April 4, 2024 • 37 mins
Kelsey T. is finally making her “Happy Hour” debut with Joe and Serena, and she’s getting into it all. She shares the backstory of her role in the movie “Barbie,” her unique journey to getting on the show, and her relationship with her dad now.
Plus, we get her thoughts on the “Women Tell All,” the finale, and some interesting tea: Are there new Bachelor Nation couples emerging?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Betcher Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And we are here with Kelsey t Kelsey. Welcome to
Betchler Happy Hour. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm so excited. Yeah,
it's crazy, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You you had you had. You definitely had one of
the stronger connections with Joey, and we saw you a
lot on this season. So excited to talk to you.
We did see you were were more quiet at what
was it the woman? The women tell all, well, well,
we're gonna ask you. I mean, I don't blame you.
I probably would have sat there and been like, I'm
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not getting involved in this ship. But we'll talk about
that later on in the episode. Let's let's first talk
about how you got on the show, because we've heard
like you were like you did the blocking for Charity season.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, exactly, So I was basically Charity stand in. I
worked with the show for actually two years, so I
did a few other I did the mentel aw and
I also did AFR as well for them. So it's
been a couple of years for me with the show.
And while I was on Charity season, doing the blocking
for her on stage. I got approached from some of
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the producers and they were like, Hey, would you actually
want to come on the show, And I was so confused.
I was just getting like snacks from Crafty and.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Before you get into that, can you kind of explain
because I know a lot of people that are listening
to this may not really understand what blocking is and
what you do. Could you kind of explain that just
for our listeners.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, definitely, it can be a little confusing. But basically,
there's a first team and a second team. First team
is the cast, the main cast. Second team are the
people who stand in for the cast, So we do
all of their maybe movements, potential movements, if there is
potential lines that they need to hit or things that
need to be said, we do all of that for them,
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and then mostly lighting too. So they want to know
how these people are going to look on camera. They
want to know if this angle is the best, if
they're gonna be too far from the audience at this point.
They want to know all of those steps, and I
run through the steps for them so that when they
get on stage it's all clear. It's all taken care
of and they can have the least amount of problems
as possible. So that's my job. I do everything for
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them so that it makes everything just run seamlessly or
as seamlessly as possible. There's still going to be issues,
still going to be problems, but I do most of
it for them so that it's easy on everyone.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
This is for the live shows, not the actual This
is only for live shows.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay, only live shows. I've never been to the Mansion before,
never traveled with crewer casts or any of that. It's
literally on the lot, just at the studio. That's the
only place that I've been.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So basically before they film, for example, like charities, mental,
you would go stand in for charity, like sit in
the hot seat so they could figure out, like you know,
the camera height and the lighting and all of that exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So you want to just be as similar as possible
to them and maybe say things that maybe they would
say at this point because you've seen kind of the
footage and what's gonna what's gonna happen, So yeah, I
would sit in the hot seat. Joey also has, like
you know, a stand in. Don has a stand in,
and so we all like work together to make sure
that it runs as seemly as possible. We never know
what's gonna happen though they don't. There's no lines or anything,
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but we just try to improve and give it our
best based on the footage that we see. So that's
so cool.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So then you're getting you're getting snacks and a producer
walks up to you, and how's that conversation go?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I remember Verbatim. I went to like Crafty, I
got some snacks and I was getting a coffee is
at It already been a long day, and I remember
seeing this guy and I wasn't sure who he was,
but I was talking and we were having a great conversation.
And then one of the pas, which is a production assistant,
comes up to me and they go, do you know
who that is? And I was like, I have no idea,
but he seems really cool, nice and they were like,
that's you know, the head been in charge, like he's
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one of the big producers. And I was like, oh, well,
it seems awesome. So I was like that's great. He's
like but I think they like are trying to see
if they want you on the show, and I was like,
I don't know I'm just working, you know, I'm just
gonna go back do my job. I'm in and out.
And so yeah, I'm standing there and three producers approached
me and they go, would you actually like to be
on the show? And I was like, I I kind
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of slows up a bit because I would. I didn't.
It came out of nowhere, and I was just so confused,
and I was like are they serious? Like is this real?
So I was just like, uh sure, and they were like, well,
are you single? First? And I was like, oh, I'm
very single. That's when we can check that box. And
then yeah, we had a couple more conversations and eventually
I made it on the show, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Did you have any idea who the bachelor was going
to be at that time?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I did, so they kind of show the footage and
I knew at that point it was and that's why
I was also excited too, so I was like, Okay,
if it's gonna be him, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So okay.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Truly the most unique casting story that must exist in
this franchise other than like, I mean, Joe, you got
scouted in the Whole Foods, But like, it's just crazy
that you were like working, You're on set, you're doing
your job at the Bachelor studios, at Warner Brothers, and
then they're like, hey, so when you're done, you want
to go buy some gowns and come film next season.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's crazy yesterday. I think back every time and just
being back on the stage, I'm like, this is so surreal.
This can't be real, Like this cannot be real.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Like did Women Tell All feel like such a full
circle moment for you?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh? Definitely, it felt so full circle. I took a
moment when I got there just to kind of stand
in this space and just take it all in and say,
you know, I was on the other side of this,
like I know what it feels like to be on
the other side. I know what it feels like to
be crue, and now I'm on this side. I never
thought that it would happen this way or reality TV
was never in the cards for me. I would say,
it was not something that was on my mind, but
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if it was for love, I was open to it.
And just being at the Women Tell All and that
full SoCal moment of like I'm really here again and
it's different now, and that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, do you think or were you worried at all
because you're a day job, you're an actor?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Were you do you do you think like doing reality
TV hurts that at all?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So that was my biggest concern. Honestly, I went back
and forth for a while. I didn't have too much
time to decide, but I went back and forth for
a long time. I talked to a lot of people too,
a lot of people that I trust and consider mentors
in the business. And I was torn a little because
I was hopeful that I could find love, but also
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very nervous that it would affect my other love, which
is my career, And so I wasn't or where to
go with it. But at the end of the day,
I was like, I have to take a chance. I
trust myself, I know myself, and I think if this
is something that's going to bring me down in my career,
then I know I can figure it out. I'll work
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through it. I love this, I will do it for
the rest of my life, and wherever it takes me,
it's going to be great.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Were you worried at all about any criticism from like
the girls in the house or the public about like, oh,
she's an actress, like she's not here for the right reason.
So I feel like we have seen that in the past,
and your job is so integrated in your journey to
get on this show.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I was so nervous. I was like, guys are like,
she's fake, she's phony, She's just acting. I got comments
like that too. They were just like, listen, she's probably
acting right now. And I'm like, if I were that good,
I would have an oscar right now. So I'm not
want to be here. I would. So I was like
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very nervous about how like the public perception of me
just coming on and being very honest about who I
am and what I love to do. I was nervous
about that. But I think overall the perception, I feel
like people were like, no, she's she's she might be
an actress, but she's she still can find love, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
And I think it was different. I think it was
different before social media because now it's not only you know,
you could be an actor, but you could be a
social media influencer. And there's like that whole stigma of
like going on the show for Instagram followers or TikTok
or whatever the hell where Like before social media if
you went on reality TV and you were an actor,
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it was like guaranteed, like that is why you're there.
You're being faked exactly. So I do think it's definitely
changed a little.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah. I also think you came across very genuine and
you weren't someone that was like stirring the pod or
in the drama.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Like.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It never felt like, you.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Know, I got a good cut.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
We do have to ask you before we jump off
of acting and more so into the show. You were
in the Barbie movie. Please tell us every little detail
about it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, that's the craziest thing because technically it was a
background role. So when I got there, I didn't expect
to have like a trailer or be treated, you know,
a little bit more like cast. It was weird. I
just thought, you know, I'm gonna come do my job,
do background and leave. But no, they had a trailer
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for me, they had my name, and I was like, oh,
what what are we doing? Because you never know what
you're doing until you get on set. For the most part,
they're very hush hushed, very quite quiet. You just show
up and then they give you everything. So I didn't
know what really Oh yeah, because and especially with the
Barbie movie because it's such a big it's it's a
huge exactly, it's a huge production, and so they want
to keep everything pretty quiet. Even they have pseudo names
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and things like that, so you don't know half the
time what you're getting into until you pull up and
you're like, oh, oh, this is what we're doing today.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Does that scary?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Ember? It wasn't the beginning, but it's honestly like a muscle. Now,
I get like excited. I'm like, oh, I don't know
where we're going. Sometimes I'm hopping in this van or
going over here and people are taking me here. You
never know, and I've learned to love the adventure of it.
It's beautiful, it's amazing. It's spontaneous, and I love it.
It can't get a little crazy, but it's it's great.
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But the Barbering Movie was a very quick day. I
would say we spent maybe like twelve hours there, but
when we actually were on set, it was like forty
minutes if that. And they literally lined us up. We
were all Miss America. So I was Miss America. Miss Yeah,
I was Miss Jamaica, and so we were all like
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miss it was miss Universe. I believe it was Yeah,
miss Universes, so we were all different places and I
was missed Jamaica and they put me right in the
middle of the of the beautiful women that were there,
and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing.
They were like, just pose like a pageant girl. I'm like,
I've never been pageants are anything. I'm like, what do
I do? I'm doing awkward? But I was like, you
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know what we're gonna We're gonna have fun with it.
So we're all just posing, having a good time. The
ladies are are, you know, vibing out and yeah, they
just took pictures of us after they mind us up
and I didn't know where it was gonna go until
I saw it, and I was like, oh, I'm on
a billboard. Okay, good to know.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, Well, do you ever shoot scenes like that where
you're like, oh, this might not go anywhere, Like this
might not even like I know, like I can't compare
it to acting, but in reality, I know, we filmed
so much and you're like, I don't even know if
this is gonna see the light of day.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Absolutely, I filmed things and I still search for them now.
I'm like, I'm on YouTube. I'm like, where is it.
It has to it had to have come out, no nothing,
So I did it. I was there and we're the
only ones who know no proof.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But with the Barber movie, we got prooved.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, I've even had wholes like I've I've had a
role where I was a uh, like I had lines
and everything in one of the movies Made for Love
or the series Made for Love, and they cut the
whole scene. The whole scene. No, the whole thing I got.
Everybody said. I was like, yes, I have lines. Now like, look,
it's gonna be great. I got a co star role.
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We're all watch it just gives back and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You're like it was supposed to be right there.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I swear. I was like, you know what, that's the
last time I give information before it comes out. Next time,
I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it first. So yeah, it
happens though, but it just never makes it seem to
never make it, and you just you move on because
like you still love what. I still love what I
do you know, and I still got the experience.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Do you ever? Uh, we have to get into the show,
but like, do you do any do you ever do
like or any like improv or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So what's funny is I actually got into ground Wings
right before the pandemic. Oh yeah, and maybe two months
after the pandemic happened, and they were like, hey, guys,
so sorry, we got to shut down and we're not
going to be able to have class. And I was like,
so hurt.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So famous Improv Improv Studio in.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Lay Second City.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, oh it was. It hurt. And I just never
got back to it because they were doing online classes
for the longest and I was like, now I'm not
doing online. I need to be a person. You know,
you got to feel this craft. So cool?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
All right, let's jump to the show before I get fired.
We we we. So you get out of the limo,
you see Joey just briefly, like like, what was that
experience like? And do you feel a connection immediately?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I was very nervous in the limo, like just I
was at one point like I could feel my hands
like kind of shaking. I was like, I don't know
why I'm so nervous. Like I'm used to cameras, I'm
used to lights, I'm used to all this stuff. But
I was so nervous. I was like, I'm not used
to being like myself per se on camera, and so
I was like, I don't know what to do. I
don't know what to say. And I was like, all right,
just relax, just relax. So I get out of the
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limo and I see him and immediately, like the eye
contact was there, which I love, and this calmness came
over me. He's a very like calming person. He's very
like he can he can ground you. And so I
felt like there was a connection there because if I
was a nervous getting out of the limo and then
I could feel this calm like just talking to him,
I was like, I think it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So yeah, that's important. And then we have were your
thoughts on on the drama that went down?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, because you would have later went on one date
in the season in Montreal, so you went through a
lot of the drama on the group dates the house.
How are your feelings about all of that, because you
really know where to be found when there was drama.
But I'm sure you had an opinion on it.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I did when I when it first started happening, I
was just I wasn't very present for those moments. There
were so many different moments and so many different people
and so many different things happening all at once that
if you're not in that room or with that person,
you just miss it. And so I missed so much
in the beginning that when it all started happening, I
remember Maria being across from me and Sidneys next to me,
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and that's when the moment happened where they got into it,
and I was so confused. I was like, what is
happening right now?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
What did I miss earlier tonight?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Good guys, Yeah, what happened. But eventually, when I started
getting the information and all of that, I just thought, honestly,
I just thought it could have easily been solved with
just a simple conversation, and so I decided it wasn't
really something that I needed to talk about and jump in.
I think the ladies needed to handle it themselves and
come to some kind of conclusion or you know, agreement
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between themselves. But I didn't think I needed to be
involved in it at all.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And Medina is thirty one, correct, And how old are you, Kelsey?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Now? I'm thirty two, but I was thirty one on
the show. So I would hear things and be like,
maybe I should say something man speak and be like, hey,
I'm thirty one as well. But honestly, I just I
just didn't think it would matter. I didn't think me
jumping into the conversation at that time would change any
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of their minds. It did not matter. So I said,
you know, I'm just gonna relax. I think no one
learned that I was actually thirty one until maybe like
week two or something like that, and I remember sitting
on the couch and they were like, Kelsey, I thought
you were like in your twenties this whole time. I
was like, no, I'm a thirty one. Yeah, I'm like, no,
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the's no guys.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You're so you're you're one on one day with Joey.
I remember being like that was that was a cool one.
That was the circuit. What do I say, Syrina circus,
circus circus.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
That's what I always That's honestly what I always thought.
It was, like literally the words circus that ol A
O L E with like.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Over the.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But yeah, that thing was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You want to talk about that, Yeah, that day was
so much fun. Honestly, as soon as we got there,
I got excited because I love to do activities. I
love to be, you know, just playful. I love to
to really get out there and try new things, and
so this was something just way out of the box
I didn't even think we were going to do. And
so when we started to just have fun with it
and we got flown in the air. At one point,
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you know, he was on the big wheel that you
saw like in the pictures. He was rolling with that
and then we did a little routine. I felt I
felt great. It was it was so much.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Fun going into that date. Where did you feel like
your connection was out with Jewey?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
At that time, I knew we were behind. I could
tell that, like he was building connections very fast with
these other women, and even on the group dates, we
did have many moments where I did feel reassured and
I did feel like, okay, like we're so good. But
I didn't know if it was as strong as the
other ladies because he was given out you know, other
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one on ones and having other moments with them, and
so I was just I wasn't sure, and it was
so late in the season and I was like, I
don't know it was too little, too late. I don't know,
but I'm gonna make the most of it. I'm going
to try and build off of what we have.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Did you think there was a chance that you could
potentially be going home going into that date, because I know,
like mid season, on a lot of seasons, there's like
someone gets a one on one day and then gets
like basically like that, now this isn't this isn't Workingty.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Got roses and I was like, listen, somebody's gonna go
home on a one on one late in the game.
It's looking like me, Well, we're gonna have a good time.
We're gonna have one if it goes great, good.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
If not, you know, at least you had a fighting chance.
I mean honest, I'd rather go home on a loose
At least you go home on a one on one.
You're like, oh, if you don't like me at this point,
that's fair. I like, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Exactly, because we had so many other moments and like
from the wedding and from each date we were building
it was just felt a little slower than a lot
of other people. But if I got to that point
and we still couldn't make a connection and it's just
late in the game, then it's not. We're not each
other's person and that's perfectly fine. So I went into
it just saying, you know what, I'm gonna have a
great time. I hope he is ready to have a
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great time, and we can see each other for who
we are and if it doesn't work, it doesn't work,
and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, I think that's a great way to look at it.
On that one on one date, we see you open
up to Joey about your dynamic with your family, specifically
your relationship with your dad. Were you nervous going into
that conversation? Have you opened up to people you're dating
about that before?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I was very nervous, And honestly, he's only the second
person that I've talked to about that. He's literally want
to do. The first person that I talked to about it.
I was engaged to him. So to have this conversation
come up this early in a relationship and at all
was a lot for me. It's I was very nervous
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going into it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And how do you feel, I guess how do you
feel Joey received that?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I think he received it very well. I think he
is an amazing listener, And I think he has a
great way of understanding people, even if he doesn't know
exactly what you're going through, he has a great way
of understanding, like, Hey, this is something that you've been
dealing with and I can see how it affects you
and your relationships. And he was very open to that fact,
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and I could tell that I could trust him with,
you know, with who I am. And I appreciate that
from him.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
And how is how is your relationship today with your father?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It's really good? Good I am. I am so like shocked, honestly,
because we've been working on it for a while, but
it's never gotten to a point where we feel like
we have an actual relationship, you know. You know, it's
different when you talk to someone or you call someone
when you have an actual relationship with him or it's
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it's building. That's where we're at now, and I didn't
know if we could get there. So it's there, though.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What was it like for him to did he watch
the conversation that you had with Joey? What was that like?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So he actually watched it with me? I asked if
he could come over and just watch it with me
because I wanted to see how he felt, and I
also wanted to to be with him in that moment
if he had questions or need an answer or needed
anything from me, or if he had anything to say
to me. And so we watched it. He was a
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little emotional, but overall he was like, Hey, again, I
feel like we've grown from that place and I hope
that we can get better and continue to get better.
And all you did was share your truth and that's
that's all you can do. So he's been very supportive, Yeah,
and very honest with with his with how our relationship
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has been in the past and how he wanted to
go in the future.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Well that's great. It's like, you know, it's like you
hope to hear that that would be the outcome, but like,
very seldomly would it. And I think that's that's wonderful
that it's it's gone in that direction.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, and we saw that you guys were at the finale,
you and your dad together.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah. I was like, I was shocked because I wasn't
sure if he was going to come at all. He
doesn't do like TV, stays very private. He's not even
on social media, so I don't know if he's going
to actually come. And then he came and he actually
took a shot too, which I was very.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Like, that must have That must have been meaningful for
you though, to have him come and be there and
kind of support the journey that he went on.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It was. It's it's great to know that even though
we may disagree on a lot of things, and he
may see my life he saw it going somewhere totally
different than where it is now, but he can still
be there and support me no matter what, even if
his vision of what his child was supposed to be
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and do isn't is never going to happen, and vice versa.
Like I think that my dad's a he's a human,
he makes mistakes and I'm gonna love him regardless. So
for us to be there in that moment and for
him to support me through it no matter what, I
love him for that.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Are you comfortable going into what that vision was that
he had for you?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah? So the vision where the vision was that I
would focus on the Bible and the religion and basically,
how do I say it? It's so hard because this
dynamic of a like religion is so different from other
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dynamics that you have to like kind of start at
the bottom to like explain it. But the gist of
it is you you you move up in the Kingdom Hall.
So the Kingdom Hall is basically the church, and you
move up and you have different titles, and you get
to a position where all you do is study the
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Bible and you help others study the Bible. That's the goal.
So he wanted me to continue to do that. Get
baptized first, become a publisher second, and then hopefully move
up from there. And I wasn't able to meet any
of those steps. I made up a lot of steps,
but I wasn't able to get to the end of
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where he wanted me to be. Yeah, I don't know
if that makes sense. It's little.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I mean, it's it gets it gets confuted. When I
I went I went to Catholic schools, and when I
was in eighth grade, I was never an altar boy,
but I was an alder boy and we went in
the back and we got drunk off the wine.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
This is not the same as what she's saying. This
doesn't relate, This.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Doesn't That was my experience and that's why I do
That's why I knew that, like like me and the
church were going to be a thing in the future,
but it's.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
That was my experience.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Okay, so thank you for sharing that, Joe.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I'm sure you guys.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Are you guys? Honestly, you're both welcome, So let's let's
talk about So then going back to the season, you
end up not you last, You last a long time,
but then you end up not end up not getting
a rose? Did you Did you see that coming? Were
you expecting that?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
So on that last date, I saw it coming. I
saw his connections with a couple of the other women,
and I felt like, we don't have that.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The last date being the Lumberjacks date and and Jasper
Lumberjack date, I could see that he was definitely developing
a lot of other relationships much faster.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Their banter, the way they reacted to each other. It
was just like you can see when people have chemistry.
You can see when and you can see when it's
a strong connection. And I saw it and it hurt. Honestly,
it hurt a lot seeing it in the moment, but
it was also very it was enlightening because I was like, Okay,
I think I think this is probably the end for us.
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We had that one last conversation right before he didn't
give out the rose at the group date, and I
think a part of me still wanted to give it
my all because that's the type of person that I am,
and so I was like, I'm going to reassure you
and say, you know, hey, I'm still in this. And
he couldn't really make a decision that night on who
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to give a rose to. So I think that's when
I knew. I say, yeah, I think it's it's over.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That's tough too, because it's like it's different than going
home early, you know, because it's like you do you
did form somewhat of a relationship, you do have a connection,
but then you kind of look around it like yeah,
but it's not as strong as everyone else, and then
you're comparing that. That's tough. But and yeah, I don't
have anything positive to say after that because you went home.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So I will add, I will add, I mean just.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
For our listeners, though she's laughing, okay, because I know
people have been that's so rude.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'm joking.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
It's to puck a joke, you know, it is what
it is, and I'm sure, like going home is never easy,
but it must have.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Not being totally blindsided probably helped you kind of get
up there and be like, Okay, I'm gonna embrace myself
a little bit for what might be to come.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I was. I was definitely bracing myself. Even the night
before a few of the ladies were there for me
because they knew I was just in shambles. I was not.
I felt it coming. I knew it was coming, and
I was trying to enjoy myself, trying to have a
good time, but also, you know, it's still it's still
gonna hurt, still not going to feel like, yeah, it's
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not gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You're anticipating a bad moment. You're like, I know that
a bad moment is coming for me, and.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I'm just waiting for it, and I'm like, what do
I do? And so it was. It was a lot,
but I tried to just have as much, you know,
have as much as a good time with the ladies
as I could. And then when we did get our
moment to talk again, I just wanted to make sure
that he knew that I was thankful for this opportunity.
I don't I barely remember what I said. I think
(29:26):
I just thanked him a lot. But I think there
was a sense of peace that came over me, honestly,
because I knew his person was there and it wasn't me,
and I was okay with that because this journey has
been so beautiful overall, and I met some amazing women
and I've I know now that I am open to
finding love again, which I wasn't sure if I would
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get there, but I did, and it's been beautiful.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What was it like seeing Joey again then at the
Women Tell All?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It was it was a little surreal because there's so
much time that passes and when you leave, you don't
get really closure or anything. So then he just pops
up on the couch and you're just there again and
you're like, you know. But I think after seeing him
once he sat down and everything, I was like, oh,
it just felt like it felt normal. It felt like
(30:19):
we can move past this and we can like I
can celebrate, you know, the love that you found, and
I'm I feel like he wishes me well too, So
it was just a it was a good moment.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Let's uh, let's cut to the finale because there we
we saw there was like a million different alum there
and there's a lot of rumors going around. So what
what do you got for us? Because well, we know
you guys all went out like.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, we saw the after Charities boys, Jolley's Girls.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Can we can we get Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You know, I had a great time at the after
party out. Oh did you who.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Are you talking to? Is there any any anyone in particular?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
There was no one in particular that I was talking to.
But I am open to, you know, continuing to get
to know a lot of people that I've met, and
and we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Like who, Well, give me a name. What am I
supposed to do with that? I give me a name?
Hot Sean was hot Sean?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
There was hot Sean there?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I think, I swear, like someone posted a TikTok with
all the boys trying to like shuffle or something, and
I think I saw it.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Okay, maybe I think maybe he was there. I'm not sure.
Actually maybe I don't know him by hot Sewan either.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I'm like, it's yeah Sean, blonde hair, Okay, looks like
a Kendall according to him.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Okay, give us. I'm learning a lot of people's names
and a lot of like because I didn't watch the
show either like that. My mom watched it a long
time ago, and so when people pop up, I'm like,
I know your face, but honestly, I can't remember your name,
so it's it's sometimes hard for me to get it down.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Okay, other question, we're like setups happening though, Like we'll
let you off the hook here with this wide was
there like some girls and some guys chatting. Do you
think we might see some new bachelor couples anytime soon?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
You know, there was definitely some chattering. There was definitely
some connections being made. And I'll say, you know, there's
some people who are who are are are talking pursuing? Yeah,
they're pursuing. I mean, you know, my girl, Autumn, she's
(32:56):
out here and she's live in her best life. Oh.
I think she definitely has a contender, and we'll see
where it goes. I'm happy for her, honestly. I think
she's just in a good space and she's she's excited.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
She's a cutie and we really liked her on the season.
So I love to hear that.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Nice, All right, Well you didn't answer my question. You
scatered her around it the whole time. But that's Okay,
we're gonna before we let you go, we're gonna play
rapid fire questions. First thing that comes to your mind.
Just answer, Serena, you want.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
To do it? Sure?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I got you?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
All right?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
All easy, fun questions, So let's kick it off. Coffee
or tea, tea early bird or night owl night owl?
Chill night in or fun night out?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Night out.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Adventurous or relaxing.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Vacation adventurous.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Where is your dream vacation spot.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's kind of hard because I don't really I just
want to travel everywhere and I want to see everything,
even if it's like you know, going into a city
where there's like just a town and it's local, or
going to like the big tourist spots. I love to
do it all. So I don't really have like a
specific place, but I just love to meet people wherever
I go and get englfed in the culture.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Favorite type of food or cuisine, doush full face or
natural makeup full face. Favorite place you traveled to this season.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
This season Montreal, I felt connected to that place y
Montreal was it was just like I got there and
I was like, wait, why do I feel like I'm
supposed to be here.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I was like, Oh, I still need to go. I
haven't been. I have to go.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I know we're I think going to go. We'll go
for this summer when it's a little warmer. Favorite song
or artist at the moment.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Hm at the moment. There's this song in my head
that I can't stop playing. It's called Waterfall by Uh.
I think it's disillusion or distribute Distribution by in Reya,
but it's called Waterfall. That's all I know. Yeah, I'm
never good with like people are titles. But it's a
good song.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's not the suck your balls like your sack song?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That's a different genre the whole.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Oh okay, favorite movie or genre? Uh? Favorite? Uh? Favorite
movie is remember the Titans? Genre? I would say, uh, comedy.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
What is a dating deal breaker for you?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Uh? People m O so many. I think people who
are just just uh, who talk about themselves the whole
time and don't ask you any questions because it shows
that you're not like interested in me.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Just yeah, that's a red flag. Who from Bachelor Nation
would you let wing man know?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Oh? You know what, Rachel's a good wing man. She
could be a wing woman. Rachel's a good.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Wing woman Rachel from your season.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Rachel for my season. Yes, yeah, she'd be great. She's
got my back.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And then to end it off, what is next for Kelsey?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
What's next for me? Well, I'm getting back to acting.
Things are still a little slow, but honestly, I'm just
happy to get back to doing what I love. And
even just the audition the austition process is always fun
to me too because it's just keeps that muscle going.
So that's what's next. I'm also in real estate too.
Since the strike happened, I jumped into real estate and
(36:58):
it's been exciting. It's been crazy, but it's been very exciting.
So seeing where that goes. But I think everything's aligning
for me and I'm doing what I love and I'm
not accepting anything else.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
So amazing for you.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Well, Kelsey, thank you so much for taking the time
and coming on to our show.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Thanks for having me. This is so much fun of course.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Of course, and to our listeners, thank you guys for
tuning in like always and make sure you subscribe if
you're not.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
We have more exclusive interviews coming your way, so don't
forget to listen. Joe and I will be here every
single week for you, so thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Bye.
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Betcher Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And we are here with Kelsey t Kelsey. Welcome to
Betchler Happy Hour. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm so excited. Yeah,
it's crazy, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You you had you had. You definitely had one of
the stronger connections with Joey, and we saw you a
lot on this season. So excited to talk to you.
We did see you were were more quiet at what
was it the woman? The women tell all, well, well,
we're gonna ask you. I mean, I don't blame you.
I probably would have sat there and been like, I'm
(00:39):
not getting involved in this ship. But we'll talk about
that later on in the episode. Let's let's first talk
about how you got on the show, because we've heard
like you were like you did the blocking for Charity season.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, exactly, So I was basically Charity stand in. I
worked with the show for actually two years, so I
did a few other I did the mentel aw and
I also did AFR as well for them. So it's
been a couple of years for me with the show.
And while I was on Charity season, doing the blocking
for her on stage. I got approached from some of
(01:20):
the producers and they were like, Hey, would you actually
want to come on the show, And I was so confused.
I was just getting like snacks from Crafty and.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Before you get into that, can you kind of explain
because I know a lot of people that are listening
to this may not really understand what blocking is and
what you do. Could you kind of explain that just
for our listeners.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, definitely, it can be a little confusing. But basically,
there's a first team and a second team. First team
is the cast, the main cast. Second team are the
people who stand in for the cast, So we do
all of their maybe movements, potential movements, if there is
potential lines that they need to hit or things that
need to be said, we do all of that for them,
(02:04):
and then mostly lighting too. So they want to know
how these people are going to look on camera. They
want to know if this angle is the best, if
they're gonna be too far from the audience at this point.
They want to know all of those steps, and I
run through the steps for them so that when they
get on stage it's all clear. It's all taken care
of and they can have the least amount of problems
as possible. So that's my job. I do everything for
(02:27):
them so that it makes everything just run seamlessly or
as seamlessly as possible. There's still going to be issues,
still going to be problems, but I do most of
it for them so that it's easy on everyone.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
This is for the live shows, not the actual This
is only for live shows.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay, only live shows. I've never been to the Mansion before,
never traveled with crewer casts or any of that. It's
literally on the lot, just at the studio. That's the
only place that I've been.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So basically before they film, for example, like charities, mental,
you would go stand in for charity, like sit in
the hot seat so they could figure out, like you know,
the camera height and the lighting and all of that exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So you want to just be as similar as possible
to them and maybe say things that maybe they would
say at this point because you've seen kind of the
footage and what's gonna what's gonna happen, So yeah, I
would sit in the hot seat. Joey also has, like
you know, a stand in. Don has a stand in,
and so we all like work together to make sure
that it runs as seemly as possible. We never know
what's gonna happen though they don't. There's no lines or anything,
(03:29):
but we just try to improve and give it our
best based on the footage that we see. So that's
so cool.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So then you're getting you're getting snacks and a producer
walks up to you, and how's that conversation go?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I remember Verbatim. I went to like Crafty, I
got some snacks and I was getting a coffee is
at It already been a long day, and I remember
seeing this guy and I wasn't sure who he was,
but I was talking and we were having a great conversation.
And then one of the pas, which is a production assistant,
comes up to me and they go, do you know
who that is? And I was like, I have no idea,
but he seems really cool, nice and they were like,
that's you know, the head been in charge, like he's
(04:03):
one of the big producers. And I was like, oh, well,
it seems awesome. So I was like that's great. He's
like but I think they like are trying to see
if they want you on the show, and I was like,
I don't know I'm just working, you know, I'm just
gonna go back do my job. I'm in and out.
And so yeah, I'm standing there and three producers approached
me and they go, would you actually like to be
on the show? And I was like, I I kind
(04:27):
of slows up a bit because I would. I didn't.
It came out of nowhere, and I was just so confused,
and I was like are they serious? Like is this real?
So I was just like, uh sure, and they were like, well,
are you single? First? And I was like, oh, I'm
very single. That's when we can check that box. And
then yeah, we had a couple more conversations and eventually
I made it on the show, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Did you have any idea who the bachelor was going
to be at that time?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I did, so they kind of show the footage and
I knew at that point it was and that's why
I was also excited too, so I was like, Okay,
if it's gonna be him, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So okay.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Truly the most unique casting story that must exist in
this franchise other than like, I mean, Joe, you got
scouted in the Whole Foods, But like, it's just crazy
that you were like working, You're on set, you're doing
your job at the Bachelor studios, at Warner Brothers, and
then they're like, hey, so when you're done, you want
to go buy some gowns and come film next season.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's crazy yesterday. I think back every time and just
being back on the stage, I'm like, this is so surreal.
This can't be real, Like this cannot be real.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Like did Women Tell All feel like such a full
circle moment for you?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh? Definitely, it felt so full circle. I took a
moment when I got there just to kind of stand
in this space and just take it all in and say,
you know, I was on the other side of this,
like I know what it feels like to be on
the other side. I know what it feels like to
be crue, and now I'm on this side. I never
thought that it would happen this way or reality TV
was never in the cards for me. I would say,
it was not something that was on my mind, but
(06:06):
if it was for love, I was open to it.
And just being at the Women Tell All and that
full SoCal moment of like I'm really here again and
it's different now, and that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, do you think or were you worried at all
because you're a day job, you're an actor?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Were you do you do you think like doing reality
TV hurts that at all?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So that was my biggest concern. Honestly, I went back
and forth for a while. I didn't have too much
time to decide, but I went back and forth for
a long time. I talked to a lot of people too,
a lot of people that I trust and consider mentors
in the business. And I was torn a little because
I was hopeful that I could find love, but also
(06:53):
very nervous that it would affect my other love, which
is my career, And so I wasn't or where to
go with it. But at the end of the day,
I was like, I have to take a chance. I
trust myself, I know myself, and I think if this
is something that's going to bring me down in my career,
then I know I can figure it out. I'll work
(07:14):
through it. I love this, I will do it for
the rest of my life, and wherever it takes me,
it's going to be great.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Were you worried at all about any criticism from like
the girls in the house or the public about like, oh,
she's an actress, like she's not here for the right reason.
So I feel like we have seen that in the past,
and your job is so integrated in your journey to
get on this show.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I was so nervous. I was like, guys are like,
she's fake, she's phony, She's just acting. I got comments
like that too. They were just like, listen, she's probably
acting right now. And I'm like, if I were that good,
I would have an oscar right now. So I'm not
want to be here. I would. So I was like
(08:02):
very nervous about how like the public perception of me
just coming on and being very honest about who I
am and what I love to do. I was nervous
about that. But I think overall the perception, I feel
like people were like, no, she's she's she might be
an actress, but she's she still can find love, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
And I think it was different. I think it was
different before social media because now it's not only you know,
you could be an actor, but you could be a
social media influencer. And there's like that whole stigma of
like going on the show for Instagram followers or TikTok
or whatever the hell where Like before social media if
you went on reality TV and you were an actor,
(08:44):
it was like guaranteed, like that is why you're there.
You're being faked exactly. So I do think it's definitely
changed a little.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah. I also think you came across very genuine and
you weren't someone that was like stirring the pod or
in the drama.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Like.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It never felt like, you.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Know, I got a good cut.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
We do have to ask you before we jump off
of acting and more so into the show. You were
in the Barbie movie. Please tell us every little detail
about it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, that's the craziest thing because technically it was a
background role. So when I got there, I didn't expect
to have like a trailer or be treated, you know,
a little bit more like cast. It was weird. I
just thought, you know, I'm gonna come do my job,
do background and leave. But no, they had a trailer
(09:39):
for me, they had my name, and I was like, oh,
what what are we doing? Because you never know what
you're doing until you get on set. For the most part,
they're very hush hushed, very quite quiet. You just show
up and then they give you everything. So I didn't
know what really Oh yeah, because and especially with the
Barbie movie because it's such a big it's it's a
huge exactly, it's a huge production, and so they want
to keep everything pretty quiet. Even they have pseudo names
(10:00):
and things like that, so you don't know half the
time what you're getting into until you pull up and
you're like, oh, oh, this is what we're doing today.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Does that scary?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Ember? It wasn't the beginning, but it's honestly like a muscle. Now,
I get like excited. I'm like, oh, I don't know
where we're going. Sometimes I'm hopping in this van or
going over here and people are taking me here. You
never know, and I've learned to love the adventure of it.
It's beautiful, it's amazing. It's spontaneous, and I love it.
It can't get a little crazy, but it's it's great.
(10:28):
But the Barbering Movie was a very quick day. I
would say we spent maybe like twelve hours there, but
when we actually were on set, it was like forty
minutes if that. And they literally lined us up. We
were all Miss America. So I was Miss America. Miss Yeah,
I was Miss Jamaica, and so we were all like
(10:50):
miss it was miss Universe. I believe it was Yeah,
miss Universes, so we were all different places and I
was missed Jamaica and they put me right in the
middle of the of the beautiful women that were there,
and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing.
They were like, just pose like a pageant girl. I'm like,
I've never been pageants are anything. I'm like, what do
I do? I'm doing awkward? But I was like, you
(11:11):
know what we're gonna We're gonna have fun with it.
So we're all just posing, having a good time. The
ladies are are, you know, vibing out and yeah, they
just took pictures of us after they mind us up
and I didn't know where it was gonna go until
I saw it, and I was like, oh, I'm on
a billboard. Okay, good to know.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, Well, do you ever shoot scenes like that where
you're like, oh, this might not go anywhere, Like this
might not even like I know, like I can't compare
it to acting, but in reality, I know, we filmed
so much and you're like, I don't even know if
this is gonna see the light of day.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Absolutely, I filmed things and I still search for them now.
I'm like, I'm on YouTube. I'm like, where is it.
It has to it had to have come out, no nothing,
So I did it. I was there and we're the
only ones who know no proof.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But with the Barber movie, we got prooved.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, I've even had wholes like I've I've had a
role where I was a uh, like I had lines
and everything in one of the movies Made for Love
or the series Made for Love, and they cut the
whole scene. The whole scene. No, the whole thing I got.
Everybody said. I was like, yes, I have lines. Now like, look,
it's gonna be great. I got a co star role.
(12:20):
We're all watch it just gives back and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You're like it was supposed to be right there.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I swear. I was like, you know what, that's the
last time I give information before it comes out. Next time,
I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it first. So yeah, it
happens though, but it just never makes it seem to
never make it, and you just you move on because
like you still love what. I still love what I
do you know, and I still got the experience.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Do you ever? Uh, we have to get into the show,
but like, do you do any do you ever do
like or any like improv or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So what's funny is I actually got into ground Wings
right before the pandemic. Oh yeah, and maybe two months
after the pandemic happened, and they were like, hey, guys,
so sorry, we got to shut down and we're not
going to be able to have class. And I was like,
so hurt.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So famous Improv Improv Studio in.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Lay Second City.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, oh it was. It hurt. And I just never
got back to it because they were doing online classes
for the longest and I was like, now I'm not
doing online. I need to be a person. You know,
you got to feel this craft. So cool?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
All right, let's jump to the show before I get fired.
We we we. So you get out of the limo,
you see Joey just briefly, like like, what was that
experience like? And do you feel a connection immediately?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I was very nervous in the limo, like just I
was at one point like I could feel my hands
like kind of shaking. I was like, I don't know
why I'm so nervous. Like I'm used to cameras, I'm
used to lights, I'm used to all this stuff. But
I was so nervous. I was like, I'm not used
to being like myself per se on camera, and so
I was like, I don't know what to do. I
don't know what to say. And I was like, all right,
just relax, just relax. So I get out of the
(14:22):
limo and I see him and immediately, like the eye
contact was there, which I love, and this calmness came
over me. He's a very like calming person. He's very
like he can he can ground you. And so I
felt like there was a connection there because if I
was a nervous getting out of the limo and then
I could feel this calm like just talking to him,
I was like, I think it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So yeah, that's important. And then we have were your
thoughts on on the drama that went down?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, because you would have later went on one date
in the season in Montreal, so you went through a
lot of the drama on the group dates the house.
How are your feelings about all of that, because you
really know where to be found when there was drama.
But I'm sure you had an opinion on it.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I did when I when it first started happening, I
was just I wasn't very present for those moments. There
were so many different moments and so many different people
and so many different things happening all at once that
if you're not in that room or with that person,
you just miss it. And so I missed so much
in the beginning that when it all started happening, I
remember Maria being across from me and Sidneys next to me,
(15:33):
and that's when the moment happened where they got into it,
and I was so confused. I was like, what is
happening right now?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
What did I miss earlier tonight?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Good guys, Yeah, what happened. But eventually, when I started
getting the information and all of that, I just thought, honestly,
I just thought it could have easily been solved with
just a simple conversation, and so I decided it wasn't
really something that I needed to talk about and jump in.
I think the ladies needed to handle it themselves and
come to some kind of conclusion or you know, agreement
(16:02):
between themselves. But I didn't think I needed to be
involved in it at all.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And Medina is thirty one, correct, And how old are you, Kelsey?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Now? I'm thirty two, but I was thirty one on
the show. So I would hear things and be like,
maybe I should say something man speak and be like, hey,
I'm thirty one as well. But honestly, I just I
just didn't think it would matter. I didn't think me
jumping into the conversation at that time would change any
(16:32):
of their minds. It did not matter. So I said,
you know, I'm just gonna relax. I think no one
learned that I was actually thirty one until maybe like
week two or something like that, and I remember sitting
on the couch and they were like, Kelsey, I thought
you were like in your twenties this whole time. I
was like, no, I'm a thirty one. Yeah, I'm like, no,
(16:57):
the's no guys.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You're so you're you're one on one day with Joey.
I remember being like that was that was a cool one.
That was the circuit. What do I say, Syrina circus,
circus circus.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
That's what I always That's honestly what I always thought.
It was, like literally the words circus that ol A
O L E with like.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Over the.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But yeah, that thing was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You want to talk about that, Yeah, that day was
so much fun. Honestly, as soon as we got there,
I got excited because I love to do activities. I
love to be, you know, just playful. I love to
to really get out there and try new things, and
so this was something just way out of the box
I didn't even think we were going to do. And
so when we started to just have fun with it
and we got flown in the air. At one point,
(17:50):
you know, he was on the big wheel that you
saw like in the pictures. He was rolling with that
and then we did a little routine. I felt I
felt great. It was it was so much.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Fun going into that date. Where did you feel like
your connection was out with Jewey?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
At that time, I knew we were behind. I could
tell that, like he was building connections very fast with
these other women, and even on the group dates, we
did have many moments where I did feel reassured and
I did feel like, okay, like we're so good. But
I didn't know if it was as strong as the
other ladies because he was given out you know, other
(18:29):
one on ones and having other moments with them, and
so I was just I wasn't sure, and it was
so late in the season and I was like, I
don't know it was too little, too late. I don't know,
but I'm gonna make the most of it. I'm going
to try and build off of what we have.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Did you think there was a chance that you could
potentially be going home going into that date, because I know,
like mid season, on a lot of seasons, there's like
someone gets a one on one day and then gets
like basically like that, now this isn't this isn't Workingty.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Got roses and I was like, listen, somebody's gonna go
home on a one on one late in the game.
It's looking like me, Well, we're gonna have a good time.
We're gonna have one if it goes great, good.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
If not, you know, at least you had a fighting chance.
I mean honest, I'd rather go home on a loose
At least you go home on a one on one.
You're like, oh, if you don't like me at this point,
that's fair. I like, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Exactly, because we had so many other moments and like
from the wedding and from each date we were building
it was just felt a little slower than a lot
of other people. But if I got to that point
and we still couldn't make a connection and it's just
late in the game, then it's not. We're not each
other's person and that's perfectly fine. So I went into
it just saying, you know what, I'm gonna have a
great time. I hope he is ready to have a
(19:49):
great time, and we can see each other for who
we are and if it doesn't work, it doesn't work,
and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, I think that's a great way to look at it.
On that one on one date, we see you open
up to Joey about your dynamic with your family, specifically
your relationship with your dad. Were you nervous going into
that conversation? Have you opened up to people you're dating
about that before?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I was very nervous, And honestly, he's only the second
person that I've talked to about that. He's literally want
to do. The first person that I talked to about it.
I was engaged to him. So to have this conversation
come up this early in a relationship and at all
was a lot for me. It's I was very nervous
(20:34):
going into it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And how do you feel, I guess how do you
feel Joey received that?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I think he received it very well. I think he
is an amazing listener, And I think he has a
great way of understanding people, even if he doesn't know
exactly what you're going through, he has a great way
of understanding, like, Hey, this is something that you've been
dealing with and I can see how it affects you
and your relationships. And he was very open to that fact,
(21:02):
and I could tell that I could trust him with,
you know, with who I am. And I appreciate that
from him.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
And how is how is your relationship today with your father?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It's really good? Good I am. I am so like shocked, honestly,
because we've been working on it for a while, but
it's never gotten to a point where we feel like
we have an actual relationship, you know. You know, it's
different when you talk to someone or you call someone
when you have an actual relationship with him or it's
(21:37):
it's building. That's where we're at now, and I didn't
know if we could get there. So it's there, though.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What was it like for him to did he watch
the conversation that you had with Joey? What was that like?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So he actually watched it with me? I asked if
he could come over and just watch it with me
because I wanted to see how he felt, and I
also wanted to to be with him in that moment
if he had questions or need an answer or needed
anything from me, or if he had anything to say
to me. And so we watched it. He was a
(22:11):
little emotional, but overall he was like, Hey, again, I
feel like we've grown from that place and I hope
that we can get better and continue to get better.
And all you did was share your truth and that's
that's all you can do. So he's been very supportive, Yeah,
and very honest with with his with how our relationship
(22:36):
has been in the past and how he wanted to
go in the future.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Well that's great. It's like, you know, it's like you
hope to hear that that would be the outcome, but like,
very seldomly would it. And I think that's that's wonderful
that it's it's gone in that direction.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, and we saw that you guys were at the finale,
you and your dad together.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah. I was like, I was shocked because I wasn't
sure if he was going to come at all. He
doesn't do like TV, stays very private. He's not even
on social media, so I don't know if he's going
to actually come. And then he came and he actually
took a shot too, which I was very.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Like, that must have That must have been meaningful for
you though, to have him come and be there and
kind of support the journey that he went on.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It was. It's it's great to know that even though
we may disagree on a lot of things, and he
may see my life he saw it going somewhere totally
different than where it is now, but he can still
be there and support me no matter what, even if
his vision of what his child was supposed to be
(23:50):
and do isn't is never going to happen, and vice versa.
Like I think that my dad's a he's a human,
he makes mistakes and I'm gonna love him regardless. So
for us to be there in that moment and for
him to support me through it no matter what, I
love him for that.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Are you comfortable going into what that vision was that
he had for you?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah? So the vision where the vision was that I
would focus on the Bible and the religion and basically,
how do I say it? It's so hard because this
dynamic of a like religion is so different from other
(24:38):
dynamics that you have to like kind of start at
the bottom to like explain it. But the gist of
it is you you you move up in the Kingdom Hall.
So the Kingdom Hall is basically the church, and you
move up and you have different titles, and you get
to a position where all you do is study the
(25:00):
Bible and you help others study the Bible. That's the goal.
So he wanted me to continue to do that. Get
baptized first, become a publisher second, and then hopefully move
up from there. And I wasn't able to meet any
of those steps. I made up a lot of steps,
but I wasn't able to get to the end of
(25:22):
where he wanted me to be. Yeah, I don't know
if that makes sense. It's little.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I mean, it's it gets it gets confuted. When I
I went I went to Catholic schools, and when I
was in eighth grade, I was never an altar boy,
but I was an alder boy and we went in
the back and we got drunk off the wine.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
This is not the same as what she's saying. This
doesn't relate, This.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Doesn't That was my experience and that's why I do
That's why I knew that, like like me and the
church were going to be a thing in the future,
but it's.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
That was my experience.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Okay, so thank you for sharing that, Joe.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I'm sure you guys.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Are you guys? Honestly, you're both welcome, So let's let's
talk about So then going back to the season, you
end up not you last, You last a long time,
but then you end up not end up not getting
a rose? Did you Did you see that coming? Were
you expecting that?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
So on that last date, I saw it coming. I
saw his connections with a couple of the other women,
and I felt like, we don't have that.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The last date being the Lumberjacks date and and Jasper
Lumberjack date, I could see that he was definitely developing
a lot of other relationships much faster.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Their banter, the way they reacted to each other. It
was just like you can see when people have chemistry.
You can see when and you can see when it's
a strong connection. And I saw it and it hurt. Honestly,
it hurt a lot seeing it in the moment, but
it was also very it was enlightening because I was like, Okay,
I think I think this is probably the end for us.
(27:12):
We had that one last conversation right before he didn't
give out the rose at the group date, and I
think a part of me still wanted to give it
my all because that's the type of person that I am,
and so I was like, I'm going to reassure you
and say, you know, hey, I'm still in this. And
he couldn't really make a decision that night on who
(27:35):
to give a rose to. So I think that's when
I knew. I say, yeah, I think it's it's over.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That's tough too, because it's like it's different than going
home early, you know, because it's like you do you
did form somewhat of a relationship, you do have a connection,
but then you kind of look around it like yeah,
but it's not as strong as everyone else, and then
you're comparing that. That's tough. But and yeah, I don't
have anything positive to say after that because you went home.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So I will add, I will add, I mean just.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
For our listeners, though she's laughing, okay, because I know
people have been that's so rude.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'm joking.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
It's to puck a joke, you know, it is what
it is, and I'm sure, like going home is never easy,
but it must have.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Not being totally blindsided probably helped you kind of get
up there and be like, Okay, I'm gonna embrace myself
a little bit for what might be to come.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I was. I was definitely bracing myself. Even the night
before a few of the ladies were there for me
because they knew I was just in shambles. I was not.
I felt it coming. I knew it was coming, and
I was trying to enjoy myself, trying to have a
good time, but also, you know, it's still it's still
gonna hurt, still not going to feel like, yeah, it's
(29:00):
not gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You're anticipating a bad moment. You're like, I know that
a bad moment is coming for me, and.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I'm just waiting for it, and I'm like, what do
I do? And so it was. It was a lot,
but I tried to just have as much, you know,
have as much as a good time with the ladies
as I could. And then when we did get our
moment to talk again, I just wanted to make sure
that he knew that I was thankful for this opportunity.
I don't I barely remember what I said. I think
(29:26):
I just thanked him a lot. But I think there
was a sense of peace that came over me, honestly,
because I knew his person was there and it wasn't me,
and I was okay with that because this journey has
been so beautiful overall, and I met some amazing women
and I've I know now that I am open to
finding love again, which I wasn't sure if I would
(29:48):
get there, but I did, and it's been beautiful.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What was it like seeing Joey again then at the
Women Tell All?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It was it was a little surreal because there's so
much time that passes and when you leave, you don't
get really closure or anything. So then he just pops
up on the couch and you're just there again and
you're like, you know. But I think after seeing him
once he sat down and everything, I was like, oh,
it just felt like it felt normal. It felt like
(30:19):
we can move past this and we can like I
can celebrate, you know, the love that you found, and
I'm I feel like he wishes me well too, So
it was just a it was a good moment.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Let's uh, let's cut to the finale because there we
we saw there was like a million different alum there
and there's a lot of rumors going around. So what
what do you got for us? Because well, we know
you guys all went out like.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, we saw the after Charities boys, Jolley's Girls.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Can we can we get Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You know, I had a great time at the after
party out. Oh did you who.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Are you talking to? Is there any any anyone in particular?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
There was no one in particular that I was talking to.
But I am open to, you know, continuing to get
to know a lot of people that I've met, and
and we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Like who, Well, give me a name. What am I
supposed to do with that? I give me a name?
Hot Sean was hot Sean?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
There was hot Sean there?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I think, I swear, like someone posted a TikTok with
all the boys trying to like shuffle or something, and
I think I saw it.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Okay, maybe I think maybe he was there. I'm not sure.
Actually maybe I don't know him by hot Sewan either.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I'm like, it's yeah Sean, blonde hair, Okay, looks like
a Kendall according to him.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Okay, give us. I'm learning a lot of people's names
and a lot of like because I didn't watch the
show either like that. My mom watched it a long
time ago, and so when people pop up, I'm like,
I know your face, but honestly, I can't remember your name,
so it's it's sometimes hard for me to get it down.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Okay, other question, we're like setups happening though, Like we'll
let you off the hook here with this wide was
there like some girls and some guys chatting. Do you
think we might see some new bachelor couples anytime soon?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
You know, there was definitely some chattering. There was definitely
some connections being made. And I'll say, you know, there's
some people who are who are are are talking pursuing? Yeah,
they're pursuing. I mean, you know, my girl, Autumn, she's
(32:56):
out here and she's live in her best life. Oh.
I think she definitely has a contender, and we'll see
where it goes. I'm happy for her, honestly. I think
she's just in a good space and she's she's excited.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
She's a cutie and we really liked her on the season.
So I love to hear that.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Nice, All right, Well you didn't answer my question. You
scatered her around it the whole time. But that's Okay,
we're gonna before we let you go, we're gonna play
rapid fire questions. First thing that comes to your mind.
Just answer, Serena, you want.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
To do it? Sure?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I got you?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
All right?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
All easy, fun questions, So let's kick it off. Coffee
or tea, tea early bird or night owl night owl?
Chill night in or fun night out?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Night out.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Adventurous or relaxing.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Vacation adventurous.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Where is your dream vacation spot.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's kind of hard because I don't really I just
want to travel everywhere and I want to see everything,
even if it's like you know, going into a city
where there's like just a town and it's local, or
going to like the big tourist spots. I love to
do it all. So I don't really have like a
specific place, but I just love to meet people wherever
I go and get englfed in the culture.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Favorite type of food or cuisine, doush full face or
natural makeup full face. Favorite place you traveled to this season.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
This season Montreal, I felt connected to that place y
Montreal was it was just like I got there and
I was like, wait, why do I feel like I'm
supposed to be here.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I was like, Oh, I still need to go. I
haven't been. I have to go.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I know we're I think going to go. We'll go
for this summer when it's a little warmer. Favorite song
or artist at the moment.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Hm at the moment. There's this song in my head
that I can't stop playing. It's called Waterfall by Uh.
I think it's disillusion or distribute Distribution by in Reya,
but it's called Waterfall. That's all I know. Yeah, I'm
never good with like people are titles. But it's a
good song.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's not the suck your balls like your sack song?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That's a different genre the whole.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Oh okay, favorite movie or genre? Uh? Favorite? Uh? Favorite
movie is remember the Titans? Genre? I would say, uh, comedy.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
What is a dating deal breaker for you?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Uh? People m O so many. I think people who
are just just uh, who talk about themselves the whole
time and don't ask you any questions because it shows
that you're not like interested in me.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Just yeah, that's a red flag. Who from Bachelor Nation
would you let wing man know?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Oh? You know what, Rachel's a good wing man. She
could be a wing woman. Rachel's a good.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Wing woman Rachel from your season.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Rachel for my season. Yes, yeah, she'd be great. She's
got my back.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And then to end it off, what is next for Kelsey?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
What's next for me? Well, I'm getting back to acting.
Things are still a little slow, but honestly, I'm just
happy to get back to doing what I love. And
even just the audition the austition process is always fun
to me too because it's just keeps that muscle going.
So that's what's next. I'm also in real estate too.
Since the strike happened, I jumped into real estate and
(36:58):
it's been exciting. It's been crazy, but it's been very exciting.
So seeing where that goes. But I think everything's aligning
for me and I'm doing what I love and I'm
not accepting anything else.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
So amazing for you.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Well, Kelsey, thank you so much for taking the time
and coming on to our show.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Thanks for having me. This is so much fun of course.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Of course, and to our listeners, thank you guys for
tuning in like always and make sure you subscribe if
you're not.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
We have more exclusive interviews coming your way, so don't
forget to listen. Joe and I will be here every
single week for you, so thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Bye.
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