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November 27, 2023 52 mins

It's the third annual mashup episode, and while the songs may be harmonious, the relationships are not!

There's a lot of conflict in this one! New Directions vs. The Troubletones, Sue vs. Burt, Santana vs Finn, and the slap heard around the world . . . and it wasn't even in the script! Hear behind-the-scenes scoop on the scene that still makes them gasp.

Plus, "Mash Off" featured the show's 300th song and a return to the music charts with what Kevin and Jenna think is one of Glee's top three songs of all time! Will you agree? Click to find out!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what You Really Missed podcast. And
this is a quite the episode, quite the episode.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is a memorable episode, an iconic episode.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
For many reasons.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
A couple reasons. And it is the third annual mashup
episode because this is the third season in a row
where the sixth episode of the season is centered around mashups.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
No, we kind of talk about the mashups. I don't
know if that's weird or if it's just what it is.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I guess it is.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
They're like, it's time for a mashup episode, and they're like, hmm,
that's funny. It was the sixth episode last year, right, Like, let's.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Just do it again. If it ain't broke.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
However, I will say, after talking to Adam Anders, if
you haven't listened to it, go back and listen to it,
because he talks about the mashups, having had to create
all of them, and yes, some of these. I think
you run the gamut in this episode. I think we
have some of the worst mashups and then I think
we have the best mashup. Agreed in this episode, so

(01:22):
you agree we are complex.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Okay, this is mash mash Off and this is season three,
episode six in the air. Day is November fifteenth, two
thousand and eleven, and We Found Love is still number one.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I mean the best song of tens.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
True and the number one movie was Immortals.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Glee News of the Week. On November eighteenth, actor Peter
Mayhew visited the set to film a cameo for the
episode we're filming at the time, which is the ninth
episode Extraordinary Merry Christmas as his Star Wars character Chewbacca,
like the the Chewye, the real Chewy and the real costume.

(02:14):
And it was a bit, as Joe Biden once said,
a big thing deal, honestly special. I got to see
in so many scenes with it. I felt like me
and Chewy.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
You did just you want a lot to do in
that episode that's coming.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I couldn't believe it. It was there's a picture of us
and I don't know if you've seen it online, and
Matt Morrison was directing the episode and he and I
are sandwiching Chewbacca on the stage on our winter set,
and it was the crew was taking photos all day, like.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I have so many photos in my camera roll from
that day.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Same it was one of the most surreal things, and
also it was really epic. By that point, we had
guest stars, we had Britney Spears, we had people wanting
to come on the show, so we had sort of
adjusted that, like, Okay, we're meeting a lot of legendary people.
Having Chewbacca was not on that bucket list. Did not

(03:14):
think that was an option.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
He's also really tall, very tall, like six over six feet, like, yeah,
on the high end of the six.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I just remember being very present that day and being
very yes, this is crazy, texting everyone I knew, mm hmm.
Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
It was awesome. I have a lot of pictures of
you with Chewie actually and with them, so it's very good. Okay,
we're going to get to that episode, but right now
we're in mash I can't.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Wait for that episode yet.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, Okay, there's a lot. There's a lot of tea
to spell that day.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
There is something in that episode that I have never
said publicly, and I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh my god, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Do you know what it is?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I don't, okay, I don't, okay, I can't wait. Okay.
This episode is directed by the One and the lyric
Stults and I have, and it's written by Michael Hitchcock,
our friend hitch I've got some good memories from this,

(04:22):
specific memories from specifically the musical numbers, because we're not
in a lot of the scenes. We were watching it
last night and David was like, oh my god, you're
in this episode. How does that feel. I was like,
you're funny, You're really funny. And we've got a Shelby
Corkord and still here. We've got a Dina who's gonna
play a big part in this episode. What songs do

(04:44):
we do in this episode?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
We do hot for Teacher, You and I and you
and I, mash up, hit me with your best shot
one way or another, mashup, I can't go for that.
You make my dreams mash up? And rumor has It?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Someone like you Masha, which fun fact is the three
hundredth performance was rumor has It? So when they were
shooting it, the day they were shooting it, we all
went on to the stage, all the execs came, the
creators came, We got they got a plaque that said
three hundred on it. With all the songs named titled

(05:22):
in the background, and we had a little celebration and
a little press press moment. We had some photos online.
It was also the first song from the season to
reach number one on iTunes, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, we were a little rusty. I think the glow
and the newness of the show had fully worn off
by this point, and so the songs were starting to
struggle a little bit.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I mean, like they were still in the top ten,
but we weren't getting number ones like we were every
single week before.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Right, And do you.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Remember what Adam said about the mashup too, about how
Adell didn't approve it.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Right and then he did it anyway, right.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, And then we recently just told Amber that because
she didn't know, oh she didn't know. No, she didn't know.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well funny, other other fun fact, Amber said that on
Twitter that someone emailed her a video of Adele saying
that she wanted her to sing the song, and so
she emailed it to brad Ryan. Yes, and that is true.
That's that is a true statement.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
It is because they became like email friends. They started
emailing each other, yes, yes, which.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Was She's like and I was like you get out
of here.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, we were in London. She's like, do you guys
want to go have dinner with the dough?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Like yeah, please, we didn't have dinner at the door
canceled about us yeah, which was awesome. Gat okay uh.
Other than rumor has it, which we will get to.

(07:02):
It actually was also the only song from season three
h heart in the UK at all? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I mean it must be Also, just respect that mashup.
I mean also, you have two of the biggest songs
by the biggest artists in the world of the time, right,
and it's a great mashup. And it's also used the performance.
The song by itself is great. The performance is great.
And then also I think it's the power of what
Glee did best was using the song at the right
moment to further the storyline totally, which I think we

(07:34):
tended to get away from these things.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
This was synergistic. There was a lot of synergy around
this number. You felt a lot. I felt a lot
in this number.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
And I have to say the the few moments I
guess this episode to me is this number, right, Like
this was the vehicle to get this number seen and
heard totally, and Stoltz directed it in a way where
it wasn't just a musical number. There were those pauses,

(08:06):
the coverage of Nya's acting and that number are unreal
so good little looks and subtle and there's something about
the way Heather. There's this moving shot where Heather is
moving to the left of frame and Nya is moving
to the right of frame and Heather's fully dancing and

(08:26):
like looks up and makes eye contact with Nya, And
I was just like, way to go, Heather, Like this
is very much about what Santana's going through. But then
that look, because it's also how they were in real life,
Like that was true like relationship support, I'm here for you,

(08:48):
how are you doing? Checking in just with a glance,
And I thought it was really powerful.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
It was very powerful. We're talking about the song, yeah,
just talking about then, all right.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, because we're just gonna have to do it. I
guess sorry, I can't stop thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I mean it's okay. I watched it like three times and.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I've mentioned it before. How like Amber called me crying
after she recorded it because because she knew Adele wanted
her to do it, she wanted to do it justice
and then she wasn't singing with someone like.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
You right right right, and.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
She vocally really wanted to do that, That's what she
thought she was going to be doing. And so she
was upset and she called me and I remember like
where I was driving at the time, and I was like, Amber,
there was no way you didn't nail this. There's no
way you are not going to sound incredible on it.
And she I think it was just she puts so

(09:48):
much pressure on herself.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Well, of course, I mean, if you want your friend,
who is Adele saying, I want you to sing this song?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I think it's also just impressive to me. It's surprising
to me because I look at Amber and I'm like,
she can sing anything, and it all seems so easy
for her, and of course she's gonna sound great doing
whatever she does, and so and I think that can observationally,
like from the outside, look like, oh, someone could get

(10:17):
complacent doing that because everything is so easy for them.
Totally where Amber carrying that much three hundred numbers into
the show. Yeah, really was never placent, No, never, never, never.
It meant a lot to me as like a friend
and a coworker like I was like, oh, that's very
inspirational and aspirational to you know, keep yourself in check

(10:40):
like that, Like we're working here and we need to
do you know, this justice to whatever we're doing.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, no, I appreciate it. I mean they everybody obviously
pour their heart and soul into this number. Directing. Yeah,
I even like the girls. That is not a That
was a long number.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
M hmm.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
It was intricate. There are different parts and they all
like and some of them like we had never worked
with before because the trouble tones were all new.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
And it's also I think a real feet of I
think this is on Stultz's part to not lose in
a number that long, that is so good, like you
just want to listen to it because it's it's delicious yep.
That you don't lose the story the entirety of that performance,
but it's also not so too storied out that you're

(11:31):
losing the entertainment of the performance. It is. Everything is
working and everything.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Lighting was really good. Oh my god, it's all really good.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
All in black. It felt like they were mourning. It's
like she's now mourning sort of her.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Like pre life, yes exactly, is like adolescence. Oh my god,
it's really good. And then and then I mean the
slap too, like which fun fat that was not planned? Well,

(12:06):
it was planned because Eric's still it wasn't written. And
then Eric still whispered to Naya that she should slap
Corey and she was like scared and like nervous about it,
but she did it, and I'm glad she did. And
there's a really good BTS video yes about the slap
where Corey and her were talking about it, and I

(12:27):
was like, I was so scared that Corey was gonna
be mad. She's like, Eric made me do it. But
Eric would always do that. He would always like whisper
little secrets because he was an actor's director, so he
would just get things out of us that other people
like not couldn't, but he just he got more out
of us, and we respected him, so we did it.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
And I feel like, if you're going to do it
to anybody, Corey he the perfect person to be on
the receiving end of it because he was also like
so serious about the acting that he would fully be
into it.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
And I speak nervous though I would be scared to
slap Corey without him knowing absolutely, because he is so
serious about the acting of it. There's a part of
me that would be like, why didn't you tell me,
Like you know, there there's a but there's a trust factory.
I guess that that plays into it. So there's Eric,
we're in a safe space. It's Eric, it's Naya like

(13:18):
everybody cares, but like, I don't know, I would have
been I would have been scared anyway. The BTS video
is great and and the slap really worked. And then
Corey on his coverage so do it again? Yeah, and
it it was I mean, I like gassed when I
watched it again.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Because it's also not like it's not too soapy, it's
like just enough where it also feels real.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
But iw's the stakes too, right, It really raised the
stakes for them. This whole storyline is crazy. I am crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I always wondered how this storyline of Santana verbally assaulting
Finn for the entirety of this episode, like if Corey
took any of that on personally.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well, I mean we could have all taken stuff on
personally though.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well that's what and I know some people did, and
so I don't know the answer to this, but I
because it was harsh. It was really harsh, and it
was a lot obviously proving a point like for the story,
but damn.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
But I will also say, like, stay tuned for seasons
to follow, because like a lot of people get some
really bad digs coming up, because now we're getting comfortable,
now we really know who we are, and we're kind
of shifting, and like the actors are shifting. Everybody's shifting,
so some of them are pretty bad to come.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And I also think, I mean, to be honest, like
some of us starting in season two, when the episodes
did sort of address us personally, sometimes we weren't sure
if this was like the yeah, yeah, yeah, trying to
point things out to us or not.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
M totally totally. I mean I think but if you asked,
they would have been like no, you know what I mean,
they would have lied anyway.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, So like we didn't ask, and then I think
in the back of our heads it's like, well, it's this,
Should I take this to heart? Do I need to
fix this thing or change this thing?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Right? No, totally, that's fair, that's fair. The comments were
also like Santana's, particularly to Finn in this episode, We're
very harsh. But we were just talking to our producer
Sam about this because I feel like in order to
justify what Finn does at the end of the episode

(15:50):
by outing her, which is not a small thing, Like
Santana is now a beloved character. Fans are really you know,
attaching themselves to her, and she's really resonating with Finn
is also really obviously beloved from the beginning. For Finn
to do something so villainizing, something so bad like this, yeah,

(16:13):
that could really be detrimental to Santana's future and the
way people look at Finn. It had to be that harsh, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Because it would take so much for him to do that,
because like all these characters are growing, right, and he
called Kurt the F word, right, Yeah, Yeah, he's sort
of I feel like our window into like the everyman
learning about these different types of people other than yourself totally,

(16:50):
and it's a two steps forward, one step back type
of situation, right, But I do think you're right, like
he had to be in a place there's nothing else
to do. Obviously that should never be the response, but like.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So deeply hurt, right, so deeply hurt the other person
like that, Yeah, it also kind of made me think
about being outed like that, not in the same way,
but like Chris as a person being outed with his
character so early on in the height of the like

(17:28):
throes of the rush of Glee. Yeah, anyway, it's just
the thought should we get into, like the.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Episode, the rest of what this episode is? I mean,
I think, yeah, I think the reason like we start
off with all that is because that was like the
most memorable and the juiciest part and sort of like,
for lack of a better word, like the legacy of
that episode.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well, I mean, and it's such a cliffhanger. The way
that way to end that episode was just very powerful.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Naya really gave one of the craziest performances I think
in a single episode that anybody does the charity of
the series because you go from obviously it's all from
a place of like fear and anger and anxiety. But
she's funny, she's mean, she's emotional, she's broken. She does

(18:24):
all of that within like forty two minutes, and there's
a lot of other stuff happening in this episode. Yeah,
so every scene she's in she's doing heavy heavy lifting.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Totally totally and it doesn't like when you want to
look at it from your standpoint. She makes it look
very easy, kind of like Gamber makes her vocals.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
But she did that in real life too. Yeah, that's true,
Like thinking about it, she never talked about it. She
never like if you and I had like a big
scene coming up or something like, I could visibly see
that you were anxious, but you could see that I
was anxious and like worried about it. We were working
on it. Yeah, she just showed up and did it.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I know, And then you'd watch the episode and be like,
oh damn, where where.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Was I used to ask her for acting tips. Oh yeah,
because sometimes it would be in scenes and I would
just be staring at her eyes and being like, what
is like, I'm in the scene mm hm, I was
like she which is probably not great because I should
be in the scene as well. But I'm watching her

(19:30):
and I can tell she is fully Santana. She's having
the Santana thoughts. She is seeing all the Santana images
as she's talking whatever it is, as small or big.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
And I remember bringing that up a couple of times,
like when because think about what she would she could
convey with a look, total and that to me is
always the biggest mystery of like when you watch a
movie or TV show and there's stillness and silence and
it's just an actor by themselves and they're not speaking
and there able to convey, and yeah, I sort of

(20:06):
just to grill her about that. I'm like, what are
you thinking of? Because you are so good at it.
She's like, I'm just thinking what Shanna would be thinking, Like,
it's right, right, right, of course you are, of course
you are. I'm doing yeah, totally, yeah, yeah, I'm definitely
not overthinking it. But it was like watching her and

(20:27):
Chris work was similar because yes, they would be having
a conversation like this rolling, they would flip flip.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's just wild to me in it wild. I cannot
do that. Sectionals is coming up. Oh my god, I
can't believe it. That's crazy. Will and Shelby have the
trouble Tones This is now a Troublestone podcast and the

(20:59):
new directions take part in a mash off competition unbknownst
to them until they show up and everybody's singing, and
Puck has a crash on Shelby and just trying to
figure out to do with it while Quinn is also
trying to win Beth back, but it kind of gets
pushed to the back burner. In this episode, Bert and

(21:20):
Sue's campaign heats up, gets real dirty, and the election
for Senior Class president also comes to a head. Well, yeah,
there's a lot that happens.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I would like to start off with the Shelby and
Puck and quick get out of the way.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Well again, are we done with this yet? I love
a Dina too. I know of fans, I'm but this
is I'm done. I'd rather see Adena do trouble tones.
Now let's move on.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, I mean I do think everyone is doing a
great They get no fault of anyone. Everyone's doing a
very good job. No, I just I don't doesn't sit me.
Are we the only ones who don't like this?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Oh? No, tell us, please tell us people, because I'm
over it. It just really like just feels the drawn
out because it's season one related, so and.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
It also feels totally just like off with the rest
of the show.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I feel like, agreed, agreed, I don't know. It also
feels very vindictive of Quinn, and it just doesn't feel
like I don't know she's I know she is like
a little bit of the villain, but like we love
Quinn now, so it's just confusing to me.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
It's also like the stakes, like what Quinn is doing
is so bad, Like the rest of it is all
like high school. We're even the political campaign where they're
messing with each other, right, it's high school. This is
some real shit.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, I mean that's why I just don't like it. It
doesn't feel good.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
No, no, no, I don't know good. And everything else
is like even when people mess up, there's always sort
of a safety net. You have the people around you
to sort of like the characters have the safety net
of their friends or famis or teachers to sort of
get them back on track or in the right direction.
And this is so many episodes of like bad behavior,

(23:10):
like Quinn planting the stuff and now Shelby and Puck.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Says he's eighteen, which is not right? Was he left back?
Is that why you're justifying though?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean probably okay, whatever.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
So Shelby's gonna find out about Quinn and she's not
gonna let her see Beth anymore. Rightfully, so justified, But
Quinn wants to be on the trouble tones, don't we all.
On the other side of it, Puck is having made

(23:43):
out with Shelby now wants to be a dad to
Beth with Shelby is having a teacher crush. Which teacher
crush is okay, harmless, innocent teacher crushes okay, Susie Pepper's
teacher crushes even okay, but this is not okay. And

(24:05):
then he sings the first song of the episode. Hot
for Teacher is a very strange number. I it was
wild and crazy, and I remember when they were shooting it,
everybody was like at one hundred and eighty, Like the
energy was just like Harry, you just meet Harry he

(24:28):
is It's kooky. It is goooky energy, and it was
weird like in I think maybe the whole storyline was inappropriate,
so they just went with that in the number, like
making the number inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
To you know, this is the first number that I
have zero memory of, oh of watching, and it sort
of makes me think maybe I've never seen this episode before.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Oh, like I.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Remember, but you were, yes, I was there, I remember
what so I remember the choir room got them doing
this number. Watching the opening of it, I felt like
I was having a medical problem totally. I don't remember
this at all totally because this episode to me is

(25:20):
rumor has it and I can't go for that. But
that's what I remember.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
You just kind of skip over it, maybe, yeah, the
first number of the episode. You were tagging this to
a very specific number this episode, so maybe you just
kind of there's times I watched a movie over and
over again. I'm like, is this in scene? You know?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, so maybe that makes sense. I feel like, also
that may start happening a lot as we go on
in this series, or maybe I just don't remember.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
It, and Puck is just I don't know, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's just weird, Like I think his stuff with her
at the school when he's like that's like funny and
seemingly innocent.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Right the lockers and everything.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm really enjoying a Dina though, Oh yes,
very much.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
So. Yes, And I'm appreciating this cute little Rachel and
Shelby relationship. Yeah, given that you know, it was like
her mom's coming to down out of nowhere, we now
have like them actually kind of having this little relationship.
And Rachel asked Shelby to write her letter of recommendation

(26:35):
for Aniada so I thought that was very sweet.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Scene when we have met Morrison and I want to
ask him about about the having another teacher in there
is obviously then sort of taking away some time for
him as a teacher, but also adding in a new
dynamic of having another teacher to sort of compete or
be friends with.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
So just like you know, we had now Trouble Tones
to is you know the same thing for us, right,
I'd like to know his take on it, because more people,
you're splitting up more story and there's less screen time
for everybody.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Feeling Matt would be like, man, it's.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Fine, Yeah, I don't think I don't think you'd care.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay, So they do a number. They come together and
decide that they're going to do a mash out, that
New Directions and Trouble Toones are going to do a
mash off. And they come in and they sing on
the stage. It was a little jarring the entrance to me,
I didn't quite fit. But this mash up. What do
you think of this mashup?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I don't know if I can separate the song from
the performance. I think I had mixed felings about this
episode because I think this the back half of it
is so strong totally where these first two musical numbers
are so odd to me m M that I was like,
what like disjointed? Yeah, I didn't know what was happening,

(28:03):
and so I didn't. I love both of these songs
totally that are used in this number. You and I
is probably my favorite ARGA song.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Love You and I, But I was like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
I just not paparazzi, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I also felt like when we were shooting it, I
remember shooting this and feeling like, why are we here?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yes, we were all.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I remember all trying to attach it to the storyline
of what was going on, Not that we had a
ton of storyline in this episode, but like I was like,
what is happening?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yes, around being like all right, this is the same weird.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
And we're on the floor. But Eric makes it work, right,
We all have to make it work. That's the kind
of your jobs. You're like, You're like, okay, here we are.
This may not make sense to us, but we're doing it.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
If anyone can make it work, Eric.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Can make it work, and Adena that can SELLID so,
But then but then we do another mashup. Hit me
with your best shot and in one way or another.
So we decided we're gonna play dodge ball.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Great mashup, great mashup. Yes, it's great.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Love this mashup.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Those songs are like meant to be together.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's as if they were one do okay dodgeball.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, dodgeball was hard in a wheelchair.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
You guys, well, you did a good job. You don't
see me in this number. You don't see Leah in
this number. We were hiding because we were scared of
the balls. Yep, I can't have balls playing at my face. Okay,
so you don't see me. I was literally hiding. Heather
was living.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
That number, that little like move she did the dance herse.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I loved it doing it.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Like the campiest number turns into like a violent thing
so quickly. It's like what I mean, there are people
soaring through the air.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I know. And then it was weird because there was
no choreography, but like he had to get specific shots,
so like it was kind of like done in pieces.
So we had a lot of time during that number.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
It was really fun though. We all had a great time.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I loved doing that number. We were in dodgeball fits.
It was Comfy. It was different. We were somewhere else,
we were in the gym.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I got like a welt on my face. Did you
see like the bts like I got because I had
glasses on and then the goggles over the glasses and
they got hit on the goggles. So then that like hurt.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, this episode, or specifically this number, the Dodgeball number,
Kelly and Naya and Diana were aging people, like pretty
little liars. Really, yes, And we had been going back

(31:02):
and forth, I think maybe from the episode, the previous episode,
and it was kind of like tagger it. So people
would say other people who got aided. And I come
into my trailer on a break from shooting the Dodgeball
and there is a big a on my trailer mirror. Yeah,

(31:24):
he did in siracha And I was so thrilled to
be aid with siracha. It looks like blood too, that's
the funny part. I have a photo of it somewhere.
I'll post it. Did you taste it? Of course I
licked it off. No, I'm kidding, but I was thrilled.

(31:46):
I think I kept it up there and it crusted
for a while because it's just so so clever, very
very clever. But yeah, we had a lot of downtime.
That was a fun number to shoot. I just I
hid in the back.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
An easy day, Yeah, one of those days like this
is our job.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
We'd like Heather's got it right, yeah, like she's having
a blast, let her go for it. She was. It
was like Mattress when they like fly across the screen
onto like Matts. I remember watching that and being like,
who are these these dancers the Troubletoes that are doing
like aerials?

Speaker 2 (32:27):
I do think my I feel like this number is
why I have mixed feelings. It's like the perfect example
of why I have mixed feelings about this episode. I
think because you I feel like, tonally it is sort
of all over the place, and you have this number

(32:47):
that is so fun and campy, right, and then on
the drop of a hat, like somebody's bleeding. Yeah what well?

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
That also didn't feel like earned, Like it didn't feel
like why would this person be that injured?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Totally?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
And I know that they show Heather's this show like
begs you to like suspend your disbelief. I understand, but
it just felt because then you have moments like the
slop at the end, well that feels real and all
that feels like so warranted. Yeah, some of the other
stuff in the beginning of the episode is harder for

(33:27):
me to like get my head.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Around and grasp. Yeah, I get that. I get that.
But on that note too, like even the race for
senior class has been so it has been kind of
like heating up for quite a few quite a few
episodes now, Yeah, and like Brittany and with the stick.
But then you know, Kurt gives this wonderful speech as always,

(33:50):
Chris Colfer coming through about bullying and let's and dodgeball
at the band, dodgeball at the school, and then Rachel
getting up after being kind of conniving in a way
by you know, running for president against Kurt and then
just like turning it all around. It was very sweet.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
It was sweet. I liked it.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I think it's sweet love story.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
And I thought just I thought it was a really
nice move, like it was time for Rachel to do
something a little like giving because like, you know, she's
she's a taker. Okay, they're taker vision takers. Rachel's a taker,
but she she gave back and it was really nice.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I also just watching them together is always really fun. Yeah, totally,
and I like when they like each other.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Okay, so the mass shops that New Directions and trouble Tons.
We've talked about the trouble Tones. We know this is
this number of series. Let's be real.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
On the flip side here is.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I can't go for that, and you make my dreams
by hall notes like I love Hallo notes. I thought
this mashup was fine. I don't know that I could
have distinguished the two songs for each other to bed like,
this could have not been a mash up and it
could have been one song.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
To me, I feel the same way about this as
I did about Hit Me with Your Best Shop. They
so well together that in my memory they wore one
song both of them. They weren't mash up me too,
And watching was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Right, it's a mashup episode. Cool. Yeah, agreed, Okay.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
It was so much fun to do this.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
The most fun. Do you remember. I was so hungover
doing this number that Darren introduced me to pepsid in
water or like alka seltzer in water for this He's
like just drinking alc seltzer and water, So I was
like downing al Seltzer doing this number, which I had

(36:08):
so much fun doing, but I was wildly hungover.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Well this is party girl time.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yes, it was just getting gray. She wasn't doing much
on screen, so you know, let's just get out there.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah. We didn't have much responsibility at.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Work, so I was like, well, I can go out.
But then of course we had this number, which was
really really fun. The looks were really funny, the mustache, Yeah, brigade.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
I love you and Damien singing together.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
It was cute. It was cute. Yeah, love love Damien.
We'll do anything for Damien. But he was so such
as maybe it was intentional. It was such a stark
difference from the rumor has it that I was like,
I wish we could have done something like that.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I was like, again, damn it class with a bad taste.
These like old old songs. Anyway, they're not that old,
let's be wrong.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I have to note also, though, that Corey doing Hot
for Teacher, playing the drums looking so happy. David was like,
he looks like he is in his element. I was like,
that's because he is like behind the drum set a
drum kit, drum kit, drum set yep, just literally banging
away and singing some backup vocals his dream, his dream,

(37:36):
and also.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Like that song like getting to do like rock.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yes, yeah, exactly. The looks and the performance of You
Make My Dreams Come True was really fun. So I'll
give it, you know, a B minus. But you know
that's generous in comparison to the trouble to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I think it's just hard when you after you see
that number, like, oh right, that's what we're up against. Yes,
you got it?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Oh my gosh. And also this is hello notes was
this was the first time Quinn sings in the season.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I mean, I don't know if I've sung yet.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Oh you have, Kevin, Yes, remember I don't know if
I did. Yes, Kevin, you've definitely sung.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I don't think I sing until like halfway through the season. No,
I think so, M I think you're wrong as hosts
of the show, is it something we should.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Probably remember just by having done these episodes last the
last few weeks. The other thing that's happening is Sue
is running still running for Congress, and so is Bert.
But Bert is not going to blow the belt, and

(39:00):
Sue is spreading lies about Bert having a baboon heart.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I mean, I like these things. I thought it was
also like fun and silly and insane. Agreed, and also
I think fits more at the like with the state
of politics in twenty twenty three than it did even then.
You know, like now you can really just say anything,
anything and it's.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Fine, unregulated, uncensored, un yeah, not fact jacked. Let's just
spew whatever work we're thinking or feeling.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, and like some people, well buy it, like great,
good for you.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
You're right. But this leads us to the whole campaign
thing about you know, this gets to the grit of
beIN releasing the truth about Santana. I don't remember what

(40:01):
happens after this, though, to be honest, I don't either.
I slightly remember Santana. Is this not Bush City City limits?
Is this coming up where she goes away?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Look, I know that I was there with you at work,
but you're asking the wrong person.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I think that not Bush to do limits is coming up.
That's why I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
So I'm excited because I'm going in blind with no memory.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Okay, good stuff, but when I see it, I remember, No,
of course, I think there's something to that. Number one.
We really bad memories. Let's just call it what it
is as babest bad. But number two, there were so
many freakin things that we did and and I think
because our storylines were few and far between, like there

(40:49):
are yeah, you have, like I have distinct like mile
markers in my total.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
If we're not like super involved and you're just the
days are sort of the same, and like the short
term memory gets full, and it's like, well, if every
day is sort of looking the same, then I don't
retain all of these fifteen hour.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Days, seven hundred musical numbers, no sixties.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Not only that you're filming five days a week fifteen
four I mean twelve to fifteen hours a day, yeah, yeah,
And then you're learning the numbers, you're recording the songs.
At the same time, you're getting scripts for the episodes
that are coming up, and then they're editing those things
that you shot into an episode. So that's also like
a different thing to remember. So at some point you're

(41:36):
just sort of like, I don't know what's what anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah. Yeah. I also felt like the scripts like short
term memory, like like a quiz just goes study for it,
yea memorize it and then forget it.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Okay, So I did. I sang a little bit. I
sang a harmony and last Friday night on the Pace.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Fine, fine, you're right, Kevin, you're right, and not the
City Limits is season So I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
We're both wrong.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
You know what it was? There was a valiant effort
made on my part?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Was that valiant? Here a season off?

Speaker 1 (42:11):
You know what I tried. I racked my brain and
I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
But you know we all want more. Yeah that's the truth.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Okay, Well I think that's I mean, that is the episode.
What would you rate this episode, Kevin? Since it was
all like you have like a like a fifty to
fifty split of this episode.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
It's hard things. I don't know. I think maybe overall
I rank it like I don't know, maybe like a
six and a half or seven.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Okay, I was gonna give it like a B a
B bummer around.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Obviously, some of this is so good and some of.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
It am Yeah, but none of us. I hated all that.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
No, I do not hate any of It's good.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
That's a good thing. It's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
We'll take it.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Should we do some tarty takes.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Let's do some party takes.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Okay, cringe moments.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Well, those insults by Santana were pretty rough.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, and the puck things all wrong and the thing
is all wrong. Yeah, okay. Best dance move, I gotta
say Heather in.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
All the trouble tones and well rumor has it as well.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, I mean those shoulders.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Well, okay, yes, I can say the specific number for talking.
Best dance move is that shoulder. I'm doing it, but
it doesn't you know what? You know the one I'm
talking about?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yes, I do. We all know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, yeah, the shoulder move.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Best song obviously someone like you. I think I think
if we put that up as a if there was
a poll to vote the best mashup, even maybe the
best song like we ever did, I think be the one.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Top top three, top three for sure performance by a prop.
I think your guys's mustaches.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I wasn gonna say the dodgeballs.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
That's good too.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, they both work. I also shout out to the
VHS tape they put in to show the ad for yeah,
very political.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Campaign, the best mind. I mean, I really love this
Sue montage of the Bert Hummel campaign, where she says
last year he had a heart attack, and he might
have had a heart transplant, and he might have gotten
it from a baboon. Ca Boons are dangerous killers who
throw their own feces when they're not tearing off people's

(44:51):
faces or admiring their own weird butts.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
That was pretty good, but there were a lot of
good ones. My god, I Stannah when she says, I'm
from my heights. I was raised on insults. It's how
my abuela put me to sleep at night. And she
is not a nice lady. You know, she tried to
sell me once. It wasn't till like on the kindergarten

(45:14):
that I learned my name wasn't garbage space. Also, Mercedes
says adele and sure, he goes, I sound just like her,
and then Brittany goes, dude, I love her. She sounds
like what banana cream pie sounds like when it sings,
which I get actually good. Yeah, yeah, I understand that.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
That is your Yeah, that's your line right there, that's
made for you.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
My favorite one, though, might be Rory's. He says, you're
skinning like all the crops that failed on your.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Family's He gets some good one liners. I will say Yeah,
very good. We have performance MVP. I think I'm going
with Naya.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Yeah, there's there's no no, no other choice. Naya is
the MVP of this episode. Really should have been nominated
for Everything under the Sun. Should have won for Everything
under the Sun.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Mm hmm agree, because.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
She was doing it using every tool in that toolbox.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I mean it's not even all for tools. It's like
half no tools exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Some people just got it, and like, how lucky were
we to just get to watch it?

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Literally we got to be in the presence of it. Yes,
not even just view it a gift. Okay, give me
some TikTok.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Should we found on TikTok this week? The Try Guys,
there's a whole segment one of their podcasts talking about
Run Joey, Run your family Member, and one of them
describing how Rachel set the guys up, like didn't tell

(46:49):
them that all three of them were going to be
in it, sort of you know, like create on their
better senses to get them in the video, and then
they only found out when they all watched it together
in the same room and just how like unhinged that
number is and how conniving Rachel was to get it
all done. It's brilliant, And you know they're also mentioning

(47:12):
how the show was a way to a vehicle to
introduce people to songs that they'd never heard before.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
We also have to know the comments because TikTok comments.
I'm not on TikTok. Let's be real, I don't go
on TikTok, but the comments are always so insane, like
run Joey Run is the best performance Singly history. You're crazy, Claudia.
Glee is so un serious. I love it. I think

(47:43):
you sitting run Joy Run Glee version was literally the
best song I had ever heard. Like, is this.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Are people okay? Real? I love? Somebody said, honestly, my
Roman Empire, this song was elite.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Somebody said, Okay, I'll rewatch Glee.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I do think Maya said I love explaining Glee to
non Gleeks. And I think this clip from the Try
Guys is that this is exactly what it feels like.
I'm sure trying to explain the show to people.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
This song low key eight. I am just still so
forward by this thing. I will never never understand it.
But here we are.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
But I again, I think this is much more about
the story than the song, Jenna, it is like a
peak unhinged Rachel, like her delusion, her manipulation to get
what she wants. And then she's so serious about this
bad song, and your music video is like so intricate

(48:48):
and like well done.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I just feel like, you know, we were talking about the
synergy in a number. Yeah, I'm searching, I'm on the
I'm on the mac bubble.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
That's where I think this synergistically. That's why it works
because it all fit within the story for several reasons.
It's less about the song. It's not about that song.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
But people say it eight though, and I'm confused because there's.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
No way to unrelate it to the video or the story.
All Right, Okay, I think for we can't be objective
about this, like disagree. Damn it, Jenna, she is shutting
this debate down.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
We can make this a whole episode if we want.
Can we get see what you're saying, See what you're saying.
I am understanding more how this can encompass glease satire.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I'm not saying I agree with people. I'm just saying
I understand it. Okay, Okay, I never have. Some of
us are smarter than others. And you people.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I was referring to you being smarter.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
But no, no, no, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
No better. Okay, that is every time I try to
say this episode, I'm like mash off mash up mash
with with mash off and we are episode six of three.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I feel like we need to slow down. I don't know.
This is flying by.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Well, sectionals is coming. We have I kissed the girl
next week.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Wow, girls just want to have fun.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Jenna, I have no memory.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Oh get ready, see I remember that because I sang
on it.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I have no memory of this episode at all.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I think this is gonna be a good one.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Okay, cool, Well, tune in to see if general remembers anything.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
And anything, if we can remember anything.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
I think people are sick of that.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
But yeah I don't. Yeah. That's not in a way
to like drag the show by the way, No, because
we love it. Just trying to join this. Yes, also,
this is I love that every week now feels like
I'm watching a new show, truly, because it's also a
way for I feel better at being able to analyze

(51:33):
what's happening, because I feel like I can be way more.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Affractive about it. Oh, okay, this is like his the
girl Na Teena's version, the group girl version with all
of us in the choir room and Sugar Mata. I'll
always remember ving us Lenji's being there. Okay, this is fun,
all right, yeah, okay, Well, joined us next week and
thanks for joining us, and.

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