September 4, 2023 • 48 mins
Rumors are swirling but this much is true … Kevin and Jenna love this episode!! It's Glee's first time featuring songs from just one album - "Rumours" from Fleetwood Mac! There's so much to discuss, like how the show got the rights to the album in just 12 hours, the pressure Kevin felt about his solo, and the inside joke that made it into the episode!Plus, grab your tissues because there are lots of tears … some from laughter and some from Naya’s incredible performance of "Songbird."**We stand in solidarity with our union, SAG-AFTRA, during the strike. For more information, go to SAGAFTRAStrike.org.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to And that's what you're reading in this podcast.
It is rumor time. I'm dead of Rumersgarden wrong rumor. Yeah,
so many rumors flying around, so many rumors like you
being on steroids.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh my god, what happened to you guys? What happened
to media literacy? Did it exist?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No, that's I was going to say, what happened?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It never was?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Never was? Okay, Welcome everybody, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Hi, Kevin, Hi, Jenna.
This is a fun episode because this is a special episode.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
All one album, the first time we've done that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It is a perfect album, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh no, I have nothing bad to say about this album.
I am Christine McVie, who passed away fairly recently. I
didn't realize she wrote most of this album. And she's
sort of becoming like a George Harrison figure to me
that the older I get, I sort of gravitate towards
(01:24):
her songs and how because I was watching Naya sing
songbirds who wrote this? And it was her? And I
think we know Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham. But yeah, damn,
she could write the shit out of a song. Certainly.
(01:46):
She wrote five songs on this.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Album, Wow, which one she.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Wrote, Don't Stop? She wrote Songbird, She co wrote The
Chain with all of Fleetwood. She wrote you Make Love
and Fun and wrote oh Daddy, Wow, what's crazy is too?
I loved that sort of. One of the lessons in
this episode is that they were all cleved. Mack was
not getting along and they wrote sort of separately or
(02:13):
when they did come together, it was only about music
and a lot of these songs are just solo rights.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
There's only one song that has It's the Chain that
has everybody on it. Everything else was either Lindsey Buckingham,
Steve Nicks or Christine McVie by themselves. Yeah, they were writing,
They had a lot of feelings and they were writing
this how crazy. But love that. This is the first
(02:43):
you know all album episode that we did because it
deserves it. It's one of the best selling, if not
the best selling album of all time.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Geez yeah, I mean or that his hits is the best.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
That's the Eagles?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Can you keep us now? As a kid, I was
obsessed with these sorts of charts and lists and what's
the best selling single and album? And still are still yes?
So Rumors aired on May thir twenty eleven. It was
season two episode nineteen.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh my god, my heart just started to flutter.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We were almost done with season two.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's crazy, it really is, okay. The number one song
was et Still from by Katy Perry featuring I'm just
gonna say Katy Perry. The number one movie was Fast five.
Still haven't seen any of.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Those, that's crazy. They were already on five twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
The tenth can seem fast and furious, any of them?
Because I really love these, like very simple action movies.
Not simple. Let me rephrase that. I really love these.
It's simple, these blockbuster action films, and so I just
I feel like there's too many, Like I don't even
(04:04):
know where to start.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I think you can just start anywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I've only seen the second one, Too Fast, too Furious,
and I say, and you can. That's good enough for me, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Glee News This week. On May second, Diana, Lee and
Matt went to the met Gala for the first time
in New York City and the theme was McQueen, Savage,
Beauty Woo.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And on May fourth, the cast attended special screening Q
and a panel at the Television Academy at Paramount Studios.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Oh my goodness, I only remembered these events based on
what I was wearing because there were so many of them.
So if I see a picture this one, okay, okay,
So I was wearing like a like an orange dress.
I think we were coming off of So. I think
we had all been working all day and then just
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changed into our outfits from one.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yes, that sounds right.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
In our trailers because we all are very tired.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Didn't We always look tired, some days more tired than others,
but we were still young. So this episode, as Kevin said,
is the first episode that is centered around an album,
a singular album, and it was directed by Tim Hunter,
who I think this is his one and only if
(05:33):
I'm sweet Hunter christ and CHOHn was back as abral Roads.
She's back and tell me about.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The songs in this episode Kevin Wow, stacked dreams, never
going back again, Songbird, I don't want to know, go
your own way, don't stop.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Then there's a little aast risk, you know, nice to
meet you have I Slept with You now, which is
not part of Rumors.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's very funny though it is.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And then an honorable mention shout out to the chain
that's playing in the background throughout a lot of the episode.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I love that too.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
There's some great fun facts as well.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay, tell me some.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Fleetwood Macs album Rumors re entered the Billboard two hundred
chart at number eleven the week after this episode air.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I mean, look, we can take a little bit of
credit for that, but also like it stands on it.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Oh yeah, and I think it has just gotten better
with age too, totally. It's just become cooler and cooler.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
We listened to it all the time now and has
heard it quite a few times. What else happened? What
other fun facts?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
At Paileyfest, Ryan Murphy revealed Stevien Next visiting the set
for Landside inspired them to choose Rumors as their single
album tribute episode. That was a quick turnaround. You see
how quickly they have to come up with these things.
In the turnaround, we just did land Signs.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Ryan said. We can get Stevie NICKX on the phone
now and we can get Lindsay Buckingham who has kids,
who's like, oh my god, I'd love that. So twelve
hours later, you get the rights to rumors.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh crazy, I've just got chills. Twelve hours you get
the rights to.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Room like what Stevie Nicks on Speed Dial. Okay, so
apparent Remember we asked about Fondu for two. Yes, where
it came from? Yes, So apparently it did come from
a Glee van Teresa, who went to the tour in
twenty ten and had a letter delivered to Corey that
(07:37):
mentioned she was writing from an internet program, a YouTube
show called Fondu for two. Heather admitted the idea came
from a letter in the show later, since Teresa an
autograph copy of the script, an autograph cast picture, and thanks.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I don't think I knew that either. Wow. You know what?
I vaguely remember this, Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I did, Ron Burgundy. I'm just reading things.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I know I remember this. Yes, yes, yes, okay, Oh
my gosh, this is that's really funny because it's it's
it is. One of my favorite things about the show
is Fondue for two.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I enjoyed Fondue for two now a lot you didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Like Fondu for two back in the day.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, I I was confused by it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I was very confused by it. Now they didn't like it.
I was like, is this the same show? Well, but
I don't know why. That's what we do so much
crazy shit? Why was that?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
The thing was like, hmmm, I kind of agree with you.
It felt dated, Like the way it was shot felt
like a seventies like or eight like I don't know,
eighties like Nickelodeon show like There's six Plains at All
or something like that. I don't know. It just felt
different than what we were doing. And like the style
(08:56):
and the quality of the way it was shot. I
think also visually changed my way of seeing it. And
you're right, I enjoy it much more now. But it's
so funny. It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I do have to say, though, to your note about
how it was filmed, I feel like Tim Hunter filmed
this very sematically. Cinematically. It felt more like a little movie.
It didn't feel so TV to me.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah. I had a lot of very Yeah, no, you're
You're totally right, and there are really a lot of
beautiful shots. So Jenna, what happens in this episode. Okay,
break it down for it, break it down. Okay, So
Sue Sue.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm sorry. I couldn't say cinematic and you didn't say anything,
and you mess up one word.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
There's this blooper from Glee that I sue Sue has
school spirit or something like that, and it reminded me
of that. It brought me back to my lips started
to get all tangled.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So soon I thought bloopers didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
No, no, there doesn't exist. Sense, I'm friends with a
lot of people who worked in the editing room.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Okay, I caught you. Jenna's got something in the fault.
I feel this is she's covering her face. Now, Jenna,
do you have bloopers? You're gonna get hacked so quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Then don't don't bring it. I'm crying.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Wow. Okay, hmm, don't worry. I'm gonna have anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
You're gonna dig out with me.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm coming over suits. Jen is actually crying. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So Sue revives the Muckraker, which is the school newspaper.
It's very trumpy and the way that this is all approached. Okay,
So Sue decides to print a few inflammatory blind items,
very anonymous, very gossipy, very page six ish. The Glee
(11:34):
club gains a new respect for Sam when they discover
this big secret at the end of the episode about
his life. And meanwhile, I Were Roads returns to Lama
and tries to convince Will to hit the road with
her a Broadway and leave McKinley behind. All while these
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rumors are being thread and intertwined throughout the.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Episode what if Trump She's a really big Glee fan?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Gross and then Stopian universe Kevin. Whatever Sue does, I
can do better? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So okay, rumors tidally episode how do we get into rumors?
Sue brings back to the school newspaper to stop the glee
club with the help of Terry. She's back April Unknowingly.
This scene at the line of Bean where Sue stresses
David Bowie and then very quickly is Anne Colter is
(12:40):
one of the wildest.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It's getting really wild now.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And I love this is her being incognito.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And asking her moke up powder.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
By the way, since Terry Shooter has gotten a divorce,
her face beats. This is looking great.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
She's painted, She's single and fancy free Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, she wants her apartment back. I don't know how
she's going to get that back, but I don't either.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But Terry has an idea that she's going to get
They should get Will out of the glee club instead
of destroying him from the inside. And Sue has this.
He's talking about the Muckbreaker, and she's saying that she's
no longer concerned with facts fact checking in the integrity
effects the muckreaker motto if I heard it's probably true
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or something sounds familiar. And the newspaper causes chaos because
there are some items about it reminds me of like
Do moy in our day and age of like the
Secret Keeper, Oh totally, or the Gossip Tellers. And this
(13:48):
is about Quinn Sam having a secret affair because they're
meeting up at a motel and about Santana playing for
the other team, and it causes k chaos within Lukely Club.
And then Will tells April when she returns because she
needs to borrow her auditorium that this all sounds like
(14:10):
Fleetwood Mac. So this inspires Will's lesson which I'm I'm
noticing a trend, a pattern of Will feeling inspired on
the day, So Will's inspired by the Rumors album Fleetwood
(14:30):
Max Rumors album. That that's gonna be the lesson plan
for the week.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I mean it's very also Stevie Nick's being on set
and Ryan being inspired to the Rumors episode.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I do think it's wild that Brittany just outed. I mean,
giving her the benefit of the doubt. Yes, Brittany does
some questionable things, but she doesn't no better. But her
outing her on Fondu for two was pretty wild. How
is it filming Fondue for two? Okay, you're looking into
(15:06):
the camera.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It was really fun. It was really fun, really really
fun to do amber with the fund with the fondue
being really hot, was really funny.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I felt very real it was.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There was all like very off the cuff, very ridiculous. Gosh,
this is so funny. Lord Tubbington I think he was
in this one. I think it was this one. Maybe
we come do we come back for Fundu for two?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yes, there's a lot more fun Okay, no, but I mean,
does teena come back funny?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Probably because in my memory and I think it was
this one, Lord Tummington would not stay still and Lord
Tubbington kept running out of the room. Yeah, and so
we had to keep doing it because Lord Tummington wouldn't
do his job.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Remember you guys telling us about.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I wouldn't hit his mark. But sweet Lord Tuvington, I
don't remember the cat's real name. It's a cat. It's
not even a dog that's like really trainable. It's a cat.
And Lord Tumington did not want to be on set
that day, so kitty cat get running away. But we
love Lord Tomington, Lord Timings. It's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You guys were hilarious.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's very funny. It's it's very it feels very us if.
It also feels like very like uh blaming on the alcohol.
Me and Amber laughing drunkenly, like fake acting drunkenly together.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You guys on a new set, a new setup, and
love it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We love it anyway. I'm glad that it opened the episode.
Oh no, not did it open up? No no, no, it
didn't open the episode. It felt like it opened.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I do get why people also wanted like a spin
off of this. Oh it did open the episode.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Right, Okay, I'm not crazy, Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
But that's not why.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, because I have Bluebirds anyways, saying oh, yes, spin off,
I get it now, Yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I wanted to see more of it. I wanted Brittany's
take on everything.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Like the Biggest Gossips.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I think that also would be a funny hm hmmm
mm hmm, it's just as funny.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So Jenna and I have the zoomis.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Who's saying it today? Okay, okay, I'm crying and I
don't know why, guys strike, I'm still crying from Kevin
outing me. All right, So then Brittany is Brittany gets
used by Sue Faster to try and get answers for
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Girls Are Inspired.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
She seems very into it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, gossip for the newspaper for mister Shue.
And it's trying. She's trying to be salacious but she
doesn't even realize it. But she's also trying to plant
the seed in Will's head that he wants to go
to the Broadway.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I love that it took to question three for Will
to say this is inappropriate it.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
But but hew, there's some delivery on like we'll see
some coach Susan, I can say anything, right, let's talk
about Will.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And in April don't you just love when you see
that face come on to the screen?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
What a joy? I really wish we had more April
Roads in the whole series.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It feels like she's always there, it does.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Is that just because she meant a lot to ask
off screen?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah? Probably the first guest star.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
How good is Dreams? Though?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's so good? It's so good, it's so good? Can
they just sing the whole Rumors album?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I know they're so good? I this fun tract. This
was the second single off the album. In real life,
you hear.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
This and you're like, oh, this was like number one
on my cocktail list, like a playlist for uh my wife.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
This is one of those songs that also has just
gotten bigger with time. Mm hmmm, where like this wasn't
something we were listening to in high school, but high
school students now know this song?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah yeah. And then April decides that she's going to
well when her all white Products of the Wiz didn't
work out shocking huzzah. She she decides she's going to
write her own musical based on her real feelings, and
Will is kind of helping guide that, and they end
(20:14):
up performing this wild number nice to meet you. Have
I slept with you? This reminds me of like my headband,
where like she can't quite find her her groove, her
songwriting groove. But the number is beautifully sung. I don't
care what the word said. I could listen to christ
and Channhalth all day and.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
There's a full orchestra on stage.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
They have beautiful It felt like we were watching like
like them at the Boston you know, Pops or Yes.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Emma walks in and I was like, oh no, please, guys,
don't kiss, don't make something. Luckily that didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But Emma Will then encouraged Will to actually follow his dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Dreams, and she's taken her medicine and didn't individually wipe
off each great so she's making strides. She is making strides.
Can we just talk about the little girls Kiky and
April and Sue and Terror having.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I feel like this was also around the time where
in La it became like really cool to eat your
placenta after you give birth, and that's probably where the
writers got that.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Absolutely I did.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Eat my placenta, by the way, Okay, I love that
for you. The Kiki is funny. You just don't see
those women in a room together ever. But that's you know,
I'm a sucker for mixing up the groups always. But
the rumor mel works and April's like, wait, well that's
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not true. This isn't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It's like, well, we'll just put it out there and
then it will. So the Glee Club sees it and
sees that Will is leaving with April to help over
with the show. But he says he has a lot
of dreams and one of them is getting the Glee
Club to Nationals. After he has that emotional opening with
Emma where he starts to sort of cry in the
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teacher's lounge.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That also reminded me of the Pilot a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, it was sweet. I think it's sweet.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's sweet, okay. And then and then we've got a
couple of other things going on within the Muckraker rumor mill.
Sam and Quinn are apparently having an affair according to
the muckraker, and Finn, who's dating Quit at the time,
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and so Rachel and Finn to a stake out at
the motel outside the motel taking photos and Finn is
sure that they're having an affair, but they discover that
Kurt is walking out of the hotel with Sam bisexual representation.
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I'm kidding, and people they are now think Rachel is
thinking he's cheating. I'm blame. So it's all these cheaters.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Everybody's cheating, everybody's rumoring. I also liked this. This was fun,
inappropriate for the kids to be doing this, but also
something kids would do. This is also at the same time,
Jbi is taking pictures of Rachel and Finn together, taking
pictures of Kurt and Sam together.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You just think that's inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Well, yeah, like sort of stalking someone like that is inappropriate,
but also in high school, it's some shit you would do,
you know, totally.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, it's a little adult like, but not really.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's also just fun. This storyline ends up being comedy
and turning into something really meaningful and real at the end.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes, So there's a lot of rumors that Sam is
gay and Quinn's like, he's not gay, but she can't
really reveal what's going on because she knows the truth.
She just tells Finn like, you got to trust me.
He's like, how can I trust you when you're not
telling me anything, you know, not sharing with me. And
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then Rachel sees Sam wearing one of kurch jackets. She's
just hilarious, which is very hot, and Kurt deflex by
questioning the question by saying that Fleetwood Mac only spoke
about the music when making rumors, and they so that
they should be only focusing on nationals.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Side note, can we speaking of new combos? Can we
talk about Rachel and Sam having that little combo episode
about prom? So we're bringing up prom because that's happening
next episode. And then gives him the chapstick and at
the end he's said, thanks for the lip chap And
I made it into that. So that's like what we
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used to.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Say lip chat. Did we get lip chat from that
or did they take that from us?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I think they took that from us. I feel pretty
confident that Corey.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
He took that from us or stuck that in there.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I mean most of Buele, one of the makeup artists,
she used to say that all the time too.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh maybe it was a bule thing.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I think it was a mule thing.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, Okay, Well, we love when our little jokes make
it in. We're a little sayings and things like the mouths.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I think we got at one point about fitting them
in very quickly because you wouldn't even notice.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And he also wasn't scared to like mess with people
like Yeah, I was like a rule follower. I'd be like,
should get the lines exactly right? Okay, he got away
with it with anything because he's just so cute.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Pretty privilege is real, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So they do another stakeout at the motel and racheline
and see Quinn coming out and then hugging with Sam
and so we are sure, we are sure that they're
having an affair now, and that's when Finn and Quinn
have that little trust conversation and then they sing I
(26:18):
Don't want to Know in the choir room.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Also a very good version, Yeah, very good version.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I Don't want to Know is one of the songs
I don't Know as well from that album, do you
know what I mean? Yeah, I just like one of
the ones I don't listen to as as often as
some of the others.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I think us doing it made me listen to it more. Yeah,
because it's a great song and it's hilarious how they
perform it together.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
They're very good together.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
They are. It's actually nice to see them back together.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And it's nice to see Diana get to do some
more comedy. Actually, like herself, is always very loaded with drama.
It's true, she got pregnant very early, you know, always crying, yeah,
poor thing.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And Rachel performs go your Own Way, and she's clearly
with no qualms about it, serenading Finn in this number.
Rachel's wild, Rachel's off the hook or off off not
that's not off the chain. No, that's not right either.
(27:33):
Rachel is off her rocker right now, there you go,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Now, this weird thing happens with the whole Sam thing
that felt really inappropriate, but again very high school, where
everyone piling on about what he was doing and he's
not saying anything totally and everybody's jumping in on everybody,
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and and then he has like this really serious confession.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
That he's very high school though.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, and then Will's just sort of there, like guys,
don't do it. Sam's been living in the motel because
his dad lost his job, so they've lost their house
and the family's not out living in the hotel, and
Kurt has been bringing Sam close and Quinn has been
helping Sam babysit his siblings, and so Rachel and Finn
(28:31):
go back over there to sort of apologize and to
help out. And it's very sweet. You meet his little
siblings and they bring him a guitar. Fenn brings clothes
and they realize, you know, like they had to sell
their possessions. Everything fits in this one motel room. And
his parents are out in the pavement trying to find
(28:52):
work and they can't and they mentioned the recession, which
if that was really interesting because I don't know, I
think this is the first time it's mentioned.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh definitely.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's like, man, not an issue goes unaddressed, ugly right even,
But what a perfect character to I know.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I really love this storyline because it's just really honest
and raw, and for for cord to do it, it's
really sweet.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh Cordy crying.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I know. And Cordy has a big family too, so
like just like it feels like he was able to
like pull from like a really honest place for this,
for this. And yeah, he's also really good with kids
and he's also a dog whisper, so I believed him
with those with his little sisters is he.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
A dog whisper.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, he like pick his bear up, and Bear like
melts into his arms and doesn't move. It's really strange.
Always from the time Bear was like a tiny puppy
to like a couple of days ago, he'll just like
pick Bear up and like Bear will just like Okay, Yeah,
it's really funny. Did you talk about the guitar? Did
(30:04):
you mention the guitar? Did I miss that?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I did?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I did? Okay, okay, okay, But but I didn't talk
about how much do they emphasize it, like they need
him to stay, They need him, the glee club needs him,
He needs the music. Yeah, Because if there's one thing
that Rachel's going to talk sincerely about, it's about understanding
the love of music and how music helps the people
who love it. Right, it's a mutually beneficial relationship. And
(30:32):
so when she speaks about that to Sam, I thought
that was really really sweet. And then he brings a
siblings to do one more number at the end, don't stop,
I'm different, don't stop.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Do you remember this? Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I do. Actually, those kids were so cute.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So cute. We learned this in a jiff this number?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Did we learn it on stage.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, so if my memory serves correctly, we were very
busy doing a thousand other things prepping for the next episode.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
And.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Prom was a big one.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, problem was a really big one. And Zach was
working his little tushie off and I remember him like
throwing this at us, and they put Harry all the
way up at the front because Harry could pick it
up really quick and just like we could just follow him.
And it was kind of like our free form rock
out kind of thing where we like loosely did what
(31:26):
we were supposed to do. But it was also kind
of fine because it was all about Sam and Quinn
and his siblings.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Do you remember side note My relationship to the song was.
I remember there was like this VH one special back
in the day, I think in the nineties or early
two thousands, and Fleetwood Mac performed at his big concert,
and I remember staying awake and like looking through like
(31:55):
around the side of the wall and watched them perform
the song because I loved it.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well, I loved the song too, Kevin. It was my
one of my first dancer title songs. Cute and I'll
never forget it. See this album. I'm sure so many
people have stories about their connections to these like meaningful
numbers and songs. Okay, so then we have to talk
(32:23):
about BRITTANY'SWANDU for two, which we kind of talked about already,
but we have to talk about Artie's number because woo,
and Santana's number because woo. Okay, so you guys, could
Brittany and AARTI have this great scene in the hallway
where you're a total butt head towards her because.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Artie does not know how to speak to women.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Woof, he does not. We got to smack his mom,
smack Katie Sigal around a little because you know, there's
some lessons to have been learned already.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Rough nothing that comes out of his mouth ever correct.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Alreaty's upset because obviously he's hearing about Brittany and Santana
and saying, you know, you're kind of like the underdog
in this already, and saying like there's some if there's
somebody else that like can give her what she needs,
and you're feeling like kind of insecure and inferior. Is
that right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I think he's like taking out his insecurities and vulnerabilities
out on her, like he's projecting onto her where it's
that's his own shit that he needs to deal with.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Her.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Cheating is a different thing, right, right, Like he's coming
out from a place of Oh, you found somebody that
can give you what I'm supposed to give you, right,
But it's like, yeah, it's because you don't believe that
you're lovable or that you're enough for somebody, right, So
get your shit together, sixteen year old?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Then and then already already not you, already.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Calls her oof, I did not remember that?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh you didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And Heather's reaction action.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
That broke my heart.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
It was really really a great performance by Heather more
because I was gut punched.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, and she got gut punched. It was like, there's
so I mean, Britney ninety nine point nine percent of
the time is like a fairy, you know, did you?
She's just happy going about her thing. And then holy.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Shit, holy crap. Kudos to Heather Morris. Yeah, okay, we
go to we go to never Going back again, one
of my favorite artie songs of all time. Do you remember, Well,
tell me about the recording, and then tell me about
(34:47):
this whole guitar idea with all of the guitarists on stage,
because I don't remember that, and I my jaw was
on the floor.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
It's so good, I Ryan told me. In one of
those you know, like passing moments we were at We're
in video village, somebody was being films like start learning,
never going back again, and I had never heard the
song before. Ah, and I played it and was so
(35:21):
confused because I had no idea how to sing this
song where it was. There's not a lot of vocal
happening in it, It's a lot of instrumentation, and I
was just like, this is a weird choice to put
in an episode. It's not very entertaining. I didn't get it.
I didn't know the vision for it. I didn't know
the context for it. And when I went to record it,
(35:45):
it was just beautiful. I mean the demo, I mean
that track with all those guitars is beautiful. Like they
built out that track sort of how Glee does they
add eight billion vocals, you know, to something. They did
that through the acoustic guitars and this song, and Alex
was so particular about this. Only happened a couple of
(36:07):
times in the course of the show. But he was
so particular in my tone for this song, I think
because it was so simple and there's no hiding behind
anything yep. So you know, normally things were really hard
because they're doing some crazy run or it was really high.
(36:28):
This was like a whole new challenge for me. And
the more we talked about these episodes, the more I
realized I had to break down every single recording session
because I was getting really frustrated because I couldn't hear
the difference of just saying a word differently, placing it differently.
Oh wow, I felt like I was losing my mind.
But you know what made me love the song was
(36:49):
all you girls love this, love this, And I didn't
understand it. I don't get this song. I don't want
And I remember, like Leah, she would be playing it,
blasting it all the time, coming on and off the
lot in her car.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You were doing the same thing yep. And it was
very strange because like, oh they're listening too. Lee's like
can you send me that version? You were like can you?
So I sensed all you girls yep, And it made
me see the song, I think in a new way.
And doing that number was also that shot at the
end with all the guitars behind was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I have chills.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I was kind of watching today and like going back
and forth from the kitchen, like you know, doing some multitasking,
and I like stopped in my tracks for that number
because I kind of like, I've heard it so many
times in my head now I kind of forgot the
way it was shot, and it's it's similar to some
of your other numbers that you've done, like Dancing with Myself.
It reminded me of that because you're on the stage,
(37:46):
but it was so it was shot so differently, and
having the guitars was so brilliant. It really just elevated
the whole thing. And I was like, well, of course
it's Fleetwood math, Like, of course they're going to do
something special. But the shot at the end, and like
the way Tim you know, got that really nice close
up of you, it was really great. It was really
really great. It's really well done.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It's also interesting because I feel like Ryan had a
really particular voice for Artie musically.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Totally, which totally think.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
At the time, I found it frustrating because it was
so against like what Kevin would say right, or I'm
doing all these acoustic songs and yeah, and I don't
think I necessarily really appreciated that having any sort of
vision for anything for any of our characters was so special, right,
(38:42):
and so them having like this musical dialogue for Artie
even he's saying insane shit, I keep cussing.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Sorry, Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, dancing with myself through me, this through me, and
there's more. There's Billy Joel, and there's so many other
acoustic versions that I ended up doing that I do find,
in hindsight really cool.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Did you find that did you feel pressure doing this
song because of Fleetwood and because of the album and
like that?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yes? Oh yeah, I think especially because I didn't know
the song, I felt like an idiot. I felt like
such a like a fraud where I knew the singles
right and hear me probably saying, oh yeah, it's a
classic album and didn't actually know what I was talking about. Really,
I knew how many records that had sold. I didn't
(39:32):
know sure this is the actual songs.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Also, an adulation probably felt the pressure as well, like
our music producers probably felt the pressure because you were
covering such a coveted album.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And you knew make sure they were going to hear it.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Oh my god, that is terrifying. That's so terrifying. Songbird,
Oh oh god, I'm just gonna cry because I'm literally
said the word.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
That vocal crack. My eyes.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I'm crying. It's it's I think Heather said it was
one of her favorite songs that Nya Ever sang, and
I I don't remember the songbir because I don't that
was like my never went back again song. And then
I watched it today and I was like, not, well, yeah,
(40:30):
not well, it's really good. It's like really good. Oh man,
her voice just crying a lot in this episode.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
We're all over the place. I was trying. It started
and I was like, oh, I don't think I can engage,
and I like picked up.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
My phone off yeah yeah yeah, And I was like, I.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Don't think I can do this today, I know. And
then it got to I don't you know what, let
me find it so I can fully referenced this properly.
It got to the vocal crack and I had to
put down my phone and I rewound it. I'm like,
you know what, I'm like, I gotta I have to
do this it deserves it. So if you go look
(41:17):
it up on YouTube, it's around fifty three seconds. Okay,
but Heather's fully crying. I mean that's Heather. That's like
not Brittany.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
When I think when Heather says beautiful, I think that
I don't think that was written. I think that was
just her saying that.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, when Nya sings that, Nia was like such technically
a good singer. And then also when you add in
a song that is written this well and it's just
piano and raw, it's the most perfect presentation of vocals
(41:58):
and songwriting I think possible. And they left I also,
you know, sometimes in the rush to record vocals really
quickly to record pop sounding songs, that sometimes the songs
can be like overly refined, I think vocally right, and
there was nothing but Naya's vocal texture in this song.
(42:22):
And that one part I think gets me because of
that where it almost sounds like her voice is gonna
go out, but it doesn't, and it displays this like
crazy amount of emotion that she's portraying. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, it's pretty perfect, gotta say.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
And it's there's nothing happening, She's just standing there I.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Know, but the vocals are just like.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
But I also love that, you know, so often there's
things thrown in there. And sometimes she's not even really
necessarily putting on a show. She's not performing it. She's
just singing it right, and Brittany's watching it. And that's enough.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It's enough. It's too much, to be honest, it's too much.
H Well, I can't talk about a mutch it anymore. Okay,
So she wants so Brittany wants Santana to sing in
front of her, but she's like, why can't you just
(43:31):
be a little bit with it? And Santana is just
not ready. So Santana then goes to Jacob and Israel
and says, that hurt Krofsky, your soulmates, and it crushes
little Britney's heart. And and there we have pretty much rumors.
It's a it's a doozy, it's a big episode. A
(43:52):
lot happens, a lot of music. I will say, like
if they incorporated all of it really well, and like
the rumor mill and the whole thing around, the album
is very well done.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Seeing that too, it didn't nothing really felt so shoehorned
in right, It really did compliment everybody's stories, and I
think it probably brought out some stories that wouldn't have
happened otherwise that were really good and needed.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Well, should we use some tarty takes.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Let's do some tarty takes?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Auchi's Jenna cringe moments.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I mean, all the rumors, but Brittany asking him about
pannies was mister true about pannies was just not not
for me.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, I think I Yeah, I think I have to agree.
I think that's probably the one for me. Okay, best
dance move. There's not a lot to pick from. There's
only one dance in this episode.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I guess April and Will's left.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, that's when I started sweating. It was like, don't get.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Best song. I'm going with never going back.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Ooh brave, I'm going with songbird.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Great best performance by a promp Lord Tummington. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Anything that happened in Fondie for two Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Great, best line when Santana's talking about how they're treating
her differently already because of the rumor, and she's they
asked me to traffic golf team. The delivery is is gold.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I Also one of my favorites has been se says
brought worst gobbler April Room.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
You texted me that earlier too.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You're like, I I almost did a spittake. I had
to put down my water. I leaned over and was
crying in this house alone watching it. It was so
I was like, what did you just say? Oh my god,
brought worst gobbler. Brittany's that's yeah, Brittany's question also question one,
do you think The Aristocrats is an accurate portrayal of
(46:05):
a feline relationship? You know, just because we're doing this
interview doesn't mean I'm still not mad at you because
I know you start smoking again.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Really very funny, MVP. I'm going I'm giving it to Chord.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Chord totally giving it to Cordy.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, well you guys, thanks for hanging with us for
Freewood Mac Week. It was really fun.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
N I know you hate TikTok, but it doesn't mean
we can't do shit. We can on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Crap crap crap. I love TikTok. I mean, I know
I don't love TikTok. I like these tiktoks. Give it
to me, Kevin, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
How dare you because Maddie M eleven on TikTok has
pointed out astute Lee that's the narrator and Barbie you
know that small movie that came out recently, and Becky's
(47:08):
inner monologue are both Dame Helen Muran the one and
Only and it's him realizing it, so saying Becky is
the narrator of Barbie. So if we believe that these
(47:30):
are part of the same cinematic universe, then yeah, I
loved it. Thank you, Maddie M. Thank you everyone for
tagging us and submitting us with these beautiful tiktoks. You
should go watch it. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
And now that's what you really miss.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I'm sorry, Jenna, thanks for joining.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Wait next week, prom everyone could come back. It's a
lot of great music and don't want to miss it. No, no, no,
it's gonna be great. Oh I don't know what happened there. Okay,
see you next week. Thanks for listening and follow us
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Make sure to write us a review and leave us
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And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to And that's what you're reading in this podcast.
It is rumor time. I'm dead of Rumersgarden wrong rumor. Yeah,
so many rumors flying around, so many rumors like you
being on steroids.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh my god, what happened to you guys? What happened
to media literacy? Did it exist?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No, that's I was going to say, what happened?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It never was?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Never was? Okay, Welcome everybody, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Hi, Kevin, Hi, Jenna.
This is a fun episode because this is a special episode.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
All one album, the first time we've done that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It is a perfect album, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh no, I have nothing bad to say about this album.
I am Christine McVie, who passed away fairly recently. I
didn't realize she wrote most of this album. And she's
sort of becoming like a George Harrison figure to me
that the older I get, I sort of gravitate towards
(01:24):
her songs and how because I was watching Naya sing
songbirds who wrote this? And it was her? And I
think we know Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham. But yeah, damn,
she could write the shit out of a song. Certainly.
(01:46):
She wrote five songs on this.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Album, Wow, which one she.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Wrote, Don't Stop? She wrote Songbird, She co wrote The
Chain with all of Fleetwood. She wrote you Make Love
and Fun and wrote oh Daddy, Wow, what's crazy is too?
I loved that sort of. One of the lessons in
this episode is that they were all cleved. Mack was
not getting along and they wrote sort of separately or
(02:13):
when they did come together, it was only about music
and a lot of these songs are just solo rights.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
There's only one song that has It's the Chain that
has everybody on it. Everything else was either Lindsey Buckingham,
Steve Nicks or Christine McVie by themselves. Yeah, they were writing,
They had a lot of feelings and they were writing
this how crazy. But love that. This is the first
(02:43):
you know all album episode that we did because it
deserves it. It's one of the best selling, if not
the best selling album of all time.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Geez yeah, I mean or that his hits is the best.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
That's the Eagles?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Can you keep us now? As a kid, I was
obsessed with these sorts of charts and lists and what's
the best selling single and album? And still are still yes?
So Rumors aired on May thir twenty eleven. It was
season two episode nineteen.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh my god, my heart just started to flutter.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We were almost done with season two.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's crazy, it really is, okay. The number one song
was et Still from by Katy Perry featuring I'm just
gonna say Katy Perry. The number one movie was Fast five.
Still haven't seen any of.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Those, that's crazy. They were already on five twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
The tenth can seem fast and furious, any of them?
Because I really love these, like very simple action movies.
Not simple. Let me rephrase that. I really love these.
It's simple, these blockbuster action films, and so I just
I feel like there's too many, Like I don't even
(04:04):
know where to start.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I think you can just start anywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I've only seen the second one, Too Fast, too Furious,
and I say, and you can. That's good enough for me, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Glee News This week. On May second, Diana, Lee and
Matt went to the met Gala for the first time
in New York City and the theme was McQueen, Savage,
Beauty Woo.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And on May fourth, the cast attended special screening Q
and a panel at the Television Academy at Paramount Studios.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Oh my goodness, I only remembered these events based on
what I was wearing because there were so many of them.
So if I see a picture this one, okay, okay,
So I was wearing like a like an orange dress.
I think we were coming off of So. I think
we had all been working all day and then just
(05:03):
changed into our outfits from one.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yes, that sounds right.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
In our trailers because we all are very tired.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Didn't We always look tired, some days more tired than others,
but we were still young. So this episode, as Kevin said,
is the first episode that is centered around an album,
a singular album, and it was directed by Tim Hunter,
who I think this is his one and only if
(05:33):
I'm sweet Hunter christ and CHOHn was back as abral Roads.
She's back and tell me about.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The songs in this episode Kevin Wow, stacked dreams, never
going back again, Songbird, I don't want to know, go
your own way, don't stop.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Then there's a little aast risk, you know, nice to
meet you have I Slept with You now, which is
not part of Rumors.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's very funny though it is.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And then an honorable mention shout out to the chain
that's playing in the background throughout a lot of the episode.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I love that too.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
There's some great fun facts as well.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay, tell me some.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Fleetwood Macs album Rumors re entered the Billboard two hundred
chart at number eleven the week after this episode air.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I mean, look, we can take a little bit of
credit for that, but also like it stands on it.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Oh yeah, and I think it has just gotten better
with age too, totally. It's just become cooler and cooler.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
We listened to it all the time now and has
heard it quite a few times. What else happened? What
other fun facts?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
At Paileyfest, Ryan Murphy revealed Stevien Next visiting the set
for Landside inspired them to choose Rumors as their single
album tribute episode. That was a quick turnaround. You see
how quickly they have to come up with these things.
In the turnaround, we just did land Signs.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Ryan said. We can get Stevie NICKX on the phone
now and we can get Lindsay Buckingham who has kids,
who's like, oh my god, I'd love that. So twelve
hours later, you get the rights to rumors.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh crazy, I've just got chills. Twelve hours you get
the rights to.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Room like what Stevie Nicks on Speed Dial. Okay, so
apparent Remember we asked about Fondu for two. Yes, where
it came from? Yes, So apparently it did come from
a Glee van Teresa, who went to the tour in
twenty ten and had a letter delivered to Corey that
(07:37):
mentioned she was writing from an internet program, a YouTube
show called Fondu for two. Heather admitted the idea came
from a letter in the show later, since Teresa an
autograph copy of the script, an autograph cast picture, and thanks.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I don't think I knew that either. Wow. You know what?
I vaguely remember this, Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I did, Ron Burgundy. I'm just reading things.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I know I remember this. Yes, yes, yes, okay, Oh
my gosh, this is that's really funny because it's it's
it is. One of my favorite things about the show
is Fondue for two.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I enjoyed Fondue for two now a lot you didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Like Fondu for two back in the day.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, I I was confused by it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I was very confused by it. Now they didn't like it.
I was like, is this the same show? Well, but
I don't know why. That's what we do so much
crazy shit? Why was that?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
The thing was like, hmmm, I kind of agree with you.
It felt dated, Like the way it was shot felt
like a seventies like or eight like I don't know,
eighties like Nickelodeon show like There's six Plains at All
or something like that. I don't know. It just felt
different than what we were doing. And like the style
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and the quality of the way it was shot. I
think also visually changed my way of seeing it. And
you're right, I enjoy it much more now. But it's
so funny. It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I do have to say, though, to your note about
how it was filmed, I feel like Tim Hunter filmed
this very sematically. Cinematically. It felt more like a little movie.
It didn't feel so TV to me.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah. I had a lot of very Yeah, no, you're
You're totally right, and there are really a lot of
beautiful shots. So Jenna, what happens in this episode. Okay,
break it down for it, break it down. Okay, So
Sue Sue.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm sorry. I couldn't say cinematic and you didn't say anything,
and you mess up one word.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
There's this blooper from Glee that I sue Sue has
school spirit or something like that, and it reminded me
of that. It brought me back to my lips started
to get all tangled.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So soon I thought bloopers didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
No, no, there doesn't exist. Sense, I'm friends with a
lot of people who worked in the editing room.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Okay, I caught you. Jenna's got something in the fault.
I feel this is she's covering her face. Now, Jenna,
do you have bloopers? You're gonna get hacked so quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Then don't don't bring it. I'm crying.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Wow. Okay, hmm, don't worry. I'm gonna have anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
You're gonna dig out with me.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm coming over suits. Jen is actually crying. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So Sue revives the Muckraker, which is the school newspaper.
It's very trumpy and the way that this is all approached. Okay,
So Sue decides to print a few inflammatory blind items,
very anonymous, very gossipy, very page six ish. The Glee
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club gains a new respect for Sam when they discover
this big secret at the end of the episode about
his life. And meanwhile, I Were Roads returns to Lama
and tries to convince Will to hit the road with
her a Broadway and leave McKinley behind. All while these
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rumors are being thread and intertwined throughout the.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Episode what if Trump She's a really big Glee fan?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Gross and then Stopian universe Kevin. Whatever Sue does, I
can do better? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So okay, rumors tidally episode how do we get into rumors?
Sue brings back to the school newspaper to stop the glee
club with the help of Terry. She's back April Unknowingly.
This scene at the line of Bean where Sue stresses
David Bowie and then very quickly is Anne Colter is
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one of the wildest.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It's getting really wild now.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And I love this is her being incognito.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And asking her moke up powder.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
By the way, since Terry Shooter has gotten a divorce,
her face beats. This is looking great.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
She's painted, She's single and fancy free Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, she wants her apartment back. I don't know how
she's going to get that back, but I don't either.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But Terry has an idea that she's going to get
They should get Will out of the glee club instead
of destroying him from the inside. And Sue has this.
He's talking about the Muckbreaker, and she's saying that she's
no longer concerned with facts fact checking in the integrity
effects the muckreaker motto if I heard it's probably true
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or something sounds familiar. And the newspaper causes chaos because
there are some items about it reminds me of like
Do moy in our day and age of like the
Secret Keeper, Oh totally, or the Gossip Tellers. And this
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is about Quinn Sam having a secret affair because they're
meeting up at a motel and about Santana playing for
the other team, and it causes k chaos within Lukely Club.
And then Will tells April when she returns because she
needs to borrow her auditorium that this all sounds like
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Fleetwood Mac. So this inspires Will's lesson which I'm I'm
noticing a trend, a pattern of Will feeling inspired on
the day, So Will's inspired by the Rumors album Fleetwood
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Max Rumors album. That that's gonna be the lesson plan
for the week.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I mean it's very also Stevie Nick's being on set
and Ryan being inspired to the Rumors episode.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I do think it's wild that Brittany just outed. I mean,
giving her the benefit of the doubt. Yes, Brittany does
some questionable things, but she doesn't no better. But her
outing her on Fondu for two was pretty wild. How
is it filming Fondue for two? Okay, you're looking into
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the camera.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It was really fun. It was really fun, really really
fun to do amber with the fund with the fondue
being really hot, was really funny.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I felt very real it was.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There was all like very off the cuff, very ridiculous. Gosh,
this is so funny. Lord Tubbington I think he was
in this one. I think it was this one. Maybe
we come do we come back for Fundu for two?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yes, there's a lot more fun Okay, no, but I mean,
does teena come back funny?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Probably because in my memory and I think it was
this one, Lord Tummington would not stay still and Lord
Tubbington kept running out of the room. Yeah, and so
we had to keep doing it because Lord Tummington wouldn't
do his job.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Remember you guys telling us about.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I wouldn't hit his mark. But sweet Lord Tuvington, I
don't remember the cat's real name. It's a cat. It's
not even a dog that's like really trainable. It's a cat.
And Lord Tumington did not want to be on set
that day, so kitty cat get running away. But we
love Lord Tomington, Lord Timings. It's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You guys were hilarious.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's very funny. It's it's very it feels very us if.
It also feels like very like uh blaming on the alcohol.
Me and Amber laughing drunkenly, like fake acting drunkenly together.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You guys on a new set, a new setup, and
love it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We love it anyway. I'm glad that it opened the episode.
Oh no, not did it open up? No no, no, it
didn't open the episode. It felt like it opened.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I do get why people also wanted like a spin
off of this. Oh it did open the episode.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Right, Okay, I'm not crazy, Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
But that's not why.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, because I have Bluebirds anyways, saying oh, yes, spin off,
I get it now, Yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I wanted to see more of it. I wanted Brittany's
take on everything.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Like the Biggest Gossips.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I think that also would be a funny hm hmmm
mm hmm, it's just as funny.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So Jenna and I have the zoomis.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Who's saying it today? Okay, okay, I'm crying and I
don't know why, guys strike, I'm still crying from Kevin
outing me. All right, So then Brittany is Brittany gets
used by Sue Faster to try and get answers for
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Girls Are Inspired.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
She seems very into it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, gossip for the newspaper for mister Shue.
And it's trying. She's trying to be salacious but she
doesn't even realize it. But she's also trying to plant
the seed in Will's head that he wants to go
to the Broadway.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I love that it took to question three for Will
to say this is inappropriate it.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
But but hew, there's some delivery on like we'll see
some coach Susan, I can say anything, right, let's talk
about Will.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And in April don't you just love when you see
that face come on to the screen?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
What a joy? I really wish we had more April
Roads in the whole series.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It feels like she's always there, it does.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Is that just because she meant a lot to ask
off screen?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah? Probably the first guest star.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
How good is Dreams? Though?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's so good? It's so good, it's so good? Can
they just sing the whole Rumors album?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I know they're so good? I this fun tract. This
was the second single off the album. In real life,
you hear.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
This and you're like, oh, this was like number one
on my cocktail list, like a playlist for uh my wife.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
This is one of those songs that also has just
gotten bigger with time. Mm hmmm, where like this wasn't
something we were listening to in high school, but high
school students now know this song?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah yeah. And then April decides that she's going to
well when her all white Products of the Wiz didn't
work out shocking huzzah. She she decides she's going to
write her own musical based on her real feelings, and
Will is kind of helping guide that, and they end
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up performing this wild number nice to meet you. Have
I slept with you? This reminds me of like my headband,
where like she can't quite find her her groove, her
songwriting groove. But the number is beautifully sung. I don't
care what the word said. I could listen to christ
and Channhalth all day and.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
There's a full orchestra on stage.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
They have beautiful It felt like we were watching like
like them at the Boston you know, Pops or Yes.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Emma walks in and I was like, oh no, please, guys,
don't kiss, don't make something. Luckily that didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But Emma Will then encouraged Will to actually follow his dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Dreams, and she's taken her medicine and didn't individually wipe
off each great so she's making strides. She is making strides.
Can we just talk about the little girls Kiky and
April and Sue and Terror having.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I feel like this was also around the time where
in La it became like really cool to eat your
placenta after you give birth, and that's probably where the
writers got that.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Absolutely I did.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Eat my placenta, by the way, Okay, I love that
for you. The Kiki is funny. You just don't see
those women in a room together ever. But that's you know,
I'm a sucker for mixing up the groups always. But
the rumor mel works and April's like, wait, well that's
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not true. This isn't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It's like, well, we'll just put it out there and
then it will. So the Glee Club sees it and
sees that Will is leaving with April to help over
with the show. But he says he has a lot
of dreams and one of them is getting the Glee
Club to Nationals. After he has that emotional opening with
Emma where he starts to sort of cry in the
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teacher's lounge.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That also reminded me of the Pilot a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, it was sweet. I think it's sweet.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's sweet, okay. And then and then we've got a
couple of other things going on within the Muckraker rumor mill.
Sam and Quinn are apparently having an affair according to
the muckraker, and Finn, who's dating Quit at the time,
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and so Rachel and Finn to a stake out at
the motel outside the motel taking photos and Finn is
sure that they're having an affair, but they discover that
Kurt is walking out of the hotel with Sam bisexual representation.
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I'm kidding, and people they are now think Rachel is
thinking he's cheating. I'm blame. So it's all these cheaters.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Everybody's cheating, everybody's rumoring. I also liked this. This was fun,
inappropriate for the kids to be doing this, but also
something kids would do. This is also at the same time,
Jbi is taking pictures of Rachel and Finn together, taking
pictures of Kurt and Sam together.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You just think that's inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Well, yeah, like sort of stalking someone like that is inappropriate,
but also in high school, it's some shit you would do,
you know, totally.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, it's a little adult like, but not really.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's also just fun. This storyline ends up being comedy
and turning into something really meaningful and real at the end.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes, So there's a lot of rumors that Sam is
gay and Quinn's like, he's not gay, but she can't
really reveal what's going on because she knows the truth.
She just tells Finn like, you got to trust me.
He's like, how can I trust you when you're not
telling me anything, you know, not sharing with me. And
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then Rachel sees Sam wearing one of kurch jackets. She's
just hilarious, which is very hot, and Kurt deflex by
questioning the question by saying that Fleetwood Mac only spoke
about the music when making rumors, and they so that
they should be only focusing on nationals.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Side note, can we speaking of new combos? Can we
talk about Rachel and Sam having that little combo episode
about prom? So we're bringing up prom because that's happening
next episode. And then gives him the chapstick and at
the end he's said, thanks for the lip chap And
I made it into that. So that's like what we
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used to.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Say lip chat. Did we get lip chat from that
or did they take that from us?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I think they took that from us. I feel pretty
confident that Corey.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
He took that from us or stuck that in there.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I mean most of Buele, one of the makeup artists,
she used to say that all the time too.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh maybe it was a bule thing.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I think it was a mule thing.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, Okay, Well, we love when our little jokes make
it in. We're a little sayings and things like the mouths.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I think we got at one point about fitting them
in very quickly because you wouldn't even notice.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And he also wasn't scared to like mess with people
like Yeah, I was like a rule follower. I'd be like,
should get the lines exactly right? Okay, he got away
with it with anything because he's just so cute.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Pretty privilege is real, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So they do another stakeout at the motel and racheline
and see Quinn coming out and then hugging with Sam
and so we are sure, we are sure that they're
having an affair now, and that's when Finn and Quinn
have that little trust conversation and then they sing I
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Don't want to Know in the choir room.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Also a very good version, Yeah, very good version.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I Don't want to Know is one of the songs
I don't Know as well from that album, do you
know what I mean? Yeah, I just like one of
the ones I don't listen to as as often as
some of the others.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I think us doing it made me listen to it more. Yeah,
because it's a great song and it's hilarious how they
perform it together.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
They're very good together.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
They are. It's actually nice to see them back together.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And it's nice to see Diana get to do some
more comedy. Actually, like herself, is always very loaded with drama.
It's true, she got pregnant very early, you know, always crying, yeah,
poor thing.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And Rachel performs go your Own Way, and she's clearly
with no qualms about it, serenading Finn in this number.
Rachel's wild, Rachel's off the hook or off off not
that's not off the chain. No, that's not right either.
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Rachel is off her rocker right now, there you go,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Now, this weird thing happens with the whole Sam thing
that felt really inappropriate, but again very high school, where
everyone piling on about what he was doing and he's
not saying anything totally and everybody's jumping in on everybody,
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and and then he has like this really serious confession.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
That he's very high school though.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, and then Will's just sort of there, like guys,
don't do it. Sam's been living in the motel because
his dad lost his job, so they've lost their house
and the family's not out living in the hotel, and
Kurt has been bringing Sam close and Quinn has been
helping Sam babysit his siblings, and so Rachel and Finn
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go back over there to sort of apologize and to
help out. And it's very sweet. You meet his little
siblings and they bring him a guitar. Fenn brings clothes
and they realize, you know, like they had to sell
their possessions. Everything fits in this one motel room. And
his parents are out in the pavement trying to find
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work and they can't and they mentioned the recession, which
if that was really interesting because I don't know, I
think this is the first time it's mentioned.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh definitely.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's like, man, not an issue goes unaddressed, ugly right even,
But what a perfect character to I know.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I really love this storyline because it's just really honest
and raw, and for for cord to do it, it's
really sweet.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh Cordy crying.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I know. And Cordy has a big family too, so
like just like it feels like he was able to
like pull from like a really honest place for this,
for this. And yeah, he's also really good with kids
and he's also a dog whisper, so I believed him
with those with his little sisters is he.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
A dog whisper.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, he like pick his bear up, and Bear like
melts into his arms and doesn't move. It's really strange.
Always from the time Bear was like a tiny puppy
to like a couple of days ago, he'll just like
pick Bear up and like Bear will just like Okay, Yeah,
it's really funny. Did you talk about the guitar? Did
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you mention the guitar? Did I miss that?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I did?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I did? Okay, okay, okay, But but I didn't talk
about how much do they emphasize it, like they need
him to stay, They need him, the glee club needs him,
He needs the music. Yeah, Because if there's one thing
that Rachel's going to talk sincerely about, it's about understanding
the love of music and how music helps the people
who love it. Right, it's a mutually beneficial relationship. And
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so when she speaks about that to Sam, I thought
that was really really sweet. And then he brings a
siblings to do one more number at the end, don't stop,
I'm different, don't stop.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Do you remember this? Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I do. Actually, those kids were so cute.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So cute. We learned this in a jiff this number?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Did we learn it on stage.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, so if my memory serves correctly, we were very
busy doing a thousand other things prepping for the next episode.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
And.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Prom was a big one.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, problem was a really big one. And Zach was
working his little tushie off and I remember him like
throwing this at us, and they put Harry all the
way up at the front because Harry could pick it
up really quick and just like we could just follow him.
And it was kind of like our free form rock
out kind of thing where we like loosely did what
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we were supposed to do. But it was also kind
of fine because it was all about Sam and Quinn
and his siblings.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Do you remember side note My relationship to the song was.
I remember there was like this VH one special back
in the day, I think in the nineties or early
two thousands, and Fleetwood Mac performed at his big concert,
and I remember staying awake and like looking through like
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around the side of the wall and watched them perform
the song because I loved it.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well, I loved the song too, Kevin. It was my
one of my first dancer title songs. Cute and I'll
never forget it. See this album. I'm sure so many
people have stories about their connections to these like meaningful
numbers and songs. Okay, so then we have to talk
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about BRITTANY'SWANDU for two, which we kind of talked about already,
but we have to talk about Artie's number because woo,
and Santana's number because woo. Okay, so you guys, could
Brittany and AARTI have this great scene in the hallway
where you're a total butt head towards her because.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Artie does not know how to speak to women.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Woof, he does not. We got to smack his mom,
smack Katie Sigal around a little because you know, there's
some lessons to have been learned already.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Rough nothing that comes out of his mouth ever correct.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Alreaty's upset because obviously he's hearing about Brittany and Santana
and saying, you know, you're kind of like the underdog
in this already, and saying like there's some if there's
somebody else that like can give her what she needs,
and you're feeling like kind of insecure and inferior. Is
that right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I think he's like taking out his insecurities and vulnerabilities
out on her, like he's projecting onto her where it's
that's his own shit that he needs to deal with.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Her.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Cheating is a different thing, right, right, Like he's coming
out from a place of Oh, you found somebody that
can give you what I'm supposed to give you, right,
But it's like, yeah, it's because you don't believe that
you're lovable or that you're enough for somebody, right, So
get your shit together, sixteen year old?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Then and then already already not you, already.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Calls her oof, I did not remember that?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh you didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And Heather's reaction action.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
That broke my heart.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
It was really really a great performance by Heather more
because I was gut punched.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, and she got gut punched. It was like, there's
so I mean, Britney ninety nine point nine percent of
the time is like a fairy, you know, did you?
She's just happy going about her thing. And then holy.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Shit, holy crap. Kudos to Heather Morris. Yeah, okay, we
go to we go to never Going back again, one
of my favorite artie songs of all time. Do you remember, Well,
tell me about the recording, and then tell me about
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this whole guitar idea with all of the guitarists on stage,
because I don't remember that, and I my jaw was
on the floor.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
It's so good, I Ryan told me. In one of
those you know, like passing moments we were at We're
in video village, somebody was being films like start learning,
never going back again, and I had never heard the
song before. Ah, and I played it and was so
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confused because I had no idea how to sing this
song where it was. There's not a lot of vocal
happening in it, It's a lot of instrumentation, and I
was just like, this is a weird choice to put
in an episode. It's not very entertaining. I didn't get it.
I didn't know the vision for it. I didn't know
the context for it. And when I went to record it,
(35:45):
it was just beautiful. I mean the demo, I mean
that track with all those guitars is beautiful. Like they
built out that track sort of how Glee does they
add eight billion vocals, you know, to something. They did
that through the acoustic guitars and this song, and Alex
was so particular about this. Only happened a couple of
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times in the course of the show. But he was
so particular in my tone for this song, I think
because it was so simple and there's no hiding behind
anything yep. So you know, normally things were really hard
because they're doing some crazy run or it was really high.
(36:28):
This was like a whole new challenge for me. And
the more we talked about these episodes, the more I
realized I had to break down every single recording session
because I was getting really frustrated because I couldn't hear
the difference of just saying a word differently, placing it differently.
Oh wow, I felt like I was losing my mind.
But you know what made me love the song was
(36:49):
all you girls love this, love this, And I didn't
understand it. I don't get this song. I don't want
And I remember, like Leah, she would be playing it,
blasting it all the time, coming on and off the
lot in her car.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You were doing the same thing yep. And it was
very strange because like, oh they're listening too. Lee's like
can you send me that version? You were like can you?
So I sensed all you girls yep, And it made
me see the song, I think in a new way.
And doing that number was also that shot at the
end with all the guitars behind was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I have chills.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I was kind of watching today and like going back
and forth from the kitchen, like you know, doing some multitasking,
and I like stopped in my tracks for that number
because I kind of like, I've heard it so many
times in my head now I kind of forgot the
way it was shot, and it's it's similar to some
of your other numbers that you've done, like Dancing with Myself.
It reminded me of that because you're on the stage,
(37:46):
but it was so it was shot so differently, and
having the guitars was so brilliant. It really just elevated
the whole thing. And I was like, well, of course
it's Fleetwood math, Like, of course they're going to do
something special. But the shot at the end, and like
the way Tim you know, got that really nice close
up of you, it was really great. It was really
really great. It's really well done.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It's also interesting because I feel like Ryan had a
really particular voice for Artie musically.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Totally, which totally think.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
At the time, I found it frustrating because it was
so against like what Kevin would say right, or I'm
doing all these acoustic songs and yeah, and I don't
think I necessarily really appreciated that having any sort of
vision for anything for any of our characters was so special, right,
(38:42):
and so them having like this musical dialogue for Artie
even he's saying insane shit, I keep cussing.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Sorry, Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, dancing with myself through me, this through me, and
there's more. There's Billy Joel, and there's so many other
acoustic versions that I ended up doing that I do find,
in hindsight really cool.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Did you find that did you feel pressure doing this
song because of Fleetwood and because of the album and
like that?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yes? Oh yeah, I think especially because I didn't know
the song, I felt like an idiot. I felt like
such a like a fraud where I knew the singles
right and hear me probably saying, oh yeah, it's a
classic album and didn't actually know what I was talking about. Really,
I knew how many records that had sold. I didn't
(39:32):
know sure this is the actual songs.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Also, an adulation probably felt the pressure as well, like
our music producers probably felt the pressure because you were
covering such a coveted album.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And you knew make sure they were going to hear it.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Oh my god, that is terrifying. That's so terrifying. Songbird,
Oh oh god, I'm just gonna cry because I'm literally
said the word.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
That vocal crack. My eyes.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I'm crying. It's it's I think Heather said it was
one of her favorite songs that Nya Ever sang, and
I I don't remember the songbir because I don't that
was like my never went back again song. And then
I watched it today and I was like, not, well, yeah,
(40:30):
not well, it's really good. It's like really good. Oh man,
her voice just crying a lot in this episode.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
We're all over the place. I was trying. It started
and I was like, oh, I don't think I can engage,
and I like picked up.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
My phone off yeah yeah yeah, And I was like, I.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Don't think I can do this today, I know. And
then it got to I don't you know what, let
me find it so I can fully referenced this properly.
It got to the vocal crack and I had to
put down my phone and I rewound it. I'm like,
you know what, I'm like, I gotta I have to
do this it deserves it. So if you go look
(41:17):
it up on YouTube, it's around fifty three seconds. Okay,
but Heather's fully crying. I mean that's Heather. That's like
not Brittany.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
When I think when Heather says beautiful, I think that
I don't think that was written. I think that was
just her saying that.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, when Nya sings that, Nia was like such technically
a good singer. And then also when you add in
a song that is written this well and it's just
piano and raw, it's the most perfect presentation of vocals
(41:58):
and songwriting I think possible. And they left I also,
you know, sometimes in the rush to record vocals really
quickly to record pop sounding songs, that sometimes the songs
can be like overly refined, I think vocally right, and
there was nothing but Naya's vocal texture in this song.
(42:22):
And that one part I think gets me because of
that where it almost sounds like her voice is gonna
go out, but it doesn't, and it displays this like
crazy amount of emotion that she's portraying. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, it's pretty perfect, gotta say.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
And it's there's nothing happening, She's just standing there I.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Know, but the vocals are just like.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
But I also love that, you know, so often there's
things thrown in there. And sometimes she's not even really
necessarily putting on a show. She's not performing it. She's
just singing it right, and Brittany's watching it. And that's enough.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It's enough. It's too much, to be honest, it's too much.
H Well, I can't talk about a mutch it anymore. Okay,
So she wants so Brittany wants Santana to sing in
front of her, but she's like, why can't you just
(43:31):
be a little bit with it? And Santana is just
not ready. So Santana then goes to Jacob and Israel
and says, that hurt Krofsky, your soulmates, and it crushes
little Britney's heart. And and there we have pretty much rumors.
It's a it's a doozy, it's a big episode. A
(43:52):
lot happens, a lot of music. I will say, like
if they incorporated all of it really well, and like
the rumor mill and the whole thing around, the album
is very well done.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Seeing that too, it didn't nothing really felt so shoehorned
in right, It really did compliment everybody's stories, and I
think it probably brought out some stories that wouldn't have
happened otherwise that were really good and needed.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Well, should we use some tarty takes.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Let's do some tarty takes?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Auchi's Jenna cringe moments.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I mean, all the rumors, but Brittany asking him about
pannies was mister true about pannies was just not not
for me.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, I think I Yeah, I think I have to agree.
I think that's probably the one for me. Okay, best
dance move. There's not a lot to pick from. There's
only one dance in this episode.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I guess April and Will's left.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, that's when I started sweating. It was like, don't get.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Best song. I'm going with never going back.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Ooh brave, I'm going with songbird.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Great best performance by a promp Lord Tummington. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Anything that happened in Fondie for two Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Great, best line when Santana's talking about how they're treating
her differently already because of the rumor, and she's they
asked me to traffic golf team. The delivery is is gold.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I Also one of my favorites has been se says
brought worst gobbler April Room.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
You texted me that earlier too.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You're like, I I almost did a spittake. I had
to put down my water. I leaned over and was
crying in this house alone watching it. It was so
I was like, what did you just say? Oh my god,
brought worst gobbler. Brittany's that's yeah, Brittany's question also question one,
do you think The Aristocrats is an accurate portrayal of
(46:05):
a feline relationship? You know, just because we're doing this
interview doesn't mean I'm still not mad at you because
I know you start smoking again.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Really very funny, MVP. I'm going I'm giving it to Chord.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Chord totally giving it to Cordy.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, well you guys, thanks for hanging with us for
Freewood Mac Week. It was really fun.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
N I know you hate TikTok, but it doesn't mean
we can't do shit. We can on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Crap crap crap. I love TikTok. I mean, I know
I don't love TikTok. I like these tiktoks. Give it
to me, Kevin, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
How dare you because Maddie M eleven on TikTok has
pointed out astute Lee that's the narrator and Barbie you
know that small movie that came out recently, and Becky's
(47:08):
inner monologue are both Dame Helen Muran the one and
Only and it's him realizing it, so saying Becky is
the narrator of Barbie. So if we believe that these
(47:30):
are part of the same cinematic universe, then yeah, I
loved it. Thank you, Maddie M. Thank you everyone for
tagging us and submitting us with these beautiful tiktoks. You
should go watch it. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
And now that's what you really miss.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I'm sorry, Jenna, thanks for joining.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Wait next week, prom everyone could come back. It's a
lot of great music and don't want to miss it. No, no, no,
it's gonna be great. Oh I don't know what happened there. Okay,
see you next week. Thanks for listening and follow us
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Jenna Ushkowitz
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