December 9, 2022 • 16 mins
Mike Tyson may be one of the most interesting people walking the Earth and we must protect him.
We’re back with another IRL #TakeAways. The in-between audio-only podcast where Angie and special guests reflect on episode responses, takeaways, and highlights.
Does anyone else believe that when someone says something that resonates with you so much you feel it in your spirit, that it somehow shows up later in your life? The conversation Mike Tyson and Angie had about Angels resonated with Angie so much she is convinced she may have run into her own angel, Debbie, from South Jersey.
But that’s not it! On this week’s #TakeAways Angie also connects with psycologoist and trauma expert, Dr. Mariel Bouquet to discuss rage, brain scans, and meditation as a solution.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Andie Martinez in Real Life Podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I Do say I'm excited about this one.
So this Takeaways Conversation. This is an audio only podcast
where we talk about some of the conversations we've had
in our interviews of the Andie Martinez in Real Life podcast.
We are talking my Mike Tyson interview. Mike Tyson maybe
(00:26):
one of the most interesting people walking the earth. At
one point, he was one of the most dangerous people
walking his earth too. He still might be. That's so fascinating.
Did you sit across to him and he's like, he's
so sweet and amazing, but also there's there's always this
little thing where you're like, don't say nothing. Nobody's saying
(00:48):
nothing crazy to Mike. Please. And I also feel this,
And maybe this is just me and my nature. I
almost want to protect him. I feel like because I
I see his he tries so hard and he's found
a way to get through life even with his troubles
and his trauma and all that stuff. And he's made
(01:09):
a good life for himself and he's but he could
be triggered at any point. So I I root for him,
and I and I'm happy to see where he has it,
and I love his wife. Shout out to Kiki. I'm
if she would let me. I want to interview her
because I find Kiki equally as fascinating as Mike. A
lot of people might not know Kiki was the one
Kiki wrote that UM one man show that he did,
(01:32):
and she's like his biggest cheerleader, his biggest confidante. She really,
I mean, I'm not saying anything Mike wouldn't tell you himself.
She like runs the show and uh, and she's just
a little powerhouse and she's not interested in being interviewed.
Otherwise I would force her to be on the show. Um,
but we love Kiki, so shout out to her. We're
(01:52):
gonna talk to Dr Mariel Bouquet, she was on the
show before she joined this for the Usher conversation. She's
gonna come back to talk about Mike's ray because I
really thought it was interesting on this episode where he
talked about being able to see rage on his brain scan. Um,
it's funny because he said a lot of boxers also
have this like they have they're prone to dementia because
(02:14):
they've been hit so many times in the head. But
because Mike wasn't hit that many times people not have
dementia yet he has rage. But another thing, another takeaway
that I took from this episode. I took a lot
away from the episode. But another thing I took away
was a moment where he talks about Joe Button and
I talked about this a little bit too. Sometimes when
you meet people in the street, maybe you I don't know,
(02:36):
Britney's here with me my show producer, by the way,
and m ecs here on my radio show producer. Um,
have you ever met somebody in the street where you
think maybe they could have been like an angel or
or somebody testing you for sure? Me and Mike talked.
So Mike and I talked about this in this episode
where he said when he gives money to a homeless
person in the street, he thinks that who who was that?
(02:59):
That could have been an angel? Uh? I thought I
only thought those type of things, but clearly not clearly
mad people think this. Joe Button said the same thing,
and Mike just said the same thing. So I was
thinking about that episode, that part of the episode with Mike,
and then how about I went out a couple of
days later. This is this is the story I was
(03:19):
gonna tell you, my boy, telling you something crazy happened
last night, and I thought about Mike. This is what
I love takeaways, because when you have good conversation with people,
it really does sit with you. It really does stay
in your life, like if somebody says something that you
feel inside your spirit or your heart. You go about
your life, of course, but every now and then those
words they come back and they sit with you. And
(03:41):
that's what I hope for in these conversations. And this
is why we do takeaways to share what ours are. Anyway,
I say all that to say, I was outside having
dinner the other night with a friend who was in town.
It was late around around they and I having dinner.
We go to the parking lot. Um around as your partner,
(04:01):
my boom for the people that don't know, he's my boo.
We went together a very long time. We were meeting
one of his friends and we had a great night
and we were it was late. We were going to
the parking lot to get his car. Um we go
to the door because it's it's late. The gates closed
and there's like a bell. So we go to the
door and some lady pops up out of nowhere. It's
(04:23):
a little blonde lady and she's like, I didn't think.
I don't know where she came from, by the way,
because there was nobody on the street notice. And she
was like, I didn't think this gate was open. I
was going to walk around to the other side. I
didn't know. And he was like, yeah, you gotta press
the button. So he pressed the button, so we all
go in. Now Um, while he's paying for his ticket,
I start small talking with the lady and she's very sweet.
(04:43):
She lives in South Jersey. She was having she was
having drinks at Noble with her friends in town and
blah blah blah blah blah. So she was sweet around.
They realized I was chatting with her, and he tried.
He did a nice gesture and he said, give me
a parking ticket. He's I'm gonna pay for your Yeah.
She was like no, no, no, absolutely not. I was like,
it's okay. He's he does okay for himself, but it's
(05:05):
a holiday's happy holidays. It was nice meeting. You pay
it forward, pay somebody else's if you must. You know,
if you must do something, pay it forward. And she
was like, um, okay, okay, but she was so touched
by just somebody paying her parking ticket. It was a
little it was like too much almost like she was
like so like what, oh my god, like she I
can't explain it, like it meant so much to her
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and I couldn't. I was like, I know, it's a
nice gesture, but it's not. He didn't save your life.
He's not you know what I mean. It was like
she was like over and then um, she says, so around.
They goes to the car. He's opening the trunk and
she says to me, can I give you guys a hug?
Now she's a stranger. We just met her in the street.
It's a little touchy field. I'm like, okay, I give
(05:49):
I gave her like a little soft stranger hug, you know,
the little like pat pat on the shoulder. And she
was like, she goes, I just feel like my husband
told you guys to do something nice for me. Oh
I cry right now. Oh gosh. She says, I lost
my husband two weeks ago. I know, Wow, that's a lot.
(06:12):
I know, but she starts crying. I'm almost crying, but
I'm just kind of looking at her like an awe
because she there was something about the way she delivered,
and she's like, I feel like my husband told told
you guys to do something nice for me because he
knew I needed it. Around it was like, what just happened?
(06:34):
So now he's getting choked up, I'm getting choked up.
Then we really hug her. Now we have Now we're
like in the parking lot, really hugging her. And I
was like, I was like, I'm so sorry. I was like,
are you okay? Are you driving home? She's like I'll
be fine. I'm I'm met my son, and I'm you know,
I'll be okay. And she and she's got you know her,
she's got a very nice wedding ring on, and she's
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got two adult kids, so she clearly been married a
long time. UM anyway, so she got in the car
and I was like, are you sure? So she gets
in the car and me and around. They get in
the car and he goes what was that? I said,
I don't know where he goes. Do you think she
was an angel or something? I don't know, but whatever
she was, I felt her very deeply. It wasn't like
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just the stranger going through something like we felt her
very deeply, and it checked both of us because we
had been complaining about something that didn't matter, and we
were both like, you never know what people are, what
type of pain people are walking around with, You never
know what people are going through. You do a kind gesture,
you just take a moment, and and I don't know.
And then then at that moment, I was I remember
Mike and me and Mike talking about how like, you
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never know when somebody needs. They don't have to be
an angel or not. They could just be a person
in need. They could just be a person in pain.
And sometimes if you just do something nice to somebody,
you just don't know what you wind up even getting
back from it. So it was, I don't know, it
was a super deeper. It just happened like two nights ago,
and we woke up the next day and we were like, okay,
(08:03):
first name Basis. She's from South Jersey. But she was
probably thinking that you guys were an angel for her, yes,
who knows, who knows? But also we you know, we
all have things going on in our lives. Us included
like we'd been stressed out about something else, and then
that moment we both were checked like she checked us.
She literally checked us. She checked our spirit fast, and
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so then you have to thank It's almost like thank
you for that, even though she was saying thank you
for doing a nice gessure, but it's like thank you
for checking us, which which made us think was she
maybe could have been an angel or not. I don't
know who knows right anyway, Oh, I forgot a part
of the story. But she said she had come out.
This is why round they thought she wasn't real. They
(08:46):
thought she was like a number. When we saw her
come out of nowhere? Are you talking about that? Nobody?
We don't right there? After hours, it's not a busy,
nobody's there, nobody lives. There is nobody there. No, it's late.
I don't even know if noble is still open um.
And she popped about of nowhere number one, and she said,
(09:07):
I saw you guys coming out of the hotel, and
you guys look so happy. Oh she was, I noticed you. Yes,
it's not normal. And then she just popped about of nowhere.
It was kind of nuts. She said she was a noble.
Where her girls having drinks? And where were her girls?
I don't know why would they leave her. She just
lost her husband. The poor thing. Where are they? I was.
(09:35):
If I'm not with my girls and she just lost
I'm taking her to the parking lot. Yeah. Unless the
woman is that some type of angel or spirit or something.
I don't know that'd be from South Jersey. If you
are out there, show yourself to me. She's an angel.
So she's not going to show her. So that was
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my little has nothing to do with the Mike Tyson conversation.
But the point of that is like, sometimes you say
something or you can share something that really connects with somebody.
And I did think of the conversation with Mike and
about how you never know like what's going on with
people around you and stuff like that, and so I
thought of him after that little moment. Another thing that
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stayed with me to change gears for a second about
this episode is like I talked about that rage that
he walks around with. So I wanted to share a
little bit of that conversation. And we have our doctor backed,
our favorite Dominican doctor, Dr Mariel Bouquet, psychologist and trauma expert,
(10:37):
so we started to be here with you. Um so yeah,
so in this episode, you know, he talks a lot
about his rage and maybe you knew about this, doc,
but I for for sure didn't know that on his
brain scan you could actually see his rage um, which
I would have Is that normal? Is that, like a
(10:57):
normal brain you could normally see people's ray age or
is that because he has so much of it? Well,
in brain stance, you can actually see what prominent emotions
people tend to have. Right, So, what it basically does
is that it detects the blood flow of the brain,
and so whenever you experience a certain emotion, the blood
blows to the emotion centers of the brain. And that's
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what they probably saw. And you know it is for
many of us, especially if you come from a background
that you know Mike came from, like it can be
very common for us to experience chronic stress, chronic trauma,
chronic anger, and chronic grade. So I'm glad that he
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got that point of insight because from there there's something
that he can do about it, because you can heal
chronic anger and rage. You don't just have to stay there.
You can heal it. Because to me, I thought interesting
that he because he talks about when he was young
and he had all that rage when he was young
and when he was fighting, But the fact that he
has it now as a man who's been married for
thirteen years and he you know, he is you know,
(12:02):
he experiments with mushrooms and all types of weed, and
he and he meditates, and he has found ways to
kind of live his life and manage his rage. But
the fact that it still shows up so significantly on
his brain scan, I don't know. I just it made
me wonder if that's just something he has to live
with forever, forever, that it just sits there. No, it
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doesn't have to be. I mean. That's the thing is
that for many of us, whenever we hear something like that,
we're like, oh, well, that's just who I am, right,
Like that's the general go to because especially when you
think the brain, you think, oh, well, that's how my
brain is. You don't think that you can actually change
your brain, which you can. There is this thing called
neural classicity, which is where the brain and the nervous
system can actually be transformed and they can grow, and
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you can actually become less angry and become more of
the other emotions that you would like to experience, joy, calm,
all the things. Wow, I think he's done a tremendous
job at managing considering that he had whatever, however much
was showing the significant amount that he even says he
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carries the rage around that he has managed, like I said,
to have a you know, a long relationship, be married,
have all this tender kind of love for his kids.
And I don't know, I think it's fascinating that he's
been able to manage manage that. What what is the
what is the best advice though to somebody who is
because I did see a lot in the comments people
resonated to that, and especially when I posted that clip,
(13:29):
I saw people say, I feel this, I feel angry, Like,
what is the number one thing to go to things
somebody who's suffering, or somebody in your family is suffering
from rage or anger right now, what is the first
thing you recommend that they try? Well, of course, I'm
gonna recommend therapy, right there's a bit of a bias there,
and I understand that we don't all have access to therapy,
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so that's that can't be the general go through for everybody.
But we did talk about meditation as a really powerful
healing store, and meditation doesn't have to be like sitting
down and meditating and you know, just watching your thoughts
float by. People can actually through walking meditations. People can
do sound bath meditations, which is where like micro vibrations
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actually help you to feel instantly relaxed. There's so many
versions of how you can actually engage in meditations to
restructure your brain, to restructure the ways that you respond
to stress, and then restructure the ways that you respond
to anger. And you can do that literally right now.
M hm. And just like just walking how what is
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walking meditation? How does that work? Well, you've got to
think about what tends to happen. Whenever we're in these
kinds of emotions like anger, we feel really frozen in it,
right like you're in it. And whenever you're getting up
and actually moving your body, you're releasing a lot of
the tension that's sorting your body. The things I understand
about emotions is that emotions are primarily a body based process.
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It's not all in the mind in the ways that
we thought forever. It really is more so in the body.
It's in your brain, it's in your nervous system. So
when you get up and you start walking and you
start shaking off the tension, You're less likely to respond
out of anger. So move your body. So when I
get angry and I feel like I want to break something,
that's not my emotion, that's my body telling me to relax.
(15:23):
That's literally every cell in your body trying to release
all that tension because it feels awful. H So if
you get upset, just say, hey baby, I'm gonna go
outside and take a walk. Imagine having all of that,
but then you're Mike Tyson. Pound everybody out. You gotta walk,
you gotta move, get out, dude. Do whatever. The moral
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of the story is, do whatever it takes. If Mike
Tyson could find a way to have a pretty much
peaceful life at this point in his life after all
of the insane trauma and anger and all the things
that he's been through, you know, it's possible for anyone.
So there's hope. There is hope. Thank you DR for
your time today so much for having me for a pleasure,
(16:07):
and thank you guys for checking this out and listen.
If you haven't um checked out the Mike Tyson interview.
It is available to watch on my YouTube page, Andrew
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subscribe so you don't miss anything. UM. Thank you again
to Mike Tyson for an incredible conversation. We adore you
(16:29):
uh and we'll see you next time.
Andie Martinez in Real Life Podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I Do say I'm excited about this one.
So this Takeaways Conversation. This is an audio only podcast
where we talk about some of the conversations we've had
in our interviews of the Andie Martinez in Real Life podcast.
We are talking my Mike Tyson interview. Mike Tyson maybe
(00:26):
one of the most interesting people walking the earth. At
one point, he was one of the most dangerous people
walking his earth too. He still might be. That's so fascinating.
Did you sit across to him and he's like, he's
so sweet and amazing, but also there's there's always this
little thing where you're like, don't say nothing. Nobody's saying
(00:48):
nothing crazy to Mike. Please. And I also feel this,
And maybe this is just me and my nature. I
almost want to protect him. I feel like because I
I see his he tries so hard and he's found
a way to get through life even with his troubles
and his trauma and all that stuff. And he's made
(01:09):
a good life for himself and he's but he could
be triggered at any point. So I I root for him,
and I and I'm happy to see where he has it,
and I love his wife. Shout out to Kiki. I'm
if she would let me. I want to interview her
because I find Kiki equally as fascinating as Mike. A
lot of people might not know Kiki was the one
Kiki wrote that UM one man show that he did,
(01:32):
and she's like his biggest cheerleader, his biggest confidante. She really,
I mean, I'm not saying anything Mike wouldn't tell you himself.
She like runs the show and uh, and she's just
a little powerhouse and she's not interested in being interviewed.
Otherwise I would force her to be on the show. Um,
but we love Kiki, so shout out to her. We're
(01:52):
gonna talk to Dr Mariel Bouquet, she was on the
show before she joined this for the Usher conversation. She's
gonna come back to talk about Mike's ray because I
really thought it was interesting on this episode where he
talked about being able to see rage on his brain scan. Um,
it's funny because he said a lot of boxers also
have this like they have they're prone to dementia because
(02:14):
they've been hit so many times in the head. But
because Mike wasn't hit that many times people not have
dementia yet he has rage. But another thing, another takeaway
that I took from this episode. I took a lot
away from the episode. But another thing I took away
was a moment where he talks about Joe Button and
I talked about this a little bit too. Sometimes when
you meet people in the street, maybe you I don't know,
(02:36):
Britney's here with me my show producer, by the way,
and m ecs here on my radio show producer. Um,
have you ever met somebody in the street where you
think maybe they could have been like an angel or
or somebody testing you for sure? Me and Mike talked.
So Mike and I talked about this in this episode
where he said when he gives money to a homeless
person in the street, he thinks that who who was that?
(02:59):
That could have been an angel? Uh? I thought I
only thought those type of things, but clearly not clearly
mad people think this. Joe Button said the same thing,
and Mike just said the same thing. So I was
thinking about that episode, that part of the episode with Mike,
and then how about I went out a couple of
days later. This is this is the story I was
(03:19):
gonna tell you, my boy, telling you something crazy happened
last night, and I thought about Mike. This is what
I love takeaways, because when you have good conversation with people,
it really does sit with you. It really does stay
in your life, like if somebody says something that you
feel inside your spirit or your heart. You go about
your life, of course, but every now and then those
words they come back and they sit with you. And
(03:41):
that's what I hope for in these conversations. And this
is why we do takeaways to share what ours are. Anyway,
I say all that to say, I was outside having
dinner the other night with a friend who was in town.
It was late around around they and I having dinner.
We go to the parking lot. Um around as your partner,
(04:01):
my boom for the people that don't know, he's my boo.
We went together a very long time. We were meeting
one of his friends and we had a great night
and we were it was late. We were going to
the parking lot to get his car. Um we go
to the door because it's it's late. The gates closed
and there's like a bell. So we go to the
door and some lady pops up out of nowhere. It's
(04:23):
a little blonde lady and she's like, I didn't think.
I don't know where she came from, by the way,
because there was nobody on the street notice. And she
was like, I didn't think this gate was open. I
was going to walk around to the other side. I
didn't know. And he was like, yeah, you gotta press
the button. So he pressed the button, so we all
go in. Now Um, while he's paying for his ticket,
I start small talking with the lady and she's very sweet.
(04:43):
She lives in South Jersey. She was having she was
having drinks at Noble with her friends in town and
blah blah blah blah blah. So she was sweet around.
They realized I was chatting with her, and he tried.
He did a nice gesture and he said, give me
a parking ticket. He's I'm gonna pay for your Yeah.
She was like no, no, no, absolutely not. I was like,
it's okay. He's he does okay for himself, but it's
(05:05):
a holiday's happy holidays. It was nice meeting. You pay
it forward, pay somebody else's if you must. You know,
if you must do something, pay it forward. And she
was like, um, okay, okay, but she was so touched
by just somebody paying her parking ticket. It was a
little it was like too much almost like she was
like so like what, oh my god, like she I
can't explain it, like it meant so much to her
(05:28):
and I couldn't. I was like, I know, it's a
nice gesture, but it's not. He didn't save your life.
He's not you know what I mean. It was like
she was like over and then um, she says, so around.
They goes to the car. He's opening the trunk and
she says to me, can I give you guys a hug?
Now she's a stranger. We just met her in the street.
It's a little touchy field. I'm like, okay, I give
(05:49):
I gave her like a little soft stranger hug, you know,
the little like pat pat on the shoulder. And she
was like, she goes, I just feel like my husband
told you guys to do something nice for me. Oh
I cry right now. Oh gosh. She says, I lost
my husband two weeks ago. I know, Wow, that's a lot.
(06:12):
I know, but she starts crying. I'm almost crying, but
I'm just kind of looking at her like an awe
because she there was something about the way she delivered,
and she's like, I feel like my husband told told
you guys to do something nice for me because he
knew I needed it. Around it was like, what just happened?
(06:34):
So now he's getting choked up, I'm getting choked up.
Then we really hug her. Now we have Now we're
like in the parking lot, really hugging her. And I
was like, I was like, I'm so sorry. I was like,
are you okay? Are you driving home? She's like I'll
be fine. I'm I'm met my son, and I'm you know,
I'll be okay. And she and she's got you know her,
she's got a very nice wedding ring on, and she's
(06:55):
got two adult kids, so she clearly been married a
long time. UM anyway, so she got in the car
and I was like, are you sure? So she gets
in the car and me and around. They get in
the car and he goes what was that? I said,
I don't know where he goes. Do you think she
was an angel or something? I don't know, but whatever
she was, I felt her very deeply. It wasn't like
(07:18):
just the stranger going through something like we felt her
very deeply, and it checked both of us because we
had been complaining about something that didn't matter, and we
were both like, you never know what people are, what
type of pain people are walking around with, You never
know what people are going through. You do a kind gesture,
you just take a moment, and and I don't know.
And then then at that moment, I was I remember
Mike and me and Mike talking about how like, you
(07:42):
never know when somebody needs. They don't have to be
an angel or not. They could just be a person
in need. They could just be a person in pain.
And sometimes if you just do something nice to somebody,
you just don't know what you wind up even getting
back from it. So it was, I don't know, it
was a super deeper. It just happened like two nights ago,
and we woke up the next day and we were like, okay,
(08:03):
first name Basis. She's from South Jersey. But she was
probably thinking that you guys were an angel for her, yes,
who knows, who knows? But also we you know, we
all have things going on in our lives. Us included
like we'd been stressed out about something else, and then
that moment we both were checked like she checked us.
She literally checked us. She checked our spirit fast, and
(08:26):
so then you have to thank It's almost like thank
you for that, even though she was saying thank you
for doing a nice gessure, but it's like thank you
for checking us, which which made us think was she
maybe could have been an angel or not. I don't
know who knows right anyway, Oh, I forgot a part
of the story. But she said she had come out.
This is why round they thought she wasn't real. They
(08:46):
thought she was like a number. When we saw her
come out of nowhere? Are you talking about that? Nobody?
We don't right there? After hours, it's not a busy,
nobody's there, nobody lives. There is nobody there. No, it's late.
I don't even know if noble is still open um.
And she popped about of nowhere number one, and she said,
(09:07):
I saw you guys coming out of the hotel, and
you guys look so happy. Oh she was, I noticed you. Yes,
it's not normal. And then she just popped about of nowhere.
It was kind of nuts. She said she was a noble.
Where her girls having drinks? And where were her girls?
I don't know why would they leave her. She just
lost her husband. The poor thing. Where are they? I was.
(09:35):
If I'm not with my girls and she just lost
I'm taking her to the parking lot. Yeah. Unless the
woman is that some type of angel or spirit or something.
I don't know that'd be from South Jersey. If you
are out there, show yourself to me. She's an angel.
So she's not going to show her. So that was
(09:55):
my little has nothing to do with the Mike Tyson conversation.
But the point of that is like, sometimes you say
something or you can share something that really connects with somebody.
And I did think of the conversation with Mike and
about how you never know like what's going on with
people around you and stuff like that, and so I
thought of him after that little moment. Another thing that
(10:16):
stayed with me to change gears for a second about
this episode is like I talked about that rage that
he walks around with. So I wanted to share a
little bit of that conversation. And we have our doctor backed,
our favorite Dominican doctor, Dr Mariel Bouquet, psychologist and trauma expert,
(10:37):
so we started to be here with you. Um so yeah,
so in this episode, you know, he talks a lot
about his rage and maybe you knew about this, doc,
but I for for sure didn't know that on his
brain scan you could actually see his rage um, which
I would have Is that normal? Is that, like a
(10:57):
normal brain you could normally see people's ray age or
is that because he has so much of it? Well,
in brain stance, you can actually see what prominent emotions
people tend to have. Right, So, what it basically does
is that it detects the blood flow of the brain,
and so whenever you experience a certain emotion, the blood
blows to the emotion centers of the brain. And that's
(11:20):
what they probably saw. And you know it is for
many of us, especially if you come from a background
that you know Mike came from, like it can be
very common for us to experience chronic stress, chronic trauma,
chronic anger, and chronic grade. So I'm glad that he
(11:40):
got that point of insight because from there there's something
that he can do about it, because you can heal
chronic anger and rage. You don't just have to stay there.
You can heal it. Because to me, I thought interesting
that he because he talks about when he was young
and he had all that rage when he was young
and when he was fighting, But the fact that he
has it now as a man who's been married for
thirteen years and he you know, he is you know,
(12:02):
he experiments with mushrooms and all types of weed, and
he and he meditates, and he has found ways to
kind of live his life and manage his rage. But
the fact that it still shows up so significantly on
his brain scan, I don't know. I just it made
me wonder if that's just something he has to live
with forever, forever, that it just sits there. No, it
(12:23):
doesn't have to be. I mean. That's the thing is
that for many of us, whenever we hear something like that,
we're like, oh, well, that's just who I am, right,
Like that's the general go to because especially when you
think the brain, you think, oh, well, that's how my
brain is. You don't think that you can actually change
your brain, which you can. There is this thing called
neural classicity, which is where the brain and the nervous
system can actually be transformed and they can grow, and
(12:47):
you can actually become less angry and become more of
the other emotions that you would like to experience, joy, calm,
all the things. Wow, I think he's done a tremendous
job at managing considering that he had whatever, however much
was showing the significant amount that he even says he
(13:07):
carries the rage around that he has managed, like I said,
to have a you know, a long relationship, be married,
have all this tender kind of love for his kids.
And I don't know, I think it's fascinating that he's
been able to manage manage that. What what is the
what is the best advice though to somebody who is
because I did see a lot in the comments people
resonated to that, and especially when I posted that clip,
(13:29):
I saw people say, I feel this, I feel angry, Like,
what is the number one thing to go to things
somebody who's suffering, or somebody in your family is suffering
from rage or anger right now, what is the first
thing you recommend that they try? Well, of course, I'm
gonna recommend therapy, right there's a bit of a bias there,
and I understand that we don't all have access to therapy,
(13:52):
so that's that can't be the general go through for everybody.
But we did talk about meditation as a really powerful
healing store, and meditation doesn't have to be like sitting
down and meditating and you know, just watching your thoughts
float by. People can actually through walking meditations. People can
do sound bath meditations, which is where like micro vibrations
(14:15):
actually help you to feel instantly relaxed. There's so many
versions of how you can actually engage in meditations to
restructure your brain, to restructure the ways that you respond
to stress, and then restructure the ways that you respond
to anger. And you can do that literally right now.
M hm. And just like just walking how what is
(14:36):
walking meditation? How does that work? Well, you've got to
think about what tends to happen. Whenever we're in these
kinds of emotions like anger, we feel really frozen in it,
right like you're in it. And whenever you're getting up
and actually moving your body, you're releasing a lot of
the tension that's sorting your body. The things I understand
about emotions is that emotions are primarily a body based process.
(14:59):
It's not all in the mind in the ways that
we thought forever. It really is more so in the body.
It's in your brain, it's in your nervous system. So
when you get up and you start walking and you
start shaking off the tension, You're less likely to respond
out of anger. So move your body. So when I
get angry and I feel like I want to break something,
that's not my emotion, that's my body telling me to relax.
(15:23):
That's literally every cell in your body trying to release
all that tension because it feels awful. H So if
you get upset, just say, hey baby, I'm gonna go
outside and take a walk. Imagine having all of that,
but then you're Mike Tyson. Pound everybody out. You gotta walk,
you gotta move, get out, dude. Do whatever. The moral
(15:45):
of the story is, do whatever it takes. If Mike
Tyson could find a way to have a pretty much
peaceful life at this point in his life after all
of the insane trauma and anger and all the things
that he's been through, you know, it's possible for anyone.
So there's hope. There is hope. Thank you DR for
your time today so much for having me for a pleasure,
(16:07):
and thank you guys for checking this out and listen.
If you haven't um checked out the Mike Tyson interview.
It is available to watch on my YouTube page, Andrew
Martinez i O page and of course you can listen
to it. We're all podcasts are heard. Make sure you
subscribe so you don't miss anything. UM. Thank you again
to Mike Tyson for an incredible conversation. We adore you
(16:29):
uh and we'll see you next time.
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Angie Martinez
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