August 21, 2023 • 41 mins
Sunshine is back, but the Holliday is over!
Sadly, we say goodbye to Holly Holliday and Gwyneth Paltrow (for now), but not before Kevin learns a valuable acting lesson from the Oscar winner!
Sunshine Corazon (Jake Zyrus) and Dustin Goolsby (Cheyenne Jackson) are both back, Jenna opens up about how Tina’s on-screen taunts stung her in real life … plus, what song made Kevin cry?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, and I would just like to
draw the listener's attention to that. Jenna paused before she
said that and said, how do I want to start this?
And then that, and that's what came out.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I was thinking like nineties radio VJ, but like, couldn't
couldn't quite get there.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Okay, I respect, I respect your decision, your choice, seeing
as we like can't act right now. You know that
was an attempt. It's something different.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You know, she's making choices people, and I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I would just like to say as a disclaimer and
like a retroactive and also future apology. I was talking
to some friends today and talking about how I think
you're really great at interviewing people, Like when we of
our episodes interviewing guests, whether it's co stars or musical artists, whoever.
Uh huh, you're so good. And I say, I always
(01:10):
say that I have at least one moment in every
single interview. Well, I maybe won't even ask a question,
but I go on and on and on like right
now with like a statement just about the person, and
I can see it in your eyes where you don't care,
but you're like, all right, there we go, it's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's where you make your choices.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, and they're not good. They're not good choices. And
I would just like to publicly state that I will
try to do better. Kevin, I need the public to
hold me accountable.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I think you're a very good interviewer, so you know,
we're learning, We are learning, we are learning. I think
you're so smart that sometimes you feel like you have
to profess the question where you don't. But sometimes they
are very profound things that you say.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So that's a.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Compelling you know.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, someone was like, didn't you host a talk show
in the UK? Say, well, I had somebody in my
ear telling me what to say. I'm a puppet. I
can if you give me the joke, I can deliver it.
You know, don't make me think for myself.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
These people who we interview. I always think it's interesting
when you leave a little bit of silence, because then
you get something you don't expect. So I always kind
of try to lean into the silence.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm glad you've told me that because I notice you
do that, and I have the fear of dead air. Yeah,
in real life, I'm the opposite. I lean into the silence,
the awkwardness, love it. But for these purposes, I get
really nervous and I notice you leave some air and
I try to take some.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
She that's you never expected and you don't even ask
for it, they just offer it.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's true. So anyway, don't leave me dead air, because
you do want me to start.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So funny. Well, welcome everybody, welcome. We're so happy we
can continue to do this with you guys. And this
is a really different episode. I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Say that, not a different episode of the podcast, but
it's a different ge episode.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Correct, correct, Okay, I think we should just talk about it.
There's lots of stuff that happened in the news in
the world around this time, so true, I do want
to notate some of these things. Okay. So this is
season two, episode seventeen. Can you believe we're at episode
seventeen or.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Almost was season two already and it hasn't been a year.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Whoa, whoa, we're just tracking on through. This is a
night of neglect, sure is. And it aired after a
five week five week hiatus on April nineteenth, two thousand
and eleven. What tell me what was going on in
the world.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Well, one of my favorite Katie Perry songs was number one.
No pause for a second. I love this song.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I despised this song.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I love it. I don't know why. I don't know why. Okay,
all right, I know, I get it, I understand, but
I absolutely love this song.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It was number one for a reason.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So yeah, I was number one for a while too.
I think the number one movie was Rio, great animated movie.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And oh Reo.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Okay, yes, do you remember Rio?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Okay, I didn't see it, but I remember.
I've yet to find a movie that was number one
on this one.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Why do you hate Brazil?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I don't we have the best Brazilian fans.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Wow, I haven't waited.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Try to save it, Jenna, I can't wait to visit. Okay,
So Glee news this week. There's a lot of Warbler news.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Now because the Warbles are hot. You know, it had
finally sunk in. Warbles are here to stay?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, they were. This is when you have to just
accept that the Warblers were Oh, Jenna, no, no, I
love the Warblers. But at the beginning, you're like, Okay,
who are these new people? Who are these new people
coming in?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Jenna hates Brazil and hates the Warblers.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Ah No, the Warblers are very very sweet. I just
was like, who are these new people coming in?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Steel in our scream time?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, to begin with.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay. So on April nineteenth, Glee the Music Presents the Warblers.
They have their own freaking album. This album featured thirteen songs.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Already, thirteen Warbler songs. That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That's confusing to me. Maybe there was a few that
didn't air yet but that were coming. Darren and the
Warblers also appeared on The Today Show to promote the album.
Later that week, Darren and the Warblers also performed on
Ellen DeGeneres, which the Glee cast didn't even perform on Ellen,
and then Darren had a signing at the Gross Barnes.
(06:14):
A noble in La also didn't have a signing.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, we did.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh, yes, you're right, we did have a sign Okay,
there was a new show in town, you know, correct.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Because they were only in like two scenes an episode,
so we were working. They could ship off the Warblers
to work.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And they were cute. Okay, there were a bunch of
cute boys, you know, so sweet Pentatonics like stuff. Yes,
they are really sweet.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
This episode was directed by our script supervisor at the time,
Carol Banker. I think this was our second episode. Yeah,
we talked, We were like, she got a tough one.
It's a tough episode.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I think to direct, very very tough when they're not
so straightforward. It's a lot of stuff, a.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Lot of random story points that need to be hit,
and they're all just sort of thrown into the soup,
the Glease soup.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Okay, So one of our very good friend Cheyenne Jackson
comes back is Dustin Goulesby, head of Vocal Adrenaline, and
then Gwyneth Paltrow as Holly Holiday will make another star
appearance in this episode, and.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I learned a lot from one of her scenes technical
acting wise.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Oh, I can't wait, I can't wait. The songs in
this episode, we get a Celine Dion song, we get
All by Myself, we get I Follow Rivers by Leaky
Lee Capack that with You, We do Turning Tables, our
first Adele number, and Ain't No Way, which also becomes
(07:53):
a Glease staple best song already doing Tarti takes best
song in the episode. Okay for sure, Yes, what's going
on in this episode?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So I would also just like to point out real
quick that this episode is about neglected artists, right, That's
sort of the theme for the week. And then we
do Celine dion Adele and Aretha Franklin.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I think I was the only one who did a
neglected artist.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Which I think you know is really a metaphor how
Tina's neglected.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Thank you so much for saying that, Yeah, thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So the New Directions need to find a way to
raise money to fund their trip to Nationals in New York,
and as they're discussing how they're going to do that
by shoes a wonderfully archaic idea of selling water taffy, Mike, Tina, Arti,
and Brittany reveal that they need money to travel to
(08:58):
their finals competition as part of the Brainyacs Where'd that
come from? Upon holly Holiday suggestion, Well in the Glee
club decided to host a benefit concert called a Knight
of Neglect, attempting to raise money for both clubs. Well
and Holly's relationship was tested while Sue creates a plan
to stop the Glee Club from getting to New York.
Fun Facts, Jenna. This is the first episode in the
(09:21):
series where all songs are performed in the auditorium, and
this is the only episode in season two where Rachel
doesn't sing, though I guess there was a song list
pre airing of the episode and it's said that she
was going to sing how Bye Lee Slope. Do you
remember that?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I don't remember that. She definitely didn't record it, or
I feel like I would have remembered it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, I mean that happened quite often. There were plans
to do seven songs, like we don't have time to
do this.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah. Also sometimes like they hadn't fully gotten the okay
from the artists yet they wrote, because you'd have to
keep moving and then reason something doesn't come through, and
you know whatever. So the rewrite essentially was that Rachel
decides she can't follow mer Sea and.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
To that point. I don't know if people realize this.
Where an episode was written, we would get the script
what a day or two before starting to shoot the episode,
and that episode would then take eight to ten days
to film, and then within three weeks that episode was
on TV, so it was a really tight turnaround. So yeah,
(10:32):
sometimes songs would be aspirational aspirationally put into the script
and then there's just not time to clear.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It, and that's not really normal. Let's just say that.
Also that like you get the script the night before,
generally speaking, there's enough time to start writing the season
before we start shooting, so you get ahead of it
and have a k few in the bank, and then
that way, your head and directors come in the week
you're before their episode and start prepping while you're shooting
(11:01):
the previous, the following episode.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
The previous, which is why there's usually different directors every.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Single episode, switching and switching, except when our exults does
back to back.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, except also nowadays when you have episodes that are
or seasons that are you know, eight to twelve episodes,
a lot of those are written completely in advance because
they have time and they can be released whenever. Right,
you know, it's a different world.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It is a different world, just like Super Super Special
never before done this episode. I have some memories from
I have some fond memories, I have some nons not
so fond memories. And I also didn't remember like half
(11:46):
of this episode.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, I didn't remember a lot of it. I forgot
about the brainiacts.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh I love the brainy acts.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I love them too. I wish we had to do
more of that. So what happens is, for some reason
it comes out that the money we were getting from
the Chairs fund is in an offshore account to hit
it and no one can access it. So we have
to magically raise twenty thousand dollars or no, sorry, five dollars.
(12:15):
Twenty thousand pieces of water taffy just needs to be sold,
just to.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Note five thousand dollars to get eighteen of us to
Nationals in New York.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Like we're taking a bus in staying in a hostel.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Inflation. You know it was twenty eleven, just a different time.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Sure, sorry, thank so.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Then already Tina, Mike and Brittany magically get up. Mike
has some choice words for the Glee Club, which I
think are true because he's like, you guys have never
you don't know the value of hard work. And we
admit that we were on a TV show that nobody
knew about for our brainiacs, the Cathlon, the Smart People Team,
(13:05):
and we won and we need to go to Nationals
and Detroit, so then that gets rolled in to the budget.
We need another five hundred dollars to get to Detroit.
I love filming the Brainiac scenes.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Me too, partially because it's only four of us, it's
a lot easier to shoot. But it was a good group.
It was a good crew. I love that crew of people,
and just the whole idea that it's like a different thing,
a different club that we're a part of that's not
really all the.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Anytime we could do something outside the like you know,
drinking alcohol and Rachel's basement is something anything outside of
the choir room, we're really stoked about.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Agreed, and the idea that Brittany was our like last choice,
last effort, and she wins us. Everything from cat Disease
is very funny, very very funny.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Pre fondou for two uh huh and the cats. Yeah,
it's important.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So we're raising we're raising money for both Nationals and
the Brainiacs and Holly Holidays back in town. And she's
the one who suggests that we do a Night of
Neglect benefit concert. She is dating Will at this point
they're having a date night. They have a pizza a
pizza night, and and and then we get into like
(14:40):
the whole I guess we get into the whole night
of neglecttion. We just talk about that because.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, I mean, that's what she suggests to do, you know,
neglected artists whose brilliance isn't always appreciated, which Rachel responds with,
Oh so you mean like me, and you're you want
to do leaky le Tina wants to perform, which I love.
I love leakily and love that leaky Lely ended up
(15:04):
in an episode and then it's one of those things
where you see how it's used, uh huh, and you're like, h.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I have to say, the way it was shot was
pretty cool. Yeah, she shot it really cool. Well, they
told me to go really far and like make it weird,
and I was like, oh, let's make it as weird
as I fucking can. Excuse my language, Like okay, you know, yeah,
(15:33):
once again, Well, this is the beginning of Tina getting
shot upon and her number getting caught in half.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That's been a theme this entire series. This is not
the first time you're interrupted, and it's not going to
be the last.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And sweet Josh Susman, who had said he felt so
bad hackling Tina during this number, and I'm the only
one of the night of Negligta where who gets hackled.
I don't i'd understand it where their head was. I
don't know that I ever will, but I've moved on
(16:07):
from it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
They you know, you had a thing. At least you
had a thing where even though like you couldn't finish
the song and you ended up crying, it was always funny,
but probably as a performer it was not.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, it's a little redundant and a little not fun
for your ego at the time, where you don't really
get a lot of storylines to begin with, and then
the ones you do generally you're getting shot upon. But
Tina will have her revenge in the episode of props,
so once they receipt I'm stoked for that episode. Sorry,
(16:45):
when it's season three, episode eleven or twenty, I can't.
I don't know why I have those in my head.
I'm probably wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, I wouldn't put money on it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Oh, episode twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You're right, Jenna, I'm sorry I doubted you.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I also, by the way, watched you on The Lady
Gang when they asked you to name the characters that
sang the songs, and I was very impressed with your memory,
Kevin Well.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I felt like, you know, Becca really teed me up.
I think those are pretty easy ones.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
There was one that you just foundered them faster than
I would have. I was like, wow, I showed up prepared.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But I said in my interview, people give me those
challenges all the time on TV talk shows, whatever it is,
and I fail miserably at every single one. I usually
don't even get one correct. Well, I was stoked. Also, yeah,
go listen to that episode. I was in the Lady
Gang a little bit ago, and of course I just
(17:46):
love them. They're great, and we have a really nice,
sort of adult, mature conversation about the state of art
careers or lack of Wait.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay, okay, So back to the team again. Shot Upon,
Mike decides he's gonna perform an awesome dance number, which God,
Harry is so freaking dowented.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
That number is great, is really great, and I think
it's overshadowed sometimes I don't I didn't remember that number
and it's so good and for him to be able
to hold that on his own and like it'd be
such a solid, cool number. I also was like, kudos
to Zach and Brook who helped with that and choreographed
that with him.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And also, that's a Jack Johnson song. We didn't mention
earlier because it's not covered. But there is another song
in this episode, right right, and Jack Johnson also not
neglected gigantic No, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So Mercedes wants to perform Aretha and the Glee Club
has yet to do and Aretha song in full? Is
that true? Well, we Mercedes sings respect right, and it's
just the audition, just the audition, so wow, huh. Yeah,
(19:01):
this is the first a lot of firsts. And Rachel
is going to do My Heart Will Gone because, which
is a is said by a group of us on
the show, one of the most popular songs and of
all time. And she's like, but she feels like then
I collect at ours, which is funny, Like this whole record,
it is pretty funny. She thinks she's my block dad.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I want more of this storyline, which one, this one,
this storyline of Zizes plotting with Mercedes about look, you
can't let Rachel stomp all over you and take the
spotlight from you because you're the best singer in the
glee club is what she says, right, And this whole
(19:44):
thing of turning her into a diva with the Eminem's
and the humidifiers that steam up the glass and Will's office,
it's just I think it's so good and it's like
a different it's not tater Tots, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
It's not tater Tots, and it's and then we get
like a blowout number from Mercedes because of it, you know, my.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
God, and it's a really nice moment between Mercedes and Rachel.
And I really enjoyed Rachel sort of being like, go
take it from me if you want the closing number,
and that number is I think she took. It means
a lot to us in real life because she did
that on tour.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
She would sing to us on tour. We would go
watch it from the floor and she would sing to
us that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Song is so difficult and Amber performed. I don't know
if you didn't go to our tour. There we had
a big A stage at the end of the arena
and then there was a little B stage. It was
a little square and she would do that down there
and normally people would stand, I think, you know, with
a microphone stand and use every fiber in their body
(20:54):
to get out the song. Amber's doing laps. Amber's literally
jogging across that stage and hitting these notes live every
single night. And she'd be like over here, ain't no way,
Like it's like, what how is she doing? She's talking,
she's jogging.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It's it's mind boggling, It's.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's infuriating because you know what would happened right after Jenna.
I'm sitting on the stage in my chair because Pyt
follows it, and you know what, I didn't do hint
those notes once correctly, but it was so special. I
would wheel out early and watch her sort of, you know,
from the wings at the other end of the arena,
(21:41):
just smashing the song. And then I would go out
there and just scream bloody murder, you know, making sure.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I remember it sounds like screaming.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
About it. Just a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
That following Amber.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But you on that though, I don't think that's yeah,
but still yeah, so funny, like what is the opposite
of ain't and away? Py T?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Stop it. That's not true, leaky Lye.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But she's so good and her mom, Tina is in
the choir behind her.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I think Amber gets them as much as you did,
say Tina, it's okay you were thinking looking at you.
So we also have a Sunshine corresson bag. Jake Cyrus
is back. She Sunshine. She sees the info about the
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benefit on Facebook, wants to be a part of it.
Glee clubs like, we know your spy. There's no way.
Rachel's like, you guys are idiots, but she offers us
her six hundred Twitter.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's actually being nice, like I was doing something nice
and Rachel's like, no, I don't trust you. And then
Sunshine's like, let me perform all by myself real quick
for you.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh. I was listening to the gleep a gleep playlist
recently and that came on, and I, for some reason
thought it was a Rachel song I had forgotten and
it came on. I was like, that's not we and
then I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's that voice is whooe absurd.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's we have two numbers that really are so difficult,
so wildly difficult that a lot of people should not
and cannot sing that song. And they both murder them.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So yeah, the right people were singing those songs. It
was unreal. And this episode. I love that Sunshine is back, Yes,
and like Sunshine's on the opposing team of the Brainiacs
earlier in the episode.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And I have to say this was also like Gwyneth's
appearance Steven Tabla.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh my god, the League Doom.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It really sort of felt like, I'm sure this is incorrect,
but it was sort of felt like we signed these
people on for more episodes and we're using them for.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And so we had to put them back in.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, like everyone felt a little shoehorned.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And I mean this whole episode, Yeah, I think they
felt a little shoehorned. And again though like vignettes of
really great storylines that were really funny that just didn't
quite move the plot along so much.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, and obviously like everybody's extremely good talented, everyone's very funny.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And Sunshine decides though at the last minute, that uh,
they're not going to make it and they're not going
to bring any of their followers.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
So because Yanne Jackson, Dustin heard about it and intervened.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And we lose we lose all of our our audience,
which made it even weirder. But we get the wonderful
famous line from Finn about it. What's that saying the
show's got to go all over the place or something.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How big do you smile when you watch that?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I know, it's it's just the it's the best.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
What's funny is is that, yeah, the gleekup's performing to
nobody except you know, four or five hecklers. But when
we actually usually perform the auditorium, there's nobody in there anyway,
And so I feel like the audience, you know, at
home watching is actually seeing what we normally see when
(25:40):
we're performing.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You're right, you're maybe a camera.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That's right. I mean, so what happens too is then
I neglect, there's all of the these hecklers show up.
We'll talk about them in a second, and then Mercedes
performs ain't a way, which, by the way, watching it,
I might have teared up.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Oh absinuitely.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I all of a sudden, I was like, what is
this moisture?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I think I'm gonna go watch it again after this.
I'm not kidding, I think I'm gonna go watch it again.
It is so so good.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I think that paired with the storyline of you know,
her not getting her due, something about having tiny singing
behind her and there's something in Amber's face while she's
performing it where it just you know, and this like crazy,
silly episode felt that stirred something in me and it
(26:35):
was like, oh, Amber's powerful. I mean, she's she's really
doing this.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'm a miraitual person, I'm not religious, but she took
me to church.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh you know, I was. I was sitting on the
couch eating a bowl of cereal and started crying. So
something was happening. Yeah, And then she goes off the
stage and tells Rachel to go kill it, and Rachel's like, no,
that was it. You did it, You did do it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Meanwhile, Holly, one of our teachers again inappropriately performance during
our own Night of Neglect, does turning Tables, which love.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
This was the moment. So we were not in there.
We were not off camera or anything for that number,
I don't believe. And Kelly Kusakis, the cousman, was in
there because he and GP hit it off and so
he was there with her, and I went and watched
(27:33):
with him in the very back of the auditorium. And
you know how they shoot it. They do the wide
shot first in the back, and they move up and
get closer and closer and closer until finally Andrew's on
the steady cam on the stage, and so you're watching
her shoot this, and it's a technical thing of she's
(27:54):
obviously performing, but the wider they are, she's sort of
gesticulating a bit more. Really a lot going on with
her face.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And I was like, what's happening? And then Tell He's like,
just watch, and then as they move in closer, she's
saving it, and so she's playing to whatever's happening in
the camera position they get on stage, she was They
didn't use any of the takes because maybe it was
doing I think she was actually tearing up in some
of them. She was giving them different options of a
(28:26):
range of emotions, and I was sitting there, I was like, hmm,
that's that's an oscar Win exactly exactly. Also, I think
there's something about like the you're preserving yourself for the
performance the things that matter too, because how many times
did we go full out when it's so wide you're
(28:48):
like playing on our face and like by the time
they actually get getting close, you're done, You're dead.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, that's very true. I also do think that the
more you say it, the more organic your thing is.
Going to be that you don't have to recreate it, right,
So emotionally saving yourself and then also giving for your
most authentic performance is actually when they're actually recording your face,
(29:15):
that's amazing. Well there's an there's a professional.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
For you, you know, And I know we've mentioned this,
but anytime she was off camera, did one of her
movement blocking everything, and not everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Did that, and it was special. So there's this other
storyline that's going on that Sue brings in Sandy Ryerson,
Justin Goolsby Cherister to titles it the League of Doom
(30:02):
their group, and then to take down Will and stop
the Leaue Club from winning nationals and going to New York.
Not her best plot, not her best plot, but what
a funny little panel of people, truly, what a funny
little panel. And she gives them super villain names, which
I love, the pink dagger, the honey Badger for Terry,
(30:25):
the pink dagger for signed Sandy Ryerson, Dustin Goldsby is
sergeant handsome, and Sue's General's odd. There's not a lot
to talk about.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
In the system. The adults just getting into the school.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
At the school very lax and creating actually a heck
and then Sue gets uh Sandy Ryerson to lead a
heckling club, which is also just like bullying basically.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
And that's very funny though I Exmo immediately speaks up.
She's like great, they talk about the different like chat rooms,
the Reddit threads there aren't is really We also get a.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Lot of returning characters, like again like Exemia, we haven't
seen it a long time, James Earl. And so the
hecklers come and they they're successful at their heckling, making
Tina cry, but Holly talks to them coming through and
(31:38):
and kind of just convinces them to not heckle anymore.
You know what I gotta say, if you like that line,
I just thought that convinces them to not heckle anymore.
A welcome for that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I really love Holly Holidays little groups of sort of
therapizing people the past two episodes. I really love it,
and I'm going to miss it. I think, Yeah, I
think it's like a really special part of Like I
don't necessarily care about her teaching so not so sometimes.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Which that last look on you guys is the Brainiacs
is pure comedic genius.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I love that and the white rappers.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
One, you're a white rapper. It's like in alcohol when
you're like, yeah, I want some Bodimir, Yeah I have.
You're on a roll, Kevin, Yeah, so ill that I
get those hecklers to leave. And then Sandy Ryerson, understandably
is so moved by Ain't no way immediately goes, I
(32:44):
love this song. So then he single handedly pays with
his drug money for the Glee Club and for the
Brainiacs to get where they need to go for Nationals.
Do we ever find out what happens with the Brainiacs
at Nationals?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Or is that just gone?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
We win?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Do we talk about it?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
No, it's just assumed. Oh okay, with the with the
Nazi sympathizers, it's it's a it's assumed.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh right, I'm sorry, I just had a brain fart.
I forgot it was in this episode. I'm the host
of this.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And then we have well we shouldn't be, but it's okay,
here we are. And then you know, of course we
need to give Holle some more things to do, so
her and Will kind of tie up their relationship because
Emma that the end of an era. Emma and Carl
are don Carl has left and he has asked for
a nomen because they have not consummated the marriage. So
(33:42):
totally okay. And and then Holly reveals she was offered
a job in Cleveland, and so she's leaping and.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
She's got to go goop. She got to goop it up,
like I'm busy, And they just freed up a lot
of that budget, you know, staym loss and palchow out.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
We need it for our New York trip exactly. And
then Holly also says, like, obviously Will's you're in loone
with somebody else, so I've got to go. That's the
last time we see Holly Holliday for quite a bit
of time.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, there's the scene when so Kurt and Blaine, you know,
make their appearance. They're they're the support and I have
neglect and Krofski's magically at the school after hours as well,
and you know, at this point, I think it's considered
stalking what he's doing. Yeah, but Santana is lurking like
(34:40):
she does, and here's Korofsky insulting them and steps in
and is questioning what the three of them are alluding
to with the big secret that Korofsky has and then
does a beautiful threatening dismantling of him and gets him
(35:01):
to leave to raise your blades in her hair, and
it was just I thought it was wonderful the three
of them together. It was like, oh, like the queer kids,
all four of them bonding together and it was nice.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And the one that's lashing out, yeah, exactly another zinger
from Santana. Yeah, and there you have it. That's Night
of Neglect. It was.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
It was fun to shoot. It was really fun to shoot, though.
I remember it like all of those scenes of the
Brainy acts. Yeah, watching all the different performances, it's an
easier shoot. We're watching people a lot of the time,
and it's all individual. Lots of chopped up things. I
remember from this like a lot of chopped up moments.
And then also not even seeing any of the League
(35:52):
of Doom until, like, you know, they show it, totally
showed it to us.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
But it was a fun. Yeah. My favorite from this
episode is the Braini's shooting the Brady X. You know.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That makes me think too. I feel like when a
lot of these episodes happen where things are chopped up
is usually because the next episode or two. There's a
lot of group things, and so we are probably in rehearsals.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I'm stoked for next episode. I just have to say.
It is some of my favorite songs that all in
one episode.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Wow, there's yes, there's some bangers.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I wow, yeah, I get Wait, I'm really excited for
this coming episode.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Next episode, it's born this way.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
If you're wondering, let's just do some tarty takes, let's
do it absolutely okay, cringe moments, Oh jeez.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Oh god. You know, Sandy Ryerson makes me uncomfortable. As
much as I love Doblosky.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Why is he allowed back at that school?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I don't know. And it's like Will's like, yeah, you
can funnel your drug money through the Glee clup.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
He also like acknowledges that he's a predatory gay.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, it's weird. It's honestly not not okay.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, I'm glad they're acknowledging how awful like and creepy
he is at.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Least always but not so good. The best dance move
goes to Mike Chang, obviously, just and that song goes
to Mercedes. Ain't no way easy obviously.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
The prop You know what I thought was really cool
was during Harry's dance he lifts that little platform and
there's the the mop lady.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I loved it. I loved it. Brittany also eating the dots.
It is really funny.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So the dots. I love dots, Dots. If you would
like to sponsor us, I love you. I get stuck
in my teeth, I know, but it's worth it. Like
that's the one candy that gets stuck in my teeth. Mike,
I'll do it, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Best line, Kevin oh Man, I've got one. Okay go,
And I like it because it involves all of us.
But I also like it because we're calling a spade
a spade. Will says, wait, I get the three of
you being on the team, and Puck says, is it
because two of them are Asian and already wears glasses?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
It's very good. Yeah, and also like what a rude
thing for a teacher to say about a student.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I like it. It's true, it's true, but again we'll
say inappropriate. Just Will being well.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I have a couple of favorite lines, but I think
maybe Santana saying, see here's it's going to go down.
Two choices. You stay here and I crack one of
your nuts right or left, that's your choice, or walk
away and live to be a douchebag another day. And
also I have razor blades hitting in my hair, tons
just all up in there. I also like Mercedes you know,
(38:58):
scene about the things she wants. I wish we also
had more zizes and being Mercedes manager, I thought that
was great.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I know, I like, could we bring that back? Could
that keep going? Yeah? Performance MVP. I think I'm going
with Amber.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I think so right, I think so just that even
that song alone, but also every scene she was in.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, I give it to her.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, okay, Jenna, Okay. Should we found a TikTok this week?
Mollotov Catnip is their name on TikTok posted a video
of these three people running in public, all dressed and
identical so Sylvester tracksuits and wigs.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
It's pretty late, very crowded space.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Very crowded public like park, and people are staring at them.
They even my favorite bit is they do the Spider
Man meme. We're all through them are pointing at each other.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Comic con.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, it looks like a comic con.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, amazing, this is awesome. Go on.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
It's beautiful work. It's really really great. I wish more
people did that, just run through public dresses, seal selvester
mm hmmm. I mean, I love it so much. I
watched it several times because it makes me a little uncomfortable,
but also it's Hilaire, so thanks for doing that. Thanks
(40:31):
for tagging us in it. That was great, And next
week is born this way. How exciting.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
You know, the episodes that you and I fear watching
are the ones we end up talking about at length
almost every type.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
What are you getting at, Kevin, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
We like to err a grievances.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, well that's what you really missed.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Thanks for joining us, come back next week. Bye bye.
Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and
that's what you really miss pod and make sure to
write us a review and leave us five stars. See
you next time.
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, and I would just like to
draw the listener's attention to that. Jenna paused before she
said that and said, how do I want to start this?
And then that, and that's what came out.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I was thinking like nineties radio VJ, but like, couldn't
couldn't quite get there.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Okay, I respect, I respect your decision, your choice, seeing
as we like can't act right now. You know that
was an attempt. It's something different.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You know, she's making choices people, and I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I would just like to say as a disclaimer and
like a retroactive and also future apology. I was talking
to some friends today and talking about how I think
you're really great at interviewing people, Like when we of
our episodes interviewing guests, whether it's co stars or musical artists, whoever.
Uh huh, you're so good. And I say, I always
(01:10):
say that I have at least one moment in every
single interview. Well, I maybe won't even ask a question,
but I go on and on and on like right
now with like a statement just about the person, and
I can see it in your eyes where you don't care,
but you're like, all right, there we go, it's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's where you make your choices.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, and they're not good. They're not good choices. And
I would just like to publicly state that I will
try to do better. Kevin, I need the public to
hold me accountable.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I think you're a very good interviewer, so you know,
we're learning, We are learning, we are learning. I think
you're so smart that sometimes you feel like you have
to profess the question where you don't. But sometimes they
are very profound things that you say.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So that's a.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Compelling you know.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, someone was like, didn't you host a talk show
in the UK? Say, well, I had somebody in my
ear telling me what to say. I'm a puppet. I
can if you give me the joke, I can deliver it.
You know, don't make me think for myself.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
These people who we interview. I always think it's interesting
when you leave a little bit of silence, because then
you get something you don't expect. So I always kind
of try to lean into the silence.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm glad you've told me that because I notice you
do that, and I have the fear of dead air. Yeah,
in real life, I'm the opposite. I lean into the silence,
the awkwardness, love it. But for these purposes, I get
really nervous and I notice you leave some air and
I try to take some.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
She that's you never expected and you don't even ask
for it, they just offer it.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's true. So anyway, don't leave me dead air, because
you do want me to start.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So funny. Well, welcome everybody, welcome. We're so happy we
can continue to do this with you guys. And this
is a really different episode. I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Say that, not a different episode of the podcast, but
it's a different ge episode.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Correct, correct, Okay, I think we should just talk about it.
There's lots of stuff that happened in the news in
the world around this time, so true, I do want
to notate some of these things. Okay. So this is
season two, episode seventeen. Can you believe we're at episode
seventeen or.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Almost was season two already and it hasn't been a year.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Whoa, whoa, we're just tracking on through. This is a
night of neglect, sure is. And it aired after a
five week five week hiatus on April nineteenth, two thousand
and eleven. What tell me what was going on in
the world.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Well, one of my favorite Katie Perry songs was number one.
No pause for a second. I love this song.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I despised this song.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I love it. I don't know why. I don't know why. Okay,
all right, I know, I get it, I understand, but
I absolutely love this song.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It was number one for a reason.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So yeah, I was number one for a while too.
I think the number one movie was Rio, great animated movie.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And oh Reo.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Okay, yes, do you remember Rio?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Okay, I didn't see it, but I remember.
I've yet to find a movie that was number one
on this one.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Why do you hate Brazil?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I don't we have the best Brazilian fans.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Wow, I haven't waited.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Try to save it, Jenna, I can't wait to visit. Okay,
So Glee news this week. There's a lot of Warbler news.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Now because the Warbles are hot. You know, it had
finally sunk in. Warbles are here to stay?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, they were. This is when you have to just
accept that the Warblers were Oh, Jenna, no, no, I
love the Warblers. But at the beginning, you're like, Okay,
who are these new people? Who are these new people
coming in?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Jenna hates Brazil and hates the Warblers.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Ah No, the Warblers are very very sweet. I just
was like, who are these new people coming in?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Steel in our scream time?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, to begin with.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay. So on April nineteenth, Glee the Music Presents the Warblers.
They have their own freaking album. This album featured thirteen songs.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Already, thirteen Warbler songs. That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That's confusing to me. Maybe there was a few that
didn't air yet but that were coming. Darren and the
Warblers also appeared on The Today Show to promote the album.
Later that week, Darren and the Warblers also performed on
Ellen DeGeneres, which the Glee cast didn't even perform on Ellen,
and then Darren had a signing at the Gross Barnes.
(06:14):
A noble in La also didn't have a signing.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, we did.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh, yes, you're right, we did have a sign Okay,
there was a new show in town, you know, correct.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Because they were only in like two scenes an episode,
so we were working. They could ship off the Warblers
to work.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And they were cute. Okay, there were a bunch of
cute boys, you know, so sweet Pentatonics like stuff. Yes,
they are really sweet.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
This episode was directed by our script supervisor at the time,
Carol Banker. I think this was our second episode. Yeah,
we talked, We were like, she got a tough one.
It's a tough episode.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I think to direct, very very tough when they're not
so straightforward. It's a lot of stuff, a.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Lot of random story points that need to be hit,
and they're all just sort of thrown into the soup,
the Glease soup.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Okay, So one of our very good friend Cheyenne Jackson
comes back is Dustin Goulesby, head of Vocal Adrenaline, and
then Gwyneth Paltrow as Holly Holiday will make another star
appearance in this episode, and.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I learned a lot from one of her scenes technical
acting wise.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Oh, I can't wait, I can't wait. The songs in
this episode, we get a Celine Dion song, we get
All by Myself, we get I Follow Rivers by Leaky
Lee Capack that with You, We do Turning Tables, our
first Adele number, and Ain't No Way, which also becomes
(07:53):
a Glease staple best song already doing Tarti takes best
song in the episode. Okay for sure, Yes, what's going
on in this episode?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So I would also just like to point out real
quick that this episode is about neglected artists, right, That's
sort of the theme for the week. And then we
do Celine dion Adele and Aretha Franklin.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I think I was the only one who did a
neglected artist.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Which I think you know is really a metaphor how
Tina's neglected.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Thank you so much for saying that, Yeah, thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So the New Directions need to find a way to
raise money to fund their trip to Nationals in New York,
and as they're discussing how they're going to do that
by shoes a wonderfully archaic idea of selling water taffy, Mike, Tina, Arti,
and Brittany reveal that they need money to travel to
(08:58):
their finals competition as part of the Brainyacs Where'd that
come from? Upon holly Holiday suggestion, Well in the Glee
club decided to host a benefit concert called a Knight
of Neglect, attempting to raise money for both clubs. Well
and Holly's relationship was tested while Sue creates a plan
to stop the Glee Club from getting to New York.
Fun Facts, Jenna. This is the first episode in the
(09:21):
series where all songs are performed in the auditorium, and
this is the only episode in season two where Rachel
doesn't sing, though I guess there was a song list
pre airing of the episode and it's said that she
was going to sing how Bye Lee Slope. Do you
remember that?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I don't remember that. She definitely didn't record it, or
I feel like I would have remembered it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, I mean that happened quite often. There were plans
to do seven songs, like we don't have time to
do this.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah. Also sometimes like they hadn't fully gotten the okay
from the artists yet they wrote, because you'd have to
keep moving and then reason something doesn't come through, and
you know whatever. So the rewrite essentially was that Rachel
decides she can't follow mer Sea and.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
To that point. I don't know if people realize this.
Where an episode was written, we would get the script
what a day or two before starting to shoot the episode,
and that episode would then take eight to ten days
to film, and then within three weeks that episode was
on TV, so it was a really tight turnaround. So yeah,
(10:32):
sometimes songs would be aspirational aspirationally put into the script
and then there's just not time to clear.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It, and that's not really normal. Let's just say that.
Also that like you get the script the night before,
generally speaking, there's enough time to start writing the season
before we start shooting, so you get ahead of it
and have a k few in the bank, and then
that way, your head and directors come in the week
you're before their episode and start prepping while you're shooting
(11:01):
the previous, the following episode.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
The previous, which is why there's usually different directors every.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Single episode, switching and switching, except when our exults does
back to back.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, except also nowadays when you have episodes that are
or seasons that are you know, eight to twelve episodes,
a lot of those are written completely in advance because
they have time and they can be released whenever. Right,
you know, it's a different world.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It is a different world, just like Super Super Special
never before done this episode. I have some memories from
I have some fond memories, I have some nons not
so fond memories. And I also didn't remember like half
(11:46):
of this episode.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, I didn't remember a lot of it. I forgot
about the brainiacts.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh I love the brainy acts.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I love them too. I wish we had to do
more of that. So what happens is, for some reason
it comes out that the money we were getting from
the Chairs fund is in an offshore account to hit
it and no one can access it. So we have
to magically raise twenty thousand dollars or no, sorry, five dollars.
(12:15):
Twenty thousand pieces of water taffy just needs to be sold,
just to.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Note five thousand dollars to get eighteen of us to
Nationals in New York.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Like we're taking a bus in staying in a hostel.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Inflation. You know it was twenty eleven, just a different time.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Sure, sorry, thank so.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Then already Tina, Mike and Brittany magically get up. Mike
has some choice words for the Glee Club, which I
think are true because he's like, you guys have never
you don't know the value of hard work. And we
admit that we were on a TV show that nobody
knew about for our brainiacs, the Cathlon, the Smart People Team,
(13:05):
and we won and we need to go to Nationals
and Detroit, so then that gets rolled in to the budget.
We need another five hundred dollars to get to Detroit.
I love filming the Brainiac scenes.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Me too, partially because it's only four of us, it's
a lot easier to shoot. But it was a good group.
It was a good crew. I love that crew of people,
and just the whole idea that it's like a different thing,
a different club that we're a part of that's not
really all the.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Anytime we could do something outside the like you know,
drinking alcohol and Rachel's basement is something anything outside of
the choir room, we're really stoked about.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Agreed, and the idea that Brittany was our like last choice,
last effort, and she wins us. Everything from cat Disease
is very funny, very very funny.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Pre fondou for two uh huh and the cats. Yeah,
it's important.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So we're raising we're raising money for both Nationals and
the Brainiacs and Holly Holidays back in town. And she's
the one who suggests that we do a Night of
Neglect benefit concert. She is dating Will at this point
they're having a date night. They have a pizza a
pizza night, and and and then we get into like
(14:40):
the whole I guess we get into the whole night
of neglecttion. We just talk about that because.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, I mean, that's what she suggests to do, you know,
neglected artists whose brilliance isn't always appreciated, which Rachel responds with,
Oh so you mean like me, and you're you want
to do leaky le Tina wants to perform, which I love.
I love leakily and love that leaky Lely ended up
(15:04):
in an episode and then it's one of those things
where you see how it's used, uh huh, and you're like, h.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I have to say, the way it was shot was
pretty cool. Yeah, she shot it really cool. Well, they
told me to go really far and like make it weird,
and I was like, oh, let's make it as weird
as I fucking can. Excuse my language, Like okay, you know, yeah,
(15:33):
once again, Well, this is the beginning of Tina getting
shot upon and her number getting caught in half.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That's been a theme this entire series. This is not
the first time you're interrupted, and it's not going to
be the last.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And sweet Josh Susman, who had said he felt so
bad hackling Tina during this number, and I'm the only
one of the night of Negligta where who gets hackled.
I don't i'd understand it where their head was. I
don't know that I ever will, but I've moved on
(16:07):
from it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
They you know, you had a thing. At least you
had a thing where even though like you couldn't finish
the song and you ended up crying, it was always funny,
but probably as a performer it was not.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, it's a little redundant and a little not fun
for your ego at the time, where you don't really
get a lot of storylines to begin with, and then
the ones you do generally you're getting shot upon. But
Tina will have her revenge in the episode of props,
so once they receipt I'm stoked for that episode. Sorry,
(16:45):
when it's season three, episode eleven or twenty, I can't.
I don't know why I have those in my head.
I'm probably wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, I wouldn't put money on it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Oh, episode twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You're right, Jenna, I'm sorry I doubted you.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I also, by the way, watched you on The Lady
Gang when they asked you to name the characters that
sang the songs, and I was very impressed with your memory,
Kevin Well.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I felt like, you know, Becca really teed me up.
I think those are pretty easy ones.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
There was one that you just foundered them faster than
I would have. I was like, wow, I showed up prepared.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But I said in my interview, people give me those
challenges all the time on TV talk shows, whatever it is,
and I fail miserably at every single one. I usually
don't even get one correct. Well, I was stoked. Also, yeah,
go listen to that episode. I was in the Lady
Gang a little bit ago, and of course I just
(17:46):
love them. They're great, and we have a really nice,
sort of adult, mature conversation about the state of art
careers or lack of Wait.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay, okay, So back to the team again. Shot Upon,
Mike decides he's gonna perform an awesome dance number, which God,
Harry is so freaking dowented.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
That number is great, is really great, and I think
it's overshadowed sometimes I don't I didn't remember that number
and it's so good and for him to be able
to hold that on his own and like it'd be
such a solid, cool number. I also was like, kudos
to Zach and Brook who helped with that and choreographed
that with him.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And also, that's a Jack Johnson song. We didn't mention
earlier because it's not covered. But there is another song
in this episode, right right, and Jack Johnson also not
neglected gigantic No, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So Mercedes wants to perform Aretha and the Glee Club
has yet to do and Aretha song in full? Is
that true? Well, we Mercedes sings respect right, and it's
just the audition, just the audition, so wow, huh. Yeah,
(19:01):
this is the first a lot of firsts. And Rachel
is going to do My Heart Will Gone because, which
is a is said by a group of us on
the show, one of the most popular songs and of
all time. And she's like, but she feels like then
I collect at ours, which is funny, Like this whole record,
it is pretty funny. She thinks she's my block dad.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I want more of this storyline, which one, this one,
this storyline of Zizes plotting with Mercedes about look, you
can't let Rachel stomp all over you and take the
spotlight from you because you're the best singer in the
glee club is what she says, right, And this whole
(19:44):
thing of turning her into a diva with the Eminem's
and the humidifiers that steam up the glass and Will's office,
it's just I think it's so good and it's like
a different it's not tater Tots, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
It's not tater Tots, and it's and then we get
like a blowout number from Mercedes because of it, you know, my.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
God, and it's a really nice moment between Mercedes and Rachel.
And I really enjoyed Rachel sort of being like, go
take it from me if you want the closing number,
and that number is I think she took. It means
a lot to us in real life because she did
that on tour.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
She would sing to us on tour. We would go
watch it from the floor and she would sing to
us that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Song is so difficult and Amber performed. I don't know
if you didn't go to our tour. There we had
a big A stage at the end of the arena
and then there was a little B stage. It was
a little square and she would do that down there
and normally people would stand, I think, you know, with
a microphone stand and use every fiber in their body
(20:54):
to get out the song. Amber's doing laps. Amber's literally
jogging across that stage and hitting these notes live every
single night. And she'd be like over here, ain't no way,
Like it's like, what how is she doing? She's talking,
she's jogging.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It's it's mind boggling, It's.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's infuriating because you know what would happened right after Jenna.
I'm sitting on the stage in my chair because Pyt
follows it, and you know what, I didn't do hint
those notes once correctly, but it was so special. I
would wheel out early and watch her sort of, you know,
from the wings at the other end of the arena,
(21:41):
just smashing the song. And then I would go out
there and just scream bloody murder, you know, making sure.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I remember it sounds like screaming.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
About it. Just a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
That following Amber.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But you on that though, I don't think that's yeah,
but still yeah, so funny, like what is the opposite
of ain't and away? Py T?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Stop it. That's not true, leaky Lye.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But she's so good and her mom, Tina is in
the choir behind her.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I think Amber gets them as much as you did,
say Tina, it's okay you were thinking looking at you.
So we also have a Sunshine corresson bag. Jake Cyrus
is back. She Sunshine. She sees the info about the
(22:43):
benefit on Facebook, wants to be a part of it.
Glee clubs like, we know your spy. There's no way.
Rachel's like, you guys are idiots, but she offers us
her six hundred Twitter.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's actually being nice, like I was doing something nice
and Rachel's like, no, I don't trust you. And then
Sunshine's like, let me perform all by myself real quick
for you.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh. I was listening to the gleep a gleep playlist
recently and that came on, and I, for some reason
thought it was a Rachel song I had forgotten and
it came on. I was like, that's not we and
then I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's that voice is whooe absurd.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's we have two numbers that really are so difficult,
so wildly difficult that a lot of people should not
and cannot sing that song. And they both murder them.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So yeah, the right people were singing those songs. It
was unreal. And this episode. I love that Sunshine is back, Yes,
and like Sunshine's on the opposing team of the Brainiacs
earlier in the episode.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And I have to say this was also like Gwyneth's
appearance Steven Tabla.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh my god, the League Doom.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It really sort of felt like, I'm sure this is incorrect,
but it was sort of felt like we signed these
people on for more episodes and we're using them for.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And so we had to put them back in.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, like everyone felt a little shoehorned.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And I mean this whole episode, Yeah, I think they
felt a little shoehorned. And again though like vignettes of
really great storylines that were really funny that just didn't
quite move the plot along so much.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, and obviously like everybody's extremely good talented, everyone's very funny.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And Sunshine decides though at the last minute, that uh,
they're not going to make it and they're not going
to bring any of their followers.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
So because Yanne Jackson, Dustin heard about it and intervened.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And we lose we lose all of our our audience,
which made it even weirder. But we get the wonderful
famous line from Finn about it. What's that saying the
show's got to go all over the place or something.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How big do you smile when you watch that?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I know, it's it's just the it's the best.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
What's funny is is that, yeah, the gleekup's performing to
nobody except you know, four or five hecklers. But when
we actually usually perform the auditorium, there's nobody in there anyway,
And so I feel like the audience, you know, at
home watching is actually seeing what we normally see when
(25:40):
we're performing.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You're right, you're maybe a camera.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That's right. I mean, so what happens too is then
I neglect, there's all of the these hecklers show up.
We'll talk about them in a second, and then Mercedes
performs ain't a way, which, by the way, watching it,
I might have teared up.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Oh absinuitely.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I all of a sudden, I was like, what is
this moisture?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I think I'm gonna go watch it again after this.
I'm not kidding, I think I'm gonna go watch it again.
It is so so good.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I think that paired with the storyline of you know,
her not getting her due, something about having tiny singing
behind her and there's something in Amber's face while she's
performing it where it just you know, and this like crazy,
silly episode felt that stirred something in me and it
(26:35):
was like, oh, Amber's powerful. I mean, she's she's really
doing this.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'm a miraitual person, I'm not religious, but she took
me to church.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh you know, I was. I was sitting on the
couch eating a bowl of cereal and started crying. So
something was happening. Yeah, And then she goes off the
stage and tells Rachel to go kill it, and Rachel's like, no,
that was it. You did it, You did do it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Meanwhile, Holly, one of our teachers again inappropriately performance during
our own Night of Neglect, does turning Tables, which love.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
This was the moment. So we were not in there.
We were not off camera or anything for that number,
I don't believe. And Kelly Kusakis, the cousman, was in
there because he and GP hit it off and so
he was there with her, and I went and watched
(27:33):
with him in the very back of the auditorium. And
you know how they shoot it. They do the wide
shot first in the back, and they move up and
get closer and closer and closer until finally Andrew's on
the steady cam on the stage, and so you're watching
her shoot this, and it's a technical thing of she's
(27:54):
obviously performing, but the wider they are, she's sort of
gesticulating a bit more. Really a lot going on with
her face.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And I was like, what's happening? And then Tell He's like,
just watch, and then as they move in closer, she's
saving it, and so she's playing to whatever's happening in
the camera position they get on stage, she was They
didn't use any of the takes because maybe it was
doing I think she was actually tearing up in some
of them. She was giving them different options of a
(28:26):
range of emotions, and I was sitting there, I was like, hmm,
that's that's an oscar Win exactly exactly. Also, I think
there's something about like the you're preserving yourself for the
performance the things that matter too, because how many times
did we go full out when it's so wide you're
(28:48):
like playing on our face and like by the time
they actually get getting close, you're done, You're dead.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, that's very true. I also do think that the
more you say it, the more organic your thing is.
Going to be that you don't have to recreate it, right,
So emotionally saving yourself and then also giving for your
most authentic performance is actually when they're actually recording your face,
(29:15):
that's amazing. Well there's an there's a professional.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
For you, you know, And I know we've mentioned this,
but anytime she was off camera, did one of her
movement blocking everything, and not everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Did that, and it was special. So there's this other
storyline that's going on that Sue brings in Sandy Ryerson,
Justin Goolsby Cherister to titles it the League of Doom
(30:02):
their group, and then to take down Will and stop
the Leaue Club from winning nationals and going to New York.
Not her best plot, not her best plot, but what
a funny little panel of people, truly, what a funny
little panel. And she gives them super villain names, which
I love, the pink dagger, the honey Badger for Terry,
(30:25):
the pink dagger for signed Sandy Ryerson, Dustin Goldsby is
sergeant handsome, and Sue's General's odd. There's not a lot
to talk about.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
In the system. The adults just getting into the school.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
At the school very lax and creating actually a heck
and then Sue gets uh Sandy Ryerson to lead a
heckling club, which is also just like bullying basically.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
And that's very funny though I Exmo immediately speaks up.
She's like great, they talk about the different like chat rooms,
the Reddit threads there aren't is really We also get a.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Lot of returning characters, like again like Exemia, we haven't
seen it a long time, James Earl. And so the
hecklers come and they they're successful at their heckling, making
Tina cry, but Holly talks to them coming through and
(31:38):
and kind of just convinces them to not heckle anymore.
You know what I gotta say, if you like that line,
I just thought that convinces them to not heckle anymore.
A welcome for that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I really love Holly Holidays little groups of sort of
therapizing people the past two episodes. I really love it,
and I'm going to miss it. I think, Yeah, I
think it's like a really special part of Like I
don't necessarily care about her teaching so not so sometimes.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Which that last look on you guys is the Brainiacs
is pure comedic genius.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I love that and the white rappers.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
One, you're a white rapper. It's like in alcohol when
you're like, yeah, I want some Bodimir, Yeah I have.
You're on a roll, Kevin, Yeah, so ill that I
get those hecklers to leave. And then Sandy Ryerson, understandably
is so moved by Ain't no way immediately goes, I
(32:44):
love this song. So then he single handedly pays with
his drug money for the Glee Club and for the
Brainiacs to get where they need to go for Nationals.
Do we ever find out what happens with the Brainiacs
at Nationals?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Or is that just gone?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
We win?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Do we talk about it?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
No, it's just assumed. Oh okay, with the with the
Nazi sympathizers, it's it's a it's assumed.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh right, I'm sorry, I just had a brain fart.
I forgot it was in this episode. I'm the host
of this.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And then we have well we shouldn't be, but it's okay,
here we are. And then you know, of course we
need to give Holle some more things to do, so
her and Will kind of tie up their relationship because
Emma that the end of an era. Emma and Carl
are don Carl has left and he has asked for
a nomen because they have not consummated the marriage. So
(33:42):
totally okay. And and then Holly reveals she was offered
a job in Cleveland, and so she's leaping and.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
She's got to go goop. She got to goop it up,
like I'm busy, And they just freed up a lot
of that budget, you know, staym loss and palchow out.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
We need it for our New York trip exactly. And
then Holly also says, like, obviously Will's you're in loone
with somebody else, so I've got to go. That's the
last time we see Holly Holliday for quite a bit
of time.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, there's the scene when so Kurt and Blaine, you know,
make their appearance. They're they're the support and I have
neglect and Krofski's magically at the school after hours as well,
and you know, at this point, I think it's considered
stalking what he's doing. Yeah, but Santana is lurking like
(34:40):
she does, and here's Korofsky insulting them and steps in
and is questioning what the three of them are alluding
to with the big secret that Korofsky has and then
does a beautiful threatening dismantling of him and gets him
(35:01):
to leave to raise your blades in her hair, and
it was just I thought it was wonderful the three
of them together. It was like, oh, like the queer kids,
all four of them bonding together and it was nice.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And the one that's lashing out, yeah, exactly another zinger
from Santana. Yeah, and there you have it. That's Night
of Neglect. It was.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
It was fun to shoot. It was really fun to shoot, though.
I remember it like all of those scenes of the
Brainy acts. Yeah, watching all the different performances, it's an
easier shoot. We're watching people a lot of the time,
and it's all individual. Lots of chopped up things. I
remember from this like a lot of chopped up moments.
And then also not even seeing any of the League
(35:52):
of Doom until, like, you know, they show it, totally
showed it to us.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
But it was a fun. Yeah. My favorite from this
episode is the Braini's shooting the Brady X. You know.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That makes me think too. I feel like when a
lot of these episodes happen where things are chopped up
is usually because the next episode or two. There's a
lot of group things, and so we are probably in rehearsals.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I'm stoked for next episode. I just have to say.
It is some of my favorite songs that all in
one episode.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Wow, there's yes, there's some bangers.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I wow, yeah, I get Wait, I'm really excited for
this coming episode.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Next episode, it's born this way.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
If you're wondering, let's just do some tarty takes, let's
do it absolutely okay, cringe moments, Oh jeez.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Oh god. You know, Sandy Ryerson makes me uncomfortable. As
much as I love Doblosky.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Why is he allowed back at that school?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I don't know. And it's like Will's like, yeah, you
can funnel your drug money through the Glee clup.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
He also like acknowledges that he's a predatory gay.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, it's weird. It's honestly not not okay.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, I'm glad they're acknowledging how awful like and creepy
he is at.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Least always but not so good. The best dance move
goes to Mike Chang, obviously, just and that song goes
to Mercedes. Ain't no way easy obviously.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
The prop You know what I thought was really cool
was during Harry's dance he lifts that little platform and
there's the the mop lady.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I loved it. I loved it. Brittany also eating the dots.
It is really funny.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So the dots. I love dots, Dots. If you would
like to sponsor us, I love you. I get stuck
in my teeth, I know, but it's worth it. Like
that's the one candy that gets stuck in my teeth. Mike,
I'll do it, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Best line, Kevin oh Man, I've got one. Okay go,
And I like it because it involves all of us.
But I also like it because we're calling a spade
a spade. Will says, wait, I get the three of
you being on the team, and Puck says, is it
because two of them are Asian and already wears glasses?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
It's very good. Yeah, and also like what a rude
thing for a teacher to say about a student.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I like it. It's true, it's true, but again we'll
say inappropriate. Just Will being well.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I have a couple of favorite lines, but I think
maybe Santana saying, see here's it's going to go down.
Two choices. You stay here and I crack one of
your nuts right or left, that's your choice, or walk
away and live to be a douchebag another day. And
also I have razor blades hitting in my hair, tons
just all up in there. I also like Mercedes you know,
(38:58):
scene about the things she wants. I wish we also
had more zizes and being Mercedes manager, I thought that
was great.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I know, I like, could we bring that back? Could
that keep going? Yeah? Performance MVP. I think I'm going
with Amber.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I think so right, I think so just that even
that song alone, but also every scene she was in.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, I give it to her.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, okay, Jenna, Okay. Should we found a TikTok this week?
Mollotov Catnip is their name on TikTok posted a video
of these three people running in public, all dressed and
identical so Sylvester tracksuits and wigs.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
It's pretty late, very crowded space.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Very crowded public like park, and people are staring at them.
They even my favorite bit is they do the Spider
Man meme. We're all through them are pointing at each other.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Comic con.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, it looks like a comic con.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, amazing, this is awesome. Go on.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
It's beautiful work. It's really really great. I wish more
people did that, just run through public dresses, seal selvester
mm hmmm. I mean, I love it so much. I
watched it several times because it makes me a little uncomfortable,
but also it's Hilaire, so thanks for doing that. Thanks
(40:31):
for tagging us in it. That was great, And next
week is born this way. How exciting.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
You know, the episodes that you and I fear watching
are the ones we end up talking about at length
almost every type.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
What are you getting at, Kevin, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
We like to err a grievances.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, well that's what you really missed.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Thanks for joining us, come back next week. Bye bye.
Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and
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you next time.
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