June 24, 2025 • 30 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with the one and only Jesse Palmer to discuss all things “Paradise” with the iconic host giving us the inside scoop on the brand-new iteration of the fan favorite series. We kick things off with a food recap from Joe and Serena’s trip to Canada, if you’re looking for recs, Jesse has ’em all! Then, we get into his experience in “Paradise” and taking in all the newness of Costa Rica. Are we in for THE most entertaining season yet? We think so! Jesse dishes on the luxurious location, the instant connections among the cast, and so much more. If you’re looking for a peek into this year’s love on the beach, tune in now to hear all this and so much more! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bacher Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We are here with the one and only Jesse Palmer. Jesse,
Welcome to Bacher Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Thanks guys, it's great. Standa. How are we doing? We're good?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm great. I'm I'm formerly sun burnt. It's now turned
into a lot of alvira and it's turning into appealing
ten nice.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Who needs to pay for a chemical appeal when you
can just go to Costa Rica for three weeks and
burn yourself off?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It's true. Yes, it's just exfoliate. Everything is off. It's
a fresh it's like a I feel like a snake.
I've just like peeled off my last my last seed
of skin to due to excessive son in paradise. But
it's great. It's good to be good to be home.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, I'm trying to think when the last time we
had you on this podcast. It was for whose season?
It might it might have been like Clayton season.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I think no time.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, that was my first. That was my first, your
first season, Yeah, I know it's been that long. It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
We must have had you on since then. Maybe Grants
or maybe Zach season.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Maybe I feel like on social I'm always like texting
and like messaging with you guys about food or wherever
you guys are traveling. I'm always like keeping up with
you guys that way.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, we were just in your hometown, right, Montreal.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Back in Montreal. I know, I know. It sounded like
that was quite the adventure.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It was, to say the least, but it was exciting.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I haven't been to Montreal since I was oh gosh,
I mean other than like I was there one night
for work really quick, but I the last monment for
like a week, and I was like eighteen, I think.
So it was more fun this time. Not more fun,
but different going like with money.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
A lot of you know, it's funny too because a
lot of people love to go to Montreal when they're
eighteen because for forever, growing up, the legal age for
drinking was eighteen and Quebec, so that's when everybody would go.
I'm glad you finally went back, and it sounds like
you guys ate something pretty amazing. You guys went to
Joe Beef.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
We went to Joe Beef. What do you think about
that restaurant?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It was? It was I thought it was great, so strong. Yeah,
if anybody out there is ever thinking about going to Montreal,
that's a place you absolutely have to go. And the
lobster pasta is what they're absolutely most known for it.
You guys, did you try that? Joe?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
We got Yeah, I know, I didn't know that. I
didn't know that's what they were knowing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I texted you after saw after we left.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeah, we were like, oh shoot, but we saw the
girls at the table next to us get it and
I was like, oh, shoot, that looks really good.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Really really good. How did you feel about? They have
a giant blackboard there with all of like the menu
written on it. It's in French, though, how did you
get Did that? Did that dissuade you? Did scare you?
We were not in that room. No, there's so there's
I don't know if you've been there. I think they
opened up a new room and we were in the
new one.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's like yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, maybe Liverpool too. It's
like the restaurant right next door, but they also have
the same menu. That place is. I'm so happy you
at least got to got to go there and do that.
I'm actually going back in two weeks. I'm taking Emily
and Ellis, so I'm already had like I'm trying to
put my whole restaurant list together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
No, it was great.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
We ate really well, and I was saying to Joe,
I feel like Canadian cuisine a is just underrated in general.
I feel like you gets so limited to like just poutine.
But I feel like we do do like Canadian cuisine
really well, and I feel like it ties really well
with like farm to table cuisine.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Like trying to describe it.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I was like, I feel like Canada does really well
with like great veggie dishes.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, there's a lot of fun care in the restaurant itself,
Like all the restaurants are very unique, and they all
are really pretty inside, and everything's like meticulous, thoughtful.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah it's a good point. Yeah, it's really They are
great experiences, especially again the summertime. I just feel like,
for whatever reason, I know restaurants all over the world
do this, but I feel like in Canada everybody's like
a forager, you know what I mean, everybody everybody who's
like in their back because everyone lives in the forest,
or at least there's like a forest nearby, you can
kind of go and get herbs and get like berries
(04:12):
or get things and they can like incorporate that into
the Canadian a menu that you guys are eating. That's
really cool. Yeah, you're both lucky though, because obviously Toronto stream,
I know, is like that's that's just such a great
food city itself. And so you know, getting a chance
to kind of do that in Montreal and Vancouver obviously
is great, but all across Canada's is good too. So
(04:32):
I'm glad. I'm glad you guys at least got to
enjoy a little bit while you were there.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, this is this is a better a happy hour
brought to you by Food Network. So okay, before we pivot,
I will say this is kind of a hot take
when it comes to lobster pastas.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I'm not a fan of.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Like a half like a hard shell piece of lobster
in the dish.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I don't well, I think your issue is not the
lobster pasta. You don't like having to like crack a
lobster period, do you know what I mean? Like if
it was like not with my I.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Don't mind cracking the lobster. I just don't want to
do my pasta.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Oh I'm kind of with Joe in that one. Like
I don't want to shell in my dick, like it's
taking up past my bowl. Yeah, pasta, just like remove
the meat and then put it in the pasta. Cut
it up. Here's a question for you. Do you care
if it's a claw, if it's quaw mete or do
you want the tail?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I wouldn't care about that that. I wouldn't care, but
I'm also not. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't really know the difference.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
If I'm gonna be completely honest, I just I just
kind of said I don't care because I didn't want
to sound like an idiot.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
But I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
We just don't want extra stuff. I'm with you too.
Just take the show. It looks cool, I guess if
But anyway, like do you really want this thing? Sometimes
it's the head of the lobster just like staring at you.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, we can get rid of the eyes.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Let's break down paradise just like in like, so you've
been there, now you've hosted it the same place we've
been Cellulita, and now we've completely changed venues. Kind of
just like, your initial thoughts getting there? How's it different everything?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
What was your thoughts before you went?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
When they told you, like, hey, you did two seasons, Salulita,
the format has been kind of the same this whole time,
and now we're switching it up with all these new editions.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
How did you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I was super stoked because I was excited about the
new of it, all the newness, and a little some
of that is scary, obviously, because when things are going
to be new and unfamiliar, you're sort of not really
sure how it's going to work out. So I probably
didn't feel quite as comfortable going into this one just
because of how new everything was. Costa Rica is amazing.
(06:48):
I'd only been there once before that was on Gary
season of The Golden Bachelor, but we were in a
completely different region for that, we were more inland by
a volcano. Paradise is literally on the beach right up
against the jungle, so it sort of has two different
vibes and feels to it. Costa Rica Paradise is way
(07:10):
harder to get to than cellulated Paradise than ogb Ip. Yeah,
it's a six it's a six hour flight from La
You got to drive two hours and then and then
sort of you're there. So it takes like a full
day to sort of finally get get settled and get
set in. But dude, Costa Rica was awesome. And you know,
(07:32):
if you love animals, it's incredible because there are so
many different species of wildlife that you encounter every single
day at work. So obviously, but it was like Iguana Land.
There are massive iguanas the roof next to where I
was staying. Every morning I would walk by to go
(07:54):
get breakfast and it was like the Parliament of iguanas.
There was like fourteen of them on the roof, Giant
ones just kind of looking around. We had like howler
monkeys climbing up trees like where I was staying. Yeah,
it was like it was cool. It was so cool.
And there was like there was like I call them
joker crabs because there were these little crabs that were
(08:16):
like purple and green and orange running around, which was amazing.
Massive frogs massive, not like I mean like like the
size of my face. Yeah, And because the crazy part
is is, you know, we were filming in rainy seasons,
so every day we'd get these crazy tropical torrential downpours
(08:37):
and the frogs just like come out of nowhere and
you're just walking around flashing and there's these massive frogs.
I was in the control room during one shoot, and
I'm not joking. I was just sitting there, you know,
with the producers, and we're kind of watching all the
reality and everything that's going on, and somebody threw a meatball.
Like we were just eating and someone threw like a
meatball at me. It was like a joke, and it
(08:59):
like hit me in the last up and I'm like, dude,
that's crazy. Someone in here in the darkness threw food
at me and I looked down and it wasn't a meatball.
It was a frog. And the frog the frog jumped
like it jumped from like the ceiling and landed in
my lap and then was like sitting in between my
my feet. It was like in the control room, it
was the same everywhere.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, so that's that's less crazy than just some random
producer launching a meatball totally.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
But actually crazy is that that's where your head went
immediately as someone starting a food fight in the control room.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And I don't know why my mind went to the
meatball and I were back on food again. Like it
could have been literally anything. It could have been like
this coffee thing. It could have been anyone. It was
like I felt like Joe's you know, Joe's known. I
just threw a meatball at it. Yeah it was a frog. Anyways,
the animals were great. Costa Rica's amazing that people were fantastic.
(09:51):
It was hot, as it was so hot, it was humid,
it was rainy season, but it was it was like
it was second because we had the beach and water.
You could actually swim in the old Bok you weren't
really allowed to go out there because there was rocks
and cliffs and everything. Yeah, this water, it's like you
could totally in the morning go in. It was super warm.
(10:13):
And then on the other side of it all you
had the jungle, so kind of like the mystery and
the danger and all the crazy stuff whatever it was
in there too. It was I loved it. Once we
got settled in, it was amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
That's really cool and I'm excited to see how the
nature element plays a new role because I feel like
just comparing like Salulita, other than the crabs, literally everywhere
there wasn't a ton of wildlife, Like we were very
much on the beach and then you couldn't really go
in the water. There was always like current issues and
stuff like that. So like having like that beach component
(10:44):
that's active and swimmable in the jungle and the wildlife, like,
I feel like that in itself is going to add
a different feel.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
How was filming during rainy season?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
That's what I was and acid You have to take
a lot of breaks.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
So sometimes five hour stopdowns. It was like severe. And
you remember like at the Old Paradise too, if there's
a lightning strike, everything has to stop and you have
to go in and and so that that was similar
here as well. You know it you were just saying this,
and you know the property was beautiful. I feel like
we had more spaces to film in. They were like
(11:23):
there were just different scenes kind of set up around
Paradise where casts could kind of be. It wasn't just
like the bar with wells or there's like a like
a beach chair down the beach and that's kind of
like it like there's one on one end, one on
the other end. I think there was a lot of
different places people could go, so a lot of different
a lot of different scenery around as well, and so
we just kind of made it work. You know, you
(11:44):
just think all you can do is just kind of
shoot around it and just sort of you're at the
you're at the mercy of mother nature. But you know,
I think everybody took it well. I think, you know,
I know, I know the cast loved it so much more.
I think people like Kat, who had been on a
pre Espachelor in Paradise, you know, going from a room
(12:04):
that you're sharing with like four other women to having
a room that you only have to share with one
other person and there's air conditioning and there's a swim
out pool and all the things. I mean, they're there.
I think they're setup was a lot better at this
time around.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
I'm excited to talk with her and like justin glaze
like people that have done now both settings and like
hear about their different experiences.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
For sure, they looked a lot more rested they did,
and like Kat was always telling me, She's like, I
can wear dresses to these cocktail parties. I can totally
get dressed up. I feel more comfortable things that you know,
you couldn't necessarily wear before because you might not show
for seven days.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, no, I forgot about that.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
There was actually a lot of stuff I packed that
I was like, I can't wear this because I'm gonna
sweat through it.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Do you think that matters?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Do you do you think because our conditions weren't as
luxurious it made.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
For contributed to the drama.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, better TV, I guess, or I wonder about that
a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I think there's like there's this sliding scale because on
one end, to your point, it's like you have to
get mentally tough very early on, but that can be
emotionally exhausting after a while, and then maybe that lends
itself to more drama or better TV. I also think
pastor morale is an important thing though, you know, and
(13:28):
we've all been you know, we've been there, We've done it.
I remember, you know, being the Bachelor, and just you know,
you want to feel you need to feel arrested, you
need to feel taken care of. You want to feel
like people are trying to put you in positions that
you know you're wearing what you want to wear. You
know you're getting enough downtime and rest, you're eating so
that you can just sort of be at your best
all the time, and so I think it's it's that
(13:50):
fine line right where you know, you people are obviously
going to put themselves into some difficult situations and you
have to let that play out too, But I think
you also have to take care of the humans, and
I feel like on Paradise this year, I think we
definitely did that.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's a great point.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Something we've never actually talked about on here is cast
morale because thinking back to my time on the show, like, sure,
the first seven days we were there, I probably got
like two hours of sleep at night, and I was
irritable and maybe a little bit more snippy. But then
I would like try to film chats with Abigail and
I'd be like, Abigail, are you awake? Like come on, like,
we have to get this done. You're killing me here.
(14:26):
But everyone was just so dead, and I feel like,
you know, you get stuff from that, but then you
also get a lot of good stuff from people that
are like I feel my best, I'm going to go
put myself out there, I'm going to talk to this guy.
I'm feeling sexy, I'm feeling energized. So there are like
the pros and cons, and.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
This is sort of like not trying to break the
fourth wall here too, but it's such a good point
you make, and you know, focusing on the cast and
how they're doing. It's also the crew too, though, it's
the people filming the shows. Like in the Old Paradise,
we all stayed an hour away from from Sally Alida
where we were filming, so we would do a roast
ceremony at like four o'clock and if there was lightning,
(15:03):
maybe that got pushed and you don't get done till
five o'clock. Now you're loading into a van and you're
driving back with like ten other sweaty people an hour
away to go to sleep, to wake up three hours
later to get back in the same van, drive down
an hour and film again. I think for the crew too,
I think everybody just was sort of just an in
(15:23):
better shape throughout filming this, and so it'll be interesting
to see. I mean, I think I think the morale
of everybody of everybody was really high. I know certainly
it was for the cast because having done two Paradise
seasons and Sally lead it like that was brutal for
a lot of people. It was. It was incredible television.
But man, I mean, that was that was what a
month of filming.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Out of all the first day casts that's on the show,
everyone knows who they are. Now, who were you most
surprised to see? Happy or shocked or any feelings towards
then cast?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, I was really excited to meet Dale. I had
never met met Dale before. Of course I'd seen him
on Claire's season, and obviously he's a huge story in
Bachelor or Bachelorette law if you will, for obvious reasons.
But he was really the only person there may have
been like just one or two people who I personally
didn't know from a season that I had hosted before.
(16:22):
The other was Kyle from Kate from Katie season. Everybody
else I was familiar with. I was really excited because,
you know, you know, I kind of, you know, before
the cast got announced, I kind of felt like, Okay,
we'll probably have one or two big names and that's
kind of where the story will drive like early on.
But I mean you can go through the list. I
think you know Alex from Grant season, obviously, Dale, we
(16:44):
talked about I think Jeremies and Jessice season, Jonathan from
Jesse season, justin coming back having been in Paradise before.
Kad obviously a big name too, Lexi from Joey's season,
Sam from Gen season, even Zoe from Grant season. I mean,
there was there was like a lot like I feel like,
like for to give you like an awful football analogy,
(17:04):
I feel like there were like several first and second
round picks, like you know what I mean coming into
this where it's like we're like low, there's like a
lot of a lot of big names and like I don't,
you know, I don't know who's who's gonna pair up early,
or what the story is going to be, or or
how the chemistry is going to be between everybody. It
was really really interesting where I feel like in years past,
(17:25):
at least the previous two seasons, like day one, when
I'm in the control room and I'm there with the
producers and I'm sort of watching all the cameras because
you're kind of following all these individual stories and couples,
you're kind of just focusing on one or two screens.
Here there was like multiple people where you just always
wanted to kind of try to keep tabs on everything happening.
So I was really excited on Day one, especially with
(17:49):
the arrivals and then just seeing how everything was going
to interact, because I felt like we had a lot
of big names show up early. It wasn't like it
wasn't necessarily staggered like we've done it in the past.
We found this through a bunch of you know, big
names in there right away and just kind of let
what happened happen.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, Joe and I were talking about this and we
totally agree, like a great starting cast. I feel like
taking that year off gave them kind of their pick
of the litter of who they wanted. They had so
many options of these like single Bachelor National alumni. On
top of that, it felt like a really small starting cast,
like there's only I think like six women that are
(18:26):
going down.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So they're definitely just being more selective.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I don't know what it's been the past few years,
but our season there was like thirteen women on day one,
like it was a big starting cast. So it feels
like they're being a little bit more like intentional with
their choices.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, I think so too, And I think that was
a big p Obviously, having taken a year off, I
think they really had a chance to kind of go
through the cast and talk to them, you know, really
find out you know, you know about them and what
you know, like you said, their intentions coming into this,
and really try to orchestrate and put that together. It
was it was concentrated, It's true, but I think like
(19:03):
they're there. The one thing I remember from day one
and day two I remember talking to Wells and Hannah
about this. People were just kind of like pairing up
and going off and walking and finding a place to
sit and talk. They really got into it faster than
at least the two seasons I hosted where it was
like everyone hanging around the bar. It's like a big
cluster of people that kind of floats around paradise and
(19:25):
then maybe two people break off, but everyone's afraid to
make the first move. Everyone's afraid, like you know, there's
also really nowhere to go, like you just always are
in that contained area. Maybe someone gets pulled for an im.
I felt like, you know, without having to tell them
to do anything, people just sort of started talking to
each other. They went, they got in the pool, they
(19:45):
went over by the beach, they went for a walk,
like they just so yeah, like the people I think
had had good intentions coming into this to like make
this work. And so they started they started paradising very quickly,
if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, And that makes sense too when you say they're
they're like the old Paradise. That first day, there really
isn't nowhere to go. So if you do, like if
you're courageous and you like step out and pull someone,
everyone on the beaches is watching and judging you, and
they're kind of like.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Oh, people don't get brave until nightfall yea, and they
feel like they're like in disguise a little bit and
it's like you can't see everything.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I like, it's you're so right. It's like there's that learning.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Curve day usually of like everyone trying to get their
sea legs. So I do love to hear that they
just like took off with a bang and went for it.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You know. As the host, you know, I kind of
walk out. I'm like, hey, everybody, welcome to Paradise. We're
here in Costa Rica. This is great, all right, you
know on this journey blah blah blah blah blah blah,
how fun guys. You know, Bars open Wells is waiting
for it, and it was just like and just people
just started scattering and finding each other. So that was
that felt really really good, and I don't feel like
we had to waste any time. We just got right
(21:05):
into it.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
I wonder if that was a result of maybe the
smaller cast. I feel like, you know, Joe and I
were like he.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Was second to the beach. I was forced.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
We were there very early in the day, and I
feel like sometimes the energy is like, well, I don't
want to pull someone because what if someone's like what
if someone else comes down?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That I like, and like people are coming down literally all.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
The smaller cast for smaller cast makes it more intimate.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I know, I'm only maybe into three let me chat
with them. I like this one best pull, like it
kind of streamlines all of it.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah. I think also it was intentional. I think in
the way we shot this one too. I think one
of the things I'm really excited for people to see
about this Paradise. I think it's going to look entirely different.
The show creative is a little bit different this year.
But also I think the cameras that were used and
(21:56):
sort of the the way it shot, I think is
going to look a lot different. I'm not a director,
so I can't speak to like specifics of all this stuff,
but I know we used different cameras and I think
with that, what it allowed us to do in some
ways was actually shoot intimate scenes but from further away.
So if you and Joe he pulls you and you
(22:17):
guys are off to on the on the beach somewhere,
there's like two cameras jammed in your face and you're
trying to have this serious talk about you know, what
do you hope to get out of paradise and maybe
you're going to lean in for your first kiss, and
it kind of like makes it awkward. I think we
could sort of shoot further away from people and still
you know, but the cameras were able to catch obviously
everything that was happening, but it didn't make them feel
(22:40):
like they were all jammed up. And I think that
also helped our cast kind of loosen up a little
bit more. I know, I think that was a cognizant
choice that was made going into this year, was we're
already going to have more space, we're going to have
less people, but let's really make them feel like they
have space and that we're not just we're not just
know we're constantly just all over them all the time.
(23:03):
They feel like they can't breathe. And so there's a
stylistic way that this season was shot. I think you're
going to see it right away from the very very
first arrival, it looks totally different.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well it's about time, I mean, Jesus Christ, think they
gotta spend some money. I mean this has been this
has been years we've been using these jacked up cameras.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Like everyone talks about, like everyone that's like in the
industry has always said, like the Bachelor cameras are like
much older. How was the Hannah Brown addition?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
How is she amazing? Amazing? So, you know, Hannah, Hannah
is such an incredible personality who's never afraid to tell
it like it is. I think having her perspective there
also was really unique. So Hannah is the head of
Paradise Relations. That's sort of for official title in Paradise,
(23:59):
but she sort of wears mure like different hats. She
helps set up dates, she curates dates for people, she's
there for advice, she's popping champagne for people. She's just
sort of Hannah sort.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Of all all knowing, all around all the time, and
I think having like as big a name as her
and someone who's who's obviously beloved in Ambachador Nation, I
think having having her in Paradise and getting that perspective
from her also, I think really added a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
It was really really great having her there every single day.
And she's someone that the cats just loves, like a
lot of it. Like a lot of the people are
like massive men, like huge hand of breath, and everybody
loves well Everyone loves Wells, like everybody loves Wells.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But they're people who like love fans.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
They're fan girling, like fan girling on the show reading
her books, like it brought her books to Paradise, to reading. Yeah,
it was really.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Cool, Anna to the manager from season one of The
White Lotus.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, we're like, you're the new manager of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, it was. It was great. It was. It was
so cool, And it was great getting to know where too,
because I I obviously knew who she was, but I
didn't I didn't know her personally so well, and obviously
her Wells and I got to hang out a lot
throughout Paradise. We took Wells out for his birthday. We
tried to find dinners like whenever we could. And then
(25:28):
Hannis fiance came down as well and visited, so Adam's great,
So we all got to know each other pretty well.
It was really it was great. Great addition, I have
to say that was that was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Creative, nice.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Last last thing we got to talk about before we
let you go the Golden People.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
How is that?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah? What can you tell us? How did that work out?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I think that's like the big question on so many
people's minds is like, how is this going to work
with the Golden Cast?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yes? So, uh, it was one of it was one
of the things I was most excited about because I've
gotten to know them very well obviously through the through
the Golden Bachelor and Golden Bacherette, and I think I
was always hopeful and aware of the value they could
add to Paradise. So, you know, I was off camera
(26:13):
telling and on camera telling a lot of the younger cast, like, hey,
when they show up, you need to pick their brains,
Like you can't just don't just hang out and have
drinks with them, but like ask them questions about relationships,
ask them questions about life, ask them questions about life
outside of this like really get in get in their minds,
because the greatness of the Goldens is that they don't care.
(26:35):
Like they're at an age now where they've lived their life.
They do not care what people at home think anymore.
They're not using this, they're not trying to be influencers.
After the show's over. Like they've lived their life, they've
done their thing, and you know, they're just trying to
have fun and they were super excited the the the
direction when the Goldens arrive is sort of like, hey,
(26:59):
like you know, you know, we obviously have two completely
different generations here in Paradise, and you know, uh, we're
encouraging you to sort of stay in your generational lane
when it comes to when it comes to dating. Obviously,
I can't. I can't tell anybody who to love and
who want to love not to love. It's not my
job in the point twenty five, you know, you can't.
(27:20):
You can't tell anybody that. But you know, just like
just don't make it weird.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Okay, I think I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, So it's like that that that was kind of it.
And they're great and I'll say this and this this
will be probably a surprise to a lot of people
at home. It's not it's not to me because I've
been around them, but it was. It's actually the Goldens
who I think infused the most energy in the show.
And I'm not taking a shot at the young people.
(27:52):
I'm not taking a shot at a younger cast. But
after a couple of days of shooting, you kind of
start getting comfortable, you know, you start coupling up, and
everybody doesn't. It feels like they're kind of like they're
off edge a little bit. The Goldens bring it every
single day.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yeah, when they filmed Golden Bauchler and Baucherette, they were like,
these guys had way more energy than the usual cast.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
The night one at the Mansion on the Golden Bachelor
and Golden Bacheorette is a bigger party and it actually
goes later than the Younger Bachelor and Bachelorette, if you
can believe that. They go so hard, like the parties
at the pool in Paradise. It was all it was like,
it was the Goldens like turning it up. They turned
(28:37):
up every day.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I wonder what it is.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Bits it's you know, you're born in the fifties and sixties,
times were harder, like you had the work longer hours,
like things were tougher nowadays, everyone's just you know, we
got it, we got it easy.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I think there's an argument for and against that point.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've just yeah, met and hangmore
and hang.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Like like the makeout sessions in the pool and the
body shots.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
No makeout sessions.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
It was broke fucking face in the pool and body shots.
It was the Goldens. I'm telling you just watch, just
just watch.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We will watch, Belie.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Okay, well, Jesse, thank you so much for taking the
time out of your day.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
You can let everyone know where to follow you on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I'm kidding, I don't know my own handle.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
I think I'm totally kidding. Everyone knows who you are
who listens to this podcast. Jesse, thank you so much.
We really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Grat seeing you too.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
We're yeah, we're happy to hear you back in La,
back with the wife and Ella.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah. It's good. Well, I hope, and let's not wait
so long the next time we do want to.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Do yep, one hundred recent.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
You're welcome back whenever. We'll have me back during this
and to get your thoughts on all the chaos.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And you'll be like, oh, yeah, you're right, the golden Yeah,
you're like, damn, it wasn't lying. That's going to be good.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And to all our listeners, thank you so much for
tuning into Bacheler Happy Hour.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
We have new and excicive interviews come your way as
we t up for the new season of Bator in Paradise.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Bye,
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bacher Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We are here with the one and only Jesse Palmer. Jesse,
Welcome to Bacher Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Thanks guys, it's great. Standa. How are we doing? We're good?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm great. I'm I'm formerly sun burnt. It's now turned
into a lot of alvira and it's turning into appealing
ten nice.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Who needs to pay for a chemical appeal when you
can just go to Costa Rica for three weeks and
burn yourself off?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It's true. Yes, it's just exfoliate. Everything is off. It's
a fresh it's like a I feel like a snake.
I've just like peeled off my last my last seed
of skin to due to excessive son in paradise. But
it's great. It's good to be good to be home.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, I'm trying to think when the last time we
had you on this podcast. It was for whose season?
It might it might have been like Clayton season.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I think no time.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, that was my first. That was my first, your
first season, Yeah, I know it's been that long. It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
We must have had you on since then. Maybe Grants
or maybe Zach season.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Maybe I feel like on social I'm always like texting
and like messaging with you guys about food or wherever
you guys are traveling. I'm always like keeping up with
you guys that way.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, we were just in your hometown, right, Montreal.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Back in Montreal. I know, I know. It sounded like
that was quite the adventure.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It was, to say the least, but it was exciting.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I haven't been to Montreal since I was oh gosh,
I mean other than like I was there one night
for work really quick, but I the last monment for
like a week, and I was like eighteen, I think.
So it was more fun this time. Not more fun,
but different going like with money.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
A lot of you know, it's funny too because a
lot of people love to go to Montreal when they're
eighteen because for forever, growing up, the legal age for
drinking was eighteen and Quebec, so that's when everybody would go.
I'm glad you finally went back, and it sounds like
you guys ate something pretty amazing. You guys went to
Joe Beef.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
We went to Joe Beef. What do you think about
that restaurant?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It was? It was I thought it was great, so strong. Yeah,
if anybody out there is ever thinking about going to Montreal,
that's a place you absolutely have to go. And the
lobster pasta is what they're absolutely most known for it.
You guys, did you try that? Joe?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
We got Yeah, I know, I didn't know that. I
didn't know that's what they were knowing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I texted you after saw after we left.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeah, we were like, oh shoot, but we saw the
girls at the table next to us get it and
I was like, oh, shoot, that looks really good.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Really really good. How did you feel about? They have
a giant blackboard there with all of like the menu
written on it. It's in French, though, how did you
get Did that? Did that dissuade you? Did scare you?
We were not in that room. No, there's so there's
I don't know if you've been there. I think they
opened up a new room and we were in the
new one.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's like yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, maybe Liverpool too. It's
like the restaurant right next door, but they also have
the same menu. That place is. I'm so happy you
at least got to got to go there and do that.
I'm actually going back in two weeks. I'm taking Emily
and Ellis, so I'm already had like I'm trying to
put my whole restaurant list together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
No, it was great.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
We ate really well, and I was saying to Joe,
I feel like Canadian cuisine a is just underrated in general.
I feel like you gets so limited to like just poutine.
But I feel like we do do like Canadian cuisine
really well, and I feel like it ties really well
with like farm to table cuisine.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Like trying to describe it.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I was like, I feel like Canada does really well
with like great veggie dishes.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, there's a lot of fun care in the restaurant itself,
Like all the restaurants are very unique, and they all
are really pretty inside, and everything's like meticulous, thoughtful.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah it's a good point. Yeah, it's really They are
great experiences, especially again the summertime. I just feel like,
for whatever reason, I know restaurants all over the world
do this, but I feel like in Canada everybody's like
a forager, you know what I mean, everybody everybody who's
like in their back because everyone lives in the forest,
or at least there's like a forest nearby, you can
kind of go and get herbs and get like berries
(04:12):
or get things and they can like incorporate that into
the Canadian a menu that you guys are eating. That's
really cool. Yeah, you're both lucky though, because obviously Toronto stream,
I know, is like that's that's just such a great
food city itself. And so you know, getting a chance
to kind of do that in Montreal and Vancouver obviously
is great, but all across Canada's is good too. So
(04:32):
I'm glad. I'm glad you guys at least got to
enjoy a little bit while you were there.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, this is this is a better a happy hour
brought to you by Food Network. So okay, before we pivot,
I will say this is kind of a hot take
when it comes to lobster pastas.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I'm not a fan of.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Like a half like a hard shell piece of lobster
in the dish.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I don't well, I think your issue is not the
lobster pasta. You don't like having to like crack a
lobster period, do you know what I mean? Like if
it was like not with my I.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Don't mind cracking the lobster. I just don't want to
do my pasta.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Oh I'm kind of with Joe in that one. Like
I don't want to shell in my dick, like it's
taking up past my bowl. Yeah, pasta, just like remove
the meat and then put it in the pasta. Cut
it up. Here's a question for you. Do you care
if it's a claw, if it's quaw mete or do
you want the tail?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I wouldn't care about that that. I wouldn't care, but
I'm also not. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't really know the difference.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
If I'm gonna be completely honest, I just I just
kind of said I don't care because I didn't want
to sound like an idiot.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
But I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
We just don't want extra stuff. I'm with you too.
Just take the show. It looks cool, I guess if
But anyway, like do you really want this thing? Sometimes
it's the head of the lobster just like staring at you.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, we can get rid of the eyes.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Let's break down paradise just like in like, so you've
been there, now you've hosted it the same place we've
been Cellulita, and now we've completely changed venues. Kind of
just like, your initial thoughts getting there? How's it different everything?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
What was your thoughts before you went?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
When they told you, like, hey, you did two seasons, Salulita,
the format has been kind of the same this whole time,
and now we're switching it up with all these new editions.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
How did you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I was super stoked because I was excited about the
new of it, all the newness, and a little some
of that is scary, obviously, because when things are going
to be new and unfamiliar, you're sort of not really
sure how it's going to work out. So I probably
didn't feel quite as comfortable going into this one just
because of how new everything was. Costa Rica is amazing.
(06:48):
I'd only been there once before that was on Gary
season of The Golden Bachelor, but we were in a
completely different region for that, we were more inland by
a volcano. Paradise is literally on the beach right up
against the jungle, so it sort of has two different
vibes and feels to it. Costa Rica Paradise is way
(07:10):
harder to get to than cellulated Paradise than ogb Ip. Yeah,
it's a six it's a six hour flight from La
You got to drive two hours and then and then
sort of you're there. So it takes like a full
day to sort of finally get get settled and get
set in. But dude, Costa Rica was awesome. And you know,
(07:32):
if you love animals, it's incredible because there are so
many different species of wildlife that you encounter every single
day at work. So obviously, but it was like Iguana Land.
There are massive iguanas the roof next to where I
was staying. Every morning I would walk by to go
(07:54):
get breakfast and it was like the Parliament of iguanas.
There was like fourteen of them on the roof, Giant
ones just kind of looking around. We had like howler
monkeys climbing up trees like where I was staying. Yeah,
it was like it was cool. It was so cool.
And there was like there was like I call them
joker crabs because there were these little crabs that were
(08:16):
like purple and green and orange running around, which was amazing.
Massive frogs massive, not like I mean like like the
size of my face. Yeah, And because the crazy part
is is, you know, we were filming in rainy seasons,
so every day we'd get these crazy tropical torrential downpours
(08:37):
and the frogs just like come out of nowhere and
you're just walking around flashing and there's these massive frogs.
I was in the control room during one shoot, and
I'm not joking. I was just sitting there, you know,
with the producers, and we're kind of watching all the
reality and everything that's going on, and somebody threw a meatball.
Like we were just eating and someone threw like a
meatball at me. It was like a joke, and it
(08:59):
like hit me in the last up and I'm like, dude,
that's crazy. Someone in here in the darkness threw food
at me and I looked down and it wasn't a meatball.
It was a frog. And the frog the frog jumped
like it jumped from like the ceiling and landed in
my lap and then was like sitting in between my
my feet. It was like in the control room, it
was the same everywhere.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, so that's that's less crazy than just some random
producer launching a meatball totally.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
But actually crazy is that that's where your head went
immediately as someone starting a food fight in the control room.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And I don't know why my mind went to the
meatball and I were back on food again. Like it
could have been literally anything. It could have been like
this coffee thing. It could have been anyone. It was
like I felt like Joe's you know, Joe's known. I
just threw a meatball at it. Yeah it was a frog. Anyways,
the animals were great. Costa Rica's amazing that people were fantastic.
(09:51):
It was hot, as it was so hot, it was humid,
it was rainy season, but it was it was like
it was second because we had the beach and water.
You could actually swim in the old Bok you weren't
really allowed to go out there because there was rocks
and cliffs and everything. Yeah, this water, it's like you
could totally in the morning go in. It was super warm.
(10:13):
And then on the other side of it all you
had the jungle, so kind of like the mystery and
the danger and all the crazy stuff whatever it was
in there too. It was I loved it. Once we
got settled in, it was amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
That's really cool and I'm excited to see how the
nature element plays a new role because I feel like
just comparing like Salulita, other than the crabs, literally everywhere
there wasn't a ton of wildlife, Like we were very
much on the beach and then you couldn't really go
in the water. There was always like current issues and
stuff like that. So like having like that beach component
(10:44):
that's active and swimmable in the jungle and the wildlife, like,
I feel like that in itself is going to add
a different feel.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
How was filming during rainy season?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
That's what I was and acid You have to take
a lot of breaks.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
So sometimes five hour stopdowns. It was like severe. And
you remember like at the Old Paradise too, if there's
a lightning strike, everything has to stop and you have
to go in and and so that that was similar
here as well. You know it you were just saying this,
and you know the property was beautiful. I feel like
we had more spaces to film in. They were like
(11:23):
there were just different scenes kind of set up around
Paradise where casts could kind of be. It wasn't just
like the bar with wells or there's like a like
a beach chair down the beach and that's kind of
like it like there's one on one end, one on
the other end. I think there was a lot of
different places people could go, so a lot of different
a lot of different scenery around as well, and so
we just kind of made it work. You know, you
(11:44):
just think all you can do is just kind of
shoot around it and just sort of you're at the
you're at the mercy of mother nature. But you know,
I think everybody took it well. I think, you know,
I know, I know the cast loved it so much more.
I think people like Kat, who had been on a
pre Espachelor in Paradise, you know, going from a room
(12:04):
that you're sharing with like four other women to having
a room that you only have to share with one
other person and there's air conditioning and there's a swim
out pool and all the things. I mean, they're there.
I think they're setup was a lot better at this
time around.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
I'm excited to talk with her and like justin glaze
like people that have done now both settings and like
hear about their different experiences.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
For sure, they looked a lot more rested they did,
and like Kat was always telling me, She's like, I
can wear dresses to these cocktail parties. I can totally
get dressed up. I feel more comfortable things that you know,
you couldn't necessarily wear before because you might not show
for seven days.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, no, I forgot about that.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
There was actually a lot of stuff I packed that
I was like, I can't wear this because I'm gonna
sweat through it.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Do you think that matters?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Do you do you think because our conditions weren't as
luxurious it made.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
For contributed to the drama.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, better TV, I guess, or I wonder about that
a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I think there's like there's this sliding scale because on
one end, to your point, it's like you have to
get mentally tough very early on, but that can be
emotionally exhausting after a while, and then maybe that lends
itself to more drama or better TV. I also think
pastor morale is an important thing though, you know, and
(13:28):
we've all been you know, we've been there, We've done it.
I remember, you know, being the Bachelor, and just you know,
you want to feel you need to feel arrested, you
need to feel taken care of. You want to feel
like people are trying to put you in positions that
you know you're wearing what you want to wear. You
know you're getting enough downtime and rest, you're eating so
that you can just sort of be at your best
all the time, and so I think it's it's that
(13:50):
fine line right where you know, you people are obviously
going to put themselves into some difficult situations and you
have to let that play out too, But I think
you also have to take care of the humans, and
I feel like on Paradise this year, I think we
definitely did that.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's a great point.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Something we've never actually talked about on here is cast
morale because thinking back to my time on the show, like, sure,
the first seven days we were there, I probably got
like two hours of sleep at night, and I was
irritable and maybe a little bit more snippy. But then
I would like try to film chats with Abigail and
I'd be like, Abigail, are you awake? Like come on, like,
we have to get this done. You're killing me here.
(14:26):
But everyone was just so dead, and I feel like,
you know, you get stuff from that, but then you
also get a lot of good stuff from people that
are like I feel my best, I'm going to go
put myself out there, I'm going to talk to this guy.
I'm feeling sexy, I'm feeling energized. So there are like
the pros and cons, and.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
This is sort of like not trying to break the
fourth wall here too, but it's such a good point
you make, and you know, focusing on the cast and
how they're doing. It's also the crew too, though, it's
the people filming the shows. Like in the Old Paradise,
we all stayed an hour away from from Sally Alida
where we were filming, so we would do a roast
ceremony at like four o'clock and if there was lightning,
(15:03):
maybe that got pushed and you don't get done till
five o'clock. Now you're loading into a van and you're
driving back with like ten other sweaty people an hour
away to go to sleep, to wake up three hours
later to get back in the same van, drive down
an hour and film again. I think for the crew too,
I think everybody just was sort of just an in
(15:23):
better shape throughout filming this, and so it'll be interesting
to see. I mean, I think I think the morale
of everybody of everybody was really high. I know certainly
it was for the cast because having done two Paradise
seasons and Sally lead it like that was brutal for
a lot of people. It was. It was incredible television.
But man, I mean, that was that was what a
month of filming.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Out of all the first day casts that's on the show,
everyone knows who they are. Now, who were you most
surprised to see? Happy or shocked or any feelings towards
then cast?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, I was really excited to meet Dale. I had
never met met Dale before. Of course I'd seen him
on Claire's season, and obviously he's a huge story in
Bachelor or Bachelorette law if you will, for obvious reasons.
But he was really the only person there may have
been like just one or two people who I personally
didn't know from a season that I had hosted before.
(16:22):
The other was Kyle from Kate from Katie season. Everybody
else I was familiar with. I was really excited because,
you know, you know, I kind of, you know, before
the cast got announced, I kind of felt like, Okay,
we'll probably have one or two big names and that's
kind of where the story will drive like early on.
But I mean you can go through the list. I
think you know Alex from Grant season, obviously, Dale, we
(16:44):
talked about I think Jeremies and Jessice season, Jonathan from
Jesse season, justin coming back having been in Paradise before.
Kad obviously a big name too, Lexi from Joey's season,
Sam from Gen season, even Zoe from Grant season. I mean,
there was there was like a lot like I feel like,
like for to give you like an awful football analogy,
(17:04):
I feel like there were like several first and second
round picks, like you know what I mean coming into
this where it's like we're like low, there's like a
lot of a lot of big names and like I don't,
you know, I don't know who's who's gonna pair up early,
or what the story is going to be, or or
how the chemistry is going to be between everybody. It
was really really interesting where I feel like in years past,
(17:25):
at least the previous two seasons, like day one, when
I'm in the control room and I'm there with the
producers and I'm sort of watching all the cameras because
you're kind of following all these individual stories and couples,
you're kind of just focusing on one or two screens.
Here there was like multiple people where you just always
wanted to kind of try to keep tabs on everything happening.
So I was really excited on Day one, especially with
(17:49):
the arrivals and then just seeing how everything was going
to interact, because I felt like we had a lot
of big names show up early. It wasn't like it
wasn't necessarily staggered like we've done it in the past.
We found this through a bunch of you know, big
names in there right away and just kind of let
what happened happen.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, Joe and I were talking about this and we
totally agree, like a great starting cast. I feel like
taking that year off gave them kind of their pick
of the litter of who they wanted. They had so
many options of these like single Bachelor National alumni. On
top of that, it felt like a really small starting cast,
like there's only I think like six women that are
(18:26):
going down.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So they're definitely just being more selective.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I don't know what it's been the past few years,
but our season there was like thirteen women on day one,
like it was a big starting cast. So it feels
like they're being a little bit more like intentional with
their choices.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, I think so too, And I think that was
a big p Obviously, having taken a year off, I
think they really had a chance to kind of go
through the cast and talk to them, you know, really
find out you know, you know about them and what
you know, like you said, their intentions coming into this,
and really try to orchestrate and put that together. It
was it was concentrated, It's true, but I think like
(19:03):
they're there. The one thing I remember from day one
and day two I remember talking to Wells and Hannah
about this. People were just kind of like pairing up
and going off and walking and finding a place to
sit and talk. They really got into it faster than
at least the two seasons I hosted where it was
like everyone hanging around the bar. It's like a big
cluster of people that kind of floats around paradise and
(19:25):
then maybe two people break off, but everyone's afraid to
make the first move. Everyone's afraid, like you know, there's
also really nowhere to go, like you just always are
in that contained area. Maybe someone gets pulled for an im.
I felt like, you know, without having to tell them
to do anything, people just sort of started talking to
each other. They went, they got in the pool, they
(19:45):
went over by the beach, they went for a walk,
like they just so yeah, like the people I think
had had good intentions coming into this to like make
this work. And so they started they started paradising very quickly,
if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, And that makes sense too when you say they're
they're like the old Paradise. That first day, there really
isn't nowhere to go. So if you do, like if
you're courageous and you like step out and pull someone,
everyone on the beaches is watching and judging you, and
they're kind of like.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Oh, people don't get brave until nightfall yea, and they
feel like they're like in disguise a little bit and
it's like you can't see everything.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I like, it's you're so right. It's like there's that learning.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Curve day usually of like everyone trying to get their
sea legs. So I do love to hear that they
just like took off with a bang and went for it.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You know. As the host, you know, I kind of
walk out. I'm like, hey, everybody, welcome to Paradise. We're
here in Costa Rica. This is great, all right, you
know on this journey blah blah blah blah blah blah,
how fun guys. You know, Bars open Wells is waiting
for it, and it was just like and just people
just started scattering and finding each other. So that was
that felt really really good, and I don't feel like
we had to waste any time. We just got right
(21:05):
into it.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
I wonder if that was a result of maybe the
smaller cast. I feel like, you know, Joe and I
were like he.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Was second to the beach. I was forced.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
We were there very early in the day, and I
feel like sometimes the energy is like, well, I don't
want to pull someone because what if someone's like what
if someone else comes down?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That I like, and like people are coming down literally all.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
The smaller cast for smaller cast makes it more intimate.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I know, I'm only maybe into three let me chat
with them. I like this one best pull, like it
kind of streamlines all of it.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah. I think also it was intentional. I think in
the way we shot this one too. I think one
of the things I'm really excited for people to see
about this Paradise. I think it's going to look entirely different.
The show creative is a little bit different this year.
But also I think the cameras that were used and
(21:56):
sort of the the way it shot, I think is
going to look a lot different. I'm not a director,
so I can't speak to like specifics of all this stuff,
but I know we used different cameras and I think
with that, what it allowed us to do in some
ways was actually shoot intimate scenes but from further away.
So if you and Joe he pulls you and you
(22:17):
guys are off to on the on the beach somewhere,
there's like two cameras jammed in your face and you're
trying to have this serious talk about you know, what
do you hope to get out of paradise and maybe
you're going to lean in for your first kiss, and
it kind of like makes it awkward. I think we
could sort of shoot further away from people and still
you know, but the cameras were able to catch obviously
everything that was happening, but it didn't make them feel
(22:40):
like they were all jammed up. And I think that
also helped our cast kind of loosen up a little
bit more. I know, I think that was a cognizant
choice that was made going into this year, was we're
already going to have more space, we're going to have
less people, but let's really make them feel like they
have space and that we're not just we're not just
know we're constantly just all over them all the time.
(23:03):
They feel like they can't breathe. And so there's a
stylistic way that this season was shot. I think you're
going to see it right away from the very very
first arrival, it looks totally different.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well it's about time, I mean, Jesus Christ, think they
gotta spend some money. I mean this has been this
has been years we've been using these jacked up cameras.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Like everyone talks about, like everyone that's like in the
industry has always said, like the Bachelor cameras are like
much older. How was the Hannah Brown addition?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
How is she amazing? Amazing? So, you know, Hannah, Hannah
is such an incredible personality who's never afraid to tell
it like it is. I think having her perspective there
also was really unique. So Hannah is the head of
Paradise Relations. That's sort of for official title in Paradise,
(23:59):
but she sort of wears mure like different hats. She
helps set up dates, she curates dates for people, she's
there for advice, she's popping champagne for people. She's just
sort of Hannah sort.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Of all all knowing, all around all the time, and
I think having like as big a name as her
and someone who's who's obviously beloved in Ambachador Nation, I
think having having her in Paradise and getting that perspective
from her also, I think really added a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
It was really really great having her there every single day.
And she's someone that the cats just loves, like a
lot of it. Like a lot of the people are
like massive men, like huge hand of breath, and everybody
loves well Everyone loves Wells, like everybody loves Wells.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But they're people who like love fans.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
They're fan girling, like fan girling on the show reading
her books, like it brought her books to Paradise, to reading. Yeah,
it was really.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Cool, Anna to the manager from season one of The
White Lotus.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, we're like, you're the new manager of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, it was. It was great. It was. It was
so cool, And it was great getting to know where too,
because I I obviously knew who she was, but I
didn't I didn't know her personally so well, and obviously
her Wells and I got to hang out a lot
throughout Paradise. We took Wells out for his birthday. We
tried to find dinners like whenever we could. And then
(25:28):
Hannis fiance came down as well and visited, so Adam's great,
So we all got to know each other pretty well.
It was really it was great. Great addition, I have
to say that was that was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Creative, nice.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Last last thing we got to talk about before we
let you go the Golden People.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
How is that?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah? What can you tell us? How did that work out?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I think that's like the big question on so many
people's minds is like, how is this going to work
with the Golden Cast?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yes? So, uh, it was one of it was one
of the things I was most excited about because I've
gotten to know them very well obviously through the through
the Golden Bachelor and Golden Bacherette, and I think I
was always hopeful and aware of the value they could
add to Paradise. So, you know, I was off camera
(26:13):
telling and on camera telling a lot of the younger cast, like, hey,
when they show up, you need to pick their brains,
Like you can't just don't just hang out and have
drinks with them, but like ask them questions about relationships,
ask them questions about life, ask them questions about life
outside of this like really get in get in their minds,
because the greatness of the Goldens is that they don't care.
(26:35):
Like they're at an age now where they've lived their life.
They do not care what people at home think anymore.
They're not using this, they're not trying to be influencers.
After the show's over. Like they've lived their life, they've
done their thing, and you know, they're just trying to
have fun and they were super excited the the the
direction when the Goldens arrive is sort of like, hey,
(26:59):
like you know, you know, we obviously have two completely
different generations here in Paradise, and you know, uh, we're
encouraging you to sort of stay in your generational lane
when it comes to when it comes to dating. Obviously,
I can't. I can't tell anybody who to love and
who want to love not to love. It's not my
job in the point twenty five, you know, you can't.
(27:20):
You can't tell anybody that. But you know, just like
just don't make it weird.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Okay, I think I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, So it's like that that that was kind of it.
And they're great and I'll say this and this this
will be probably a surprise to a lot of people
at home. It's not it's not to me because I've
been around them, but it was. It's actually the Goldens
who I think infused the most energy in the show.
And I'm not taking a shot at the young people.
(27:52):
I'm not taking a shot at a younger cast. But
after a couple of days of shooting, you kind of
start getting comfortable, you know, you start coupling up, and
everybody doesn't. It feels like they're kind of like they're
off edge a little bit. The Goldens bring it every
single day.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yeah, when they filmed Golden Bauchler and Baucherette, they were like,
these guys had way more energy than the usual cast.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
The night one at the Mansion on the Golden Bachelor
and Golden Bacheorette is a bigger party and it actually
goes later than the Younger Bachelor and Bachelorette, if you
can believe that. They go so hard, like the parties
at the pool in Paradise. It was all it was like,
it was the Goldens like turning it up. They turned
(28:37):
up every day.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I wonder what it is.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Bits it's you know, you're born in the fifties and sixties,
times were harder, like you had the work longer hours,
like things were tougher nowadays, everyone's just you know, we
got it, we got it easy.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I think there's an argument for and against that point.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've just yeah, met and hangmore
and hang.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Like like the makeout sessions in the pool and the
body shots.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
No makeout sessions.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
It was broke fucking face in the pool and body shots.
It was the Goldens. I'm telling you just watch, just
just watch.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We will watch, Belie.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Okay, well, Jesse, thank you so much for taking the
time out of your day.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
You can let everyone know where to follow you on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I'm kidding, I don't know my own handle.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
I think I'm totally kidding. Everyone knows who you are
who listens to this podcast. Jesse, thank you so much.
We really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Grat seeing you too.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
We're yeah, we're happy to hear you back in La,
back with the wife and Ella.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah. It's good. Well, I hope, and let's not wait
so long the next time we do want to.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Do yep, one hundred recent.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
You're welcome back whenever. We'll have me back during this
and to get your thoughts on all the chaos.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And you'll be like, oh, yeah, you're right, the golden Yeah,
you're like, damn, it wasn't lying. That's going to be good.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And to all our listeners, thank you so much for
tuning into Bacheler Happy Hour.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
We have new and excicive interviews come your way as
we t up for the new season of Bator in Paradise.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Bye,
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