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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe
and I'm Serena and we are here today with Juliana. Juliana,
welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thanks for having me, guys, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
How you doing. How you feeling.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I'm just excited to
be here.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Nice. All right, we've been watching you. We just saw
we watched your one on one. We'll get all into that,
but before we do a little background, where are you
currently living.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm right outside of Boston. I'm in Newton, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Nice. Nice that where you grew up.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, I grew up in Newton. I actually grew up
in the same house that my mom grew up in.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
So oh that's so nice. Wow, that's gonna be a
hard day if you guys ever have to sell that house.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I know, I know, they just got a house in Florida.
So I'm like, can you just keep this house for
a few more years till I can buy it?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, I'll keep it in the family. I was actually
just at my parents' place this past weekend and I
was thinking, like, Damn, I'm gonna be really sad if
they ever sell this house or so many memories or
the couch in the basement. Yeah, the couch in the
basement is so comfortable, big.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's like traveling couch that my grandmother had in her
house and we can't get rid of it. It's like
a purple couch, and purple was her favorite color. So
it's just like rotating from like storage unit to like house.
You have the heart to like do anything with this.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Someone's got to design like a whole room just around
this purple couch.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Surely, So you're from a big Italian family? Nice?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Sure are?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
What's your favorite what's your favorite Italian food? Your favorite dish?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I go between couch a pepe and I love a
good chicken palm. So this depends on how hungry I are.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Do you speak any Italian or does anyone in your family?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Not really, to be honest, I have a couple, we
have a couple of people that do because we go
to this small town in Italy every few years, and
so we just are all duck behind the few that
can actually understand and speak.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But I've been on duo lingo and I got a
pretty good streak going.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh get it?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
We were When Serena and I were in Italy for
a honeymoon.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I was speaking no Joe would tell Joe's Italian. He
doesn't speak a liak of Italian, no one in his
family does. And we were in Italy and they would
be like, oh. He'd be like, oh a Mobeli, like
you're Italian? Do you speak any Italian? And he would
say a little bit like in French. You were like,
and I'm like, first of all, that's not Italian. Tek A, well,
you don't speak a little Italian. You know they're gonna
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start talking. You're not gonna know what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Take it to them.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
They know.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
They'd be like, okay, so you're lying.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So, Juliana, how did you get on the Bachelor?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So a couple of years ago, my sister and I
started to do you know, Monday Wine Night, and we
were just watching a few seasons and somewhere along the
way she signed me up and never told me so.
So I got a call this past like April, and
you know, it took me off guard and they asked
if I'd ever been interested, and my sister signed me up,
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and I just.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I was kind of like fifty to fifty at first.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And I just thought there was you know, no harm
in going through the process, and ultimately it panned out.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And then I was on what was dating life like
for you before going on?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Uh, very minimal, not too much happening in the relationship standpoint.
I'm I don't really love first dates and I don't
love second dates. So I was kind of just doing
my thing. But I was on the dating apps and
swiping for fun. It's like online shopping.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
This is a good show for you. Then like if
you're like I don't like that, like initial like oh
like texting, got to get to know them, Like this
really is a good process for you.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Ye, I was speed dating.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You know, do you have any any guys in your
past that you think, like, watch the show and like
what the fuck she's what's she doing on here?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's funny because I'm friends on social media with some
of them, like Instagram, and so I've got a couple
of d ms, but mostly they're on my side. You know,
they're rooting for me and all good. Everything ended well,
you know, I never ghosted anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I just I just was like, you know, this isn't
for me.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You've never you've never ghosted anyone ever?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh, I probably ghosted somebody at some point. Yeah, just yeah,
some people. I probably was like walked down that first
date and was like block number delete. Yeah again done
with yel Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
All right, let's get into the show. How did you
decide on your night one dress, your night one introduction
with Graham, all the things?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, so my sister helped me with all of my dresses,
like all my outfits. She we did sticky notes, and.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
She basically packed my suitcase for me.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
So I felt really good in that department and I
went in with an idea, but me ultimately, my producer
and I kind of worked to tie in a couple
of like aspects of myself, Like I'm known for loving
a good sweet treat and I'm Italian, and so we
just tried to combine the two and we came up
with a canoli and uh wanted to give him a
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little taste of me right right from the jump.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, super cute. And then what was your first impression
of Grant? Was he kind of what you expected?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I I for sure like blacked out the minute I
got out of the Uber, I mean the uber, the
limb full of it were black, Yeah, uber.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Black to the house an uber.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I probably should have, but yeah, no, he was looks wise,
you know, everything that I was excited for. And then
even more, he was like taller than I realized. He
was more handsome in person then, you know, I think
I anticipated, which took.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
My breath away a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But I think one of the coolest things was like
when I was talking to him, I could just tell
he was really like listening to me. It's in like
your body language and your eye contact and things like that,
and so that I was like, Okay, I was a
little reassured that I thought he was. I had an
inkling that he.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Was a good guy.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Were you at all worried that first night that you
could potentially go home? Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But it's not until I think the rose ceremony that
you really kind of get that rush of emotions because
there's so much happening and you're also getting to know
girls and trying to think about, you know, your conversation
with him, and when you're standing in the rose ceremony
that first night, it's it's so many emotions that you
grapple with of like, you know, your ego and your
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heart and the desire to, you know, want more opportunities
to kind of get to know him and for him
to get to know you. And you're like, oh my god,
if I go home, I think I'll feel like embarrassed
and sad are the.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
First things that I think I would feel.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, it's pretty embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
No shame to the night one go homes.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
But Joe went home Night one. You're like, yeah, it
is embarrassing. I'm speaking from experience, just shitting on that night.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Want, Well, if any of the Night one people come
for me, then they'll they'll figure out that I want
home night one.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You know. Yeah, but you know what, everything happens for
everything that was for a reason.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
How was your first conversation that first night with Grant?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was good? It was good, you know, I was.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I was having the worst time of my life trying
to play the piano. I will admit that, you know,
because I don't really know how to play. I just
taught myself Moonlight sonata.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Oh my gosh, it's like.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
What that's how I speak Italian?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, I'm like a big piano player.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And then all of a sudden, I was trying to
win a man over with my lack of skills, and
but he made a joke of it.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It was good.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It kind of was the initial feeling of like, oh wow,
we can be kind of goofy together.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So I walked away feeling really good.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
That's so funny because I played chess on night one
that was like my activity, and I had said like, yeah, no,
like I've played chess before. We got like a big
chess board. I was super excited chess, okay, So like
I guess I had like more confidence in myself than
I should have, because like when the time came, I
was like, I don't think I've played chess like fifteen years.
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But I was like, you know what, it's okay, Like
he's not here looking for a chess player, and I
don't think grants they're looking for a pianist, So it's okay.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, Like that's I'm going to take that off my
resume moving forward.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm not going to tell anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That what girls did you click with from the beginning,
and that any of those girls stick around to being
one of your closest friends in the house. It's kind
of a word weird way to phrase.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's okay, you.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Know, yeah, you know, night one, me and Ali Joe
just clicked immediately, and she was definitely my my safety net,
you know, until she went home.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But I'd like to think.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That me and a lot of the girls ended up
having really good relationships, and I hope, you know, we
can maintain them.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
After the show.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I did get really close with Vicky and Parisa, And
as you get deeper and deeper into the process and
there's fewer and fewer of you, you kind of start
to lean on people that maybe you didn't initially, you know,
get be attracted to. And you know, I got really
close with Sara, Fina and Letia and uh. I think
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that they'll I hope that they'll be lifelong friends.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, I feel like it's such a special bond, especially
when when you first come off the show and it's airing,
you know, being able to connect with these people, even
if it's only for a season of life, but you
do have this like really intense shared experience.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, and especially in the aftermath of it, having people
that you know just also can understand what you went through.
Because I can talk to my friends and my family
about this all day, and you know, they can give
me the usual advice that does help, but it's also
they don't really understand where I'm coming.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
From hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Different for sure. Well, did you watch the show before
you went on it for a couple of seasons?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember when I started, but I
to be completely honest, I was just going to my
sister's house on Monday night to drink some wine and
you know, and then it just kind of turned into this,
what we have something to watch and I got into it.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Any season that you would say has been your favorite, I.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Would say, I mean just because it's kind of all
I really remember.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like Joey's season was really good.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I thought all the girls on that were really fun.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Jen season was a little harder to.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Watch, I feel like, because it was a pretty accurate
representation of like the current dating world with like the
men that were on it.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, And so as a viewer, you know, watching her
kind of try and maneuver that in the setting that
she was in, when we're trying to do that on
the outside world too, it's like you.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Can't help but just root for her and want her
to succeed.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
All right, let's fly through a little bit of the
drama this season and get some of your thoughts and
then we'll dive deeper into your one on one this week.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Wait wait, wait, wait, wait real quick before we do. Yeah,
I go off. What's it been like watching yourself back?
Has that been weird? Are you been? Is that something
you're comfortable with?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
It's weird, for sure, it's cringey. You know, you're your
own worst critics. So I've been having like a hard time,
but at the same time just trying to take everything
with a grain of salt and laugh because I have
a mindset that, you know, life is.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Just too serious to take seriously.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
So if I can make a joke out of something,
it almost stings less when someone else tries to make
a joke out of.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
It too, because we can laugh together.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
And it's also been a really good opportunity to see
things about myself that I like and see things about
myself that maybe I want to change, and that's between
me and my conscience, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
So it's it's weird.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's definitely like a kind of like something I wish
I could run away from, but at the same time,
it's it's helpful if you allow it to be.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
How's your family watching you kiss a boy.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
We do Seeah, we do see in that, we do see.
You can't you can't spoil it. I don't know if
you're dad serious or not, but we do see. And
the teaser her dad, it's like.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Just did you just kiss my daughter? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
He it's hard for them, not hard, but it's different
for them for all the reasons of seeing it on TV.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But also I haven't brought like I've never brought a
guy home.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That's only happened once in my life, and so they've
never really seen me interact with like men that I'm
romantically involved with, and so I'm the baby of my family.
My parents are like, what the hell is happening? Even
though I'm twenty eight, They're like, she's still like a
baby to them, and so watching me kiss other people,
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like it's cringey for me. I can't imagine how god
awful it is for them. I just made them beg, beg.
I begged them to, like promise me that if it
looked like that was gonna happen, close your eyes, just please.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Close your eyes, look away, look away.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yep, never happened. Don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
That's so funny. Anything since watching it back happened on
the show that you were really surprised by or you
were like, WHOA, I didn't know that happened, or like,
I can't believe this person was saying that.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
I feel like because it's a smaller cast the season,
that doesn't happen as much.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, it really didn't.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I mean, we had such a from my perspective, really
awesome group of girls that was, you know, we were
able to kind of keep our cards close to our
chest but also like support each other and listen, and
you know, I don't think anyone really had any sort
of like malicious intent with anything. And the drama was,
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from my eyes.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Very minimal. So yeah, nothing really surprised me.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
The Lama was like probably one of the most surprising
things night one, because I just I don't know what
I thought when he told me there was going to
be a lam inside, but I did not think there
was going to be a real lama like Greef.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I forgot you were the one. He said that too.
That was so funny.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, he was like said that, and I was like, okay, cool,
like catch you later.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
And then you're like, what did he just say to me, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
You're like, what a weird joke? And I was like, wait,
what so funny?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Jumping to some of the conflicts and drama in the house,
I would.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Says, maybe start with the start with.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The Zoe stuff, because that seemed to end in a
in a positive light. It seems like that kind of
went away.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
You were on both the you were on the basketball
group date and the finance group date, right, mm hmm okay,
So in your eyes, were you surprised on that first
group date when Zoe pulled him where you're like whoa,
Like here we go, like it's all happening.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't know if surprised is the word, because I
feel like that's a common theme in this season, like someone's.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
But I will say is that, like the amount of
time that it took away from us is something I
wasn't really anticipating.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So I know that that's kind of what ruffled a
lot of feathers.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And then just like the way she came back in
to like greet us afterwards was it wasn't the best
from my perspective, So I think that also was like
just even like digging digging the hole deeper and adding.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Like fuel to the fire that she she started.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
But you know it's fine, Like not everybody is going
to go in there with the same game plan, but
I think it's just for me, it's a matter of
like respecting people. And I think when she came back
is when I was like, oh wow, like she she had,
you know, no thought of us and what you know
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what her actions could maybe like prevent us from doing
which is you know, all trying to be there to
get to know him.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, so usually when that should happen into it like
lingers throughout the season, but it does seem like it
kind of just like went.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Away as episode two.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, like after a little bit it went away.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Could you give us some insight into is that how
it felt like she came in hot and then it
dissipated a little bit or what was kind of the dynamic.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, it was kind of like it that happened right
the basketball date happened, and I think that tensions were
high for a lot of reasons that.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Day, and.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So we tried to sort it out that night and
we didn't really get to a conclusion and we all
just needed to go to sleep. Regroup, figure out what's
going to happen next. The finance date, I think is
what kind of made things more confusing, because in between
that period we had kind of sorted through things, and
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you know, obviously you guys don't get to see everything,
but there's so many conversations that happen, and nobody ever
wanted anybody.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
To feel, you know, isolated by choice.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And so when she when Grant came back in and
did you know his like mic drop drop moment about
us like belittling people, I mean I just kind of
looked around and we were going like one by one saying,
you know, what was your conversation about? What was your
conversation about? And it was so late. I was so tired.
I was like, let's skip to the point.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Oh yeah, you were the one you to the.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Chase, Zoe, what was your conversation about? Okay that yeah, yeah,
And honestly, good for you, because like we were even
watching it being like we don't need to do this dance,
like everyone's sitting there no knowing that like this case
or it most likely came from Zoe, you know, like
we could start there and then work our way backwards.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, thank you, sat up our TV, our TV watching.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And you know, we had.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Been all talking like just about how fun the date
was and how you know, it was so light, and
especially coming from the basketball date where we were like,
you know, humbling each other.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We're like, this was nice, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And then she opened up and talked about, you know,
her emotions and they were so valid. But I think
to kind of hear that from her and try and
support her, then.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
To hearing like all of a sudden we were belittling.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It was like we were just trying to figure out
what it was so we could you know, stand better
with her and support her because we didn't understand what
what like that was stemming from.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I guess yeah and yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And then and then it just kind of like after that,
you know, you see us all sobbing and crying, and
I think we were all just trying to figure out
like if we were ever going to be able to
find like common ground or if this was going to
be you know, maybe more of like a victimizing situation
where we couldn't win no matter.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
What we did.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
And that felt like, you know, full loss, because then
it's he said, she said, And that was the trajectory
of like the season.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I don't think any of us would have been able
to like.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Last Yeah, it probably just felt like, oh my gosh,
we're already so drained and like we have no idea
how long this conflict is going to go on for
and you're so tired, like it's overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So then so you and Zoe both make it to hometowns,
do you guys eventually start getting along? Like is everything cool? Then?
After all that?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I mean it was after the basketball date, we resolved things,
After the finance date, you know, we resolved things too.
It was like we don't have to be friends, you know,
we don't have to even really agree with each other.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
We just have to be cordial and.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
We have to understand that, like there are multiple people
involved in this, and you can't just make it about
yourself when you're in a group setting. You know, take
that time when you're alone with your own thoughts or
you know, with Grant to like figure that out, but
don't kind of like spew.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That on us all the time. And it was good
and we're fine.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, Okay, so here comes Carolina and oh Carolina and
roh Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess like what's your point
of view on the whole Carolina situation or do you
want to do you want to do part by part?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Let's do Carolena and Rose first and then we'll jump.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
To okay, Carolina and Rose. Because here as a viewer
and I was like kind of recapping the show and
watching the show, it's kind of like you feel bad
for Rose, but in the same breath, you're kind of like,
why would you tell Like, in my opinion, like why
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would you tell Carolina that Grant said that?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Like why why see that conversation?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, like why give up that information? Because really, that's
that's hurting you, no matter what way you look at it,
by releasing that to Grant.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I know.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, it's so tricky because I remember it was prom
night and I saw Carolina having kind of a long
conversation with Grant, and I forget who I was talking to,
But my perspective was like, you know, oh good, let
her have this long conversation. She's probably talking about all
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the insecurities she talked to us about NonStop when she
came home from the date, and she might either finish
that conversation and like leave, or she might stop having
all these doubts, and then the conversations with us will.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Be better.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Because we had I don't think any of the girls
had any idea that that had happened, you know, behind.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Between her and Carolina and so oh interesting.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
She hadn't mentioned it to anyone of like, oh my god,
guess what Rose said to melast Night.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
No. I don't think so, because we were all kind
of like, what is she talking about? I was the
one being like.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
All our insecurities that she's been talking to us about,
so like, let it happen?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Were her insecurities, her insecurity, like her being insecure if
like Grant was into her, or her being.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, we're hearing a lot on the show of like
her negive, Like we're hearing vague statements of like her
insecurity is her negative comments? But like, could you give
us a little yeah, just like like what more specifically
was it?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
The tricky thing is that obviously a lot of conversations
do tend to happen off camera, and I don't know
if that's intentional for these reasons or not, but you know,
I don't want to necessarily play telephone.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But there were, from my eyes, some doubts about who
he was as a person and the process, which is
fine and fair, but you kind of have to accept
that going into it, and you can have doubts, but
to constantly tear down what we're all also here to
do is hard to hear.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
And just doubts about, like like going on American Idol
and being like, this is a singing competition, Like.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Oh yeah, you know, because I don't even know if
I could sing, and you were like, well, then why'd
you come?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You know, It's like you can do your best, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
You can also opt out if you realize it's not
for you and nobody will judge you. So I think
hearing the things about Grant that we did, especially when
she was the one who had kind of one of
the only few people who had alone time with him,
we're all trying to make sense of, you know, this
process and him as a person, and we're kind of
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taking what people are saying and making our own judgments.
So to hear negativity about him when we haven't had
a chance to really get to know him is hard
because then you're maybe more reserved than you already were,
or you're not ready to like open up, or you
don't trust him because of somebody else's you know, emotions,
and uh so it's tricky, you know it art and
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it was it was just really negative all the time.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Gotcha, that's that's helpful context for sure. So she comes
back from her conversation with Grant, and I'm assuming Grant
then pulls Rose right away and does it kind of
start to unfold within the house of what's happening?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, I was sitting next to Rose and he came
in hot and he was like, Rose, can I talk
to you?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And I kind of like looked at her, like, oh wow.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
He's like you let's go outside, dude.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I looked at him and I was like, oh, like,
he's not He's not really happy. He doesn't look like happy.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And uh when she left, we were all kind of like, ooh,
what's happening? And then I think, you know, that's when
the game of telephone started happening, and girls were kind
of finding out little pieces of info and we were
putting things together, and I was just like, oh shit.
My initial reaction was the same. It's like, Rose, why
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would you say that? You know what, what possibly did
you think was gonna happen that could have a positive
impact on yourself, him, Carolina or the group by like
speaking that into existence. And I said that to her
right after the Rose ceremony. I was kind of you know,
I I lost my composure for a second and I
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was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
And uh, then I think you start to kind of
get to know people's personalities more. And I don't think
Rose had a single ounce of like malicious intent. I
think that she thought she was being provided with a
safe space to have a girl to girl conversation in
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a way that compartmentalized her friendship over the over the relationship,
and ultimately I think she got burned because of it
because she maybe trusted the wrong wrong person or people.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
That's so hard. It was unfortunate because we did like Rose,
and I mean we still like Rose, but it just
like that incident, once it happened, it was going to
be really hard for her to come back from.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, I don't I don't think there's really any any
coming back from that.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
In the short amount of time that you have.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
If you're trying to dig yourself out of a hole
during that time, it's like it's almost useless.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah, you just don't have enough time on this show
to dig yourself out of a hole, you know, like, yeah, you're.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Okay, let's let's talk about you now we It's you know,
it's the the day or week before hometowns. You guys
are in Edinburgh at this point, you haven't had a
one on one. Where is your mindset with where you
stand with Grant going into Edinburgh?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Well, I remember one of me and Grant's first conversations.
I had told him, you know, I was like, do
not give me a one on one too early, because
like I won't open up, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Literally really yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
And then so then we're like, you know, we leave Scotland,
and I was like.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Shit, like I think I think I messed that up
because you know, I don't even know if.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I'm going to get one night. You mean Madrid leaving Madrid?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yes, yes, yes, And I was like, oh my gosh,
like I definitely like screwed this one up. I probably
should have kept my mouth shut and just let him
do what he thought was best. And I was panicked
because I thought kind of going into Madrid, I was like.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Oh, you know, it's going to be my time to shine.
He's keeping me around for a reason.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And then you.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Know you're like, Wow, we've won more chance before hometowns,
And I didn't know if I was even going to
be able to go to hometowns, if I didn't have
that one on one time, or if he was going
to even be able to see.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
That like future with me.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
That's so interesting because we literally just talked about this
on our recap, and I think in Madrid I had said,
like I thought this might be like I thought Juliana
might get the date this week, and we were just
saying I was like, I don't know, like what happened,
but like this is a late date, Like it's not
a good sign, Like I don't know how this has
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happened that like you know.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
It's taking yourself out of the game. If I, if
I was granted, I would have been I would have
fucked with you, for sure. I would have been like
I chose someone up that could have been you, and
I would have just walked away.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I could have been you.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh. I was definitely like shaking in my boots for sure.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
But it seems like as much as it probably provoked
some anxiety in Madrid, it may be paid off in
the long run because you did get the chance to
open up and maybe you wouldn't have felt comfortable if
you've gotten like a week two, week three date.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, and and it's a it's a funny position to
be in. But honestly, I think the later one on
ones are a little bit better because you have such
a good If you have such a good time and
you are able to kind of like get deeper, then
moving forward there's less and less girls, so you know,
you get more time to continue, you know, to work
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on that where in the beginning, it's like you feel
for girls who get the first one on one because
then kind of like the rest of the time they're
watching other people get those opportunities, and you're back in
a group setting in the minimal cocktail date night time
and rose ceremony time, and you depend on like those
moments to build on a relationship that you had a
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whole like day date and night portion to really kind
of like get into.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, you essentially never had to go from a one
on one back to a group date. Yeah, you got
your one. It was like group dates and then one
on one dates. That's nice, Yeah, that is nice.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, it was a good feeling.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, so you get this princess dress up date. How
do you feel about the activity? How's it going with Grant?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's going really good with Grant.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
You know, I think this was definitely one of the
times where we just had fun during the day portion.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
For sure, we kind of just you know.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
In the little moments that you do have when you're
not you know, having a deep conversation or you know,
you're kind of switching up scenes or settings, you kind
of just get to know somebody in in those like
little moments a lot more so I started to feel
really comfortable with him, and so, you know, not to
say that things were just.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Like surface level, but it was more like a let's
just have.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Fun because we don't know what's going to happen, and
let's try to enjoy each other's company and see if
this is something that you know, could could.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Actually really work on the outside world. Then we did that,
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
We we did a little dress up, we uh, you know,
drink some champagne. We got to like dance, you know,
and on a red car.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
How awkward.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Sow And the worst with those dates is you're like,
I don't want to do this, but at the same time,
like the sooner we get this done, the sooner it's over.
The sooner we nail this dance scene, the sooner we
can stop dancing.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yes, I was like praying that, you know, my date
was not gonna involve one of those like you know,
uh singers or artists and it's just YouTube. Ah, I'm
so awkward and like I don't know how to dance,
and so I was just like, that's probably not for me.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But luckily we had you know, professional dancers around us,
and I hope that they you know, they were still
in the show.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, so they killed it.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah. See that's the that's the like Paradise, like how
you explained, like you know, between sets and like being
able to like get to know somebody that way, Like
Paradise is the opposite, like you actually get to know
somebody like all day and then like those on screen
moments are kind of like I.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Would I would flip what you're saying and say, like
the in between moments that you get on Bachelor and
Bachelorette is like most of your time on Pair and Ice.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
First, that's what I said.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I know that's what you meant. I don't know if
that's what you said. That's fair following now, Yeah, yeah,
and then we go into the night portion and you
open up about your experience having someone close to you
in your life deal with substance abuse, which is something
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that Grant can relate to. He's been very open about
his father struggles and how that's impacted his family's relationship.
Was it comforting opening up to him about that, knowing
that he was hopefully going to have a deeper level
of understanding.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, I truthfully, when I listened to his interview before
coming on Coming on the season, that was one of
the things that I found most endearing about him was
that he knows what it's like to love somebody and
watch them struggle with that.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But rather than you know, there's no rulebook for.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Handling substance abuse, there's no right or wrong way, and
everybody you know handles things differently. But to see him,
like see love, be at the forefront of how he
was viewing it and handling it, that to me meant everything,
because you know, that's how myself and my big family
kind of went into that and it paid off well
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for us. It doesn't always pay off, but to have
somebody that had been through that and handled it similarly,
I felt really comfortable talking talking to him about it.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So do you think you're did that make your relationship
stronger after that conversation and just after your entire one
on one.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I think that you know, you see somebody in interviews
or you see the way they talk about it, you know,
to to other people, but to have that conversation with
somebody who's also been through it and be able to
connect on that. And one of the one of the
biggest things too about it is you know, when you're
go going through that in your you kind of isolate yourself,
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whether that's by choice or by circumstance. Being able to
find the strength and the determination to dig yourself out
of it.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Is really powerful.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
And to me, that's a characteristic of him or character
trait of him that I got to really understand, and
that for me was enough to be like, Okay, another checkbox,
Like he's a good one.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I want I want to keep them.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Going into your one on one date, where would you
say your relationship was that? And then leaving your one
on one date, how are you feeling about everything.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Going into it?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Nerve wracking because you know, you kind of have We've
had we had a really good base I will say that,
you know, we have had we had really good conversations.
Some were just silly and lighthearted and some were really serious.
But you know, for the most part it was I
was still trying to understand if I really like him,
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and so leaving the one on one, I felt sure
about him as a person from the conversations we had,
and you know, I don't think anybody's perfect, but I
think that he is, you know, a really well rounded, compassionate,
caring man, and that was the type of person I
wanted a future with.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
So I felt secure.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Were you at this point, now we're pretty deep into it,
Are you starting to compare your relationship to the relationship
of the other girls with him? Like, is there anyone
you're worried about at this point?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I tried to really just compartmentalize that with the girls,
and I pride myself that I feel.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Like I did a really good job.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I was always able to listen when girls wanted to
talk about their time, and I never took it personally
because I, like I said, I'm a bit of a
slow burn, So I'm never the one that kind of
just like latches onto somebody and gets jealous.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'm kind of like we're all dating him, we all
kind of like him. You know, what did you like
and what did you dislike?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
And I kind of took that back with me and
and tried to kind of save it for for future
use informing.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
My own opinion.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
So I was never really like intimidated or nervous by
anybody's relationship, but I definitely saw what I felt is
some relationships were stronger than than others. And you try
to resonate with the girls in terms of like, oh,
you know, if like, am I like her? You know,
is he is he going to make sense for me?
But not necessarily by like intimidation, it's just in comparison,
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by nature of the circumstances.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
What I was waiting to see if you were gonna
ask her, if I was gonna ask, well, I was.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Gonna what I was going to ask? Well, we'll both well,
we'll both present our questions and you choose which one.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
No, no, no, you go you go?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Was there were you were you at all surprised by
who we chose to take the hometowns? Was there anyone
that went home that you were like, huh and see
that coming?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, I think Natalie going home was like a big
one for me. Parisa even going home. I got really
close with Parisa and I loved, you know, everything about her.
And so it's just like, like I said, you kind
of start to resonate with certain girls, and you wonder
where his head's at if he's sending some home and
not others. And you know, we're all we were all
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really like amazing girls and beautiful inside and out. But
it's still the people that you see maybe a little
bit of yourself in that when they get sent home,
you kind of feel like, oh shit, like what is
he thinking?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
And am I next?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
So we just saw Carolina, Sara, Fina, and Alex. Alex
just got sent holme.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, so out of those women were you were you had?
Also did you think like maybe Dina was not going
to make it and Alex was or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
No, I think I felt I felt pretty good about, like,
you know, him keeping a Dina and Letia. Those made
sense to me. Obviously he's got a tough position to make.
But Zoe not having one on one time, Yeah, that
to me was like surprising because I was like, Wow,
their connection must be so strong in the small amount
of time that they got that he didn't even feel
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like he needed that additional time.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And that was a surprise to me.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Not that I didn't like see their connection, but obviously
Zoe was not really like opening up to the group,
so she was very closed off, so you don't really
know kind of what was happening behind closed doors with her,
And so it definitely that took me by surprise.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
No, that took us by surprise too for the exact
same reason, just like, oh wow, like the connection must
be strong based on like the fact she didn't get
a one on one she's still going to hometowns.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
I want want to quickly ask you not to take
it off the love and bring it back to the drama.
But you were like had a little moment with Carolina
and then we saw you talk to Grant about that. Yeah,
were you nervous at all to bring that to him?
For what that may have meant for your relationship with him,
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your relationship in the house. I know that can be
like a scary position to be in.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Okay, Well I want to I would like to say
with that is you know, I think if you really
rewind and watched the conversation that I had with with
Carolina initially and how I started it. I truly went
in there with the intention of having a girl to
girl respectful conversation and bring up.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
That the fact that her her words and her.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Actions were having a negative effect on the people around her,
because I did not think that she was aware of that,
and it was in her response to me is what
made it feel and look more like a confrontation than
what was ever intended. Gotch And so then my conversation
with Grant, you know, a like I said, there's a
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lot of things that happened behind closed doors, and I'm
not a liar, and there's truth in what I said,
But I thought that my game plan going into the
night was that I was not going to bring it
up to him, and I wasn't going to bring it up,
you know, ever again to the other girls.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
He wanted to address it, and it was it.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
I felt it would be doing him a disservice if
I didn't at least try to present the facts that
I knew, not any of the hearsay, not any of
the telephone, just things that I knew that had been
said about him and his character and how it was
affecting the group and that to me is true to
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who I am. So you know, that's just a little
taste of it. And if he didn't like that, then
it was probably for the best of us.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
You know. I went home.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Because I'll never not speak truthfully and stand on my
own business.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
But I will also never.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Poke my neck into situations that don't necessarily require my words.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Well. Yeah, and if he's asking you, you're obviously going
to say, Okay, well, you're asking me a direct question.
I am going to give you my most honest answer
because you're asking me for information, and I'm gonna I'm
not gonna lie or say something that don't feels true.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah, And I would never intentionally try to paint somebody
in a negative light. You know. Obviously things are cut
and clipped as to you know, the story that needs
to be told, and that's fine.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And what was shown did come out of my mouth.
I think that there's just a.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Lot more to the story, but that I was able
to provide him some clarity in that.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
On a scale one through ten ten being love, one
being hate, Carolina fall on.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
That show, that's such an aggressive question.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Oh my god, I think that right now Carolina and
I are in a very similar position that we've opened
ourselves up to public judgment and some people are going
to agree with her and disagree with me, and vice versa.
But the one thing that I would never do is
try to bring an additional negativity her way, knowing that
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it could hurt her. I wasn't trying to tear her
down in the conversation when I pulled her one on one,
and I'm not trying to tear her down now, and
I will never try to tear her down because I
respect her as a person and a human. I just
don't have to like her, and that's fine and that's fair,
and that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Okay, so you hate.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Wait, may I ask? Is that the motivation for the
be nice T shirt you're wearing today? For everyone listening,
Juliana's wearing a white T shirt and a black letters
that says be nice?
Speaker 2 (43:59):
I think you know.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
One of the one of the biggest things that I
try to pride myself in is the quote that my
grandmother used to say, and she instilled in my entire
family's life. And I have a tattooed on me, and
it says, it's nice to be nice and you know,
life is just way too hard and it's too serious
to spread anything but kindness. And you know, the people
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that deserve to be loved the least need to be
loved the most. So be nice, bitches.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Okay, before and play a quick game with you. Okay,
before we do, going into quick question, what do you
most worried about going into hometowns with Grant meeting your
family or not worried maybe just nervous.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah, Like when I tell you my family is like
loud and crazy and they just like if they don't
know you, they will have you come sit for you
a drink and ask you your life story. I didn't
know if that was going to be overwhelming, and knowing
he was also meeting three other women's families, like I
didn't want him to feel like it was too much
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and I had no idea like who was really gonna
like show up and show their you know, loudness out
and say something out of pocket.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
And I was just I was so nervous about that, Like.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
I love my family and so going into this, it
was like you have to love these people because if
you love me, you're gonna love them and they will
love you right back.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
But we're not for everybody, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
I feel you, yeah, I feel you there. Okay, we're
gonna play a quick game, rapid fire. Get to know Juliana.
It's just Juliana. Okay. First thing that comes to your head.
What is your dream vacation destination?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I want to go to sicily.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Favorite comfort movie or TV show?
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Step Up?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
How do you want step Up?
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (46:01):
That was a throwback, asked, I was not expecting that.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
How do you unwind after a long.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Day a glass of cabsov What is.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Your love language.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Love letters?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
What is your favorite home cooked meal?
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Pasta and turkey meatballs from my sister.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
What is your go to drink at a bar?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
A dirty extra dirty martini with jin Hendricks? Please?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
What is someone who is someone? I just had one
of those. Who is someone that inspires you?
Speaker 2 (46:39):
My grandmother? Olympia?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
What music artists would you love to see perform live?
Speaker 3 (46:46):
I don't really like concerts, but I feel like uh,
Teddy swims like that.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
If you were stranded on a deserted island and you
could only bring two girls from your season, who would
you bring?
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Ali, Joe and Parisa? Because priests would take care of
all the all the bugs.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
What is a piece of advice you've never forgotten.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
When life gives you hell, just keep going because why
would you ever want to stay in hell?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
What are three essentials you always have in your purse?
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Chapstick, a little perfume, and extra contacts because I'm blind?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
And if you could describe Grant season in one word,
what would it be?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Eventful?
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Eventful? It has been eventful.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Juliana, thank you so much for coming on Bachelor Happy
Hour and taking the time. It was really great interviewing
you and getting to know you.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
And thank you everyone for tuning in the best for
Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Don't forget to watch Juliana and the other women on
Grant's Hometown episode coming up, and thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Bye.