November 9, 2023 • 45 mins
Their podcast may be called "Two Idiot Girls," but they are anything but!
Successful podcasters, siblings, and Glee fans Drew and Deison Afualo join Jenna and Kevin to dish about taking down toxic men, unfortunate dating experiences, red flags to look out for, and their tour!
Plus, Drew and Deison turn the tables on Kevin and Jenna, asking them Glee questions that any fan would want to know the answers to!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And That's what you Really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's What Really Missed podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We have a two very special guests today.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yes, normally it's just one, but today we double the pleasure,
double the fun. I hate myself, this is this dad joke.
I have a real problems.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Today we have Drew and Jason and I came from
two idiot girls and I could not be more excited.
They are gleeks and they are also very funny, very
funny and sisters. This is like a dream combo over here.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I didn't want it to end. I'm so excited for
all of you to jump into this conversation because I mean,
if you don't follow one of them on TikTok, what
are you doing? What are you doing if you haven't
listened to one of Drew's two podcasts, and Drew and
Jayson have a podcast, are you get on it? Come on?
They are the best. Enjoy how's it going good? Thank
(01:12):
you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We've been huge Glee fans forever, so when we got
the messages, we were like, so this is super exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, the fandom is mutual. I assure you, yes, we
were talking about because you had this segment one of
your episodes when you were trying to you're talking about
Glee songs, just random Glee songs, and the way you
two talked about what the song was is exactly how
Jenna and I should know what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
You're in it.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Do you remember way more than we did?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, you know the number where they're dressed in black
and they're like, I'm like, how do they remember this?
I have no recollection. Jenna and I will be texting
each other like do you remember doing this thing with?
What song was this? Like we have to google ship
because we don't know. Like, this is very relatable. You
too could have a Glee podcast. It doesn't take much.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, if you guys ever want to pass the torch,
let us know.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Okay, I mean it would be an honor. Welcome you guys,
Thanks for coming on the show. We're very excited to
have you. There's I don't even know where to start
you guys, there's just a lot to chat about. Maybe
let's talk about you guys first, because I just want
to know more about your story.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I want to know about like how your podcast came
to be how your tiktoks all came to be because
you're like massive on your own in your own right
and then like together, so like was.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
This always the plan? Like were you, you know, like
making this plan when you were very little.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I think that both Dayson and I were just really
like we just love to entertain and like we love
to tell stories, we love to be funny, and so
so I think we both wanted to work in the
entertainment industry to some degree. I think for me, I
was I thought it was going to be sports, Like
I thought sports commentating was gonna be my thing. And
(03:09):
Dason actually majored in film in college, so I think
she was gonna planning on doing more behind the scenes
stuff and we just kind of fell into this. We
actually started our podcast before I grew my platform on TikTok,
So it was we just, yeah, we were ready. We
were ready and waiting for the perfect opportunity. I think
(03:32):
we just like we make ourselves laugh really hard, so
we were like, we should start a podcast, Like everyone
they're just like, I'm hilarious, other people should hear me.
And so we actually started our podcast first, and then
Dason actually moved to New York, and so we were
kind of doing it on Zoom for a while, and
then we had to take a break for a little.
Then my platform blew up really big, and then we
(03:55):
resumed the podcast and then now we have like a
studio and a team and it's just been like the
craziest random ride.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
But it's been great.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
God.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I love that because it was sort of you know,
it's like the Oprah model. I feel like if one
comes up, everybody comes up. Like you bring your closest
people with you, and then it's easy because no one's
You don't have to question motives of people. You know,
you guys are inherently funny. Yeah, and like and now
it's been verified. People appreciate what we're.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Saying, and now no, Kevin and Jenna said, so, so
now it has.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
To be Yeah, it's verified.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Now you've checked exactly. The bar is low. I guess
if we're the ones that you need.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
To verify it, do you re find that like as
like siblings, like there's you guys like it ever affects
your relationship working together.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think my mom moves brought up for two years apart,
so we grew up like kind of like twins, Like
every time I got to do something, like like you have.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
To wait till you're thirteen to do something, and then
Drew could do it at eleven. That was always the case.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So I think we just grew up so close forever
that when it came time to like start a business together,
it was like almost second nature. Like it's easy for
us to work together, Like even our mom, she's one
of our managers.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Like, that's super easy for us as well.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
I think.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, there's gonna be times where we like, of course,
like argue. That's probably the biggest question we get most
of the time, like what's your big ish fight?
Speaker 6 (05:25):
I'm like, why would I tell you that?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
But for the most part, I think it's pretty seamless
because we know each other so well, and I think
it just.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Is it's so easy, you know, Like I feel like
the best way to.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Learn if you're gonna like someone in your life is
like going on vacation together. And like we've been on
vacation with each other my entire life. I'm almost thirty, so.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
This is easy.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It was a second nature to us, and it's just
been really fun the whole time, Like every time we
get to do something new like this, Like, it's always
really exciting getting to do it together.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Even if just Drow got to come on, I would
be so excited for her and I.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Would under I would have had her mic setup like
that's I've never Yeah, I've just never.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
We've never been raised to be jealous of each other.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's always been to be really supportive and yeah, super easy.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It is special having someone to share all those experiences with,
because it's a very for you guys, and Jenna and
I have talked about this a lot for like the
Glee stuff, but with you guys, it's such a specific
experience getting to where you are now that at least
you always have someone to be able like remember they
get it or they are like, oh god, I hate
this person. You have that shared experience for the good
(06:30):
and bad. Because I always feel when you see like
big musicians or movie stars, even though they successful and
all that, I always in the back of my mind,
I'm like, am I suck because you don't have someone
to be that close with, to share that everything with
like you have each other. And I feel like it's
such an invaluable part of this whole experience.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think I think too, like even
for like for us personally, like obviously like days and said,
we're sisters. You know, when you have new relationships, whether
they're like platonic romantic business, sometimes you go through those
phases where you struggle to like communicate things to each other.
Jason and I already got past that because we're siblings.
(07:12):
So like if we ever have issues or problems with
each other, or we we have like in the sense
that we're like frustrated with each other, or there's something
that bothers one of us and not the other, we're
very good at talking to each other because we're siblings.
So I feel like that communication a lot of times
is what makes going into business with friends or family
hard is because you don't have that relationship already established
(07:35):
where you can be open and honest with each other
as well as like shared experience like you said, Kevin,
and I think we have that. We're really lucky to
have a very strong family unit. So my mom and
dad have always been like you guys are sisters first,
and then the business comes, so like nothing's more important
than your bond with each other. So like, if I
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had to choose between the business and my sister. Obviously,
I'm going to choose my sister every time, and so
I think I think that like those boundaries established long
ago for us to be able to talk to each
other and then also remembering that nothing's more important than
each other, and how we love each other and support
each other, I think it's made it a lot easier
(08:16):
than like going into a business with like a stranger
or someone you don't know, or newly starting something with
someone you barely know. I think that's why it works
really well with us, thankfully.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, and I'm sure it also makes what you're doing
better too. Yeah. People can feel that, people can hear it,
and people can see it, and so it affects you've
got some good parents. You know, we've seen too often
when somebody has success and you don't have that foundation,
that stable foundation, that things can vary things. With success,
(08:51):
things are thrown at you all the time and you
have access to all these new things and opportunities and vices,
whatever it may be. Yeah, without that stable with support
and foundation, then people can, you know, get caught up
very easily. So sounds like that's what happened in.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Here, thankfully, I know. I feel like our family keeps
us pretty humble, which is a good thing. I like,
I tell this joke all the time, Like when I
first started growing a platform on TikTok, our grandfather, like
my maternal grandfather, he was like, well, your mom tells
me that you're like doing stuff online and I was like, oh, yeah,
(09:31):
you know, just like making videos. And he's old this
ship obviously, and then he was like, uh. He goes, yeah, TikTok,
and I'm like yeah, he goes, I have a TikTok.
I'm like, oh, word, do you like it? And then
he goes, yeah, but I've never watched you. And I
was like, oh, okay, why not And he goes.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I don't need to see all that.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And I'm like all that or something.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I have no clue, Like what do you think He
still hasn't watched me to this day, And you know what,
that's okay, even.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Its working, you know what.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
And that's that's my immediate family. So you know, it's humbling.
That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I think you need that.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Like in this world.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
When when Glee started, my brother was going to college
in England and so he sort of missed like what
was happening here, and yes, and I went. Jenna and
I went there together for the summer and also to
your point of being able to travel with somebody, it
was this trip where we really cemented our life beyond
because not only could we travel together, we excelled at
(10:35):
life we did abroad together, Like, oh, this works, right.
But my brother gets to the hotel and he's like,
why do you have security? Look at your face? No
one wants to talk to you. What is this what
It's like? You're ugly, you nothing, and you have a
giant head. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I agree, I
have a mirror. However, wait till we go outside. And
(10:56):
then he was like, I get it. But the whole thing,
you know, we're just riddled with insults every holiday. You guys,
keep me your family, you roast please.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I wanted to talk about these, these takedowns of toxic men.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Oh yeah, let's get into it speaking.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Of people who start podcasts.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Okay, So Drew, You're like, tell me what was the
impetus to do these? Did you notice these men first?
Have you always like thought about this? Where did that
come from? Because they're really funny?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Thank you, thank you. I think in the In the beginning,
I was kind of just posting funny story times of
my own, like unfortunate dating experiences. I mean, I feel
like that's just a ride of passage if you unfortunately
day men. And so I was kind of telling silly
stories and they like dug it. They thought it was fun.
(12:07):
And then my first video to like really ever go
viral was not even like a roast. Really it was,
well it was, but it wasn't like at someone specific.
It was they asked me, well, the prompt was some
very specific red flags and men that you have, and
so I like had a whole list. I had like
twelve things and I just listed them all out. And
(12:29):
then that was my very first video to like really
go viral. And I got a whole bunch of people
being like, this is so funny, this is so true
like normal stuff. Like They're like, I can relate. And
then I got a whole lot of men who really
didn't like that, you know, hate hearing all the terrible
things they do to us.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And so.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I remember when I got all the hate. I had
never experienced anything like that before. I'm very normal. Prior
to this industry, I worked normal jobs. We both went
to college, like we graduated, We did all the normal
life things already up until that point. So I had
never experienced hate like that, and I thought it was funny.
I thought we were all laughing and goofing, so I
(13:15):
started goofing back. And turns out it worked out really
well for me and for them.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So curious, okay, I see.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Oh yeah, I mean, and has the backlash of like
these unwanted men do they.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Has it gotten worse over time or has it gotten better.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
It's definitely gotten better in the sense that they've gotten
better at either running from me or hiding it. So
I learning how the internet works exactly the digital footprint.
They were like, people can see this what? So I
think that realization kind of helped them this year. But
(13:57):
there was a point, like when I really started growing
that it was just every day, every single day, I
was like getting hundreds of thousands of comments videos like
horrible things said about me. But I don't care what
mediocre men think about my looks, so it doesn't bother me,
and I feel like that part bothered them. And even so,
like with two idiot girls, like sometimes we'll get a
(14:20):
rando like just coming in there and be like, you
guys are the biggest people have ever seen in my life,
Like the funnest people I've ever seen. And we will
find that funny because like I don't, like, neither of
us are pigmies, so male validation means nothing to either
of us. She's gay and I'm wiped up, so I
really don't care. Like neither of us care to be honest,
(14:41):
So like we care more about hate. Like the hate
that we care more about is like when people are
like the sound is bad, totally, that's the one that
I'm like, I'm like, gosh, days, we have to think
about it. That's the only literally.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're preaching to the choir.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Talent.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
That's the only kind of hate we really care about
and the only hate we really get. So Jason's gay,
so like she really doesn't care what men think.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was gonna say since you started, you know, I
think your platform in that way, we're like, here's so
you shitty people listen up here. You also have just
been I feel like that's maybe made it easier because
you guys have lifted up so many communities like the
LGBTQ community and Aapian community and the trans community. Was
that just because of I mean, it sounds like because
(15:36):
of who you are all are like inherently that would like,
let's just use this in a positive way, like this
attention and make sure we stick up for these you know,
often suppressed and forgotten about communities. Was that important since
the beginning to sort of go for that?
Speaker 6 (15:52):
I mean, I think Drew when people ask me, like,
has you always been like this?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And like, my whole life has always been Drew like
standing up to bullies, like no matter what it's for,
if you're like people are making fun of your body
or what you look like. My sister has always been
the first one to like stand up, especially me. I
got bullied a lot when I was younger because I
was gay and shine I didn't want to talk to people,
and Drew is always there.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
And I think that's why a lot of people think
she's older than me, even though I'm older technically, But.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I think it just my mom has always taught us
to stand up for what's right and to stand up
for other people. And I think growing up feeling like
both of us feeling othered because we were always like
the only song one girls in the class, or you know,
Drew just like one hundred feet tall and.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Most boys on my stuff like that. But there's just
little things that I'm gay like, there's just little things
like that that I think we've always we know what
that feels like.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And I think being able to be like a pacificer
representation for our people is like on it the one
part that makes both of us very I mean, I
cry all the.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Time, but she doesn't it, but that part like will
really get us.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
That's why we always talk about the Rock because he's
always been our only form of like someone representation, Like
I remember when Mulwana came out and stuff like that.
So I think it's just always been easy for us
to want to stand up for other people.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And I think being able to build like a little community.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Of people like us or people who are like us
that want to learn more about people like us or
feel a part of the community is like a really
special part of our platform for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Because then you're you're expanding that because now it's not
just the Rock. Yeah, you guys are in conversation exactly.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
You've done exactly. I think I too, even for for me,
like the show, my comment section show and Twity eight
Girls obviously are two different podcasts, but like, I feel
like the energy is very different for both of them.
So like the comment section obviously is more like Tac
Too E and we talk about funny things and silly
things and serious things. But on twity eight Girls, I
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feel like it's so a much different side of me
and like my personality and like the things that I like,
like Glee for example, Like sometimes we talk about stuff
on two D eight Girls that they're like, I didn't
know you liked Glee. I'm like girl, because you guys
don't care about anything that I talk about that not
me making fun of a man. I am so much
more multifaceted girl first, and then I hated men. I'm
(18:07):
just kidding, made ye. Yeah, I'm like Glee. Glee made
me love literally everyone but men, so every marginalized person
except men.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So let's talk about Glee.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, did you guys watch it when it came out?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Or when did? When was your introduction to Glee?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
The first episode I can remember watching all the way through,
which has my favorite Glee cover in it is the
problem one where they do I'm not going to teach
your way for how to answer to you. That's the
best we cover. I don't care, like that's the best one.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I think it's Darren's best. I think that's it's so good.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Everyone's talking about Sumer that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Or the coup is one of my friends of Darren's.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I think it's so funny that people I'm not I'm
not going to teach it about your boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'm just flabbergasted at it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I really do you hate it?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I don't love it.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
It just does something to me.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't know, there's no judgment. I'm probably the minority here.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I just We've had a lot of fans who say it,
and I'm like, maybe because I did it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I don't know, like because I was like that day, Yeah,
I might have hated it that day. It's very possible.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, I feel like maybe that's your association to actually
filming it is bad.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Okay, I love hearing this.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Okay, you guys mean like a lot of Glee songs,
like on your podcast that I was very impressed with.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Keep keep talking about your the songs you guys like.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Oh, I was wait, I was going to say, I
think I'm not going to teach your byfriend. ID answer
to you, I think a big reason why a lot
of us love that one other than the obvious like Darren,
Chris is obviously so talented, all of you are that
we're involved in the song. But I think it's because,
like obviously, Darren plays a a gay man on the show,
and I feel like that was one of those where
you were kind of like, wait a minute, am.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I attracted to this? Yeah, I'm I kind of like,
hold on, I'm thinking about it a little bit.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
So long, Yeah, like genuine believe because they're kind of like,
hold on, he's eating.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I think it's because it's the most Darren song, like
the other ones are Blaine, that is very much I
feel like Darren. Okay, because I was watching, I was like, oh,
this it's Darren. This works for me on a different level.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I'm telling you. You're kind of like, well.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
This is when we first started seeing like Darren in
out of warbler outfit, so we didn't see him with
like the slick hair over and seeing him in like more.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Darren esque, you know, Darren Blayne. That makes sense, Okay.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I think that's the draw for the most because oviously
it's like gay women, gay men, and then a bunch
of straight women were kind of like.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I'm attracted to this game.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He wouldn't be the first. The amount of my life
people who have told me like Darren's got like the whitest,
like the widest, like every demographic likes Derek. Yes, he's
doing everybody. Yeah yeah, I mean not all of us
got to play super likable characters, okay, misogynistic.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I liked Arty's character. Your cover of Isn't She Lovely?
I think is amazing at tournament. You know which one
I think is Man in the Mirror? I think Man
in the Mirror is so long? That's one of my
favorite one. One of my favorite GENA ones was which
is the one I couldn't remember but I looked it
up after is the first time ever I saw your face?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
The one I would.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Think, you know, one of my favorite?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, yeah, black though.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
For that one, I thought you were That's what the
vision in my head was that And then when everyone
was like, what are you talking about? I was like
trying to sing the song because I don't know the
words to anything out.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's the one I was thinking that you were thinking of.
So I was with you. I was with you.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
That's my favorite love that one.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay, interesting you also mentioned this is also well I
have two questions. Okay, so you mentioned you really liked
Pure Imagination. Was this only because you like Wi Wanka?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Because I hate that song?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
But I also I thought it was I didn't expect
that cover and I thought it was done really well.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
That was my impersonation.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, fair enough, fair.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Enough, another weird day for Jenna.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
That a really weird day for me.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I'm like, why are you taking all my triggering episodes
like this? While thank you very much, I'm your therapist,
space Jenna.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Okay, safe space.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Then I have I have a question for you, guys.
What do you think of Run Joey Run? Do you
remember to Run Joey Run?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
I think I do. I think I'm thinking of if
I'm thinking of the right one.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's the weird video that Rachel put together with like
all the.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. I mean this is me being
a little biased. If I don't know the song, I
may not love it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
How got it?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
However, if it has like a kick ass B then
I might be like, Okay, hold on, because a song
like I rewatched Lee recently actually like a couple of
years ago, I like rewatched it from front to back.
Still holds up to this day. Everyone. I rewatched it
a few a couple of years ago, and I wanted
(23:47):
my boyfriend to watch it because he had never seen
it before. So I was like, you would idea about
American history history.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
In TV, I'm going to give you a lesson institutions.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, So we rewatched it, like from front to back.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And then he didn't break up with you.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
No, he did not.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
In fact, I actually have been Darren Chris actually yeah,
he saw it.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
He was like, all right, but.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I even I even have videos of him, like I
was watching I was recording him watching the Brittany episode,
and I remember he was watching so intensely that I
recorded videos of him because he was like because he
was just so enthralled to do it. Yeah, and so
I even even when I rewatched it, I forgot about
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Party all the time, the like cover that I think
it was.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Is it Gwyneth Paltrow?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
That's Who's does she do?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Party all the time?
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I remember, I remember Darren, I remember I think Leo
was in there. I forget the rest of the cast
that was evolved, but.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
There was a lot I didn't know that song.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
And then when I saw the Yeah, when I rewatched.
When I rewatched the cup, I was like, hold on,
this song kind of eat, so let me look it up.
And I didn't know that song was by Eddie Murphy Hello,
like the only song he ever. I had no idea
that he made song. And I looked it up and
I put both the cover and the original.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I'll put him on a plaist.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I was jealous. I wasn't on that because I was like,
I like this song.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
It's a good song, but I had never heard it before.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
My point bang, if I don't know it, I won't
gravitate towards it unless it bangs.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
And then I'm like, I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And I so see. It was an education. We were educating.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Exactly exactly American history.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
American history.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
We were like, this is what being gay is, number
one everyone, and here's some old music you've never heard.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Exactly exactly. Even when I showed my boyfriend in the
first like four seasons, he was like, this show is
so like representative, and I was like, I know it
was groundbreaking, groundbreaking at the time on television.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Girl that's craic tell cast members when they would come on,
like in later seas, like if you're not gay yet,
give it six months, strap strap in, or at least
try it once to see if you're like just listen
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also a good cover. Listen was also a very okay.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You talked about how will I know who did that?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I know?
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Amber?
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Amber was Yeah, so just so you know, on a rewatch,
we're just starting season three, so we haven't gotten there
yet because for us we remember seasons one and two
very well.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Season three on it's a little, i mean very fuzzy.
We don't remember.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
We're essentially watching it for the first time. There's so
much that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Is that so crazy to like watch yourselves back, like
especially years ago, Like you're like, don't even know that person?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
No, I was like, I was terrible. How did I
get this job? Was luckily something because.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, I was broke at least in the audition.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yeah, I'm saying I'm so interested how it was. Because
you guys filmed for so long and I feel like
through such formative years that you were like experienced like
growing up actively and acting at the same time.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, colleges.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, in like your formative years where we were so
lucky in so many ways, Like all of us who
had just booked the show from the beginning, like the pilot,
we were all basically broke. I mean, we had dollars
in our bank accounts and we had to ask them
to send our first check early because we all were
living on nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I was driving a car that I had totaled but
was still driving it because I had so.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
We were fairly lucky.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah. And then you attach yourself to these people who,
like we were talking about earlier, like only they can
understand what you're going through.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
So these people that we, you know, worked with in
our twenties, who we may not have been friends with
ever again if you were in any other setting, are
now family that you know, you're tied together for better
or for worse. And so it was it was really
they're just really important people. Is a really important time.
But also like we don't remember because we attached ourselves
(28:29):
to the memories and to where we were in the time,
and so like watching it back, you're like it's like
sense memory or you've blocked it from your memory completely.
You're like, I don't it's like short term. You're like
you go in to do like, you know, a math quiz, right,
and you don't remember the shit after you walk out
of the room, and it's like that you were like,
what line, what episode am I doing today? How does
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my character feel? And then like you move on to
the next thing, and so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
I know, I have another question. I'm so sorry. I'm
like me taking over your interview. I'm so curious when
you guys like saw it on on like TV for
the first time, was it like crazy to be a
part of something that was so progressive, especially for the time,
Like I mean, like was that like surreal? Was it
like hard dealing with it in real life? Like you know,
like some people were really kissed off at Glee, like
(29:16):
when it first came out, like and it had all
this queer representation, ethnic representation, right, it had it had
so many different levels of like not just representation in
the sense of like marginalized identities, but also like family
situations like divorce, cheating, like you know, like just all
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kinds of stuff that people, like the human experience, like
people experience in real life, but I've never seen on
sitcom before. Like was that like hard for you guys
to deal with it in real life or was it
like more great than it was bad.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
I'm just so curious.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I mean, I think in the beginning, for me at least,
it was like, oh, this is just all my interests,
Like let's get like weird and queer and satirical. Yeah,
and so I didn't think about I mean, I think
for us too, it's like getting a job is so hard,
and then you get this thing that you find really funny,
and everyone who works on it is so nice and
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you're obsessed with each other and so like, we got
to film a lot of it before anybody saw anything,
So I don't think a lot of us necessarily were
able to have the foresight to be like, what are
people going to think about this? Because for a lot
of it was our first thing. But I think as
soon as it came out and you started and we
could only experience like what people thought to an extent
(30:32):
because we were so protected in our little sound stages
and just working every day and having a blast. But
when you were able to i don't know, re reviews
or meet people on the street and get that sort
of thing that you were just talking about from such
a variety of people, it was absolutely mind boggling, because
(30:53):
I've always said, like, it's great to get a job
and you love that, but to actually do something that
is meaningful to people outside of just like we're clowns.
We're making them laugh, we're singing and dancing, but also
people are seeing themselves and do feel like they're seeing
themselves for the first time. And it's also an experience
that people can watch with their whole families and that
(31:15):
was a really special thing and I think as time
went on we got to realize that. But at first
it was just like, what's happening, Like, are we going
to keep doing this or do people first.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, when we recorded or when we were shooting, and
then you know, like Kevin said, we didn't They didn't
see like the first thirteen episodes until we were done
shooting them. And so we went off to Australia and
did some tours and promotional things, and then people, you know,
it started to air and then we started to feel it.
And I don't think we had the foresight to really
think about it, but as we did, and it felt
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like it started to feel like an honor and a
responsibility because it felt like something that we were wrap
sending people who had never been represented before on television
like the Rock for you guys like I see a
lot of Asian representation on TV.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
They were exact people.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
And so for little girls to be come up to
me and be like, thank you, you're just in for
like Chris Colfer, for example, plays like such an iconic
gay character to like, it's such a responsibility and like
and just so many people you started to feel like
the outpouring of that. And then on the other side
of it, like Christian groups would come after us and
(32:31):
just like, I don't know anything you could possibly imagine
there was somebody that was protesting our show because we
were doing something wrong. We're honestly, like, I can't believe that,
like broadcast television like Fox was like allowing us to
say some of the things we actually said.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
We were kind of floored by it.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But if they have family, guy, they are used to it.
You know, sure, they're just happy something was successful.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah, they're like, honestly, and you know what's so funny too,
is my boyfriend when we when he watched because obviously
he watched it for the first so I'm like watching
him watch it for the first time.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
He was cracking up, girl, Like.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
He was laughing. He's like, this show is funny. I
was like, I'm telling you. They do showes and they
do jokes. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Like what a weird combination.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
So good.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So, now that you've rewatched it, what for both of you?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Like?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
What seasons do you love the most? And like what episode?
Like do you have episodes that like stand out to you?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Guys?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Ooh, that's such a hard question. I would say like
two to five seasons two to five are like money money,
even when you all moved to Even when everyone moved
to New York, I was.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I was in it.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I was still watching You're still there when the original
cast I graduated. Oh, I was in it. I was involved.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
What about what do I do? I think season two
and three are my favorites. Those are the ones I
always speak of when I think of watching.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, I was in college, like I was like, like
Rachel and everyone's like moving to New York, and I
was like, yeah, like watching the same, yeah, the same.
I loved it, like all the way through.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I could not get enough of it. I was still
listening to Glee walking to class. I'm like, same so
much funny. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Say.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
We would literally call each other because we were in
college at the same time obviously, in like twenty thirteen,
twenty fourteen, and we would call each other and be like,
she would tell me, did you watch Glee this week?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
I'm like, you watch it and then call.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Me, oh, like okay.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I would watch it in my little TV that was
like this big in my dorm room, and I would
watch it and then I'd be like, I'm cracking up
out myself, and then I would call this to be like,
it was so good this week.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
It so good.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's so cute. I wish we knew like stuff like
that was going on when it was happening. You just don't, like,
do you guys experience that in what you do now
with the podcast and like all the different social media platforms,
Like are you able to tell that you're reaching people
in that way? Like I think it was there was
such a block.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Connected to your fan Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean I think like the obviously, like since
you guys are like more traditional media talent, like you
guys are traditional celebrities in the sense that you went
like a TV route, and obviously Dasa and I are
more social media which is kind of a newer way,
like within the last ten years or so. And I
feel like we feel it probably a lot sooner than
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you guys did, because you guys are so like it's
almost like you're closed off from the world, like you're
in a little bubble and then you don't see it
until you like go out and like whether you're going
out literally or you like go on tour or anything
like that. And I feel like for Das and I
we went on tour earlier this year when we toured
Two Idiot Girls, which is our first time, my first
time touring ever, like doing any sort of live anything.
Same with Days that was like I don't get nervous
(35:58):
for really anything at all, but tour. I was shipping
Bricks Girl.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I was nervous. I was like, I was like, we
need to drink.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
I was like, yeah, for real.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
So like that experience I think even then too, was
the first time like you get to hear them laugh
in real time, and like you get to see their
faces and meet them and hear how much you're like
our content has helped them and how much they love it.
And I think like even one of the things that
stands out to me is like I told a story
(36:32):
on an episode like from early last year about this
guy that would not leave my house, Like he tricked
me into having breakfast in my house and then like
wouldn't leave. And you know when you like want to
eat your food and watch your show and they want to.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Watch I want to watch Glee and eat.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I might have done that a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I was like my meat, that's my me time, like,
and he would not leave my food getting cold.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I'm like, girl, get out.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
But there was like a point in the show where
I made a joke and I was like, well drive safe, brother,
and I because I was trying to get him to
be leave like really fast, and a lot of twity
girls fans kept saying that to me, and I was
like where did she? Guys, Like I was like that
from because like so many of them kept saying it
to me. And then dayson was like, dude, you said
it in one of our episodes and I was like
(37:19):
I did so like I went back and rewatched it
and then I was like, first of all, I rewatch it,
and I'm like god, I'm so funny were killing it.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
You and I are killing it.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
But then I remember too, I feel like when I
watched it, I was like, damn, like I cannot believe.
Like it's like an inside joke that they have now
in our little community, and I feel like that was
one of the first times I remember thinking, like that's cool,
Like you guys are are loving our our episodes and
our humor, and you guys are absorbing our jokes and
you're using them in everyday life. Like I think that's
so sick. So it's so awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I mean us like tour because you're going back out
on tour again, aren't you.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Yes, we are next year.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
We sure are.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
And it was so much fun.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
I'm sure you guys had the same experience, Like nothing
bonds you like tour girl, like something about tour, Like
you guys have a living experience.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh yeah, I love trauma bonding.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Yeah, true, very true.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
But the trauma bonding is real. Yeah, it's so real.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Tours a weird experience. It's so weird, weird. It's like
I also think that you have that bond too with
anybody who's ever toured. I think in any capacity, there's
this like unspoken thing, like you've been on tour, you know,
it's like a weird, lonely high high and then everyone leaves.
You're like, now what my mom wants my phone call?
(38:41):
No one cares. I just have fifteen thousand people screaming
my name. Now what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Go back to my hotel?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, like I could say anything in this whole crowd
would laugh at anything I did.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Literally, seriously, I'm like, none of you guys laugh near
as hard as the people in the crowd did.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yokes, And then you wonder why people go crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
We did.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
We did a little baby tour too, like we only
did four four shows, but like it was all along
the coast of California, and even then I was like,
I'm exhausted by the last one. So I can't even
imagine doing an international multi month or girl, I don't
know how you guys did. Yeah, are just sitting in
chairs and being stupid for like just getting drunk while
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we're talking.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
And then like yours is like actual performance.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I can't even think, actually, no, don't tell yourself short.
That is hard because we at least, like I think
we had music, we had dancers, we have Pyro. There's
things like protect you. Yeah, like look over here, look
over here. I mean you guys go out that you
it's you're the show, you guys.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Yeah, so true. We're equally worked just as hard.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
But it works so hard us.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
It worked so hard equally across the board. How this
next door, our next door is going to be I
think for four and a half five weeks. So we're
doing an international or not international sorry US tour. Yeah,
so we're starting on the East Coast and then we'll
be working our way back to California.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So you had a couple weeks off and you're like
four shows. We could do more than that.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Seriously, my our manager, he was telling us like, we'll
just do this baby one kind of get the feel
of it and see how it goes.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
And it did really well. We sold out our four shows.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
So now our next big one, we're gonna be like
like he's like, all right, cool, and now.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
We're gonna do the whole us.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, you're going to see a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, I can't even imagine all those fails. You can
just play some glee music.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
They're gonna love it, and they would love it every night,
we would walk out to hold on by the Jonas brothers.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Maybe we'll do a Lisia, perhaps will switch.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
In my guy.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
That's a great idea, that's a great.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yeah hell yeah right.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
We just got to the trouble Tones in the show,
so we're in like really big trouble Tones.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
That was one of my favorite episodes too.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Because nobody's better than them. I feel like nobody talks
about them enough. I feel like treble Tones were.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
It and and Top by a Dina Menzel. Come on, now,
get into a girl.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
You don't see it funny when we watched Glee, like
we don't.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I don't have a big Broadway background, Like you guys
were talking about Wicked before we started.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
I just saw Wicked for the first time, I think
in like March or April.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Drew took me to us like to go see I've
never seen it, and I absolutely loved it. I thought
it was amazing. So when they had like Christian Chenna
with and Adina Menzel, even Jonathan Groff, I was like,
I don't know who any of these people are. People
be o, did you see who's on Gleamo?
Speaker 6 (41:42):
I don't know who that is. I was, but I
knew I.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Was the same. I didn't know anything.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
We had to school. Kevin Y.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I was like, this Christian woman is really nice and.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
A living Really someone should sign her.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Weren't you from?
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Like I love I love, love love Broadway, so like
I feel like I'm constantly taking my boyfriend and my
sister to go see Broadway shows just because I want
them to be educated again American history. And I feel
even with the with the like the representation of Broadway
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on the show, I was like, certified, certified if I could,
if I, if I could sing, girl, I'd be dominating
the world.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
Like the universe.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Knew whoever the higher power is, they knew to not
get me the gift of singing because I'd be too powerful.
I'd be way too powerful.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
So I'm jealous.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
I wish we could sing, Like y'all know.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
What a gift to bring your sister to Wicked.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
You know, I'm telling you, I'm telling And we were late.
I'm late everywhere, but we were late, so we did
have to stand and watch the first number in the
foyer and then they took us to our seats.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
But it was one out of ten.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
You still got to find gravity. You're fine, Yeah, that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
I got all all the good stuff, even when we
I remember at the intermission there was a woman sitting
next to Dayson and then she was like, excuse me,
and then Dayson was like, oh yeah, she she thought
she had to get up or something, and she goes, no,
do you know what this show is like about? And
then my sister, what intermission? Girl, we watched the first half.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
What do you mean you don't know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I know as much as you literally were on the
same show.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
I'm just waiting for to find gravity.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
I have all the information that you have, girl, Like
I've been sitting here.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
The same time.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Did you love it? Dayson?
Speaker 6 (43:43):
I loved it?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
It was so good?
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Ye, amazing.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Well, we are so grateful you guys came on. Thank
you so much for chatting Glee with us, and congratulations
on your success, your podcast, your individual success, for lifting
up all of the communities, for going on tour.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Congratulations you guys see them on We're gonna have to go.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Yeah, yes, oh my gosh, please do I would love
to have We would both love to have you. Thank
you guys so much for having us.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
This is the same no, thanks for making the time.
Go listen and subscribe comment section and too, idiot Girls
that you guys are the best, so good.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Thank you so Much'll you guys can give me the
tea you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Can give us. Oh yes, we'll stop recording and tell
you what.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Thank you guys so.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Much for Thank you guys, Thanks guys.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Oh my goodness, how fun was that?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I'm sweating? They're so cool? What chemistry they have to
just want to hang out with them?
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Well their probably feels like you're hanging out with them too.
That's kind of like their thing, which I love. They
Thank you to Drew and Jason for coming on taking
the time to chat with us talking about their Glee fandom,
and also go check out their tour and their podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
To Idiot Girls, Jenna A, we're going to the tour.
We gotta get tickets and we're going. Okay, let's go. Okay,
I want to see them easy, all right. Thank you
to Drew and Jason again for joining us. Thank you
all for listening. And That's what you really miss Bye.
Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and
That's what you Really miss pod. Make sure to write
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US a review and leave US five stars. See you
next time.
And That's what you Really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's What Really Missed podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We have a two very special guests today.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yes, normally it's just one, but today we double the pleasure,
double the fun. I hate myself, this is this dad joke.
I have a real problems.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Today we have Drew and Jason and I came from
two idiot girls and I could not be more excited.
They are gleeks and they are also very funny, very
funny and sisters. This is like a dream combo over here.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I didn't want it to end. I'm so excited for
all of you to jump into this conversation because I mean,
if you don't follow one of them on TikTok, what
are you doing? What are you doing if you haven't
listened to one of Drew's two podcasts, and Drew and
Jayson have a podcast, are you get on it? Come on?
They are the best. Enjoy how's it going good? Thank
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you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We've been huge Glee fans forever, so when we got
the messages, we were like, so this is super exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, the fandom is mutual. I assure you, yes, we
were talking about because you had this segment one of
your episodes when you were trying to you're talking about
Glee songs, just random Glee songs, and the way you
two talked about what the song was is exactly how
Jenna and I should know what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
You're in it.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Do you remember way more than we did?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, you know the number where they're dressed in black
and they're like, I'm like, how do they remember this?
I have no recollection. Jenna and I will be texting
each other like do you remember doing this thing with?
What song was this? Like we have to google ship
because we don't know. Like, this is very relatable. You
too could have a Glee podcast. It doesn't take much.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, if you guys ever want to pass the torch,
let us know.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Okay, I mean it would be an honor. Welcome you guys,
Thanks for coming on the show. We're very excited to
have you. There's I don't even know where to start
you guys, there's just a lot to chat about. Maybe
let's talk about you guys first, because I just want
to know more about your story.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I want to know about like how your podcast came
to be how your tiktoks all came to be because
you're like massive on your own in your own right
and then like together, so like was.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
This always the plan? Like were you, you know, like
making this plan when you were very little.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I think that both Dayson and I were just really
like we just love to entertain and like we love
to tell stories, we love to be funny, and so
so I think we both wanted to work in the
entertainment industry to some degree. I think for me, I
was I thought it was going to be sports, Like
I thought sports commentating was gonna be my thing. And
(03:09):
Dason actually majored in film in college, so I think
she was gonna planning on doing more behind the scenes
stuff and we just kind of fell into this. We
actually started our podcast before I grew my platform on TikTok,
So it was we just, yeah, we were ready. We
were ready and waiting for the perfect opportunity. I think
(03:32):
we just like we make ourselves laugh really hard, so
we were like, we should start a podcast, Like everyone
they're just like, I'm hilarious, other people should hear me.
And so we actually started our podcast first, and then
Dason actually moved to New York, and so we were
kind of doing it on Zoom for a while, and
then we had to take a break for a little.
Then my platform blew up really big, and then we
(03:55):
resumed the podcast and then now we have like a
studio and a team and it's just been like the
craziest random ride.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
But it's been great.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
God.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I love that because it was sort of you know,
it's like the Oprah model. I feel like if one
comes up, everybody comes up. Like you bring your closest
people with you, and then it's easy because no one's
You don't have to question motives of people. You know,
you guys are inherently funny. Yeah, and like and now
it's been verified. People appreciate what we're.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Saying, and now no, Kevin and Jenna said, so, so
now it has.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
To be Yeah, it's verified.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Now you've checked exactly. The bar is low. I guess
if we're the ones that you need.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
To verify it, do you re find that like as
like siblings, like there's you guys like it ever affects
your relationship working together.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think my mom moves brought up for two years apart,
so we grew up like kind of like twins, Like
every time I got to do something, like like you have.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
To wait till you're thirteen to do something, and then
Drew could do it at eleven. That was always the case.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So I think we just grew up so close forever
that when it came time to like start a business together,
it was like almost second nature. Like it's easy for
us to work together, Like even our mom, she's one
of our managers.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Like, that's super easy for us as well.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
I think.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, there's gonna be times where we like, of course,
like argue. That's probably the biggest question we get most
of the time, like what's your big ish fight?
Speaker 6 (05:25):
I'm like, why would I tell you that?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
But for the most part, I think it's pretty seamless
because we know each other so well, and I think
it just.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Is it's so easy, you know, Like I feel like
the best way to.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Learn if you're gonna like someone in your life is
like going on vacation together. And like we've been on
vacation with each other my entire life. I'm almost thirty, so.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
This is easy.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It was a second nature to us, and it's just
been really fun the whole time, Like every time we
get to do something new like this, Like, it's always
really exciting getting to do it together.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Even if just Drow got to come on, I would
be so excited for her and I.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Would under I would have had her mic setup like
that's I've never Yeah, I've just never.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
We've never been raised to be jealous of each other.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's always been to be really supportive and yeah, super easy.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It is special having someone to share all those experiences with,
because it's a very for you guys, and Jenna and
I have talked about this a lot for like the
Glee stuff, but with you guys, it's such a specific
experience getting to where you are now that at least
you always have someone to be able like remember they
get it or they are like, oh god, I hate
this person. You have that shared experience for the good
(06:30):
and bad. Because I always feel when you see like
big musicians or movie stars, even though they successful and
all that, I always in the back of my mind,
I'm like, am I suck because you don't have someone
to be that close with, to share that everything with
like you have each other. And I feel like it's
such an invaluable part of this whole experience.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think I think too, like even
for like for us personally, like obviously like days and said,
we're sisters. You know, when you have new relationships, whether
they're like platonic romantic business, sometimes you go through those
phases where you struggle to like communicate things to each other.
Jason and I already got past that because we're siblings.
(07:12):
So like if we ever have issues or problems with
each other, or we we have like in the sense
that we're like frustrated with each other, or there's something
that bothers one of us and not the other, we're
very good at talking to each other because we're siblings.
So I feel like that communication a lot of times
is what makes going into business with friends or family
hard is because you don't have that relationship already established
(07:35):
where you can be open and honest with each other
as well as like shared experience like you said, Kevin,
and I think we have that. We're really lucky to
have a very strong family unit. So my mom and
dad have always been like you guys are sisters first,
and then the business comes, so like nothing's more important
than your bond with each other. So like, if I
(07:55):
had to choose between the business and my sister. Obviously,
I'm going to choose my sister every time, and so
I think I think that like those boundaries established long
ago for us to be able to talk to each
other and then also remembering that nothing's more important than
each other, and how we love each other and support
each other, I think it's made it a lot easier
(08:16):
than like going into a business with like a stranger
or someone you don't know, or newly starting something with
someone you barely know. I think that's why it works
really well with us, thankfully.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, and I'm sure it also makes what you're doing
better too. Yeah. People can feel that, people can hear it,
and people can see it, and so it affects you've
got some good parents. You know, we've seen too often
when somebody has success and you don't have that foundation,
that stable foundation, that things can vary things. With success,
(08:51):
things are thrown at you all the time and you
have access to all these new things and opportunities and vices,
whatever it may be. Yeah, without that stable with support
and foundation, then people can, you know, get caught up
very easily. So sounds like that's what happened in.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Here, thankfully, I know. I feel like our family keeps
us pretty humble, which is a good thing. I like,
I tell this joke all the time, Like when I
first started growing a platform on TikTok, our grandfather, like
my maternal grandfather, he was like, well, your mom tells
me that you're like doing stuff online and I was like, oh, yeah,
(09:31):
you know, just like making videos. And he's old this
ship obviously, and then he was like, uh. He goes, yeah, TikTok,
and I'm like yeah, he goes, I have a TikTok.
I'm like, oh, word, do you like it? And then
he goes, yeah, but I've never watched you. And I
was like, oh, okay, why not And he goes.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I don't need to see all that.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And I'm like all that or something.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I have no clue, Like what do you think He
still hasn't watched me to this day, And you know what,
that's okay, even.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Its working, you know what.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
And that's that's my immediate family. So you know, it's humbling.
That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I think you need that.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Like in this world.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
When when Glee started, my brother was going to college
in England and so he sort of missed like what
was happening here, and yes, and I went. Jenna and
I went there together for the summer and also to
your point of being able to travel with somebody, it
was this trip where we really cemented our life beyond
because not only could we travel together, we excelled at
(10:35):
life we did abroad together, Like, oh, this works, right.
But my brother gets to the hotel and he's like,
why do you have security? Look at your face? No
one wants to talk to you. What is this what
It's like? You're ugly, you nothing, and you have a
giant head. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I agree, I
have a mirror. However, wait till we go outside. And
(10:56):
then he was like, I get it. But the whole thing,
you know, we're just riddled with insults every holiday. You guys,
keep me your family, you roast please.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I wanted to talk about these, these takedowns of toxic men.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Oh yeah, let's get into it speaking.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Of people who start podcasts.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Okay, So Drew, You're like, tell me what was the
impetus to do these? Did you notice these men first?
Have you always like thought about this? Where did that
come from? Because they're really funny?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Thank you, thank you. I think in the In the beginning,
I was kind of just posting funny story times of
my own, like unfortunate dating experiences. I mean, I feel
like that's just a ride of passage if you unfortunately
day men. And so I was kind of telling silly
stories and they like dug it. They thought it was fun.
(12:07):
And then my first video to like really ever go
viral was not even like a roast. Really it was,
well it was, but it wasn't like at someone specific.
It was they asked me, well, the prompt was some
very specific red flags and men that you have, and
so I like had a whole list. I had like
twelve things and I just listed them all out. And
(12:29):
then that was my very first video to like really
go viral. And I got a whole bunch of people
being like, this is so funny, this is so true
like normal stuff. Like They're like, I can relate. And
then I got a whole lot of men who really
didn't like that, you know, hate hearing all the terrible
things they do to us.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And so.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I remember when I got all the hate. I had
never experienced anything like that before. I'm very normal. Prior
to this industry, I worked normal jobs. We both went
to college, like we graduated, We did all the normal
life things already up until that point. So I had
never experienced hate like that, and I thought it was funny.
I thought we were all laughing and goofing, so I
(13:15):
started goofing back. And turns out it worked out really
well for me and for them.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So curious, okay, I see.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Oh yeah, I mean, and has the backlash of like
these unwanted men do they.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Has it gotten worse over time or has it gotten better.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
It's definitely gotten better in the sense that they've gotten
better at either running from me or hiding it. So
I learning how the internet works exactly the digital footprint.
They were like, people can see this what? So I
think that realization kind of helped them this year. But
(13:57):
there was a point, like when I really started growing
that it was just every day, every single day, I
was like getting hundreds of thousands of comments videos like
horrible things said about me. But I don't care what
mediocre men think about my looks, so it doesn't bother me,
and I feel like that part bothered them. And even so,
like with two idiot girls, like sometimes we'll get a
(14:20):
rando like just coming in there and be like, you
guys are the biggest people have ever seen in my life,
Like the funnest people I've ever seen. And we will
find that funny because like I don't, like, neither of
us are pigmies, so male validation means nothing to either
of us. She's gay and I'm wiped up, so I
really don't care. Like neither of us care to be honest,
(14:41):
So like we care more about hate. Like the hate
that we care more about is like when people are
like the sound is bad, totally, that's the one that
I'm like, I'm like, gosh, days, we have to think
about it. That's the only literally.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're preaching to the choir.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Talent.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
That's the only kind of hate we really care about
and the only hate we really get. So Jason's gay,
so like she really doesn't care what men think.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was gonna say since you started, you know, I
think your platform in that way, we're like, here's so
you shitty people listen up here. You also have just
been I feel like that's maybe made it easier because
you guys have lifted up so many communities like the
LGBTQ community and Aapian community and the trans community. Was
that just because of I mean, it sounds like because
(15:36):
of who you are all are like inherently that would like,
let's just use this in a positive way, like this
attention and make sure we stick up for these you know,
often suppressed and forgotten about communities. Was that important since
the beginning to sort of go for that?
Speaker 6 (15:52):
I mean, I think Drew when people ask me, like,
has you always been like this?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And like, my whole life has always been Drew like
standing up to bullies, like no matter what it's for,
if you're like people are making fun of your body
or what you look like. My sister has always been
the first one to like stand up, especially me. I
got bullied a lot when I was younger because I
was gay and shine I didn't want to talk to people,
and Drew is always there.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
And I think that's why a lot of people think
she's older than me, even though I'm older technically, But.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I think it just my mom has always taught us
to stand up for what's right and to stand up
for other people. And I think growing up feeling like
both of us feeling othered because we were always like
the only song one girls in the class, or you know,
Drew just like one hundred feet tall and.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Most boys on my stuff like that. But there's just
little things that I'm gay like, there's just little things
like that that I think we've always we know what
that feels like.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And I think being able to be like a pacificer
representation for our people is like on it the one
part that makes both of us very I mean, I
cry all the.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Time, but she doesn't it, but that part like will
really get us.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
That's why we always talk about the Rock because he's
always been our only form of like someone representation, Like
I remember when Mulwana came out and stuff like that.
So I think it's just always been easy for us
to want to stand up for other people.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And I think being able to build like a little community.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Of people like us or people who are like us
that want to learn more about people like us or
feel a part of the community is like a really
special part of our platform for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Because then you're you're expanding that because now it's not
just the Rock. Yeah, you guys are in conversation exactly.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
You've done exactly. I think I too, even for for me,
like the show, my comment section show and Twity eight
Girls obviously are two different podcasts, but like, I feel
like the energy is very different for both of them.
So like the comment section obviously is more like Tac
Too E and we talk about funny things and silly
things and serious things. But on twity eight Girls, I
(17:44):
feel like it's so a much different side of me
and like my personality and like the things that I like,
like Glee for example, Like sometimes we talk about stuff
on two D eight Girls that they're like, I didn't
know you liked Glee. I'm like girl, because you guys
don't care about anything that I talk about that not
me making fun of a man. I am so much
more multifaceted girl first, and then I hated men. I'm
(18:07):
just kidding, made ye. Yeah, I'm like Glee. Glee made
me love literally everyone but men, so every marginalized person
except men.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So let's talk about Glee.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, did you guys watch it when it came out?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Or when did? When was your introduction to Glee?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
The first episode I can remember watching all the way through,
which has my favorite Glee cover in it is the
problem one where they do I'm not going to teach
your way for how to answer to you. That's the
best we cover. I don't care, like that's the best one.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I think it's Darren's best. I think that's it's so good.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Everyone's talking about Sumer that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Or the coup is one of my friends of Darren's.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I think it's so funny that people I'm not I'm
not going to teach it about your boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'm just flabbergasted at it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I really do you hate it?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I don't love it.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
It just does something to me.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't know, there's no judgment. I'm probably the minority here.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I just We've had a lot of fans who say it,
and I'm like, maybe because I did it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I don't know, like because I was like that day, Yeah,
I might have hated it that day. It's very possible.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, I feel like maybe that's your association to actually
filming it is bad.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Okay, I love hearing this.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Okay, you guys mean like a lot of Glee songs,
like on your podcast that I was very impressed with.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Keep keep talking about your the songs you guys like.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Oh, I was wait, I was going to say, I
think I'm not going to teach your byfriend. ID answer
to you, I think a big reason why a lot
of us love that one other than the obvious like Darren,
Chris is obviously so talented, all of you are that
we're involved in the song. But I think it's because,
like obviously, Darren plays a a gay man on the show,
and I feel like that was one of those where
you were kind of like, wait a minute, am.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I attracted to this? Yeah, I'm I kind of like,
hold on, I'm thinking about it a little bit.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
So long, Yeah, like genuine believe because they're kind of like,
hold on, he's eating.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I think it's because it's the most Darren song, like
the other ones are Blaine, that is very much I
feel like Darren. Okay, because I was watching, I was like, oh,
this it's Darren. This works for me on a different level.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I'm telling you. You're kind of like, well.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
This is when we first started seeing like Darren in
out of warbler outfit, so we didn't see him with
like the slick hair over and seeing him in like more.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Darren esque, you know, Darren Blayne. That makes sense, Okay.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I think that's the draw for the most because oviously
it's like gay women, gay men, and then a bunch
of straight women were kind of like.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I'm attracted to this game.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He wouldn't be the first. The amount of my life
people who have told me like Darren's got like the whitest,
like the widest, like every demographic likes Derek. Yes, he's
doing everybody. Yeah yeah, I mean not all of us
got to play super likable characters, okay, misogynistic.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I liked Arty's character. Your cover of Isn't She Lovely?
I think is amazing at tournament. You know which one
I think is Man in the Mirror? I think Man
in the Mirror is so long? That's one of my
favorite one. One of my favorite GENA ones was which
is the one I couldn't remember but I looked it
up after is the first time ever I saw your face?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
The one I would.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Think, you know, one of my favorite?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, yeah, black though.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
For that one, I thought you were That's what the
vision in my head was that And then when everyone
was like, what are you talking about? I was like
trying to sing the song because I don't know the
words to anything out.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's the one I was thinking that you were thinking of.
So I was with you. I was with you.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
That's my favorite love that one.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay, interesting you also mentioned this is also well I
have two questions. Okay, so you mentioned you really liked
Pure Imagination. Was this only because you like Wi Wanka?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Because I hate that song?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
But I also I thought it was I didn't expect
that cover and I thought it was done really well.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
That was my impersonation.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, fair enough, fair.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Enough, another weird day for Jenna.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
That a really weird day for me.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I'm like, why are you taking all my triggering episodes
like this? While thank you very much, I'm your therapist,
space Jenna.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Okay, safe space.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Then I have I have a question for you, guys.
What do you think of Run Joey Run? Do you
remember to Run Joey Run?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
I think I do. I think I'm thinking of if
I'm thinking of the right one.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's the weird video that Rachel put together with like
all the.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. I mean this is me being
a little biased. If I don't know the song, I
may not love it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
How got it?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
However, if it has like a kick ass B then
I might be like, Okay, hold on, because a song
like I rewatched Lee recently actually like a couple of
years ago, I like rewatched it from front to back.
Still holds up to this day. Everyone. I rewatched it
a few a couple of years ago, and I wanted
(23:47):
my boyfriend to watch it because he had never seen
it before. So I was like, you would idea about
American history history.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
In TV, I'm going to give you a lesson institutions.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, So we rewatched it, like from front to back.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And then he didn't break up with you.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
No, he did not.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
In fact, I actually have been Darren Chris actually yeah,
he saw it.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
He was like, all right, but.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I even I even have videos of him, like I
was watching I was recording him watching the Brittany episode,
and I remember he was watching so intensely that I
recorded videos of him because he was like because he
was just so enthralled to do it. Yeah, and so
I even even when I rewatched it, I forgot about
(24:38):
Party all the time, the like cover that I think
it was.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Is it Gwyneth Paltrow?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
That's Who's does she do?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Party all the time?
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I remember, I remember Darren, I remember I think Leo
was in there. I forget the rest of the cast
that was evolved, but.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
There was a lot I didn't know that song.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
And then when I saw the Yeah, when I rewatched.
When I rewatched the cup, I was like, hold on,
this song kind of eat, so let me look it up.
And I didn't know that song was by Eddie Murphy Hello,
like the only song he ever. I had no idea
that he made song. And I looked it up and
I put both the cover and the original.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I'll put him on a plaist.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I was jealous. I wasn't on that because I was like,
I like this song.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
It's a good song, but I had never heard it before.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
My point bang, if I don't know it, I won't
gravitate towards it unless it bangs.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
And then I'm like, I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And I so see. It was an education. We were educating.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Exactly exactly American history.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
American history.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
We were like, this is what being gay is, number
one everyone, and here's some old music you've never heard.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Exactly exactly. Even when I showed my boyfriend in the
first like four seasons, he was like, this show is
so like representative, and I was like, I know it
was groundbreaking, groundbreaking at the time on television.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Girl that's craic tell cast members when they would come on,
like in later seas, like if you're not gay yet,
give it six months, strap strap in, or at least
try it once to see if you're like just listen
(26:19):
also a good cover. Listen was also a very okay.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You talked about how will I know who did that?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I know?
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Amber?
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Amber was Yeah, so just so you know, on a rewatch,
we're just starting season three, so we haven't gotten there
yet because for us we remember seasons one and two
very well.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Season three on it's a little, i mean very fuzzy.
We don't remember.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
We're essentially watching it for the first time. There's so
much that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Is that so crazy to like watch yourselves back, like
especially years ago, Like you're like, don't even know that person?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
No, I was like, I was terrible. How did I
get this job? Was luckily something because.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, I was broke at least in the audition.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yeah, I'm saying I'm so interested how it was. Because
you guys filmed for so long and I feel like
through such formative years that you were like experienced like
growing up actively and acting at the same time.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, colleges.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, in like your formative years where we were so
lucky in so many ways, Like all of us who
had just booked the show from the beginning, like the pilot,
we were all basically broke. I mean, we had dollars
in our bank accounts and we had to ask them
to send our first check early because we all were
living on nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I was driving a car that I had totaled but
was still driving it because I had so.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
We were fairly lucky.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah. And then you attach yourself to these people who,
like we were talking about earlier, like only they can
understand what you're going through.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
So these people that we, you know, worked with in
our twenties, who we may not have been friends with
ever again if you were in any other setting, are
now family that you know, you're tied together for better
or for worse. And so it was it was really
they're just really important people. Is a really important time.
But also like we don't remember because we attached ourselves
(28:29):
to the memories and to where we were in the time,
and so like watching it back, you're like it's like
sense memory or you've blocked it from your memory completely.
You're like, I don't it's like short term. You're like
you go in to do like, you know, a math quiz, right,
and you don't remember the shit after you walk out
of the room, and it's like that you were like,
what line, what episode am I doing today? How does
(28:50):
my character feel? And then like you move on to
the next thing, and so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
I know, I have another question. I'm so sorry. I'm
like me taking over your interview. I'm so curious when
you guys like saw it on on like TV for
the first time, was it like crazy to be a
part of something that was so progressive, especially for the time,
Like I mean, like was that like surreal? Was it
like hard dealing with it in real life? Like you know,
like some people were really kissed off at Glee, like
(29:16):
when it first came out, like and it had all
this queer representation, ethnic representation, right, it had it had
so many different levels of like not just representation in
the sense of like marginalized identities, but also like family
situations like divorce, cheating, like you know, like just all
(29:37):
kinds of stuff that people, like the human experience, like
people experience in real life, but I've never seen on
sitcom before. Like was that like hard for you guys
to deal with it in real life or was it
like more great than it was bad.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
I'm just so curious.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I mean, I think in the beginning, for me at least,
it was like, oh, this is just all my interests,
Like let's get like weird and queer and satirical. Yeah,
and so I didn't think about I mean, I think
for us too, it's like getting a job is so hard,
and then you get this thing that you find really funny,
and everyone who works on it is so nice and
(30:11):
you're obsessed with each other and so like, we got
to film a lot of it before anybody saw anything,
So I don't think a lot of us necessarily were
able to have the foresight to be like, what are
people going to think about this? Because for a lot
of it was our first thing. But I think as
soon as it came out and you started and we
could only experience like what people thought to an extent
(30:32):
because we were so protected in our little sound stages
and just working every day and having a blast. But
when you were able to i don't know, re reviews
or meet people on the street and get that sort
of thing that you were just talking about from such
a variety of people, it was absolutely mind boggling, because
(30:53):
I've always said, like, it's great to get a job
and you love that, but to actually do something that
is meaningful to people outside of just like we're clowns.
We're making them laugh, we're singing and dancing, but also
people are seeing themselves and do feel like they're seeing
themselves for the first time. And it's also an experience
that people can watch with their whole families and that
(31:15):
was a really special thing and I think as time
went on we got to realize that. But at first
it was just like, what's happening, Like, are we going
to keep doing this or do people first.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, when we recorded or when we were shooting, and
then you know, like Kevin said, we didn't They didn't
see like the first thirteen episodes until we were done
shooting them. And so we went off to Australia and
did some tours and promotional things, and then people, you know,
it started to air and then we started to feel it.
And I don't think we had the foresight to really
think about it, but as we did, and it felt
(31:52):
like it started to feel like an honor and a
responsibility because it felt like something that we were wrap
sending people who had never been represented before on television
like the Rock for you guys like I see a
lot of Asian representation on TV.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
They were exact people.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
And so for little girls to be come up to
me and be like, thank you, you're just in for
like Chris Colfer, for example, plays like such an iconic
gay character to like, it's such a responsibility and like
and just so many people you started to feel like
the outpouring of that. And then on the other side
of it, like Christian groups would come after us and
(32:31):
just like, I don't know anything you could possibly imagine
there was somebody that was protesting our show because we
were doing something wrong. We're honestly, like, I can't believe that,
like broadcast television like Fox was like allowing us to
say some of the things we actually said.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
We were kind of floored by it.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But if they have family, guy, they are used to it.
You know, sure, they're just happy something was successful.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah, they're like, honestly, and you know what's so funny too,
is my boyfriend when we when he watched because obviously
he watched it for the first so I'm like watching
him watch it for the first time.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
He was cracking up, girl, Like.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
He was laughing. He's like, this show is funny. I
was like, I'm telling you. They do showes and they
do jokes. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Like what a weird combination.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
So good.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So, now that you've rewatched it, what for both of you?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Like?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
What seasons do you love the most? And like what episode?
Like do you have episodes that like stand out to you?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Guys?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Ooh, that's such a hard question. I would say like
two to five seasons two to five are like money money,
even when you all moved to Even when everyone moved
to New York, I was.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I was in it.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I was still watching You're still there when the original
cast I graduated. Oh, I was in it. I was involved.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
What about what do I do? I think season two
and three are my favorites. Those are the ones I
always speak of when I think of watching.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, I was in college, like I was like, like
Rachel and everyone's like moving to New York, and I
was like, yeah, like watching the same, yeah, the same.
I loved it, like all the way through.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I could not get enough of it. I was still
listening to Glee walking to class. I'm like, same so
much funny. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Say.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
We would literally call each other because we were in
college at the same time obviously, in like twenty thirteen,
twenty fourteen, and we would call each other and be like,
she would tell me, did you watch Glee this week?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
I'm like, you watch it and then call.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Me, oh, like okay.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I would watch it in my little TV that was
like this big in my dorm room, and I would
watch it and then I'd be like, I'm cracking up
out myself, and then I would call this to be like,
it was so good this week.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
It so good.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's so cute. I wish we knew like stuff like
that was going on when it was happening. You just don't, like,
do you guys experience that in what you do now
with the podcast and like all the different social media platforms,
Like are you able to tell that you're reaching people
in that way? Like I think it was there was
such a block.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Connected to your fan Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean I think like the obviously, like since
you guys are like more traditional media talent, like you
guys are traditional celebrities in the sense that you went
like a TV route, and obviously Dasa and I are
more social media which is kind of a newer way,
like within the last ten years or so. And I
feel like we feel it probably a lot sooner than
(35:36):
you guys did, because you guys are so like it's
almost like you're closed off from the world, like you're
in a little bubble and then you don't see it
until you like go out and like whether you're going
out literally or you like go on tour or anything
like that. And I feel like for Das and I
we went on tour earlier this year when we toured
Two Idiot Girls, which is our first time, my first
time touring ever, like doing any sort of live anything.
Same with Days that was like I don't get nervous
(35:58):
for really anything at all, but tour. I was shipping
Bricks Girl.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I was nervous. I was like, I was like, we
need to drink.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
I was like, yeah, for real.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
So like that experience I think even then too, was
the first time like you get to hear them laugh
in real time, and like you get to see their
faces and meet them and hear how much you're like
our content has helped them and how much they love it.
And I think like even one of the things that
stands out to me is like I told a story
(36:32):
on an episode like from early last year about this
guy that would not leave my house, Like he tricked
me into having breakfast in my house and then like
wouldn't leave. And you know when you like want to
eat your food and watch your show and they want to.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Watch I want to watch Glee and eat.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I might have done that a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I was like my meat, that's my me time, like,
and he would not leave my food getting cold.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I'm like, girl, get out.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
But there was like a point in the show where
I made a joke and I was like, well drive safe, brother,
and I because I was trying to get him to
be leave like really fast, and a lot of twity
girls fans kept saying that to me, and I was
like where did she? Guys, Like I was like that
from because like so many of them kept saying it
to me. And then dayson was like, dude, you said
it in one of our episodes and I was like
(37:19):
I did so like I went back and rewatched it
and then I was like, first of all, I rewatch it,
and I'm like god, I'm so funny were killing it.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
You and I are killing it.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
But then I remember too, I feel like when I
watched it, I was like, damn, like I cannot believe.
Like it's like an inside joke that they have now
in our little community, and I feel like that was
one of the first times I remember thinking, like that's cool,
Like you guys are are loving our our episodes and
our humor, and you guys are absorbing our jokes and
you're using them in everyday life. Like I think that's
so sick. So it's so awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I mean us like tour because you're going back out
on tour again, aren't you.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Yes, we are next year.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
We sure are.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
And it was so much fun.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
I'm sure you guys had the same experience, Like nothing
bonds you like tour girl, like something about tour, Like
you guys have a living experience.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh yeah, I love trauma bonding.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Yeah, true, very true.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
But the trauma bonding is real. Yeah, it's so real.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Tours a weird experience. It's so weird, weird. It's like
I also think that you have that bond too with
anybody who's ever toured. I think in any capacity, there's
this like unspoken thing, like you've been on tour, you know,
it's like a weird, lonely high high and then everyone leaves.
You're like, now what my mom wants my phone call?
(38:41):
No one cares. I just have fifteen thousand people screaming
my name. Now what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Go back to my hotel?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, like I could say anything in this whole crowd
would laugh at anything I did.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Literally, seriously, I'm like, none of you guys laugh near
as hard as the people in the crowd did.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yokes, And then you wonder why people go crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
We did.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
We did a little baby tour too, like we only
did four four shows, but like it was all along
the coast of California, and even then I was like,
I'm exhausted by the last one. So I can't even
imagine doing an international multi month or girl, I don't
know how you guys did. Yeah, are just sitting in
chairs and being stupid for like just getting drunk while
(39:29):
we're talking.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
And then like yours is like actual performance.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I can't even think, actually, no, don't tell yourself short.
That is hard because we at least, like I think
we had music, we had dancers, we have Pyro. There's
things like protect you. Yeah, like look over here, look
over here. I mean you guys go out that you
it's you're the show, you guys.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Yeah, so true. We're equally worked just as hard.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
But it works so hard us.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
It worked so hard equally across the board. How this
next door, our next door is going to be I
think for four and a half five weeks. So we're
doing an international or not international sorry US tour. Yeah,
so we're starting on the East Coast and then we'll
be working our way back to California.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So you had a couple weeks off and you're like
four shows. We could do more than that.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Seriously, my our manager, he was telling us like, we'll
just do this baby one kind of get the feel
of it and see how it goes.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
And it did really well. We sold out our four shows.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
So now our next big one, we're gonna be like
like he's like, all right, cool, and now.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
We're gonna do the whole us.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, you're going to see a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, I can't even imagine all those fails. You can
just play some glee music.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
They're gonna love it, and they would love it every night,
we would walk out to hold on by the Jonas brothers.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Maybe we'll do a Lisia, perhaps will switch.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
In my guy.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
That's a great idea, that's a great.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yeah hell yeah right.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
We just got to the trouble Tones in the show,
so we're in like really big trouble Tones.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
That was one of my favorite episodes too.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Because nobody's better than them. I feel like nobody talks
about them enough. I feel like treble Tones were.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
It and and Top by a Dina Menzel. Come on, now,
get into a girl.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
You don't see it funny when we watched Glee, like
we don't.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I don't have a big Broadway background, Like you guys
were talking about Wicked before we started.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
I just saw Wicked for the first time, I think
in like March or April.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Drew took me to us like to go see I've
never seen it, and I absolutely loved it. I thought
it was amazing. So when they had like Christian Chenna
with and Adina Menzel, even Jonathan Groff, I was like,
I don't know who any of these people are. People
be o, did you see who's on Gleamo?
Speaker 6 (41:42):
I don't know who that is. I was, but I
knew I.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Was the same. I didn't know anything.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
We had to school. Kevin Y.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I was like, this Christian woman is really nice and.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
A living Really someone should sign her.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Weren't you from?
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Like I love I love, love love Broadway, so like
I feel like I'm constantly taking my boyfriend and my
sister to go see Broadway shows just because I want
them to be educated again American history. And I feel
even with the with the like the representation of Broadway
(42:24):
on the show, I was like, certified, certified if I could,
if I, if I could sing, girl, I'd be dominating
the world.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
Like the universe.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Knew whoever the higher power is, they knew to not
get me the gift of singing because I'd be too powerful.
I'd be way too powerful.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
So I'm jealous.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
I wish we could sing, Like y'all know.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
What a gift to bring your sister to Wicked.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
You know, I'm telling you, I'm telling And we were late.
I'm late everywhere, but we were late, so we did
have to stand and watch the first number in the
foyer and then they took us to our seats.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
But it was one out of ten.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
You still got to find gravity. You're fine, Yeah, that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
I got all all the good stuff, even when we
I remember at the intermission there was a woman sitting
next to Dayson and then she was like, excuse me,
and then Dayson was like, oh yeah, she she thought
she had to get up or something, and she goes, no,
do you know what this show is like about? And
then my sister, what intermission? Girl, we watched the first half.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
What do you mean you don't know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I know as much as you literally were on the
same show.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
I'm just waiting for to find gravity.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
I have all the information that you have, girl, Like
I've been sitting here.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
The same time.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Did you love it? Dayson?
Speaker 6 (43:43):
I loved it?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
It was so good?
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Ye, amazing.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Well, we are so grateful you guys came on. Thank
you so much for chatting Glee with us, and congratulations
on your success, your podcast, your individual success, for lifting
up all of the communities, for going on tour.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Congratulations you guys see them on We're gonna have to go.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Yeah, yes, oh my gosh, please do I would love
to have We would both love to have you. Thank
you guys so much for having us.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
This is the same no, thanks for making the time.
Go listen and subscribe comment section and too, idiot Girls
that you guys are the best, so good.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Thank you so Much'll you guys can give me the
tea you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Can give us. Oh yes, we'll stop recording and tell
you what.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Thank you guys so.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Much for Thank you guys, Thanks guys.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Oh my goodness, how fun was that?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I'm sweating? They're so cool? What chemistry they have to
just want to hang out with them?
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Well their probably feels like you're hanging out with them too.
That's kind of like their thing, which I love. They
Thank you to Drew and Jason for coming on taking
the time to chat with us talking about their Glee fandom,
and also go check out their tour and their podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
To Idiot Girls, Jenna A, we're going to the tour.
We gotta get tickets and we're going. Okay, let's go. Okay,
I want to see them easy, all right. Thank you
to Drew and Jason again for joining us. Thank you
all for listening. And That's what you really miss Bye.
Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and
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