November 15, 2025 • 22 mins
Congress voted to open the government, and at the same time, voted to close your favorite weed shop. A last-minute provision tucked into the just-passed government funding bill could potentially wipe out a multi-billion dollar industry and deprive you of your favorite THC gummies, vapes, edibles, creams, etc. Stock up. Now.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, there are folks. It is Saturday, November fifteenth, and
did you catch it? In that bill that Congress signed
to reopen the government, they actually closed your favorite weed shop.
And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Robes.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is a shocker, and folks better stock up right now,
run out, get all the gummyes you can.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
There are so many of us who have grown accustomed
now to legalized THHC products, marijuana products that are regulated
that you know what you're getting and can be, according
to a lot of doctors, a safer alternative to alcohol
in many regards, and so a lot of this is
a booming industry and we've gotten comfortable.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
There's a dispensary.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Pretty much as many like on every block, as much
as there are Starbucks now here in New York City,
and they're beautiful and nice, and you have to go
through all of the extensive.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Like moments of you got to hand your idea. It's
all legal.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It all feels clean and nice and not dirty and
gross in backdoor and black market, and that's what it
used to be like, right when folks are trying to
get marijuana, and so it's yeah, it's been elevated and
legalized and actually convenient.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Okay, well, Congress just shut it all down, folks. This
is not this is not being alarmist. This is not
just writing a click baity headline. Yes, when the government,
when Congress voted to reopen the government, in that bill,
there was something else in there that effectively eliminates the
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marijuana or the hemp, the THHC, the gummy industry that
everybody has grown to become accustomed to too that you
just talked about ropes. This is a bill that was
supposed like everybody's paying attention to it. We see so
many times if things get tucked in there, something will
slid into some bill last minute, and this is one
of those things. What was the other one we talked
(02:06):
about that five hundred thousand dollars they could they gave
themselves permission to sue. This is something else now that
was slid in there. We don't exactly know who, and
nobody's taking responsibility. But folks, what it does is close
a loophole in the Farm Bill from twenty eighteen that
now would make all of your favorite gummies, edibles, baked goods, vapes,
(02:27):
thac infused beverages topical oils creams obsolete. They would be
illegal if this thing goes into effect. I guess the
one upside robes is that it's not going into effect immediately.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yes, it's supposed to take effect in one year. And
this hidden provision, yes, criminalizes nearly all consumable.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Hemp products across this country. Doesn't matter what state you
live in.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Doesn't even matter if you live in Colorado, probably the
most hemp friendly state in this country.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You are all and we are all under.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
This same ban, this provision, So it prohibits products here's
the specific language that contain more than point four milligrams
of THHC per items. To give you an example, most
products contain fifty to one hundred milligrams per container, so
a single edible typically is five to ten milligrams. Again,
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this ban, or this the measure that was put in
the bill, only allows point four milligrams of THHC. That
pretty much eliminates every single product on the market right
now that these dispensaries are selling.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And a question why would they do this? Some wonder,
I don't know what, question why this was the moment
to do this? But rogues I when we talk about
the Republicans and Democrats trying to blame each other, trying
to see who comes out with a political advantage during
the shutdown. They're worried about who's going to get blamed,
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who's gonna get blamed now for taking away everybody's weed
tac gummies like this. This was buried, it's coming out now.
But folks, what we are talking about, these are folks.
Look people like to get high. We know folks got
something in to pocket, something in the system all day long. Fine,
but there are a lot of folks, and older folks
in particular, this is an alternative, an alternative to a
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lot of medicines. And this is not just about people
who just want to get high, correct.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I mean, yes, of course there's the recreational users, but
there are medicinal users and folks rely on this if
you have cancer treatments, if you have a lot of issues,
auto immune disorders.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
If you have chronic pain.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Marijuana and hemp has been a safe alternative to a
lot of drugs and fewer side effects. Some would argue,
so this is going to have serious implications for folks
who just like to have fun and folks who actually
are trying to take away pain or try to This
can be an appetite stimulant. There are a lot of
reasons why it is is something that doctors have prescribed
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and have actually preferred to other traditional medicines, or even
like I said, people will turn to alcohol. Instead of
avoiding alcohol, you can turn to marijuana as a safer alternative.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So I mean, at this point, we really don't know.
So we got a year. The argument a so why
make it a year where they're trying to give maybe
the industry an opportunity and time to pivot to adjust.
But there are some who tell you there is nothing
we can't adjust too. There was a way one hemp
producer put it, this is an extinction level event. This
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industry cannot continue with the way it is. However, Robes
it is not just a matter they give them a
year to And this is what called me down. And
I say call me down not because I'm going to
be in some way harmed if the hemp industry goes away.
But this is a multi billion dollar industry, almost thirty
billion dollars a year in this country.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And there's a lot of jobs, yes, three thousand jobs.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So the thing that they put us is it's not
a year until the band goes into a place. I said,
look at it like this, it's a year for us
to figure out how to properly regulate this industry.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And let's hope that's true, because yes, I think everybody
in terms of especially when you're dealing with a substance
that can do harm and do good, you want to
have regulations. I think that's what makes people feel safe
going into a dispensary, is they're not just they don't
they know what they're getting, and that feels better than
obviously what other people have turned to in the black market.
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But you mentioned twenty eight point four billion dollar industry
in this country. We meant three hundred thousand jobs. This measure,
if it is allowed to take effect, will wipe out
ninety five percent of the industry and will cost states
one point five billion dollars in tax revenue. Think about
the tax revenue the states that have legalized marijuana now
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in THHC.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
They are bringing in billions.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Of dollars collectively. And there is one senator who sounded
the alarm. I did see this actually right before they
voted on the measure to reopen the government. I actually
didn't think it was going to stay, and Senator Ran
Paul was refusing to sign the bill because of this
hidden measure. He wanted to take the language out of
the Senate bill, but the Senate overwhelmingly voted against Senator
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Paul's amendment to try and take this out. So there
are a lot of you know, lawmakers who are up
for reelection. They believe their constituents don't want legalized marijuana
in their states, and so a lot of these senators
presumably voted with.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That in mind.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I don't know where the debate is going on, right
they I mean, yeah, maybe in their districts. They need
to be seen as being anti marijuana if you will,
and I know a lot of folks will point to
this as some kind of a gateway drug where it
leads to problems in people's lives and they can't function
during the day. Look, those things are legit, but it's
got to be balanced out in some way. You can't
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just and I don't think they will as we looked
into this more. Yes, this is real, folks. If they
don't do something, every all of it's going away. If
they don't do something, I have to believe they're going
to do something about this. Yes, I just don't understand
why this was necessary in this moment. Maybe this is
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something that wouldn't have normally gotten approval, and you slide
it in here now, last minute during an emergency. Who's
going to vote against it? Now kind of a thing
because we've got to get the government reopened. This is
just the timing of this is shitty.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, And there was too much on the line for
them to get hung up on something like this. And again,
as Congress typically does, they kick the can down the
road and say we'll deal with this later. But I
can't imagine what it's like if you have invested. I
just think about all the dispensaries that have opened up.
We can only speak here it to New York City,
but we actually know some of the folks who they
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family businesses. This is they have put their investments into
these companies that are now in limbo, and that's got
to be a very scary thing. One of the dispensary
owners I plucked a quote because I just thought it
was so well put. He said, the widespread ramifications of
killing an entire industry that brings in this much money,
that employs this many people. That brings that kind of
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relief to that many people.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's kind of a dirty trick to pull on folks,
especially so quickly. Most people did not see this coming.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, no, they claim they do, and I want to
I mean, I want to say folks are doing it
in good faith or have their hearts in the right place.
And some people do believe this is something that kids
shouldn't have as much access to. This isn't something that
most Americans should have that easy access to for whatever reasons. Yes,
doctors might feel differently, individuals might feel differently. I'm trying
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to at least not These aren't bad actors necessarily, and
the timing is bizarre, But if folks have a legit reason,
then this is a debate we should have now at
this moment to do that. So now to your point
about that the dispensaries stressing out, Yes, a whole industry
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for a year for what.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I mean, Yeah, I was just trying to imagine. You
can't pivot. There is no other alternative for these folks.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So that's tough, and it, I don't know, it reminds
me of prohibition when you have our government try and
whatever their morality is whatever they think is right or wrong,
and they're trying to impose that now on the country
as a whole. A lot of folks argue, a lot
of senators have argued this, and it has been a
state by state issue. Let the states decide what is
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right for that community because it is different. Think about
the difference between a state like Texas and a state
like Colorado. I mean, they just have very different opinions
on how to view this specific industry.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And let that be the case.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
But to have a federal, you know, widespread ban on
this is just gutting. There's no other way to put
it for these folks.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And that's what we talk about the stock market in
this a lot of time. But what do they hate?
Uncertainty they now for the next year, Like, how can
you plan out your your your supplies, how can you
plan out your rent, your lease, your employees. You can't
do anything because based on what they did, everybody needs
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to right now be winding down and getting ready to
shut down their businesses in a year.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, and look, it makes me a little concerned about
what the debate is going to be. We heard from
Senator Mitch McConnell and his big point was, Hey, these companies,
these dispensaries have exploited this loophole on the twenty eighteen
Farm bill.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And he said, by.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Taking legal amounts of THHC from hemp and turning it
into intoxicating substances. This was not intended to create a
consumable pot market.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But here we are now, But it was an unintended consequence.
Here we are. Are you really going to take it
all back? You're gonna shut down, hey, multi billion dollars industry. Okay,
look he feels that way. Wasn't he the head of
very much bearheading the farm bell Yes, Mish McConnell. Yes,
So the guy who gave this to us is now
trying to take it away.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And they say that So this loophole, they say, have
fueled the quote rapid growth of an underregulated industry that
threatens public health and safety and undermines law enforcement nationwide. Okay,
So I think all of us would be in favor
of a regulated market, a more regulated market.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Tax it, tax the heck out of it.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
This, you know, I think that's great if we can find,
you know, some positives, make sure that's safe, make sure
it's uniform. People know what they're getting and states benefit
it benefit from it financially. So people can benefit from
it medicinally and states can benefit from it financially.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
But yes, regulation is important and key to all of it.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But folks, stay here, some of you all, I guess
most of us at this point no what the impact
the effects of marijuana could be. But there are some
side effects they list as well. One in particular jumped
out at us. We'll share that with you also. As
many of you will know, Amy Robock has an oncologist.
Wait until you hear what she told her patient, Amy Roboch,
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about using marijuana and alcohol given her health. Stay here,
all right, folks, we continue here on this Saturday, November fifteenth.
I do believe it is maybe some of you are
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on the way to your weed shop now and stocking up.
You left the house during the commercial break there so
you could and look, some people are telling you absolutely
stock up on everything you can because we don't know
what's going to happen. Yes, the provision tucked into that
continuing resolution that reopened the government is actually going to
close down of actively the marijuana industry in this country
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ropes date. So I'll go ahead, you trying to jump.
Oh no, you're about to say something.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh no, I'm I'm actually laughing at just how easy
it's become. You can order gummies, beverages that are enhanced
with THHC, pretty much any kind of THHD product here
in this city. Uh, you go online, it's delivered to
your front door. I mean, they this has been a
huge evolution in accessibility and.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And just again the uniformity.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
If you know you're getting their specific brands, it all
feels legal, nothing feels scary or wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And look, I don't know. I mean I get some
of the.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Arguments about they don't want this introduced to folks. As
you mentioned, potential gateway drug. I heard that all growing
up my whole life. You know, marijuana is a gateway drug.
But then what about alcohol? I mean, I just I
feel where does it end? Where does it stop? How
do you how do you police what people choose to
use to make themselves feel better?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Period?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You police it by sneaking this provision into a government
spending bill. I was there with you. Look, we've been
trying for and we have cut back on alcohol. There's
nothing out there that comes out that says one drop
of alcohol is good for you. We all know there's
no safe amount of alcohol.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
There is no safe amount.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Let's just cut back and that has been good and
healthy for us and we feel better and all that's great.
I was with you in one of your doctor's appointments
in which she was I don't think she was getting
onto you at the time, but talking about your health
and moving forward and what you should put in your body.
You told she was asking you how much alcohol. Her
answer didn't surprise me about the alcohol. I was surprised
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at just how much of a cheerleader and advocate she
was for marijuana.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yes, she said.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
She was like Amy, put down the glass of wine
at night, pop yourself a marijuana gummy. It is significantly
less risky for you to do that, to unwind at
the end of the night than it is to have
any kind of alcohol as a breast cancer survivor. And
so there is an absolute link between alcohol consumption and
breast cancer recurrence and breast cancer just in general, a
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lot of cancers. There is a direct correlation between drinking
and cancer period and so it's really interesting when your
oncologist tells you enjoy a gummy. You know, obviously nothing
in excess, but in moderation, this is a much safer
alternative for you amy to have a marijuana gummy than
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it is for you to have a margarita.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So yeah, it's not just a matter we have to
say that. Sometimes people make jokes and I saw a
couple clever headlines and the rioting industry going up in
smoke and stuff like that. It's okay, fine, we get
all that, but this is much more to this and
what this can do and the health of the country
that is going to impact. Because you have people on
both sides saying this will be good for the health
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of the country. Some will say it'll be bad for
the health of the country. The answer has to be
somewhere in between. But I'm okay with the regulation. You
speak up if we see it that way. But why
couldn't we say that. Why couldn't we say, hey, guys,
we are going to come up with a way to
regulate this industry. We're going to introduce a bill to
do so, and then we can all debate about it.
You just told them we're going to shut it down.
(17:14):
There is no alternative right now, there is no We're
going to shut it down and then we'll talk and
they're just shut it down.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, it's happening, and it's interesting too. I just this
is just I'm telling you, it's so interesting the trends.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
And I don't know that they've done a widespread study
on this, but I just know from Anali's who is nineteen,
she's got a lot of friends who's moms, and they
all say, oh, my mom loves this gummy or that gummy.
It's become instead of who used to hear, oh a woman,
you know, in the afternoon to online having a glass
of wine and watching, you know, a show. Now you
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have people popping a gummy and going about their day
and just being a little bit more cheerful, a little
bit more relaxed, a little less anxious. And I've just
heard from so many people my age it's trending significantly.
So I have a feeling people are going to be
in an uproar about this being now illegal and unavailable, yep,
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because I don't think a lot of people have heard
about this. This is just recreational, This is just you know,
just to relax whatever. But this is actually very beneficial
for a lot of folks. According to WebMD, if you
think about what THC can do. It can control vomiting
for folks undergoing chemotherapy, reduce pain for people who have
nerve damage, cancer, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It can reduce muscle.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Spasms in folks who have MS. It improves sleep for
people who have sleep issues. It can increase I mentioned
the appetite for people who have HIV and AIDS, people
who just need to be eating. It can reduce ticks
in people who have Tourette syndrome. It can reduce anxiety
in people who have social anxiety disorder, and it improves
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symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder. So there are really
it's so interesting me that it's been so vilified when
there are so many benefits.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And you think about any drug.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
And I have been on plenty of them through my
cancer treatments, they all have side effects. This has the
least amount that I can imagine having taken anything else
for pain management or for anxiety, for any of the
other issues that can come up when you have a
chronic illness.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, all those things you listed the benefits of them,
I mean you listed ten plus things over right over there.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And the other one is it can reduce your stress level.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You worried about your bills, You worried about your lights
getting cut off, you worried about them coming to repo? Yoka,
go ahead, Papa.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Gummy, It's just not going to matter. You just won't
be a stressing It gives you instant perspective. I will
tell you.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I kind of chuckled because they list the side effects
in web MD.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Among them euphoria.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That's a side effect.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That's a relaxation.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, side effect.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Now the bad one is impaired memory. There can be confusion,
poor muscle coordination. So I guess you could potentially more
likely to fall dry mouth.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But they listed those together side effects, so a negative, right,
it's supposed to be euphoria, Yes.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Side effects Euphoria it says strong sense of happiness.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Or well being.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's a side effects.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's a side effect.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Altered senses, brighter colors, stronger odors, so you have a
sharpened you have sharpened senses then, or yeah you do,
You're everything's kind of triggered in his Yes, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Those commercials, those uh prescription drug commercials where they say, ah,
there's somebody's sitting on a hill. The sun and the
pool and all that stuff. And they always have to
legally list the side effects because diarrhea, cramping and all
kinds of suicide.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Effects could include euphoria, a strong sense of happiness or well.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Imagine listing that on a marijuana.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Also possible relaxation or sleepiness.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What makes you forgetful?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
It does?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It can make you forgetful, impaired memory and thinking, confusion
and disoriented.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It could cause you to forget your problems. It's another
way to put it. Hey, anyway, this was an interesting one.
This I would wager. Now they will fix this, find
a way to fix it, and maybe they will make
the industry better. The other part of that, if it
gets better, it gets more regulated, then it might get
more expensive, it might be in shorter supply. But I
don't think it's a bad thing to have better regulation.
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I just hate that they did this last second, sneak
it in there, and the industry is like what the yeah? What?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Like the one dispense free owner said it was a
dirty trick, and it was a hidden, dirty trick. So
we hope they fix it. You know that we're going
to keep our eye on this. This is something that
we will be following, but we wanted to make sure
you knew about it because a lot of folks have
no clue that this got slipped into that spending though,
so we will keep you updated, but for now, thank
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you so much for listening to us, every one. I
made me Robock alongside TJ. Holmes, have a great weekend bacation.
Hey, there are folks. It is Saturday, November fifteenth, and
did you catch it? In that bill that Congress signed
to reopen the government, they actually closed your favorite weed shop.
And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Robes.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is a shocker, and folks better stock up right now,
run out, get all the gummyes you can.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
There are so many of us who have grown accustomed
now to legalized THHC products, marijuana products that are regulated
that you know what you're getting and can be, according
to a lot of doctors, a safer alternative to alcohol
in many regards, and so a lot of this is
a booming industry and we've gotten comfortable.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
There's a dispensary.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Pretty much as many like on every block, as much
as there are Starbucks now here in New York City,
and they're beautiful and nice, and you have to go
through all of the extensive.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Like moments of you got to hand your idea. It's
all legal.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It all feels clean and nice and not dirty and
gross in backdoor and black market, and that's what it
used to be like, right when folks are trying to
get marijuana, and so it's yeah, it's been elevated and
legalized and actually convenient.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Okay, well, Congress just shut it all down, folks. This
is not this is not being alarmist. This is not
just writing a click baity headline. Yes, when the government,
when Congress voted to reopen the government, in that bill,
there was something else in there that effectively eliminates the
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marijuana or the hemp, the THHC, the gummy industry that
everybody has grown to become accustomed to too that you
just talked about ropes. This is a bill that was
supposed like everybody's paying attention to it. We see so
many times if things get tucked in there, something will
slid into some bill last minute, and this is one
of those things. What was the other one we talked
(02:06):
about that five hundred thousand dollars they could they gave
themselves permission to sue. This is something else now that
was slid in there. We don't exactly know who, and
nobody's taking responsibility. But folks, what it does is close
a loophole in the Farm Bill from twenty eighteen that
now would make all of your favorite gummies, edibles, baked goods, vapes,
(02:27):
thac infused beverages topical oils creams obsolete. They would be
illegal if this thing goes into effect. I guess the
one upside robes is that it's not going into effect immediately.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yes, it's supposed to take effect in one year. And
this hidden provision, yes, criminalizes nearly all consumable.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Hemp products across this country. Doesn't matter what state you
live in.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Doesn't even matter if you live in Colorado, probably the
most hemp friendly state in this country.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You are all and we are all under.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
This same ban, this provision, So it prohibits products here's
the specific language that contain more than point four milligrams
of THHC per items. To give you an example, most
products contain fifty to one hundred milligrams per container, so
a single edible typically is five to ten milligrams. Again,
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this ban, or this the measure that was put in
the bill, only allows point four milligrams of THHC. That
pretty much eliminates every single product on the market right
now that these dispensaries are selling.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And a question why would they do this? Some wonder,
I don't know what, question why this was the moment
to do this? But rogues I when we talk about
the Republicans and Democrats trying to blame each other, trying
to see who comes out with a political advantage during
the shutdown. They're worried about who's going to get blamed,
(04:00):
who's gonna get blamed now for taking away everybody's weed
tac gummies like this. This was buried, it's coming out now.
But folks, what we are talking about, these are folks.
Look people like to get high. We know folks got
something in to pocket, something in the system all day long. Fine,
but there are a lot of folks, and older folks
in particular, this is an alternative, an alternative to a
(04:23):
lot of medicines. And this is not just about people
who just want to get high, correct.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I mean, yes, of course there's the recreational users, but
there are medicinal users and folks rely on this if
you have cancer treatments, if you have a lot of issues,
auto immune disorders.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
If you have chronic pain.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Marijuana and hemp has been a safe alternative to a
lot of drugs and fewer side effects. Some would argue,
so this is going to have serious implications for folks
who just like to have fun and folks who actually
are trying to take away pain or try to This
can be an appetite stimulant. There are a lot of
reasons why it is is something that doctors have prescribed
(05:02):
and have actually preferred to other traditional medicines, or even
like I said, people will turn to alcohol. Instead of
avoiding alcohol, you can turn to marijuana as a safer alternative.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So I mean, at this point, we really don't know.
So we got a year. The argument a so why
make it a year where they're trying to give maybe
the industry an opportunity and time to pivot to adjust.
But there are some who tell you there is nothing
we can't adjust too. There was a way one hemp
producer put it, this is an extinction level event. This
(05:37):
industry cannot continue with the way it is. However, Robes
it is not just a matter they give them a
year to And this is what called me down. And
I say call me down not because I'm going to
be in some way harmed if the hemp industry goes away.
But this is a multi billion dollar industry, almost thirty
billion dollars a year in this country.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And there's a lot of jobs, yes, three thousand jobs.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So the thing that they put us is it's not
a year until the band goes into a place. I said,
look at it like this, it's a year for us
to figure out how to properly regulate this industry.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And let's hope that's true, because yes, I think everybody
in terms of especially when you're dealing with a substance
that can do harm and do good, you want to
have regulations. I think that's what makes people feel safe
going into a dispensary, is they're not just they don't
they know what they're getting, and that feels better than
obviously what other people have turned to in the black market.
(06:31):
But you mentioned twenty eight point four billion dollar industry
in this country. We meant three hundred thousand jobs. This measure,
if it is allowed to take effect, will wipe out
ninety five percent of the industry and will cost states
one point five billion dollars in tax revenue. Think about
the tax revenue the states that have legalized marijuana now
(06:51):
in THHC.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
They are bringing in billions.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Of dollars collectively. And there is one senator who sounded
the alarm. I did see this actually right before they
voted on the measure to reopen the government. I actually
didn't think it was going to stay, and Senator Ran
Paul was refusing to sign the bill because of this
hidden measure. He wanted to take the language out of
the Senate bill, but the Senate overwhelmingly voted against Senator
(07:18):
Paul's amendment to try and take this out. So there
are a lot of you know, lawmakers who are up
for reelection. They believe their constituents don't want legalized marijuana
in their states, and so a lot of these senators
presumably voted with.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That in mind.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I don't know where the debate is going on, right
they I mean, yeah, maybe in their districts. They need
to be seen as being anti marijuana if you will,
and I know a lot of folks will point to
this as some kind of a gateway drug where it
leads to problems in people's lives and they can't function
during the day. Look, those things are legit, but it's
got to be balanced out in some way. You can't
(07:53):
just and I don't think they will as we looked
into this more. Yes, this is real, folks. If they
don't do something, every all of it's going away. If
they don't do something, I have to believe they're going
to do something about this. Yes, I just don't understand
why this was necessary in this moment. Maybe this is
(08:14):
something that wouldn't have normally gotten approval, and you slide
it in here now, last minute during an emergency. Who's
going to vote against it? Now kind of a thing
because we've got to get the government reopened. This is
just the timing of this is shitty.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, And there was too much on the line for
them to get hung up on something like this. And again,
as Congress typically does, they kick the can down the
road and say we'll deal with this later. But I
can't imagine what it's like if you have invested. I
just think about all the dispensaries that have opened up.
We can only speak here it to New York City,
but we actually know some of the folks who they
(08:48):
family businesses. This is they have put their investments into
these companies that are now in limbo, and that's got
to be a very scary thing. One of the dispensary
owners I plucked a quote because I just thought it
was so well put. He said, the widespread ramifications of
killing an entire industry that brings in this much money,
that employs this many people. That brings that kind of
(09:11):
relief to that many people.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's kind of a dirty trick to pull on folks,
especially so quickly. Most people did not see this coming.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, no, they claim they do, and I want to
I mean, I want to say folks are doing it
in good faith or have their hearts in the right place.
And some people do believe this is something that kids
shouldn't have as much access to. This isn't something that
most Americans should have that easy access to for whatever reasons. Yes,
doctors might feel differently, individuals might feel differently. I'm trying
(09:43):
to at least not These aren't bad actors necessarily, and
the timing is bizarre, But if folks have a legit reason,
then this is a debate we should have now at
this moment to do that. So now to your point
about that the dispensaries stressing out, Yes, a whole industry
(10:03):
for a year for what.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I mean, Yeah, I was just trying to imagine. You
can't pivot. There is no other alternative for these folks.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So that's tough, and it, I don't know, it reminds
me of prohibition when you have our government try and
whatever their morality is whatever they think is right or wrong,
and they're trying to impose that now on the country
as a whole. A lot of folks argue, a lot
of senators have argued this, and it has been a
state by state issue. Let the states decide what is
(10:32):
right for that community because it is different. Think about
the difference between a state like Texas and a state
like Colorado. I mean, they just have very different opinions
on how to view this specific industry.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And let that be the case.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
But to have a federal, you know, widespread ban on
this is just gutting. There's no other way to put
it for these folks.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And that's what we talk about the stock market in
this a lot of time. But what do they hate?
Uncertainty they now for the next year, Like, how can
you plan out your your your supplies, how can you
plan out your rent, your lease, your employees. You can't
do anything because based on what they did, everybody needs
(11:16):
to right now be winding down and getting ready to
shut down their businesses in a year.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, and look, it makes me a little concerned about
what the debate is going to be. We heard from
Senator Mitch McConnell and his big point was, Hey, these companies,
these dispensaries have exploited this loophole on the twenty eighteen
Farm bill.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And he said, by.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Taking legal amounts of THHC from hemp and turning it
into intoxicating substances. This was not intended to create a
consumable pot market.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But here we are now, But it was an unintended consequence.
Here we are. Are you really going to take it
all back? You're gonna shut down, hey, multi billion dollars industry. Okay,
look he feels that way. Wasn't he the head of
very much bearheading the farm bell Yes, Mish McConnell. Yes,
So the guy who gave this to us is now
trying to take it away.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And they say that So this loophole, they say, have
fueled the quote rapid growth of an underregulated industry that
threatens public health and safety and undermines law enforcement nationwide. Okay,
So I think all of us would be in favor
of a regulated market, a more regulated market.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Tax it, tax the heck out of it.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
This, you know, I think that's great if we can find,
you know, some positives, make sure that's safe, make sure
it's uniform. People know what they're getting and states benefit
it benefit from it financially. So people can benefit from
it medicinally and states can benefit from it financially.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
But yes, regulation is important and key to all of it.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But folks, stay here, some of you all, I guess
most of us at this point no what the impact
the effects of marijuana could be. But there are some
side effects they list as well. One in particular jumped
out at us. We'll share that with you also. As
many of you will know, Amy Robock has an oncologist.
Wait until you hear what she told her patient, Amy Roboch,
(13:19):
about using marijuana and alcohol given her health. Stay here,
all right, folks, we continue here on this Saturday, November fifteenth.
I do believe it is maybe some of you are
(13:41):
on the way to your weed shop now and stocking up.
You left the house during the commercial break there so
you could and look, some people are telling you absolutely
stock up on everything you can because we don't know
what's going to happen. Yes, the provision tucked into that
continuing resolution that reopened the government is actually going to
close down of actively the marijuana industry in this country
(14:02):
ropes date. So I'll go ahead, you trying to jump.
Oh no, you're about to say something.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh no, I'm I'm actually laughing at just how easy
it's become. You can order gummies, beverages that are enhanced
with THHC, pretty much any kind of THHD product here
in this city. Uh, you go online, it's delivered to
your front door. I mean, they this has been a
huge evolution in accessibility and.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And just again the uniformity.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
If you know you're getting their specific brands, it all
feels legal, nothing feels scary or wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And look, I don't know. I mean I get some
of the.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Arguments about they don't want this introduced to folks. As
you mentioned, potential gateway drug. I heard that all growing
up my whole life. You know, marijuana is a gateway drug.
But then what about alcohol? I mean, I just I
feel where does it end? Where does it stop? How
do you how do you police what people choose to
use to make themselves feel better?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Period?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You police it by sneaking this provision into a government
spending bill. I was there with you. Look, we've been
trying for and we have cut back on alcohol. There's
nothing out there that comes out that says one drop
of alcohol is good for you. We all know there's
no safe amount of alcohol.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
There is no safe amount.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Let's just cut back and that has been good and
healthy for us and we feel better and all that's great.
I was with you in one of your doctor's appointments
in which she was I don't think she was getting
onto you at the time, but talking about your health
and moving forward and what you should put in your body.
You told she was asking you how much alcohol. Her
answer didn't surprise me about the alcohol. I was surprised
(15:45):
at just how much of a cheerleader and advocate she
was for marijuana.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yes, she said.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
She was like Amy, put down the glass of wine
at night, pop yourself a marijuana gummy. It is significantly
less risky for you to do that, to unwind at
the end of the night than it is to have
any kind of alcohol as a breast cancer survivor. And
so there is an absolute link between alcohol consumption and
breast cancer recurrence and breast cancer just in general, a
(16:09):
lot of cancers. There is a direct correlation between drinking
and cancer period and so it's really interesting when your
oncologist tells you enjoy a gummy. You know, obviously nothing
in excess, but in moderation, this is a much safer
alternative for you amy to have a marijuana gummy than
(16:29):
it is for you to have a margarita.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So yeah, it's not just a matter we have to
say that. Sometimes people make jokes and I saw a
couple clever headlines and the rioting industry going up in
smoke and stuff like that. It's okay, fine, we get
all that, but this is much more to this and
what this can do and the health of the country
that is going to impact. Because you have people on
both sides saying this will be good for the health
(16:53):
of the country. Some will say it'll be bad for
the health of the country. The answer has to be
somewhere in between. But I'm okay with the regulation. You
speak up if we see it that way. But why
couldn't we say that. Why couldn't we say, hey, guys,
we are going to come up with a way to
regulate this industry. We're going to introduce a bill to
do so, and then we can all debate about it.
You just told them we're going to shut it down.
(17:14):
There is no alternative right now, there is no We're
going to shut it down and then we'll talk and
they're just shut it down.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, it's happening, and it's interesting too. I just this
is just I'm telling you, it's so interesting the trends.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
And I don't know that they've done a widespread study
on this, but I just know from Anali's who is nineteen,
she's got a lot of friends who's moms, and they
all say, oh, my mom loves this gummy or that gummy.
It's become instead of who used to hear, oh a woman,
you know, in the afternoon to online having a glass
of wine and watching, you know, a show. Now you
(17:50):
have people popping a gummy and going about their day
and just being a little bit more cheerful, a little
bit more relaxed, a little less anxious. And I've just
heard from so many people my age it's trending significantly.
So I have a feeling people are going to be
in an uproar about this being now illegal and unavailable, yep,
(18:14):
because I don't think a lot of people have heard
about this. This is just recreational, This is just you know,
just to relax whatever. But this is actually very beneficial
for a lot of folks. According to WebMD, if you
think about what THC can do. It can control vomiting
for folks undergoing chemotherapy, reduce pain for people who have
nerve damage, cancer, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It can reduce muscle.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Spasms in folks who have MS. It improves sleep for
people who have sleep issues. It can increase I mentioned
the appetite for people who have HIV and AIDS, people
who just need to be eating. It can reduce ticks
in people who have Tourette syndrome. It can reduce anxiety
in people who have social anxiety disorder, and it improves
(18:58):
symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder. So there are really
it's so interesting me that it's been so vilified when
there are so many benefits.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And you think about any drug.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
And I have been on plenty of them through my
cancer treatments, they all have side effects. This has the
least amount that I can imagine having taken anything else
for pain management or for anxiety, for any of the
other issues that can come up when you have a
chronic illness.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, all those things you listed the benefits of them,
I mean you listed ten plus things over right over there.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And the other one is it can reduce your stress level.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You worried about your bills, You worried about your lights
getting cut off, you worried about them coming to repo? Yoka,
go ahead, Papa.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Gummy, It's just not going to matter. You just won't
be a stressing It gives you instant perspective. I will
tell you.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I kind of chuckled because they list the side effects
in web MD.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Among them euphoria.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That's a side effect.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That's a relaxation.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, side effect.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Now the bad one is impaired memory. There can be confusion,
poor muscle coordination. So I guess you could potentially more
likely to fall dry mouth.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But they listed those together side effects, so a negative, right,
it's supposed to be euphoria, Yes.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Side effects Euphoria it says strong sense of happiness.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Or well being.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's a side effects.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's a side effect.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Altered senses, brighter colors, stronger odors, so you have a
sharpened you have sharpened senses then, or yeah you do,
You're everything's kind of triggered in his Yes, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Those commercials, those uh prescription drug commercials where they say, ah,
there's somebody's sitting on a hill. The sun and the
pool and all that stuff. And they always have to
legally list the side effects because diarrhea, cramping and all
kinds of suicide.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Effects could include euphoria, a strong sense of happiness or well.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Imagine listing that on a marijuana.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Also possible relaxation or sleepiness.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What makes you forgetful?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
It does?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It can make you forgetful, impaired memory and thinking, confusion
and disoriented.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It could cause you to forget your problems. It's another
way to put it. Hey, anyway, this was an interesting one.
This I would wager. Now they will fix this, find
a way to fix it, and maybe they will make
the industry better. The other part of that, if it
gets better, it gets more regulated, then it might get
more expensive, it might be in shorter supply. But I
don't think it's a bad thing to have better regulation.
(21:27):
I just hate that they did this last second, sneak
it in there, and the industry is like what the yeah? What?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Like the one dispense free owner said it was a
dirty trick, and it was a hidden, dirty trick. So
we hope they fix it. You know that we're going
to keep our eye on this. This is something that
we will be following, but we wanted to make sure
you knew about it because a lot of folks have
no clue that this got slipped into that spending though,
so we will keep you updated, but for now, thank
(21:53):
you so much for listening to us, every one. I
made me Robock alongside TJ. Holmes, have a great weekend bacation.
Hosts And Creators
Amy Robach
T.J. Holmes
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