August 23, 2024 • 10 mins
The conversation discusses the upcoming preseason game for the Minnesota Vikings and the performance of Sam Darnold.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Minnesota Vikings training camp is officially over and their last
preseason game is around the corner, where pretty much every
single starter is not going to play.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Why risk it.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is a game for those bubble players to make
one more final statement and for those guys that are
most likely not going to make the roster to make
a final statement as well, so that other teams that
might be in need of a position could sign them
to a contract and maybe they'll make that team before
(00:36):
the regular season starts. But today I want to talk
about Sam Donald, and there has been a trend with
Sam Donald all throughout the training camp. You know, some
days he looks spectacular, some days he looks like QB
one and it's obvious, and you know he's clearly better
(00:57):
than j J McCarthy, who's having a moment. Well, now
that JJ McCarthy is injured, there is a lot of
pressure on Sam Donald to deliver, not only for the
Minnesota Vikings but for himself because this is the make
it or break it year for Sam Donald. You know,
(01:21):
even before JJ McCarthy, it was a make it or
break it year for Sam Donald. But there's always an
insurance plan behind him. If you are the Minnesota Vikings organization.
And if you're Sam Donald as well, you know there's
always a guy behind you. And if you are really struggling,
but now there really isn't if he's struggling in a game,
(01:44):
are you really gonna throw out Jaren Hall or Nick Mullins. No,
your best chance is Sam Donald, even if he has
three interceptions.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Your best chance is.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
That Sam Donald finds a rhythm, gets hot, gets JJ
and Addison and Hopkinson and Aaron Jones involved.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It is all on Sam Donald. So he needs to
be healthy.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
But these training camp reports are so inconsistent because in
his last training camp practice, according to Judd zogad zol
Good of Score North, it says in today's practice, Judd
noted that it was a situational scrimmage and the defense
(02:33):
looked very good.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's a good sign, while the first team offense was a.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Little shakier, especially Sam Darnald, who he believes is still
processing the system. The final sentence doesn't intimidate me. Sam
Donald's still processing the system because Kirk Cousins took a
(02:59):
long time in both seasons with Kevin O'Connell to fully
process the system. I remember his first season with Kevin O'Connell.
It was around mid season to the second half of
the season where it seemed like kirk Cousins finally came
out of his show a little bit and started releasing
(03:21):
the ball on time, anticipating throws. He sort of became
a gun slinger. Heos and so hesitant. He just was
throwing the ball with confidence and was trusting the routes,
trusting the time, he trusted the coaches and receivers. But
at the beginning of the season he was a very
different quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So that doesn't really intimidating me.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I remember the second season like, well, if at
the end of the first season kirk Cousins was like this,
I would expect him to be like this at the
beginning of the second season, and he went back to
being the shy not as a gunslinger kirk Cousins and
eventually developed into that in his second season, but a
little sooner when the Minnesota Vikings got hot, kirk Cousins
(04:06):
was that guy again and then he got hurt. So
that doesn't surprise me or shock me that he's still
processing the system. But the inconsistencies of Sam Darnald are
what concerns me in the training camp because Sam Donald
(04:29):
is a very talented quarterback, but he always has these
throws throughout his career. Or you look at him and
it's like, how can you be so talented and yet
so stupid?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like what was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Going on in your mind when you attempted this throw?
What did you see from the defense when you made
this throw? Because there's a linebacker right there? How did
you process and read a defense and make this kind
(05:07):
of throw?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And Sam Donald is going to be consistent this season.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He's not a top five, top ten quarterback where those
guys are consistent, but you hope that he's a little
bit more consistent than he was with the Panthers, Jets
and forty nine ers. Not that he really had to
run with the forty nine ers because of the system
and the weapons that are around him. But as the
(05:34):
days continue, the weapons around Sam Donald are dropping off,
like Jinga pieces, Jordan Addison. We don't know if he's
going to even be available week one based on the
reports of his ankle spring and how long it's taken
him to come back.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Aaron Jones healthy now, but will he be in week two?
Right now?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You got Justin Jefferson healthy, you got Jalen, you got
Brandon Powell healthy.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Sam Darnold needs.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Every single offensive weapon the Minnesota Vikings can have to
have his most successful season. And I've been on a
record comparing Sam Darnald to Ryan Fitzpatrick, because Ryan Fitzpatrick
was a gunslinger, just go for it kind of guy.
(06:25):
And he found a rhythm and a hot streak with
the Buffalo Bills that gave him a massive constract extension
and then he, you know, fell off the face of
the earth again, and that was kind of his career.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He would get hot.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And then they would have this unbelievable run that he
even had a run with the Miami Dolphins at one point,
and then he would just get hot and just look
like one of the greatest quarterbacks. And it was Fitzmagic,
and you know, he had the nickname, he had the beard,
he had the look, and he was playing spectacular and
it was fun and it was exciting, and then for
(07:00):
five weeks he would just disappear off the face of
the planet and look like one of the bottom of
three quarterbacks in the league. And that's my fear and
expectation for Sam Darnold this season. Because of the quarterback
that he's been throughout his career, and because of the
talent that he clearly has.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Like the first throw.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
In the preseason game against the Las Vegas Raiders, the
ball that he threw to Jalen Naylor, There's a linebacker
in the middle of the field and it demanded perfect
touch to sail the ball over the linebacker into Jalen
Naylor's hands, And everybody looked at that throw and it
was like, Wow, that is an incredible pass. That is
(07:49):
why you're a top pick in the NFL draft because
you have that touch, that talent, that kind.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Of capability to make that pass.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then we didn't really see any bad throws in
his preseason debut, but they're coming, you know. We saw
them in training camp. We saw reports of them in
training camp. So I think the battle for Sam Donald
this season is going to be the consistency. Can he
(08:20):
keep the consistency of being an efficient and effective quarterback,
because that's how he's going to be successful this season.
He doesn't need to throw for four hundred yards every
single game. He needs to be efficient and effective. Can
he go eighteen for twenty four for one hundred and
(08:42):
eighty yards, two touchdowns in zero interceptions. That's what's going
to make Sam Donald a successful quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings,
and that's what's going to make the Minnesota Vikings offense successful.
I remember when Christian Ponter had his best year in
the NFL. It wasn't because he was an unbelievable quarterback.
(09:03):
He was up and he was down. There's the Cosmo
Kramer meme of you know him walking around with the
robe and he was super exciting and had the smile,
and then there's the Cosmo Kramer meme I've been going
like this, like what are you doing? And then it
was like Christioph Ponder through the first four weeks of
the season, Like Christopher Pond through the next four weeks
of the season, Christoph Pond through the next four weeks
(09:26):
of the season, Christoph Ponder through the last four.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Weeks of this season.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's a that's the quarterback that he was. And then
he couldn't even play the playoff game versus the Green
Bay Packers. But that's what Sam Darnold needs to avoid.
He needs to be consistent, efficient and effective, and he
has the talent to do so. But does he have
the decision making to do so, does he have the
(09:53):
decision making to understand? I just need to check it
down here and live him diet another down, lived a play,
another down.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So it'll be an interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
To watch throughout the regular season how Sam Donald progresses
as Minnesota Vikings QB won because as it stands right
now and as it stands probably in a few weeks,
there really isn't going to be an option for Sam
Donald to be QB two. He's the guy and the
(10:25):
Minnesota Vikings got to live and die with his arm.
Minnesota Vikings training camp is officially over and their last
preseason game is around the corner, where pretty much every
single starter is not going to play.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Why risk it.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is a game for those bubble players to make
one more final statement and for those guys that are
most likely not going to make the roster to make
a final statement as well, so that other teams that
might be in need of a position could sign them
to a contract and maybe they'll make that team before
(00:36):
the regular season starts. But today I want to talk
about Sam Donald, and there has been a trend with
Sam Donald all throughout the training camp. You know, some
days he looks spectacular, some days he looks like QB
one and it's obvious, and you know he's clearly better
(00:57):
than j J McCarthy, who's having a moment. Well, now
that JJ McCarthy is injured, there is a lot of
pressure on Sam Donald to deliver, not only for the
Minnesota Vikings but for himself because this is the make
it or break it year for Sam Donald. You know,
(01:21):
even before JJ McCarthy, it was a make it or
break it year for Sam Donald. But there's always an
insurance plan behind him. If you are the Minnesota Vikings organization.
And if you're Sam Donald as well, you know there's
always a guy behind you. And if you are really struggling,
but now there really isn't if he's struggling in a game,
(01:44):
are you really gonna throw out Jaren Hall or Nick Mullins. No,
your best chance is Sam Donald, even if he has
three interceptions.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Your best chance is.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
That Sam Donald finds a rhythm, gets hot, gets JJ
and Addison and Hopkinson and Aaron Jones involved.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It is all on Sam Donald. So he needs to
be healthy.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
But these training camp reports are so inconsistent because in
his last training camp practice, according to Judd zogad zol
Good of Score North, it says in today's practice, Judd
noted that it was a situational scrimmage and the defense
(02:33):
looked very good.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's a good sign, while the first team offense was a.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Little shakier, especially Sam Darnald, who he believes is still
processing the system. The final sentence doesn't intimidate me. Sam
Donald's still processing the system because Kirk Cousins took a
(02:59):
long time in both seasons with Kevin O'Connell to fully
process the system. I remember his first season with Kevin O'Connell.
It was around mid season to the second half of
the season where it seemed like kirk Cousins finally came
out of his show a little bit and started releasing
(03:21):
the ball on time, anticipating throws. He sort of became
a gun slinger. Heos and so hesitant. He just was
throwing the ball with confidence and was trusting the routes,
trusting the time, he trusted the coaches and receivers. But
at the beginning of the season he was a very
different quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So that doesn't really intimidating me.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I remember the second season like, well, if at
the end of the first season kirk Cousins was like this,
I would expect him to be like this at the
beginning of the second season, and he went back to
being the shy not as a gunslinger kirk Cousins and
eventually developed into that in his second season, but a
little sooner when the Minnesota Vikings got hot, kirk Cousins
(04:06):
was that guy again and then he got hurt. So
that doesn't surprise me or shock me that he's still
processing the system. But the inconsistencies of Sam Darnald are
what concerns me in the training camp because Sam Donald
(04:29):
is a very talented quarterback, but he always has these
throws throughout his career. Or you look at him and
it's like, how can you be so talented and yet
so stupid?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like what was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Going on in your mind when you attempted this throw?
What did you see from the defense when you made
this throw? Because there's a linebacker right there? How did
you process and read a defense and make this kind
(05:07):
of throw?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And Sam Donald is going to be consistent this season.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He's not a top five, top ten quarterback where those
guys are consistent, but you hope that he's a little
bit more consistent than he was with the Panthers, Jets
and forty nine ers. Not that he really had to
run with the forty nine ers because of the system
and the weapons that are around him. But as the
(05:34):
days continue, the weapons around Sam Donald are dropping off,
like Jinga pieces, Jordan Addison. We don't know if he's
going to even be available week one based on the
reports of his ankle spring and how long it's taken
him to come back.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Aaron Jones healthy now, but will he be in week two?
Right now?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You got Justin Jefferson healthy, you got Jalen, you got
Brandon Powell healthy.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Sam Darnold needs.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Every single offensive weapon the Minnesota Vikings can have to
have his most successful season. And I've been on a
record comparing Sam Darnald to Ryan Fitzpatrick, because Ryan Fitzpatrick
was a gunslinger, just go for it kind of guy.
(06:25):
And he found a rhythm and a hot streak with
the Buffalo Bills that gave him a massive constract extension
and then he, you know, fell off the face of
the earth again, and that was kind of his career.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He would get hot.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And then they would have this unbelievable run that he
even had a run with the Miami Dolphins at one point,
and then he would just get hot and just look
like one of the greatest quarterbacks. And it was Fitzmagic,
and you know, he had the nickname, he had the beard,
he had the look, and he was playing spectacular and
it was fun and it was exciting, and then for
(07:00):
five weeks he would just disappear off the face of
the planet and look like one of the bottom of
three quarterbacks in the league. And that's my fear and
expectation for Sam Darnold this season. Because of the quarterback
that he's been throughout his career, and because of the
talent that he clearly has.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Like the first throw.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
In the preseason game against the Las Vegas Raiders, the
ball that he threw to Jalen Naylor, There's a linebacker
in the middle of the field and it demanded perfect
touch to sail the ball over the linebacker into Jalen
Naylor's hands, And everybody looked at that throw and it
was like, Wow, that is an incredible pass. That is
(07:49):
why you're a top pick in the NFL draft because
you have that touch, that talent, that kind.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Of capability to make that pass.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then we didn't really see any bad throws in
his preseason debut, but they're coming, you know. We saw
them in training camp. We saw reports of them in
training camp. So I think the battle for Sam Donald
this season is going to be the consistency. Can he
(08:20):
keep the consistency of being an efficient and effective quarterback,
because that's how he's going to be successful this season.
He doesn't need to throw for four hundred yards every
single game. He needs to be efficient and effective. Can
he go eighteen for twenty four for one hundred and
(08:42):
eighty yards, two touchdowns in zero interceptions. That's what's going
to make Sam Donald a successful quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings,
and that's what's going to make the Minnesota Vikings offense successful.
I remember when Christian Ponter had his best year in
the NFL. It wasn't because he was an unbelievable quarterback.
(09:03):
He was up and he was down. There's the Cosmo
Kramer meme of you know him walking around with the
robe and he was super exciting and had the smile,
and then there's the Cosmo Kramer meme I've been going
like this, like what are you doing? And then it
was like Christioph Ponder through the first four weeks of
the season, Like Christopher Pond through the next four weeks
of the season, Christoph Pond through the next four weeks
(09:26):
of the season, Christoph Ponder through the last four.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Weeks of this season.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's a that's the quarterback that he was. And then
he couldn't even play the playoff game versus the Green
Bay Packers. But that's what Sam Darnold needs to avoid.
He needs to be consistent, efficient and effective, and he
has the talent to do so. But does he have
the decision making to do so, does he have the
(09:53):
decision making to understand? I just need to check it
down here and live him diet another down, lived a play,
another down.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So it'll be an interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
To watch throughout the regular season how Sam Donald progresses
as Minnesota Vikings QB won because as it stands right
now and as it stands probably in a few weeks,
there really isn't going to be an option for Sam
Donald to be QB two. He's the guy and the
(10:25):
Minnesota Vikings got to live and die with his arm.
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