April 10, 2024 • 34 mins
Today on Golden Hour, Kathy and Susan are chatting with Rachel from Joey’s season, and Rachel is sharing all her post-show updates. From really feeling the warmth of Bachelor Nation’s love to how she navigated the hate, and of course all things Joey, we’re getting it all.
Plus, Rachel, Susan and Kathy chat about all things dating: Rachel’s dating life pre-Joey, what’s to come, and of course some Golden advice from Kathy and Susan. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank you
again for joining us. We are excited to be back,
right Kathy.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Please do it so we can talk to you and
find out what's going on in your world. But today
we're so excited, especially excited. We have a very very
very special guest and you know her and love her
from Joey season of The Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hi Rachel, Hi guys, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
What's going on in your world right now?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You know, just busy busy, was work and kind of
navigating after everything, but it's been fun and creating at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Do you love it? You had to love your experience?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's obviously it all came out of nowhere and trying
to navigate my career on top of everything that happening
post show. But I mean it's I'm enjoying every moment
of it.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Honestly, you know, it was so special for me, Rachel,
to be able to sit with you and really really
get to know you. I think the world had something
to say about it as well, and they were all beautiful,
beautiful things.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I love you like one of my own. I really do.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
My mom when she watched it, she goes you and Auntie, Susan,
you guys connected, Hanna said, we.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Did in a big way, a big way.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Like she's family, and my Mom's like, oh, she just
seems like she has the best energy. You know what
she does, She's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I would love to meet your family.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I owe you one.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And then our reunions of like women tell all after
the final verse, and they're always in these big places
with lots of people. I want you one on one,
I really do. We gotta go for coffee or our
meal or a cuptail and Kathy will join natural.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm gonna have to join in on somebody. This can
I come to.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You're always invited, So I want.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
To know you just alluded at the top of the
show here about life after the show. It's a check
in for you. How are you doing post show? What's
going on? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean, things have definitely gotten better for me since
I was getting that hate that I spoke about at
the reunion, things have definitely calmed down. The support and
love has been just I didn't expect all the support
to finally, I guess drawna all the hate. So it's
been very nice.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Which is a perfect statement.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We get so much love, but one negative or ten
negatives seem to weigh on us so much more than
all the love. Yeah, you gotta focus only on the love.
And you know what, we get it too.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, I say, Rachel, you you intimated that it was
some Rachel racial slurs coming your way. I mean, I said,
zip it, and you know I have paid, dear, I know,
really right, zip it for that. But honestly, since I've
talked a lot about this, what does it feel like
(03:15):
for us? It's just you try to ignore it, but
it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I mean, it's definitely easier to ignore the the comments
like oh you're boring, or like Joey doesn't like you.
Those are obviously way easier, but when it comes.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
They said Joey doesn't like you?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Are they Joey?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I mean, how how do you people say these things?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But Also, that's why it's funny, because that's just them
speculating off of an episode or off of me being
shown for five minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So those were obviously easy to ignore. But when it
comes to things talking about just my culture, my family,
or my skin color, things like that, it can be
hard to ignore. But my dad's always told me to
never use discrimination as a crutch, and I've never wanted
that to be a reason to get sympathy from other people.
But it just made me stronger as a person and
(04:08):
just kind of realize that that's someone's flaw, that's someone's.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Definitely the high road for sure, for sure. So you know,
you you talk about we all know that, you know,
you and Joey definitely had a connection and he's now
classified as one of your exes. But yeah, do tell us,
we want to know what do all of your exes
have in common life? What's the what is the trait
(04:35):
that sort of come on? Good question?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Great, I know, because I mean Joey's kind of like
the favorite X right now, right like, there was there
was no you know, there's no no wrong doing on
either side. It was just the end of our journey
and that's the beautiful part about it. But my ex
is separate from Joey or.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Do they have anything in common anybody that you dated?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Sorry, they cheated kind.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Of like what Oh and he was doing it right
in front of your face, but.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That was allowed. That's okay. That's not a cheating suasan.
That's called dating on a TV show. Oh wow, so
they all cheated. How did you find out?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So two of I'm trying to so I would say
I had three serious relationships. They're great, I mean, separate
from my stating, they're amazing people. I never want to
talk bad about an ex. I think cheating is obviously
a personal choice, so you know, that's on them for
what they did. But I remember the one ex I had,
who I swear I was going to marry, like love
(05:40):
my life, first love. He was sleeping over my house,
which is a huge thing for my family, and my
parents were like, he can sleep over, just don't stay
in the same bed, never b downstairs in the living room.
But it was we kept PG, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Your parents asked you have to. Oh, no, I respect that,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yes, exactly. But I got a brand new phone and
I asked him and I was like, oh, can I
text my new phone. I don't think it's working. And
I've never looked in someone's phone before. It has never
been a part of me. And something in the back
of my head maybe it was my woman intuition. Yes,
by telling me is like, just just look at a
text message. So when I opened up his messages, there
(06:22):
was like two unsafe numbers and the text were like, oh,
he looks so good. When can I see you next?
Or something like that out and so I just I
had ignored it. And then something else told me just
look at his instagram. I was like, okay, I've never
done that. Went on his Instagram and I went in
his messages and it was a girl that I knew.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of who they were seeing each other, having some good
times but.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Doing the deeds. Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Wow, he's amazing. His family is amazing. I'm so very
close to his family. It's a you know, we were.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Still okay pause pause pause, you're still giving him kudos
forfing around on you. I'm not telling you the truth.
I'm sorry, that's not okay.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Wait a minute, excuse me. You're the one that's always
saying I want to I want to crucify them. And
you're always like, Okay, let it go. Yeah, that's why
I'm saying, don't forgive him. Euro was saying, forgive Rachel.
You're doing the right thing. Forgiven, so I'll make you happier.
It's about you.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I've forgive him for what he did. At the end
of the day, it was meant to be. It wouldn't
have happened. I learned a lot about valuing myself and
my family through that time and kind of knowing what
I deserve. It was a tough time for me, but
we're both civil. I respect him, he respects me, to
respect our families. But yeah, I got just one of
the heart. There's two other ones with countraumatics. I just
(07:39):
feel like it's.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Just it's how old were you? How old were you
with that? You said it was your first love? How
old were you?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
So we started dating senior year of high school, and
then we were together through college, and then we were
on and off for I think two or three years
after that. So from like seventeen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Can I just say you sound exactly like my daughter dated?
Sorry call me. Oh she's married now with almost one
year old daughter married me. She is married. The best
man in the world if he had a brother, I'd said,
But that same thing happened to her, and I asked her,
so I have to ask you, do you feel like
(08:19):
that you wasted I don't like the word waste, because
I don't think any experience is a waste of time.
But do you feel like you missed out on some
of the college experiences because you dated him during college?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Oh? Absolutely not. I think I'm so grateful to the
racial relationship I had with him because it was just
a pure if we're separating the cheating, it was so
pure in the sense of, like, you know, when we
first started dating, we didn't have jobs, but he would
always provide, like take me on dates and pay for
my meals and open.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
My door a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
He was a gentleman, and so I can learn.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Cheating gentleman a gentleman. Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But one of the things that Rachel and I talked
about in Mexico was you being able to trust again.
Obviously it caused some trust issues with you, and for
you to be able to open up to Joey and
give him your whole self.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah. And I also I did speak with Susan
about this I've been in a relationship that was abusive
as well. So my track record, I mean it went
from my first life in high school he cheated on me,
I was like, Okay, it happens, and I went to
an abusive relationship, and so I really struggled with I
thought I trusted the right people, and then they would
always kind of spikee me in the butt at the end.
(09:37):
But and then when I went on the show and
I met Joey, and even though he wasn't my person,
the friendship that we had really taught me that I
can open up somebody and trust and everybody and trust
somebody and they can treat me well. So I'm still
working on that. I think I think I finally reached
a point where I know what I deserve.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
As isn't that a beautiful thing that you got to
walk away with right?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So you're very close with your family, as you said,
And you know, I know most girls I did look
up to my dad, and I know you do to yours.
What what qualities in your dad? Like, what what would
you like to find in a guy that your dad possesses?
You know, what qualities?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, I mean, besides the fact that he treats my
mom like an absolute queen.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's enough right there for me. Treat me like a queen. Yeah,
he does he have a brother. I'm always asking the
same question.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
My dad comes from a family. There's thirteen fourteen, thirteen
kids fourteen. Yeah, he's nine sisters.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And always smoked.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Wow, I Know'm sorry. He's from a huge family. I
come from a huge family. So I guess his the
respect she has for his sisters just really shows, you know,
with how he treats my mom. And he's a girl dad.
He has three daughters, me and my other two sisters.
So the example he set for me of just how
patient he is with my mom and how he listens
(11:08):
to her and just the I guess in a traditional sense,
he's just such a provider and a protector of her,
and he also doesn't take away from her light as
an independent and strong woman.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know, what's so beautiful that she is recognizing all this.
Nobody told her that, Nobody told her that she's watched
that grown up. And there's so many people out there
that come from broken families or abusive families and they
don't get to have what you just said.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
That's beautiful and.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
My appreciation from it comes as well, comes from the
fact that both my parents were divorced before they met,
so I do have a couple half siblings who obviously
consider my whole siblings. And so that dynamic of seeing
how they had to navigate through having a child before
they met and how we had kind of had a
(11:56):
blended family also showed me how strong my dad is
and how from my mom is too because they kept
us as close as Yeah, it just showed love all
the time. Obviously our family isn't perfect. Uh, we're kind
of crazy and we're loud, but.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The Italians come on, that's that's the definition of family.
But you know, I I someone told me this once.
Watch how a son treats his mother. And that's the guy.
He's going to treat you the way he treats his mother.
So you know, there's you can put that one in
your little book of We.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Can't change that red flag, right, So I keeping you
can never make a red flag of white flag ever.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So Rachel, tell me about your work.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Oh so we all know I'm a nurse. Yes, new information.
I actually had work yesterday. I'm actually so exhausted. But
I mean I absolutely love it. It's it's definitely a
passion of mine. I didn't think I would become a nurse.
My dad worked in trauma back in Hawaii at one
of the major hospitals there, so I kind of grew
up just hearing his stories and he would show me
(13:15):
pictures and I was like, wow, that's so cool. But
I hated school math and science.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Science. Nursing school is hard.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I know it's hard.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
How my niece is going through it.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh yeah, you just told me.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That, but real quick, I have to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You just pronounced to what how you I'm reading this
book that not a client, a woman that I renewed
her vows, and it's called aloha, and I knew aloha
was hello and go by. It has several other meanings,
so I never knew that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, there's love, love and also like because hog the words,
that's the breath of life, right, and so that's also
why we call like foreigners people who come to Way,
we call them howy.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
But it's like yes, which means yes, yes, yes in
the book, I know I love this, Okay, I want
to ask, so I want to that is that's really interesting?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
But since you know we're talking about dating, and God knows,
I need as much help as I can get. I
want to know, Rachel, would you ever date someone in
the workplace, a doctor?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
That was my question, since you're in the hospital, nurses
and doctors do a lot of you.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, are you.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Comfortable with that or is it because it's so big
that people wouldn't know?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Or how do you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I what is that saying?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Don't don't don't don't ship?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So I'm thankfully because I'm a travelers. I'm usually at
one hospital for three months and I move on, so
it's not the worst thing in the world. But I
also love that when I go to work, it's my place,
it's my space. I'm doing what I enjoy. I don't
have to think about my partner being there. But I
would date someone who's in the same I guess career.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Field, line of work.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Right, Okay, that's something to talk about, I guess.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But how about any fears going back into the dating world,
And what is something about love that scares you?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I'm honestly not terrified about love. I love being in love.
I think everyone loves to be in love. Everyone wants
to know that someone loves them. I think it's such
a beautiful part of life, and that's and that's how
the world goes around in a sense. But I mean,
I'm not scared of love, but I am nervous, and
pardon me, is nervous to get back into dating because
(15:48):
I don't know that people would think me being on
a dating.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Show that have a whole new impression of it right.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
In a different way. Maybe if they watch the show,
they'll realize that I just am complete the same on
TV and off TV. But I'm really open to anything.
I just hope people know that my standards may make
me look picky, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Just not never settle, Rachel, never settle.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
That's so important that she just said that, because my
standards have to being on the show. Now, I'm being
really true to myself before, like you always teach me
about the red flag and I make it yellow and
slide through and realize how many months later I'm not happy,
But now I know very good.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And then there's me who never settles, And then I
wonder why I can't get a date, you know, because
I'm looking for perfection all the time. But I want
to ask you, Rachel, so obviously Susan and I were
on the Golden Bachelor, and we were the first ones
to do that show, so we don't have the years
of experience that the younger Bachelor and Bacheorettes have. So
(16:50):
I want to know. I know you have a lot
of good friends from from the show, Joey, you know
from the other shows, but what couple is your idea
of a really good relationship, the relationship goals that you'd
like to meet.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I absolutely love Serena and Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yes, I mean who does.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
They're a durable Also, I'm so new to this whole Vacherination.
I'm slowly starting to learn about everybody. So my best
friends were kind of educating me on Vacherination. But when
I finally met Surena and Joe, they are just so
me and pure. And I think some people are skeptical
of this process and of this whole idea of being
(17:30):
on a reality show to date, but when you look
at Suena and Joe, I mean, it's just so apparent
that it can where it works and person and the
maturity love that you're at when you go into this.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So yeah, Rachel, you shared with me that you weren't
allowed for your hometown to go to your actual hometown.
Tell me what a hometown date in Hawaii would have
been like.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
That would have been nuts.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I like it now, not just any date we were
want to hear the perfect dream date, Rachel.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Perfect dream date in Hawaii. Okay, So my favorite place
on my island is the North Shore. So I would
have loved to go to my favorite beach, which is Sunset.
I used to skip school and go there all the time,
and I would go to this there's this sandwich top
that's just nostalgic for me. And it's also in the
North Shore. So I would have spent the whole day there.
And it's very grounding when you go to a place
(18:24):
that you were actually raised, because that's just a huge
part of who you are. Yeah, it's your roots. And
Hawaii beings so beautiful and so rich, kind of like
a melting pot, I guess of the Pacific. I just
wanted to immerse him in that. But I also wanted
him to come to my house that I was raising
because I was homeschooled all the way to high school.
(18:45):
So my classroom, like my little classroom is there.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all still there.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I was homeschooled, was there and like all those things,
So there's obviously more I would have loved to do.
But I think just showing him more of who I
am would have been great. In Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Wow, Wow, that's really nice. I didn't. I did not
know that you were homeschool No one does.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean I thought I did I.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Know.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Susan, second, I did love her.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah. I would tell people like, oh, I was homeschool
They're like, but you're so social, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So I was in education for thirty six years, So
it's very That's why I'm asking it's very interesting either.
Did you like being homeschooled?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I mean, I think my experience of of homeschool it
was different than I think in the main line like
how they do it because sometimes in class would go
to the beach and we would kind of just walk across.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
From Really that's school. That's really hello experience. If my
dive is it a blue Sea school can be experiential. Susan, Yeah,
would you homeschool your kids?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I would be open to it, But I'm also very
much a career type of woman. So I mean, if
I had time to somehow do both with my future
partner then maybe, But I also loved my mom threw
me into public school at the best time, and I
met such amazing people and like my best friend I
met in public school. So I also think there's great
(20:12):
experiences to be had when you go into a school
with more students.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
When you were being home school, did you feel like
you were not having enough friends or missing out on
something or you didn't realize it then.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I didn't realize it then because a my cousins went
to public school and in a way we would go
to high school events with them, like their games. So
and our family is so huge. I always thought I
was around hundreds of people all the time. That's also
why my social skills are great. And my mom would
when we were younger, if we went out to restaurants
or the grocery store, she'd have us go talk to
the waitress by myself. She's like, go speak, you're fine.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So, no, did you have to order the cold cuts
by yourself?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I have to order my mom have me called from
my own dentist appointment when I was like eight years old.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Wow, she really taught. But Rachel, look at you. Your
strong and you're independent, and you know what you want,
so you know what your mother did the right thing.
In my opinion, I think it's great my parents did.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I mean, my parents did it right. They used to
have me fill out checks when I was really young too,
and like a tax paper, so they really taught. Wow,
it's sound like the foundation that we needed. So when
I did public school, I thought public school was a
breathe because I was like my parents pretty.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Much, because you knew your thank kudos to your mom
and dad. So your family clearly, clearly is important to you.
And we saw on Joey's season how important the cultural
your family's culture is to you.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I'm curious, regardless of who you marry, what what of
those traditions would you want to bring into your marriage
because I know when I got married, I was very young,
but my husband and I each had family traditions from
our own separate films that we try to incorporate. What
ones would you want to bring with you?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean, definitely the traditional greeting that everyone crazy about.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Right, Joey nailed that he did all he did.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Amazing, but it's it's also things that you don't see
on camera. You know, things that my mom taught me
you know, when when you're sleeping next to someone who's
older than you, make sure your head is below them.
It's just a kind of respect that you're that you're
younger than them.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Well, what when you're sleeping you have to be lower.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yes, when I've seen next to my sister, my mom
would go, oh oh, honey, no go lower because you're
your show respect to your sisters.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't cand I just explain how this is going
to work for you. And you're taller than when I
sleeping together. When we find out when we find a guy,
he's always taller, our heads are going to be through
the head door. It's not about honey, here's a good one, Rachel.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Do you have any questions for Kathy and I about
love or relationships?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
So many? Because I know you guys have had You know,
you have all this experience ahead of me, and you
know you guys being I quote older, you know, it
just makes you ten times.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You don't have put quotes around, quotes around it.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Because I wouldn't consider you guys older. I think age
is just all about wisdom, and I think there's something
so wonderful about you know it. I just have such
a respect for you guys, knowing that you've been through
things that I can't even imagine. I can't even fathom.
So I guess I would ask you how would you
both define love or true love?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
One of the things going back for a second, because
you hit a good point. My mother's girlfriends would try
to give me advice and stuff when I was younger,
Like you know, twenty.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You don't listen to that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Even though we do have wisdom and experience, whatever we
say is not going to be and you could hear it,
but you have to live it.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But you know what, Yes, I would agree with that,
But Rachel, I think when you say you have so
many questions, I think some people are more open than
others to just hearing what we have to say, and
then when they're with another person in a relationship, something
might spark something, you know, Kathy and Susan said, I
(23:57):
think that's what it's about. Just don't know, but I
want to hear your ane.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I'm a hopeless romantic, much like yourself. I'm in love
with being in love. I wear my heart on my sleeve.
That will never change because that's being true to myself.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's who I am. I don't know. For me, love
to me it sounds like something out of a poetry book.
But for me, love is that feeling that I don't
want to spend another day by myself. I want that
person to experience things with me. I want to share things,
(24:32):
you know, the best friend, finding your best friend, someone
that you know. I'm in the last chapter of my life.
It's going to last about fifty years, but my best
best chapter. But I want it to be the best
chapter with someone. And I think that love looks a
little different as you get older, but I believe in love.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Since we're generations apart here and you've got all this
experience ahead of you, and I am a phone call
away from holding your hand through anything that you're about
to walk through.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I just want you to.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Note that I'll be calling you. Don't you worry it.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I know you will.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Let's do the generation gap game, Rachel, I'm giving you
my number two.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'm left. I'm sorry, Kathy, I call you a problem.
She pulls.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's a triangle, all right, listen, what about a little
game with Rachel.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Okay, generation gap this or that? You ready? Rachel, generation
gap this or that? We're just going to throw some
questions and you're going to pick this one or that one.
So here's the first one. Sliding into the DMS or
send it an email? I think either or it's about
(25:52):
the same thing, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yes, I mean I'm considering my Gmail my social media too.
I'm always on it. I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
In d MS that just feels more immediate to me.
The d M.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, my email before my I mean, if you.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
If you email me, you know it maybe three days
it's buried in that DM. It's like blinking at you.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Instagram or TikTok. Yeah, oh they're one and the same
to now.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
My Instagram, I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah. How about all right, here's catching up with a
friend texting or calling? This is my own personal will
I prefer Oh so do I put so many younger
people it's all about texting. You can't read emotion in text.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, I think this younger generation, I mean, I'm probably
in this younger generation whatever, but I think, uh there,
it's just so easy, so they can like not have
what is what is the think of the word urgency.
They're so numb to an actual connection with people, and
it's so they're so quick to text. They can go
about their day. I'd rather sit see you, feel you.
Let's discuss what's going.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
On, which which brings to mind the people behind their
computers making the negative comments. They're not showing their face,
They're hiding behind something. So me, a text is when
I don't have time to talk. I can't talk, but
da da D D or I love you or talk
to you later.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But a phone call is real. I just find people
have their heads in their phone, you know, on the
screen so much. I'm just surprised to hear you say.
I love hearing you say a phone call.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I prefer a FaceTime too, because I'd rather just see
your face.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, that's always fun. Oh, Kathy gets me at the
worst time. To Susan, are you serious? You're naked, you're
getting out the shower. Why do you answer the phone?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Anty season? Were you eating something?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Probably? Yes, I'm always eating, Susan, eating right every two hours.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's okay, here, I got I have.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
This is the thing with Susan me that we constantly
talk about dating someone older than you or dating someone
younger than you.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Older. Either I would say older.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, because you're young. I would say younger because I'm
running out of options. Go either way.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I mean, I think it really depends on the person.
My dad's younger than my mom and.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
How much how much young honestly, not that much.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I think it's like two years. But he also through
his life experiences. My dad's just really mature. But I
also see guys who are younger than me and they're
they're just not there. It's just not well.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I think women mature quicker than men. So in your
twenties and younger, that's the case. Yeah, I totally get that.
How about ghosting today, that's one of my part. Would
you rather break up in person, have respect and have
a conversation.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Or ghost them?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
What is this ghosting thing? Wait, it's called something else too?
What else do you call it?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I just called it.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
There's cab fish when they're not. I don't know. That's
school us. Come on, school us, honey. I just learned
what riz was.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Oh, I actually just learned what it actually was. To guys,
I might be in the same way. What. No, I'm
totally against ghosting. I feel like that's so disrespectful to
the person. You waste their time. At least you could
give them five minutes to explain why you don't want
to be with them. That's also why dms are so
easy to go because you can just not respond. You
can also then you can just elite. So, uh, it's
(29:26):
so easy for people to kind of move on nowadays.
I mean, at least my life break so there was
no ghosting there. Everyone saw me get broken up.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well yeah, so wait, that's another thing you know in
your gener I don't even.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Know what it's called. Uh, plural dating, Like we are
dating more than one guy at a time. Say it again,
look at me. No, no, no, that's been married to
more than one at a time when we do not
subscribe to that. No, no, Rachel, we'll have a class
on that later. No, it's like plural dating where you
date you both of you are dating multiple people in
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multiple relationships at a time.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Oh, I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I'm greedy you, I'm selfish to me, I'm not sharing.
I'll share my fries. I can't tell you.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Share my man.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
The other day, I saw those groceries in a throatle
I said, how did you get to and I.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, I can't get one right, because you know what
the best is being saved for you? Rachel, if you're out.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
There, give it time. Let's talk for one second. When
you're reading all these books and talking about people. In America,
people date multiple people. It's called dating. I've always had
a relationship. Yes, I didn't know how to date too.
(30:50):
I mean, obviously you don't get intimate. I would imagine,
because that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
That's what I'm talking about. You're having multiple.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No double dipping on my watch, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Well, I guess, I guess that's the final answer there.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I mean that that's normal.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Now I just told you I can't find me. She
said what I just said? Why is that normal?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Why? To me? But I know a lot of people
who participate in that hookup culture.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Data it's just phraseex, what's wrong?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
At least cycle the numbers and go back to your ex.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Like just.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
No, you're not going back to your ex, Rachel. We're
not having any word cheating. It's over.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Even talk to my exes. They're in the graveyard. So
it's fine.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Oh god, So that's the next question. Friends with your
ex are cutting it off cold turkey?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I've cut it off cold turkey completely with all except.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That what Wow, I'm friends with only.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Because his best friend is my cousin's Beyonce, and he's
back in Haway, so he's very close with my family,
and I peak of this family, So we would just.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Never Yeah, I know you're going to find this hard
to believe, Rachel. Susan is friends with every every act
she's ever had.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
It just makes the most sense, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
You know, I think it sounds exhausting.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
They all hit me up and said congratulations on the
show we watched you.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
We're so happy for you. I love that.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I love that they think about you still and are
messaging you though. That's how iconic you are.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But I'll reach out every birthday, every holiday.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I mean, I you know, I can't. You know the
date books. Susan's got a binder with tads, thousands of them.
Oh it's John's birthday, Oh it's Sam's birthday. She can't,
she can't deliver. Why it's too busy wishing the exits happy.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
But that calendar in your phone that comes up once
a year and reminds you, listen, we weds been so great.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It has been so great having you. You're filled with
wisdom for your young years, and you are a delight
and good things are coming your way.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
And we wish you all the very very best, and
we're Kathy and I both will always.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Be here for you.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
And that does it for today's episode of Bachelor Happy
Hours Golden Hour. Thanks to our most favorite guests so far,
rightchel we love you.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We love you, we adore you. I'm your newest best friend.
Thank you all for joining us, and please be sure
to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes
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Speaker 1 (33:44):
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Speaker 2 (33:55):
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It's been great. See y'all next week, See you next week,
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank you
again for joining us. We are excited to be back,
right Kathy.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We are and Susan. I gotta say, if all of
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Please do it so we can talk to you and
find out what's going on in your world. But today
we're so excited, especially excited. We have a very very
very special guest and you know her and love her
from Joey season of The Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hi Rachel, Hi guys, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
What's going on in your world right now?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You know, just busy busy, was work and kind of
navigating after everything, but it's been fun and creating at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Do you love it? You had to love your experience?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's obviously it all came out of nowhere and trying
to navigate my career on top of everything that happening
post show. But I mean it's I'm enjoying every moment
of it.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Honestly, you know, it was so special for me, Rachel,
to be able to sit with you and really really
get to know you. I think the world had something
to say about it as well, and they were all beautiful,
beautiful things.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I love you like one of my own. I really do.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
My mom when she watched it, she goes you and Auntie, Susan,
you guys connected, Hanna said, we.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Did in a big way, a big way.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Like she's family, and my Mom's like, oh, she just
seems like she has the best energy. You know what
she does, She's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I would love to meet your family.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I owe you one.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And then our reunions of like women tell all after
the final verse, and they're always in these big places
with lots of people. I want you one on one,
I really do. We gotta go for coffee or our
meal or a cuptail and Kathy will join natural.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm gonna have to join in on somebody. This can
I come to.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You're always invited, So I want.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
To know you just alluded at the top of the
show here about life after the show. It's a check
in for you. How are you doing post show? What's
going on? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean, things have definitely gotten better for me since
I was getting that hate that I spoke about at
the reunion, things have definitely calmed down. The support and
love has been just I didn't expect all the support
to finally, I guess drawna all the hate. So it's
been very nice.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Which is a perfect statement.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We get so much love, but one negative or ten
negatives seem to weigh on us so much more than
all the love. Yeah, you gotta focus only on the love.
And you know what, we get it too.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, I say, Rachel, you you intimated that it was
some Rachel racial slurs coming your way. I mean, I said,
zip it, and you know I have paid, dear, I know,
really right, zip it for that. But honestly, since I've
talked a lot about this, what does it feel like
(03:15):
for us? It's just you try to ignore it, but
it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I mean, it's definitely easier to ignore the the comments
like oh you're boring, or like Joey doesn't like you.
Those are obviously way easier, but when it comes.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
They said Joey doesn't like you?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Are they Joey?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I mean, how how do you people say these things?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But Also, that's why it's funny, because that's just them
speculating off of an episode or off of me being
shown for five minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So those were obviously easy to ignore. But when it
comes to things talking about just my culture, my family,
or my skin color, things like that, it can be
hard to ignore. But my dad's always told me to
never use discrimination as a crutch, and I've never wanted
that to be a reason to get sympathy from other people.
But it just made me stronger as a person and
(04:08):
just kind of realize that that's someone's flaw, that's someone's.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Definitely the high road for sure, for sure. So you know,
you you talk about we all know that, you know,
you and Joey definitely had a connection and he's now
classified as one of your exes. But yeah, do tell us,
we want to know what do all of your exes
have in common life? What's the what is the trait
(04:35):
that sort of come on? Good question?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Great, I know, because I mean Joey's kind of like
the favorite X right now, right like, there was there
was no you know, there's no no wrong doing on
either side. It was just the end of our journey
and that's the beautiful part about it. But my ex
is separate from Joey or.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Do they have anything in common anybody that you dated?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Sorry, they cheated kind.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Of like what Oh and he was doing it right
in front of your face, but.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That was allowed. That's okay. That's not a cheating suasan.
That's called dating on a TV show. Oh wow, so
they all cheated. How did you find out?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So two of I'm trying to so I would say
I had three serious relationships. They're great, I mean, separate
from my stating, they're amazing people. I never want to
talk bad about an ex. I think cheating is obviously
a personal choice, so you know, that's on them for
what they did. But I remember the one ex I had,
who I swear I was going to marry, like love
(05:40):
my life, first love. He was sleeping over my house,
which is a huge thing for my family, and my
parents were like, he can sleep over, just don't stay
in the same bed, never b downstairs in the living room.
But it was we kept PG, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Your parents asked you have to. Oh, no, I respect that,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yes, exactly. But I got a brand new phone and
I asked him and I was like, oh, can I
text my new phone. I don't think it's working. And
I've never looked in someone's phone before. It has never
been a part of me. And something in the back
of my head maybe it was my woman intuition. Yes,
by telling me is like, just just look at a
text message. So when I opened up his messages, there
(06:22):
was like two unsafe numbers and the text were like, oh,
he looks so good. When can I see you next?
Or something like that out and so I just I
had ignored it. And then something else told me just
look at his instagram. I was like, okay, I've never
done that. Went on his Instagram and I went in
his messages and it was a girl that I knew.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of who they were seeing each other, having some good
times but.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Doing the deeds. Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Wow, he's amazing. His family is amazing. I'm so very
close to his family. It's a you know, we were.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Still okay pause pause pause, you're still giving him kudos
forfing around on you. I'm not telling you the truth.
I'm sorry, that's not okay.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Wait a minute, excuse me. You're the one that's always
saying I want to I want to crucify them. And
you're always like, Okay, let it go. Yeah, that's why
I'm saying, don't forgive him. Euro was saying, forgive Rachel.
You're doing the right thing. Forgiven, so I'll make you happier.
It's about you.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I've forgive him for what he did. At the end
of the day, it was meant to be. It wouldn't
have happened. I learned a lot about valuing myself and
my family through that time and kind of knowing what
I deserve. It was a tough time for me, but
we're both civil. I respect him, he respects me, to
respect our families. But yeah, I got just one of
the heart. There's two other ones with countraumatics. I just
(07:39):
feel like it's.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Just it's how old were you? How old were you
with that? You said it was your first love? How
old were you?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
So we started dating senior year of high school, and
then we were together through college, and then we were
on and off for I think two or three years
after that. So from like seventeen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Can I just say you sound exactly like my daughter dated?
Sorry call me. Oh she's married now with almost one
year old daughter married me. She is married. The best
man in the world if he had a brother, I'd said,
But that same thing happened to her, and I asked her,
so I have to ask you, do you feel like
(08:19):
that you wasted I don't like the word waste, because
I don't think any experience is a waste of time.
But do you feel like you missed out on some
of the college experiences because you dated him during college?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Oh? Absolutely not. I think I'm so grateful to the
racial relationship I had with him because it was just
a pure if we're separating the cheating, it was so
pure in the sense of, like, you know, when we
first started dating, we didn't have jobs, but he would
always provide, like take me on dates and pay for
my meals and open.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
My door a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
He was a gentleman, and so I can learn.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Cheating gentleman a gentleman. Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But one of the things that Rachel and I talked
about in Mexico was you being able to trust again.
Obviously it caused some trust issues with you, and for
you to be able to open up to Joey and
give him your whole self.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah. And I also I did speak with Susan
about this I've been in a relationship that was abusive
as well. So my track record, I mean it went
from my first life in high school he cheated on me,
I was like, Okay, it happens, and I went to
an abusive relationship, and so I really struggled with I
thought I trusted the right people, and then they would
always kind of spikee me in the butt at the end.
(09:37):
But and then when I went on the show and
I met Joey, and even though he wasn't my person,
the friendship that we had really taught me that I
can open up somebody and trust and everybody and trust
somebody and they can treat me well. So I'm still
working on that. I think I think I finally reached
a point where I know what I deserve.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
As isn't that a beautiful thing that you got to
walk away with right?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So you're very close with your family, as you said,
And you know, I know most girls I did look
up to my dad, and I know you do to yours.
What what qualities in your dad? Like, what what would
you like to find in a guy that your dad possesses?
You know, what qualities?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, I mean, besides the fact that he treats my
mom like an absolute queen.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's enough right there for me. Treat me like a queen. Yeah,
he does he have a brother. I'm always asking the
same question.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
My dad comes from a family. There's thirteen fourteen, thirteen
kids fourteen. Yeah, he's nine sisters.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And always smoked.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Wow, I Know'm sorry. He's from a huge family. I
come from a huge family. So I guess his the
respect she has for his sisters just really shows, you know,
with how he treats my mom. And he's a girl dad.
He has three daughters, me and my other two sisters.
So the example he set for me of just how
patient he is with my mom and how he listens
(11:08):
to her and just the I guess in a traditional sense,
he's just such a provider and a protector of her,
and he also doesn't take away from her light as
an independent and strong woman.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know, what's so beautiful that she is recognizing all this.
Nobody told her that, Nobody told her that she's watched
that grown up. And there's so many people out there
that come from broken families or abusive families and they
don't get to have what you just said.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
That's beautiful and.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
My appreciation from it comes as well, comes from the
fact that both my parents were divorced before they met,
so I do have a couple half siblings who obviously
consider my whole siblings. And so that dynamic of seeing
how they had to navigate through having a child before
they met and how we had kind of had a
(11:56):
blended family also showed me how strong my dad is
and how from my mom is too because they kept
us as close as Yeah, it just showed love all
the time. Obviously our family isn't perfect. Uh, we're kind
of crazy and we're loud, but.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The Italians come on, that's that's the definition of family.
But you know, I I someone told me this once.
Watch how a son treats his mother. And that's the guy.
He's going to treat you the way he treats his mother.
So you know, there's you can put that one in
your little book of We.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Can't change that red flag, right, So I keeping you
can never make a red flag of white flag ever.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So Rachel, tell me about your work.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Oh so we all know I'm a nurse. Yes, new information.
I actually had work yesterday. I'm actually so exhausted. But
I mean I absolutely love it. It's it's definitely a
passion of mine. I didn't think I would become a nurse.
My dad worked in trauma back in Hawaii at one
of the major hospitals there, so I kind of grew
up just hearing his stories and he would show me
(13:15):
pictures and I was like, wow, that's so cool. But
I hated school math and science.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Science. Nursing school is hard.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I know it's hard.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
How my niece is going through it.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh yeah, you just told me.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That, but real quick, I have to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You just pronounced to what how you I'm reading this
book that not a client, a woman that I renewed
her vows, and it's called aloha, and I knew aloha
was hello and go by. It has several other meanings,
so I never knew that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, there's love, love and also like because hog the words,
that's the breath of life, right, and so that's also
why we call like foreigners people who come to Way,
we call them howy.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
But it's like yes, which means yes, yes, yes in
the book, I know I love this, Okay, I want
to ask, so I want to that is that's really interesting?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
But since you know we're talking about dating, and God knows,
I need as much help as I can get. I
want to know, Rachel, would you ever date someone in
the workplace, a doctor?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
That was my question, since you're in the hospital, nurses
and doctors do a lot of you.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, are you.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Comfortable with that or is it because it's so big
that people wouldn't know?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Or how do you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I what is that saying?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Don't don't don't don't ship?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So I'm thankfully because I'm a travelers. I'm usually at
one hospital for three months and I move on, so
it's not the worst thing in the world. But I
also love that when I go to work, it's my place,
it's my space. I'm doing what I enjoy. I don't
have to think about my partner being there. But I
would date someone who's in the same I guess career.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Field, line of work.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Right, Okay, that's something to talk about, I guess.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But how about any fears going back into the dating world,
And what is something about love that scares you?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I'm honestly not terrified about love. I love being in love.
I think everyone loves to be in love. Everyone wants
to know that someone loves them. I think it's such
a beautiful part of life, and that's and that's how
the world goes around in a sense. But I mean,
I'm not scared of love, but I am nervous, and
pardon me, is nervous to get back into dating because
(15:48):
I don't know that people would think me being on
a dating.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Show that have a whole new impression of it right.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
In a different way. Maybe if they watch the show,
they'll realize that I just am complete the same on
TV and off TV. But I'm really open to anything.
I just hope people know that my standards may make
me look picky, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Just not never settle, Rachel, never settle.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
That's so important that she just said that, because my
standards have to being on the show. Now, I'm being
really true to myself before, like you always teach me
about the red flag and I make it yellow and
slide through and realize how many months later I'm not happy,
But now I know very good.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And then there's me who never settles, And then I
wonder why I can't get a date, you know, because
I'm looking for perfection all the time. But I want
to ask you, Rachel, so obviously Susan and I were
on the Golden Bachelor, and we were the first ones
to do that show, so we don't have the years
of experience that the younger Bachelor and Bacheorettes have. So
(16:50):
I want to know. I know you have a lot
of good friends from from the show, Joey, you know
from the other shows, but what couple is your idea
of a really good relationship, the relationship goals that you'd
like to meet.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I absolutely love Serena and Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yes, I mean who does.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
They're a durable Also, I'm so new to this whole Vacherination.
I'm slowly starting to learn about everybody. So my best
friends were kind of educating me on Vacherination. But when
I finally met Surena and Joe, they are just so
me and pure. And I think some people are skeptical
of this process and of this whole idea of being
(17:30):
on a reality show to date, but when you look
at Suena and Joe, I mean, it's just so apparent
that it can where it works and person and the
maturity love that you're at when you go into this.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So yeah, Rachel, you shared with me that you weren't
allowed for your hometown to go to your actual hometown.
Tell me what a hometown date in Hawaii would have
been like.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
That would have been nuts.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I like it now, not just any date we were
want to hear the perfect dream date, Rachel.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Perfect dream date in Hawaii. Okay, So my favorite place
on my island is the North Shore. So I would
have loved to go to my favorite beach, which is Sunset.
I used to skip school and go there all the time,
and I would go to this there's this sandwich top
that's just nostalgic for me. And it's also in the
North Shore. So I would have spent the whole day there.
And it's very grounding when you go to a place
(18:24):
that you were actually raised, because that's just a huge
part of who you are. Yeah, it's your roots. And
Hawaii beings so beautiful and so rich, kind of like
a melting pot, I guess of the Pacific. I just
wanted to immerse him in that. But I also wanted
him to come to my house that I was raising
because I was homeschooled all the way to high school.
(18:45):
So my classroom, like my little classroom is there.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all still there.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I was homeschooled, was there and like all those things,
So there's obviously more I would have loved to do.
But I think just showing him more of who I
am would have been great. In Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Wow, Wow, that's really nice. I didn't. I did not
know that you were homeschool No one does.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean I thought I did I.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Know.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Susan, second, I did love her.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah. I would tell people like, oh, I was homeschool
They're like, but you're so social, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So I was in education for thirty six years, So
it's very That's why I'm asking it's very interesting either.
Did you like being homeschooled?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I mean, I think my experience of of homeschool it
was different than I think in the main line like
how they do it because sometimes in class would go
to the beach and we would kind of just walk across.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
From Really that's school. That's really hello experience. If my
dive is it a blue Sea school can be experiential. Susan, Yeah,
would you homeschool your kids?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I would be open to it, But I'm also very
much a career type of woman. So I mean, if
I had time to somehow do both with my future
partner then maybe, But I also loved my mom threw
me into public school at the best time, and I
met such amazing people and like my best friend I
met in public school. So I also think there's great
(20:12):
experiences to be had when you go into a school
with more students.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
When you were being home school, did you feel like
you were not having enough friends or missing out on
something or you didn't realize it then.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I didn't realize it then because a my cousins went
to public school and in a way we would go
to high school events with them, like their games. So
and our family is so huge. I always thought I
was around hundreds of people all the time. That's also
why my social skills are great. And my mom would
when we were younger, if we went out to restaurants
or the grocery store, she'd have us go talk to
the waitress by myself. She's like, go speak, you're fine.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So, no, did you have to order the cold cuts
by yourself?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I have to order my mom have me called from
my own dentist appointment when I was like eight years old.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Wow, she really taught. But Rachel, look at you. Your
strong and you're independent, and you know what you want,
so you know what your mother did the right thing.
In my opinion, I think it's great my parents did.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I mean, my parents did it right. They used to
have me fill out checks when I was really young too,
and like a tax paper, so they really taught. Wow,
it's sound like the foundation that we needed. So when
I did public school, I thought public school was a
breathe because I was like my parents pretty.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Much, because you knew your thank kudos to your mom
and dad. So your family clearly, clearly is important to you.
And we saw on Joey's season how important the cultural
your family's culture is to you.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I'm curious, regardless of who you marry, what what of
those traditions would you want to bring into your marriage
because I know when I got married, I was very young,
but my husband and I each had family traditions from
our own separate films that we try to incorporate. What
ones would you want to bring with you?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean, definitely the traditional greeting that everyone crazy about.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Right, Joey nailed that he did all he did.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Amazing, but it's it's also things that you don't see
on camera. You know, things that my mom taught me
you know, when when you're sleeping next to someone who's
older than you, make sure your head is below them.
It's just a kind of respect that you're that you're
younger than them.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Well, what when you're sleeping you have to be lower.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yes, when I've seen next to my sister, my mom
would go, oh oh, honey, no go lower because you're
your show respect to your sisters.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't cand I just explain how this is going
to work for you. And you're taller than when I
sleeping together. When we find out when we find a guy,
he's always taller, our heads are going to be through
the head door. It's not about honey, here's a good one, Rachel.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Do you have any questions for Kathy and I about
love or relationships?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
So many? Because I know you guys have had You know,
you have all this experience ahead of me, and you
know you guys being I quote older, you know, it
just makes you ten times.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You don't have put quotes around, quotes around it.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Because I wouldn't consider you guys older. I think age
is just all about wisdom, and I think there's something
so wonderful about you know it. I just have such
a respect for you guys, knowing that you've been through
things that I can't even imagine. I can't even fathom.
So I guess I would ask you how would you
both define love or true love?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
One of the things going back for a second, because
you hit a good point. My mother's girlfriends would try
to give me advice and stuff when I was younger,
Like you know, twenty.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You don't listen to that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Even though we do have wisdom and experience, whatever we
say is not going to be and you could hear it,
but you have to live it.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But you know what, Yes, I would agree with that,
But Rachel, I think when you say you have so
many questions, I think some people are more open than
others to just hearing what we have to say, and
then when they're with another person in a relationship, something
might spark something, you know, Kathy and Susan said, I
(23:57):
think that's what it's about. Just don't know, but I
want to hear your ane.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I'm a hopeless romantic, much like yourself. I'm in love
with being in love. I wear my heart on my sleeve.
That will never change because that's being true to myself.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's who I am. I don't know. For me, love
to me it sounds like something out of a poetry book.
But for me, love is that feeling that I don't
want to spend another day by myself. I want that
person to experience things with me. I want to share things,
(24:32):
you know, the best friend, finding your best friend, someone
that you know. I'm in the last chapter of my life.
It's going to last about fifty years, but my best
best chapter. But I want it to be the best
chapter with someone. And I think that love looks a
little different as you get older, but I believe in love.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Since we're generations apart here and you've got all this
experience ahead of you, and I am a phone call
away from holding your hand through anything that you're about
to walk through.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I just want you to.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Note that I'll be calling you. Don't you worry it.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I know you will.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Let's do the generation gap game, Rachel, I'm giving you
my number two.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'm left. I'm sorry, Kathy, I call you a problem.
She pulls.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's a triangle, all right, listen, what about a little
game with Rachel.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Okay, generation gap this or that? You ready? Rachel, generation
gap this or that? We're just going to throw some
questions and you're going to pick this one or that one.
So here's the first one. Sliding into the DMS or
send it an email? I think either or it's about
(25:52):
the same thing, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yes, I mean I'm considering my Gmail my social media too.
I'm always on it. I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
In d MS that just feels more immediate to me.
The d M.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, my email before my I mean, if you.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
If you email me, you know it maybe three days
it's buried in that DM. It's like blinking at you.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Instagram or TikTok. Yeah, oh they're one and the same
to now.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
My Instagram, I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah. How about all right, here's catching up with a
friend texting or calling? This is my own personal will
I prefer Oh so do I put so many younger
people it's all about texting. You can't read emotion in text.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, I think this younger generation, I mean, I'm probably
in this younger generation whatever, but I think, uh there,
it's just so easy, so they can like not have
what is what is the think of the word urgency.
They're so numb to an actual connection with people, and
it's so they're so quick to text. They can go
about their day. I'd rather sit see you, feel you.
Let's discuss what's going.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
On, which which brings to mind the people behind their
computers making the negative comments. They're not showing their face,
They're hiding behind something. So me, a text is when
I don't have time to talk. I can't talk, but
da da D D or I love you or talk
to you later.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But a phone call is real. I just find people
have their heads in their phone, you know, on the
screen so much. I'm just surprised to hear you say.
I love hearing you say a phone call.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I prefer a FaceTime too, because I'd rather just see
your face.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, that's always fun. Oh, Kathy gets me at the
worst time. To Susan, are you serious? You're naked, you're
getting out the shower. Why do you answer the phone?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Anty season? Were you eating something?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Probably? Yes, I'm always eating, Susan, eating right every two hours.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's okay, here, I got I have.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
This is the thing with Susan me that we constantly
talk about dating someone older than you or dating someone
younger than you.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Older. Either I would say older.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, because you're young. I would say younger because I'm
running out of options. Go either way.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I mean, I think it really depends on the person.
My dad's younger than my mom and.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
How much how much young honestly, not that much.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I think it's like two years. But he also through
his life experiences. My dad's just really mature. But I
also see guys who are younger than me and they're
they're just not there. It's just not well.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I think women mature quicker than men. So in your
twenties and younger, that's the case. Yeah, I totally get that.
How about ghosting today, that's one of my part. Would
you rather break up in person, have respect and have
a conversation.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Or ghost them?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
What is this ghosting thing? Wait, it's called something else too?
What else do you call it?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I just called it.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
There's cab fish when they're not. I don't know. That's
school us. Come on, school us, honey. I just learned
what riz was.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Oh, I actually just learned what it actually was. To guys,
I might be in the same way. What. No, I'm
totally against ghosting. I feel like that's so disrespectful to
the person. You waste their time. At least you could
give them five minutes to explain why you don't want
to be with them. That's also why dms are so
easy to go because you can just not respond. You
can also then you can just elite. So, uh, it's
(29:26):
so easy for people to kind of move on nowadays.
I mean, at least my life break so there was
no ghosting there. Everyone saw me get broken up.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well yeah, so wait, that's another thing you know in
your gener I don't even.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Know what it's called. Uh, plural dating, Like we are
dating more than one guy at a time. Say it again,
look at me. No, no, no, that's been married to
more than one at a time when we do not
subscribe to that. No, no, Rachel, we'll have a class
on that later. No, it's like plural dating where you
date you both of you are dating multiple people in
(30:01):
multiple relationships at a time.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Oh, I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I'm greedy you, I'm selfish to me, I'm not sharing.
I'll share my fries. I can't tell you.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Share my man.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
The other day, I saw those groceries in a throatle
I said, how did you get to and I.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, I can't get one right, because you know what
the best is being saved for you? Rachel, if you're out.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
There, give it time. Let's talk for one second. When
you're reading all these books and talking about people. In America,
people date multiple people. It's called dating. I've always had
a relationship. Yes, I didn't know how to date too.
(30:50):
I mean, obviously you don't get intimate. I would imagine,
because that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
That's what I'm talking about. You're having multiple.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No double dipping on my watch, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Well, I guess, I guess that's the final answer there.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I mean that that's normal.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Now I just told you I can't find me. She
said what I just said? Why is that normal?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Why? To me? But I know a lot of people
who participate in that hookup culture.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Data it's just phraseex, what's wrong?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
At least cycle the numbers and go back to your ex.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Like just.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
No, you're not going back to your ex, Rachel. We're
not having any word cheating. It's over.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Even talk to my exes. They're in the graveyard. So
it's fine.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Oh god, So that's the next question. Friends with your
ex are cutting it off cold turkey?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I've cut it off cold turkey completely with all except.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That what Wow, I'm friends with only.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Because his best friend is my cousin's Beyonce, and he's
back in Haway, so he's very close with my family,
and I peak of this family, So we would just.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Never Yeah, I know you're going to find this hard
to believe, Rachel. Susan is friends with every every act
she's ever had.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
It just makes the most sense, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
You know, I think it sounds exhausting.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
They all hit me up and said congratulations on the
show we watched you.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
We're so happy for you. I love that.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I love that they think about you still and are
messaging you though. That's how iconic you are.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But I'll reach out every birthday, every holiday.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I mean, I you know, I can't. You know the
date books. Susan's got a binder with tads, thousands of them.
Oh it's John's birthday, Oh it's Sam's birthday. She can't,
she can't deliver. Why it's too busy wishing the exits happy.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
But that calendar in your phone that comes up once
a year and reminds you, listen, we weds been so great.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It has been so great having you. You're filled with
wisdom for your young years, and you are a delight
and good things are coming your way.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
And we wish you all the very very best, and
we're Kathy and I both will always.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Be here for you.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
And that does it for today's episode of Bachelor Happy
Hours Golden Hour. Thanks to our most favorite guests so far,
rightchel we love you.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We love you, we adore you. I'm your newest best friend.
Thank you all for joining us, and please be sure
to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes
coming out every week, and truly, if you enjoy today,
you have no idea what's in store for you, so
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Speaker 1 (33:44):
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Speaker 2 (33:55):
And please listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on
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