February 16, 2023 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin
and I heart radio podcast. Okay, we've got Jane Lynch
here for and asked me anything Lightning session. Welcome. I
am buckle up, all right, I mean yeah, she hosts
the weakest link. This is nothing for her. You know,
(00:23):
she's a game show host. Okay, sheet all right, First one,
Kaylee Lemons. How much was improvised? And how much was
in the script? All on the script? All on the script?
Very little, very little improvised. Ian Brennan, what was there
(00:45):
a favorite track suit that you wore on the show. Yeah,
it was navy blue and it had neon pink and
I looked so good that those colors are real good.
I'm really nice and it was shiny. Yeah. Um. Do
you remember Super Basse Yeah yeah yeah, super Base Yeah yeah,
(01:05):
I remember the learnings from it. Oh and I did
I wear the the pink too too outfit. I looked
and the lighting was crazy and Darren Chris did a
thing with me like he was fantastic. Yep, yeah, yeah,
I remember. That's been showing up on TikTok a lot.
(01:25):
I've seen that clip for some reason. Oh yeah, it's everywhere,
because sometimes I feel like it's a Mandela effectory, like
did this happen? Oh, this is a fever dream that
we all had and know what happened? Ye, Jane Lynch
do Nicki Minaj and a Nicki Minaj Wig was incredible
again really And I think it was a Saturday. I
think we shot that on the Saturday. We were wonderful.
(01:49):
Remember that we worked on a Saturday. Saturday. Yeah, we
didn't work on a lot do We didn't work a
lot of saturdays? Did we? Towards? And I like, what
was filming Vogue? Like from Holly be Oh it's the best.
It took forever. Um, it was meticulous. Ryan directed it
(02:10):
directed it. It meant everything to him and to me.
And we actually got a lot of the set pieces
were at Paramount where we shot, so we used a
lot of the original set pieces. They copied the wardrobe
war Lou copied them from the actual Madonna wardrobe and um,
yeah it was fun though, wasn't you guys were in it?
(02:33):
It was just the girl Chris and yeah, yeah, yeah,
we came and watched. We came and watched, but you
guys and you guys did frame for frame to. I
remember like having having pictures up and you guys actually
had he had our monitor, and then he had the
video monitor, the actual video and they they matched the
(02:55):
actual type. It was black and white and they matched
the tones perfectly. Wow, that's so good and it worked.
It was worth it. It was Chris and Amber. That's right.
Do you have a favorite Sue insult or rent that
you remember that you think about every now and then? Yeah,
(03:15):
what do I think about? Oh? Wow, what do I think?
I like the one where I say I've decided I'm
no longer going to carry picture I d people shouldn't
know who I am. I like that and oh, oh,
oh my god. This is one of my favorites where
I say, um, you know, this reminds me of the
couple who bought my house. I assaulted the backyard so
(03:36):
nothing could grow there for a hundred years. Why they
wanted me to pay their closing costs. Yeah, it does,
it does, it does? Yeah, closing. You know when we
were watching this show back for the first generation of
(03:57):
this podcast, I remember think because Trump was president at
the time and there was so much stuff, Sue would
say that, like, I'm pretty sure we had a segment
that was like, did Trump say this or did Sue
say this? Like Trump or Sue? That's great. We were
laughing about it in and then it happened upon her,
you know, became actually it became our national nightmare. That's right, Yeah,
(04:20):
that's right. Yeah, Sue's funny TV not in real life.
Your favorite guest star. Oh god, that so many Oh
my god, um, oh gosh, so sorry. I mean I
loved Carol Burnett, had to work with her a couple
of times. I know, just yeah, oh god, everybody was
(04:46):
so good. Kristin Chenowith knocked it out of the park.
Stephen Totalowski, remember in the first year, he was the
old choir teacher who road, who was in a appropriate
with a boy. Remember that we couldn't do that. Now,
he did quite a few inappropriate things. He was selling
(05:07):
you know, marijuana to the kids, right buck. And he
had a very scary doll collection this isn't and his
tease and his like kimono. It was odd. He was
he sold it, He sold it. Yeah. Yeah, they should
have carried him on. I think gets scored easily and
(05:27):
then he moves on to something else. But whereas I
would be like, oh, this works, keep it and he's like,
we'll do something else. How did you feel get to work,
getting to work with Hitchcock again? Fantastic? Yeah, just the best.
Oh my god, what did we do? We did that scene?
What did what did he? What did we do? It
was the choir director for the Death Player the School
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of the Deaf. Oh my god, just too much. And
he was a writer on our show too. Then he
became a writer. Yeah, you know what did joy to
have her? Someone wanted to know if people are surprised
when they meet you to find that you're actually nice
and nothing like Sue. Do you have that reaction? Do
people have that reaction? I don't think anybody really expects
(06:12):
the person in real life to be what they're like
on television. I think we we we don't we get
the I think for the most part. Yeah, our Sue
and Sue is still happily married. Yes, you know, it
was rough going in the first couple of years, but
they found some peace and they worked very well together.
(06:32):
They're great partners. So funny. That was glad she remembered that, right,
I married myself. Sue and Side you had some pretty
wild storylines towards the act. Oh my god, I did.
Do you remember when I ran for um Congress and
then they kind of dropped the storyline and they wrapped
it up by having me hold a newspaper that I'm
(06:53):
reading that says Sylvester loses. It's like, yeah, we're not
going to write about that anymore. I remember being really
excited about that storyline and then it just sort of
it got lost to something else, which happened. It was
what do they call it, the Island of Lost storylines?
That's funny. Did you take home many track suits? I did.
(07:14):
I don't have any more now, though I took home
about four. I gave them to yeah, and I gave
them to like m Um charity things they would ask
and they would raffle them all. And then I hooked
up with something. Not hooked up, but I communicated with
somebody on Twitter and she said that she was my
(07:34):
height and she weighed about fifty pounds more than I did,
and that she was going to lose that white so
she could fit in the tracks it. I said, you
lose that weight, I'll send you a track suit. So
she sent me before and after a picture she lost it,
and I sent her Oh my gosh, that's awesome, gorgeous store.
Did you take anything from set from your office? I didn't,
(07:58):
did you, guys? Yes? You remember Matt had brought that
weener dog in the choir room. It was like a
porcelain dog, and he brought it from his choir room,
his choir teachers, um like room, classroom, and he put
(08:19):
it in his classroom and then he took it home.
I remember that. And then I took the clock off
the wall because of the I just it made sense
to me because I was like, well, if this would
go up on my wall in my house so it
wouldn't look out of the ordinary. No, yeah, that's an
old school clock. It is pretty fun. Remember the soundproofing material,
(08:42):
the squares, they're very expensive. Darren ripped them down and
put him in his studio. That's right. Was very smart
of him to do that. It is very affendship, to
be honest. Yeah, you were going to say some are
there any songs that you wish you could have sang?
(09:05):
M hmm that there was? Oh I pitched this to Ryan.
Do you remember that song? Is that All there is?
Is that? All there is? My friend? Then let's keep dancing.
It's kind of a book. It's from like the fifties
or the sixties, and I wanted to do it like
a German beer hall kin. Is that all there is?
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I want to be dancing with someone depressed when I
lost Congress. Oh if I won, If I won Congress,
which they didn't have me win, So wouldn't that be
great if I win? And then the camera comes in
kind of like the President's men, real close, and I go, well, now,
what do we do want? I have to go work exactly,
and then and and cut to me, like dancing with
(09:51):
somebody maybe even like um, what's her name, coach beast? Yes, yes,
like dancing with her. I thought that would be so funny. Guys, numbers.
We just watched the episode where you get to do
your swing dancing in preparation for Rod Remington and you
did that big number with Daddie. There's so much it's
(10:14):
really it's fun when you got to actually do musical
stuff with us. That was the hardest part. That was
the dancing stuff. I hated it. Every time I got it,
I was like, and they gave me a lot of dancing,
Yeah they did. It was complicated dancing. Yeah, a lot
of it was really so beyond my skill, and I
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worked so hard. And there was a thing at the
end where I did the ballroom dancing, the Astaire and
um Ginger Rogers thing with Heaven I'm in Heaven and
we shot it in black and white, Matt and I.
It was fun. That's so good. Yeah, it's beautiful. I did.
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I got to do some really fun things. There's been
a lot of questions asking for um, like favorite memory
of working with Naya, you guys got I got to
(11:17):
tell her some hilarious things I called her. Remember when
she had her boobs made bigger in real in real
life and she came in and I was like, um,
I called her boobs? What did I call? Someone out
there knows what I called her something like that. But
then I had this thing where I said to her,
why would someone your age, with a perfect little body
(11:43):
wanted into it? Why would you do that? And it
was kind of James to asking Naya to why why?
But that's what that's what the kids do. And also
what else? Um? Oh, she she ripped me a new
one and pushed me again the wall. Do you remember
that torn? It was after Died Together. It was the
(12:04):
episode of the Corey episode, and she said you were
never nice to him, you never liked him, and that
no one's ever talked to Sue like that. And I
was standing up and she threw me against the wall. Whoa?
And she did? Nya? Threw me against the wall? Yeah? Right,
she had some for sure. There was such inherent, inherent
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goodness and Tenaya and to so much of who you
guys are was in those characters because Ryan smart and
he would see things. He would see the things that
you were, your achilles heels, the things that maybe you
were ashamed of, and the things that made you wonderful,
and he would highlight all of it. Yea, it's it's
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he saw right through us. What about the scene where
was it Diana or was it Nya where you made
them take out their fake boob cutlets and slap themselves
in the face with them? Wasn't that right? Wasn't there
was Heather or Brittany. It was Brittany, and my head
it was Naya, and I don't think it was Diana,
but it was definitely Heather and uh san fantana a
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Brittany sentence exactly exactly, And I slap yourselves in the
face with themselves. And she was also that I want
you to smell your armpits. That is the smell failure
stinking up my office. And she runs out cry. She
runs a crying because you take away her tanning privileges
for the year. Oh yeah, it's so good. I remember
(13:34):
I was taking their uniforms. I was having them sent
to France to be dry clean. And it costs like
a hundred thousand dollars a year. Oh my gosh, let's
oh god. Ian's insane. Ian's absolutely insane. Someone wanted to
know if you think Sue is a hero or a villain.
She's a hero. She's not a villain. She's outwardly a villain.
(13:58):
Um but uh, I mean she can She was mean.
But the great thing about Glee is that no one
really took it to heart. No like I would, you know,
make fun of everybody Asian number one, frankin teen um wheels,
kid in the wheelchair. But you guys will be like,
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but nobody got really got their feelings hurt. So she
was She was benign in that way. And when she
stood up for people, and she would never let it
get too far. She would apologize, she would she would
go to war take you know, take something to the
mat for somebody. Um, she was a defender, a warrior
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who you know, she was flawed. She she went, she went.
She was so protective that she of herself and people
and of her tender heart. That she made some bad
decisions sometimes and she was meaner than she needed to be.
But for the most part, she's a hero. But that's
a great question because she's both. But to me, you know,
I'm never gonna play an out right villain anyway. Who's
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going to play an outright villain? You can't think that way.
The actor has to think, what's what's going on in here?
What's really going on that that I can understand and humanize.
Someone wanted to know what was your favorite nickname for
a character? For everyone? I did. I liked Frank and
Team for Corey because he was so tall and so goofy.
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He didn't fit into his body. You know, it was weird, gangly.
He was gangly, and even watching him walk sometimes it
was like he never really inhabited his body because he
was still so young. You know that maybe as he
got older, but there was a part of him. It's
like this ten year old kid who was five ft
tall and now all of a sudden, he's six ft two.
(15:45):
So I love that I called him Frank and Tea
and yeah, puppies, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of like
a big dope exactly. It's like a big dobermint pinture
or a lab as a puppy. They're kind of big,
you know, they're they're seventy pounds with her like two
(16:07):
years old, but they're like, yeah. I try to think
if there were any other I like, I love that
you never called Emma Emma. You only I think I
can tell you only called her Emma once. Ever, there
was always some other version of that. Yeah, I will
tell you one thing I did improvise. I was talking
to her and I was telling her, what's what in
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the teacher's loaned, and then I looked down. You know,
she always wore like big, like a big bow or
something like that. She had a big bow in the
middle of her blouse. And I said, and that bow
is insane. You know, Jama was just on the show.
She's talking about all of her bows. Yeah. She was
(16:51):
so good. Yeah, and she and Matt would have been
Sir Chuster would have been such a cute little couple.
Do you have a favorite episode or a favorite season.
I think the first season is my favorite. Yeah, yeah, okay,
I think all my favorite shows are probably in the
first season. Yeah. It seems to be the unanimous answer
(17:16):
for whenever we ask people if Ryan Murphy wanted to
do a sus In Vester spinoff, would you do it
in a second? In a hot minute? Alright, should we
(17:37):
fit in like one or two more? Yeah, let's do it. Okay,
I'll pick one. You pick one so we can release Jane.
That's right from this from our grip are typo oh.
Somebody asked, like, what was your reaction to the scene
where Santana yelled and pushed Sue in season five? Okay, good, good, good, Yeah,
they're into it. She played it beautifully. We had a
(18:00):
whole monologue. You know. She was one of those people
who could look at the script in the morning and
she had some monologues like I did, and not only
be off book, but perfect, played it perfect that picture photographers.
I never could understand how she did that. It was
always so impressive. Sharp mind. Do you think your portrayal
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of Sue evolved or changed over the series as the
character became so iconic. I think even when I started,
like season one, I knew there had to be a
reason why she was who she was, Um and why
she was so mean, And that's when I came up with.
I came up with for myself that she had been
(18:44):
bullied in high school and she was getting her revenge
by going back to teach high school. And then they
gave me the down syndrome sister. I think it was
like either the first season, at the beginning of the
second season, and then from there Becky Um became my
best friend in my Luke Tenant in crime and evilness,
evil during and um, so that deepened it for me. Um.
(19:10):
I think her, you know, they always kept her pretty
mean because her, but they gave me more redemptive moments.
They gave me more heroic moments and more courageous moments,
and more honest moments as time went on, like when
my sister died, when Horrid died and um uh, you know,
(19:31):
towards the end, when I was vice president and then
we did that. That was the hardest thing to shoot
that day in the auditorium last It was hard. Yeah. Yeah,
Is there a Glee character that you were? You were
like in high school. Oh my god, that's such a
good question. No, not really. I'm trying to think of
(19:54):
maybe one of the boys, because the girls aren't no,
I know, m hm m hmm. How about you guys. Yeah,
I don't know what I would. I mean, it's Rachel. Yeah,
really you were and musical, very driven, very type a
(20:17):
very known like made myself known in school. Yeah, you know,
the popular girl who did everything and did everything right. Good. Yeah,
that's right. And I flew under the radar um I
wanted and I was like the class but I really
kept myself safe. You know. I was everybody's friend, but
(20:38):
not their best friend exactly. And a lot of it
for me was like, yeah, I belonged to a bunch
of them, like I was with the popular girls, and
then I was with like the kind of the choir
nerds and the theater nerds. But a lot of it,
too was that I knew I was coming to the
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uh awareness that I was gay. I learned what it
was when I was in high school, and I was like,
oh my god, I think I have that. And I
didn't know anybody else. I had one friend and he
was my best friend, Chris, and he was like completely
open with himself. Certainly not in our little high school.
But yeah, he caught the gay and now what happens.
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Sometimes it happens sometimes. All right, well, Jane, we're gonna
let you go. Thank you a lot. It's my pleasure.
Thank you for doing this. I'm glad you're doing this
show too. It's really great. Thanks. Well, we love you, yeah,
I do. Two guys love you. Thanks for writing in
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all of your questions. We um we'll hopefully have her
back and ask more. But you guys wrote in, and
we had too many questions to ask, which is always
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And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin
and I heart radio podcast. Okay, we've got Jane Lynch
here for and asked me anything Lightning session. Welcome. I
am buckle up, all right, I mean yeah, she hosts
the weakest link. This is nothing for her. You know,
(00:23):
she's a game show host. Okay, sheet all right, First one,
Kaylee Lemons. How much was improvised? And how much was
in the script? All on the script? All on the script?
Very little, very little improvised. Ian Brennan, what was there
(00:45):
a favorite track suit that you wore on the show. Yeah,
it was navy blue and it had neon pink and
I looked so good that those colors are real good.
I'm really nice and it was shiny. Yeah. Um. Do
you remember Super Basse Yeah yeah yeah, super Base Yeah yeah,
(01:05):
I remember the learnings from it. Oh and I did
I wear the the pink too too outfit. I looked
and the lighting was crazy and Darren Chris did a
thing with me like he was fantastic. Yep, yeah, yeah,
I remember. That's been showing up on TikTok a lot.
(01:25):
I've seen that clip for some reason. Oh yeah, it's everywhere,
because sometimes I feel like it's a Mandela effectory, like
did this happen? Oh, this is a fever dream that
we all had and know what happened? Ye, Jane Lynch
do Nicki Minaj and a Nicki Minaj Wig was incredible
again really And I think it was a Saturday. I
think we shot that on the Saturday. We were wonderful.
(01:49):
Remember that we worked on a Saturday. Saturday. Yeah, we
didn't work on a lot do We didn't work a
lot of saturdays? Did we? Towards? And I like, what
was filming Vogue? Like from Holly be Oh it's the best.
It took forever. Um, it was meticulous. Ryan directed it
(02:10):
directed it. It meant everything to him and to me.
And we actually got a lot of the set pieces
were at Paramount where we shot, so we used a
lot of the original set pieces. They copied the wardrobe
war Lou copied them from the actual Madonna wardrobe and um,
yeah it was fun though, wasn't you guys were in it?
(02:33):
It was just the girl Chris and yeah, yeah, yeah,
we came and watched. We came and watched, but you
guys and you guys did frame for frame to. I
remember like having having pictures up and you guys actually
had he had our monitor, and then he had the
video monitor, the actual video and they they matched the
(02:55):
actual type. It was black and white and they matched
the tones perfectly. Wow, that's so good and it worked.
It was worth it. It was Chris and Amber. That's right.
Do you have a favorite Sue insult or rent that
you remember that you think about every now and then? Yeah,
(03:15):
what do I think about? Oh? Wow, what do I think?
I like the one where I say I've decided I'm
no longer going to carry picture I d people shouldn't
know who I am. I like that and oh, oh,
oh my god. This is one of my favorites where
I say, um, you know, this reminds me of the
couple who bought my house. I assaulted the backyard so
(03:36):
nothing could grow there for a hundred years. Why they
wanted me to pay their closing costs. Yeah, it does,
it does, it does? Yeah, closing. You know when we
were watching this show back for the first generation of
(03:57):
this podcast, I remember think because Trump was president at
the time and there was so much stuff, Sue would
say that, like, I'm pretty sure we had a segment
that was like, did Trump say this or did Sue
say this? Like Trump or Sue? That's great. We were
laughing about it in and then it happened upon her,
you know, became actually it became our national nightmare. That's right, Yeah,
(04:20):
that's right. Yeah, Sue's funny TV not in real life.
Your favorite guest star. Oh god, that so many Oh
my god, um, oh gosh, so sorry. I mean I
loved Carol Burnett, had to work with her a couple
of times. I know, just yeah, oh god, everybody was
(04:46):
so good. Kristin Chenowith knocked it out of the park.
Stephen Totalowski, remember in the first year, he was the
old choir teacher who road, who was in a appropriate
with a boy. Remember that we couldn't do that. Now,
he did quite a few inappropriate things. He was selling
(05:07):
you know, marijuana to the kids, right buck. And he
had a very scary doll collection this isn't and his
tease and his like kimono. It was odd. He was
he sold it, He sold it. Yeah. Yeah, they should
have carried him on. I think gets scored easily and
(05:27):
then he moves on to something else. But whereas I
would be like, oh, this works, keep it and he's like,
we'll do something else. How did you feel get to work,
getting to work with Hitchcock again? Fantastic? Yeah, just the best.
Oh my god, what did we do? We did that scene?
What did what did he? What did we do? It
was the choir director for the Death Player the School
(05:51):
of the Deaf. Oh my god, just too much. And
he was a writer on our show too. Then he
became a writer. Yeah, you know what did joy to
have her? Someone wanted to know if people are surprised
when they meet you to find that you're actually nice
and nothing like Sue. Do you have that reaction? Do
people have that reaction? I don't think anybody really expects
(06:12):
the person in real life to be what they're like
on television. I think we we we don't we get
the I think for the most part. Yeah, our Sue
and Sue is still happily married. Yes, you know, it
was rough going in the first couple of years, but
they found some peace and they worked very well together.
(06:32):
They're great partners. So funny. That was glad she remembered that, right,
I married myself. Sue and Side you had some pretty
wild storylines towards the act. Oh my god, I did.
Do you remember when I ran for um Congress and
then they kind of dropped the storyline and they wrapped
it up by having me hold a newspaper that I'm
(06:53):
reading that says Sylvester loses. It's like, yeah, we're not
going to write about that anymore. I remember being really
excited about that storyline and then it just sort of
it got lost to something else, which happened. It was
what do they call it, the Island of Lost storylines?
That's funny. Did you take home many track suits? I did.
(07:14):
I don't have any more now, though I took home
about four. I gave them to yeah, and I gave
them to like m Um charity things they would ask
and they would raffle them all. And then I hooked
up with something. Not hooked up, but I communicated with
somebody on Twitter and she said that she was my
(07:34):
height and she weighed about fifty pounds more than I did,
and that she was going to lose that white so
she could fit in the tracks it. I said, you
lose that weight, I'll send you a track suit. So
she sent me before and after a picture she lost it,
and I sent her Oh my gosh, that's awesome, gorgeous store.
Did you take anything from set from your office? I didn't,
(07:58):
did you, guys? Yes? You remember Matt had brought that
weener dog in the choir room. It was like a
porcelain dog, and he brought it from his choir room,
his choir teachers, um like room, classroom, and he put
(08:19):
it in his classroom and then he took it home.
I remember that. And then I took the clock off
the wall because of the I just it made sense
to me because I was like, well, if this would
go up on my wall in my house so it
wouldn't look out of the ordinary. No, yeah, that's an
old school clock. It is pretty fun. Remember the soundproofing material,
(08:42):
the squares, they're very expensive. Darren ripped them down and
put him in his studio. That's right. Was very smart
of him to do that. It is very affendship, to
be honest. Yeah, you were going to say some are
there any songs that you wish you could have sang?
(09:05):
M hmm that there was? Oh I pitched this to Ryan.
Do you remember that song? Is that All there is?
Is that? All there is? My friend? Then let's keep dancing.
It's kind of a book. It's from like the fifties
or the sixties, and I wanted to do it like
a German beer hall kin. Is that all there is?
(09:30):
I want to be dancing with someone depressed when I
lost Congress. Oh if I won, If I won Congress,
which they didn't have me win, So wouldn't that be
great if I win? And then the camera comes in
kind of like the President's men, real close, and I go, well, now,
what do we do want? I have to go work exactly,
and then and and cut to me, like dancing with
(09:51):
somebody maybe even like um, what's her name, coach beast? Yes, yes,
like dancing with her. I thought that would be so funny. Guys, numbers.
We just watched the episode where you get to do
your swing dancing in preparation for Rod Remington and you
did that big number with Daddie. There's so much it's
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really it's fun when you got to actually do musical
stuff with us. That was the hardest part. That was
the dancing stuff. I hated it. Every time I got it,
I was like, and they gave me a lot of dancing,
Yeah they did. It was complicated dancing. Yeah, a lot
of it was really so beyond my skill, and I
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worked so hard. And there was a thing at the
end where I did the ballroom dancing, the Astaire and
um Ginger Rogers thing with Heaven I'm in Heaven and
we shot it in black and white, Matt and I.
It was fun. That's so good. Yeah, it's beautiful. I did.
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I got to do some really fun things. There's been
a lot of questions asking for um, like favorite memory
of working with Naya, you guys got I got to
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tell her some hilarious things I called her. Remember when
she had her boobs made bigger in real in real
life and she came in and I was like, um,
I called her boobs? What did I call? Someone out
there knows what I called her something like that. But
then I had this thing where I said to her,
why would someone your age, with a perfect little body
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wanted into it? Why would you do that? And it
was kind of James to asking Naya to why why?
But that's what that's what the kids do. And also
what else? Um? Oh, she she ripped me a new
one and pushed me again the wall. Do you remember
that torn? It was after Died Together. It was the
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episode of the Corey episode, and she said you were
never nice to him, you never liked him, and that
no one's ever talked to Sue like that. And I
was standing up and she threw me against the wall. Whoa?
And she did? Nya? Threw me against the wall? Yeah? Right,
she had some for sure. There was such inherent, inherent
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goodness and Tenaya and to so much of who you
guys are was in those characters because Ryan smart and
he would see things. He would see the things that
you were, your achilles heels, the things that maybe you
were ashamed of, and the things that made you wonderful,
and he would highlight all of it. Yea, it's it's
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he saw right through us. What about the scene where
was it Diana or was it Nya where you made
them take out their fake boob cutlets and slap themselves
in the face with them? Wasn't that right? Wasn't there
was Heather or Brittany. It was Brittany, and my head
it was Naya, and I don't think it was Diana,
but it was definitely Heather and uh san fantana a
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Brittany sentence exactly exactly, And I slap yourselves in the
face with themselves. And she was also that I want
you to smell your armpits. That is the smell failure
stinking up my office. And she runs out cry. She
runs a crying because you take away her tanning privileges
for the year. Oh yeah, it's so good. I remember
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I was taking their uniforms. I was having them sent
to France to be dry clean. And it costs like
a hundred thousand dollars a year. Oh my gosh, let's
oh god. Ian's insane. Ian's absolutely insane. Someone wanted to
know if you think Sue is a hero or a villain.
She's a hero. She's not a villain. She's outwardly a villain.
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Um but uh, I mean she can She was mean.
But the great thing about Glee is that no one
really took it to heart. No like I would, you know,
make fun of everybody Asian number one, frankin teen um wheels,
kid in the wheelchair. But you guys will be like,
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but nobody got really got their feelings hurt. So she
was She was benign in that way. And when she
stood up for people, and she would never let it
get too far. She would apologize, she would she would
go to war take you know, take something to the
mat for somebody. Um, she was a defender, a warrior
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who you know, she was flawed. She she went, she went.
She was so protective that she of herself and people
and of her tender heart. That she made some bad
decisions sometimes and she was meaner than she needed to be.
But for the most part, she's a hero. But that's
a great question because she's both. But to me, you know,
I'm never gonna play an out right villain anyway. Who's
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going to play an outright villain? You can't think that way.
The actor has to think, what's what's going on in here?
What's really going on that that I can understand and humanize.
Someone wanted to know what was your favorite nickname for
a character? For everyone? I did. I liked Frank and
Team for Corey because he was so tall and so goofy.
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He didn't fit into his body. You know, it was weird, gangly.
He was gangly, and even watching him walk sometimes it
was like he never really inhabited his body because he
was still so young. You know that maybe as he
got older, but there was a part of him. It's
like this ten year old kid who was five ft
tall and now all of a sudden, he's six ft two.
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So I love that I called him Frank and Tea
and yeah, puppies, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of like
a big dope exactly. It's like a big dobermint pinture
or a lab as a puppy. They're kind of big,
you know, they're they're seventy pounds with her like two
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years old, but they're like, yeah. I try to think
if there were any other I like, I love that
you never called Emma Emma. You only I think I
can tell you only called her Emma once. Ever, there
was always some other version of that. Yeah, I will
tell you one thing I did improvise. I was talking
to her and I was telling her, what's what in
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the teacher's loaned, and then I looked down. You know,
she always wore like big, like a big bow or
something like that. She had a big bow in the
middle of her blouse. And I said, and that bow
is insane. You know, Jama was just on the show.
She's talking about all of her bows. Yeah. She was
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so good. Yeah, and she and Matt would have been
Sir Chuster would have been such a cute little couple.
Do you have a favorite episode or a favorite season.
I think the first season is my favorite. Yeah, yeah, okay,
I think all my favorite shows are probably in the
first season. Yeah. It seems to be the unanimous answer
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for whenever we ask people if Ryan Murphy wanted to
do a sus In Vester spinoff, would you do it
in a second? In a hot minute? Alright, should we
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fit in like one or two more? Yeah, let's do it. Okay,
I'll pick one. You pick one so we can release Jane.
That's right from this from our grip are typo oh.
Somebody asked, like, what was your reaction to the scene
where Santana yelled and pushed Sue in season five? Okay, good, good, good, Yeah,
they're into it. She played it beautifully. We had a
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whole monologue. You know. She was one of those people
who could look at the script in the morning and
she had some monologues like I did, and not only
be off book, but perfect, played it perfect that picture photographers.
I never could understand how she did that. It was
always so impressive. Sharp mind. Do you think your portrayal
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of Sue evolved or changed over the series as the
character became so iconic. I think even when I started,
like season one, I knew there had to be a
reason why she was who she was, Um and why
she was so mean, And that's when I came up with.
I came up with for myself that she had been
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bullied in high school and she was getting her revenge
by going back to teach high school. And then they
gave me the down syndrome sister. I think it was
like either the first season, at the beginning of the
second season, and then from there Becky Um became my
best friend in my Luke Tenant in crime and evilness,
evil during and um, so that deepened it for me. Um.
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I think her, you know, they always kept her pretty
mean because her, but they gave me more redemptive moments.
They gave me more heroic moments and more courageous moments,
and more honest moments as time went on, like when
my sister died, when Horrid died and um uh, you know,
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towards the end, when I was vice president and then
we did that. That was the hardest thing to shoot
that day in the auditorium last It was hard. Yeah. Yeah,
Is there a Glee character that you were? You were
like in high school. Oh my god, that's such a
good question. No, not really. I'm trying to think of
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maybe one of the boys, because the girls aren't no,
I know, m hm m hmm. How about you guys. Yeah,
I don't know what I would. I mean, it's Rachel. Yeah,
really you were and musical, very driven, very type a
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very known like made myself known in school. Yeah, you know,
the popular girl who did everything and did everything right. Good. Yeah,
that's right. And I flew under the radar um I
wanted and I was like the class but I really
kept myself safe. You know. I was everybody's friend, but
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not their best friend exactly. And a lot of it
for me was like, yeah, I belonged to a bunch
of them, like I was with the popular girls, and
then I was with like the kind of the choir
nerds and the theater nerds. But a lot of it,
too was that I knew I was coming to the
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uh awareness that I was gay. I learned what it
was when I was in high school, and I was like,
oh my god, I think I have that. And I
didn't know anybody else. I had one friend and he
was my best friend, Chris, and he was like completely
open with himself. Certainly not in our little high school.
But yeah, he caught the gay and now what happens.
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Sometimes it happens sometimes. All right, well, Jane, we're gonna
let you go. Thank you a lot. It's my pleasure.
Thank you for doing this. I'm glad you're doing this
show too. It's really great. Thanks. Well, we love you, yeah,
I do. Two guys love you. Thanks for writing in
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all of your questions. We um we'll hopefully have her
back and ask more. But you guys wrote in, and
we had too many questions to ask, which is always
a good problem. So thank you so much, and thanks
for listening. Thanks for joining us, and that's what you
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