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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. Good
morning everyone, and welcome to Morning Run. It is Tuesday,
December tenth. I'm Amy Robot.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And I'MTJ Holmes and on the run. This morning, they
got him. The gunman who killed the United Healthcare CEO
was caught in Pennsylvania thanks to a McDonald's employee.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Turns out the shooter is a former valedictorian and Ivy
League grad whose friend describes him as humble and kind.
Police believe though they are zeroing in on his motives.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Also this morning, anger and applause, different reactions in the
courtroom after a jury acquittal, and the subway chokehold killing
case that sparked national protests.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Dismissal or disclosure. Jay Z wants his accuser publicly identified
and if not, says the whole case should be dismissed.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Making a statement without saying a word. Beyonce's mom's like
on social media had people wondering what she really thinks
about the accusations against her son in.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Law, and Matt Gates quit Congress, withdrew consideration as Attorney
General and is now headed to an anchor desk near you.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
And also this morning, we have lost a national treasure.
Acclaimed poet Nikki Giovanni has died at the age of
eighty one, and we are going to honor her with
our quote of the day today that you don't want
to miss this. One's good any old time, but especially
in these current times. So looking forward to sharing that
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with you. But we do begin our run though. In Altoona, Pennsylvania,
police have charged twenty six year old Luigi Mangioni with
second degree murder for the shooting death of United Healthcare
CEO Brian Thompson in New York last week.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Mangioni was also charged with possession of a loaded firearm,
possession of a forged instrument, and criminal possession of a weapon.
That forged instrument is the fake New Jersey license. Police
say he used to check into the hostel on the
Upper West Side the night before the murder.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
He also had a ghost gun in his possession that
police describe as consistent with the weapon used in the murder.
Police believe it may have been made using a three
D printer.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Mangioni was on a Greyhound bus traveling through Altoona when
he got off walked into a McDonald's restaurant, and that
is when a McDonald's employee recognized him from all those
images that were circulated by police over the past couple
of days and then notified authorities.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And Maggione also had a three page handwritten document the
police says speaks to his motivation and mindset. His writings
reportedly mentioned United Healthcare by name, saying and I quote
these parasites had it coming end quote. Also had something
that said, I do apologize for any strife and trauma,
but it had to be done.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Police also recovered a mask that was consistent with what
the suspect was seen wearing at the scene of the crime.
And right now they believe Mangioni acted alone, but are
still working to trace all of his movements from New
York to Pennsylvania. Now.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
United Health Group released a statement saying, our hope is
that today's apprehension brings some relief to Brian's family, friends, colleagues,
and the many others affected by this unspeakable tragedy. We
think law enforcement and will continue to work with them
on this investigation. Mangioni's arrest and murder charge happened on
the very day Thompson was buried in his home state
of Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
He will remain in custody in Pennsylvania while he awaits
extradition back to New York, which leads us further down
our run with more answers on just who this alleged
gunman is.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, his last known address was in Honolulu, where he
was arrested last year for trespassing in a Hawaii state park.
He pleaded no contest, paid one hundred dollars fine. Other
than that, he seems to have a clean record, no
other arrests.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That's right. Emanngioni was born and raised in Maryland. He
was the valedictorian of his private high school in Baltimore.
The Gilman School put out a statement saying that Mangione's
suspected involvement in this case is deeply distressing news on
top of an already awful situation. Our hearts go out
to everyone affected. Now.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Mangioni comes from a prominent Baltimore family, whereas late grandfather
was a renowned really state developer who owned country clubs,
nursing homes, a radio station. Maggioni went on to become
an Ivy leaguer, graduating kum Laud from the University of
Pennsylvania in twenty twenty, earning a bachelor's and master's degree
in engineering.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Now. While he was at Penn a classmate Toll Reporters
Mangioni belonged to their group of Ivy leaguer gamers who
played assassins in a game called among Us, where players
are secretly assigned to be killers in space. He then
worked as a data engineer for online car marketplace Truecar, Inc.
Up until last year.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And one of his high school classmates said that Maggioni
was an incredibly intelligent, humble, and kind person who was
a very bright guy with a bright future. However, a
Good Reads account that authorities believe belongs to Maggioni left
a four star review on Ted Kaczinski's Industrial Society and
Its Future that is more commonly referred to as the
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Unibomber Manifesto.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
In addition to the four stars, his written review ends
with this now chillin quote, violence never solves anything is
a statement uttered by cowards and predators. After his arrest,
the Mangioni family released a statement through his cousin, who
happens to be a Maryland state delegate. His name is
Nino Mangioni saying, quote, our family is shocked and devastated
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by Luigi's arrest. We offer prayers to the family of
Brian Thompson, and we ask people to pray for all involved.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Two things that quote of his, and we want to
remind you all stick around for the bottom of our
morning run because we have a quote from Nikki Giovanni
that flies in the face and completely challenges this one,
suggesting that violence never solves anything as a statement uttered
by cowards and predators, that's pretty chilling to hear.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yes, I'm going to prefer our quote of the day
to the quote of a accused killer.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And we should also what are we going to do
with the McDonald's employee. There is a reward for helping
capture now, I think you've seen before, all of us.
There's some fine print. Usually they say a ten thousand
dollars or fifty whatever reward. I really hope they'd give
it right now to this employee.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, there is a sixty thousand dollars reward. I think
that's what it was up to. But it's not just
for information leading to the arrest. It also has to
lead to the conviction of the accused killer. So but
this employee went above and beyond. I mean, that's a
scary thing to have to say. I think this is
the guy they pick up the phone, call the police
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and know that you're the one who's calling in authority.
So yes, we certainly hope that that employee get.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Rewarding right now, is it the fine prant? Well, we
have to wait for the actual reviction. No, I did
my job and I helped you find the person you wanted.
Give me my money. It's in y'all's hands now to
convict him. Totally agree your issue, So please you all
send that check to that with Donald's employee. All right,
I want to continue the run now. With a controversial
verdict here in Manhattan, former US Marine sergeant Daniel Penny
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was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide after using
a choke hold to restrain a homeless man on a
New York City subway.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The victim, thirty year old Jordan Neely, had a history
of mental illness, and after the verdict was announced, his
father told reporters that the system is rigged, saying, quote,
come on, people, let's do something about this. The judge
had already dismissed a more serious charged against Penny, that
was manslaughter in the second degree. After jurors came back twice,
they were deadlocked deliberating on that charge for three days.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
When prosecutors admitted, yes, Neelie came on the train. He
was loud, he was angry, even threatening in some of
his behavior as he shouted. He was hungry, thirsty, and
wanted to be sent back to jail. However, they told
jurors that Penny used deadly physical force as he grabbed
Neelie from behind with there his arm around his neck
for longer that was necessary.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, Penny choked Neely on the floor for nearly six minutes,
after the train had already pulled into the station and
after passengers had already left the car. Penny's lawyer argued
that his client held Neely until he knew he was
no longer a threat, and he said, quote what happened
May first, twenty twenty three was not a choke death.
He was controlling mister Neely's body, not choking him.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Now, this this killing made national headlines to divided people
who saw this as a black white issue. Neelie is
black and he was the victim of a white man
who may he call a white vigilante, and now here
we are not He's not being held responsible for Neeli's death.
Neelie's family attorney said after the verdict that for everyone
who's pissed off about this verdict, his words, he said,
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I challenge you to go outside today and help one person.
That's how we beat the system. That's how we turn
this around by being there for one another. That is
I wasn't expecting that that was powerful, but that was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah. His father, Yeah, his father was so upset by
the verdict. The judge actually told him to leave the courtroom.
But I mean, this is a father who lost his son.
At the end of the day, we're all human beings here.
So yes, to have that powerful statement by the attorney,
I thought that was beautiful. It gave me chills to
hear it, because, yes, this is a divisive issue and
there are no winners in this moment.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Example that many would point to is a lack of
value put on a black life. This is a young
man who clearly has some struggles. Fine, someone arguably killed him.
No one though, is being held responsible for the death.
Though this continues that theme, but well done by the attorney.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. Next up on a run,
jay Z wants his accuser publicly identified and has asked
a judge to force her to reveal herself or dismiss
the case altogether. Now, this woman has only been identified
as Jane Doe when she's accused Jay along with Sean
Diddy Combs, of drugging her and then taking turns assaulting
her at an MTV Music Video Awards after party back
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in two thousand. So she was allegedly thirteen at the time.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And the accuser are also said another unidentified female celebrity
stood by and watched the assault happen on This particular
lawsuit was originally filed in October and only named Sean
Combs as a defendant, but it was updated Sunday refile
to include jay Z, whose real name is Sean Carter.
Jay Z strongly defended himself in a link the first
(10:00):
person statement against the allegations yesterday, calling them heinous and idiotic.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So in this new filing yesterday, jays attorney says, quote
fair is fair, and he wrote this, mister Carter deserves
to know the identity of the person who was effectively
accusing him in sensationalized publicity hunting fashion of criminal conduct,
demanding massive financial compensation, and tarnishing a reputation earned over decades.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Jay Z's attorney cited previous Sean Combe's accusers who have
been forced to reveal their identities because courts ruled their
cases did not meet the criteria for proceeding anonymously. Now
we have no word on when a judge might rule
in this motion by Jay Z.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Now we've talked about this because in criminal cases, of course,
you want to make sure that victims feel comfortable and
safe coming forward making accusations. And I understand the reason
for anonymity in that. But when you're bringing a civil
case that you are clearly seeking financial compensation for, I
don't think it's a wrong thing to ask, Hey, if
you're going to put my name out there for a
(11:02):
financial game, why can't you actually stand behind your accusations
in the civil proceedings. It's different than a criminal situation.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
What you just cited is exactly what courts have said
in some of these cases that some of these folks
who are suing Diddy, even you don't have enough of
a case necessarily. That's so strong that warns it. So
if you just want to throw out loose allegations and
throw this out and ruin someone's entire reputation, you're going
to have to publicly stand.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
By for a financial game. Yes, yes, I have to
agree with that all right. For his part, jay Z
had a very public outing with his family last night.
So he along with his wife Beyonce his daughter Blue Ivy,
were on the red carpet for the premiere of Mufasa.
Beyonce and Blue Ivy both have starring roles in the movie,
and so it was a huge show of support without
really even having to say anything.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's kind of this guy is notoriously famously doesn't do press.
Jay Z just doesn't, doesn't have to, doesn't indeed just
does not go out there and do press. To see
that lengthy statement from him yesterday in his own words,
I haven't heard him say that much in years. And
then to come out he smiled. They were smiling, just
like the.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Smiling No, but Beyonce and flu Ivy were smiling smiling
hip hop No, I don't know, he rarely smiles.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I should have say, but it was to your point
without saying a word. Now, someone else who was with
them in the family outing was Beyonce's mom, and she
had everybody talking. And this was a story you said
had to get in the run. Now you were fascinated by.
Now she was on the red carpet last night with everybody.
But this was all after her verified Instagram account yesterday
(12:37):
she had seemed to like an Instagram post from ABC
seven Chicago that detailed the allegations against her son in law. Yes,
it looked like Tina Knowles, Beyonce's mom, liked a post
about her son in law jay Z's accusations. Tina Knowles
now says she got hacked.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's right. So hours after her alleged like Nole's posted
on Instagram, I was hacked. As you all know, I
do not play about my family. So if you see
something uncharacteristic of me, just know that it's not me.
And she captioned this post, please stop playing with me.
No weapon formed against my family shall prosper quoting a
Bible verse there.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It wasn't incredible, Like you said, they didn't have to
say anything, but given the day jay Z had on Monday,
these allegations are horrific. Horrific and to see the whole
family like we rarely.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
See this standing there with all those reporters, all those
cameras flash, miling.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Big like a proud papa. I mean, hey, and so
is this a part of a grandeur strategy or a
plan or I'm sure they would have done that anyway.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It would have been worse if he hadn't showed up. Obviously,
that is.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That, And maybe that's the point. Maybe that's the point.
All right, folks, stay with us here on this Morning Ron.
Matt Gates is teaching us all a lesson and how
to do a career pivot. Welcome back. We will continue
our Morning Ron on this Tuesday with former Florida Congressman
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Matt Gates. He is pivoting now to his third potential
career path. In a matter of weeks, he's expected to
announce he's joining One America News Network. This would be
a huge win for this network. It's a far right network.
They don't have necessarily a big name roster at this point.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
That's right. The network has become one of the more
extreme pro Trump news outlets and has had to direct
its fans in recent years to stream the network online
because It was dropped by DirecTV back in twenty twenty two,
and then other major distributors have been let's say, reluctant
to carry its programming.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Gates had hinted that he was going to have a
new gig. He had an interview earlier after he withdrew
his name from consideration for Attorney General. He announced he
would not be returning to Congress either after winning re election,
So he could have gone back to Congress, he said,
though I'm still going to be in the fight, it
is going to be from a different new perch.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The network is known for giving airtime to conspiracy theories
that support Trump. They even worked with Russian operatives on
a documentary during Trump's first impeachment back in twenty nineteen,
and Gates retreated from political life after bipartisan pressure and
the possible release of a House Ethics Committee report detailing
a three year investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct and
(15:24):
illicit drug use by Gates.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I stopped and went back and reread which you said
that they worked with Russian operatives on a documentary.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yep. And I went back and checked that because that
also really shocked me a little bit, just to be frank.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It will remind you that Gates says all allegations, and
so far Republican Committee members have continued to vote against
releasing that report to the public. Now that Gates is
no longer a member of Congress. But to your point,
a lot of we go from this career or that
career in a matter of might take years. He's hit three.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Pretty big one in like three weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Right Congress to a potential cabinet member. It's now a
news anchor on a place that does documentaries with Russian operatives.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It's fascinating, it is all right.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And the final leg of our run kind of sank
down in the seat a little bit upon getting this
news that renowned poet and absolute national treasure Nikki Giovanni
has died at the age of eighty one.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Giovanni died peacefully yesterday with her lifelong partner Virginia by
her side, according to a statement release by one of
her good friends. Giovanni, you may remember, rose to prominence
during the civil rights movement, publishing her first book of
poetry back in nineteen sixty eight, and quickly put herself
on the map for a career that would lead to
her becoming a black arts movement icon well.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
She was born in Tennessee, raised in Ohio, attended Fisk
University in Nashville, and eventually joined the faculty at Virginia Tech,
where she taught for thirty years before retiring in twenty
twenty two. And she really put a stamp on her
time at the school. After the mass shooting there in
two thousand and seven, in which thirty two people were ill.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
She rallied the student body with a rousing original piece
that she delivered at a convocation to memorialize the victims,
in which she repeated that phrase, and we've heard it
so much over the years, we are Virginia Tech, and
it became a rallying cry. If you haven't seen it,
we urge you to look it up today in honor
of her and take a listen.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I don't know if you saw me get up a
short time ago, quietly and I walk into the bathroom.
I got a tissue to get. I listened to it.
You just can't help but get tears in your eyes.
You just get chill. She rallied this whole student body
at a time that they really really needed, and the
way she did it and her little. She's kind of
a little bitty thing. She hired these little short, cropped
hairstyles she always wore, but she just looked powerful even
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in that, even in that frame. And one line from
that particular speech, this is why you know. I love quotes.
But people are so the poets, this is what they do.
We are strong enough to stand tall, tearlessly. We are
brave enough to bend to cry, and sad enough to
know we must laugh again.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Like good Lord, how could I have chills from head
to toe?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's what she stole told a student body that was
suffering from thirty two of their friends and colleagues being
gunned down. Now throughout her time at Tech, she actually
I'm adding this note about the shooter, but she was
so afraid of him. She complained and said she wanted
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him removed from her class, like there were enough signs.
But we always say there's signs that are missed. But
she had complained about that shooter that scared her enough,
I will not teach him.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And that reminds me of a quote from Maya Angelou
who said, when people show you who they are, believe them.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Wow, it's not But that was she really did put
a stamp on her time through all that tragedy. But
she retired from TIE a couple years ago. She kept working.
She actually won an Emmy this year for Documentary Filmmaking
for her film Going to Mars, the Nikki g Money Project. Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And she has a final book that is scheduled to
still be released sometime next year posthumously. Now, but we
get to continue to hear and read the wisdom from
this incredibly wise woman. And just in case you were
wondering how she passed, the New York Times is reporting
it was from complications from lung cancer.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So yeah, a national treasure eighty one years old. But
what a life lived. And we mentioned earlier there was
a quote of the day that we were going to
include that that is from her, and I believe she
told this to NPR. I think they reported she gave
this to them several years ago. But it is a
good one, and think about it as you go about
your day.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's right. Killing is a lack of creation, it is
a lack of imagination. It's a lack of understanding who
you are and your place in the world. Life is
an interesting and a good idea.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's why they're poets, right.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Isn't that such an incredible contrast to what we heard
from this alleged killer from New York City and implying
somehow that choosing peace is cowardice, that it flies in
the face of what you hear from this incredible woman.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
That's wonderful. So to take that with you as a
reminder we can use it every day, but certainly now
that killing is a lack of creation, it's a lack
of imagination, it's a lack of understanding who you are
in your place in the world. Life is an interesting
and a good idea. So with that, folks, enjoy your Tuesday.
We always appreciate you going along or run with us.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
On TEJ and I'm Amy Robot. Have a wonderful day.