December 16, 2025 • 57 mins
What actually changes when you understand the blueprint you were born with?
Why do certain patterns repeat? Why do some seasons feel heavy, and others open?
And can astrology really give clarity without taking away your free will?
In this episode, Radhi sits down with The AstroTwins, Ophira and Tali Edut, for a grounded, eye-opening conversation about astrology as a tool for self-understanding, timing, purpose, and relationships. They break down the basics in a way that finally makes sense — from the Sun, Moon, and Rising signs to the North and South Nodes, planetary cycles, and what a birth chart actually shows about your inner world.
The twins share how they discovered astrology in college, how being four minutes apart created subtle differences in their charts, and why no one has a “perfect” or “lucky” chart. They explain why astrology shouldn’t be treated as a rulebook, how to avoid becoming dependent on predictions, and why free will matters just as much as the stars.
They also explore love and compatibility, what Mercury retrograde is actually about, and why 2026 will bring a major collective reset as Saturn and Neptune meet at zero degrees Aries.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- What your birth chart reveals beyond your zodiac sign
- The role of your Sun, Moon, and Rising — and which one people feel the most
- How the North & South Nodes point to purpose, patterns, and growth
- Why timing matters: Jupiter return, Saturn return, retrogrades, and yearly cycles
- How to use astrology without letting it control your decisions
- What really makes two people compatible (and why “hard” relationships can be meaningful)
- The difference between Western and Vedic astrology
- What the AstroTwins predict for 2026 — and why it’s a year of new beginnings
This episode is a clear, refreshing reminder that astrology isn’t about telling you who you are — it’s about helping you understand yourself better. When you know the patterns, the timing, and the possibilities, you can make choices with more confidence, clarity, and intention.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In twenty twenty six, something that has not happened in
thousands of years is happening, which is sadder in the
planet of structure and Neptune, which is the planet of dreams.
They are meeting at zero degrees areas on February twentieth,
the very first degree of the zodiac. So it's almost
like this great reason beginning happening. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Today, we've got the incredible AstroTwins joining me Ofira and
tally Edits. They are twin astrologers, best selling authors, and
founders of Astro Style. They've helped millions of people use
astrology as a tool for understanding themselves, their purpose, and
their relationships.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
But we measure mercury is actually going backwards to the
degrees that we count it. The things that mercury rules,
which are technology, transportation, communication, will go backwards as well.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm Radi w Kiah and on my podcast A Really
Good Cry, we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing
a space for raw, unfielded conversations that celebrate vulnerability, allow
you to tune in, to learn, connect and find comfort together.
Thank you both so much for being here. I am
honestly so excited to speak to you. I read through
(01:10):
your book and honestly, I have so many questions that
I want to ask you.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But first, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So excited to be here too.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So my first question is actually unrelated to astrology, and
it's like, what is it like being twins?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean, we don't know anything else. It's like we say,
it's like being being like born married. Anyways, yea, the
built in best friend partnership. I know we've shared a
bank account, a piggy bank. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Have you ever pretended to be one another a couple times? Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Nice classes. Yes, never switched boyfriends. Everyone always asks that, But.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That's a nice line to draw, right.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Wefinitely draw the line there, although we've been asked.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, I do think that there's something as soon as
I think about twins, I do think of something that
feels very spiritual and something that feels very connected. Obviously,
And did you find from a young age that you
guys had a different connection to how other people would
describe their sibling relationship?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
For sure, we used we had our own language, even
remember a little bit of it. It's like we Yeah,
I think it's just very lucky. You always have someone
who's I mean, sometimes when you're going through something and
you are not wanting to be in that phase like
you know, adolescence of course, like oh there's a mirror
all the time, right, but it makes you very self aware. Yeah,
(02:34):
I bet. Basically, yeah, I'd always someone to process stuff with.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And so that's been good, so lovely.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I know I have a sister, not twins, but definitely
appreciate sibling relationships, and especially when you get older and older,
you feel like you value them so much more. How
did you both get into astrology? Like, how did that
come about? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It was it was an accident. My college boyfriend many
years ago gave me a birth chart as a gift
for my twenty first game US A birth chart four
minutes apart. Was only the tiniest difference, but not enough
to matter there. So yeah, I mean we had been
kind of interested in, oh we're Sagittarius. That does sound
(03:20):
like us, but then the full birth chart was like
whoa this is? And we discovered because the birth chart
is a map of where every single planet is when
you're born. Most people only know where the sun was
in the zodiac.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay, but that where Sagittarius yes, yeah, people say what's
your sign, like where was the sun positioned in the sky?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's in relation to the Earth, but the moon is
you know, only someone born in the same minute, in
the same time zone as you will share the exact chart.
Even we four minutes a part of a slightly different
chart as twins. Very very subtle, but it shows up
in the kinds of friends we pick the guys that
we dated, and so that is actually helpful, I guess,
(04:06):
you know. It was really shocking how descriptive. It was
like a thirty page booklet, and I was like, this
is just way too uncanny to be an accident. So
we just learned how to do our friends and yeah,
it was just was like, okay, things do come with instructions.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
What do you know and what are some of the
things that you feel people don't really know that they
can actually be that can be revealed to them through
learning the astrology.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I think one of the biggest things is your core
destiny and purpose. Using the north and south nodes, they're
called Rahu and ke To in Vedic or cabalistic astrology,
looks at them. There's two points in the chart that
are based on where the eclipses were happening essentially closest
(04:54):
to your time of birth, and they're in opposite signs,
the lunar nodes, and you know they change every eighteen months.
So you kind of come in with the soul group.
You can see what your comfort zone is and what
your you know, your destiny is karmic growth area.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, so it's a really great thing to help if
someone feels lost in their life or if they feel
like they don't know what that purpose is.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Those two things can many.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
A tendencies that might you know, in our example, we
have a cancer south note, so we kind of default
into being you know, domestic. We like to you know,
be in our bubbles, creating, and we're always surrounded by
you've done a lot of pro women work. Cancer is
the sign of women. But then our north note is Capricorns.
(05:41):
We get pushed to taking that out into the business world,
which is what Capricorn is about. So knowing that that's
been a lot of women leaders. So sometimes you'll be
struggling and you don't know if it's because you're doing
the wrong thing or because you're supposed to learn something.
Chart can show you are you struggling because Oh, you
(06:01):
need to like do a little more of this, little
less of that. And it's been a really good dining system.
We are. Nobody has a perfect chart, no one has
a lucky chart. Necessarily. There are things you can see
where you'll be challenged more. But I feel like our
souls maybe sign up for that. Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And you mentioned badich astrology. That's the only kind of
astrology that I grew up knowing. I don't really know much,
but my mom would always follow certain things to do
with it. I had my birth chat down when I
was a baby, and she always reads it to me, like.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Every year to remind me.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, she does do that, And actually it was weirdly accurate.
It spoke about that I was going to move abroad.
It spoke about me even having a job where I
would be watched by a lot of people, lots of
lots of interesting things, which when I was younger, I
was like, there's no way I'm moving abroad.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I love where I live. I'm never going to go.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And that was something I never wanted to do, but
it ended up happening. One of the main differences between
the two West and Western astrology and Vada gastrology.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, in Western astrology, it's more based on geometry, not
the constellations. The constellations have shifted about twenty four degrees.
But in Vedic it actually the signs have you know
when you read those articles that come out every so often,
like your zodiacs on is different. It's actually true in
(07:24):
Vedic astrology because the constellations have moved and it follows that,
whereas Western astrology follows the seasons. The first you know,
first day of spring starts the zodiac zero degrees arees.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So wow, and then you said that you're mentioning that
things can change every eighteen months or something. So whatever
you're born with, so that doesn't just stay as a.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well it does. It's like what your birth chart is
is basically a selfie of the sky overhead, your mone
of birth when you see the wheels, what you're looking
at is imagine, I always say, imagine yourself lying on
a blanket looking up at the stars at your moment
of birth and just freeze framing what you saw overhead,
(08:07):
or looking with the telescope and what you see in
the telescope ring the arrangement the pattern of the planets
around where you are on Earth at your moment of
birth is what our chart is, the Western chart.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That's a really nice way of putting it.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I just imagine myself as a baby.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And they all move through the zodiac at different speeds.
So the Sun stays in a sign for thirty days,
the moon two and a half days, the ascendant two hours,
Mercury three weeks, and the further out you go from
the Sun, the like Pluto will stay and assign for
twelve to thirty years. So you'll share a lot of
(08:49):
generational The generations tend to have similar groupings, Like all
the millennials have a lot of the outer planets in Capricorn,
this like heavy burden of responsibility and you know, girl
bossing to create the sun or whatever you have. The
boomers have a lot of Leo and cancers of the
(09:11):
family duty and all the kind of what's the shadows
side of Leo of being sort of self involved that
they're accused of that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
So, yeah, this is so fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Okay, tell me more about the planets because obviously we're talking,
so is everything based around different planets and what do
different planet If you could pick a few of the
planets that really create the most impact.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, I'm glad you asked that because we have spent
so much time trying to figure out how to explain this.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay, great, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We even have a code of course we do once
a year called become your Own Astrologer, and we talk
about it with the movie metaphors. So we talk about
the planets being like the actors in the movie of
your life, like your soul I believe, picks the exact
moment to be born, so it gets this cosmic with
all the strengths and challenges and opportunities to evolve. So
(10:05):
the planets are like the actors the movie of your Life.
The Sun is the main character, so we're Sagittarius. Our
main character is going to have the traits of that.
And then the zodiac signs that they're in are like
the roles they're playing, the costumes they're wearing, that sort
of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Wow, and can astrology tell someone like what detail can
astrology go into?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I know you said, yeah, very specific, Yeah, especially the moon.
So we really started getting obsessed when we learned that
we had a moon in Scorpio, which explained so the
moon is if the sun is the main character, the
moon is like the private backstage you know, best supporting, yeah,
(10:46):
or like the Ma Mager kind of of your chart,
like do this, do more of this? You know, only
the people who know you closely will really know your
moon sign, but it has so much influence over you. Yeah,
the moon, and I think more and more is people
become more comfortable talking about their feelings and trauma and
(11:07):
attachment syles. Our moon signs are kind of showing up
more and more. But Moon and Scorpio for us was like, whoa, yeah,
I do have these like deep feelings that I don't
want every I'm not just as Sagittarius wild child, you know.
And so that and then we actually have Mercury which
is communication, Venus which is love, and creativity in Mars
(11:30):
which is your drive, and Scorpio too. So that was
what when I read that, I was like, oh my god,
I wonder we want to solve every mystery people tick.
So yeah, that's what happens. As people see their charts.
They discover these dimensions themselves that don't always go neatly together,
and we divide it between the inner planets, the personal planets,
(11:51):
and the outer planets. So that's so easier grouping to
think of it, the inner planets Mercury, so the Sun
and Moon we call the planets in astrology Mercury, Venus,
and Mars. They move pretty quickly through the zodiac, so
they influence the way you would deal with people. When
someone wants to love reading, we look at that or
day life. But then the outer planets when you're looking
(12:13):
at your bigger purpose. You know, Jupiter will show where
you're lucky, and every twelve years, Jupiter will return to
where it was when you're born. And you have this,
you may have moved here on one of your Jupiter returns.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yes, I've had about Jupiter time. I definitely I was
going through that phase when I was moving.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Oh of course, there you go. See. And then Saturn
the Saturn return. Saturn takes twenty nine and a half
years to go through all the signs and return to
where it was when you were born. So around just
before thirty people kind of go through this right of
passage where you're like, Okay, I'm going to be an
adult now I'm going to take this on and to
(12:52):
explain that. So your chart never changes. But where astrologers
become oracles is we do what's called a by wheel,
So you wrap a second chart around your birth chart,
and it's almost like the ticking clock moving, so you
can see the planet's moving and activating parts of your
chart as they move, so you'll have cycles and phases
(13:16):
where certain things will happen. You can also do that
with a couple or a business partner. You can take
one chart and another layer them and see where they activate,
and you can combine the two charts. One of our
books is called Super Couple, where every relationship has a
third chart that's a blend of the two as well.
So it's endlessly fascinating.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And if people come to you with specific questions, Okay,
let's say someone gives you their talk, can you do
everything from know whether they're going to get a job,
to know when they're going to die, to like what
if you wanted to?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Could you know you wanted to?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You might be able to predict that. But I don't
think anyone not predict is what I like to say.
Like think of it as like your life is like
a long highway and there's entrances and exits, so something
could happen, but I don't. I think that we have
free will and our souls have some decisions, so don't
(14:14):
I don't ever like to predict a death, Like what
good is it going to do? You tell someone that
you know? People want to know. Some people will do it,
and some people will you know. But I think, okay,
if someone wanted to change jobs, we could definitely look
and be like next year is a much more favorable
cycle between these months, and it gives people validation and relief.
(14:37):
Often they're already thinking that way and oh good, I
didn't want to do that till March. You just made
me feel okay about making this decision.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So I find most people come to you when they've
got a problem or issue or worry or can should
people be getting their charts to ride regularly?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I think people come to us for two reasons. One
is if they just want to know their basic cosmic blueprint,
never had their birth chart done. They want to know
who am I according to the stars, what's here for me?
And then another way is you know, timing of a
crossroads or a decision or planning to help. We like
(15:15):
to help people with planning or oh, someone came back
into your life from your past, what's going on? How
should you handle it? It's usually is something that they're like, Okay,
I can't really figure this one out on my own.
Maybe it would be good to get a little guy almost.
I mean, you could literally work with an astrologer every
week basically.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Right, Yeah, if some people really do that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
We have some clients that we clients, businesses, teams that
we died regularly, but we try to give people some
of the tools to figure that out themselves too.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And you mentioned free will.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I would love to know, because I think that's always
the debate where what if I end up being told
all these things about my astrology and then I'm waiting
for them to happen, and I'm I have a friend who, oh,
you're going to meet your partner is going to be
with the name like the big first that is going
to be Ja.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Let's just say.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And then every person that she meets with the letter
J and she's like, face might be oh god, yeah,
she is definitely him. They said it was gonna be Ja,
they said it's gonna have dark hair. Absolutely, this is
my guy. And so I guess my question is how
does one take on astrology without it becoming something that
they are too dependent on and molding their life towards it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Absolutely. We like to say we advise using astrology as
a tool, not a rule. Nobody knows that. The idea
of learning your chart and learning how it works is
to expand your consciousness, and as you expand your consciousness,
you gain free will. I make the metaphor of like,
say you get a new phone, you take it out
(16:53):
of the box, you don't really know how to use
all the features. As you learn how it's operating system works,
you gain more ability to do things with that phone.
But you don't just go phone, tell me how to
live my life. So I think that's a misuse of astrology. Yes,
we really discourage people from being exactly we'll see in
a year. But yeah, you don't want to have an
(17:15):
astrologer and be dependent, because then you're not doing the
work the stars mean. For I think the planets and
stars wants to co create our lives with them, not
just be like, show me what to do. I'll be
hiding for three weeks. Mercury's Red Year. I met my
husband a friend of ours who's psychic. She was like,
I see an aries coming for you, surrounded by boxes.
(17:38):
So I was like, oh my god, and so I
met a guy, an Aries, guy who I thought was cute.
He was moving and you know, but the book says
boxes boxes. And then I met a guy at my
yoga class and we went out and he was in construction,
and then I was like, oh my god, screw, this
is not going to happen. And I just was like
I went to Burning Man that year. I was like,
(18:00):
I'm just gonna have fun. And then I get there
and this guy is like building a geodesic dome and
water filtration for our camp and I was like, what
sign are you? It's like I'm an Aries. I was like, no,
tally no. But then I married him for seventeen years. Oh,
I was like just box. There was some boat boxes obvious,
(18:21):
but I'm just saying, like, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Maybe you picked your boxes right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Too, chee, but it was. Yeah, it was kind of
like a universal joke with you and you get too
attached to something too, It's like, no.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, how do you you know?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I think one thing that's really difficult for people when
it comes to choosing an astrologer or trusting in an
astrologer is knowing whether they are for real.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Like I think that's.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Really difficult, and is there a way for people to
to tell it?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Are there like signs?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Because you know, I think whenever I think of my
birth chart, I think of it is something that I
really have to treasure up because someone can find out
so much information just by having your time of birth
and the day that you were born, and it's for me.
I always think of it as such protected information that
I would want to give to someone that I really
trust or that have the qualifications for it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
How can people decide?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I think this brings us back to neuroscience and our
understanding of intuition. Her friend Haifa always talks about how
she reminded me recently that ninety five percent of our
decisions are made with our subconscious, which is just pattern recognitions.
So a good astrologer will make you actually feel calmer,
(19:41):
not afraid. Now, maybe the patterns that your brain is
wired for are causing you to fear changes that would
be positive for you. So you want to be self
aware enough to know. Do I feel a little scared
because I know I need to change, or because this
feels wrong. I feel like maybe this person is scaring
me so they can take advantage of me. And that
(20:03):
kind of thing. So there's different kinds of discomfort, but
the discomfort you feel, if any, with an astrologer, should
be the kind that's pushing you to make growth that
you needed, you know you need to do. It's like
get recommendations too, I would say, like if and also
you can watch them for a while on social media,
(20:25):
make sure they have a presence and then you can
feel that and see the kind of advice they give.
Does it resonate with you? I mean not all astrologers
are on social media. Some are some really great astrologers
who just undercover, right, are like on their landline. Yeah,
no one knows you better than you know yourself. That
(20:46):
maybe an astrologer can see something that you can't, because
human beings are our own biggest blind spots. But if
it feels wrong, just press pause on the readings, be like,
you know what, I don't know if that's going to
resonate with me. Look, let's move to and new to
unhect some people like people have come to us with
like you know, nostrologers only I was never going to
(21:07):
get married and that's so irresponsible. Oh yeah, and no
one knows that that's the subject of free will. It's
your question before in any moment. Some I've had a
client who was like, where is my man? Am I
going to get my you know? And I was like,
are you going to be the space? Are you going
to be the clearing the space that can attract ready
(21:29):
to Yeah? What what do you think a relationship will
provide in your life? And we had to unpack that
a little using her chart and from there it's like, oh,
she didn't really want a relationship, is what we.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Discovered looking at her.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, I thought she was supposed of a certain type,
just wanted someone to go out with and you know,
and then and she had to just give herself permission
to want that.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
If someone if you read someone's chot and it does
say they may not be able to have children or
they may not get married, is that something you go
saying that something that can be changed based on the
way that.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I I don't think that there's any determinists act like that.
I did.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I've had I had I had came in.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
That was actually my who's my physical therapist and who
would just talk about astrology. So he brought his partner
in and they were really trying to have a baby,
and she was about to give up on her last
IVF and I was like Jupiter, Jupiter the lucky plant
was about to go into her fifth house of fertility
for yours, like give it one more try, And then
(22:34):
I met their baby. I'm getting chills literally like a
year later and we did a little reading, but like
it's worth I try to look for opportunities. I don't know,
I think we both try to look for opportunities cycles
for people or what blocks. Like you can look at
where Saturn might be her Neptune where you're diluting yourself
Pluto where you're projecting and being unconscious, like I know
(22:56):
you talk about this a lot in your podcast, Like
we can get it out of our own ways. Personal
responsibility be changing the things that you eat, and that's
something and you can see when would be a good
time to do that. Especially I love that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I love that you can, like you said, oh, there
was an opportunistic moment that she would be most likely
to have success.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
And I think that's.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
The one the one way that I really appreciate, not
one way I love astrology, but the one way that
makes the most sense to me, where it's not telling
you should or shouldn't do something. What it's telling you
is these are actually the perfect way or the ideal
moments for you to do something. So, whether it's your job,
whether it's getting pregnant. And then what you said about eating,
It's like, yeah, of course, even if your chart says
(23:40):
you could get pregnant in this time, it's like, but
how am I preparing myself for that movement? This is
the opportunity moment, but you have to work for that
opportunity to exactly. So.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Imagine you won the lottery and they came and knocked
on your door to tell you were a multi millionaire.
If you didn't answer the door, they'd go to the
next house. Planitary cycles are like I like, I think
taking a quantum view of astrology is good at any moment.
Infinite possibilities exist for each of us, but how can
(24:09):
we access those points? The chart can help you tune
yourself for anything that you want.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Wow, you have to be willing, yes, And I love
what you said about personal responsibility. I think that's what
sometimes you go to an astrology to just surrender and
be like you just tell me what to do, tell
me what's going to happen in my life because I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I basically don't want to participate.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But you have to be an active participant to your
life if you want these things to always happen.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Someone just technically we were having some scheduling trouble with
her reading, and she wanted me to just do like
a voice recorded thing for her, and I was like, okay,
and then I started. I was like, no, no, no,
it has to be a conversation. We have to co
create together, and so we wound up rescheduling it. I
was like, no, that's not you don't want this. The
era we're in now in the world is about being involved.
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Like it's interesting with AI. It's almost like people are
being you know, oh, I don't have to deal with
the work. But as humans, I think we fundamentally want
to build the muscle by engaging. We don't want a
robot to come and wipe every counter. I mean some
people might I like wiping my counters down.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, But also the energetic exchange that you get from
human interaction. Even with your astrologists, I feel like it's
so important for them to not just read a chart.
They're feeling your energy. Like there's so much to that
interaction as well. Exactly in your bog you speak about
I think it's in the astrology advantage. You talk about
these archetypes. I would love for you to go into
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those and explain how they were.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Absolutely so. Over the years, we built a business out
of astrology, and more and more people were starting to
enter spiritual business practices, and we realized we had gained
a second set of skills, which is how to create
a successful spiritual brand that reached millions of people every
n month, and that became our full time job. So
(26:03):
we for the last decade have been teaching people, call
them astropreneurs, have been teaching them, yeah, how to use
their chart. But we realized that we needed to give
them a little bit of a shorthand because thinking about
building a business and learning astrology is a lot for
your brain at once, so we lead into a short cut.
The twelve zodiac signs are divided into four elements via earth, air,
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and water, and also three what are called qualities which
have these fancy astro jargon he names cardinal, fixed, and mutable.
So we renamed those three types innovator, authority, and maven,
and we have a whole system and process for making
decisions people. I think the average adult makes thirty eight
(26:48):
thousand decisions a day. It's probably more so that came out,
I know, a couple thousand about food alone. Maybe more
for you, yeah yeah, but I mean definitely more for
me because I'm picky. But yeah, So we need to
tap into the tools without having to memorize the birth chart.
So we used it. We saw people like someone even
(27:08):
sold their company using it. So now we teach teach
it regularly and we have this book. It's basically a
short you know, as complex as it is, as we're
trying to explain the sun and moon and all the planets,
it's like this is if you could put your entire
chart in a blender and just come up with a
simple archetype to use everything. That is what that does.
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So even though for example, we're Sagittarius, which is a
fire sign, the majority of the planets in our chart
are water, and the majority of them are cardinal signs,
which are the ones that start every season, the one
we call innovators. So we are. So we came up
with a way for people to do that. We have
to do yours. I know, the link for people to
(27:53):
go do the quiz for free and oh you use
your time dating place of birth. So it's like the
modern personality has mashed up with astrology. But you don't
have to answer one hundred questions. You just need your
birth data, time date, and place and it'll tell you
what you are. And it's really uncanny. I'm doing a
lot of work with like women and the C suite
women leaders and helping them, you know, just not waste
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all their time doubting themselves.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Wow. Yeah, oh, I definitely want to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's yeah, oh yeah, I would love to do that
for you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
You write a book of predictions every year. I got mine.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, guys, I'm so excited to read this. I'm going
on a paint off to this. I'm going to take
it with me. My Leo twenty twenty six Daily Harscope
plan Now, so this is the planet what I can
write in as well.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah. It has calendar pages for every day and then
the little tabs in the back are month by month.
The front part is it has your theme for the year,
your top five things that you really need to focus
on when all the planets are going to be in Leo,
we gave the year of theme. Actually every year we
do this. Twenty twenty six is the year of the
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Unbridled Spirit.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Oh, tell me more about that.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I was about talking about all the Yeah, we called
it that because well, twenty twenty five is the year
of the divine pendulum. Because what was happening this year
is those outer planets, the ones that are Jupiter, Saturn
to Pluto. They they've been swinging back and forth between
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two signs, which is very unusual. So they sort of
darted into these new, more young, more active signs and
then these after long periods of time up to fifteen
years for Neptune in these watery in sort of traditional
energies and people. That's kind of why twenty twenty five
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has spent such a disruptive year.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Did it make did all the things that happened in
this year and how heavy it was, and it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
It was a nine year numerology, which is the end
of a ten year cycle, so it was about ending,
shedding skin transform I mean two thousand and one was
a snake year. Twenty thirteen yeah, so it's a lot
of upheaval and chaos. But y, yeah, twenty in twenty
twenty six, something that has not happened in thousands of
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years is happening, which is sadder in the planet of
structure and Neptune, which is the planet of dreams. So
Saturn creates boundaries, Neptune dissolves. Oh, Saturn's about reality, Neptune's
about dreams and fantasy. They are meeting at zero degrees
aries on February twentieth, the very first degree of the zodiac.
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So it's almost like this great really happening.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, is that on a specific day, February twentieth, And
every thing not yet's in the book We write about
it extensively for every sign what to expect, but yeah,
every sign's going to kind of have this internal reset
for themselves.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And yeah, with for Leos, it's around fame and creativity
and you know, just being more out in the world.
Actually twenty I know, I see what's gonna happen more world. Yeah,
I mean exactly. Next year is actually a really good
year for Leo's because Jupiter is entering your sign is
the year on June thirty. Yeah, like just again new
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twelve year cycle, being more public, more out in the public.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Oh interesting, Yeah, see if that's a good thing or
about the.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yearly don't feel like it now, but yeah, that's zero.
It's like it's also a one year which is new energy,
and it's the year the fire Horse starting February seventeenth
with an eclipse.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Some eclipses coming up.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
So it's like a lot of forward moving Maverick energy,
you know, like maybe no guard rails, but like I
think just a feeling of like we are human spiritual
beings having a human experience that we're all going to
kind of remember that too. Like there's this feeling in
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twenty twenty five for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Being like stuck bit heavy.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah yeah, and like there's a way of like this
freedom that's.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Come backness of new energy. I love new beginnings.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh, I know in our in our tradition, there are
so many festivals and so many spiritual moments where it's
like Okay, time to research, time to get back.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
To your practices, and there's so many of them. I
really look forward to that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Okay, great, and now I have a date where I'm
going to restart this and I'm gonna have a.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Date with start this.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
People want, though, they want hope, and they want a
fresh start. Yes, that's important to it is that's the
only thing that motivates people. I forgot the book I
was reading that's by like a Harvard researcher who's saying that,
like the number one thing is a fresh start. If
people don't think that they're going to have one, they
just lose hopes.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yes, okay, cool, twenty twenty six ers not people.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, you spoke about someone said mercury retrograde. And I
had a few questions on this that even my community asked,
what is mercury retrograde? And what should one be doing
during that time or not doing or not doing exactly?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So, three or four times a year, mercury passes the
Earth in its orbit. And have you ever been in
a car where you're passing another one that's going at
a different speed and one appears to be going backwards. Yes, so,
because the planets move at different speeds, it's this optical illusion.
But we measure the planet's motion from our vantage point
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on Earth, so to look like through that magic telescope,
it'll look like mercury is actually going backwards through the
degrees that we count it as we're passing. So the
things that mercury rules, which are technology, transportation, communication will
go backwards as well. Every planet goes retrograde to at
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a certain point, but Mercury, being the one that's closest
to the Sun that influences our day to day communications,
really seems to affect us a lot. Venus two goes
retrograde every eighteen months or six weeks, so we have
that in twenty twenty six. It's kind of like all
the you know, it's a time to focus on reactivities,
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like if you want to, I mean, I think our
society so go, go go that retrogrades have become unlucky
because they sort of force us to take a time out.
But if you can plan ahead, which now you can
because we tell you all the dates of the Mercury
retrograde in the book, if you plan ahead, you can say,
you know, I'm taking these three weeks to go a
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little slower. I know things are going to come that
I'm going to need to review or reconsider, rewind and
if you look at it that way, or reconnect to
people from your past that you want in your life.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You know, I know, I always see these funny memes that'
psych it's mercy your retrograde. You're not supposed to get
back with your eggs erectly exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Oh and it happens. Yeah, up, people from your past
will definitely really and you know it's it can sub
travel sometimes it coincides with the holidays and we'll see
things at airports delays and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
So that is anything people should not do, Like should
they avoid starting new things.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Or I think it's not the best time to launch, Okay,
so if you can help it or do like a
soft launch. It's like bugs and tweet, you know, like
you can't just shut your entire life down for three
and a half weeks. But definitely like see if you
can slow down or delay or just if you have
to sign a contract, really have it reviewed, read the
fine print. Just make sure that you triple check everything. Yeah,
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don't rush into things.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay, it's the time to slow down. Yeah, we'll present
and obseepans.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And you know, if you have a project that isn't finished,
use it as like a quarterly review, finishing up. Oh,
there's probably emails to return. Yeah. We were born Yeah,
we were born with mercury retrograde. And I think it
makes us good writers and editors. You know a lot
of people were who are tend to be or like
(36:01):
leave me alone in my little cave, right right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Wow, it's so interesting. Okay, I want to switch up
to love and horoscopes.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Okay, let's say someone gets their chart done or two
people do and it says that they are really compatible
or absolutely not compatible. What should people be doing from
that moment? Like is it is it something that they
can adapt and change? And can that become untrue if it's.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I feel it's it's just accepting, Like I don't know.
It's like I don't know if it is like totally well,
there are things that are like well that might be
challenging for the time of view, but I don't think
it's written in stone that just because your venuses are
in a nice you know, maybe you'll have a great
honeymoon period and romance or but like every relationship will
(36:51):
hit a point. Yeah, Like easy relationships aren't always the best.
They can get boring. I like, I couldn't do my
husband's chart when I met him because there was no
Wi Fi signal. Then it burning and I was like,
you're an aries, but where's your moon? Where's your Mars
venus and then like I finally got out of there,
(37:13):
and I was like, oh, good moon sign opposite moon.
But I was like, I have Venus and Mars and
scorpio water signs. He is his Venus and Mars and
air signs. And I always knew that that was just
going to be a little bit tricky really and it
and it proved to be. But I have no regrets
(37:34):
about being married for the time that we were, which
was seventeen years, you know, So it's differences, like but
it was that he did get in the way at
the end. It didn't like to go to the same
kind of like concerts and shows. But his sort of
airy objectiveness and your watery emotional intelligence can really come
together nicely. I learned so much, Like I've grown so
(37:57):
much from the relationship. I would never change it. But ultimately,
like it's like, do you want a relationship that's just
like comfortable, like okay, someone to just relax around, or
do you want someone who's going to challenge you to grow?
And sometimes a hard relationship is actually the best one
because you do learn things about yourself that you wouldn't
if you just like exactly you know, like I've I
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had never It was like it was the best challenge
in a lot of ways because I got in touch
with parts of myself that I wouldn't have. And I
think that we choose our relationships with our hearts, with
our souls, with something else. But the astrology chart is
a tool for knowing how to navigate it and it
might last for seventeen years or seven months or seven minutes.
(38:43):
But like everything that, I mean, my view and probably
yours too, is that hers because we're twins in my brain.
Everyone else, sorry, this is a peril of being a twin. Yeah,
don't always agree, but I think every relationship comes along
(39:05):
for a reason, and that we're not just here to
have the perfect life. We're here to grow and evolve.
And sometimes it's the friction and the differences and difficult charts,
you know, that can be the lessons. And then you know,
if you have these incompatible compare and contrast charts, like
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I said, you can also do your combined chart and
find the sign and the chart of your relationships, so
which can be completely different, like we did a yeah
if our website for that is supercouple dot com. There's
a calculator that'll tell you. Oh cool, yeah, because you
look at like, for example, like Justin Bieber, Justin and
(39:47):
Hailey Bieber. He's a Pisces, she's a Sagittarius. You would
never see them, you know, matched up, but together they
become a Capricorn, which is serious and parents and church
and all things that they did. Like alone they were wild,
which was like their signs, but together they become very
like yeah, yeah, so you can do that with anyone,
(40:09):
you know, you being a Leo and shaping a Virgo
like your one sign of part so one of you
is gonna win the coin toss. You'll have to see
if your relationship is Leo or a Virgo. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I know what it is. Does that mean he's the
more dominant? Oh not really.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Well, it's just when you guys are together. If we
are to take the midpoint of your birthdays, wherever it
is on the calendar, will either be in the Leo
or the Virgo zone. Just so yeah, I would, Yeah,
could go either way because are very Virgo spiritual together,
but also very Leo like glamour and fame together.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
So yeah, I didn't even know Leo is glamor and
fame it is.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yes, see fancy. One question that I had was, you know,
I have friends who would say, oh, I love Leo women,
but I do not get along with Leo man. Right,
different male and female versions of horoscopes. People seem to
have different interactions with them. So are there a big
(41:13):
difference between the male version and the female version of
these horoscopes?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
There can be, Yeah, I think in the way that
the trait, like if you lean into being classically feminine
or classically masculine, then there can be obnoxiousness on both sides.
You know, for sure. It's such an interesting time because
that used to be very much part of how astrologers wrote,
and now with gender being so much more fluid and
(41:39):
redefined by people like, it's a really interesting time to
see how astrology matches with that. Yeah, but it does
still show up. Actually, our first horoscope writing job was
for teen People magazine and daily Horoscopes His and Hers
seven days a week. I was like, talk about boot camp.
It was like, oh my god, I'm not going any where.
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I'd meet friends at eleven pm. I'm an Aquarius. I've
got two more signs to go. I'll be right out.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Oh but it's good like, how long did you write
for them?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
For? Ye? For Yeah, they went out of business.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, did you do you think that people should like
if they had to know the basic what are the
basics you recommend people know about their chart? Like would
it just be their son they're rising the big.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Three years, it's called definitely the sun, moon and rising,
but I really think the north and south nodes, those
two destiny points. Especially if you don't know your birth time,
it's you can still get those.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yes, that was one of the questions that people had
was if they don't know their birth time, or their
birth time's not one hundred percent accurate, are they able
to get an accurate chart?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
You can, you just can't get a full at full chart.
You know, there's thirty degrees of every sign, so if
you look at your chart, it'll say a little number
like zero. So if there's a zero or a twenty
nine degree which is the first and last by any
of the planets in your chart, it's either it might
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be off by one. So you could say, oh, my
moon is a twenty nine degrees libra, but it might
be a two degrees scorpio if I was born a
couple hours later.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Oh, okay, so no, astrologers can really have a lot
of your yet you mean you won't.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
You probably won't get your big three right, but you
can get your mercury, your venus. You can learn enough
about your your moon will be either one sign or
another depending on the degree in. Astrologer can help you
with that, and there are astrologers to do or are
called rectified charts. They'll have a long conversation with you
and then they'll be able to adjust give you. Yeah,
(43:45):
they'll be like, think i'd think you this. Yeah, people
are really good at it, but you'll never know.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I have well I don't know whether you can actually
do it on the spot, but I actually have a
friend's chop.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Should I give it to you?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, so perfect.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
I have literally saw this and I was like, this
is amazing, but I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Oh thank you?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Uh huh, she was very excited.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Oh cool. So in aries with a libre rising, it
looks like is she twenty nine degrees the uh sudent
no scorpio rising.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Okay, I know, we're like it's like another language these
algar So here is to explain if this is her
in the middle of the chart looking up at the sky.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
These little symbols in here are all the planets, the sun,
in the moon, that's where they were. And in this
outer ring the pizza pizza crust. Yeah, are the twelve signs.
They each get thirty degrees equal, you know, very egalitarian.
They get their same amount of real estate. And so
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this symbols the sun, it was in the aries part
of the sky. That's why she's an Okay, this is
was the moon. The moon is here, it's in the
Gemini part of the sky, so that's why she's a
Gemini moon.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
That's how we read it, okay.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
And then the houses. So the houses are based on
the latitude and longitude of where you were born, and
that's that's when you need a birth time to have
an accurate houses. We call them the pizza slices. Depending
on how close to the equator you were born. They
can be if you're close to the equator, they're fairly
even inside north or South like you know, northern Europe,
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South America. You just want skinny ones. So the houses
don't are not only thirty degrees each. Some may encompass,
so they don't always line up with the crust of
the pizza there. But the toppings, we like to say,
are the planets and the signs they're in, So she
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has we look at so oh, and then it's till
the actors of the movie in your life. The signs
are in are the costume or rules, and the houses
are like the movie sets. And then these lines between
the planets their mathematical angles. Those are the roles or
the scenes that they have together. So we can say, oh,
they're talking to each other. Especially so you get the
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whole movie. This is useful to look at it like yeah, yeah,
and the way, so nine o'clock, this is the eastern horizon.
If you were to look out the window, that's what
you would see on the eastern horizon. Whatever sign is
crossing through there is your rising sign.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Oh, whatever's opposite, whatever it's whatever's.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
At the nine o'clock the chart. That's the beginning of
the chart, and then the houses go counterclockwise, first, second, third, fourth, fifth,
sixth all the way to the twelfth. Oh. I would
when if I was reading her chart, I would go, Okay,
she has a sun in aries, but it's in the
seventh house, the seventh house six, so she's like a
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virgoy aries. Virgo is the sixth sign, so aries tend
to be left unchecked, very bold, domineering personalities, but hers
may come out more in a helpful service, ye kind
of way. Like she works in health and wellness? Is
she a yoga teacher anything like that. She could be
very health oriented or wellness oriented or just organized.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
You know. It's a friend of a friend, so I
need to okay, I should probably know things.
Speaker 6 (47:19):
About Yeah, sorry, yeah, I would say, oh, okay, I
see in her have to look at the the fourth house,
which is home and family, the seventh houses relationships.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
The tenth house is career. So I would say, yeah,
I would say her son is in the what's in
the sixth You're right, say, oh, I see in her
fifth house, which is she's got sadder in there. That's
the house of love. That's the house of Venus, Yes,
Santur and Venus. That's also entertainment. So maybe she's someone
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who's working in entertainment here or should be. And when
it comes to love, she's like probably both her. So
her venus, which is love, isn't saturn as I'm sorry,
it's in her venus which is love isn't Pisces, so
it's her romantic lead as we're in the costume of Pisces,
so that can be like dreamy, swept away romantic. But
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she also is Saturn, which is discipline, serious energy, and
Pisces a life quickly and then be like, well, but
can they pass the tests?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
So I'm going to have reaction into all of this.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, fast time and then we can see but yeah, yeah, her.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Rising sign is Scorpio, so she's if we did her
Big three, she's in Aries with a Gemini moon and
a Scorpio rising. So Gemini Moon and Aries they play
well together, okay, you know, it's friendly, likes to talk,
needs a lot of reassurance. But then she's got the
Scorpio rising. So if if your son is your main character,
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your rising sign is the direct of the movie. So
there's a little bit of conflict there because the Arees
wants to be out in the world, but the Scorpios
doesn't really trust all these Scorpio rising reads. Everybody that's
like the handler your rising Sun. It's like, you know,
you are this wild and fiery Aries, but wait, don't
act like that in public. Like for the first impression,
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we're going to be controlled scorpios, so sort of the
mask you might wear how you first land with people,
Like we have a Capricorn rising, which is very different
than Sagittarius, but it's good sometimes it helps restrain the
sage a little and so it's but you learn how
to make all those it's like a recipe. You learn
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how to add the right proportions the ingredients in the
right places, right timing, and then you get all this facility.
Then you have superpowers, you know, because you're like, ooh,
I met someone. I know my Venus and Pisces is
gonna get swept away, but I know I have Saturn there.
So if that person Mars and lead out of long
term POTENTI Lars and Leo too. So she's probably a
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hopeless romance. I hope she has a good partner. She
might be navigating, Like you know, I really want to
find someone that has that kind of peak you for
a connection, but I also need to make maybe they
need to be a little older than me. That's sadder
in too, so you can you can start to like
let these things to get literally analyze this for like
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really fun. And that's why we like to talk to
the person.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Just because it goes back and they're.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Like, oh, you know what, that's so funny. My longest
term partner was twenty years older than me. We'll hear
something or like, oh we were I was with my
high school you know, boyfriend for ten years and we
almost got married. You know, you hear things that validate
and then it just comes back. It's not you're not
cheating in astrology, it's like you start to explain the
(50:51):
person and then they make sense to themselves. They're like,
I've been carrying this around. Now that's the best. The
best astrologers won't want you to be dependent, right, They
want you to just be empowered by them, not yourself.
Even if you come back to check on some things.
It's like if you have a toolbox. We all have
a toolbox here in the chart, but if you know
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how to use even if you only pick up the
hammer and drill the first time, there's a whole you know,
it's like something to come away with.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
And so that's the main page.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
And then the rest that they've been given is that
just in detail descriptions.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, the planet positions, Yeah amazing, Yeah, Oh I see
that there's an asteroids. Yeah, yeah, the asteroids people like,
you know, go beyond the planets and add those into Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
So, thank you so much. I'm gonna get back down.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
What I'll do is I'll try online share her reaction
to oh cool.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
I can tell her that she has what's called a
grand trine to a grand fire. Try and you see
this tryang, Yeah, here, if we look at the degrees,
that is this sort of unbridled spirit. Now it's like
this unchecked the planet's really flowing in harmony with each other.
She has Jupiter and Mars okay, the Sun and Ari
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it's a fire try and the Sun and Aries, which
is you know how she's her main character energy. She
has her Mars and Lea, which is fight, you know,
brash in, and then Jupiter, which is luck and Sagittarius.
So when she's into something, when she gets I make
money abroad.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Well, apparently she is obsessed with astrology, always wants to know.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
You know, south note. The last thing she should definitely
know is that her past life sign, her south note
isn't Taurus, and her north node Destiny son is in Scorpio,
which is mystery. So yeah, learning, well, there you go.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
That's definitely that I had some questions that came here.
I can take these. Yeah, I had some questions that
came in from the audience. You've actually answered a lot
of them.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
But one of the questions I thought was interesting was
if you have a C section, does it change the
child's astrology?
Speaker 1 (53:00):
No, because I did. I think that it doesn't matter
how a child comes into the world, their exact moment,
their first breath, c section, pre MEI whatever, it doesn't matter,
you know. I was there like when a minute okay,
cancer rising?
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good to honestly the rest of
them free will we discussed if you don't know the
exact time, you said, you can only have a certain
amount of information, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
But just enough, but a lot. There's an astrologer and
they'll help you sort it out.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Okay, Oh my gosh, amazing. All these other questions we've
already answered it. Okay in a conversation, Thank you so much.
You want people to know about astrology, that we could.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Talk a little bit about more about twenty twenties.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yes, I would love to Actually, I would love to know.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
I would love to know the specific themes and things
that you think people should be in detail, if possible,
doing avoiding starting.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
There's going to be a big identity shift for everybody
next year when Saturn and Neptune together in aries. But
we've kind of gotten warmed up to it this year.
We're all going to need to be really clear about
what we will and won't do next year, very like
we kind of twenty twenty five. People were a little
more like shell shocked a little by changes yea, And
(54:16):
now twenty twenty six it's like, I'm just going to
be a hard no to this. This does not work
for me. I think there'll be a lot more local
community organizing. URAN is the planet of communities going to Gemini,
so people are going to form their own I think
it's a great year for independent media podcasting URAN. It's
also rules technology in Gemini. It hasn't been in Gemini
(54:39):
since the nineteen forties, which was a peak time of
innovation and also coincided with World War Two, but the
economy was never better. So there's a lot of pros
and cons, but it is definitely this AI thing is
definitely here to stay. In Yeah, and humanism. It's going
to be weird. It's going to be a weird year
(55:01):
and for sure, But on a personal level, I think
people are going to feel like I have me in
a way that we haven't before. Venus the Planet of
Love is going retrograde in the town relationship side, Yeah,
from October third to November thirteenth, So it might actually
bring because relationships are really I mean, I feel like
(55:23):
you and Jay are kind of a rarity right now.
A lot of people are struggling to find relationships. Yeah,
We're at a time where people are going to want
to not sacrifice their individuality just to be part of
a community, to be part of a relationship. There's even
British Vogue just did an article about, like, is having
(55:43):
a boyfriend embarrassing?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Now?
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Like that it's cringey to talk about, which is a
little It's like it was humple goals was the hashtag
last year. Now it's cringe. But I think what's happening
more and more is that people are just like what
you know, we we want to be who we are.
We don't want to lose that in order to be
part of groups, companionships, units. So we're really exploring a
(56:08):
lot of paradox. Yeah, in the second half of the year,
the lunar nodes are changing. The first half of the year,
they're in Pisces and Virgo, so we're in this very
like pondering everything, like it's a great.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Is this the right thing to do?
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, it's very like foggy. All of this year has
also been that the North note has been in Pisces,
which is like putting this cloud, but like the South
note in Virgo, so self care, wellness, really just coming
back to our bodies is more important than ever. But
then halfway through the year the South note goes into
Leo and the North goes into Aquarius, and I think
that's going to bring a lot of social change, bringing
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back like leaders who are you know, honorable and for
the people again Yeah eight oh, I wasn't that one Oma? Yeah,
I feel like he's coming back that prediction.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
That's a let's go, let's come on. Thank you guys
so much. It's so pretty.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
So looking forward to read this book on my flight.
I want to hear all the predictions for my future.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
We're all in there. Thanks for having us on such
a great conversation.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
It really was answered all my questions.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
H
In twenty twenty six, something that has not happened in
thousands of years is happening, which is sadder in the
planet of structure and Neptune, which is the planet of dreams.
They are meeting at zero degrees areas on February twentieth,
the very first degree of the zodiac. So it's almost
like this great reason beginning happening. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Today, we've got the incredible AstroTwins joining me Ofira and
tally Edits. They are twin astrologers, best selling authors, and
founders of Astro Style. They've helped millions of people use
astrology as a tool for understanding themselves, their purpose, and
their relationships.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
But we measure mercury is actually going backwards to the
degrees that we count it. The things that mercury rules,
which are technology, transportation, communication, will go backwards as well.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm Radi w Kiah and on my podcast A Really
Good Cry, we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing
a space for raw, unfielded conversations that celebrate vulnerability, allow
you to tune in, to learn, connect and find comfort together.
Thank you both so much for being here. I am
honestly so excited to speak to you. I read through
(01:10):
your book and honestly, I have so many questions that
I want to ask you.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But first, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So excited to be here too.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So my first question is actually unrelated to astrology, and
it's like, what is it like being twins?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean, we don't know anything else. It's like we say,
it's like being being like born married. Anyways, yea, the
built in best friend partnership. I know we've shared a
bank account, a piggy bank. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Have you ever pretended to be one another a couple times? Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Nice classes. Yes, never switched boyfriends. Everyone always asks that, But.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That's a nice line to draw, right.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Wefinitely draw the line there, although we've been asked.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, I do think that there's something as soon as
I think about twins, I do think of something that
feels very spiritual and something that feels very connected. Obviously,
And did you find from a young age that you
guys had a different connection to how other people would
describe their sibling relationship?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
For sure, we used we had our own language, even
remember a little bit of it. It's like we Yeah,
I think it's just very lucky. You always have someone
who's I mean, sometimes when you're going through something and
you are not wanting to be in that phase like
you know, adolescence of course, like oh there's a mirror
all the time, right, but it makes you very self aware. Yeah,
(02:34):
I bet. Basically, yeah, I'd always someone to process stuff with.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And so that's been good, so lovely.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I know I have a sister, not twins, but definitely
appreciate sibling relationships, and especially when you get older and older,
you feel like you value them so much more. How
did you both get into astrology? Like, how did that
come about? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It was it was an accident. My college boyfriend many
years ago gave me a birth chart as a gift
for my twenty first game US A birth chart four
minutes apart. Was only the tiniest difference, but not enough
to matter there. So yeah, I mean we had been
kind of interested in, oh we're Sagittarius. That does sound
(03:20):
like us, but then the full birth chart was like
whoa this is? And we discovered because the birth chart
is a map of where every single planet is when
you're born. Most people only know where the sun was
in the zodiac.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay, but that where Sagittarius yes, yeah, people say what's
your sign, like where was the sun positioned in the sky?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's in relation to the Earth, but the moon is
you know, only someone born in the same minute, in
the same time zone as you will share the exact chart.
Even we four minutes a part of a slightly different
chart as twins. Very very subtle, but it shows up
in the kinds of friends we pick the guys that
we dated, and so that is actually helpful, I guess,
(04:06):
you know. It was really shocking how descriptive. It was
like a thirty page booklet, and I was like, this
is just way too uncanny to be an accident. So
we just learned how to do our friends and yeah,
it was just was like, okay, things do come with instructions.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
What do you know and what are some of the
things that you feel people don't really know that they
can actually be that can be revealed to them through
learning the astrology.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I think one of the biggest things is your core
destiny and purpose. Using the north and south nodes, they're
called Rahu and ke To in Vedic or cabalistic astrology,
looks at them. There's two points in the chart that
are based on where the eclipses were happening essentially closest
(04:54):
to your time of birth, and they're in opposite signs,
the lunar nodes, and you know they change every eighteen months.
So you kind of come in with the soul group.
You can see what your comfort zone is and what
your you know, your destiny is karmic growth area.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, so it's a really great thing to help if
someone feels lost in their life or if they feel
like they don't know what that purpose is.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Those two things can many.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
A tendencies that might you know, in our example, we
have a cancer south note, so we kind of default
into being you know, domestic. We like to you know,
be in our bubbles, creating, and we're always surrounded by
you've done a lot of pro women work. Cancer is
the sign of women. But then our north note is Capricorns.
(05:41):
We get pushed to taking that out into the business world,
which is what Capricorn is about. So knowing that that's
been a lot of women leaders. So sometimes you'll be
struggling and you don't know if it's because you're doing
the wrong thing or because you're supposed to learn something.
Chart can show you are you struggling because Oh, you
(06:01):
need to like do a little more of this, little
less of that. And it's been a really good dining system.
We are. Nobody has a perfect chart, no one has
a lucky chart. Necessarily. There are things you can see
where you'll be challenged more. But I feel like our
souls maybe sign up for that. Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And you mentioned badich astrology. That's the only kind of
astrology that I grew up knowing. I don't really know much,
but my mom would always follow certain things to do
with it. I had my birth chat down when I
was a baby, and she always reads it to me, like.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Every year to remind me.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, she does do that, And actually it was weirdly accurate.
It spoke about that I was going to move abroad.
It spoke about me even having a job where I
would be watched by a lot of people, lots of
lots of interesting things, which when I was younger, I
was like, there's no way I'm moving abroad.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I love where I live. I'm never going to go.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And that was something I never wanted to do, but
it ended up happening. One of the main differences between
the two West and Western astrology and Vada gastrology.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, in Western astrology, it's more based on geometry, not
the constellations. The constellations have shifted about twenty four degrees.
But in Vedic it actually the signs have you know
when you read those articles that come out every so often,
like your zodiacs on is different. It's actually true in
(07:24):
Vedic astrology because the constellations have moved and it follows that,
whereas Western astrology follows the seasons. The first you know,
first day of spring starts the zodiac zero degrees arees.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So wow, and then you said that you're mentioning that
things can change every eighteen months or something. So whatever
you're born with, so that doesn't just stay as a.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well it does. It's like what your birth chart is
is basically a selfie of the sky overhead, your mone
of birth when you see the wheels, what you're looking
at is imagine, I always say, imagine yourself lying on
a blanket looking up at the stars at your moment
of birth and just freeze framing what you saw overhead,
(08:07):
or looking with the telescope and what you see in
the telescope ring the arrangement the pattern of the planets
around where you are on Earth at your moment of
birth is what our chart is, the Western chart.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That's a really nice way of putting it.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I just imagine myself as a baby.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And they all move through the zodiac at different speeds.
So the Sun stays in a sign for thirty days,
the moon two and a half days, the ascendant two hours,
Mercury three weeks, and the further out you go from
the Sun, the like Pluto will stay and assign for
twelve to thirty years. So you'll share a lot of
(08:49):
generational The generations tend to have similar groupings, Like all
the millennials have a lot of the outer planets in Capricorn,
this like heavy burden of responsibility and you know, girl
bossing to create the sun or whatever you have. The
boomers have a lot of Leo and cancers of the
(09:11):
family duty and all the kind of what's the shadows
side of Leo of being sort of self involved that
they're accused of that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
So, yeah, this is so fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Okay, tell me more about the planets because obviously we're talking,
so is everything based around different planets and what do
different planet If you could pick a few of the
planets that really create the most impact.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, I'm glad you asked that because we have spent
so much time trying to figure out how to explain this.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay, great, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We even have a code of course we do once
a year called become your Own Astrologer, and we talk
about it with the movie metaphors. So we talk about
the planets being like the actors in the movie of
your life, like your soul I believe, picks the exact
moment to be born, so it gets this cosmic with
all the strengths and challenges and opportunities to evolve. So
(10:05):
the planets are like the actors the movie of your Life.
The Sun is the main character, so we're Sagittarius. Our
main character is going to have the traits of that.
And then the zodiac signs that they're in are like
the roles they're playing, the costumes they're wearing, that sort
of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Wow, and can astrology tell someone like what detail can
astrology go into?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I know you said, yeah, very specific, Yeah, especially the moon.
So we really started getting obsessed when we learned that
we had a moon in Scorpio, which explained so the
moon is if the sun is the main character, the
moon is like the private backstage you know, best supporting, yeah,
(10:46):
or like the Ma Mager kind of of your chart,
like do this, do more of this? You know, only
the people who know you closely will really know your
moon sign, but it has so much influence over you. Yeah,
the moon, and I think more and more is people
become more comfortable talking about their feelings and trauma and
(11:07):
attachment syles. Our moon signs are kind of showing up
more and more. But Moon and Scorpio for us was like, whoa, yeah,
I do have these like deep feelings that I don't
want every I'm not just as Sagittarius wild child, you know.
And so that and then we actually have Mercury which
is communication, Venus which is love, and creativity in Mars
(11:30):
which is your drive, and Scorpio too. So that was
what when I read that, I was like, oh my god,
I wonder we want to solve every mystery people tick.
So yeah, that's what happens. As people see their charts.
They discover these dimensions themselves that don't always go neatly together,
and we divide it between the inner planets, the personal planets,
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and the outer planets. So that's so easier grouping to
think of it, the inner planets Mercury, so the Sun
and Moon we call the planets in astrology Mercury, Venus,
and Mars. They move pretty quickly through the zodiac, so
they influence the way you would deal with people. When
someone wants to love reading, we look at that or
day life. But then the outer planets when you're looking
(12:13):
at your bigger purpose. You know, Jupiter will show where
you're lucky, and every twelve years, Jupiter will return to
where it was when you're born. And you have this,
you may have moved here on one of your Jupiter returns.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yes, I've had about Jupiter time. I definitely I was
going through that phase when I was moving.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Oh of course, there you go. See. And then Saturn
the Saturn return. Saturn takes twenty nine and a half
years to go through all the signs and return to
where it was when you were born. So around just
before thirty people kind of go through this right of
passage where you're like, Okay, I'm going to be an
adult now I'm going to take this on and to
(12:52):
explain that. So your chart never changes. But where astrologers
become oracles is we do what's called a by wheel,
So you wrap a second chart around your birth chart,
and it's almost like the ticking clock moving, so you
can see the planet's moving and activating parts of your
chart as they move, so you'll have cycles and phases
(13:16):
where certain things will happen. You can also do that
with a couple or a business partner. You can take
one chart and another layer them and see where they activate,
and you can combine the two charts. One of our
books is called Super Couple, where every relationship has a
third chart that's a blend of the two as well.
So it's endlessly fascinating.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And if people come to you with specific questions, Okay,
let's say someone gives you their talk, can you do
everything from know whether they're going to get a job,
to know when they're going to die, to like what
if you wanted to?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Could you know you wanted to?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You might be able to predict that. But I don't
think anyone not predict is what I like to say.
Like think of it as like your life is like
a long highway and there's entrances and exits, so something
could happen, but I don't. I think that we have
free will and our souls have some decisions, so don't
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I don't ever like to predict a death, Like what
good is it going to do? You tell someone that
you know? People want to know. Some people will do it,
and some people will you know. But I think, okay,
if someone wanted to change jobs, we could definitely look
and be like next year is a much more favorable
cycle between these months, and it gives people validation and relief.
(14:37):
Often they're already thinking that way and oh good, I
didn't want to do that till March. You just made
me feel okay about making this decision.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So I find most people come to you when they've
got a problem or issue or worry or can should
people be getting their charts to ride regularly?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I think people come to us for two reasons. One
is if they just want to know their basic cosmic blueprint,
never had their birth chart done. They want to know
who am I according to the stars, what's here for me?
And then another way is you know, timing of a
crossroads or a decision or planning to help. We like
(15:15):
to help people with planning or oh, someone came back
into your life from your past, what's going on? How
should you handle it? It's usually is something that they're like, Okay,
I can't really figure this one out on my own.
Maybe it would be good to get a little guy almost.
I mean, you could literally work with an astrologer every
week basically.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Right, Yeah, if some people really do that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
We have some clients that we clients, businesses, teams that
we died regularly, but we try to give people some
of the tools to figure that out themselves too.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And you mentioned free will.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I would love to know, because I think that's always
the debate where what if I end up being told
all these things about my astrology and then I'm waiting
for them to happen, and I'm I have a friend who, oh,
you're going to meet your partner is going to be
with the name like the big first that is going
to be Ja.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Let's just say.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And then every person that she meets with the letter
J and she's like, face might be oh god, yeah,
she is definitely him. They said it was gonna be Ja,
they said it's gonna have dark hair. Absolutely, this is
my guy. And so I guess my question is how
does one take on astrology without it becoming something that
they are too dependent on and molding their life towards it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Absolutely. We like to say we advise using astrology as
a tool, not a rule. Nobody knows that. The idea
of learning your chart and learning how it works is
to expand your consciousness, and as you expand your consciousness,
you gain free will. I make the metaphor of like,
say you get a new phone, you take it out
(16:53):
of the box, you don't really know how to use
all the features. As you learn how it's operating system works,
you gain more ability to do things with that phone.
But you don't just go phone, tell me how to
live my life. So I think that's a misuse of astrology. Yes,
we really discourage people from being exactly we'll see in
a year. But yeah, you don't want to have an
(17:15):
astrologer and be dependent, because then you're not doing the
work the stars mean. For I think the planets and
stars wants to co create our lives with them, not
just be like, show me what to do. I'll be
hiding for three weeks. Mercury's Red Year. I met my
husband a friend of ours who's psychic. She was like,
I see an aries coming for you, surrounded by boxes.
(17:38):
So I was like, oh my god, and so I
met a guy, an Aries, guy who I thought was cute.
He was moving and you know, but the book says
boxes boxes. And then I met a guy at my
yoga class and we went out and he was in construction,
and then I was like, oh my god, screw, this
is not going to happen. And I just was like
I went to Burning Man that year. I was like,
(18:00):
I'm just gonna have fun. And then I get there
and this guy is like building a geodesic dome and
water filtration for our camp and I was like, what
sign are you? It's like I'm an Aries. I was like, no,
tally no. But then I married him for seventeen years. Oh,
I was like just box. There was some boat boxes obvious,
(18:21):
but I'm just saying, like, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Maybe you picked your boxes right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Too, chee, but it was. Yeah, it was kind of
like a universal joke with you and you get too
attached to something too, It's like, no.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, how do you you know?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I think one thing that's really difficult for people when
it comes to choosing an astrologer or trusting in an
astrologer is knowing whether they are for real.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Like I think that's.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Really difficult, and is there a way for people to
to tell it?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Are there like signs?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Because you know, I think whenever I think of my
birth chart, I think of it is something that I
really have to treasure up because someone can find out
so much information just by having your time of birth
and the day that you were born, and it's for me.
I always think of it as such protected information that
I would want to give to someone that I really
trust or that have the qualifications for it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
How can people decide?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I think this brings us back to neuroscience and our
understanding of intuition. Her friend Haifa always talks about how
she reminded me recently that ninety five percent of our
decisions are made with our subconscious, which is just pattern recognitions.
So a good astrologer will make you actually feel calmer,
(19:41):
not afraid. Now, maybe the patterns that your brain is
wired for are causing you to fear changes that would
be positive for you. So you want to be self
aware enough to know. Do I feel a little scared
because I know I need to change, or because this
feels wrong. I feel like maybe this person is scaring
me so they can take advantage of me. And that
(20:03):
kind of thing. So there's different kinds of discomfort, but
the discomfort you feel, if any, with an astrologer, should
be the kind that's pushing you to make growth that
you needed, you know you need to do. It's like
get recommendations too, I would say, like if and also
you can watch them for a while on social media,
(20:25):
make sure they have a presence and then you can
feel that and see the kind of advice they give.
Does it resonate with you? I mean not all astrologers
are on social media. Some are some really great astrologers
who just undercover, right, are like on their landline. Yeah,
no one knows you better than you know yourself. That
(20:46):
maybe an astrologer can see something that you can't, because
human beings are our own biggest blind spots. But if
it feels wrong, just press pause on the readings, be like,
you know what, I don't know if that's going to
resonate with me. Look, let's move to and new to
unhect some people like people have come to us with
like you know, nostrologers only I was never going to
(21:07):
get married and that's so irresponsible. Oh yeah, and no
one knows that that's the subject of free will. It's
your question before in any moment. Some I've had a
client who was like, where is my man? Am I
going to get my you know? And I was like,
are you going to be the space? Are you going
to be the clearing the space that can attract ready
(21:29):
to Yeah? What what do you think a relationship will
provide in your life? And we had to unpack that
a little using her chart and from there it's like, oh,
she didn't really want a relationship, is what we.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Discovered looking at her.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, I thought she was supposed of a certain type,
just wanted someone to go out with and you know,
and then and she had to just give herself permission
to want that.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
If someone if you read someone's chot and it does
say they may not be able to have children or
they may not get married, is that something you go
saying that something that can be changed based on the
way that.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I I don't think that there's any determinists act like that.
I did.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I've had I had I had came in.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
That was actually my who's my physical therapist and who
would just talk about astrology. So he brought his partner
in and they were really trying to have a baby,
and she was about to give up on her last
IVF and I was like Jupiter, Jupiter the lucky plant
was about to go into her fifth house of fertility
for yours, like give it one more try, And then
(22:34):
I met their baby. I'm getting chills literally like a
year later and we did a little reading, but like
it's worth I try to look for opportunities. I don't know,
I think we both try to look for opportunities cycles
for people or what blocks. Like you can look at
where Saturn might be her Neptune where you're diluting yourself
Pluto where you're projecting and being unconscious, like I know
(22:56):
you talk about this a lot in your podcast, Like
we can get it out of our own ways. Personal
responsibility be changing the things that you eat, and that's
something and you can see when would be a good
time to do that. Especially I love that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I love that you can, like you said, oh, there
was an opportunistic moment that she would be most likely
to have success.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
And I think that's.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
The one the one way that I really appreciate, not
one way I love astrology, but the one way that
makes the most sense to me, where it's not telling
you should or shouldn't do something. What it's telling you
is these are actually the perfect way or the ideal
moments for you to do something. So, whether it's your job,
whether it's getting pregnant. And then what you said about eating,
It's like, yeah, of course, even if your chart says
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you could get pregnant in this time, it's like, but
how am I preparing myself for that movement? This is
the opportunity moment, but you have to work for that
opportunity to exactly. So.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Imagine you won the lottery and they came and knocked
on your door to tell you were a multi millionaire.
If you didn't answer the door, they'd go to the
next house. Planitary cycles are like I like, I think
taking a quantum view of astrology is good at any moment.
Infinite possibilities exist for each of us, but how can
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we access those points? The chart can help you tune
yourself for anything that you want.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Wow, you have to be willing, yes, And I love
what you said about personal responsibility. I think that's what
sometimes you go to an astrology to just surrender and
be like you just tell me what to do, tell
me what's going to happen in my life because I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I basically don't want to participate.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But you have to be an active participant to your
life if you want these things to always happen.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Someone just technically we were having some scheduling trouble with
her reading, and she wanted me to just do like
a voice recorded thing for her, and I was like, okay,
and then I started. I was like, no, no, no,
it has to be a conversation. We have to co
create together, and so we wound up rescheduling it. I
was like, no, that's not you don't want this. The
era we're in now in the world is about being involved.
(24:56):
Like it's interesting with AI. It's almost like people are
being you know, oh, I don't have to deal with
the work. But as humans, I think we fundamentally want
to build the muscle by engaging. We don't want a
robot to come and wipe every counter. I mean some
people might I like wiping my counters down.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, But also the energetic exchange that you get from
human interaction. Even with your astrologists, I feel like it's
so important for them to not just read a chart.
They're feeling your energy. Like there's so much to that
interaction as well. Exactly in your bog you speak about
I think it's in the astrology advantage. You talk about
these archetypes. I would love for you to go into
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those and explain how they were.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Absolutely so. Over the years, we built a business out
of astrology, and more and more people were starting to
enter spiritual business practices, and we realized we had gained
a second set of skills, which is how to create
a successful spiritual brand that reached millions of people every
n month, and that became our full time job. So
(26:03):
we for the last decade have been teaching people, call
them astropreneurs, have been teaching them, yeah, how to use
their chart. But we realized that we needed to give
them a little bit of a shorthand because thinking about
building a business and learning astrology is a lot for
your brain at once, so we lead into a short cut.
The twelve zodiac signs are divided into four elements via earth, air,
(26:27):
and water, and also three what are called qualities which
have these fancy astro jargon he names cardinal, fixed, and mutable.
So we renamed those three types innovator, authority, and maven,
and we have a whole system and process for making
decisions people. I think the average adult makes thirty eight
(26:48):
thousand decisions a day. It's probably more so that came out,
I know, a couple thousand about food alone. Maybe more
for you, yeah yeah, but I mean definitely more for
me because I'm picky. But yeah, So we need to
tap into the tools without having to memorize the birth chart.
So we used it. We saw people like someone even
(27:08):
sold their company using it. So now we teach teach
it regularly and we have this book. It's basically a
short you know, as complex as it is, as we're
trying to explain the sun and moon and all the planets,
it's like this is if you could put your entire
chart in a blender and just come up with a
simple archetype to use everything. That is what that does.
(27:29):
So even though for example, we're Sagittarius, which is a
fire sign, the majority of the planets in our chart
are water, and the majority of them are cardinal signs,
which are the ones that start every season, the one
we call innovators. So we are. So we came up
with a way for people to do that. We have
to do yours. I know, the link for people to
(27:53):
go do the quiz for free and oh you use
your time dating place of birth. So it's like the
modern personality has mashed up with astrology. But you don't
have to answer one hundred questions. You just need your
birth data, time date, and place and it'll tell you
what you are. And it's really uncanny. I'm doing a
lot of work with like women and the C suite
women leaders and helping them, you know, just not waste
(28:16):
all their time doubting themselves.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Wow. Yeah, oh, I definitely want to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's yeah, oh yeah, I would love to do that
for you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
You write a book of predictions every year. I got mine.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, guys, I'm so excited to read this. I'm going
on a paint off to this. I'm going to take
it with me. My Leo twenty twenty six Daily Harscope
plan Now, so this is the planet what I can
write in as well.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah. It has calendar pages for every day and then
the little tabs in the back are month by month.
The front part is it has your theme for the year,
your top five things that you really need to focus
on when all the planets are going to be in Leo,
we gave the year of theme. Actually every year we
do this. Twenty twenty six is the year of the
(28:58):
Unbridled Spirit.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Oh, tell me more about that.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I was about talking about all the Yeah, we called
it that because well, twenty twenty five is the year
of the divine pendulum. Because what was happening this year
is those outer planets, the ones that are Jupiter, Saturn
to Pluto. They they've been swinging back and forth between
(29:22):
two signs, which is very unusual. So they sort of
darted into these new, more young, more active signs and
then these after long periods of time up to fifteen
years for Neptune in these watery in sort of traditional
energies and people. That's kind of why twenty twenty five
(29:42):
has spent such a disruptive year.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Did it make did all the things that happened in
this year and how heavy it was, and it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
It was a nine year numerology, which is the end
of a ten year cycle, so it was about ending,
shedding skin transform I mean two thousand and one was
a snake year. Twenty thirteen yeah, so it's a lot
of upheaval and chaos. But y, yeah, twenty in twenty
twenty six, something that has not happened in thousands of
(30:13):
years is happening, which is sadder in the planet of
structure and Neptune, which is the planet of dreams. So
Saturn creates boundaries, Neptune dissolves. Oh, Saturn's about reality, Neptune's
about dreams and fantasy. They are meeting at zero degrees
aries on February twentieth, the very first degree of the zodiac.
(30:36):
So it's almost like this great really happening.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, is that on a specific day, February twentieth, And
every thing not yet's in the book We write about
it extensively for every sign what to expect, but yeah,
every sign's going to kind of have this internal reset
for themselves.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And yeah, with for Leos, it's around fame and creativity
and you know, just being more out in the world.
Actually twenty I know, I see what's gonna happen more world. Yeah,
I mean exactly. Next year is actually a really good
year for Leo's because Jupiter is entering your sign is
the year on June thirty. Yeah, like just again new
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twelve year cycle, being more public, more out in the public.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Oh interesting, Yeah, see if that's a good thing or
about the.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yearly don't feel like it now, but yeah, that's zero.
It's like it's also a one year which is new energy,
and it's the year the fire Horse starting February seventeenth
with an eclipse.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Some eclipses coming up.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
So it's like a lot of forward moving Maverick energy,
you know, like maybe no guard rails, but like I
think just a feeling of like we are human spiritual
beings having a human experience that we're all going to
kind of remember that too. Like there's this feeling in
(32:02):
twenty twenty five for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Being like stuck bit heavy.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah yeah, and like there's a way of like this
freedom that's.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Come backness of new energy. I love new beginnings.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh, I know in our in our tradition, there are
so many festivals and so many spiritual moments where it's
like Okay, time to research, time to get back.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
To your practices, and there's so many of them. I
really look forward to that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Okay, great, and now I have a date where I'm
going to restart this and I'm gonna have a.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Date with start this.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
People want, though, they want hope, and they want a
fresh start. Yes, that's important to it is that's the
only thing that motivates people. I forgot the book I
was reading that's by like a Harvard researcher who's saying that,
like the number one thing is a fresh start. If
people don't think that they're going to have one, they
just lose hopes.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yes, okay, cool, twenty twenty six ers not people.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, you spoke about someone said mercury retrograde. And I
had a few questions on this that even my community asked,
what is mercury retrograde? And what should one be doing
during that time or not doing or not doing exactly?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So, three or four times a year, mercury passes the
Earth in its orbit. And have you ever been in
a car where you're passing another one that's going at
a different speed and one appears to be going backwards. Yes, so,
because the planets move at different speeds, it's this optical illusion.
But we measure the planet's motion from our vantage point
(33:26):
on Earth, so to look like through that magic telescope,
it'll look like mercury is actually going backwards through the
degrees that we count it as we're passing. So the
things that mercury rules, which are technology, transportation, communication will
go backwards as well. Every planet goes retrograde to at
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a certain point, but Mercury, being the one that's closest
to the Sun that influences our day to day communications,
really seems to affect us a lot. Venus two goes
retrograde every eighteen months or six weeks, so we have
that in twenty twenty six. It's kind of like all
the you know, it's a time to focus on reactivities,
(34:09):
like if you want to, I mean, I think our
society so go, go go that retrogrades have become unlucky
because they sort of force us to take a time out.
But if you can plan ahead, which now you can
because we tell you all the dates of the Mercury
retrograde in the book, if you plan ahead, you can say,
you know, I'm taking these three weeks to go a
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little slower. I know things are going to come that
I'm going to need to review or reconsider, rewind and
if you look at it that way, or reconnect to
people from your past that you want in your life.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You know, I know, I always see these funny memes that'
psych it's mercy your retrograde. You're not supposed to get
back with your eggs erectly exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Oh and it happens. Yeah, up, people from your past
will definitely really and you know it's it can sub
travel sometimes it coincides with the holidays and we'll see
things at airports delays and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
So that is anything people should not do, Like should
they avoid starting new things.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Or I think it's not the best time to launch, Okay,
so if you can help it or do like a
soft launch. It's like bugs and tweet, you know, like
you can't just shut your entire life down for three
and a half weeks. But definitely like see if you
can slow down or delay or just if you have
to sign a contract, really have it reviewed, read the
fine print. Just make sure that you triple check everything. Yeah,
(35:35):
don't rush into things.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay, it's the time to slow down. Yeah, we'll present
and obseepans.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And you know, if you have a project that isn't finished,
use it as like a quarterly review, finishing up. Oh,
there's probably emails to return. Yeah. We were born Yeah,
we were born with mercury retrograde. And I think it
makes us good writers and editors. You know a lot
of people were who are tend to be or like
(36:01):
leave me alone in my little cave, right right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Wow, it's so interesting. Okay, I want to switch up
to love and horoscopes.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Okay, let's say someone gets their chart done or two
people do and it says that they are really compatible
or absolutely not compatible. What should people be doing from
that moment? Like is it is it something that they
can adapt and change? And can that become untrue if it's.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I feel it's it's just accepting, Like I don't know.
It's like I don't know if it is like totally well,
there are things that are like well that might be
challenging for the time of view, but I don't think
it's written in stone that just because your venuses are
in a nice you know, maybe you'll have a great
honeymoon period and romance or but like every relationship will
(36:51):
hit a point. Yeah, Like easy relationships aren't always the best.
They can get boring. I like, I couldn't do my
husband's chart when I met him because there was no
Wi Fi signal. Then it burning and I was like,
you're an aries, but where's your moon? Where's your Mars
venus and then like I finally got out of there,
(37:13):
and I was like, oh, good moon sign opposite moon.
But I was like, I have Venus and Mars and
scorpio water signs. He is his Venus and Mars and
air signs. And I always knew that that was just
going to be a little bit tricky really and it
and it proved to be. But I have no regrets
(37:34):
about being married for the time that we were, which
was seventeen years, you know, So it's differences, like but
it was that he did get in the way at
the end. It didn't like to go to the same
kind of like concerts and shows. But his sort of
airy objectiveness and your watery emotional intelligence can really come
together nicely. I learned so much, Like I've grown so
(37:57):
much from the relationship. I would never change it. But ultimately,
like it's like, do you want a relationship that's just
like comfortable, like okay, someone to just relax around, or
do you want someone who's going to challenge you to grow?
And sometimes a hard relationship is actually the best one
because you do learn things about yourself that you wouldn't
if you just like exactly you know, like I've I
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had never It was like it was the best challenge
in a lot of ways because I got in touch
with parts of myself that I wouldn't have. And I
think that we choose our relationships with our hearts, with
our souls, with something else. But the astrology chart is
a tool for knowing how to navigate it and it
might last for seventeen years or seven months or seven minutes.
(38:43):
But like everything that, I mean, my view and probably
yours too, is that hers because we're twins in my brain.
Everyone else, sorry, this is a peril of being a twin. Yeah,
don't always agree, but I think every relationship comes along
(39:05):
for a reason, and that we're not just here to
have the perfect life. We're here to grow and evolve.
And sometimes it's the friction and the differences and difficult charts,
you know, that can be the lessons. And then you know,
if you have these incompatible compare and contrast charts, like
(39:26):
I said, you can also do your combined chart and
find the sign and the chart of your relationships, so
which can be completely different, like we did a yeah
if our website for that is supercouple dot com. There's
a calculator that'll tell you. Oh cool, yeah, because you
look at like, for example, like Justin Bieber, Justin and
(39:47):
Hailey Bieber. He's a Pisces, she's a Sagittarius. You would
never see them, you know, matched up, but together they
become a Capricorn, which is serious and parents and church
and all things that they did. Like alone they were wild,
which was like their signs, but together they become very
like yeah, yeah, so you can do that with anyone,
(40:09):
you know, you being a Leo and shaping a Virgo
like your one sign of part so one of you
is gonna win the coin toss. You'll have to see
if your relationship is Leo or a Virgo. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I know what it is. Does that mean he's the
more dominant? Oh not really.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Well, it's just when you guys are together. If we
are to take the midpoint of your birthdays, wherever it
is on the calendar, will either be in the Leo
or the Virgo zone. Just so yeah, I would, Yeah,
could go either way because are very Virgo spiritual together,
but also very Leo like glamour and fame together.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
So yeah, I didn't even know Leo is glamor and
fame it is.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yes, see fancy. One question that I had was, you know,
I have friends who would say, oh, I love Leo women,
but I do not get along with Leo man. Right,
different male and female versions of horoscopes. People seem to
have different interactions with them. So are there a big
(41:13):
difference between the male version and the female version of
these horoscopes?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
There can be, Yeah, I think in the way that
the trait, like if you lean into being classically feminine
or classically masculine, then there can be obnoxiousness on both sides.
You know, for sure. It's such an interesting time because
that used to be very much part of how astrologers wrote,
and now with gender being so much more fluid and
(41:39):
redefined by people like, it's a really interesting time to
see how astrology matches with that. Yeah, but it does
still show up. Actually, our first horoscope writing job was
for teen People magazine and daily Horoscopes His and Hers
seven days a week. I was like, talk about boot camp.
It was like, oh my god, I'm not going any where.
(42:00):
I'd meet friends at eleven pm. I'm an Aquarius. I've
got two more signs to go. I'll be right out.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Oh but it's good like, how long did you write
for them?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
For? Ye? For Yeah, they went out of business.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, did you do you think that people should like
if they had to know the basic what are the
basics you recommend people know about their chart? Like would
it just be their son they're rising the big.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Three years, it's called definitely the sun, moon and rising,
but I really think the north and south nodes, those
two destiny points. Especially if you don't know your birth time,
it's you can still get those.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yes, that was one of the questions that people had
was if they don't know their birth time, or their
birth time's not one hundred percent accurate, are they able
to get an accurate chart?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
You can, you just can't get a full at full chart.
You know, there's thirty degrees of every sign, so if
you look at your chart, it'll say a little number
like zero. So if there's a zero or a twenty
nine degree which is the first and last by any
of the planets in your chart, it's either it might
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be off by one. So you could say, oh, my
moon is a twenty nine degrees libra, but it might
be a two degrees scorpio if I was born a
couple hours later.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Oh, okay, so no, astrologers can really have a lot
of your yet you mean you won't.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
You probably won't get your big three right, but you
can get your mercury, your venus. You can learn enough
about your your moon will be either one sign or
another depending on the degree in. Astrologer can help you
with that, and there are astrologers to do or are
called rectified charts. They'll have a long conversation with you
and then they'll be able to adjust give you. Yeah,
(43:45):
they'll be like, think i'd think you this. Yeah, people
are really good at it, but you'll never know.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I have well I don't know whether you can actually
do it on the spot, but I actually have a
friend's chop.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Should I give it to you?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, so perfect.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
I have literally saw this and I was like, this
is amazing, but I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Oh thank you?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Uh huh, she was very excited.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Oh cool. So in aries with a libre rising, it
looks like is she twenty nine degrees the uh sudent
no scorpio rising.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Okay, I know, we're like it's like another language these
algar So here is to explain if this is her
in the middle of the chart looking up at the sky.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
These little symbols in here are all the planets, the sun,
in the moon, that's where they were. And in this
outer ring the pizza pizza crust. Yeah, are the twelve signs.
They each get thirty degrees equal, you know, very egalitarian.
They get their same amount of real estate. And so
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this symbols the sun, it was in the aries part
of the sky. That's why she's an Okay, this is
was the moon. The moon is here, it's in the
Gemini part of the sky, so that's why she's a
Gemini moon.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
That's how we read it, okay.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
And then the houses. So the houses are based on
the latitude and longitude of where you were born, and
that's that's when you need a birth time to have
an accurate houses. We call them the pizza slices. Depending
on how close to the equator you were born. They
can be if you're close to the equator, they're fairly
even inside north or South like you know, northern Europe,
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South America. You just want skinny ones. So the houses
don't are not only thirty degrees each. Some may encompass,
so they don't always line up with the crust of
the pizza there. But the toppings, we like to say,
are the planets and the signs they're in, So she
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has we look at so oh, and then it's till
the actors of the movie in your life. The signs
are in are the costume or rules, and the houses
are like the movie sets. And then these lines between
the planets their mathematical angles. Those are the roles or
the scenes that they have together. So we can say, oh,
they're talking to each other. Especially so you get the
(46:13):
whole movie. This is useful to look at it like yeah, yeah,
and the way, so nine o'clock, this is the eastern horizon.
If you were to look out the window, that's what
you would see on the eastern horizon. Whatever sign is
crossing through there is your rising sign.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Oh, whatever's opposite, whatever it's whatever's.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
At the nine o'clock the chart. That's the beginning of
the chart, and then the houses go counterclockwise, first, second, third, fourth, fifth,
sixth all the way to the twelfth. Oh. I would
when if I was reading her chart, I would go, Okay,
she has a sun in aries, but it's in the
seventh house, the seventh house six, so she's like a
(46:52):
virgoy aries. Virgo is the sixth sign, so aries tend
to be left unchecked, very bold, domineering personalities, but hers
may come out more in a helpful service, ye kind
of way. Like she works in health and wellness? Is
she a yoga teacher anything like that. She could be
very health oriented or wellness oriented or just organized.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
You know. It's a friend of a friend, so I
need to okay, I should probably know things.
Speaker 6 (47:19):
About Yeah, sorry, yeah, I would say, oh, okay, I
see in her have to look at the the fourth house,
which is home and family, the seventh houses relationships.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
The tenth house is career. So I would say, yeah,
I would say her son is in the what's in
the sixth You're right, say, oh, I see in her
fifth house, which is she's got sadder in there. That's
the house of love. That's the house of Venus, Yes,
Santur and Venus. That's also entertainment. So maybe she's someone
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who's working in entertainment here or should be. And when
it comes to love, she's like probably both her. So
her venus, which is love, isn't saturn as I'm sorry,
it's in her venus which is love isn't Pisces, so
it's her romantic lead as we're in the costume of Pisces,
so that can be like dreamy, swept away romantic. But
(48:17):
she also is Saturn, which is discipline, serious energy, and
Pisces a life quickly and then be like, well, but
can they pass the tests?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
So I'm going to have reaction into all of this.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, fast time and then we can see but yeah, yeah, her.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Rising sign is Scorpio, so she's if we did her
Big three, she's in Aries with a Gemini moon and
a Scorpio rising. So Gemini Moon and Aries they play
well together, okay, you know, it's friendly, likes to talk,
needs a lot of reassurance. But then she's got the
Scorpio rising. So if if your son is your main character,
(48:58):
your rising sign is the direct of the movie. So
there's a little bit of conflict there because the Arees
wants to be out in the world, but the Scorpios
doesn't really trust all these Scorpio rising reads. Everybody that's
like the handler your rising Sun. It's like, you know,
you are this wild and fiery Aries, but wait, don't
act like that in public. Like for the first impression,
(49:19):
we're going to be controlled scorpios, so sort of the
mask you might wear how you first land with people,
Like we have a Capricorn rising, which is very different
than Sagittarius, but it's good sometimes it helps restrain the
sage a little and so it's but you learn how
to make all those it's like a recipe. You learn
(49:40):
how to add the right proportions the ingredients in the
right places, right timing, and then you get all this facility.
Then you have superpowers, you know, because you're like, ooh,
I met someone. I know my Venus and Pisces is
gonna get swept away, but I know I have Saturn there.
So if that person Mars and lead out of long
term POTENTI Lars and Leo too. So she's probably a
(50:03):
hopeless romance. I hope she has a good partner. She
might be navigating, Like you know, I really want to
find someone that has that kind of peak you for
a connection, but I also need to make maybe they
need to be a little older than me. That's sadder
in too, so you can you can start to like
let these things to get literally analyze this for like
(50:23):
really fun. And that's why we like to talk to
the person.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Just because it goes back and they're.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Like, oh, you know what, that's so funny. My longest
term partner was twenty years older than me. We'll hear
something or like, oh we were I was with my
high school you know, boyfriend for ten years and we
almost got married. You know, you hear things that validate
and then it just comes back. It's not you're not
cheating in astrology, it's like you start to explain the
(50:51):
person and then they make sense to themselves. They're like,
I've been carrying this around. Now that's the best. The
best astrologers won't want you to be dependent, right, They
want you to just be empowered by them, not yourself.
Even if you come back to check on some things.
It's like if you have a toolbox. We all have
a toolbox here in the chart, but if you know
(51:11):
how to use even if you only pick up the
hammer and drill the first time, there's a whole you know,
it's like something to come away with.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
And so that's the main page.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
And then the rest that they've been given is that
just in detail descriptions.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, the planet positions, Yeah amazing, Yeah, Oh I see
that there's an asteroids. Yeah, yeah, the asteroids people like,
you know, go beyond the planets and add those into Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
So, thank you so much. I'm gonna get back down.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
What I'll do is I'll try online share her reaction
to oh cool.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
I can tell her that she has what's called a
grand trine to a grand fire. Try and you see
this tryang, Yeah, here, if we look at the degrees,
that is this sort of unbridled spirit. Now it's like
this unchecked the planet's really flowing in harmony with each other.
She has Jupiter and Mars okay, the Sun and Ari
(52:04):
it's a fire try and the Sun and Aries, which
is you know how she's her main character energy. She
has her Mars and Lea, which is fight, you know,
brash in, and then Jupiter, which is luck and Sagittarius.
So when she's into something, when she gets I make
money abroad.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Well, apparently she is obsessed with astrology, always wants to know.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
You know, south note. The last thing she should definitely
know is that her past life sign, her south note
isn't Taurus, and her north node Destiny son is in Scorpio,
which is mystery. So yeah, learning, well, there you go.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
That's definitely that I had some questions that came here.
I can take these. Yeah, I had some questions that
came in from the audience. You've actually answered a lot
of them.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
But one of the questions I thought was interesting was
if you have a C section, does it change the
child's astrology?
Speaker 1 (53:00):
No, because I did. I think that it doesn't matter
how a child comes into the world, their exact moment,
their first breath, c section, pre MEI whatever, it doesn't matter,
you know. I was there like when a minute okay,
cancer rising?
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good to honestly the rest of
them free will we discussed if you don't know the
exact time, you said, you can only have a certain
amount of information, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
But just enough, but a lot. There's an astrologer and
they'll help you sort it out.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Okay, Oh my gosh, amazing. All these other questions we've
already answered it. Okay in a conversation, Thank you so much.
You want people to know about astrology, that we could.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Talk a little bit about more about twenty twenties.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yes, I would love to Actually, I would love to know.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
I would love to know the specific themes and things
that you think people should be in detail, if possible,
doing avoiding starting.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
There's going to be a big identity shift for everybody
next year when Saturn and Neptune together in aries. But
we've kind of gotten warmed up to it this year.
We're all going to need to be really clear about
what we will and won't do next year, very like
we kind of twenty twenty five. People were a little
more like shell shocked a little by changes yea, And
(54:16):
now twenty twenty six it's like, I'm just going to
be a hard no to this. This does not work
for me. I think there'll be a lot more local
community organizing. URAN is the planet of communities going to Gemini,
so people are going to form their own I think
it's a great year for independent media podcasting URAN. It's
also rules technology in Gemini. It hasn't been in Gemini
(54:39):
since the nineteen forties, which was a peak time of
innovation and also coincided with World War Two, but the
economy was never better. So there's a lot of pros
and cons, but it is definitely this AI thing is
definitely here to stay. In Yeah, and humanism. It's going
to be weird. It's going to be a weird year
(55:01):
and for sure, But on a personal level, I think
people are going to feel like I have me in
a way that we haven't before. Venus the Planet of
Love is going retrograde in the town relationship side, Yeah,
from October third to November thirteenth, So it might actually
bring because relationships are really I mean, I feel like
(55:23):
you and Jay are kind of a rarity right now.
A lot of people are struggling to find relationships. Yeah,
We're at a time where people are going to want
to not sacrifice their individuality just to be part of
a community, to be part of a relationship. There's even
British Vogue just did an article about, like, is having
(55:43):
a boyfriend embarrassing?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Now?
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Like that it's cringey to talk about, which is a
little It's like it was humple goals was the hashtag
last year. Now it's cringe. But I think what's happening
more and more is that people are just like what
you know, we we want to be who we are.
We don't want to lose that in order to be
part of groups, companionships, units. So we're really exploring a
(56:08):
lot of paradox. Yeah, in the second half of the year,
the lunar nodes are changing. The first half of the year,
they're in Pisces and Virgo, so we're in this very
like pondering everything, like it's a great.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Is this the right thing to do?
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, it's very like foggy. All of this year has
also been that the North note has been in Pisces,
which is like putting this cloud, but like the South
note in Virgo, so self care, wellness, really just coming
back to our bodies is more important than ever. But
then halfway through the year the South note goes into
Leo and the North goes into Aquarius, and I think
that's going to bring a lot of social change, bringing
(56:51):
back like leaders who are you know, honorable and for
the people again Yeah eight oh, I wasn't that one Oma? Yeah,
I feel like he's coming back that prediction.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
That's a let's go, let's come on. Thank you guys
so much. It's so pretty.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
So looking forward to read this book on my flight.
I want to hear all the predictions for my future.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
We're all in there. Thanks for having us on such
a great conversation.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
It really was answered all my questions.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
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