardies for for people from Haiti, and they have amazing food.
They're super nice and they don't deserve they deserve any
of them. No, they definitely don't like it. And it's
the history of Haiti. Of course, they had a slave uprising,
drove the French out kind of an awesome, uh, independent story,
and then the world put the screws to them. Basically,
(01:46):
they made Haiti pay France I think until well into
recent times for like the stolen property themselves, which is
kind of ridiculous. Uh. But so the latest thing that happened,
Haiti has fallen into some kind of anarchy. Basically, the president,
whose name was Moise he uh, tried to stick around
(02:07):
a little while longer, and it seems like some people,
probably some wealthy people, who didn't think this guy was
strong enough to hold Haiti together, hired some guys to
shoot him. They hired guys from a company in the
United States. You're allowed in the United States to just
open a company that's just like shooters. I mean. The
most confusing part for me is this part because I mean,
(02:27):
I want to connect this without all story. I don't
I don't even remember when they tried to stage a
coup in Venezuela and it was just this like a
bunch of American losers that went to like I mean,
they were catch immediately, uh, and yeah, they were filming it.
They were live tweeting their own coup. So they kind
of gave a tip off to the Venezuelan government. And
(02:49):
I was thinking, like, Okay, if you want to do
this again and you want to try to kill a president,
don't don't hire an American company. No, we have a
bad rep at this. Where were you know, in the fifties,
we kind of pulled off a couple of coupis Guatemala
and Iran. They both backfired horribly on us. We should
be getting the message that we shouldn't be in the
business anymore. You you try to stage your own coup
(03:12):
and you fail. I mean, you you stage to go
your own country, in your own land, and you you
weren't able to pull it off. So yeah, just quit,
don't try this again. The name of this the name
of the company, by the way, is called Worldwide Investment
Development Group and that's basically just some They hired some
guys to shoot up the president of Habe. Not a
cool I I call me crazy. I think it should
(03:35):
be illegal in the United States to offer up mercenaries
to another company country to assassinate their president. Yeah. I mean,
once again, it's like, we have all these tech companies
and I think they're destroying the world already, and all
coming from from San Francisco or what a way from
the US, and so please don't know more of this.
(03:58):
Uh And and the thing is like most of the
people who tried to kill this this this press, I mean,
who killed this guy were Colombians. And this is the
most confusing part for me. Why they were Colombians. I
guess that, you know. I when I hear about mercenaries,
they're often like South African guys, but maybe Colombians there
there's been pretty much ongoing civil war in Colombia for
(04:21):
the last since there's been Colombia, Right, So there's a
lot of work for UH soldiery type kind of guys.
They like the lifestyle. They're in Miami. They can get
hired to go do a job in Haiti. Now the
job got totally botched and some of these Colombian assassins
have been captured, but it's unclear who's in charge. But
they're not having a great time. I don't think this
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is a good line of work if you're a young
Colombian paramilitary. I mean, there's so much space in the
reggaeton business for Colombians. Why you choose this path. There's
so much room in the music industry for you. Wait wait, wait,
assassinated and president just put put lay down some eats.
And by the way, I mean there's many cheety presidents
(05:04):
out there. Why they wanted from Haiti? Why those guys?
I mean, if you, if you take a job, just like,
there's so many options out there for you. She's this country,
live them alone. They have like so many bad things
going on, and there was an earthquake a couple of
days ago. It's just like still horrible. I'm sorry people
(05:26):
from Haiti for all this. I feel like, well part
of the problem. It were totally. And then there's there
is one man I know of, an American man who
is doing, as far as I know, doing very positive
work in Haiti, and that's Mr Sean Penn, the actor.
He's been in Haiti off and on for a really
long time. One of the Colombian assassins used to be
(05:47):
on his payroll as a security guard. Kind of an
interesting All the articles mentioned that one of the guys
used to work for Shawn pen so now he's in
a in a less good line of work, assassinating presidents
and not defending Seun pen I got. I have to say,
most of these actors who talk about politics and what's
going on in the world, they don't know anything about it.
And you know, you can tell like they just tried
(06:07):
to like do some pr stunt for the audience and
tried to look cool. But Champaine is one of the
few that actually do stuff. You know, he's he's like
a legit uh social justice warrior. Yeah. And and Haiti
is not particularly glamorous. It's not like he can stay
in like the ribs. And I'm sure he's exposed to
(06:28):
some pretty difficult situations and there he is. He doesn't
have to do that, and there he isn't Haiti the
way he's so nice that you imagine you're in trouble
and your countries like in a desperate mood and you
don't know what to do, and then you get some
help from the guy from High Times at Richmond Hide,
and that's the that's the guy who saved your country.
No dead man walking is here. That's cool, that's nice.
(06:51):
After Fast Times A rich One High? What is your
favorite Sean Penn roll? Uh, none of them? That's the
last movie I watched from him. After that? After that
is like, there's no future for this guy. He's really famous.
Everybody knows him, and yet I struggle to think of
what his great parts are. Yeah, I mean I don't
I don't know what he's doing in movies, but I
(07:12):
know that he's saving some countries. So that's that's more
than enough. It seems to me, by the way, Haiti,
I don't know. It seems like this guy named Jimmy
Barbecue who's sort of put together a group of basically
unified some gangs and trying to take some control of
the country. Um, maybe offering the job to Sean Penn
wouldn't be so bad. Well, can we stop for a second.
In the name Jimmy Barbecue, it's that's that's the guy
(07:35):
is called Jimmie Barbecue. Yeah, that's the guy's nickname, his
real name. Hang on, I'm looking it up. Like a
good podcaster an airport restaurant. Is the guy who who
killed president? Yeah, Jimmy Barbecue, Sure is he Shresier is
the guy's name, And he's a dude in Haiti who's
(07:55):
it's He seems to me he gives me a slight
um uh. Pablo Escobar vibe like he's doing good things
in the community, but it seems like maybe he's also
like running the crime or something like like a mixed
bag public figure. Again, well, in twenty more years, we
will watch a Netflix show about this. It'll be very
good for the Netflix show. It's really nice to see
(08:17):
things happening in the world and know that Netflix will
be on it in about twenty years. Yeah, so let's
just wait for that. That's a tough The Haiti assassination
(08:39):
is a tough story, and that's not really what we
specialize in here. We do address it sometimes. But there's
a wonderful story you brought to my attention about copy
bearers in Argentina. By the way, I love Cape Barras.
I think they're beautiful animals, so cool, and there seems
to be like socialist with this information that we just had,
(09:00):
because in Argentina there was a gated community, a very rich, fancy,
boring group of people living in a gated community. They
were nor Delta, Yeah, that's the name of it. And
that land, it was the land of the capa Barus.
They were there before them. So now they're coming back.
Now they're taking their land back. And the I mean,
(09:23):
what I know is like there's a war between like
the parentists who support the capa Baras and they actually
on Twitter calling to like capparbarias like socialist icons like
Zevara kind of stuff, and this rich people who live
in this gated community. They wanted they tried to kill
(09:44):
these animals, but is illegal to kill these animals. So
capabarus one, it absolutely should be illegal to kill. Capybara
seems like the chillest animal possible. Anytime you see a
video of them, they're just kind of hanging out and
they're eating a little something and they go in the
water and they're just exit perfect TikTok animal. Totally cool. Yeah,
and somehow like there's absolutely no question if you're a
(10:06):
rich person and you're in a war with capybaras, you're
on the wrong side. The Capybaras are on the right side. Yeah.
I mean, they're very viral animals. And there's a video
actually that the capabara is drinking some matte if you
saw this, but I haven't seeing like some and the
capabara is just like enjoying his meal and like drinking.
(10:28):
I mean, once again, I think rich people are looking
worse and worse every day, and now they're fighting with
like the you can't you can't destroy something that is cute.
Cute is the most powerful thing. Right now, the capa
bara's sipping some mate, is smoking a cigarette, lounging. Now,
(10:50):
this is happening in the Piranha River, which we talked
about last week, the world's soybean Mega farm super Highway
UH down there in Argentina, which seems like it's the
Parana River. Keep an eye on it. You hear about
it first here on four from the south. But this
is where it's all going down. All the problems of
global UH, climate change, over exploitation of resources, soy beef,
(11:14):
it's all going down there in the Parana River in Argentina.
And the capa Baras have an answer, which is we're
going to hang out and take over and drink armante
and be chill. Oh yeah, guys, I once again, I
think this is maybe what we need here in the US.
It's like a cute animal telling us like stop global warming.
You know, it's like, what is the cutest animal in
(11:36):
the US. Well, I think we take them for granted,
but like the chipmunk and the squirrel are both very
cute and um, highly appealing. The prairie dogs really good, um,
and then like the hamster and stuff. I guess that's
sort of just a domesticated animal. But we have we
got out of The buffalo is great. There was a
good video a while ago of a bison walking down
the road in Yellowstone and it was like holding up
(11:57):
all the cars and everybody was like, yes, wait for
the buffalo. He he gets the rights. I think that.
Do you think that people in general are kind of
like I think a lot of us are agreeing that
animals are better than us, right absolutely. I feel like
the mood is like humans, we don't have a lot
of pride in ourselves as humans the way I think
we did in like the nineteenth century. I think we're
(12:17):
we know we're kind of bad, but I think you're right. Squirrels.
I think a number one of like the potentially leftist
animals waiting to make a revolution in this country. An,
I think hamsters are more of like corporate democrats. Yes,
in a way I didn't realize. I didn't realize that
Paronista meant kind of like socialist. I assume because of
a vida that paron would be like the rich people. Listen.
(12:40):
I mean parah is um is whole podcast series that
you can be in the left and the right, and
you can be in the parenthesis spectrum. It's just another world.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Once again, we
need to do an episode, especial episode trying to explain,
and we should bring an expert. We should bring an
argentinean uh fellow to explain. Is like the nuances of
(13:02):
baroness m because it is a mess. One of our
themes here is on the show is the the Latin
americanification of the United States. I was just in Las Vegas,
UH to see SummerSlam, the wrestling event, but I was
struck by one of the big stadiums there, the MGM
Grand Arena, sold out for two nights for a band
(13:24):
I've never heard of called Groupo fair May ranchera yah
Mexican Noortago kind of music. Talk to me, well, I
have to say, you send me that link. I've never
heard of them before, but I start, you know, connecting
the dots. And first, they're huge. They have like four
five millions of followers every every social media they managed
(13:48):
to like exploit at the highest level. They know what
they're doing. They definitely know what they're doing. Yeah, the
style on these dudes is pretty cool, like the flashy
shirts they have. It's sort of like silky easy pattern shirts.
They're big dudes. It's unclear to me how many guys
are in the band, but it seems like it's as
you mentioned, it's kind of like BTS, Like there's it
might be twenty guys, it might be ten guys. People
(14:11):
come and go. As far as I can tell as
a as a person who just learned about this and
the other day, there's no clear number of members to
group of group of firm. Yeah, this is high Speed
Red Chera And yeah, they're like bt S and they're
they're massive. And once again, it's those kind of things
that I think happening more and more lately. There's a
(14:31):
lot of things that are like, oh, these people are
really famous, and I have no idea like, yes, used
to be like everyone that was famous. It was kind
of like famous for everyone. Now you can be just
famous for a group of people and being billionaire. That's
absolutely true. Yes, you know, to be famous BTS I
kind of I heard of them. By the time I
(14:52):
had heard of them, they were already probably the most
famous band in the world. Then they had the McDonald's.
That seems like the next level transition when you have
a meal McDonald's. I went and tried it, the BTS meal.
I thought it was pretty good. They had a couple
of different sauces you can't usually get. Then the other
day I saw McDonald's. Somebody named Saweetie has a mule
and McDonald's again. The first time I've ever heard of
Saweetie is she is big enough to have a meal
(15:15):
at McDonald's. The meal sounded awesome. It's a big mac,
a bunch of nuggets, a huge sprite um and I
guess Sweetie is famous for eating really crazy and kind
of interesting foods. One thing she eats is oysters, and
she'll put the seasoning packet from some ramen on there,
which I thought was like a mind blowing innovation, really interesting.
(15:36):
So obviously she's a pretty culinary genius. But you know, yeah,
the first time I'm hearing of these people is they're
big enough to have a meal at McDonald's. That's nuts,
that's huge. So well, that's that's the world now. I mean,
in the couple of the next couple of years, we
got to see more and more famous people who are unknown. Yes,
that's that's that's the way things are right now. I
(16:10):
want to talk about someone who was really famous and this,
I mean it's hard to explain who is the guy.
I mean, once in a while, I'm going to bring
some characters just for you guys, and just to know
these are like famous characters in Latin America. They're they're
famous as or Dashian level. It makes a lot of sense,
what with the thing we were talking about. So this
(16:31):
guy died into those since sixteen, but he was like
the biggest star of Argentina for five years. His name
is Regardo the four and now he's like a meme legend,
a meme legend. Okay, this is it's good on the
show to be queuing us into the top memes going
on in Latin America. Yeah, we need to know this
(16:53):
information because once in a while you see a mem
and it's like, what's going on over there? And well,
now I can explain it to you. So there's this
guy who was he was super wealthy because his parents
were the owners of the huge, huge chocolate factory in
South America called Fort Fair for fair and like Felford
(17:16):
fel Forth, you're right, and by the way, chocolate chocolate millionaire.
That seems like one of the purest ways to be
really rich, right, Like it's probably the cap of bears.
Will will skip you live and I won't eat out
your house? Yeah, no, uh. And so he was super wealthy.
He was worse. He never tried to even i mean
(17:39):
tried to work at anything. He would just want to
be famous. So since he was a kid, well he
was gay. So his parents at the time they were
like very conservative that you know, the chocolate people are
very conservative. You know, chocolate people have such strict views
of sexuality. Absolutely, and so this this guy was trying
(18:00):
to hide it. But then he just decided to go
to Miami and tried to be famous in the US,
and of course he failed. He well, he's super buffed.
I mean he was super buffed. He was like full
of surgeries, have like fake hair. He was just such
a weird character. You can google him. He's a strong man.
He's a strong man because he hasn't you know what
he has that is helpful for becoming a celebrity. A
(18:22):
huge head. It appears his head is like enormous, huge head.
And this is kind of a person who's like, oh,
he worked out so much, he must be healthy. No,
he worked out in a healthy level, and he looks unhealthy.
You know, would be like a superbuff guy, but like
he looks super unhealthy at the same time. So this
he became a celebrity because he started his own reality
(18:45):
show on YouTube. When you Do was not even a
thing a Latin America because he was like the first YouTuber.
He was the first guy just famous for YouTube because
he started recording himself. He was a jerk with everyone.
He was like once again Paris Hilton Kardashian's you know,
that kind of lifestyle, but in a country that was
like in the toilet at the time, you know, the
economy was superbad. So he was just like the only
(19:08):
guy who was able to say I'm rich. Because he
was also like so weird and eccentric that it was
just like fantasy and he became the biggest star. He
had like some catchphrases like Miami. He just screamed Miami.
If you can make a claim on like if you're
the guy who screams Miami, that's you're gonna be rich.
(19:29):
You're gonna be rich. And then you have another one
he said like that. His mom was trying to like
it got the energy of the house with that fork. Uh.
I mean, he's just like insane character. So I recommend
to everyone listening to this show just do a deep
diving in rec out of the Ford. Now there's a
new podcast original Spotify also about his life. It's just
(19:53):
a sort of is it in English or Spanish? Is
in Spanish? But if you know any Spanish, this is
so much fun. It seems like a great way to
learn Spanish. Now I'm reading about him. He died in
kind of a weird way, like it seems like he
had a he had an injury and then somehow he
bled to death, like in the hospital or something. What
doesn't seem like what happens to a healthy man. He
had died of a heart attack following gastro intestinal bleeding.
(20:16):
I have like talents of surgeries, and he keeps like
having more surgeries. And he had a lot of back
pain because of the surgery because I think he like
tried to be high, you know, so they put like
some extension in his legs. Okay, there's there's a quality.
When you look at his photos, it does seem like, um,
he didn't quite land on what he wanted to look like,
(20:38):
and it's a little all over the map. You know,
it's neither natural. It doesn't appear natural, nor does it
appear like he had a really clear idea of what
he was going for. Well, I also like he well
he made it a couple of musicals like the Argentinian
Broadway called called about his own life. So he spent
(20:58):
a lot of money making musicals about his own life.
And uh, yep, he was just like a crazy character
that everyone loves. And now he's a meme that will
leave forever. Oh that's cool. He's so he's popular, he's
a beloved figure. He's yeah, I mean he's a beloved
feed for sure, in an ironic way, right right right,
I mean a goof but we like him. He screams Miami.
(21:21):
What more, all you need to tell me about the
guy is he's the guy who yells Miami. So now
the US has been introduced to this badness called regard
the four. I have some important news for our listeners.
By the way, this is our show for from the South.
We need stories from Latin America. We're we're pretty good
at finding them, but we would if you have some
stories you'd like to share with us. You can now
reach us by email for from the South in words,
(21:44):
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going on in Latin America. This is an ongoing effort
(22:06):
to understand and share with you. People are listeners who
are all inhabitants of the great Latin America that is
swallowing the earth we live in. It may as well
know about it. We made like that that was Ford
news or we did it? I think so. Yeah. We
had the the Haiti Uh assassination, which which Haiti is
(22:27):
they speak French there? Do we call that Latin America?
I think so, I think so. Well, the Columbian guys
were involved and the whole operation was based out of Miami.
That was one. Two was a copy bearers. Three was
our discovery of a group of fair mate and four
was the introduction of a new character, Ricardo Forton. Is
if fort or just Ricardo fort I think it's Regardo
(22:48):
fort beautiful name, Richard fort. Yes, sounds like one of
the wealthies families in the US. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Rick
fort Yeah. If you had lived here, he probably would
have a senator something. Yeah. But well, once again, we
did it, Steve, we did everything. Figure it out, We've
got it covered. We'll see you next week on four
from the South. Thank you guys, you next week by
(23:11):
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