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June 10, 2025 44 mins

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re diving into the “Bachelor in Paradise” Season 10 cast with Kay Brown from “The Betchelor” podcast! For the first time, Kay will be seeing the official cast announcement and is giving us all her thoughts on the first singles hitting the beach. We kick off today’s episode chatting about her experience seeing the new “Paradise” location and meeting some of the contestants! Then, we’re getting into the headshots, the predictions, and all the tea on each of our “Paradise” singles. Who’s here for the wrong reasons? Who’s definitely getting engaged this season? We’re discussing all of this and so much more! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bencher Happy Hour. I'm Joe
and I'm Serena, and we are here today.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
With our guest Kay from The Bachelor podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
And you're also you also called Do you still co
host the podcast with Jared?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:15):
So Jared and I co host the Bachelor podcast. Yes,
We've been hosting it together for since like twenty twenty.
I guess at this it feels crazy a long time,
but I've been doing it since Colton season, long time ago.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
And you guys have because like Bachelor is basically like
a media brand.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Do you do all that?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
You do other podcasts too, right, Like I've seen you
do you posting about other ones?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:39):
So Beaches has produced The Bachelor for a long time now.
It started off with the three co founders. They were
doing it, and then I took over with Derek Paith
for a while and then and then Jared and I
have been doing it ever since. But they have other podcasts,
I think like eight at this point. I used to

(01:00):
to host apt Betches, which was one of them as well.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
They're still going on now.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
But I love bech'es been working there since like twenty sixteen,
So happy to still be here.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Do you like Jared?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Love Jared? Jared and I have known each other since
since the jump. Wait do you not like Jared?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
No, I liked. I liked Jared.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
He usually Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
He's been like one of our recurring guests and he
comes on. He comes on to talk about hometown.

Speaker 6 (01:25):
Yeah, he's done a couple of hometown episode recaps here
and like, yeah, he cracks us up.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's always fun hockey.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
He always says the best stuff about you guys every
time we talk, or like if you guys come up
about something, we're always chatting. So we I know we
both love you guys so much, and also loved watching
your journey.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
How like being married?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Not that this is my podcast and I should be
asking any questions, but I'm just curious for it.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, no, it's being Married's great.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's good. It's the same as not being married. I
love it. Yeah, yeah, it's great. So far, so good.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
So we saw you actually went down to Costa Rica Paradise.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Why what were you doing there? What was that all about?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So fun?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Again, I've been covering the Bachelor for a long time,
so this was such a cool experience. They reached out
and they were like Hey, we're doing a whole new paradise.
We want to invite some of you down who either
cover like pop culture or just been fans of the
show for a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
So we got to see the resort.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
We got to do a fun press junket with some
of the cast members that we don't know all of them,
we just know like a few, and we got to
meet Jesse and Hannah and Wells, who I've actually met
prior to this before, just like being in the Bachelor
Nation universe. But we got to see the resort and
all of the fun stuff that goes along with it,

(02:48):
and I think it's going to be a really, really
exciting season. I'm excited for the revamp. I mean, you
guys saw the last one. The last you guys were
at the last resort, so this is definitely.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Nicer, right I heard, it's like much nicer.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I mean, it's like a gorgeous, gorgeous resort. It's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's definitely no sand in the bed, so okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah, is there like doors and windows?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Doors and windows. Though, I'm gonna be honest with you,
I do not know.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
If I don't know a lot of the details, but
if they're staying at the actual resort, there are doors, walls, windows,
ac ac.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
You could drink the water, which.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Is nice, like goes crazy, I know, my god.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Okay, Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
The main reason we have you here is because the
Bachelor in Paradise cast has officially been announced, and we're
going to go through everyone. We want to hear your thoughts.
Be nice, be mean, be fun, say whatever. We're going
to do the same. But before we get into that,
do you have do you have a favorite sea? Because
you've been covering the show for so long, do you

(03:59):
have a favoravorite season of Bachelor in Paradise?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh? Wow, that's a great question.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I think one of my favorite seasons, just because I
think the players were such heavy hitting players, was like
the Ashley I, hay La, Quinn, Jared, that whole season
where Jared and Ashley I finally decided to be together.
I think that was one of the best seasons. It's

(04:27):
just like so much drama.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yes, nice, I agree, All right.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Should we get into the cast announcements.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Joe and I have seen the official cast and just
for context, this is everyone that's going to be down
there day one. Obviously, with Paradise we know that people
are coming and going throughout the entire season, so this
is just the original first day one cast that we're
going to be reviewing today. And Kay, you know a
few of these people because you went down to Paradise

(04:59):
and did some interviews and all of that, but you
don't know everyone, so a lot of this is going
to be like a reaction for you.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay, great, I'm so excited. Oh good it do.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
All right, let's get into it.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
So first up, we have Alex from Bachelor twenty nine,
which was the last season of the Bachelor of Grant
Allison's season. She is from New Brunswick, Canada, a pediatric
speech therapist, and she is twenty eight. You guys might
remember Alex. She was the first Impression Rose recipient and

(05:34):
the first one on one date recipient on Grant season,
so like an early fan favorite and then you know,
she kind of had a trickle off effect. We ended
up seeing she got them home before hometowns. Some people
were really surprised by that.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
What do we think? I feel like, there's no shock
that she's.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, even see her night the first night. I was like,
that's a that's a paradise.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
CONTI and in her hot seat on the at the
Woman tell All for Grant season. I feel like it
really felt like they were teeing her up for Paradise.
Like I actually thought they were gonna do an early
announcement for her in her hot seat like they did
with Hakima Zoe.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, this is a great cast member for Paradise, just
because exactly what you said. Honestly, she was such a
heavy hitter at the beginning. She got that one on
one date because of the first impression Rose. I remember
they did that thing where if you've got the first
impression Rose, you automatically got the first one on one date.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
But you're right, she kind.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Of had a little she kind of faded away a
bit towards the end. So I'm excited to see her
on Paradise. She's perfect for this, and I really hope
I mean I hope they all find love, but I
hope she finds love because she seems great.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
I feel like she's gonna do well in Paradise.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
I mean there's always cast members Joe and I will
be like, Okay, yeah, they're great on the normal season,
but like they're really suited for Paradise.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
I don't even know exactly what it is.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
I think it's just like the more outgoing, kind of
like silly magnetic personnalit and I feel like she kind
of falls in that category. Like we were like, yeah,
I don't know if I stay it with her and Grant,
but I think she's well student. I think there's gonna
be a lot of guys that have their.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Eyes already a lot of heartbreak I fear coming in
the guy's way, all right.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
Next up we have Bailey, also from France season Atlanta,
Georgia social media manager twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Do you remember Bailey?

Speaker 6 (07:25):
She never remember one date, I don't think, and she
went home a little bit earlier on I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I'm personally I'm glad she's cast it. I think she'll
be great.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
She's another like great personality for Paradise, so bubbly, so fun.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
What do you think? I agree?

Speaker 4 (07:38):
I think she's super, super fun. I'll never forget her.
In Grant season where she was like I just can't
stop crying, and I related to that so hard. I
was like, I knew she wanted to stop crying, but
like her emotions were built up so much and it
was such a relatable moment love Bailey super excited for her.
I remember she brought those Like was it like a
bob or like a wig or something?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah she did. I totally forgot about that.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Night one they did like a little wig try on.
That was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
She kind of like fizzled off.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
She was another one that really didn't get much like
screen time, kind of fizzled out a little bit. So like,
I'm glad that they cast her because Yeah, and I
think a lot of guys will like her.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yeah, I think she's very bubbly.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
It's the key, that's the key to all this shit.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's just about like will this person be well A
lot of people want to date this person, and if
they will, then it's going to be a good shot.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
Well, and I do think that for Paradise day one,
it is kind of like an extroverts game unfortunately, a
little bit like when you go on The Bachelor, Like
you are kind of guaranteed at least like five to
ten minutes of one on one time, so you don't
have to be like the most outgoing person or the
biggest personality in the room for them to like really
get a sense of who you are. Because you're going

(08:54):
to get that time, so they don't have to like
naturally be drawn to you necessarily to find out that
they like you.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Where's pair that first day.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
The people that do come in with like a bigger
personality and like just more confident in that like environment
tend to have a better first day.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Doesn't mean like you.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
Can't love, no, yeah, unless you're like you know, hopefully
you're finding out someone else that hangs out in the background.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right, Okay, next stop he's just straight laughing at the guy.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
He is a cartoon character to me, But go ahead
and do the intro.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
So we have Brian.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
He is from Bachelorette twenty one, which is jen season
of The Bachelorette. He's from Florida and esthetics consultant thirty
four years old.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
This photo is so funny to me.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
We only have like the cropped version on our phones
of like just the headshot, but seeing the full like
like the look that like this is such an Instagram photo.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Such an Insta photo, and I I will never forget.
Also when he I think it was Jeremy in the
car during Gen season, like Jeremy I think.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Brought this car or he brought the car, but there.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Were so the guys I got in a fight about
the car.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Was that it Yeah, yeah, that's what it was, and
it was it was really confident of him to come
out here and do all of that. He's kind of
I worry about him because I feel like he's kind of,
for lack of a better word, a joke but you
know what I mean, Like it feels like a little
too like silly, goofy mood and not serious looking for love.

(10:36):
But I am ye, I'm ready to be ready to
stand corrected if I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, we'll see I kind of agree. I don't know.
I mean we just don't. You know, some people you
just don't see.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
A lot of So it's just hard like how like
like we only really know of him with like involved
in a.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
Little bit of that car interaction was so silly, like
he was sitting in the car, he wouldn't get out.
It wasn't in his car. It was like, what's even
happening here? Like it just feels like you're trying to
like mess with this dude for no reason.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
You've been here for like.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
An ego thing.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah, it felt like an ego thing. But I mean
we're always here for a redemption. I feel like he
might need to be with someone that's like a little
bit like quirkier.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Maybe I don't know, I don't know who.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
I say, yeah, all right, let's jump to the next one.
We have the one and only Dale Moss.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Kay, did you know he was going to be there?
I did know he was going to be there.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
He was one of the people we got to interview,
and I but I want to tell you that when
I found doubt that he was going to be there,
I was a little I was very shocked. I was like, whoa,
because he had that quick he had that stent with Claire,
and then we kind of like lost down. We didn't
really see him. But this is going to be a

(11:48):
big one.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I think. I think the women are going to love him.
He's so tall.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
He's so tall, so handsome and charming. I'm excited to
see what you get from Dale because I think he's
gonna be a hot player, and I think a lot
of the women are gonna want him, So I'm excited
to see who he chooses.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I agree.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
For those that maybe aren't familiar, Dale Moss was on
Claire's season of The Bacherette and this was like an
iconic moment where Claire and Dale got engaged after like
three episodes of the show and left. Yeah, they obviously
didn't work out, and he's thirty five years old. I
think there's something appealing about like these guys that's kind

(12:30):
of actually ironic that I'm about to say this that
come back like a few years later and have like
experience on the show and in the franchise, and there's
like they usually like I feel like Blake Moyin's like
he came in to Paradise what was it last season
or two seasons ago, with like a lot of ease
right Like he's like I've been here before, like this
sense of confidence.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
And I'm wondering if we're going to see that from.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Dale at your husband well, or if we're.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Gonna see what you did, which is just like you
came in and you were like what the fuck am
I doing back here? So I'm wondering like the energy
we're gonna see from Dale on dayway, But I agree,
I think a lot of women are going to be interested.

(13:15):
Next up, we have Hakeem fan favorite from gen season,
and he's thirty years old and we already knew he
was going to be there because they anoustid it.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah yeah, I mean, okay, what's your take on him?
I mean, not much to talk about because we kind of, yeah,
we knew he was going to be there, But what.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Do you think?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I mean, I like Hakeem a lot.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I think he was such a bright light on the show,
just made everything feel fun and like lighthearted every time
he came on screen, Like I knew I could like
breathe for a second out of the drama.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Another one.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
That I worry about him getting his heart broken because
he does seem like the sensitive type a bit, And
I agree, I wonder what this is gonna bring him. Also,
one thing that after watching Paradise and you guys, I'm
sure could already know this, is that Paradise kind of
either gives you like a redemption story or kind of

(14:12):
like brings you down from that throne. And I wonder
what's gonna happen with him because he has this like
fandom and he has this like love from the fans
so much.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
I hope he doesn't mess this up because that would
be sad.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I could see it being like I could because
he's like he has this like right now, his story
is just this like bright, fun personality, but like I
can almost see it.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Like him, like, oh my god, I've got.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Social like like who is the who is the guy?
I think it was on the Last Paradise Rodney, No,
not Rodney, I like Brown and they kind.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Of friend zone themselves. I feel like he's gonna friend
zone himself.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
There was there was a there was a guy at
the beginning of Paradise who got like in a love
triangle but like I know, talking about terrible and then
he would run away and cry.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Elizabeth Kylie with Jill and Kira.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, something like that where it's like no one's that series.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
It'll either be like he gets friend zoned because he's
just kind of got this like yeah, like light, bubbly
personality and like he doesn't form a romantic connection, or yeah,
he's gonna end up in like an accidental love triangle
because he's just like too nice and doesn't know how
to like navigate this world of like women throwing themselves
at him.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
I love Achem, though, so I am curious to see
what this journey is going to bring him.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yeah, all right, Next up, we have Jeremy. Jeremy is
from Gen Season. He made it to hometowns are fantasy suits,
And I'm gonna stop saying their jobs because no one cares.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
If he's on Gen Season, that's his job, job, this's
his job.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Was he was on Gen.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Ze say, I don't have too much hope for Jeremy,
if I'm going to be completely honest, only because I've
interviewed him a few times and we've we've talked to
him a few times, and I've mentioned Paradise and he's
always said he doesn't he's not even gonna go. And
of course he's in the original cast. But his thing
is he's met He kept saying that he met all
the women.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Yes, he has been saying that, Like I've talked to
a lot of these women.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I've met them.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
It's hard when you live in like a New York
or ally to your past kind of end up organically
crossing or they all go start like seek each other
out and they're like, oh, I'm going to drinks and
I ran into Jeremy and he's going to come out
with all his friends and we're all going to hang out,
which is just like you know what happens every season.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, So like I feel like in like just looking
at the original cast and they're only being six women,
Like I just feel like he may have met half.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Of these girls.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
So if he he doesn't have a strong connection immediately,
then yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
But I don't know Jeremy.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I think he says he doesn't want to be a
part of this stuff, but he low key does. I mean, you,
you don't have to hang out with everybody from Bachelor
Nation every time you go out, but if that's every
picture you're posting on social media as you and everybody
from your cast, then you're obviously hanging out with the girls.
I think he's I think he's wanted to come this

(17:18):
whole time, and he was just playing it off and
trying to be cool about it.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yeah, Jeremy has told us in like three interviews that
he's not going to do Paradise, and I've not believed
it one time that he said it, like, not one
time for not even for like a second, not even
like one percent of it. Like I was like, yeah, Okay,
you're going, you'll be there, You'll be original cast, Like
we know how this plays out, Like there's someone from
every season that claims like.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
They're not going. I don't know, I'm gonna. I'd rather meet.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Someone in the organic way and then like they're down there,
So like, no shame to him.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
It always happens.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
But I do want to say one thing though about
Say Say It is that on The Bachelor, Jared and
I talked about and then our producer at the time,
Jazz Jeremy's kiss with Jen was like one of top
five kisses I've seen on the show, which kid, So
I hope, honestly, any of them there was one.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
There was one.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I don't know if it was like hometowns or it
was closer to the end where it was kind of
it was a really good kiss, So I hope one
of the girls at least gives him a chance to
get a kiss in because it looked good.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Okay, I mean I think the girls are gonna like him.
I think he's not gonna have an issue with that.
I think the girls are going to be into him
for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
I just think it's hard if you're in Paradise and
you have a like too cool for school attitude, like
you have to really be ready to go down there.
And put yourself out there and lean into it. So
I'm curious to see what approach he takes.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, all right. Next up we have Jess.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
She was not Grant season. She was Joey's season, and
she got kind of like a I don't know if
I'd go as far to call it a villain at it,
but she didn't look super great at times on the show.
I think she was kind of a little bit involved
in the Maria drama.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah, she was involved in the Maria drama, but if
I'm being so honest, I completely.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Forgot about her.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
She was one of the people that we also interviewed
in Paradise, and I remember them mentioning her name and
I was like, I can't put a finger on who
this is, and then I saw her. She's kind of
like I remember her during her season when she was announced,
she was like the Hannah Brown copy paste yes yeh.
And I love that she has gone Brunette gets her

(19:37):
out of that. I think that like realm, but I don't.
I don't have a lot of details on her. I
don't know much about her. She was super sweet when
we interviewed, very fun. I think she'll be fun on
the Beach. I do think she's going to I have
a feeling she's gonna be there for a bit. And
I think the guys will like her because she's very bubbly,

(19:59):
very super friendly.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I think she's gonna do well.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Okay, that's really.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
Good in this photo, Like she looks good, Burnette, This
is a gorgeous photo of her. Yeah, love, I would
love to see. I don't know, Like I said, she
wasn't on Joey season that long. She wasn't like a
villain by any means. But I would just love like
a redemption story for her, Like I would love to
see more of like a fun.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Playful side to her.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
I feel like we saw her crying a lot and
diving into like more serious things when she was talking
to Joey, and I would just love to see a
more fun, playful, flirty side to her. I think if
we can see that, like this could be a good
journey for her and Joy.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Joey's season was a bigger season, like a first big
uses than we've had in a while, And I think
there was some like really like women that popped off
popped off on that season, like Maria Kelsey, Daisy where
like Jess was middle.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Of the pack.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Jen Jen literally became the bestlret So Jess, you just
kind of like, like you remember her tough competition.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, to stand out on that it was.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, that was a really really hard season to stand out.
You're totally right, Serena.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah, next step, we have Jonathan.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
We we already knew he was going right.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
I'm glad they crafted it where they did, or would
have just been like a lot of inner thigh clutching
my pearls.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
A photo.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Jonathan was on Gen seasons the.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
First person announced the first was he the first person
announced the paradise?

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yes, okay, he was.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
I mean even if he hadn't been announced, like would
have been no surprise. He made it very far in
Gen season. Was kind of another fan favorite, super handsome.
So I don't know. I think he'll do I think
he'll do good. I think he'll be someone that like
hopefully connects with someone like right away and just kind
of like settles down.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah. I think so too.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
I have some notes and I disagree tell us. I
like Jonathan as a person, very cool. I've hung out
with him here in law times, but I think.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
He is not here for the right reasons. I think
he is here for social I don't really do not
find him.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
I do not find him as a serious person when
it comes, I don't I don't see it.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I don't know if it's.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Like there's no shade in making TikTok videos and being
on social and everything, but there's something.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
About him.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I worry that he's not coming here seriously looking for something,
and I would predict that he does not leave with
anything more than maybe a girlfriend or like a let's
leave the beach together.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
They're not they're not getting he's not getting engaged. If
I had that predict, I like that prediction.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, because for all.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
This I know, but I feel like that's that's an
interesting take because I feel like watching him on Gen season,
what we've seen of him and then he right, he
came off of that show as like the only likable
guy almost correct.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yeah, he definitely was like the favorite. He was the
one that people were like, oh, Jen, you messed up,
like you should have picked Jonathan kind of thing. There's
always like one of those. But what you're saying is
super interesting because I do feel like, well, yes, like
he definitely ended up like going hard on socials for sure.
But I think when you go down to the beach,

(23:27):
if you're not serious, unless you're like soulmate or your
wife is there, which can still happen where you're like,
holy shit, I might have not come down here with
serious intentions, but like Rice is the person for me.
People feel that, like you sense it, especially like women.
I feel like they pick up on that, and I
feel like it will result in him going home earlier

(23:47):
than people are expecting, because there's a chance that people,
just the girls, just don't take him seriously or they
sense that, like hmm, like I like him if I'm
looking for like a fun fling on the beach, but like,
I don't think this guy's maybe looking.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
For a wife.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
He reminds me of Aaron Clancy, okay from who was
with uh.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
He was on our season.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
He was on our season and then I think he
went back.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
But I will say to that.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Point for Genevieve, right, I thought it was so obvious
and like, I literally love Aaron so much, but I
thought it was so obvious on our.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Season that he was.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
He wasn't there to be seriously.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
There to hang out James. He just wanted to show
with James. And go on some fun dates.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
He was the first person I talked to when I
went down on the beach, and well one of the first,
and he he came as a grocery store Joe, what's up, bro?
And and I really like Aaron, and I remember thinking
what the fuck am I doing?

Speaker 4 (24:40):
I know, I just feel like he's gonna be there
just and he wants to want to stay on as
long as he can.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
He's gonna give out. He's gonna he's gonna give.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Out friendship roses or hope that he gets a friendship.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Ros so we can stay longer.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
I don't know, he might be like the Aaron Clancy
of the season where he just kind of like hops around, yeah,
friendship roses, the new girl comes in, takes him on
a date, get through that week, and like kind of just.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Nothing more boring to me on this show than the
friendship rose.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like I find it to get out of here.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Like it's so fucking boring.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
It's like, we get it that you guys are all
friends and we like this person.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
It's unavoidable, right because sometimes it's just like I literally
don't have a connection and I have to go out
a rose this week, so like, who am I going
to give it to?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Then give it to somebody that nobody wants to stay
there because then at least that's fun to watch rama.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Next step we have justin glaze of.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
This photo of him like kills me because it's like
giving like model shot.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's too serious for him, very very goofy person. But
what's so funny is like watching him on social he
also gives me very much like Jonathan energy. I think
he's probably maybe more serious about finding somebody this time
because he's kind of like.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Been around for a bit longer.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
But again, oh he he was with Susie for a while,
wasn't he.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Yeah, So Justin's backstory is he was on Katie Thurston
season The bauch Ratte, which was like four or three
four years ago now, and made it. He made it
all the way to final four. Then he went on
Paradise season eight. It kind of was one of those
like he just never really stuck the landing, like it
felt like he would kind of jumped around to different people,

(26:35):
went home. He came back for Eliza, which was kind of.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Weird because she was like, why would you do that?

Speaker 6 (26:43):
Well, it was like she was dating Rodney at the
time on the Beach was like Rodney and Eliza were
the couple, and then Justin came back down and like
stole Eliza from Rodney, which was kind of weird because
they were like.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Friends, right.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
The whole storyline was bizarre. Eliza was kind of like
playing both of them a little bit. She kind of
wasn't looking too great that season, but it's also go Afiza,
and now Justin's just come out of like a bit
of an on and off but like long serious relationship
with Susie Evans.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, I think like if I had the guests, like
watching that Paradise season, which I thought wasn't the best,
Justin's back because of his past relationship with Susie and
they are going to be bringing.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
That to the Beach. If I if I, if I
were to guess why.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
He's back, Well, is that a spoiler?

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I would have It's not a spoiler, but I'm going
to assume, knowing knowing the show and knowing what they
did to me, I would assume maybe she's coming. Even
if she doesn't come back, who.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Would want to do Paradise if she had the opportunity
and Justin strikes me as someone who would want to
do Paradise if we have the if he had the opportunity,
he's already down there. It's I guess whether justin being
there would prevent Susie from going or if she would
go anyway is the question, because I'm sure they asked her.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
I mean, she singles beautiful.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Well, I have a question for you, guys, what.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
How do you feel about coming to Paradise to rekindle
a past relationship? Like do you feel like that's not genuine?

Speaker 3 (28:27):
You know what I mean? Like they both live in.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
La Yeah, I do, Like why would you right, because
it's like, why don't you just handle it outside of
the beach and just date? Because you're around each other
all the time. I see them at events all the time.
They're always together in the same friend group. If you
have to come to Paradise to rekindle things, I don't know.
I'm just curious what you guys think.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, I agree, like if they if if they get
to if she comes down to Paradise and they get together,
it's gonna be really hard for a level headed person
to not be like.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
This, why didn't you just figure this out at home?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Not like I like I could see it, Like I
don't have an issue with them both going and then
they're being like, you know, feelings from the past and
being a little confused and all that, and maybe their
minds changed. When you do see them actually dating someone
else and you're like, but if it's just they cleaned,
like hey, we're back and we're gonna get back together

(29:24):
on this show, then it's like, okay, well you could
do that.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
I think if she comes down and they like immediately
start to like be like, should we give this another try,
it's like, guys, there's no way you weren't suspicious you
were both going to be down here, like you didn't
want to figure this out before. But I think that
if they are both down there, it's going to be
natural for there to be like massiness around them dating
other people in front of each other, because like the

(29:49):
breakup wasn't wasn't like that long ago? Was it like
within the last year?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
So yeah, didn't feel very dramatic either, So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
So up we have cat.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Oh my god, Yeah, like totally makes sense she's back, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Make sense for her immediately stressed?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, like just she it makes
sense she's back if she's single. She had a weird
engagement with John Henry.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, after like nine days or something bizarre.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
She is someone that I think would get engaged every
time she goes on the show. Like she just has
that like fuck it mentality, like and she.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Wouldn't think anything of it.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
Yeah, but I like her.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Another one on Paradise, I thought she was great.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
She was like crucial to the entertainment of the season,
and I know she got a lot of hate and
like she got way too much in my opinion for
what was going on, like an undeserving amount of hate.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
But I think she's good for the show.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
She's completely like unhinged on the show.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Again, great for TV, great for the whole moving the
plot along. I hope she comes back this season with
this same type of like energy, but maybe half or
just like you know what I mean, just because watch
her Watching her sometimes stressed me out.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
It was stressful.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
I was like, like you want to get you through
your screen and just be like girl, I like chill
want to shake you, like what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Like You're the one person here that should not have
any issues.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Like she she's so hot.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, she's like all the guys will like her, just
just just chill off for a second.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
But she couldn't.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
No.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Yeah, but like she's gorgeous, like she's gonna have it
easy getting down there.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
But I can see her with Dale. She did that.
She was Dale alive because Dale's kind of like Timid.
Dale's a quiet, quiet guy.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
She needs that, she needs the Ying Yang situation.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yes, okay, next next up we have Kyle.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Oh my god, do you know do you remember him?

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Because I don't.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
I have hung out with Kyle many a time. He
was after Katie season. We became great friends, super nice guy.
Honestly forgot he existed with full respect. I just haven't
talked to him in a long time. So this is
the I'm shocked at this. I'm gonna be shockedocked.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
I'm shocked too, what do you.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Because I don't really remember him. So he was on
Katie Thurston season.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
There wasn't anything, I mean, from my knowledge, I don't
think there was anything to remember.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Super nice, very like awkward guy.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
I went like this, that's crazy, uh, awkward kind of guy,
but hanging out in the background a bit. So this
choice is interesting.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
It is a random choice for me, Like, not nothing
against Kyle, but there was just so many contestants to
choose from this season, like what made them be Like,
you know who we need to circle back on is
Kyle four years ago who early on Katie.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
So that's good when they do that, because like, so
he's good looking, somebody like him, he.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Could good looking, dude.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
I think it's good to throw in a wild card
of like people won't expect to see him there, but yeah,
he's good looking, and like maybe we'll form a serious connection.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
That's funny. You guys are like he's good looking.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I'm like he is Joe in a different font just
like italicized.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, okay, next up, we have how fast I Boom?
Let's go? Oh Lexi? Lexi's back. This is one that
makes sense to me. I even thought she was potentially
gonna be.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
Yeah, we thought she had maybe a good chance of
being the Bacheler atte. We really liked her on Joey season.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
She made it far.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
She is endometriosis, which I'm curious to see if that
impacts like her day to day experience when we're like
filming at a hot climate Costa Rica.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Yeah, I I connected with Lexi a lot.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
She's right.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
I also love her sharing her story about having endo.
I also had endedmetriosis and adnamiosis and a fibroid tumor
that was also in my uterus.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
I had a full hysterectomy to my gosh, oh my GOSHO. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
So I really really loved her story and connected with that.
And I hope that she finds somebody that's serious, because
I mean the whole thing on Joey season was talking
about how she's like, I have this timeline, like things
are ticking, like I don't know even what my organs
are able to do right now. So I hope she

(34:40):
finds somebody that's going to take her seriously and take
this seriously, because yeah, she needs that.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
She's great.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Love that.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, I agree. I hope we.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
Can't see anyone. We can't have anyone down there wasting
Lexi's time.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
No, okay, no, next up, we have Ricky.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
I don't know who this man is.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
Ricky was on literally was like he was on Gen
season and yeah to say this, but I don't remember him.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
He must man.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
I'm sorry this man, but I've never I don't know
who this man.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Is I know exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
We got him and Kyle back to back and they're
both Yeah, I don't was he.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
The guy that was doing did he do like a
bunch of backflips the first night of gen season?

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Who was the guy that Maybe he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
I don't know. I mean, he looks like he could
potentially could do one.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
I have no idea, Ricky. We're so sorry, but we
can't wait to see you in paradise.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
I don't know who this is, but very good looking,
super cute.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Super cu like he looks like he's got good style.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Ricky.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
There, I'm curious on your thoughts on this guy.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Next up, Uh, Sam m from Jen season.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Yeah, he was the og villain of the season, turned
like kind of less of a villain because he like
hated Devon so much and then everyone else was like,
we also hate Devin.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Now yeah, but the season was over, so.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Yeah, it was a little too Like at the end
of the day, Sam was right about Devon, but we
also weren't wrong about Sam, right right, you.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Like, it's just because he made that point doesn't mean
the points that were made about him were off.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Yes, all the points made by samm are probably still valid,
but he did clock Devon.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I could see him having a redemption story.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
I hope, So, I hope. So he's a good looking guy.
He's like very good looking. I'm sure he means well.
But hopefully he like you know, talked it out with
a therapist, like figured out like honestly, just like relationship
goals in general, it's like, Okay, this is what I
was given and this is what I was on TV,
and how everything he was saying it didn't make any

(37:01):
sense and it didn't kind of go together and nothing
was lining up. So hopefully he took that and is
kind of like going into this with a mentality of
this is.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
The new me what you saw. Yeah, but now we have.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
This because again he's a great looking guy. So I
feel like the women will like him, but I wonder
if they'll forget Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Well, I also think, like he, I think there's a chance,
like looking back, he might realize like he wasn't really
that into gen Like I think he just got caught
up in the show of it all, like the competition element.
Like I don't know if I really saw that connection
with him and Jen. I don't think he really like
felt what he thought he felt for her. So I
would love to see him come down, like really fall

(37:43):
for someone and get to see it like a more genuine,
authentic side of him. Like we love redemption story when
it comes to paradise, and I think people as much
as like it was not good for him on gen
season for good reason.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
I would love to see this be.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Different for him. There's a chance, there's a chance, there's
a chance for.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
You, Sam, all right, Next up, we have this photo.
We have Spencer. We have Spence.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Some of these poses are too much.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I don't know what's happening in this photo.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
But I love him. He's a sweetie.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Butzer, Yeah, I mean Spencer. We've interviewed him, we've had
him on the podcast a few times.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Really nice guy, nice guy.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Really, he could hold the conversation, very friendly. I do
remember him calling his mom when he got eliminated from.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
You know, you know, he didn't get that phone himself.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Think I could see Spencer. I could see Spencer getting engaged.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, yeah, I can see him engaged too.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
He was one of the people we got to interview
as well, and it was so funny inside tidbit of
our press jud Git. I remember all of us would
go in one at a time, and every single time
somebody came out from interviewing Spencer, I was I think
I was the last of the group every time, and
every time somebody came out of Spencer's interview, they were like,

(39:03):
he's amazing.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
I love this guy.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
He's so I mean, and you walk in and he
immediately makes you feel comfortable.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
He's super bubbly.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Also had I think he's had a glow up because
I fear I don't remember the Spencer.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
He's looking a little buffer in this photo that I recall.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
I don't know if it's the hair, the status. Yeah,
he definitely looks buffer. I think when you see yourself
on TV, you probably like MY favorite shows are The
Women and Mentell all because it's after you've like witnessed
the TV version of you and you're like, huh, maybe
that haircut, Oh yeah, is not the vibe and.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Than I did in a single episode of the Best Yes.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Well not yes about you. But that's the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Is like watching the glow ups is so fun, and
I think he's had one.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I agree, as I'm like biting my lip.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Okay, next up, last, but not least.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Zoe Zoe.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
These photos overall are just way more like glamorous. These
are glamour shot like these like this, every single photo
is like a million times better than my.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Paradise cast photo. Like they are gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
These are stunning.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
And I mean she's she's a model, so she's like, Okay, great,
put me in a bikini, babe, also engineer. I fear
we always miss out on that. So I love Zoe.
Her and I have like become definitely definitely like girlies
throughout Grant season and stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
She's so fun to be around.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
She was one of the people we interviewed as well,
so I got to meet her in person for the
first time there, and she is I mean, she's quiet,
you know.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, I was gonna say. I think my biggest thing
for her is I feel like she will have hardy.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
In like big groups, like big group setting day one,
like I can see being very difficult for her.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
I think so too, no, but I wonder if that
might be an advantage.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
I don't know, Like I think, man, I really am.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
I'm hoping for her because she didn't get that one
on one during Grant season but made it so to hometowns,
and uh, I really like her and that purple.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, it's really good color. It's a beautiful photo.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I'm excited to see what happens because she kind of
had a billinette it a little bit at the beginning
of Grant Season, and then Jared and I when we
were talking, like going through the show, We're like, oh, wait,
we really like her, you know what. I think we
were confused at the beginning, but this is just who
she is and it's not like some sort of act
that she was kidding.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Yeah, we really like her too.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
She was one of the genuine people on that season.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Yeah, We've had her on the podcast a few times.
I feel like she actually is really ready for a
serious relationship. Whether this environment is gonna work for her,
I'm not sure. I think she's someone that as much
as she was like very forward on Grant Season, I
think she'll do better in this environment if there's a
guy there that's really pursuing her.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Oh my gosh, I totally agree with that. I think
of guys need to pursue her like it's going to
have to be a come to me.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yeah, kind of think that's what she'll be more comfortable
with if like, she can just be chill and pretty
and they can be like, hey, I really like you.
So we'll see if that plays out or herd is
on the beach.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Okay, well that is everyone, Kay, thank you so much
for coming on before we let you go.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Out of all the cast that we just looked at and.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Judged harshly, who if you were to pick one couple
out of that, who are you taking? Who you putting
your money on to make it? To make it to
the end, not to just like the end, so not
to just hook up, Like who would you think? Out
of that whole if that original cast, if two were
to get together and get engaged.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
I would say, because we talked about this, I think
it's going to be Cat is going to be one
of them. Because I do think she's going to get
engaged every season. I think she's going into this like
fully head on. Yes, And because we also mentioned Dale,
I think a Cat and a Dale could be a
really interesting couple.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
I don't I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
I like it. I both like returning veterans.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Both have been engaged before in very very very short
amounts of time, meaning they're kind of willing to just
like throw caution to the wind and say, well, second,
let's get engaged.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Both looks like they could be old Navy models, like
for like the old baby Like Christmas campaign.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
They're both in that.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
Yeah, they're both the pajamas in front of the Christmas catalog.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I think I would say, I would say, if there's
going to be anybody that makes it to the end
and gets engaged, it would be those two. And it
would mainly be because of Cat holding a knife to
Dale's bag, like do it, do it?

Speaker 3 (43:49):
We're getting engaged.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Cool? Kay.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Thank you so much taking the time out of your
busy day. Thank you, and to all our listeners, thank
you for tuning in the bed or Happy Hour. Make
sure you download it, subscribe to the podcast.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
We have a new and explosive interviews coming your way
as we tee up towards the new season of Bachelor
in Paradise.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Thank you so much for listening.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Bye.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

Ridiculous History

Ridiculous History

History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.

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