April 24, 2024 • 32 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan reunite with fellow Golden gal Ellen. Ellen is here to chat all things aging, dating, and everything in between! We kick off today’s episode by catching up with Ellen and jumping right into her thoughts on dating later in life.
Then, we hear a very touching story about Ellen’s late best friend, Roberta. We also chat about Ellen’s perspective on dating — what’s changed and what’s to come? Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you
so much for coming back and joining us again. We
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
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have a very very special guest.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
The beloved Ellen Ellen. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
We love you, I love you, Tisons and Kathy, thank
you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh Ellen, it's so always so great to see you.
Particularly you and I are such a strong bond because
we are the pickleball champions from our season. I'm never
going to live it down. I want to know are
you still playing pick a ball? How's it going?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Tell me that, yeah, I'll continue playing. Right now, I'm
a little injured, but other than that, I'm okay. I'm
waiting to get healed up and go back on the court.
Still playing, also still playing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Now, how often did you play pickleball?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Like, what is.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Or to your injury four times a week?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
That's pickleball? And what's it like being a captain?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, you always kept saying you're the captain of
your team in Florida? What does that mean to be
the captain?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Do you plan the teams? How does it work well?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
On the funny side, if I wasn't the captain, probably
you wouldn't have a team.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Because it's still controlling these I.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Wanted a team for my community in a division that
was too difficult, not too easy, you know, something right
in the middle.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And Susan's right, it's about control.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But do you do the scheduling and everything? You schedule
the game?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
It's a real it's a real sanctioned league where there's
four hundred members and it's throughout all South Florida. And
it's really an amazing way that they function with like
ten twelve divisions and then eight teams and with the
ten teams in a division and they just they do
(02:25):
the countains to check these scoring and it's really a
really big deal and work for the there's a lot
of work for the captains.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Is it all female or is it male and female? Female?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, I'm in another league that's a co ed league,
and that's I don't have to do anything because I'm
a captain. I love that week because I just so played.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So do you meet new people?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I mean, oh yeah, Well, the funniest is when you
go to other communities and you run to someone that
you went to high school with, because everybody is pretty
migrating to Florida from New York, you know, so I
met like six or seven oh god, maybe more people
from high school college that I haven't seen in twenty
thirty years.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Wait, that must be really fun. Any good guys that
you know maybe from high school that.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yes, there was one, but he's married.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh no, that's happen.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
His his wife is very very nice.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I just want I just want to focus on one
thing that you said at the beginning of this show,
which was you've been a little injured and you're coming back.
That is what we're about, right as we get older,
we were things happened, but we're still getting back out.
So I just want to applaud you that you've had
a few health issues, but you're not giving up. You're
(03:44):
not giving up. You're getting back out of the court.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Honestly, it's just you know, a really bit so our hips,
you know, I you know, think about the whole premise
of why I got on the show with Roberta, and
that's something that you can't fix. Yes, so I'm so
rateful that I have is so fixable. Yet pall that habit.
In a short time, they're back on the court again.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, and that's the positive energy. Yeah, that's the positive energy.
Speaking of the show, Ellen, give us a couple of
your favorite memories from the show besides meeting Susan and me.
Of course, well I know.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Weapiently that's definitely a big plus. But Kathy, you're in
one of those favorite moments.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I have to say, Oh, dear, Okay, go for it time.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It was good that winning the pickaball activity was so
much fun, just having fun, getting excited, cheering everybody on,
shooting the champagne all over the place, having you as
a partner.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh, you're so sweet.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
It was really a great time. But better than that, sorry, Katy,
the princess date in the balloon and.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
The well, yeah, excuse me, where are those diamond earrings?
I still want? She got about everyone needs to know.
Do you remember I tried to keep I tried to
steal them from you. Every time I say, Ellen, can
I borrow those errings?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I just try them on. I said, if I gave,
I would never get them back.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But you did share a lot of the clothing that
you were given from that Princess Date. I will say that.
Remember the heels that I couldn't even walk in? Who
has those, Edith? I believe she could walk in them?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Wait? Can I just wait? Can I just say one thing?
You got tons of clothes, Ellen, You've got these fabulous earrings.
Susan got like a frame photograph and a piece of
pink horse whatever you all got kids? I just whatever, quartz.
You know what I got, A big fat zero. Just
(05:46):
want to put that out there again, that I wasn't
the Princess Date. I didn't get. I didn't get.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I got the zip and you own it, right, I told.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You that's what I did, zip it exactly. Anyway, I
think we should talk about our topic of the day.
What do you say?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I have a good question for her, Ellen, What have
you learned that you either need more of or less
of about love after being on the show?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
What have you learned?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
A good questions? I learned that you don't want to
be with anyone if you can't be yourself. Yes, And honestly,
I get more pleasure out of just being comfortable in
a situation now where I don't have to pretend to
be someone I'm not where I used to be afraid
(06:37):
of that. You know, I had a few learning disabilities
growing up, and I was always self conscious about it.
You know, I wasn't able to read till I was
in third grade. And little things like that stay with you,
and as you get older, they don't really go away.
They just manifest itself in other ways. And The Bachelor,
believe it or not, at the age of seventy, actually
(07:01):
helped to change that and made me feel that why
would I want to be with anyone that wouldn't accept
me totally?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Totally?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Is a lot everybody has faults and a lot of
things about people that I've loved that I didn't accept
that really needed to change the behaviors. Well, sometimes they
could and sometimes they couldn't, but it depended how important
it was to me.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That is a prevailing thought. We had spoken with Nancy
on another episode, and Nancy was talking about a guy
that didn't want to date because she had some health issues,
and you're talking about learning issues again. I think being
our age and accepting ourselves for who we are and
(07:46):
looking for people who accept us who we are, that's
one of the things that separates us from the younger crowd. Truly.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, I think at this point we've accomplished most of
our goals and Nope, after doing that, if we can't
just be ourselves and enjoy that part, you know, then
and enjoy the people we're with. Like, I'm pretty selective
about the friends I pick. I'm selective about Susan.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We should feel greatful.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I wish I could be selective about them.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Then, I think, but that's the next question.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
What are you looking for in a partner now?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And has it changed what you were looking for before
the show? Have you learned anything about what you're seeking?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah? I was a people pleaser, and now I want
the people to.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Please meet amen, sister, and not an exciting way, not.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
In a way that we both can benefit and like, like,
especially Kathy sticks in my head. I want a dor
you know. I don't want to sit her.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't want to count I used to guy to guys.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I love that and I'm so glad you reminded me
of that because I want someone that is not I
used to guy. I want someone that is a doer now.
And you know, I know we're older, I know we
get injured, I know the things slow down. But it
could be as simple as enjoying the same kind of movie.
It doesn't have to all be activity, you know, saying
(09:23):
reading the same kind of books and discussing them, or
you know, going to a reserve and seeing all the
birds being born. I mean, things like that is not
super strenuous and pickleball and golf and all that. It's
just commonality. And I don't have commonality with somebody. Well
that's what happened, you know, very misleading. I went out
(09:46):
a while ago with someone that I thought was very promising. Actually,
I mean I was sort of I was sort of happy,
and then I realized that even though we had so
much in common, that his life was way more important
than mine. And I don't expect him to want to
(10:08):
do everything that I want to do, but the attention
pretty much how to be centered around him.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And that's I think you're saying that, Ellen. It's it's
you're not going to settle at this stage.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I want to be shared, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, but also you saw that as a red flag
and you didn't. I think when we were younger, we
try to change red flags into white flags, and you
didn't even try it. I think good on you.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
For me, I recently met a guy recently that's very
sweet and kind and fun and nice, and you know
there's possibilities there. I'm going to see him in not
too long from now.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, so can I ask you, Ellen? Are you on
a dating site? Is that how you met him? Or
in fact go into your d M.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
The first one was through pickleball friends through the league.
Actually one of the other teams from another league suggested it.
And then uh, this second person is somebody that I
met in a restaurant gathering. It was to promote the restaurant,
so I was invited to go there, not as not
(11:15):
as Ellen goes back, just just as Ellen's friends, you know,
And it just happened that, you know, he came over
and said hello, and it was very casual.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So you know what I'm hearing here, Ellen? You you
are doing what I wish more women and men our
age would do. You're not sitting back waiting for the
guys to come to you, and I've gotten now. You
go out and you do things and you look and
when you get out and put yourself out there, people
come into your life. It's I think that is uh amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
What's really important is what really is important is the
thing that you like to do is where you're going
to find the people that like to do it too.
So I don't really love the bar scene. I didn't
mind the intro to the restaurant that was sort of okay,
it was nice, But I would be uncomfortable in a
bar scene. But I would be uncomfortable in meeting someone
(12:13):
at a golf course, or I wouldn't be uncomfortable meeting
somebody at a movie festival. You know, these are things
that I would like because these things that he would
like as well.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So it's so you have something in common.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, But the best thing is being recommended or somebody
referring someone that's the best.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It sounds like a business Dale Ellen, Yeah, could you
recommend a nice, good looking man. I referrals recommendation.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I know if a friend says I know someone that
would be perfect, I know you and I know, yeah
that's the best.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Have you ever been on dating sites and will you
go back on?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Ever?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I was on datings the bost a while, so yes,
I was on dating sites and no, I will never
go back.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Isn't that funny? I think we all feel the same way.
I was on the I think all of them.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And as the show for get it right.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, it's funny, not because they're not good. And some people.
A lot of my fam are married through dating sites.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I marry so many couples that have met on dating
sites all the time.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
My son that just got married and he formed the ceremony.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So Ellen, I don't know. I mean, I know you
pretty well, but I actually don't know very much about
your marriage, and I you know whatever, you're comfortable, shame,
but I really want to know how you're different now
and do you want to get married again?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I was very confident with the person I was married
to for twenty five years. We were friends first. We
know each other since my ten years old sleep boy Camp.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Sorry did you say sleepwoay Camp?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yes, you shared this story with me, I remember, Okay,
keep going.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I want to hear that.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
And we've been friends for you know, forever, since ten
years old, and we're still friends today, I mean really
good friends. And just we separated into different paths. We
were both going to go in the field of education.
He wasn't supposed he couldn't get into it as very
bad timing for teachers at the time, and we went
(14:28):
different ways. But that's not even the issue. The issue
is that we had a good relationship and I've always
felt confident with him and always felt comfortable with him.
It's when I left the relationship is when I started
to feel not confident because now it's with someone that's
not my friends, someone I don't know that well, and
(14:50):
someone that I'm not really sure if he likes me.
What does he think of me? Should I be funny?
Should I be not? Should I be serious? And I
never had a guess. With my husband was always easy.
It's not easy, but Bachelor has taught me it really
is easy because if you don't have to think about it,
and it's easy. And with The Bachelor, I don't think
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anybody of any of the girls really thought about They
were just for themselves the whole entire time, and that
was the beauty of it. The confidence level I think
with almost every single one was really like off the charts,
and I think it was great. I mean the fact
that they just said and didn't they were happy being them.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Helen, what would your girlfriend Roberta say to you about
the last year of your life?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Because she put you, she recommended you for the show.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Right, Yes, she didn't recommend me. What she did was
she pushed you, and you used her illness as a
weapon to say do this for me or else.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And you know, I loved that she's looking down, Ellen,
She's looking down.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I gotta tell you a quick story. I was there recently.
We had my really good friend Nancy from the community.
Her daughter is getting married. I'm so happy for them,
and she needed a steamer for the wedding down you know,
and Erda had a steamer in the community when she
lived in Florida. So I called her fiance to get
(16:28):
you know, I said, okay, if we go over to
the apartment and get the steamer. So we went over,
we got the steamer, and he said, while you're there,
you know, pick up a couple of things that you
might need or want, because you know, it's just sitting there.
So I said, okay, fine, it was no big deal.
And we went through all the boxes and everything and
(16:50):
everything was empty or you know, cleaned out, and all
of a sudden, I see a box and this is
the truth, honestly, I promise you. We see a box
on the dresser and we opened it up and there
were two crystal angels. I've chilled right now. I'm telling you.
(17:10):
Nancy is my witness.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
She said, oh my god, my life, because it was
like holy shit. And I just said this. This couldn't
have been here before because we would have seen it
and we would have opened it to make sure there
was nothing in it.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Don't you think she led you there?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Well. The scariest part after that was as we're leaving,
right on that same dresser, there was a little piece
of paper like behind where the angels were, And honestly,
I can't lie. It's podcast, Nancy'll ver fucking We pulled
out this paper and it was a picture of ROBERTA
(17:51):
and me sixteen years old.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Oh wow, just that.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
No other picture, no other paper.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Nothing out of nowhere. You've been in this place before,
that was never there. Now, all of a sudden, I.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Never remember seeing it. I've been there a few times
to help him straighten out and Roger straight and things,
and I had never ever ever seen it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It's so it's so funny, you know, No, it's it's
I I honestly believe that those things happen. As you know, Ellen,
my husband passed away and Easter was one of his
favorite holidays. He used to hide the eggs for the
kids and cook a big meal. It was like he
loved He loved all holidays, but cardinals. Ever since he died,
(18:38):
cardinals have been a thing. Easter morning, I'm sitting having
coffee and there are two male cardinals sitting on the limb,
just sing just staring at me. The other day and
I just sat there. I just knew. I just knew.
I believe before also said, oh, yeah, it's I'm just saying.
(19:00):
On Easter there they were again. Uh, It's just I
believe in those things. I really do.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
She's always with you, Ellen, Yeah, and she'll always be
with you. And she had a blast on the show
bringing back the show. Just for a quick second, there's
my favorite story of mind that you are involved with,
if you don't mind sharing.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's hysterical. Do you remember the night that you got
up to go to the bathroom in the middle of.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This would be called Ellen's bloopers.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh my god, share that with us again.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Okay, oh gosh, what happened? Was? You know? I always
mentioned that I have to be by the bathroom because
I go, like, we get it, I said, people our
age do.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Blah blah blah blah, we go often. Yes.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
So it's like three o'clock in the morning and I
go in the room and I'm sitting there peeing.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Whatever and doing your thing nothing, and.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
All of a sudden, I see this person walking in,
like in.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
The dark, right, they didn't turn on a light, like
like Abbie.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Walking in and not having a clue about your time
to light around three in the morning, you wake up,
just follow you away in the toilet you got, And
all of a sudden, faith person she turns around in
front of me in the toilet and starts to pull
down the pajama bars and.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You're like no, And I went no.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And honestly, she aged twenty years scared the light telling
because she didn't know anybody even in the bathroom. I
mean that, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Wait, it wasn't that better than her actually paying on
you in the middle of that.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Scared I said, in the bleep blooper, whatever, I said,
Oh god, I said, I really did. Didn't want to
get peede on it four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I mean, let's say five or six o'clock either. But
you know, people don't know how much obviously the cameras
were not on in the bedrooms, but how much fun
did we have at night after the lights went out?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
It was. You know, it's really hard to compare to
anything because they never had an experience like that. Well
especially I had an experience that was in sleep away
camp and I was and.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That's why wait, wait, can I just say sleep away
camp when she was meeting her then future husband years Yeah,
we don't know what was going on in that bug.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Raway listen to her co ed sleep away Kim, different campuses.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I was getting nervous.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You're ten, I would three different campuses, different cabins. You know,
there's a little thing called the counselor the co.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Ed in the water in the lake or anything like.
Were you with the boys as.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
We got older, we weren't angels. We will be the counselors.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Then, So wait a minute, Ellen, Ellen, you have children.
I know you do. Given your sordid, colorful past, I
would like to know what dating advice you've given your kids?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
What what?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
What dating advice have you given your kids? Your sons?
What dating advice?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Well, they did pretty good on their own. I'm not
going to give them any advice because a lot of
the advice doesn't work for me, so certainly do want
to give to them.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That was the next part of the question.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
What is it the same for you?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Well, I think being a boy or a man is
a lot different than being a female, but no longer
a vulnerable female, which is that's the advice I would
give them. Be yourself, you know, don't try to be
someone you're not.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I gave some serious dating advice, and I want to
know with the son and you as well, Kathy, you
didn't give that same advice that I gave, And that is, yeah,
give your advice wear a raincoat boys, and what no
means no? No, It's my biggest thing. When they were
young and starting to date.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I did not tell my daughter to not wear a.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Daughter, I said, son, Kathy, Son, you didn't tell them
to use protection.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I wouldn't teacher. Okay, they pretty much know all the
stuff I teach, and all the things about bart's control and.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Event what did you do, Ellen, get out of banana
with a condom and show them how to use that?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
That was only when I went high school. I didn't
you know, I can't tell you something else.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I oh, come on, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mean, no one's listening, Ellen, it's just just three here.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Please please for Gambe school for talking about this book.
I did the banana when I was teaching a ninth
grade class. Okay, so at the end of the day,
Oh god, it's so embarrassing. At the end of the day,
ninth period, one of the kids must not have beaten
lunch or something schult. I know it's weird, but it
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is like has appeal and I'm really hungry.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Did I have that?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And everybody's like, oh.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, you appeel it.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
The all I know is that I just tell them
not so much about that, because they know that's my thing.
I tell them just to be themselves and make sure
the person that there with is themselves, and that's how
the connection starts.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I got to share One of my favorite moments with
Ellen was at the Talent show that poem that that
that funny when you talked about the kids that you
were teaching and sex ed I just I enjoyed that all.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
The nicest compliment I ever got was actually from you, Susan,
when you said I would actually have paid to see
that I did. I was like, Wow, maybe that's I'm
your kay.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Do you miss Ellen? Do you miss teaching?
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I missed teaching, but I love retirement, so you can't
have both. I mean I could, but it's not the same.
So I love retirement as much as I love teaching,
so I don't miss it. I just really enjoyed it,
and my professional life was terrific. It was amazing, very
(25:26):
very lucky.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You are.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
What do you think? Is it game time yet?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Okay, Ellen, we want to play a little relationship game
of would you rather? Okay, you're ready?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Is this anything like the ice cream game? No?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
This is never have I ever know? This is not
this is what it's about dating?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
But can we just say something about them? Never have
I ever? I had never heard of that game.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I certainly acted like you did.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, I was eating ice cream that got me out
of the pool. Ellen was hungry. But what I've never heard?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I heard it. It's like they do like spin the
bottle its all, and that kind of spin the bottle, Well, Ellen,
do you remember when we did play that game. I
I'd never done anything. I'd never done any of the
things they said. I was like, I felt like path
was like this.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
No, no, if we're talking about faces, priceless, priceless. In
my entire life, I've never seen such a priceless face.
When Leslie got up at the Talent show to do
her dance, you and Theresa was next to you had
that little teeny tiny cowboy.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
She's like, I'm shocked.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You know what, I'm not a damsel like Leslie? What
can I say?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
So funny your face? I loved it. I'm so sorry.
We'll get back to the game.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Were going back to the game, because never have I
ever Yeah, came up, Never have I ever? Okay, So,
in a partner, Ellen, would you like a guy who
has in a partner that you know, a man, a guy,
your dating partner.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Now, I'm wearing a park if.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
You're in Florida, no one's wearing winter coats. Partner, partner,
have you I have the same hobbies as your partner
or different hobbies? Would you want you guys to do
the same things, same or different hobbies?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Really?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Tell me why?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Because if I'm truly with this partner. I would hope,
especially as a required partner, I would hope that we
had as much in common as possible because it's not
going to work for eight hours and coming home it's
twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Okay, So I bet you and I we need our
little bit of alone time.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I don't say that you said it. Would you like
the hobbies to be the same. I would like some
things that I do not to be exactly what he does.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But oh, okay, lot com Okay, all right, and that
goes with everybody. They should have my manicure time and
all my spot on the one hobby I'm not sharing cooking.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I want to do it all myself. Ellen, I don't cook.
It was a joke, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Okay, Ellen, and Kathy, what would mean more to you
a good morning text or a good night text?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
You mean getting one? Yes, okay?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
What do you say on good mornings? And the first
thing he thinks so when he wakes up?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I like it?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And you know what, just to be difficult, A good
night text means on the last thing he thinks of
before he goes to bed, and he's gonna have a
nice dream about.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Me, Okay, I want both. I'm just saying I want both,
and if he doesn't send me one in the morning,
I'll send him one.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Like I'm good like that. But it's nice.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, it's nice to hear from somebody when they wake
up or the last thing.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay, So basically, this guy is not going to be
doing anything but texting.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Us all day.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
All right, I've got a good one here, and this
one is especially close to me because Ellen, I think
you know this. Susan married my son and his fiance
just a few weeks ago, and my son, if he's listening,
I love my son, Kyle. But the guy cannot dance.
He's got like lead feet. He and his fance took
dance lessons for like eight months, and he wouldn't tell us.
(29:22):
We thought they were in counseling. We didn't know what
they were doing, fertility treatments. We didn't know for eight
months they were taking dance lessons. So here's the question.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Such a good job he did.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I was so proud of him. Okay, would you take
with your Parka or your partner? Would you take a
dance class together or do karaoke together?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I went out with someone for three years and we
actually did dance lessons. I think it was the most
horrifying experience of my life. Well are you Sam dancing?
And I sucked at it? I had to count in
my head. I don't know if you listen, I had
something to do with it, but.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Six for the box out to.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
But anyway, I love carrying and I all myself I
love that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Okay, but wait, are you going to do it with
your partner? What if you can't sing? What if you
can't sing?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I can't sing him?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
That was just the detail, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
One last question for you Ellen. Do you tell your
date a white lie to spare his feelings or would
you share the truth even if it hurt his feelings?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Oh, Susan, that's hard because I really don't it is.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
It's a white lie. It's we're not talking, you know,
criminal defense here, a white lie.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Something that wasn't substantial that really upset me, you know,
or sent him like something an ounce that he hadn't
you know, and he loved it. I would say it
looks very nice on you, even though it was terrible,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I would say it after that night, maybe say honey,
that's kind of out of style.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Let's retire that.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, I would try to make honestly added it later on.
Like you said, it couldn't have to be not an
important thing something that.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, No, for me, I've learned, you know, keep your
mouth shut when it except when it really matters. I
would just say gosh, honey, you look fabulous and just
go to the bathroom and laugh or something. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I would never Well, that does it for today's episode
of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. I just want to
say thank you, we both thank you Ellen for coming on.
I cannot wait to see I think we're going to
see you at the end of this week, right oh wow?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Oh yes podcast?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh well, Ellen, we'd love to have you back on
the podcast again soon, but we always enjoy chatting with you.
Thank you so much for joining us. And everyone, please
be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have
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Speaker 1 (32:12):
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Speaker 3 (32:16):
Ellen.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
You can as well submit a question something you want
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Speaker 4 (32:24):
You're doing a fantastic job. They couldn't have picked two
better people to do it, and I just can't wait
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Bye bye bye.
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
The beloved Ellen Ellen. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
We love you, I love you, Tisons and Kathy, thank
you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh Ellen, it's so always so great to see you.
Particularly you and I are such a strong bond because
we are the pickleball champions from our season. I'm never
going to live it down. I want to know are
you still playing pick a ball? How's it going?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Tell me that, yeah, I'll continue playing. Right now, I'm
a little injured, but other than that, I'm okay. I'm
waiting to get healed up and go back on the court.
Still playing, also still playing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Now, how often did you play pickleball?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Like, what is.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Or to your injury four times a week?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
That's pickleball? And what's it like being a captain?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, you always kept saying you're the captain of
your team in Florida? What does that mean to be
the captain?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Do you plan the teams? How does it work well?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
On the funny side, if I wasn't the captain, probably
you wouldn't have a team.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Because it's still controlling these I.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Wanted a team for my community in a division that
was too difficult, not too easy, you know, something right
in the middle.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And Susan's right, it's about control.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But do you do the scheduling and everything? You schedule
the game?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
It's a real it's a real sanctioned league where there's
four hundred members and it's throughout all South Florida. And
it's really an amazing way that they function with like
ten twelve divisions and then eight teams and with the
ten teams in a division and they just they do
(02:25):
the countains to check these scoring and it's really a
really big deal and work for the there's a lot
of work for the captains.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Is it all female or is it male and female? Female?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, I'm in another league that's a co ed league,
and that's I don't have to do anything because I'm
a captain. I love that week because I just so played.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So do you meet new people?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I mean, oh yeah, Well, the funniest is when you
go to other communities and you run to someone that
you went to high school with, because everybody is pretty
migrating to Florida from New York, you know, so I
met like six or seven oh god, maybe more people
from high school college that I haven't seen in twenty
thirty years.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Wait, that must be really fun. Any good guys that
you know maybe from high school that.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yes, there was one, but he's married.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh no, that's happen.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
His his wife is very very nice.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I just want I just want to focus on one
thing that you said at the beginning of this show,
which was you've been a little injured and you're coming back.
That is what we're about, right as we get older,
we were things happened, but we're still getting back out.
So I just want to applaud you that you've had
a few health issues, but you're not giving up. You're
(03:44):
not giving up. You're getting back out of the court.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Honestly, it's just you know, a really bit so our hips,
you know, I you know, think about the whole premise
of why I got on the show with Roberta, and
that's something that you can't fix. Yes, so I'm so
rateful that I have is so fixable. Yet pall that habit.
In a short time, they're back on the court again.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, and that's the positive energy. Yeah, that's the positive energy.
Speaking of the show, Ellen, give us a couple of
your favorite memories from the show besides meeting Susan and me.
Of course, well I know.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Weapiently that's definitely a big plus. But Kathy, you're in
one of those favorite moments.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I have to say, Oh, dear, Okay, go for it time.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It was good that winning the pickaball activity was so
much fun, just having fun, getting excited, cheering everybody on,
shooting the champagne all over the place, having you as
a partner.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh, you're so sweet.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
It was really a great time. But better than that, sorry, Katy,
the princess date in the balloon and.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
The well, yeah, excuse me, where are those diamond earrings?
I still want? She got about everyone needs to know.
Do you remember I tried to keep I tried to
steal them from you. Every time I say, Ellen, can
I borrow those errings?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I just try them on. I said, if I gave,
I would never get them back.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But you did share a lot of the clothing that
you were given from that Princess Date. I will say that.
Remember the heels that I couldn't even walk in? Who
has those, Edith? I believe she could walk in them?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Wait? Can I just wait? Can I just say one thing?
You got tons of clothes, Ellen, You've got these fabulous earrings.
Susan got like a frame photograph and a piece of
pink horse whatever you all got kids? I just whatever, quartz.
You know what I got, A big fat zero. Just
(05:46):
want to put that out there again, that I wasn't
the Princess Date. I didn't get. I didn't get.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I got the zip and you own it, right, I told.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You that's what I did, zip it exactly. Anyway, I
think we should talk about our topic of the day.
What do you say?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I have a good question for her, Ellen, What have
you learned that you either need more of or less
of about love after being on the show?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
What have you learned?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
A good questions? I learned that you don't want to
be with anyone if you can't be yourself. Yes, And honestly,
I get more pleasure out of just being comfortable in
a situation now where I don't have to pretend to
be someone I'm not where I used to be afraid
(06:37):
of that. You know, I had a few learning disabilities
growing up, and I was always self conscious about it.
You know, I wasn't able to read till I was
in third grade. And little things like that stay with you,
and as you get older, they don't really go away.
They just manifest itself in other ways. And The Bachelor,
believe it or not, at the age of seventy, actually
(07:01):
helped to change that and made me feel that why
would I want to be with anyone that wouldn't accept
me totally?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Totally?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Is a lot everybody has faults and a lot of
things about people that I've loved that I didn't accept
that really needed to change the behaviors. Well, sometimes they
could and sometimes they couldn't, but it depended how important
it was to me.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That is a prevailing thought. We had spoken with Nancy
on another episode, and Nancy was talking about a guy
that didn't want to date because she had some health issues,
and you're talking about learning issues again. I think being
our age and accepting ourselves for who we are and
(07:46):
looking for people who accept us who we are, that's
one of the things that separates us from the younger crowd. Truly.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, I think at this point we've accomplished most of
our goals and Nope, after doing that, if we can't
just be ourselves and enjoy that part, you know, then
and enjoy the people we're with. Like, I'm pretty selective
about the friends I pick. I'm selective about Susan.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We should feel greatful.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I wish I could be selective about them.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Then, I think, but that's the next question.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
What are you looking for in a partner now?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And has it changed what you were looking for before
the show? Have you learned anything about what you're seeking?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah? I was a people pleaser, and now I want
the people to.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Please meet amen, sister, and not an exciting way, not.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
In a way that we both can benefit and like, like,
especially Kathy sticks in my head. I want a dor
you know. I don't want to sit her.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't want to count I used to guy to guys.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I love that and I'm so glad you reminded me
of that because I want someone that is not I
used to guy. I want someone that is a doer now.
And you know, I know we're older, I know we
get injured, I know the things slow down. But it
could be as simple as enjoying the same kind of movie.
It doesn't have to all be activity, you know, saying
(09:23):
reading the same kind of books and discussing them, or
you know, going to a reserve and seeing all the
birds being born. I mean, things like that is not
super strenuous and pickleball and golf and all that. It's
just commonality. And I don't have commonality with somebody. Well
that's what happened, you know, very misleading. I went out
(09:46):
a while ago with someone that I thought was very promising. Actually,
I mean I was sort of I was sort of happy,
and then I realized that even though we had so
much in common, that his life was way more important
than mine. And I don't expect him to want to
(10:08):
do everything that I want to do, but the attention
pretty much how to be centered around him.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And that's I think you're saying that, Ellen. It's it's
you're not going to settle at this stage.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I want to be shared, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, but also you saw that as a red flag
and you didn't. I think when we were younger, we
try to change red flags into white flags, and you
didn't even try it. I think good on you.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
For me, I recently met a guy recently that's very
sweet and kind and fun and nice, and you know
there's possibilities there. I'm going to see him in not
too long from now.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, so can I ask you, Ellen? Are you on
a dating site? Is that how you met him? Or
in fact go into your d M.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
The first one was through pickleball friends through the league.
Actually one of the other teams from another league suggested it.
And then uh, this second person is somebody that I
met in a restaurant gathering. It was to promote the restaurant,
so I was invited to go there, not as not
(11:15):
as Ellen goes back, just just as Ellen's friends, you know,
And it just happened that, you know, he came over
and said hello, and it was very casual.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So you know what I'm hearing here, Ellen? You you
are doing what I wish more women and men our
age would do. You're not sitting back waiting for the
guys to come to you, and I've gotten now. You
go out and you do things and you look and
when you get out and put yourself out there, people
come into your life. It's I think that is uh amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
What's really important is what really is important is the
thing that you like to do is where you're going
to find the people that like to do it too.
So I don't really love the bar scene. I didn't
mind the intro to the restaurant that was sort of okay,
it was nice, But I would be uncomfortable in a
bar scene. But I would be uncomfortable in meeting someone
(12:13):
at a golf course, or I wouldn't be uncomfortable meeting
somebody at a movie festival. You know, these are things
that I would like because these things that he would
like as well.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So it's so you have something in common.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, But the best thing is being recommended or somebody
referring someone that's the best.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It sounds like a business Dale Ellen, Yeah, could you
recommend a nice, good looking man. I referrals recommendation.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I know if a friend says I know someone that
would be perfect, I know you and I know, yeah
that's the best.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Have you ever been on dating sites and will you
go back on?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Ever?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I was on datings the bost a while, so yes,
I was on dating sites and no, I will never
go back.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Isn't that funny? I think we all feel the same way.
I was on the I think all of them.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And as the show for get it right.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, it's funny, not because they're not good. And some people.
A lot of my fam are married through dating sites.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I marry so many couples that have met on dating
sites all the time.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
My son that just got married and he formed the ceremony.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So Ellen, I don't know. I mean, I know you
pretty well, but I actually don't know very much about
your marriage, and I you know whatever, you're comfortable, shame,
but I really want to know how you're different now
and do you want to get married again?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I was very confident with the person I was married
to for twenty five years. We were friends first. We
know each other since my ten years old sleep boy Camp.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Sorry did you say sleepwoay Camp?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yes, you shared this story with me, I remember, Okay,
keep going.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I want to hear that.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
And we've been friends for you know, forever, since ten
years old, and we're still friends today, I mean really
good friends. And just we separated into different paths. We
were both going to go in the field of education.
He wasn't supposed he couldn't get into it as very
bad timing for teachers at the time, and we went
(14:28):
different ways. But that's not even the issue. The issue
is that we had a good relationship and I've always
felt confident with him and always felt comfortable with him.
It's when I left the relationship is when I started
to feel not confident because now it's with someone that's
not my friends, someone I don't know that well, and
(14:50):
someone that I'm not really sure if he likes me.
What does he think of me? Should I be funny?
Should I be not? Should I be serious? And I
never had a guess. With my husband was always easy.
It's not easy, but Bachelor has taught me it really
is easy because if you don't have to think about it,
and it's easy. And with The Bachelor, I don't think
(15:13):
anybody of any of the girls really thought about They
were just for themselves the whole entire time, and that
was the beauty of it. The confidence level I think
with almost every single one was really like off the charts,
and I think it was great. I mean the fact
that they just said and didn't they were happy being them.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Helen, what would your girlfriend Roberta say to you about
the last year of your life?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Because she put you, she recommended you for the show.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Right, Yes, she didn't recommend me. What she did was
she pushed you, and you used her illness as a
weapon to say do this for me or else.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And you know, I loved that she's looking down, Ellen,
She's looking down.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I gotta tell you a quick story. I was there recently.
We had my really good friend Nancy from the community.
Her daughter is getting married. I'm so happy for them,
and she needed a steamer for the wedding down you know,
and Erda had a steamer in the community when she
lived in Florida. So I called her fiance to get
(16:28):
you know, I said, okay, if we go over to
the apartment and get the steamer. So we went over,
we got the steamer, and he said, while you're there,
you know, pick up a couple of things that you
might need or want, because you know, it's just sitting there.
So I said, okay, fine, it was no big deal.
And we went through all the boxes and everything and
(16:50):
everything was empty or you know, cleaned out, and all
of a sudden, I see a box and this is
the truth, honestly, I promise you. We see a box
on the dresser and we opened it up and there
were two crystal angels. I've chilled right now. I'm telling you.
(17:10):
Nancy is my witness.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
She said, oh my god, my life, because it was
like holy shit. And I just said this. This couldn't
have been here before because we would have seen it
and we would have opened it to make sure there
was nothing in it.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Don't you think she led you there?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Well. The scariest part after that was as we're leaving,
right on that same dresser, there was a little piece
of paper like behind where the angels were, And honestly,
I can't lie. It's podcast, Nancy'll ver fucking We pulled
out this paper and it was a picture of ROBERTA
(17:51):
and me sixteen years old.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Oh wow, just that.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
No other picture, no other paper.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Nothing out of nowhere. You've been in this place before,
that was never there. Now, all of a sudden, I.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Never remember seeing it. I've been there a few times
to help him straighten out and Roger straight and things,
and I had never ever ever seen it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It's so it's so funny, you know, No, it's it's
I I honestly believe that those things happen. As you know, Ellen,
my husband passed away and Easter was one of his
favorite holidays. He used to hide the eggs for the
kids and cook a big meal. It was like he
loved He loved all holidays, but cardinals. Ever since he died,
(18:38):
cardinals have been a thing. Easter morning, I'm sitting having
coffee and there are two male cardinals sitting on the limb,
just sing just staring at me. The other day and
I just sat there. I just knew. I just knew.
I believe before also said, oh, yeah, it's I'm just saying.
(19:00):
On Easter there they were again. Uh, It's just I
believe in those things. I really do.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
She's always with you, Ellen, Yeah, and she'll always be
with you. And she had a blast on the show
bringing back the show. Just for a quick second, there's
my favorite story of mind that you are involved with,
if you don't mind sharing.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's hysterical. Do you remember the night that you got
up to go to the bathroom in the middle of.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This would be called Ellen's bloopers.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh my god, share that with us again.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Okay, oh gosh, what happened? Was? You know? I always
mentioned that I have to be by the bathroom because
I go, like, we get it, I said, people our
age do.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Blah blah blah blah, we go often. Yes.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
So it's like three o'clock in the morning and I
go in the room and I'm sitting there peeing.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Whatever and doing your thing nothing, and.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
All of a sudden, I see this person walking in,
like in.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
The dark, right, they didn't turn on a light, like
like Abbie.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Walking in and not having a clue about your time
to light around three in the morning, you wake up,
just follow you away in the toilet you got, And
all of a sudden, faith person she turns around in
front of me in the toilet and starts to pull
down the pajama bars and.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You're like no, And I went no.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And honestly, she aged twenty years scared the light telling
because she didn't know anybody even in the bathroom. I
mean that, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Wait, it wasn't that better than her actually paying on
you in the middle of that.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Scared I said, in the bleep blooper, whatever, I said,
Oh god, I said, I really did. Didn't want to
get peede on it four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I mean, let's say five or six o'clock either. But
you know, people don't know how much obviously the cameras
were not on in the bedrooms, but how much fun
did we have at night after the lights went out?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
It was. You know, it's really hard to compare to
anything because they never had an experience like that. Well
especially I had an experience that was in sleep away
camp and I was and.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That's why wait, wait, can I just say sleep away
camp when she was meeting her then future husband years Yeah,
we don't know what was going on in that bug.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Raway listen to her co ed sleep away Kim, different campuses.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I was getting nervous.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You're ten, I would three different campuses, different cabins. You know,
there's a little thing called the counselor the co.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Ed in the water in the lake or anything like.
Were you with the boys as.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
We got older, we weren't angels. We will be the counselors.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Then, So wait a minute, Ellen, Ellen, you have children.
I know you do. Given your sordid, colorful past, I
would like to know what dating advice you've given your kids?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
What what?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
What dating advice have you given your kids? Your sons?
What dating advice?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Well, they did pretty good on their own. I'm not
going to give them any advice because a lot of
the advice doesn't work for me, so certainly do want
to give to them.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That was the next part of the question.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
What is it the same for you?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Well, I think being a boy or a man is
a lot different than being a female, but no longer
a vulnerable female, which is that's the advice I would
give them. Be yourself, you know, don't try to be
someone you're not.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I gave some serious dating advice, and I want to
know with the son and you as well, Kathy, you
didn't give that same advice that I gave, And that is, yeah,
give your advice wear a raincoat boys, and what no
means no? No, It's my biggest thing. When they were
young and starting to date.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I did not tell my daughter to not wear a.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Daughter, I said, son, Kathy, Son, you didn't tell them
to use protection.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I wouldn't teacher. Okay, they pretty much know all the
stuff I teach, and all the things about bart's control and.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Event what did you do, Ellen, get out of banana
with a condom and show them how to use that?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
That was only when I went high school. I didn't
you know, I can't tell you something else.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I oh, come on, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mean, no one's listening, Ellen, it's just just three here.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Please please for Gambe school for talking about this book.
I did the banana when I was teaching a ninth
grade class. Okay, so at the end of the day,
Oh god, it's so embarrassing. At the end of the day,
ninth period, one of the kids must not have beaten
lunch or something schult. I know it's weird, but it
(24:02):
is like has appeal and I'm really hungry.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Did I have that?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And everybody's like, oh.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, you appeel it.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
The all I know is that I just tell them
not so much about that, because they know that's my thing.
I tell them just to be themselves and make sure
the person that there with is themselves, and that's how
the connection starts.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I got to share One of my favorite moments with
Ellen was at the Talent show that poem that that
that funny when you talked about the kids that you
were teaching and sex ed I just I enjoyed that all.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
The nicest compliment I ever got was actually from you, Susan,
when you said I would actually have paid to see
that I did. I was like, Wow, maybe that's I'm
your kay.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Do you miss Ellen? Do you miss teaching?
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I missed teaching, but I love retirement, so you can't
have both. I mean I could, but it's not the same.
So I love retirement as much as I love teaching,
so I don't miss it. I just really enjoyed it,
and my professional life was terrific. It was amazing, very
(25:26):
very lucky.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You are.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
What do you think? Is it game time yet?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Okay, Ellen, we want to play a little relationship game
of would you rather? Okay, you're ready?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Is this anything like the ice cream game? No?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
This is never have I ever know? This is not
this is what it's about dating?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
But can we just say something about them? Never have
I ever? I had never heard of that game.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I certainly acted like you did.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, I was eating ice cream that got me out
of the pool. Ellen was hungry. But what I've never heard?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I heard it. It's like they do like spin the
bottle its all, and that kind of spin the bottle, Well, Ellen,
do you remember when we did play that game. I
I'd never done anything. I'd never done any of the
things they said. I was like, I felt like path
was like this.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
No, no, if we're talking about faces, priceless, priceless. In
my entire life, I've never seen such a priceless face.
When Leslie got up at the Talent show to do
her dance, you and Theresa was next to you had
that little teeny tiny cowboy.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
She's like, I'm shocked.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You know what, I'm not a damsel like Leslie? What
can I say?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
So funny your face? I loved it. I'm so sorry.
We'll get back to the game.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Were going back to the game, because never have I
ever Yeah, came up, Never have I ever? Okay, So,
in a partner, Ellen, would you like a guy who
has in a partner that you know, a man, a guy,
your dating partner.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Now, I'm wearing a park if.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
You're in Florida, no one's wearing winter coats. Partner, partner,
have you I have the same hobbies as your partner
or different hobbies? Would you want you guys to do
the same things, same or different hobbies?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Really?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Tell me why?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Because if I'm truly with this partner. I would hope,
especially as a required partner, I would hope that we
had as much in common as possible because it's not
going to work for eight hours and coming home it's
twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Okay, So I bet you and I we need our
little bit of alone time.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I don't say that you said it. Would you like
the hobbies to be the same. I would like some
things that I do not to be exactly what he does.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But oh, okay, lot com Okay, all right, and that
goes with everybody. They should have my manicure time and
all my spot on the one hobby I'm not sharing cooking.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I want to do it all myself. Ellen, I don't cook.
It was a joke, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Okay, Ellen, and Kathy, what would mean more to you
a good morning text or a good night text?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
You mean getting one? Yes, okay?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
What do you say on good mornings? And the first
thing he thinks so when he wakes up?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I like it?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And you know what, just to be difficult, A good
night text means on the last thing he thinks of
before he goes to bed, and he's gonna have a
nice dream about.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Me, Okay, I want both. I'm just saying I want both,
and if he doesn't send me one in the morning,
I'll send him one.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Like I'm good like that. But it's nice.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, it's nice to hear from somebody when they wake
up or the last thing.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay, So basically, this guy is not going to be
doing anything but texting.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Us all day.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
All right, I've got a good one here, and this
one is especially close to me because Ellen, I think
you know this. Susan married my son and his fiance
just a few weeks ago, and my son, if he's listening,
I love my son, Kyle. But the guy cannot dance.
He's got like lead feet. He and his fance took
dance lessons for like eight months, and he wouldn't tell us.
(29:22):
We thought they were in counseling. We didn't know what
they were doing, fertility treatments. We didn't know for eight
months they were taking dance lessons. So here's the question.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Such a good job he did.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I was so proud of him. Okay, would you take
with your Parka or your partner? Would you take a
dance class together or do karaoke together?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I went out with someone for three years and we
actually did dance lessons. I think it was the most
horrifying experience of my life. Well are you Sam dancing?
And I sucked at it? I had to count in
my head. I don't know if you listen, I had
something to do with it, but.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Six for the box out to.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
But anyway, I love carrying and I all myself I
love that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Okay, but wait, are you going to do it with
your partner? What if you can't sing? What if you
can't sing?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I can't sing him?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
That was just the detail, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
One last question for you Ellen. Do you tell your
date a white lie to spare his feelings or would
you share the truth even if it hurt his feelings?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Oh, Susan, that's hard because I really don't it is.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
It's a white lie. It's we're not talking, you know,
criminal defense here, a white lie.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Something that wasn't substantial that really upset me, you know,
or sent him like something an ounce that he hadn't
you know, and he loved it. I would say it
looks very nice on you, even though it was terrible,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I would say it after that night, maybe say honey,
that's kind of out of style.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Let's retire that.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, I would try to make honestly added it later on.
Like you said, it couldn't have to be not an
important thing something that.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, No, for me, I've learned, you know, keep your
mouth shut when it except when it really matters. I
would just say gosh, honey, you look fabulous and just
go to the bathroom and laugh or something. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I would never Well, that does it for today's episode
of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. I just want to
say thank you, we both thank you Ellen for coming on.
I cannot wait to see I think we're going to
see you at the end of this week, right oh wow?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Oh yes podcast?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh well, Ellen, we'd love to have you back on
the podcast again soon, but we always enjoy chatting with you.
Thank you so much for joining us. And everyone, please
be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have
lots of new episodes coming out a couple of times
a week and you don't want to miss even one
of them.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
And you're gonna hear me again. Please submit your questions
to us.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Ellen.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
You can as well submit a question something you want
to hear us talk about, because we will can that
I think.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
You're doing a fantastic job. They couldn't have picked two
better people to do it, and I just can't wait
to see you next week. I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Thank you, Thank you, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
You can go to bachelornation dot com or hit us
up on the social at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And please do listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour
on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Until next time, we'll see you later.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Bye bye bye.
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