August 24, 2023 • 30 mins
"I Wanna Sex You Up" was featured on Glee's third episode but did Color Me Badd really want their biggest hit on a new show?
CMB's Mark Calderon joins Kevin and Jenna to spill all, including why the band said "yes" to Glee, what he thought of the cover, and how his high school days were similar to the show!
Plus, Mark reveals how the group got their first big break thanks to Bon Jovi, but you won't believe what legendary band took them under their wings! It's a Kool story you won't want to miss!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And That's what you Really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. This
is really fun. This is really fun. We have a
very special guest today, nineties icon Mark Caldron from Color
Me Bad. I Want to Say You, which was ugly
(00:34):
in the Acafellas episode, and we get to chat with Mark.
He's such a wonderful, lovely human. What a great artist,
what a great singer. This is a great interview and
it's he's just really joyful and it's I don't know,
I had a great time Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The fact that we're getting to like talk to like
I want to sex you up. And all these songs
were on the radio when we were growing up. Like
these artists, I know added to sort of the songbook
of our lives. You know, it's I distinctly remember this
being on the radio all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I learned all these artists from my brother who've probably
listened to this right now, Oh saying, you know, I
had influences upon influences to influence me in a different way.
So cool. Yeah, yeah, this is really cool. I really
like digging into these these musical artists and having them
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on and hearing their their journeys, because we are so
grateful to be the glorified cover band that we were
with our amazing producers who created these awesome, brilliant covers.
But like this is this is the these are the
pioneers and the and this is the origins, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The stories.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And also he has some weirdly similar connections to high school. Yes,
like the glee club. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wonderful? Thank you guys. Oh man, so nice to be
invited to this. This is great.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Thank you for joining us. It's not very honored.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yes, I've got I've got I've got to look cool,
so y'all don't mind if I throw in the shade,
do you you do?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I love it. It's so nice to meet you.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Likewise, pleasure, pleasure, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, thanks very taking the time to come on and
chat with us. It's very exciting. We've started bringing on
the artist, the true artist. We always say, like you know,
we were on all of these, like you know, charts
and making records, but like you guys are the real
artists that we're we have like the gift of covering.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We were a glorified cover band. You are the actual
source for anything that we got to do.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I'm gonna say this, and I watched you guys show.
You know, I've seen them. I didn't see all the episodes,
but i've seen them a few of them, and you
guys do amazing job. And I'm telling you the way
you guys arranged the choreography, the music, the vocals, I mean,
you guys just really do an amazing job. So you know, in.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Respect, thank you. That's our music producers.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, we had a full army. We got to take
credit for it, you know, we got to be in
front of the camera being like, yes, we did all
of this, but it was hundreds of people behind the scenes.
As you know, it takes an army to get things made.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Did you ever take that on tour like the Glee did?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Ok yeah, we did two tours.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Nice, but we were shooting. You know, we were filming
ten months out of the year and so on the
two months off, we take one of those months and tour.
So it was pretty a pretty tight schedule and pretty crazy,
but it was really fun, really really fun.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, we got to have the little glimpse of what
you get to experience, you know all the time, you.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Know, I mean, you guys are the actors. Man, you
guys get to the you know, the world, see you, guys.
And I'm sure Lee was all over the world, right,
is that right?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You go?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, So I want to hear all about like calling
me bad, the history of it, your high school experience.
But tell us about when Glee came to you or
to your wraps and you were brought this opportunity to
put the you know, I want to sex you up
on the episode. Do you remember like what they said
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to you, how much context did they give you? Because
this was very early on in the show too.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
This is only.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Three episodes, two episodes, so.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Guys, it was really simple. I just I just got
an email, an email from you guys, and I was like, Glee,
I like that show, signed off on it. Man. It
was wow.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You put a lot of trust in the in the process.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You have good instinct, I think, you know, I think
a lot of people would have gotten that request early
on in the show and be like I don't know
what this is, you know, like who knows what they're
going to do with the song? And I mean we
filmed the pilot. Obviously you don't know if the show
is going to get picked up and go forward. But
I remember Ryan Murphy talking to us about how he
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wanted the teachers and sort of the guys to form
this band early on, and I know, you guys your
music was one of the first things that he was
talking about to us, if the show gets picked up,
we want to do this song and this song and
this song. And I just thought, what because I come
from sort of a boy band history myself, and like,
(05:42):
you guys are singers, right, And he was having like
real music singers represented in this very early on and
made me very happy. Did you ever see our version
of the song like what they got to do? Because
I was just watching it this morning he was like,
I feel like they did it justice on my opinion.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But I loved it the sex you Up version. Yes, yeah, man,
you guys, I'm telling you, you guys got the you
guys got. Was he the principal, the principal?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Everybody was imagined.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The coach, We got a couple of coaches, we got
the glee club teacher, we got the prince, so we
got everybody in there.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, guys, it was great. Are you kidding, yo. You
killed at the arrangement, the choreography, the vocals. It was great.
It's very entertaining, you know. I loved it. Yeah, And
it was funny how how y'all are trying to impress
who was it? Josh? You are trying to press him,
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which he loved the whole thing with him and the
principle was funny. But that's good. That was good stuff. Man.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You just never know, you know, like we were on
those stages and you're doing the songs and you never
know if the artist is going to love it, like it,
and like obviously we wanted the artists to like everything
we were doing, but you just never know.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeahmen, thumbs up up. Y'all killed it. Y'all killed it.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We're glad that you're happy. That's all we get hope
for absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And y'all did an a cappella too, you know, so
hey there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Okay, So I hear you. Guys? Were you were in
acchoir in high school?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And was that like, when did the band come to be?
You guys met in high school? Is that right?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yes? We did, Yeah, we met in ninth grade. I
met Brian in the hallways there at Northwest class in
Oklahoma City, and I was in my mode of you know,
I thought I was the greatest singer at that time,
and I learned real quick that I wasn't. So when
I heard his vocals, it just pretty much blew me away.
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And I had just came from singing with my brothers
and sisters in a group that you know, we just
sort of went our own ways and you know, that
kind of fell apart. But I was in that mode,
like we got to get something going here. So when
I met Brian and I heard him sing, I was like,
you know, instead of me singing against this guy, let
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me sing with this guy. And there, yeah, he brought
in his friend, I brought in my friend Sam and Kevin,
and we kind of just started blending our voices together,
learning harmonies. I knew that getting in choir would just
you know, get my voice stronger and learn harmonies at
that time, and so that's what we did. Sam and
I we joined the choir where Brian and Kevin was
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already in and there that's whenever we trained our vocals
and learned harmonies. And we went from there, man, we
formed our group there. You know in that choir, and
we did all them songs. We did a bunch of like,
oh man, all the classics like Fiddler on the Roof
and you know, all the great theater shows and and
(09:09):
from there, you know, we just started singing like fifties
do on because that's what we had, and blending our
harmonies and singing in schools and the girls. That was it.
It was because of the girls, the girls, and we
sang for the girls, and they loved it and we
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loved that, and so we continued.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, whatever gets him motivated. Everybody also happened to be talented,
so it worked out.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Right, Yes, it did. Yeah. So there was a Levi's
Fible one blues commercial that was really popular at that time,
and I don't know if you guys remember it. It
went like string two feed and a bud Tom And
we learned that commercial. We sang it for the talent
show there at Northwest class and we just continued on
(10:00):
with that.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Man, that's awesome. What what were you personally like in
high school? Were you cool? Were you uncle? What? What
was your Did you belong to a clique group?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I thought I was cool, but I don't know if
I was that cool. Yeah, But I was real kind
of shy. I was an average student, three point student.
I worked really hard for everything that I got, all
my grades. I really wanted to be a good student man,
and you know, but music was my love and you know,
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and making it becoming doing something big. I had just
seen the Victory Tour Michael Jackson and his brother and that, yeah,
and that blew me away, and I was like, I
want to do that, you know. But so, you know,
in high school, meeting up with the guys, you know,
just trying to make it and try to figure out
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how can we do that? Being here in Oklahoma City.
There's no industry here, there's no you know, record record
executives or producers. What are we going to do? How
are we going to figure this out? So what we
used to do was all the big acts that used
to come through Oklahoma City to do concerts, we would just
stalk them down and find where their buses were. After
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the show. We would find out where they were the hotels,
whatever hotels they were staying at, and we would catch them,
you know, as they were walking into the hotel or
walking into the venue, and we would stop them and
just start singing and hopefully that you know, somebody would.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You know, hustle the hustle man. There was no social media,
no YouTube. People couldn't post themselves singing. There was no
you know, justin Bieber fame, you know, being found that way.
That was the way to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's the only way. And we got a lot of
great leads like you know, we got a chance to
sing with Huey Lewis and the News up in his
hotel room, you know, I love and John bon Joey.
We stopped him him coming out of a movie theater
in Oklahoma City right before his concert, and he was
we blew him away with our vocals and he was like, man,
(12:08):
you guys open up the concert tomorrow night. And so
we were thinking, how we call your bluff? How are
we going to do acapella songs in front of eight
thousand rockers? You know it's gonna work, And believe it
(12:29):
or not, man, it really came off. They loved it.
And the best part of that was after we had
stopped singing, the lights came on and John bon Jovi
and Richie comes out, vibes, hugs and twenty thousand people
just going nuts. Man, so that night we got dates
that next weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I bet you did.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You better have Yeah, I bet you did.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Oh good man, what's crazy is I was going to
ask you if I think you just answered the question
of it because and glee obviously, the kids who were
in the glee club are not the most popular. They
get made fun of and bully for being the glee club.
You guys were inquire, but at the same time you
were hustling on the side opening up for bon Jovi.
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So I imagine your experience in high school in post high
school when you're doing this was quite different than I imagine.
It wasn't so much you guys were looked down upon
because you were singing.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That's all we had was our vocals, you know, And
it wasn't our looks we had, you know, we weren't.
We weren't the jocks, you know, hearing the football and
the basketball players. No, we had our vocals, and people
respected that what we were doing singing a cappella with
the harmonies. People didn't hear that during those days, you know, right.
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So it was such a unique sound and we were
able to really make a big, you know, splash there,
you know. But we got a lot of respect, man,
from from not only the kids, but from the principal
and the teachers and all that, and everybody really, you know,
encouraged us to do something with it. Our parents they
weren't always supportive, you know, because they were like, god,
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you know, job, the job, go to college and that.
But you know, we were like, we're gonna go with
our hearts. You know, this is our dream. You get
one chance in life.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Mm hmm, it's happening.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We're gonna give it our best shot. And that's what we.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Did, man, And you did it, and you're signed so
smart about it too, because something about acapella and when
you're good at it, it's undeniable where you're just out there, raw,
exposed with the ability or not. You either got it
or you don't. And so it's interesting to me that
in high school and how the principal, like the staff,
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the kids, everybody appreciated respected it because you're not relying
on any gimmicks. That's why you can go, you know,
the next night on a stage in front of twenty
thousand people and blow them away because you actually had
the ability to do it. The skills we knew.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
We knew we were good after we did, and I'm
not just saying that we were good. And you know,
you know at that time, you know, you had the
new Kids on the Block that was doing really well
on the radio and New Addition, and you know, everyone
loved those groups, and you know, but we knew we
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had something to offer also, and we wanted to do
what they were doing. It was just trying to find
that that bridge to crossover to make that happen. And
it was actually cool in the gang who actually took
us under their wings. You know, they wanted us to
wait till like we graduated from high school, you know,
to hit that eighteen year old mark, because they wanted parents.
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So that's what happened, and they took us to New York.
After that, we stayed in the bedroom apartment and we
got turned down by every record label. Everybody turn us
down down there. Yeah, and it was Cassandra Mills from
Giant Records who took a chance on us. And it
was because of our song that we had written called
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Iador Mia More and that became one of our number
one hits. So that was it, man, that's you know,
I mean, you know, you wonder when you put work
into something and you know, hard work and you stay
with it, man, you can make it happen. It's just
sticking with it, you know, and just be you know
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what I'm say, y'all know this, you guys and everything
you guys have done. Y'all know the hard work, y'all
know the hustle.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So that's right, it is what's important to remember that
all you need is one yes. You know. It's like
you work so hard on something you know you're good,
and then nobody else sees it, and it feels like
you're crazy. Everybody's crazy. No one sees this. We know
we're good, and then you just get that one yes,
one yes, man, and then you just rack up a
bunch of number ones, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I mean, you know, it's crazy how that can happen.
It's almost like it was destined for it to happen,
you know what I mean. You just see so many
people as long as you put in the hours of
the hard work, it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Right in high school, how did you meet up with
cool the gang? How did that connection happen? Was that
another one of those we're going to stock you up
for you?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah? Yeah, kind of so they had this campaign going
on called, uh, It's cool to Stay in school. Okay,
they were coming in concert and they were going to
throw a party for all the kids who had perfect attendance,
It's cool to stay in school. Well, that party was
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during school, so we had a skip school to make
it to that it's cool to stay in school at
a party.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, So so we were playing hooky that day, but
it was well worth it because that's how we got
our break. And we snuck into the party and when
it was our turn to guess get an autograph, we
just started singing and we caught everybody's attention and from
there they introduced us to their road manager at the time,
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who ended up becoming our manager, and that's kind of
how it all happened from there.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah. So I Want to Sex You Up was one
of your first singles, right, and it's spent a lot
of time on the charts. Tell can you like talk
about what that was like for you after all this hustle,
after all this time and work to like actually see
it come to fruition, Like, what was that like for
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you guys?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, you know, it was so crazy because we couldn't
see it happening because we were so busy and everyone
would tell us, Hey, we heard your song on the radio,
we heard your song in the movie. And it really
didn't hit me until I remember we were coming out
of a radio station in Los Angeles and it was
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an early interview, like six am. We were coming out
and some guy just come flying down the road in
his car blasting our song. And I was like, oh, wow,
playing this song.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I mean, you know he saw it in the wild.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, yeah, And and and That's when I knew that
that that it was really happening. And then we took
a trip to London and there was a lot of
girls there at the airport waiting for us, and I'm like, wow,
that's crazy. Made it. Then people across the pond know
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who we are, and then we get top of the pops,
you know, at.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That amazing it was.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It's great, man, it was. It's a really great time
in our lives. But it happens so fast sometimes you
just didn't know you were going through it.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Sure, Yeah, we feel that resonates a lot. We get
asked out a lot too, like when did you know
the show? Was like, you don't, You're just working, You're
just doing what's asked of you, and you don't. You
feel feel almost insulated from the success of it, and
you're sort of seeing or experiencing that in the wild
moment where you see somebody interacting with whatever you're doing
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and you're able to watch it happen, and it's very surreal.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, very real experience, very real, very surreal. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You've been through a lot with the band, with your
whole success. I mean, you've been doing this for so long.
Now you're twenty one, you have just had I know,
I'm kidding, what advice, knowing what you know now, would
you give your younger self that high school kuld, you know,
putting in the hustle.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You know, I always say this to myself. I would
have learned an instrument. I can play guitar, but back
then I would have really I would have learned an instrument,
whether if it was guitar, piano, piano. Maybe I play
guitar right now, but piano would have been really nice.
You been able to produce a lot more. I wished
(21:26):
I would have written more songs like when your time
is happening and everything you write is being put on
the radio. I wished I would have written a dozen
more songs, you know. More importantly, now, I wished I
would have learned more Spanish, you know, you know, because
I could speak a little Spanish, but I wish I
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would have been you know, yeah, point, I wish I
would have learned that. That's what I would have told
my younger self. Also, I would have said, you know,
don't take this everything so hard, because I was so
nervous during those times. I remember a lot of stress.
You know, good enough, you know, are we gonna do good?
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It was just so much. I took myself through a
lot and I didn't have to, you know, you know,
you just take it step by step, you know, and
know that everything's going to work out. You just be
your best, you work hard, it'll all come together and
just like it, you know. And but yeah, those are
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you know, little.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Things are really good. Those definitely. Yeah. I wish I
had learned a language and played an instrument as well.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So yeah, yeah, it's so easy to be hard on
yourself when you're going through all that too. I really
you want perfection, but it's like you just got to
sort of trust and you're like, I admitted this far
surely I'll be all right when the time comes tomorrow
or whatever it is we're doing, you know, but it's
hard when you're and it's hard to separate yourself from that,
see it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It would be so hard to be a solo act
and go through all of that, man, because you don't
have anything to lean on. I did have the other guys,
so that helped a lot, you know, and and they
were always there for me, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
But you know, it's there are a lot of solo
artists that say, like touring is a very lonely place.
It's a really hard thing to go through on your own,
especially when you've made it bag and it's like you
can feel very ice, you can feel very isolated.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
It can be a lot of I mean, I know
a lot of people that experience what we had experienced.
You know, they go through counseling. Now now you know,
you know, I go through these counselings, but just because
of you know, there was one point in your life
where everyone loved you and want to take pictures and
now no one gets to damn about it.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
But yeah, sometimes you.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Go through that and you know, it's a mind game.
You know, you've got to know that, you know, things
change real fast, and this music industry changes so fast.
You know, it's crazter.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Than anything else in entertainment, anything else.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I don't know if I'm a fan of the way
everything is now. I know it gives a lot of
new artists a chance. With the Internet, social media, it
gives a lot of people a chance to put out
their music and get their stuff heard. But I don't know.
I don't know if I like it like this. I
think I like it better the other way, where record
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labels really pour into you and develop you and put
you with some great songwriters and blah blah blah and
kind of get you all together and put you out
there properly. The way it's not just throw you out
there and see if it happens. You know, I'm sure
there's a lot of great songs that I still haven't
heard to this day that just never got it shot.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, it is like a catch twenty two, isn't it?
Because it's it is amazing that so many people can
put out stuff from their bedroom and you get exposed
to all these potential great songwriters and artists they never
would have heard. But I have the same sort of
feelings sometimes where you want the money behind the songs
and the artists that so they can be heard by
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as many people as possible, because it's so hard to
make a record, it's so hard to get it heard.
And then now it feels like who it's the luck
of the draw, if you're if the algorithm shows it
to you or not.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You don't know if anyone's ever gonna hear the music.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's what you're counting on, is the algorithm, you know.
How about how about how the nas X You heard
his story? Yeah, oh yeah, he did it for fun,
the gonna take mine? He did it for fun. He
did as a joke, almost put it out there. He
woke up the next morning he had forty thousand downloads,
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you know, and he knew that he had something there.
So it just happens like that. But man, it's it's
it's tough, man. It's almost like a hitting the lottery
or something.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know. I feel like that too.
Reminds me of what you were saying about your guys
a story. Because he luckily was ready for the opportunity,
right he That thing randomly happened and then had one
of the biggest songs of all time, then has backed
it up with hits after hits and a great album.
You guys pulled yourselves together and then got this opportunity,
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got signed and then were ready or bon Jovi said
go on stage and do it, and you were ready. Yeah,
it's also about you know, who actually wants it who
as there's a difference between I have an idea for
a song and I'm gonna put it out and then
that I want this to be my life and my
career and I have a lot more to give.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Right, very very good, very good man.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Right on, Boyd with that no doubt you said you
saw the Michael tour, Like who else were your musical
inspirations growing up?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
You know, growing up in the eighties are the best?
In the eighties were the best. You know. One of
the great highlights of our career, believe it or not,
was opening up for Prints one time. We got Yeah,
and there's one song that Prince really loved of ours.
It was our first single from our second album called
(27:13):
Time and Chance, and he sent us, uh uh, he
sent us a telegram talking about how a telegram Right,
that's what we're going back. But he sent us a letter,
you know, to our agency about how he loved that record.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That was like, thank you, that's all we needed. We
can you know, loved one of your songs, that's all
it mattered. So yeah, so that was that was amazing,
you know. Wow. Yeah, man, So there's a.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Good stuff because you also got to, you know, work
with people and meet people that you probably looked up
to and idolized as a king in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
We did. We worked with David Foster on lots of songs. Yeah,
we did. We work with David Foster.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
He knows a good vocalist, you know, David.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I mean that guy is he's a genius. But you
know what's cool about David And sometimes he'll get in
the studio with you and he'll he'll look at you,
he's like, okay, y'all, guys have any ideas for this part?
You know, he'll actually bring you in to help oberation.
And that was the best. Man. You're like, David, you're asking.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Me, right, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis was amazing. They were amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I walked into a room a couple of months ago
and Jimmy jam was in there and I left. I
couldn't handle being in the same room because I didn't
know how to. I well walked in the room, I turned,
I gasped, and then walked out.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I love it. Man, Hey, he's the nicest guy. You
have to probably have to say something to him next time.
Greatest god man.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
People seemed like he was surrounded by people, and I
was like, good for you guys, I can't do this,
awesome dude. Cool.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Well, well, Mark, we's been such a pleasure chatting with you.
Such a wonderful human and what a great artist, And
thank you for sharing your art with everybody and your perspective.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, it was really grateful to have you on the show.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
And are you on the road right now? Can people
come see you?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah. We've probably done about fifty shows already
this year.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Go to color Mebad dot com you know for all
of our all of our shows, and man, come on out.
We have a great time. We sing all the songs.
I see everybody coming in with their nineties gear. Oh man,
they're singings, they're dancing.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, the best that were great?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Really?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Oh man, Well, thank you you Mark It's been a
pleasure talk with you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, enjoy the rest of your tour. Everybody go see
them like it sounds like a great time.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
It is, guys man. And when we come out there
to l A, you guys are gonna have to come definitely.
Yeah right, all right, guys.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, take care, take care, God.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Bless bye bye.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
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And That's what you Really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. This
is really fun. This is really fun. We have a
very special guest today, nineties icon Mark Caldron from Color
Me Bad. I Want to Say You, which was ugly
(00:34):
in the Acafellas episode, and we get to chat with Mark.
He's such a wonderful, lovely human. What a great artist,
what a great singer. This is a great interview and
it's he's just really joyful and it's I don't know,
I had a great time Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The fact that we're getting to like talk to like
I want to sex you up. And all these songs
were on the radio when we were growing up. Like
these artists, I know added to sort of the songbook
of our lives. You know, it's I distinctly remember this
being on the radio all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I learned all these artists from my brother who've probably
listened to this right now, Oh saying, you know, I
had influences upon influences to influence me in a different way.
So cool. Yeah, yeah, this is really cool. I really
like digging into these these musical artists and having them
(01:30):
on and hearing their their journeys, because we are so
grateful to be the glorified cover band that we were
with our amazing producers who created these awesome, brilliant covers.
But like this is this is the these are the
pioneers and the and this is the origins, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The stories.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And also he has some weirdly similar connections to high school. Yes,
like the glee club. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wonderful? Thank you guys. Oh man, so nice to be
invited to this. This is great.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Thank you for joining us. It's not very honored.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yes, I've got I've got I've got to look cool,
so y'all don't mind if I throw in the shade,
do you you do?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I love it. It's so nice to meet you.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Likewise, pleasure, pleasure, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, thanks very taking the time to come on and
chat with us. It's very exciting. We've started bringing on
the artist, the true artist. We always say, like you know,
we were on all of these, like you know, charts
and making records, but like you guys are the real
artists that we're we have like the gift of covering.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We were a glorified cover band. You are the actual
source for anything that we got to do.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I'm gonna say this, and I watched you guys show.
You know, I've seen them. I didn't see all the episodes,
but i've seen them a few of them, and you
guys do amazing job. And I'm telling you the way
you guys arranged the choreography, the music, the vocals, I mean,
you guys just really do an amazing job. So you know, in.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Respect, thank you. That's our music producers.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, we had a full army. We got to take
credit for it, you know, we got to be in
front of the camera being like, yes, we did all
of this, but it was hundreds of people behind the scenes.
As you know, it takes an army to get things made.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Did you ever take that on tour like the Glee did?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Ok yeah, we did two tours.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Nice, but we were shooting. You know, we were filming
ten months out of the year and so on the
two months off, we take one of those months and tour.
So it was pretty a pretty tight schedule and pretty crazy,
but it was really fun, really really fun.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, we got to have the little glimpse of what
you get to experience, you know all the time, you.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Know, I mean, you guys are the actors. Man, you
guys get to the you know, the world, see you, guys.
And I'm sure Lee was all over the world, right,
is that right?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You go?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, So I want to hear all about like calling
me bad, the history of it, your high school experience.
But tell us about when Glee came to you or
to your wraps and you were brought this opportunity to
put the you know, I want to sex you up
on the episode. Do you remember like what they said
(04:30):
to you, how much context did they give you? Because
this was very early on in the show too.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
This is only.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Three episodes, two episodes, so.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Guys, it was really simple. I just I just got
an email, an email from you guys, and I was like, Glee,
I like that show, signed off on it. Man. It
was wow.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You put a lot of trust in the in the process.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You have good instinct, I think, you know, I think
a lot of people would have gotten that request early
on in the show and be like I don't know
what this is, you know, like who knows what they're
going to do with the song? And I mean we
filmed the pilot. Obviously you don't know if the show
is going to get picked up and go forward. But
I remember Ryan Murphy talking to us about how he
(05:20):
wanted the teachers and sort of the guys to form
this band early on, and I know, you guys your
music was one of the first things that he was
talking about to us, if the show gets picked up,
we want to do this song and this song and
this song. And I just thought, what because I come
from sort of a boy band history myself, and like,
(05:42):
you guys are singers, right, And he was having like
real music singers represented in this very early on and
made me very happy. Did you ever see our version
of the song like what they got to do? Because
I was just watching it this morning he was like,
I feel like they did it justice on my opinion.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But I loved it the sex you Up version. Yes, yeah, man,
you guys, I'm telling you, you guys got the you
guys got. Was he the principal, the principal?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Everybody was imagined.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The coach, We got a couple of coaches, we got
the glee club teacher, we got the prince, so we
got everybody in there.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, guys, it was great. Are you kidding, yo. You
killed at the arrangement, the choreography, the vocals. It was great.
It's very entertaining, you know. I loved it. Yeah, And
it was funny how how y'all are trying to impress
who was it? Josh? You are trying to press him,
(06:41):
which he loved the whole thing with him and the
principle was funny. But that's good. That was good stuff. Man.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You just never know, you know, like we were on
those stages and you're doing the songs and you never
know if the artist is going to love it, like it,
and like obviously we wanted the artists to like everything
we were doing, but you just never know.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeahmen, thumbs up up. Y'all killed it. Y'all killed it.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We're glad that you're happy. That's all we get hope
for absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And y'all did an a cappella too, you know, so
hey there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Okay, So I hear you. Guys? Were you were in
acchoir in high school?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And was that like, when did the band come to be?
You guys met in high school? Is that right?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yes? We did, Yeah, we met in ninth grade. I
met Brian in the hallways there at Northwest class in
Oklahoma City, and I was in my mode of you know,
I thought I was the greatest singer at that time,
and I learned real quick that I wasn't. So when
I heard his vocals, it just pretty much blew me away.
(08:03):
And I had just came from singing with my brothers
and sisters in a group that you know, we just
sort of went our own ways and you know, that
kind of fell apart. But I was in that mode,
like we got to get something going here. So when
I met Brian and I heard him sing, I was like,
you know, instead of me singing against this guy, let
(08:23):
me sing with this guy. And there, yeah, he brought
in his friend, I brought in my friend Sam and Kevin,
and we kind of just started blending our voices together,
learning harmonies. I knew that getting in choir would just
you know, get my voice stronger and learn harmonies at
that time, and so that's what we did. Sam and
I we joined the choir where Brian and Kevin was
(08:46):
already in and there that's whenever we trained our vocals
and learned harmonies. And we went from there, man, we
formed our group there. You know in that choir, and
we did all them songs. We did a bunch of like,
oh man, all the classics like Fiddler on the Roof
and you know, all the great theater shows and and
(09:09):
from there, you know, we just started singing like fifties
do on because that's what we had, and blending our
harmonies and singing in schools and the girls. That was it.
It was because of the girls, the girls, and we
sang for the girls, and they loved it and we
(09:30):
loved that, and so we continued.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, whatever gets him motivated. Everybody also happened to be talented,
so it worked out.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Right, Yes, it did. Yeah. So there was a Levi's
Fible one blues commercial that was really popular at that time,
and I don't know if you guys remember it. It
went like string two feed and a bud Tom And
we learned that commercial. We sang it for the talent
show there at Northwest class and we just continued on
(10:00):
with that.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Man, that's awesome. What what were you personally like in
high school? Were you cool? Were you uncle? What? What
was your Did you belong to a clique group?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I thought I was cool, but I don't know if
I was that cool. Yeah, But I was real kind
of shy. I was an average student, three point student.
I worked really hard for everything that I got, all
my grades. I really wanted to be a good student man,
and you know, but music was my love and you know,
(10:37):
and making it becoming doing something big. I had just
seen the Victory Tour Michael Jackson and his brother and that, yeah,
and that blew me away, and I was like, I
want to do that, you know. But so, you know,
in high school, meeting up with the guys, you know,
just trying to make it and try to figure out
(10:58):
how can we do that? Being here in Oklahoma City.
There's no industry here, there's no you know, record record
executives or producers. What are we going to do? How
are we going to figure this out? So what we
used to do was all the big acts that used
to come through Oklahoma City to do concerts, we would just
stalk them down and find where their buses were. After
(11:18):
the show. We would find out where they were the hotels,
whatever hotels they were staying at, and we would catch them,
you know, as they were walking into the hotel or
walking into the venue, and we would stop them and
just start singing and hopefully that you know, somebody would.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You know, hustle the hustle man. There was no social media,
no YouTube. People couldn't post themselves singing. There was no
you know, justin Bieber fame, you know, being found that way.
That was the way to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's the only way. And we got a lot of
great leads like you know, we got a chance to
sing with Huey Lewis and the News up in his
hotel room, you know, I love and John bon Joey.
We stopped him him coming out of a movie theater
in Oklahoma City right before his concert, and he was
we blew him away with our vocals and he was like, man,
(12:08):
you guys open up the concert tomorrow night. And so
we were thinking, how we call your bluff? How are
we going to do acapella songs in front of eight
thousand rockers? You know it's gonna work, And believe it
(12:29):
or not, man, it really came off. They loved it.
And the best part of that was after we had
stopped singing, the lights came on and John bon Jovi
and Richie comes out, vibes, hugs and twenty thousand people
just going nuts. Man, so that night we got dates
that next weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I bet you did.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You better have Yeah, I bet you did.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Oh good man, what's crazy is I was going to
ask you if I think you just answered the question
of it because and glee obviously, the kids who were
in the glee club are not the most popular. They
get made fun of and bully for being the glee club.
You guys were inquire, but at the same time you
were hustling on the side opening up for bon Jovi.
(13:16):
So I imagine your experience in high school in post high
school when you're doing this was quite different than I imagine.
It wasn't so much you guys were looked down upon
because you were singing.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That's all we had was our vocals, you know, And
it wasn't our looks we had, you know, we weren't.
We weren't the jocks, you know, hearing the football and
the basketball players. No, we had our vocals, and people
respected that what we were doing singing a cappella with
the harmonies. People didn't hear that during those days, you know, right.
(13:53):
So it was such a unique sound and we were
able to really make a big, you know, splash there,
you know. But we got a lot of respect, man,
from from not only the kids, but from the principal
and the teachers and all that, and everybody really, you know,
encouraged us to do something with it. Our parents they
weren't always supportive, you know, because they were like, god,
(14:17):
you know, job, the job, go to college and that.
But you know, we were like, we're gonna go with
our hearts. You know, this is our dream. You get
one chance in life.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Mm hmm, it's happening.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We're gonna give it our best shot. And that's what we.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Did, man, And you did it, and you're signed so
smart about it too, because something about acapella and when
you're good at it, it's undeniable where you're just out there, raw,
exposed with the ability or not. You either got it
or you don't. And so it's interesting to me that
in high school and how the principal, like the staff,
(14:51):
the kids, everybody appreciated respected it because you're not relying
on any gimmicks. That's why you can go, you know,
the next night on a stage in front of twenty
thousand people and blow them away because you actually had
the ability to do it. The skills we knew.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
We knew we were good after we did, and I'm
not just saying that we were good. And you know,
you know at that time, you know, you had the
new Kids on the Block that was doing really well
on the radio and New Addition, and you know, everyone
loved those groups, and you know, but we knew we
(15:28):
had something to offer also, and we wanted to do
what they were doing. It was just trying to find
that that bridge to crossover to make that happen. And
it was actually cool in the gang who actually took
us under their wings. You know, they wanted us to
wait till like we graduated from high school, you know,
to hit that eighteen year old mark, because they wanted parents.
(15:52):
So that's what happened, and they took us to New York.
After that, we stayed in the bedroom apartment and we
got turned down by every record label. Everybody turn us
down down there. Yeah, and it was Cassandra Mills from
Giant Records who took a chance on us. And it
was because of our song that we had written called
(16:14):
Iador Mia More and that became one of our number
one hits. So that was it, man, that's you know,
I mean, you know, you wonder when you put work
into something and you know, hard work and you stay
with it, man, you can make it happen. It's just
sticking with it, you know, and just be you know
(16:35):
what I'm say, y'all know this, you guys and everything
you guys have done. Y'all know the hard work, y'all
know the hustle.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So that's right, it is what's important to remember that
all you need is one yes. You know. It's like
you work so hard on something you know you're good,
and then nobody else sees it, and it feels like
you're crazy. Everybody's crazy. No one sees this. We know
we're good, and then you just get that one yes,
one yes, man, and then you just rack up a
bunch of number ones, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I mean, you know, it's crazy how that can happen.
It's almost like it was destined for it to happen,
you know what I mean. You just see so many
people as long as you put in the hours of
the hard work, it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Right in high school, how did you meet up with
cool the gang? How did that connection happen? Was that
another one of those we're going to stock you up
for you?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah? Yeah, kind of so they had this campaign going
on called, uh, It's cool to Stay in school. Okay,
they were coming in concert and they were going to
throw a party for all the kids who had perfect attendance,
It's cool to stay in school. Well, that party was
(17:44):
during school, so we had a skip school to make
it to that it's cool to stay in school at
a party.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, So so we were playing hooky that day, but
it was well worth it because that's how we got
our break. And we snuck into the party and when
it was our turn to guess get an autograph, we
just started singing and we caught everybody's attention and from
there they introduced us to their road manager at the time,
(18:16):
who ended up becoming our manager, and that's kind of
how it all happened from there.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah. So I Want to Sex You Up was one
of your first singles, right, and it's spent a lot
of time on the charts. Tell can you like talk
about what that was like for you after all this hustle,
after all this time and work to like actually see
it come to fruition, Like, what was that like for
(18:43):
you guys?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, you know, it was so crazy because we couldn't
see it happening because we were so busy and everyone
would tell us, Hey, we heard your song on the radio,
we heard your song in the movie. And it really
didn't hit me until I remember we were coming out
of a radio station in Los Angeles and it was
(19:07):
an early interview, like six am. We were coming out
and some guy just come flying down the road in
his car blasting our song. And I was like, oh, wow,
playing this song.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I mean, you know he saw it in the wild.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, yeah, And and and That's when I knew that
that that it was really happening. And then we took
a trip to London and there was a lot of
girls there at the airport waiting for us, and I'm like, wow,
that's crazy. Made it. Then people across the pond know
(19:48):
who we are, and then we get top of the pops,
you know, at.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That amazing it was.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It's great, man, it was. It's a really great time
in our lives. But it happens so fast sometimes you
just didn't know you were going through it.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Sure, Yeah, we feel that resonates a lot. We get
asked out a lot too, like when did you know
the show? Was like, you don't, You're just working, You're
just doing what's asked of you, and you don't. You
feel feel almost insulated from the success of it, and
you're sort of seeing or experiencing that in the wild
moment where you see somebody interacting with whatever you're doing
(20:24):
and you're able to watch it happen, and it's very surreal.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, very real experience, very real, very surreal. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You've been through a lot with the band, with your
whole success. I mean, you've been doing this for so long.
Now you're twenty one, you have just had I know,
I'm kidding, what advice, knowing what you know now, would
you give your younger self that high school kuld, you know,
putting in the hustle.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You know, I always say this to myself. I would
have learned an instrument. I can play guitar, but back
then I would have really I would have learned an instrument,
whether if it was guitar, piano, piano. Maybe I play
guitar right now, but piano would have been really nice.
You been able to produce a lot more. I wished
(21:26):
I would have written more songs like when your time
is happening and everything you write is being put on
the radio. I wished I would have written a dozen
more songs, you know. More importantly, now, I wished I
would have learned more Spanish, you know, you know, because
I could speak a little Spanish, but I wish I
(21:47):
would have been you know, yeah, point, I wish I
would have learned that. That's what I would have told
my younger self. Also, I would have said, you know,
don't take this everything so hard, because I was so
nervous during those times. I remember a lot of stress.
You know, good enough, you know, are we gonna do good?
(22:11):
It was just so much. I took myself through a
lot and I didn't have to, you know, you know,
you just take it step by step, you know, and
know that everything's going to work out. You just be
your best, you work hard, it'll all come together and
just like it, you know. And but yeah, those are
(22:32):
you know, little.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Things are really good. Those definitely. Yeah. I wish I
had learned a language and played an instrument as well.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So yeah, yeah, it's so easy to be hard on
yourself when you're going through all that too. I really
you want perfection, but it's like you just got to
sort of trust and you're like, I admitted this far
surely I'll be all right when the time comes tomorrow
or whatever it is we're doing, you know, but it's
hard when you're and it's hard to separate yourself from that,
see it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It would be so hard to be a solo act
and go through all of that, man, because you don't
have anything to lean on. I did have the other guys,
so that helped a lot, you know, and and they
were always there for me, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
But you know, it's there are a lot of solo
artists that say, like touring is a very lonely place.
It's a really hard thing to go through on your own,
especially when you've made it bag and it's like you
can feel very ice, you can feel very isolated.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
It can be a lot of I mean, I know
a lot of people that experience what we had experienced.
You know, they go through counseling. Now now you know,
you know, I go through these counselings, but just because
of you know, there was one point in your life
where everyone loved you and want to take pictures and
now no one gets to damn about it.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
But yeah, sometimes you.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Go through that and you know, it's a mind game.
You know, you've got to know that, you know, things
change real fast, and this music industry changes so fast.
You know, it's crazter.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Than anything else in entertainment, anything else.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I don't know if I'm a fan of the way
everything is now. I know it gives a lot of
new artists a chance. With the Internet, social media, it
gives a lot of people a chance to put out
their music and get their stuff heard. But I don't know.
I don't know if I like it like this. I
think I like it better the other way, where record
(24:36):
labels really pour into you and develop you and put
you with some great songwriters and blah blah blah and
kind of get you all together and put you out
there properly. The way it's not just throw you out
there and see if it happens. You know, I'm sure
there's a lot of great songs that I still haven't
heard to this day that just never got it shot.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, it is like a catch twenty two, isn't it?
Because it's it is amazing that so many people can
put out stuff from their bedroom and you get exposed
to all these potential great songwriters and artists they never
would have heard. But I have the same sort of
feelings sometimes where you want the money behind the songs
and the artists that so they can be heard by
(25:14):
as many people as possible, because it's so hard to
make a record, it's so hard to get it heard.
And then now it feels like who it's the luck
of the draw, if you're if the algorithm shows it
to you or not.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You don't know if anyone's ever gonna hear the music.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's what you're counting on, is the algorithm, you know.
How about how about how the nas X You heard
his story? Yeah, oh yeah, he did it for fun,
the gonna take mine? He did it for fun. He
did as a joke, almost put it out there. He
woke up the next morning he had forty thousand downloads,
(25:50):
you know, and he knew that he had something there.
So it just happens like that. But man, it's it's
it's tough, man. It's almost like a hitting the lottery
or something.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know. I feel like that too.
Reminds me of what you were saying about your guys
a story. Because he luckily was ready for the opportunity,
right he That thing randomly happened and then had one
of the biggest songs of all time, then has backed
it up with hits after hits and a great album.
You guys pulled yourselves together and then got this opportunity,
(26:21):
got signed and then were ready or bon Jovi said
go on stage and do it, and you were ready. Yeah,
it's also about you know, who actually wants it who
as there's a difference between I have an idea for
a song and I'm gonna put it out and then
that I want this to be my life and my
career and I have a lot more to give.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Right, very very good, very good man.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Right on, Boyd with that no doubt you said you
saw the Michael tour, Like who else were your musical
inspirations growing up?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
You know, growing up in the eighties are the best?
In the eighties were the best. You know. One of
the great highlights of our career, believe it or not,
was opening up for Prints one time. We got Yeah,
and there's one song that Prince really loved of ours.
It was our first single from our second album called
(27:13):
Time and Chance, and he sent us, uh uh, he
sent us a telegram talking about how a telegram Right,
that's what we're going back. But he sent us a letter,
you know, to our agency about how he loved that record.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That was like, thank you, that's all we needed. We
can you know, loved one of your songs, that's all
it mattered. So yeah, so that was that was amazing,
you know. Wow. Yeah, man, So there's a.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Good stuff because you also got to, you know, work
with people and meet people that you probably looked up
to and idolized as a king in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
We did. We worked with David Foster on lots of songs. Yeah,
we did. We work with David Foster.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
He knows a good vocalist, you know, David.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I mean that guy is he's a genius. But you
know what's cool about David And sometimes he'll get in
the studio with you and he'll he'll look at you,
he's like, okay, y'all, guys have any ideas for this part?
You know, he'll actually bring you in to help oberation.
And that was the best. Man. You're like, David, you're asking.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Me, right, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis was amazing. They were amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I walked into a room a couple of months ago
and Jimmy jam was in there and I left. I
couldn't handle being in the same room because I didn't
know how to. I well walked in the room, I turned,
I gasped, and then walked out.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I love it. Man, Hey, he's the nicest guy. You
have to probably have to say something to him next time.
Greatest god man.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
People seemed like he was surrounded by people, and I
was like, good for you guys, I can't do this,
awesome dude. Cool.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Well, well, Mark, we's been such a pleasure chatting with you.
Such a wonderful human and what a great artist, And
thank you for sharing your art with everybody and your perspective.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, it was really grateful to have you on the show.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
And are you on the road right now? Can people
come see you?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah. We've probably done about fifty shows already
this year.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Go to color Mebad dot com you know for all
of our all of our shows, and man, come on out.
We have a great time. We sing all the songs.
I see everybody coming in with their nineties gear. Oh man,
they're singings, they're dancing.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, the best that were great?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Really?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Oh man, Well, thank you you Mark It's been a
pleasure talk with you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, enjoy the rest of your tour. Everybody go see
them like it sounds like a great time.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
It is, guys man. And when we come out there
to l A, you guys are gonna have to come definitely.
Yeah right, all right, guys.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, take care, take care, God.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Bless bye bye.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
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