LS Episode 515: Heartbreak & High Standards (feat. Tifa)

Dancehall star Tifa joins Angela Yee and the Lip Service crew to talk about her viral song I Want a Man, why modern dating has her raising the bar, and the lessons she’s learned from being engaged four times. From gender roles and relationship standards to heartbreak, industry challenges, and unforgettable bedroom stories, Tifa holds nothing back in this unfiltered and inspiring conversation.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up his lipservice, I'm as like, yee, I'm Gig Maguire,
I'm Jordie or Jimmy, Okay, I don't get it wrong. Well,
first of all, thank you so much for joining us today,
having me and cheers. Do you. I know you came
in with a slight headache, but the tequila will clear
this right up. And I do want to shout out
They're not sponsoring us for nothing but Antil Tequila because

(00:23):
it's a black woman own brand and so it's a
coconut line that we're doing and it has a little
hint of pepper and it's good. Yeah, I shout out
to her. We love that. Well, first of all, let's
talk about you man. First. I've been following your career,
your music, like you've done some classic songs, you know.
I'm also a fan of like early on dext adapts
and you and just seeing where you are today. You

(00:46):
have a song out right now that some people are
saying it's quote controversial, but I don't see an issue
with it right me either.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
You know what this this is what I'm in the
right place. It's literally is just the voice of women
right now. That's literally in the uber speaking with somebody,
and she's literally like talking about what I'm talking about
in the son Man exactly like I think a lot
of us, especially us independent women, we just want somebody

(01:15):
to match up to, you know what I mean. You
just want somebody to love us and care for us
and protect us, like you know, the men that God
said is supposed to do it. And I was saying
to her that I grew up in a household where
my stepdad, my dad, they were the men of the
househole like you know what I mean. Like, so I
can't settle for rubbish. It makes absolutely no sense. I

(01:36):
saw my stepfather, my father be the father figure and
be the man at the house, you know what I mean.
So I don't know. It's just it's weird. It's like
a lot of a lot of these men are in
their soft girl.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I say, they want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Exactly like it is. It is, it is. It is
so sadden. A lot of women are opting to be
single because there's just someone to deal with it. You
have become the men that we want to marry. We
have become the men that we want to date. We
have become the men that are hustling we it's the
women know that are hustling. It's they said, sixty five
percent of people that are buying homes, know are single women.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
First of all, a lot of pas that you do
statistics out here and back it up. I'm slight like it.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's like it's a real thing. Like I went down
a rabbit hole. I kid you not, ladies, I went
down a rabbit hole in writing this song the particular week.
Then when the song was written, I sent a bunch
of beats. For some reason, I picked this one. Usually
you know, it would be like the dancer kind of
vibe and are killing that. For the entire week when
I sent that beat, every single girlfriend that I had

(02:47):
was complaining about their situationship, their relationship, dotty man, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Like you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Like everybody was complaining. And then that was the same
week when the did the Child had started And it
was amazing to city dynamic between the men responses in
the comments as opposed to the women's responses and the
women saying, oh, she's a victim and the men said,
oh she wanted it.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
You got a let you know what I mean. And
then that's interesting and the timing of this, and I saw,
since we have the seven call from the feed, well
jump right into it. You posted what somebody commented, That's
why a lot of your female is gonna be oh,
single and miserable. Texting calling first is not a man thing.
If you're interested in each other and trying to get

(03:30):
to know each other, anyone can text first. Texting calling
is not chasing female keeper the female singer with them
fuckery standards and rules. Now tell me, because you said,
do you agree with this perspective? I want to know
what your thoughts are about that. Because you posted it
and somebody left that comment.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I posted it because he left it. Another posts okay,
and I was in the middle about it because I
was just like, it shouldn't be a male or female thing,
you know what I mean? Texting our colleagues to be
a male or female thing. Like we're not kids, So
if we like each other, like we should just want
to talk to each other all the time. And not
only that, but if we're taking it a step farther back.

(04:06):
The same man, your grandfather, your great grandfather, he had
to text our callers, speak or ask for your grandmother's
hand in marriage. So what are you saying? You know
what I mean? What are you really saying?

Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know? That's interesting. I was watching this movie right
it's called Together with Deve Franco and Alison Brie, his wife,
and they did a movie together. It's a horror movie.
But in the movie it's something I never thought about.
She proposed to him in front of their friends and
it was a disaster, Like he was mortified. It just

(04:38):
didn't go well. Everybody was looking like, what is going
on right here? I was telling them. I was like,
I used to always think like, all right, you know,
I'm a very like liberal woman, but I also could
see why even a man, a man should be like ooh,
I don't want that, yeah, you know, but something I
want to be proposed to. Nowadays, I feel like they

(04:58):
do what I mean, Traditions, I feel must be a tradition. Yes, okay,
in some traditions I feel must just be lift as tradition.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Understand that we're liberal. I understand that, you know, we're
living our world nowhere. There there are no lines basically,
but I feel like, you know, certain things like even
that's you know what I mean, there's certain things that
you want as a woman, there's certain things that make
you feel.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well finistic start, what are some traditions that you like?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
So you know, a lot of people have issues about
gender roles. For me, I feel like there's some gender
roles that I want to apply to my relationship because
that's my preference.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
So do I feel like the man needs to be
chivalrous and opening doors and taking care of certain things?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I really do?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
We know, I don't want to pay for any dates.
I went on a date and went shopping recently and
I paid for an uber okay, and he was like,
why are you even doing that? And I was like,
I need that.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I feel good.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
I need that type of energy that's going to let
me feel like you said, safe but feminine. M I
read this article recently about It was from a man
which I was impressed by, and he was saying, how
whoever's the baby in the relationship makes the other person
obviously baby them. So if a man is acting like

(06:13):
a child, that puts us in a mother situation instead
of the other way around, when we're supposed to be
the ones protected. So we went to daddy, So, what
do you think your role as a woman Since we're
talking about the man's role for you, What is your
role as a woman then, I mean, I think all
relationships should be based on an understanding of friendship. I
think that's very important to me. I think providing that

(06:35):
support a lending ear. I'm not a housewife, but I'll
make sure some things are in order. But I'm definitely
still going to maintain my independence at all time. But
I think it's just providing a safe space to be
vulnerable in. I feel like men don't have that a lot.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay, so that what about you, g What do you
think I'm both the man and the woman.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, I'm really in the Probably one of the only
ways of me being traditional might be with gender roles,
because I really feel like there's certain things when it
comes to the relationship, the household, the marriage that the
men should do and the women should do, like, for instance,
cooking clean in household chores. You know, I think that
women should be responsible for laundry, men should be responsible for.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Trash, just like keeping like things like that and do
that at home. Yeah, only my man be messing my
laundry up. Yeah, they don't really know what I'm doing
him touching my stef.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
I don't really know what I do when it comes to that,
and I'm not trying to pick up no heavy, stinky
trash right and have to deal with that. So and
then when it comes to like, of course I agree
with Jordan and I don't want to pay for no
dates or trips, and the words of our friend Alex,
I'll pay for breakfast and birthdays. That's probably about it.

(07:43):
But when it comes to like with this article, was
with this text message with a message was saying, with
texting first and calling first and all of that, I
definitely feel like it should be like a reciprocal thing,
not who should do it first. It should be if
I want to hear from you, then I'm gonna reach
out and tell you. If I miss you, I'm a
reach out you. If I want to check on you,
how was your day? How are you feeling, I'm gonna reach
out and tell you. It shouldn't be oh, you didn't

(08:04):
text me, so I'm not going to text you type
of thing like I think that's very childish.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
But for you, tif what would you say? Are the
things that you're like? These are the norms that I
actually like today that I want to keep applying to myself.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, it would be a merger between these two. But
as I said, I grew up in a hoshel weird.
If I saw my mom like do the mommy things
like get up, make breakfast, you know what I mean,
take care of us. I saw my dad, my stepdad
will be like here here's the money, like go, spend, go,
you know, take care of the But I also saw
them like, Okay, I know you've been tired. I know
you went to PTA, I know you've been doing this. Okay,

(08:38):
let me take schooler up this morning.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Because in anything you need, as you said, reciprocity and balance,
you know what I mean. Not only because I'm much
of means Okay, here's some money, but where I can
step in a step in, the same thing with my mom,
where she could step in where the business was concerned,
she stepped in us. So I think it's just it's
just it's just a balance and reciprocity.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, it's interesting because for me, I feel like I've
always been used to like paying for things and so
but I realized that, like my man hated, I always
am like quick to be like, oh, you know, pull
out my card and everything. So sometimes I do have
to step back and let that happen. I also don't
like when guys walk on the inside. It don't even

(09:19):
have to be my man, like just any guy if
he's walking down the black with you. I don't know
why that matters to me, but I do feel like
it's weird when I'm walking on the outside and the
guy's not like, hold on, get on the inside. That's
a former protect Greeds Form Protection agreed. I just know
because guys are going to be listening like, well, what
do y'all have to do for us? You know what
I'm saying, And I know people guys think about that

(09:41):
because we're there. I just want us to stop the
nying like we're there for you. We are there, well
you know listen. I also think that in a relationship,
sometimes my man is my assistant and sometimes I'm his
assistant depending on what's going on, you know, Because there's
definitely times when I know that, like I'm very kind,
just the fact that I do a lot of stuff

(10:02):
and I know that it could be sometimes hard. So
I try to make sure that there's times that I
step back and I could be like, what do you
need help with? Because I do feel like a lot
of times, I'm always like running around, coming me here,
coming me here, do this with me? Can you help
me with this? Can you do me a favor and
do this? I need to also sometimes be like, well
what can I.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Do for you? You know?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
So now I got to ask you this because for
you were engaged last year, but now it seems that
you're single.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I am single.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
What wasn't that happen?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You know what, not everybody can deal with the public,
Not everybody can deal with social media. He was cool
with it at first, but you know, when the blocks
pick it up and people start eating it, you know.
I mean, I'm used to it because I've been dealing
with it for years. But it was, Yeah, he was
offended by some things, and then exits started to pop up.

(10:56):
People were upset because you.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Know, his ex'es are yours, he's.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
But the issues really started with you know, damn them, like,
you know, they wanted to comment certain things on my page,
like oh, you're not his type.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Peop were upset because he knelt for me. He didn'
kneel for like. It was just a whole bunch of
and I was just like, you know, let me cut
my lasses, like I see where this is going. And
great guy, you know, was still cool and everything, but
I just don't think that he was ready to be
with somebody.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Like me, right, I mean, that's a strong personality and
it is I thought, you know too, entertainers yours, you know,
music together.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, I mean he I mean he does music, but
he's not as he's not as far along.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's why people were like, is he trying to get
on exactly?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
So you know what I mean, And he wasn't really
you know what I mean. He has a career of
his own in finance, he's very decorated in the military,
you know what I mean, and he was just not
ready for the real everything everything, and it just it
came hitting all at once, you know what I mean.
And it was just a lot for him. They already
so for a PTSD, you know what I mean, like

(12:02):
being in the military, like.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
So, oh that's something to think about exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
So you know what I mean. It just got to
a point where before your glitch, let me just you
know what I mean, let's just you know, it's still cool,
but it's not. Yeah, I was sudden bite. He sudden bite, but.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
You never know though this was already spend the black
situation was.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm a sattist, so you know it's time, like you
know what I mean, like like it just it has
gotten to the point now where you know, let's just
nip it in the boat and keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well this you're still able to be cordial? Yah, because
who else is cordial with their Yeah, listen for some
them get them guys though they be wanting to lock
you down.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yes, yes, it's about it's about control with me because
I am as much as I'm a girl, I'm one
of the guys. So most of my close friends are guys,
you know, I mean, like my best friends are like guys.
So it's a boat. So I kind of operate like
a guy even though I'm a girl. Say that exactly,

(13:13):
Say it's always been about Okay, then how do we
lock her down? How do I tame her?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
But we can't be tamed?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Has there ever been an issue in your relationships with
your significant get other feeling a way that you have
so many male friends because you.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Know how they say that, Yes, yes, you navigated through that.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I've been asked before, why do you have so many?
Like they took my phone search my phone. Why do
you have so many men in your phone?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Asked about that it's a male dominated feel that you're exactly.
I've had people you can't be successful doing what you
do with without working with men. It's unfortunate, but it's
the truth.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I've had one guy be like, Okay, I'm going to
do this because a prominent like business mine. He's like,
I'm going to do this. And when I do this
and made this money, you're going to take this money
and leave the industry want.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
It?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I don't want it in the industry, you know what
I mean? But would you be okay with that if
it was again reciprocity, if it was being reciprocated like
you don't you can't expect to luck me down like furniture.
But then you're outside, you.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
You you know what I mean, Like it has to
be some reciprocity, like you can't believe in like you're sixteen,
and then you don't want me to be in the
house like a figurine or like a statuere like no
that you know, there was.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
A period of time when it did feel like you
were ready to walk away right and not do this anymore,
so you would have been okay with saying on.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
My terms, Yeah, on your terms, on my term. But like,
I wasn't about to leave the industry for no man,
Like you know what I mean, especially especially nowhere, even
in friendships, people are just fickle. People are so fickle
and you never know, you know what I mean, And
you can promise me the world today and I'm the
princess today and your queen today, and then tomorrow it's
about somebody else. Like I wasn't about to walk away

(14:56):
from my dream, no man, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Tell you, I was making sure this is still your dream,
because sometimes it's something that you're great at and you're
used to and you're doing.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
But all right, some most some people hate the pandemic,
but I sometimes I miss it because it was I
moved to America right when you know, the whole industry
thing was going on with me, and I was just like,
you know, let me take a step back a little bit,
and I moved to Florida. And then the pandemic happened
after that, and Florida was kind of open. I started like, yeah,

(15:32):
like I moved to a place where it's like a
little cowboys, like I literally can't drive two black start
left by hey, you know what I mean? Like by yeah,
it's parties and multiple horses in there, you know what
I mean. So it wasn't about Tifa or it was
about Latifa, miss Brown, like I would be a regular person,
and I think moving and just beginning to love myself again.

(15:53):
And then the pandemic up and then you know, everybody
was in the house by and stuff on Amazon. So
I've got like a like a home studio, Like I
literally was in the host recording and writing, and like,
I literally fell in love with the process again, because
it's never there the music that's the problem, and it's
the people, right, So I literally fell in love with
the actual music again. And it's like, what are you doing?

(16:15):
And then it became that, as you said, Florida was open.
People were doing shows, and an agent, you know, she
linked me. She was like, so and so and so
are doing shows and aren't you doing shows? And I'm like,
people want to see me? Like you know what I mean,
because I was I was so hurt. I thought like,
like nobody wanted to see me, no way, it was
just it was it was horrible. It was like why

(16:36):
did you because it was like opperation take down, Like
you have to remember, I know when I started doing
this music thing, dance artists didn't look like me, right,
you know what I mean? It was probably like maybe
maybe Attama Chin. I had an Upton address what you
guys would call the suburbs typically like if you rap,

(16:56):
if you if you're a DJ, you would come from
the trenches like I even though I came from the changes,
like my grandmother had like the biggest restaurant Dotown, you
know what I mean. So it wasn't it wasn't the typical.
Then the barter with my pearents was if you want
to do this music thing, you have to go to college.
So I had a degree. So as a Dante artist
with a degree, it wasn't the typical.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
But you know how many relate to that too, because no, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Then know like and then they wanted you to just
a particular way speak a particularly sing about particular things.
And I was just like, listen, I'm going to do this.
I'm going to sing about life, you know what I mean,
because irrespective, I'm Jamaica, and of course, but life is
much more than that, really, whoa, you know what I mean?

(17:44):
That was much more, you know what I mean. I
wanted to do the things, and a lot of persons
weren't key to that, like, you know, she's trying to
change the culture, she's trying to change. And then again
I could speak and I was educated. So then carpet
Jamaica began to take over this sphere of what dancer
and readio music was and they're like, we want this girl.
So then I ended up there's a bunch of endorsements.

(18:06):
A lot of people didn't understand it. Why her, Why
are you going to put a handicap light skin girl
and a billboard? You know what I mean with you know,
the situation with my bone disease and my legs. But
they didn't understand that it was a plus for me
and a pler sudden because you could put me in
a school to administer to teams and girls, and then
you could also put me in the dancer to do
the same lad real boy, and it connected a lot

(18:28):
of people never understood that. I never really exactly so
it was just like public enemy number one, you know
what I mean. And I was just at that point,
I was just so tired and she sits on a
carpet empire. We want this now, okay, we see what
she can do. And it was literally operation and taped
don't And I was just like, oh my god, like
I can't understand you want you know, other people to

(18:49):
come into space or you know what I mean, But don't,
don't play my legacy. Don't don't play the word that
I've done. Don't don't play the barriers that I've broken.
And I was just so hurt, right, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
So even so in the beginning for you, when you
first you know, started and really like people caught on
to you, that was a better time period for you though,
because it was was it just about.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
It, you know what, It's crazy, it was it was better.
You know, you got the discouragement because you got the
discouragement because you know, people told me you should write.
You're a good writer, you should write. You don't think
the typical description about a dance artist is and then
remember my parents sent me to school. My stepfather is

(19:32):
the person that broke Ladysa. He has his Diamonda's records,
like he's the person that brought Lady Start to the
world exactly. And I did not piggyback on that. Because
I was supposed to be a psychologist, as supposed to
go to college, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I had to do it.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I had to prove myself on my own. But then
I started to figure things out, you know what I mean,
I started to like apply the host so, like, people
don't even understand. When I got my first endorsement, it
was even like on the premise of being tea for
the artists, they paid me as a model. But I'm like, Okay,
I'm gonna have billboards in all of Jamaica. I'm gonna

(20:08):
have all of these readers as I can pay for.
I'm gonna have all of these newspapers as I can
pay for. Like I literally just use that to pimp
the game, promote my son, you know what I mean,
and then to get my big break. But if people
were like, nah, that's a big company, like they should
be paying you, and I'm like, yo, you don't understand
the value of taking a little bit less, yeah, to
get you know what I mean else, So they didn't

(20:30):
understand the business again again, because you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
They like, everything's not just about money exactly. Yeah, So
it was a little bit better. And then social media
wasn't about like it was about was.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
It wasn't like, yeah we had Facebook, we had It
wasn't like now where if you drop your cup it's
on shame, wake up, you know. So like it was,
it was a little bit different. And I like the
fact that like I broke like going to the parties
at night, washing the one shirt with one pro my shirt,

(21:00):
sleeping in the day and going to another party that
the Chenogemica party seven days, you know what I mean.
So it was it was somewhat a little bit easier,
somewhat okay. And then Soco at the time from More
twenty one familiar with Souco Soco at the time from
More twenty one because at the time we have we
had a juggling culture. So you have like eight people
on the same rythm, the same beat, and if you

(21:23):
weren't exceptional or you were like a ladist or Antania students,
you wouldn't hear yourself on the bait. So Soco came
up with this idea that okay, let me do our
female juggling reading because them you're sitting and necessarily how
I got my start, like myself Timberly with bubble like
soup that's still viral up to today, you know what
I mean. The Angel a whole bunch of us that

(21:44):
were on it. That's how we really got our starts.
It's a little bit easier now with social media because
you can you know, you can't.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Go for it. I feel like Dancer and is really
having a time right now more than ever. Yeah, because
you know, I've always loved Dancer and there's people that
have for a period of times said that only the
only like the old school stuff, you know, and the
classic dance our songs and back in like the nineties.
But I feel like now seeing everybody selling our shows,
going on tour, it's big. Isn't the fact that people

(22:13):
are mad about this song?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
It's a double edged sword because when you're really thinking
about it, VI has come back into the space, Buju
has come back into the spaces from the nineties. Be
I have gotten back their visas that's from the nineties,
you know what I mean. Yeah, So though, I mean,
I love a lot of the younger acts are coming up,
but a lot of them broke in the pandemic, so

(22:35):
they didn't really get to tour tour, and you know,
friends are really people like they broke on live, you
know what I mean. So they have a lot of
learning to do in terms of performing as opposed to
the Binnie, the Bounty, the Boujo that, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
What I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
They came through the right passage, so that's helping. I know,
people realize that they're doing better songs where people like
Russian that is already you know what I mean, and
started but the juggling culture last year. So I think
a combination of all of those fucked us are helping
to push the genre right.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
No, right now, listen. I gotta ask you because I
know you're the lord of the rings. Oh God, and
I know you said listen, being a single is not
necessarily your choice. You would much better than that.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, I don't mind. Yeah, of course everybody wants to
be loved and touched. Toys can do so much.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Are you dating?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I kind of what.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Are you looking for? If you had to say, like,
you know, these are the qualities, and we're going to
go around the room and we talk about I want
a man, all right. I want us to all lists
what we want when we say I want a man,
So you think about it. Because I don't just say
what you said on a song.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
No no, no, no no, I'm going to tell you
for really real.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Good hygiene is the first gene because the perfect.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Flaws we needed a flaw us.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I don't need knows to be yeah, because I'm a
very like sensual, sexual, touchy feeling exactly, and there are
people that don't be Remember this whole conversation that we're like, Oh,
I don't bad for a week, like I needed to
have good gen. I like somebody that can make my laugh.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
I love a comedon. I love somebody that you know
doesn't take you know, things too seriously, and you know
that can laugh and joke about but also like an
educated man. So we can laugh about the tequila about
at the same time, we can talk about world issues
and we can plan, you know exactly. You know what
I mean. We can laugh about other things than your
red bottoms are how many battles your but you know
what I mean. I like somebody that is money, savy,

(24:41):
and ambitious. I like, I'm a can dress.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
What about looks?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I don't have a type. Okay, I don't have a
type it per se. I just talked to her, I like,
none of my exes are the same. M hm, yeah,
I don't have a type.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
What about bedroom?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
And I am very sex prejudice if that's a thing.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
What does that mean? Prejudice means that sounds like a
song in the South?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Okay, that you did. I am very sexually prejudiced, like
if I'm not about to stay with you because you
have money, but the sex is terrible? Oh okay, sex
has to be good like the sex like has to
be like I just want that one person to be
freaking nasty with, but it has to be good, like
I have to be comfortable, like I'm not going to
compromise and the sex at all.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Okay, because you know, there's all these movements about Jamaican
men and we've already done that. Yeah, is that important
to you?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Head? Yeah, it's twenty twenty five, Like who's doing.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Still trying to act like and you know what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
You will talk to other women and they will tell you, oh,
the best head I got was from a Jamaica.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
You said that before that the first head I got.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Dot tell nobody the best head you get this fromman? Like,
come on, fine, but sorry, don't tell.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Nobody feel like they just can't because it's culture.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
What about for women right and not now and down
and all of that, Like was that something that you
felt like you couldn't do? No, I don't tell about it.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I mean, That's what I said. I And this is
why I'm very selective about even my partners when it comes.
I'm like, I'm not one of those women that like
run into your sexuals because I want to get to
know you're, like, you know what I mean, have to
check your fingers as certain question you know what I mean.
I want to ask you certain questions like what turns
it on? Like you know what I mean. I want
to know that we're equally your sex. I'm going to

(26:38):
share this body video like I think people just take sex.
I'm gonna know. I'm more like, I want to know
what turns on, what makes a tick, and if we
don't align, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Turns what turns you on?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It can be the simplest thing, okay, it like if
I'm attracted to you, it can just be a smile
at me. I just want to take closees off you. You
know what I mean? If I much tracked it to you,
like you literally don't have to do nothing like gree
and free and I'm gonna be like.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Chemistry when you fas somebody, somebody could be very attractive,
but there could be no chemistry, and somebody could be
not traditionally attractive and you could be like this is it?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, Like I'm all for like I want, I want.
I just think that life is too short to waste
it on bad sex.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I agree that, But how long does that research process
last for you?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
But it depends, like because you can literally just have
the coversation shot like a couple of years, a week,
two weeks. It just depends on how open again, how
open that person is, because some people like they're freaks,
but you know they take time to pull it out
of them, you know what I mean. And you find
that the quiet ones usually the quiet ones, they are

(27:52):
the freakiest ones, right, they're like, You're like, so you
had it in you like you made a.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Wait, let me ask you this. Have you ever like
thought something was going to be good? What like what's
a bad experience to you? Because you know we're talking
about like the sex has to be right and sometimes
you can't tell until you actually do it, and then.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
You're like I usually know what to pick them, but
what tips you are? But once when but like when
I was just starting, you know, you're just you. You
know when I just started, it was yeah. But like
I'm Jamaica, We're gonna go. I'm gonna rub up on you.
I'm gonna see what you're working with it. I'm gonna say,
you know, you're we smooth. I'm gonna I want you
to underson. I want to kid someone like I'm gonna

(28:35):
put myself in like I'm the type of person I
rob a boob on you just to see how you're
But usually I know who to pick them, like I had,
like like earlier on like when I just started this journey,

(28:55):
like I had like one bad experience.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well we're made it bad. I want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
It was very quick.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
You know, he can't get a second chance because sometimes
you know, they'd be nervous very quick.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
And it was it was the stubbing and it wasn't courage.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's daggering.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, and it was Yeah, it was just nuts. It
was just not good.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
At what's the worst sex experience.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
That it's the jack rabbiting. I hate that, Yeah, I
hate the rabbit movement. It's just like childish to me, right, and.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
It followed by the lord grunt lord, and you just
kind of be laying there like what the fuck? Literally,
have you ever rolled your eyes during sex? Like what?
I'm pretty sure I had. G What's your worst experience?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Probably the time that I never even got to feel
the penis because he orgasm before I like one lick
and it was just like, Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Did you feel like though maybe powerful in that moment?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
I did, but I mean I was attempting to do it,
so it's just like you let me down in that
moment and we never did it.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
He couldn't even go again because I feel like if
I gotten was over.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
It after that, like literally I pulled it out and
attempted to like give him here and I like licked
from the bottom up and he just like came on
my hand and I was just like.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh, do you apologize?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
He did, but he the apology wasn't enough for him
to get a REALM two.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
We'll probably say that was the worst because it never happened. Yeah,
I'm sorry. I want Jordan to open this bottle. Oh yeah,
pop this bottle because we got to celebrate, you know what,
I mean, you know, we got to sell it. First
of all, I'm not mad at you for doing a
sign that made people mad. I think that's good. That's
a positive thing.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
I even try to like make the people mad. They
just got mad, right.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
That. Did you anticipate that?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
And you know some people were going to like have
like you know, like I was gonna have some backlash,
you know, in terms of standing up for a woman,
especially like no, in Jamaica it's seventy I think it's
seventy five percent paternity fraud. Oh wow, yeah, so they've
been giving me that like Morris sure would be having
like a blasting, right whoa somebody blessings that's what happened

(31:11):
to Yeah, there's been like that's wild. Yeah, like crazy.
So at least at least at least at least least
at least men don't give jackets. At least we don't
give the wrong kids to the wrong man, you know
what I mean. So that I've been having that robot.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Like wow, yeah, that's so. I got to ask you, so,
how many times have you been engaged? Like three and
a half three and a half half, Right, I.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Wasn't sure if it happened like you know it happened
with you. Wasn't sure if it was a proposal, it
was a promise, it was a but it.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Was so that counts yeah, support times all right. So
the first time you were engaged at over you.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's pretty young, like twenty three.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, so what happened with that?

Speaker 2 (32:03):
It fizzled. He was strange.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
She liked to say yes, but you caught off guy.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I think I think that's what it is. I think
I don't want people to feel bad. That's what I
always say.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, especially if it's in front of people.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I've been coming to terms with that. I think that's
what it is. But with that guy in particular, he
just became very obsessive and he tattooed my name on
his thing.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
What yeah, slow down out, I got some tattoos. I
actually had tattoo there too, But.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
It became ubsessive. It became like weird and obsessive.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Here's a good pussy. Let me tell you something. This
man that got his your name tattooed on his thing,
your phone name Latifa or just I was gonna say
I wanted because if it was a phone name, that's
big like at the top or where where like shaft,

(32:57):
that's painful, and who did that tattoo? Right, Well, it
has to look different when it's when it's nice, right,
That's what I was doing because.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
When it was he was a different character. He was fun.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
That sounds w and it it takes some pain.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
I think.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
I think because as I said, there's a process in
the beginning, and we're getting to know each other, and
we're getting to know the kings, and the conversation is nice,
and it will end up it's like almost end up
falling immediately because of the conversation and our interests and
you know what I mean. And then the sex happens
because clearly we are aligned sexually, and then the sex
is great, and then it becomes a thing, you know

(33:35):
what I mean. I think that's what always happens.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I can't believe he did that. I'm just thinking about
how painful that could be. And then also like the scab,
and then like we said, when it's limb, was he
a shower or a grower? Did you know he was
going to do it? Did he surprise you with it?
He just pulled it out one day, like look, baby,
look what I did. Did you feel like that was love.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
It scared me. It scared me, and the way it
was a long destide because he was from here and
I was living in Jerminicatta time.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Okay, it was weird.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I don't know. It was weird, kind of like I'm
scared for you.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
It seem like a fully tattooed man. Though, yeah he's
got okay, he said, this is only space left not know.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I probably saw him maybe ten years ago. I don't
know where he is. I don't know what he's doing.
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Well, how did y'all break up?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
And why? Why did we not? I want? I as
thinking it was because, of course, men are greedy and one,
how are you.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Gonna have another woman with my name tattooed on your dick?
That's crazy. Imagine you were with a guy and you
went to go suck it and you saw someone else's name.
I don't know. I don't even think I would have
seen it.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
They do it like men are strange.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know, before anything, you're supposed to with the lights on,
literally do an inspection the same way men do the
touch and smell on the little tests. You gotta do that.
Let me gotta do it.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Would have put it together, but those are that's a tattoo.
I just don't think my mind would have on there
and told this moment Now, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I've heard a tattoo on the inside of the lips. Yeah,
but you put it there, but it needs stan it's crazy. Wow.
Let me, have you ever dated a white guy? I
want to because I'm gonna tell you this, so Jordan
and you have one of my friends get on a
dating app. Yes, And she said a lot of white
guys have been hitting her up and she's never dated
a white guy.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I want to have. I never have, but I want to.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Why do you want to just think?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I just I get out of such a terms and
I'd love to try different things. I just wanted to experience.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
I had some great experiences with the white guys. Never did.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
They were all older though I never had like the
same age. We're younger than me.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
She said, it's a lot of older white guys.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Said maybe maybe I've had friends that's so like you
know what I mean was mind? What's it called? She
got daddes not come that's different though that's actual thing.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I know. I know.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
The day didn't know it kind of weird, but they
like they treat women like, yeah, I think I wanted
to try it. I've never tried it.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Chinese?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
You have is that Chinese?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
But you know it's hard.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
They always say that Asian people have the smallest dick,
but he has had the biggest one thus far.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
But shout out to us, Wow, well you know I
want to have an Asian husband. Crazy, let's you know, babies.
I've never been with a Chinese guy, and I've always
felt like bad for us because I know people say that.
So you know, so I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
You know he was actually the biggest one thus far,
He's been the biggest one.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I can't believe you did. Yeah, well, I guess it's
a lot of Chinese people in Jamaica. That's name when I.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Was always I'm so glad. I want to, like I
want to experience. Mostly are like, oh, I don't want to.
I don't want to date outside my culture because then
I have to explain what is color lo what is planting?

(37:06):
And I'm like, well, he was Chinese Jamaican, but you
could get white, of course, But I don't care, Like,
I just want the experience of you to be something different.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
I can't believe that was the biggest Let me ask
you this. Have you ever had somebody that was too big?
That just wow? So what happened?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
So he had to wear our ring? Yeah, he had
to wear a ring so all of it couldn't go
inside because if all of it like went inside, it
would like like destroy. To wear a ring at the
point like yeah, yeah, he had to have like a stupper.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
That's crazy. I think.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Most like he did mostly like fellowshi. So he was
the one that put me onto the fact that like
when you have strawberries, the taste that's even the taste,
but the sensation is greater because of the seed the seeds.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
So he's like when it comes down to.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Did you did you feel like I want to try
to put the whole thing in or was it painful.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
When I started? Was like what We spoke about it
and he told me, like, you know, the doctor gave
him the ring, ring, all of it, all of it,
because it's it's like huge.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Was it exciting for you? Like tire?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
So yeah, of course I'm going to be intriguing. I
want to see it. I want you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Did you attempt to perform Filicia.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, but you couldn't do it never, It wasn't it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Wasn't it to be for a guy because he can't
never get like, yeah, experience only used part of it.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
You have to, like because I wanted to see it,
like you, so you have to wear a ring. He's like,
you have to wear a ring because if all of
it goes inside, You're like, it's over for you, destroy
your inside.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Do you know that there's a surgery where men can
get a penis reduction enlargement but not un so I
recently learned this. I literally I think like yeah, yeah, yesterday,
so there's a she's been going viral on Instagram. She's
from Houston, and she's very loud and proud about her
you know, both having both yeah and scrolling yesterday I

(39:20):
kind of went down a deep dive of her because
I was intrigued by her saying that she's about to
have a penis reduction and her reason for it, because
she not physically shows, but through the pants and through
the print, we can see that it's actually really large
and that she got like big sits in the big
dick and there's a vagina up underneath where the balls

(39:40):
would be, and she says that she's been more in
touch with her feminine side and that she's dressing more feminine.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
But then a brushia air come by.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
And now she's like, you know, and she's like it's
She's like, so she is in the process of getting
having a to have surgery to get it not.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Removed, but because it's just too big.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Can you imagine, Wow, he's traveling around with this ring
at all times, just in case, or he just has
it at home or.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
When she's intrigue battertration just when when he was our
own me. I don't know if he took it off
like we didn't live together. If when you went to yeah,
have you ever lived with anyone? No, he made a
face like I don't know. No. Again, I'm such a

(40:37):
tires So I want to feel like I'm in a relationship,
but I also want to I want space. Is that weird?

Speaker 3 (40:44):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
You travel a lot, though, so you get so you're
gonna have space regardless. Can you see yourself with somebody
else in the business. I mean, you've done it before,
but is that what you think you would prefer?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Mm hmmmm, especially after having experience.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I don't like you think about just being with an
ordinary man and getting cheated on, like with an ordinary
man that cheated on with an entertain It's like it's
a completely like you're getting worldwide we love to call
it bone. You're getting a worldwide bone. I don't have
time for like a worldwide like. It's it's too much
like And then you have your friends that are in
the industry, you know, every time and again you have

(41:23):
to lie for them, you know what I mean, Like
you know what goes on, like I just.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Don't people.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Like you, and like you just don't I just don't
want to be I just don't want I just don't
want to. Like there's life is stressful as it is, yes,
and the less stress the better, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I was thinking about. You have this song with Noah
Poet in the video Wicked. Why are you laughing? We
can get no no choke. But you know, the way
you started off is kind of like it seems like

(42:03):
you're very direct when it comes to talking to men
and just being like I'm sorry, you know, sorry, not sorry.
I just don't love you.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
You know, as it is, I think life is just
much easier when you tell the truth. Yes, and I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Is that wicked though?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
They see it as wi kid, you know what I mean? Like, oh,
she like, can you believe she said? This is what
I'm telling me? You like, right, No, I know this
is not going to work. Or let's just call it
a day, you know what I mean? Why prolong it?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Communication is very important?

Speaker 2 (42:35):
You know what's weird? As much as I'm a sexual
person and I love text, I've never treated.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Okay, there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yes, I mean I've never I'd rather to just like
if I feel like I want to cheat and I
break up.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
With you, Like, what's the longest relationship you've been in,
like three years?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Three going four years?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, so I've never liked you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
I've never seen the reason to be taking too penises
at once. That's just me. That's just my preference. Like,
I don't. I'm not judging anybody else because I have
friends that are very liberal, you know what I mean,
And that's their thing.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I don't know that cheating is a liberal thing. I
think it's but being honest.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
And currently sleeping with multiple men, you know that's not
technically cheating.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I personally, I guess because I have a spiritual aside. Also,
I personally just I just don't. As I said, I
just want that one person. And I'd be like, Okay,
let's go down this rabbit hole together, you know what
I mean. So if I feel like it's not working,
or if I feel like I rather dous ended, no, like,
let's just call it.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
But what about sometimes you got to ride through the
bad times because it's always going to be times, and
it feels like it's not working for a moment, I
would think, you know what it is? Like how you
know it's not a glitch and it's you know that.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I think I was traumatized by probably a relationship or
two myself, and probably even other relationships that I've seen
from like aunts and other persons where you know, ride
or die and you know they're taught to stick it out.
They're taught, you know, it's about the family and till
death do was part. And then you're getting treated and
you're getting beaten, you're getting you know what I mean.

(44:09):
And I just knew that, and especially when I had
my first heartbreak, I knew that I never wanted to
feel that way again. And I knew that I never
wanted that for myself. And I think that's why I
even though I have not had a child yet, because
I knew certain things I didn't want to feel or
go through.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
What was your first heartbreak?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
My first heartbreak? I think my first real heartbreak was
I was with a guy and it's the first and
the only time I had gotten pregnant. And most people
would lose like a Kida last twins and it was
just a very traumatic experience. I mean, like I had
one was EP topic, the other one was in the stomach,
and then when the EP topic one, you know, they

(44:48):
got rid of that one, this one developed a heart beat.
But by the time this one developed a heart beat,
it was just weird, Like I couldn't and he thought
that I didn't want to because of my career, and
you know, he was just being selfish, and he was
very angry at me because I always didn't want to
have my kids, and I'm like, brom, I literally almost died,
you know what I mean. I wanted to find out
that somebody else was pregnant for him, and I like,

(45:09):
I think because of that, it has made me somewhat
of Arona it's like the first sign of because I know,
like losing my twins, Like I slept with my mom
for three months, and I was like a woman, you
know what I mean. I just know that I never
wanted to go through that again. And I think that's
why I'm the way I am. And it's like when

(45:29):
I see something now because I was sticking it out
with you, you know what I mean. He had his flowers,
he was you know, he was nice, but he had
his flowers or whatever. And I was just like to
know that I invested my time and my energy and
my efforts and then this none and I had to
go through with.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
My mom because he should have been even more there
something like that, and then.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I had to watch y'all like have the baby.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I just never wanted to go through something like that,
like you know what I mean. And you know, you
see your aunts, you see you know, you're all cousins
go through things. I just knew I never wanted that
for myself again. And I just knew that nobody was
ever gonna make me feel that way ever again.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Wow. So that's something that happened that affected you to
this day. Really, Yeah, like you ain't ever live with nobody.
You're quick to walk away if you feel like it's
not gonna work. That's been a week. I'm gonna leave
it too bad. But I ain't staying alone, you know
what I mean, I can't. That happened.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Now, that's that's dramatic, you know it is, but it happens.
And like that, women go, yeah, they do, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (46:31):
And I just knew. And for anybody, you would want
somebody to be there for you when something like that
has happened. Of course. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
And he was he literally like it was at the
time when my career was taken off. He literally thought
that I was just telling him this because I didn't
I didn't want to have his kids and I just
wanted to focus on my career.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
First of all, the topic pregnancy is very serious. It
can be deadly. You could lose a lot of blood,
it can rupture.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
It's so many I've been through it twice, so there's
so many things that can happen with it, and it's
actually very painful. It is.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Listen, when I walked into that doctor's office and she
told me, like, you know, climb up on the thing.
She's like if you had waited a day later, you're
probably been dead. Same because it was growing, like I
didn't even know always I didn't think.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I was like, I think I went to the doctor too,
because imagine you want to went to get your check out.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, invasive, mind, I would have very that. But she's
very invasive. And I was living in her at the time,
and she's like, I don't see any paths in the trash,
like what's happening.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
As you're gonna be big too?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Like early, Yeah, it was sweating, but I was just thinking,
you know me, you know what I mean. So it
was just a very it was a very traumatic experience.
And I think your therapy, you guys, are therapy because
I've like I've really talked about this openly. I think
that's why I'm the way. I know, like I never
wanted abody to make me feel that way again.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Right, you know I and I sympathize that. And I
do want to say though that I always have to
look at it like this, like any relationship or anything
you do is going to be a risk, Like it
could be the best thing if you take a chance,
and it could be the worst thing if you take
a chance. But the worst thing is to not take
a chance. You know what I'm saying, I apologize those students. Yeah,

(48:10):
oh that's what he reached out and he apologized, like
you know, I was being you know, selfie show is
being so you know, yeah, you know, because I don't
you think that like any And I think it's like
a shame to never experience like giving something you're all
just because we're scared because I think it's scary, but
for your sometimes sometimes being scared is fun.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yes, And.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
In our career and in our relationships, like can happen
when you just like fuck it? The worst thing is
it don't work.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
I think, well, I'm like just the first time opening
I think probably two nights things. I was looking through
a lot of old pictures and it's like, you know what,
I think I probably need some therapy because when you
I was I was born in a bone disease card
Blown's disease one inn there was sixteen million that has
When my mom was like six months pregnant, a scarpion

(49:05):
stunger in the neighbor where the Umbilica card was so poisoner,
a poison me affected, teeth affected, feet affected. I've had
dream like surgeries. But like growing up like that, I
wasn't like I didn't I didn't experience being different until
I came out of the horse and when I came
onto the house, it was it was a lot of
teasing and it was a lot like I've had people

(49:26):
like spit out my car because as we're in a
skirt and whole dere you wear a skirt and you
know you walk like that. So it's a lot of
traumatic things that have happened. And you know what I mean,
I've had to fight, I've had to you know, just
brush a lot of it to the side. And I
think that's why I've probably last it's a lot in
the industries because I'm like I've dealt with you know

(49:47):
what it is exactly, you know what I mean. So
I think for me personally, it's a lot of things
that you know, I need therapy with. But then when
that happened, that was just the end of it for me,
Like that just put the cherry on top of the
cake for me. Like every woman wants to, you know,
be pregnant and be pregnant for the man that they love,
and like I did love him at the time, you know,

(50:08):
what I mean. And then as I said, most women
would lose a child at last two once you know
what I mean. It was just like I was just
like you know, after everything I got through, like I know,
I never wanted to feel that way, and I like
that was when I got my big break to telling
it too, because I literally just challenge channeled everything into

(50:28):
being differ at the brand and you know what I mean.
Like you know, if you call me come, you want
to date me, fine, but if you're giving me too much,
trade it like bye, right, you know what I mean,
Like exactly, so I think I think personally and I
can admit this openly today I need therapy.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
But but really you're a superhero, Yes you are. Thank you,
you know because when we survive all of those things
and overcome all those obstacles and the fact that you
have been as successful as you have and people don't
even know this story, and I'm gonna be honest, you
telling us this today makes I want a man even
more powerful because it explains why it is that you

(51:06):
feel like you need somebody that can take care of you.
They can hold you down, that can stand up so
you could be soft and you can express yourself and
be vulnerable, and I do think that you're even telling
us this and we appreciate you for sharing that. It
also makes that song really resonate even more. Thank you,
you know, in ways that maybe even when you did it,
you probably didn't even think it very last, you know,

(51:27):
So that's dope. We appreciate that. And another song that
it makes resonate more is outside with Inside Warm you know, shit, no,
but honestly, I do appreciate that because I know that,
and even saying that you would like to do therapy,
I think that's a positive thing.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Absolutely definitely.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, So I feel like, you know, if there's ways
that we can support and help you in that, because
we do have better help as a sponsor, and maybe
there's ways you can even start off online and then
sometimes it's a process of like, yeah, finding who works
for you, but even just being able to talk. I mean,
I love that we had this conversation today because honestly,
you've been doing this for decades and that's nothing that

(52:07):
we take lightly. And I feel like I've never heard
this before, she said, it's the first time really being
open about it. So again, we do appreciate you for
sharing that space somebody you know, Well, is there anything
else that you want to make sure that we know
about because I know, like you said, you've had a
lot of ups and down Listen, you've you know, been

(52:27):
engaged broken up. Now we've known a lot about a
lot more things that.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
You but it's is I mean, just simplest typical things
that you got to read in the industry, You know
what I mean. You know, you know this is not
time exactly, you know, especially especially when you have our brain,
and especially when you know it's hard to take advantage
of you. So I have to comment you also, you
know what I mean, because it is not easy at all.

(52:52):
You know it's again because it's it's it's easy to
put people in positions when they do of our brain,
when it's easy to manipulate. Then when it's easy to
make more money off them because I don't have a brain,
you know what I mean. So minded, we could have
been further than where we are. But what do I
forgifts for where we are because we see and reach
and make an impact after soul, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
What I mean. I love that you say, because you
know my other shall way up with the angela ye
I called it that because I said, I'm way up
from where I first started, but I'm still.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
On my way away. Yeah, but what what does I
forgift tongs? Because at the end of the day, a
lot of persons have started with us. I'm not here.
Somebody was reminding me. I posted an old picture in
my stories, like, Yo, do you realize that from the
twenty tens, you are literally the only person that is
still doing this?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Right, Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
And I listen. I can attest to for especially in
this dance hall you know reggae field, how hard it
is for women like more than you know, just what
you've had to go through. I can't even imagine it is.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
So I mean, we're just grateful to still be here.
You know, we're gonna have, were gonna have with dons.
But they've created a least at this point because yeah,
you know what I mean, they've like you literally you
traumatize me and I'm still here, Like I've learned to
live with the traum and I've laughed at somebody. I
like somebody, you know what I mean, you you literally

(54:12):
built somebody for water right now, It's it's like, okay,
you're blocking this lright, this is what I'm gonna do. Okay,
you're stopping this. Okay, So this is what I'm gonna do. Okay,
I'm not gonna be at this event. Okay, so I'm
gonna create my own event.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
You're building this long enough where you kind of know
how to maneuver make things. You know it could be easier.
But at the same time, like, no, you have all
the tools where you're like, OK, I can handle this.
Let me just plan it, plan be plant. See. I
still I still have the same impact, you know what
I mean. So I can't even complain because I know

(54:43):
know that I'm gonna be there. I have been an
asset to somebody else, an asset to other women coming up,
even men coming up to you know what I mean. Like,
I have so much to share in terms of my
knowledge of music, in terms of my knowledge of the business,
in terms and the knowledge of and I can afford opportunit.
It is the others that maybe I can't, But I

(55:03):
can give it to somebody else, right, you know what
I mean? So just to be here now, fifteen years
yeah and singing, I want a man and to be
relevant and to be here because everybody, not everybody gets
to come and lip service coach, you know what I mean.
So just to be here, just you know what I mean,
it's a blessing. And to see all people like love
your after Salankas, trust me. People, especially in our culture

(55:26):
in American Counture Jamaican, we have somewhat of a pedophile culture.
It's about who's young, who's that like, oh that personal
yeah over there is And to just still have an
impact and be relevant and for people still to want
to have the conversation with you and hear your music
is just a blessing. So I'm just living it up
right now.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
We're good. We've got that. You've touched us today many ways,
so we appreciate you for that is there. And listen
for everybody who's listening right now, make sure y'all listen
to I want a man. We want you to tell
us what you're looking for. You know what I'm saying.
If you want a man and for a guys to
we cared about what you want of course, and.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
You know what, let's say because I want them to.
I want like, I want them to answer. I have
the robots already, I want ready, but I just want
to say this big up and much love to all
the good men out there, because there are good men
out there. We don't hat there, we don't hate you guys,
there are good fathers out there, you know what I mean.

(56:22):
And this, this song has nothing to go on about.
It live your happy lives, their happy wives. This is
nothing about you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
It's not even available. This is about.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
And it's funny because we could we could see the
talk here for days in terms of the conversation around
this song. Because when you really think about it, I
heard you say, you know you're so independent, and you
know you're Why is this because a lot of us
grew up with moms that are two and three jobs
and we had no choice to be independent. We had
no choice but to take care of our younger siblings,

(56:54):
but to wash, cook and clean. And then the boys,
our brothers would be in the house and all all
they have to do with the trash. Yeah, they will
go play play video games, are playing ball outside and
a lot of the men were babied.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
My mom still working to jazz. I've been telling her,
like chill out, and she I think she's so used
to it. She just won't start.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
But I know you have like six or seven Angela, Yeah,
I do have a few jobs, you know what I mean.
Came we had no choice but to become these independent women,
And a lot of that was because we have more money,
because we have our assets, because of our things, Like
we're just decided, Okay, I don't want to put up

(57:35):
with this. Like I can literally go and buy a
sex machine. It can't hug me, but it does the
same thing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I can't. I don't know if it does the same
I don't know. I mean I wanted to try, but
you know, I don't even need a machine. You could
just use your fingers.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
But a lot of women have just been opting to
not be bothered with us this type of shame. That's
a shame, just just in opting. And a lot of
men know because they're a baby, like they want you
to be their mom, Like I have no problem being
you know, your baby or baby in it, but as
a woman, like, I'm not gonna do the same things.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
A woman, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I don't want somebody that we're if you have an
argument the first person, mom, she said this, hell you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah, I don't like I miss.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
My dad's era, my stepdad's era when men were actually men.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yeah, you know what I mean. And like the same
thing you said, you just want to feel safe exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
You don't want to feel like he don't have to
have as much money as you. But as long as
you know what I mean, you come home and he's like, baby,
you know your work so hard, Maronia bathwater, let me
rub your feet. You know, I made dinner, or I
got your gift shirt, like, you know, go go get
her money, peny, Like he doesn't necessarily have half, Like
if you make a million, you know, I have make
three million, you knowing. But it's just the thought that

(58:52):
content and make you feel as a woman.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Or even if he's like reminding you of things you
need to do, like you just don't forget you have
to do X today, remember this, or random like I
love you, text thank you, Yeah, things like that, It
goes a long way. They do thank you. I can't
wait we come into the wedding when whoever.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Is and I find him, I want, I want what
this white man is.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I want, I want to And it's.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Funny because save me that I feel like I ton't
he to say like im as much as I have
like brothers and sisters and step brothers. And I'm my
mom's only child, so I feel guilty because I haven't
given her a grand friend, right, so I want to
have it's even our child, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Well, no matter what, this is going to happen, so
whatever it is, but you're already a gift to her.
So I know she's so proud of you. So we
appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Thank you seeing here. Thank you, and we're gonna see
you Angela d August. This is not going to get
Angela Ragna come to things. I represent for the name Rewar.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
You know that's right for those who don't know, angel
is a time outside.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
You know who else is performing right, just so you know,
I think, so I don't want to say the wrong things.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
So Egyptian is going to be there, all right. That's
all I'm gonna give you, all right now, you know,
go to August Free and it's a family day, so
I come out and have some fun and hang out
with us.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
And I heard it's earlier this year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
It's earlier this year. It's part of Planet Brooklyn at
the Barclays. So Planet Brooklyn is a two day festival.
It's the first time they're doing this at the Barclays.
So it's basically a festival that's like blocks and blocks
and blocks long and Angela Yide is a community part
of it. It's a free event. We're gonna have haircuts,
hair braiding, free backpacks, free everything, you know, for families,
for kids to come out because it's right before back

(01:00:42):
to school. It's a week before the West Indian American
Day Parade, which we love. We outside y'all and I'm
going to take my virgin say, oh my god, I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
It's your virginity chair propping around here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Lip service.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yeah,