August 9, 2022 • 42 mins
Jessica and Bryan tell an incredible tale of a cartastrophe that had dangerous and lasting consequences with Jessica’s cart buddy for life. Also Jessica and Bryan interview Megan Roca who gives the inside tips and tricks of being a top earning cart girl.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to Balls and Holes, Jessica Bows and Brian
past Room. Baby, we're back. Hi. How are you good?
So we had an exciting week? Yes we did. I've
got some updates for everybody. Well I broke eight. Oh yeah,
hell are yeah? Congratulations baby, thank you? It was amazing, right, Yes,
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I was there. You were there. Uh. You and I
had not played together for a while, and uh we
finally got out together, and I had no idea that
this was going to happen, and it was amazing. Yes,
you did it. You skimmed by with the seventy nine,
but it's still breaking eighty. I don't know that I
appreciate the skimmed by, and I do want to note
for our listeners that I was at a solid seventy
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seven up until the seventeenth, actually the eighteenth hole, where
I then Scottie Scheffler masters moment on the green and
I end up three putting, which I had not taken
a double bogie in my entire round. I think I
had like a EVN Pars that game. Took a double
bogie on the last hole. Uh, to close it out
at a seventy nine. I did it. I broke a
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d I know what a glorious moment you're two over
on the front nine. And I didn't want to tell
you because I don't want to make you nervous. But
you knew the score card. I did. I knew it.
How that makes you feel on the back night, Well,
it was funny. The front nine was totally awesome, and
I was like, oh, this feels great, and oh, I
guess I'm doing this And I really wasn't even going
for like I have a shot at this today, I
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will say when we finished out the front nine and
I really realized how good of a standing I was in,
I had this moment of like do I eat? Do
I even go to the bathroom? Do I change anything? Like?
What do I do? And every other shot there forward
on the back nine was absolutely anxiety inducing. It was
like a panic attack at every shot because I knew
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I had a shot and I could feel it in
my bones I was going to do it. I was
really tense. It was kind of horrible. So now you
know what a golfer feels like. That's a true feeling
of a golfer. Well, like the first thing you said
to me was like, now you know you can do it,
you're gonna want to do it again, And like my
first thought was like, yeah, now I know I can
do it, and I don't even give a ship if
I do it again, because that was so difficult and
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like so like it was just so anxiety. Do we
have so much more respect for PGA tour players? Oh
my god, to do that all day long for money
in front of everybody, and you had to do it
between you and I. I mean I remember making fun
of Shuffler at the Masters when he ended up three
puttying at the end and still winning. And I now
have such like what's the word appreciation and empathy for that,
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because I mean, here it is. I was just with you,
and I knew how close I was and I was shaking.
Welcome to the seventies club, babe, Thank you baby. That
took me eight games. I started in January. I played
ninety eight games in a row. I started at in
the triple digits. My scores were in the triple digits,
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and I have like gotten down and gotten down and
here I am seventy nine. So I have an update
that was I have a new update. We have previously
mentioned my cart buddy for life, Mr Scott and um
we all went out last week and uh played a
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new course. We played a new course. It was beautiful.
It was such a beautiful course, right, it was not
at all anything that we're used to. And we decided
again that since Scotty and I are part you know,
cart partners for life, that you and Derby would ride
together and Scott and I would ride together. And you know,
it started off as a normal day. I uh we
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we carved it up. We had it out. First hole
went great, everybody was happy to be there. I'm not
really sure what happened at the second hole, because Scott
and I were kind of doing our own thing and
you and Derby were doing yours. But as we made
it down the fairway and towards the green, I remember
looking over and you kind of like shot me a
look and you were like, did you see that? And
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I thought you meant did I see your shot, to
which I come completely lied and was like, yeah, it
was great. Yeah. So what happened, Uh, I was looking
at you to see if you saw me javelin throw
my six d degree wedge into the forest, right, So
I did not see this. And as we approached the
green and got closer, I could tell that you were
really piste off and I didn't understand why, and I
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just kept trying to like play the like cool guy.
And all of a sudden, like you're well, all of
a sudden, Scotty and I are standing there. Scotty doesn't
realize what's going on either, and we hear this like
rustling in the bushes, and it was so much that
like Scott and I both stopped dead in our tracks,
looked at each other, grabbed each other's arms, and were like,
what in God's name is in those bushes? We thought
it was a bear or something because we were kind
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of in some like wooded area, and lo and behold,
it was no bear. It was Brian looking for his club.
So next thing you know, Brian Derby, Scott and I
are deep in the woods looking for this club that
he has thrown so far, and all I can think
is I'm going through this is like, oh my God,
like we have to find this club. If we don't
find this club, I'm gonna get dry back to this
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exact spot after this round is over, and we're going
to be like deep in the woods searching for this
stupid club that my beautiful husband has lost his temper
and thrown until we find it. I want to make
one You're right about all that. I want to make
one clarification. I did not javelin throw it. I did
a hammer throw. It was a hammer. It was a
hammer throw. I didn't like throw it like a and
uh yeah, because it's a whole long story, but it
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ends up with um me buying a chipper and because
I didn't my six D degree wedge. And also it's
I bought this p h G wedge that was used
and it had some scuff marks in it. I'm like,
I have so much Roger Dune money, why in the
hell do I have this used club. It was a
lot of thoughts going in my head. I missed a
stupid bump and run, and so the other club had
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to get thrown. We found it. We did find it.
I mean, I would say it was probably like a
good ten minute search. And then Darby, thankfully like came
Scotty did. Oh that's right. Scotty came barreling out of
the woods with it like held above his head, and
I just thank god. You would have thought that how
the day started, that if that would been the craziest
thing that happened. That wasn't even close. It wasn't even close.
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So we go on to you know, the third hole.
No big deal, everything's great. By the time we get
to the fourth hole, though, Scottie has removed both of
his shoes and his socks and is going to the
tea box to hit his drive. This was very royal
Tenenbombs was his name. Yep, it was a Richie Tenenbomb.
Was very Ritchie Tenenbaum. Scott at this point on the
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fourth hole has decided to give up and uh, it's
just basically in the middle of like pre meltdown, right,
he can't, you know, he's having some trouble. And Scott's
usually a pretty good golfer, he's pretty great, but like,
for whatever reason, he called it early and decided to
just like really get one with the earth and like,
you know, shoes off, socks off, no fox to be
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given right, so you know, it all, it all kept
going right. By the time we get to the fifth hole,
the cart girl has arrived and Scotty has jumped out
of our cart while he was driving. Mind you, he
stopped it in the middle of the fairway because he
sees the cart girl and I'm a passenger and like,
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oh my god, what's happening? And he runs over and
he's like, we need drinks. We need drinks. So he's
like asking, Bright, what do you want to what do
you want? You guys didn't want anything, like you guys
are in pro golfer mode. You're super serious, and I'm like,
I don't know, just get us something. So the next thing,
you know, Scotty has you know, gotten us around of
fireball shots, which he went ahead and bought for all
four of us. Derby doesn't drink. You didn't want anything,
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So Scotty and I have four shots of fireball on hand,
and you know, with the state he was in, we
just we we took him right. Yeah, I didn't really
know what was happening because you know, we're cart number one.
You guys are cart number two and cart number one
are serious golfers who want to golf. Cart number two
is the fucking party train, and not knowing what's happening
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back there, I mean, I don't know if it's the
party train, but like we definitely have a lot more
fun right when we're out there, you guys, because weren't
on having fun. I mean, you guys are so serious.
We're having fun though we're playing all right, all right,
I'm not going to argue with you on this one. Uh,
you know, sixth hole. We make it to the sixth hole.
At this point, like I'm still playing pretty good, right
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like I was doing, Scotty. I don't know what's happening.
It's just like getting worse and worse and worse. Right, So,
like by the sixth hole, we both tee off. We
gotta go find this ball. We're all over the place.
And at this point he's got his three wood in
his hand and he's driving the cart while also trying
to smack the ball with his three wood while driving,
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basically treating our cart like a horse and playing golf
golf cart polo. Um, can I tell you my perspective
on golf cart polo. So we don't know what's happening.
What we see is a whole bunch of doughnuts circles
with Scottie driving you as a passage. You now have
a driver in your hand, Jazz, and you were driving
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by like an equestrian polo, trying to hit off the
paraway with your driver while he's driving golf cart polo.
What the hell happened? Wait a minute, So Scottie did
it first. You didn't see us until I did it. Yes,
and it was him just lapping his ass off circling around.
You guys missed three times. You kept around coming around
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with the fours. Broke his three wood because he went
to hit it so hard and he slammed it in
the side of the of the cart. I just saw
you laugh. I was glad you're having fun, but I
was like, what is happening, Darby? What is what's going on?
In car two? We were having so much fun. Um,
little did I know that as we approached the seventh
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hole and we've calmed down from an unsuccessful game of
golf cart polo. Uh, we go up and the boys
always hit from the tips, so I gotta watch them
take their shots. You hit a beautiful shot, Darby hit
a beautiful shot. He's got his new driver. You guys
hit these straight, gorge his shots right. Scotty's turn. He
gets up there and he takes his shot, and I
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love him to death. I just I love him so much.
But this poor kid is just having the worst day
in the worst round ever. He goes and teas off
and his ball happens to land on the forward tease
and there's no breakfast Bault, there's no mulligan. He just
looks at me, puts his head in his hands, and goes,
let's go to your tea. He's like, I'll hit again. Uh,
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so we go up. I hit my shot. I am
dead in the fairway right like, just straight as it
can be. Can I interject one second? You have also
joined this Scotty cloud and you took off your shoes
and your socks too. Oh yeah, that's right. I felt
like I could support my card partner for life by
also taking off my shoes and my my socks. And
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I also thought, maybe this gives a new, you know,
flair to my game, Like maybe I really connect with
the earth, maybe I really feel balanced. Maybe maybe there's
something to this. It wasn't helping Scott. Do you know
why they make cleats on golf on golf shoes. It's
so you can grip the ground and not bait to
interject here and say that since this day, I have
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now played a couple of more rounds barefoot, and I
have to tell you I love it. I love it
so I'm now barefoot, Scott's now barefoot. His balls on
my tea. I hit a drive that's like the drive
of all drives, and Scotty goes up to hit his
drive and it just hooks right. It just goes somewhere else.
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A hook is left, so laught, so you know, again
deflated and defeated. Scottie and I hop into the cart. Uh,
he's driving, I'm passenger. I'm probably making fun of him
and giving him loads of ship while also trying to
console him. Uh. We head out down the fairway to
go hit our next shot, and we know where my
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ball is at. It's in the middle of the fairway.
His ball, on the other hand, we don't know where
it's at. So Scottie goes barreling across left the fairway.
We go up a hill right, and as soon as
we pop over this hill, thinking that there's going to
be more grass in front of us, there's no grass.
We come up. We we reach this hill and there's
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a giant sand trap. But this is not a normal
sound trap. This is a sand trap that like has
probably like a three and a half to four ft wall,
a three and a half to four ft wall, and
a drop that goes into the sand trap. So we
breached the hill, we go over, Scottie slams on the break.
We're screaming. Both Scott and I are like, oh my god,
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Oh my god. And he stops the cart and I'm talking.
He stops the cart within like probably four inches of
us going over the well the cliff of the sand trap,
so like we stopped the cart. And what's so weird
is that when wean one, we're laughing so fucking hard.
At this point right like we cannot gather ourselves. We're
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in complete shock that we've popped over this hill, that
we've almost gone into the sand trap, but somehow not
gone into the sand trap. And as we're hysterically laughing,
we're like look at each other and we're yelling at
each other. And he's like, I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna do this, and I'm like no, no, no, and
he's like I'm just gonna turns. He turns the wheels
and I reach out and I'm like no, Scott, like,
I think he just wanted to go straight and like
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go ahead and go into the sand trap, like he
felt like that was the best decision. I felt that
the best decision was throwing this bitch in reverse and
backing up so that we could take a better turn
at things and really reassess this bottom line. There was
enough time of us sitting six inches from the cliff
for us to have collected ourselves and probably made better decisions.
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But for whatever reason, I reach out, I throw it
in reverse. Scott slams on the gas and because he's
turned the wheel, he looks over his other shoulder, thinking
he's gonna go one way, and it goes the complete
opposite way. It goes to the right. The cart starts
to tip. I fall out of the cart into the
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sand trap. I'm screaming. The cart comes own on top
of me. I'm somehow in the negative space of this
cart where the entire cart comes down. I did not
get crushed. I did not lose a limb. I I
am not hurt. Scottie's body comes falling down on top
of me, because you know, I'm in the sand now
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it's Scotty's body on top of me, and there's a
cart around us. Now, I'm telling you, there's beers, there's fireballs,
there's water. There's a cooler that has ice in it.
There's all kinds of stuff. I stand up and realize
that I'm not hurt, and I am covered head to
toe in dirt, sand, water, beer, fireball, you name it. It
It was in our cart. It is on me. I
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stand up out of this realizing what has happened. I'm
in complete shock. I look like I've just been birthed
out of the womb. There's it was. It was insane,
right I Scotty Scottie ends up like climbing out of
the cart. I have to climb out over the roof.
You come running up and you are absolutely freaked out.
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This is what we call a cartastrophe. Just my perspective
was the craziest. Darby and I see you guys in
front of us go up this hill, kind of disappear
like you're going in the horizon. We see you there
for a brief second, we can't really see what's happening.
And then gravity or whatever pulls you guys to the
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right and we see the car disappear, and all I
can think is holy ship. Jesse is on the passenger side.
That cart just killed her. We thought you were dead.
We drive up there, we're freaking out. What we come
to see is a goddamn yard cell of everything in
the car in the sand trap, balls, gloves, drinks, shoes, shoes,
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you didn't have shoes on. You emerge out of the car,
like you said, like a baby being born, going sand
all over I mean, sand, water, your hair. We don't
know where Scotty is. This was the craziest site for
us to see. It was scary, it was terrifying. I
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will say this. I jumped out of the roof of
the like over the roof of the cart, and you're
like you kept asking me questions like you were trying
to ensure that I was okay. I was in such
shock a from like the hit that I took right,
but I was completely shocked that Like I just kept
looking at my hands and my legs and thinking, like
how the fuck did I not get hit or crushed
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in this situation. I mean, this was a three ft
drop into the sand. Cart comes down on top of us,
cart is on its side, their ship everywhere like you
guys are picking it up. I'm on, I'm laying on
the side of the hill at this point, just like
in disbelief. I get a couple of pictures and videos
of this um Darby is kind of narrating what's going on.
I'm shaking, I'm filled with adrenaline. Scotty's head down in
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the sand trap trying to clean up with you. I
thought you might kill Scotty at one point. Well, Scotty
then tried to unilaterally on his own, lift the cart
out of the sand. He could not do it. Darby
and I come run over. We all three lift the
damn cart out of the sand, try to get it
out of the sand. And now it's like clean up duty.
It was. It was insane, right, I don't know how
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we somehow we got everything put back, We got everything together.
Nothing was broken. I wasn't broken, Scotty wasn't broken, the
cart wasn't broken. We were covered and ship we put
it was nuts. So after cleaning all this stuff up,
I did let um uh, Scotty. Wait a minute, Wait
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a minute, So I do remember this. This is just
now come back to me. As I'm sitting there and
you guys have gotten the cart back up right, and
you guys are cleaning up, and I'm still on the
hill trying to come to terms with what has just happened.
You run over to the cart and you grab the
driver that you would let Scotty borrow, and you rip
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it out of his bag and you're like, you don't
get to use this anymore, and you took it. You
told him he lost his privileges. So it was a
little bit of a selfish act on my part. Yes,
I helped clean everything up, but I got this callaway
rogue max d driver for Scotty because he kept slicing
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the ball. I let him try it out. I was
very concerned with the condition of that club that I
let him borrow, so I did take it out of
the bag after all this and took it away from you.
Took it away from him, told him he lost his privileges,
and then looked him square in the eye and was like,
you were banned from driving the golf cart. So we
gather ourselves, we get back in the golf cart, and
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I mean, it's just the topic of conversation for the
whole rest of the day, right is how the funk
are Scotty and I are not dead and we pull
it together. I don't remember what happened on the next hole.
I have no recollection at this point, not because of
drinking and not be because of anything else other than
I was just still in complete shock and adrenaline overload.
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But we then did make it to what the ninth hole,
the ninth hole, the ninth hole. So you got Darby
and I. All we want to do is continue golfing. Yes,
we care about your well being. You guys were okay,
a little shooken up, but you guys are so shell
shocked that you guys were not even there on the
eighth hole. Then you guys come up with this cock
and made me idea to do a tandem drive drive together,
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you and Scotty. Yeah, so we go to the tips.
It's kind of an elevated area and so you've got
a really great view in Scotting. You're like, well, shut
let's go line it up and let's do a tandem
drive and we'll have the boys video it. So you
guys are videoing Scottie and I. We call it one
to three. We pull back, wind up and take our
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shot and I don't know what happens, but I come
down in My angle of attack is so wrong that
the next thing you see is my ball cut and
slice completely right, and miss scottis head about I don't know,
six inches right, like his his shot was actually really good.
I almost killed him. We dropped to our knees. The
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whole video is on slow is in slow motion. You
can find it on our Instagram and TikTok if you're
so enthralled to see this. Uh so, then I about
killed my cart life, my cart partner, my cart buddy
for life. This was it was complete debauchers And then
you continued on almost killed him. I don't what was happening.
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You know the fact that like you misbehaved so badly
at the beginning of this what we thought was going
to be a normal round and through your club into
the middle of the woods. The fact that like that
completely gets glossed over because of everything that then happened
next is just beyond me. I mean, like we're a
couple of weeks out now, it's been like what I
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guess we're coming on week two. Like Scotty is still
pretty bruised. I still have bruises on my arm. Uh
you know, we're okay. Scottie is not ever allowed to
drive if um, I have to be the driver and
the cart partner for life. But I just you know,
we keep having all these cart issues. We had Robo
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Dick chase us. Now we have cartastrophe. Yeah, and I
guess there's no better way to close out the rest
of this episode than to talk more about carts and
talk to a card girl. Yeah. So we're gonna take
a break and when we come back, we're going to
talk to a cargo from our club, Sand Canyon. All right,
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So we're back and now we're talking more about carts
with our favorite cart girl, Megan. She is over at
Sand Canyon with us. We run into her all the time,
and we have her on the show today. Very special guests.
Hi Megan, Hi, how are you guys? We're doing awesome.
You look gorgeous as ever. Well, thank you and thank
you for having me of course. So can you tell
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us why you became a card girl? Yeah? So, um.
I was scrolling through TikTok one day. I found this girl,
Cass Holland, who is also a card girl, and it
just seems so fun. I started scrolling through her page
and I was like, that looks like a job that
I could do, and it seemed pretty easy, and I
decided to start applying for different jobs. I found Sand Canyon,
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got an interview the next day, and then now here
we are. I love that, we love seeing you at
San Canyon. How old are you, Megan, I'm just turned seven,
Happy birthday birthday. So there are other card girls as
everyone around that age. Yeah, so, um, we have a
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couple other car girls are both twenty three, and then
we had one that just left. She was twenty six.
So I'm a bit on the older end, but yeah,
I guess we're all on our twenties. So what you're
saying as I'm too old to be a car no, no, no,
no no. I mean out of out of the girls
that I work with at least, but I've seen car girls.
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I was in Palm Springs recently and I saw car girls.
She was probably like, I want to say, like late fifties.
It seemed like, oh I love that. I love that. Yeah, yeah,
this seems like the funnest job in the world. How
do you like it? I honestly love it. I love
the people I encounter. I love being able to work independently.
I'm not gonna lie. I love the tips that it
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comes with, I love the food, and I love the
country club that I work at. So honestly, it's truly
the best and easiest job that I've ever had. I
love that. So, speaking of tips, what's the biggest tip
that you've ever gotten on the golf course? So? I
received a seventy five dollar tip on a twenty dollar
tab and I didn't even make them drinks. I was
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just handing them beers. So it's very very generous of them.
That is generous. What would you say is the craziest
thing that you've encountered so far in your career as
a cart girl? So one time I pulled up to
this group of four golfers. They all had matching shirts on.
They were like, look like Hawaiian shirts and stuff. And
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this one guy, he just doesn't say anything. He just
comes up and sits next to me in the cart,
stares at me in the face, and he asked me
if I have a boyfriend, and I said, yes, I
do have a boyfriend. And he said, well, what's the
nicest trip he's ever taken you on? And I said, well,
we have. We have been in Hawaii and it was
like beautiful and he was like, oh my gosh, Hawaii,
Like I would take you to mek A Nose and um,
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I just kind of laughed it off. I was like okay, yeah, whatever,
and then um, he was like, oh, do you want
to take a shot with us? And I was like, oh, yeah, sure,
why not. So um they ordered fireball shots and then
they bought me one as well, and then, um, they
kind of did take up a lot of my time.
I'm not gonna I was probably hanging out with them
for about like fifteen minutes, which is quite a bit
for um, you know, just some shots. And he didn't
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tip me. I can't believe he didn't tip me after
he told me he would take me to mek a Nose.
I think those guys are Yeah, I think you do too. Yeah,
And they were all like belligerently drunk, right, So um
and that was that. So I left them, and then um,
I I catch I caught the one guy who told
me he would take me to mek a Nose later
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talking to another cart girl and he was totally like
hitting on her, trying to get her number and all that,
and she was just not having it. And then, um,
so at the end of my shift, I'm driving home
and then I see their car pulled over on the
side of the road and they're all shotgunning beers and
I'm like what are they doing. They should not be
drinking and driving. But yeah, they think they just wanted
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a party. I don't think they wanted to golf. I
think they're just trying to get lit. There is a
golden rule, and I'm sure you know it for us
golfers to never pick up on the golf cart girl
and not to be creepy. How the golden rule though,
like it's an unwritten rule, unwritten rule that nobody follows.
How has that happened to you? It happens. I can't
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lie every shift. Um, whether it's someone just saying, oh,
like you're so pretty much you know it's nice, I'll
say thank you, of course, or if it's to the
extreme where it's like, um, oh, let me get your number.
Oh if I if I make a hole in one,
can I take you out? Or something like that, um,
which never happens. But yeah, no it happens, but for me, like,
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I don't mind it as long as you're respectful. You know,
we are under the impression that you're very um impressed
when you come up to the tea and you see
our t shot and I want to clarify we to
be the men on the course or under the impression
that they think Kurt girls really want to see them
hit bombs and that they're super impressed when they do so,
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So could you clarify that, Forest Megan. I I love
to see a good shot. I love it, um, But
oftentimes I will also like look away and pretend I'm
not paying attention because I don't want to like throw
their game off or anything. And some guys will say
that they get nervous, and you know, I want to
be respectful of that. So, um, but if I see
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a good shot and I'll say I was like, oh,
that was a good ball, you know, But I can't
say that I'm there for that or that I am
like looking forward to it. But if I see it,
I appreciate it, and um, I mean it's fun, it's
fun to see. Does that make you feel better? Right?
Are you a golfer? Do you golf? Yeah? So I
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just started, um about seven months ago. I want to say,
my boyfriend bought me my first set of clubs, but
they are junior clubs, so they're meant for kids because
I am a shorty. But yeah, so I can't say
that I you know, I don't play all the time,
but I want to first. I want to get into
it nice and slowly, and you know, first like perfect
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my swing and understand what clubs to use for what shots,
because I mean before like I was never interested in
golf just because I mean honestly, from the outside, it
looked boring to me. In the first time I was
ever on a golf course, it was not a pleasant
experience because I was having some stomach issues. If you
know what I mean, Brian, I really knows what you mean. Yeah,
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so um And I had no clue that when you golf,
you're out there for like what six hours? So I
you know, I was having my stomach issues. I was
running back and forth from each hole to the bathroom
and I was like, this is a nightmare. But you know, no, yeah,
I love it. I love that it's challenging. I love
that you could always improve um and I love the
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community surrounding golf. Have you ever gotten any advice from
a golfer on how to make more tips or is
there any strategies that you have now that you figured out?
So I was told once from a golfer named Victor
that I will get a lot of tips if I
to trash chalk the golfers and talk about how shitty
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their swing was, and I somewhat did put it to
the test one time. UM with this these group of guys,
they were really cool and they're the type that you
can choke around with and stuff. And this guy totally
just missed the ball and I was like, I said
something along the lines of like, um, oh, you should
try that again because it really sucked or something like that.
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I don't remember what exactly I said, but it made
them laugh and then you know it, Um it was.
It was a good time and they did tip me well,
So I wonder if it was due to my trash
talking or not. But I didn't go too hard because
I want to learn some more of the terminology first,
so I actually know what I'm talking about before I
do some of that trash talking talking about terminology. Do
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you know what, Um, A shot is called dick out?
Do you know what that is? No, I've never heard
of that. What is that? So? Dick out is when
you go to tea off and typically the guys are
playing much further back right and when they go to
tea off and they hit their shot and it doesn't
make it past the women's tease. We call it a
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dick out, which means they're supposed to then take their
dick out and play the rest of the whole. There's
some terminology for you. The next time you see somebody
not hit it past the girl teas, then you need
to trash talk him and tell them that you know,
that's a dick out shot if I ever saw one.
But I guess you have to be careful, Megan, because
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coming from the car girl, I'm sure that they would
do it. They would do it, so be careful, be
careful exactly. Oh my god, that's hilarious. Dick out. Has
anyone actually ever done that? Yes, Oh my god, that's
pretty funny. I've seen a lot of I've seen a
lot of gentlemen p on the golf course, that's for sure, right, Yeah,
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we see that too. Part of nature, I mean, I guess,
but like there's guys who go and hide in the bushes,
and then there's the guys that like just straight up
on the fairway and that I've seen a lot of.
M h yeah, I saw that three times my last shift.
Three times I saw guys peeing. So that was fun.
So what's what's something that um when you drive up
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to a golfer that, um, that is some kind of
confusion whether or not they want to drink or do
they always get a drink? How often does that happen? Um?
I would say about eight out of ten times people
want to drink. UM. However, it can't get confusing because
sometimes you're further away and um, you don't want to
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interrupt them, but you want to know if they want
to drink. So what I like to do. I like
to like do a thumbs up and be like are
we good? Like as in like if you give me
a thumbs back thumbs up back, it means okay, we're good,
we don't need anything to drink. But if you give
me a signal like that's like waving your hand like
come over here, that's when I know, okay, they want
something to drink. So I feel like there's got to
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be a better way to be to do this, Like
what what do you think we should do here? How
do we make this more direct for you? UM? I
would say, the thumbs up means no, thank you, and
then the hand signal means or yeah, like the come
here means like we're thirsty, we want to drink. UM,
but I think there should be it like a better way.
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And I have an idea. You can have a sign
Magan that says like drink yes, no, and you can
turn it back and forth. It's like smiley face, sad
face face. It should be loud, it should have like
be dazzled glitter all that on it, and that way
(32:38):
there's like no confusion because again you're dealing with people
who have requests to you know, children out there basically,
so you know, you've got to do something to make
it easier. Something I think around to something too. Yeah,
that's honestly genius. I want to do that. I want
to make a sign now, So thank you for that idea.
What are what are like, you know, in your time
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you're driving around, what are some of the funny things
that you see golfers do? Um, some funny things I've seen,
I guess some funny things. I mean, I like how
they mess around with each other and they'll call each
other like dickheads and stuff, which is pretty funny. Um.
But besides that, I mean, oh, one thing I have
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noticed is that noise carries on the golf course. So um,
you know, I could hear what someone saying from very
very far away. And one thing that I thought was
funny was there's this guy. He always buys modelos for
me and I. I had driven off right and I
think he thought I was like a way gone or
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something and that I couldn't hear him. But he told
his friend He's like, he's like, oh my gosh, she's
so beautiful. I should have gotten her number. But I
just I just thought it was funny because he had
no clue I could hear him. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
I could hear pretty much everything out there. To be careful,
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would you say, how is the treatment from um, girls
golfers who are golfing with you versus guys? How how
how's the interaction between that exchange different. So I've been
lucky to encounter nothing but like really sweet female golfers. Um. However,
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I do notice that they do um. They do either
you know, they don't want to like start up a
conversation as much as the males do. They either you know,
they want to drink and they want, you know, to
just get on with their golf or um, they don't
want anything and you know, which is obviously fine. But
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I do notice they won't strike up a conversation like
the males do. So I would say that's the biggest difference.
But honestly, they're all so lovely, like I've been lucky
to only have encountered such wonderful woman out there. Did
you ever date a golfer? I would, and I am
dating a golfer. Awesome. I hope there's hope. What you're
(35:13):
saying is there's a chance there is. Did you meet
him as a card girl? No, I didn't. We met
in college. Actually I sat next to him in a
class and I decided to tweet about him, and I
didn't know he followed me on Twitter, so he saw
the tweet and then the rest is history. Oh I
love that. Isn't that funny? But now it just took
(35:38):
away my hope because the pickup line the card girl
didn't work. The pickup plane, it's not gonna work. No,
you can't really date a card girl. Then, well, there
was one time you told Maxine that she had a
nice physique. Oh my gosh, I heard that episode. That
was funny. Thank you, by the way for listening to
our episodes. You are like our you know, every time
(35:59):
we run in to Megan at the golf course, she
runs up and says, oh my god, I just listened
to such in such episode and I loved it. We
love it so much. Is there any best friend I
have a question for you, Megan. Yeah, you've got a
platform here to be able to say anything you want
to all those golfers out there that you might not
be able to say to their face. So what is
it that you want to say to the gentleman out
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there that you encounter on the golf course. Probably if
you're going to be creepy, just don't say what you're
gonna say. But if you're going to be respectful, like
by all means, like I would love to talk to you.
It makes my shift go by faster. But yeah, if
you're going to say anything inappropriate, just don't say it
at all, because chances are it's disgusting and it's just
gonna make me think that you're a creep What's the
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most what's the most inappropriate thing that's been said to
you out there? So? Actually, um, this old fart told
me that I would make more tips if I was
out there topless, and it just caught me off guard
so much that, like, I am not one to like
just brush something like that off. But because I was
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working and it just caught me by surprise, I just
awkwardly laughed and I said something like, oh no, like
that wouldn't be good or some random thing like that.
But yeah, that was probably the most disgusting thing I've until,
especially because he was so old to like this guy
like he walks slow, right, so it's like I don't
even know if his dick works at this point. Sloppy golfer. Yeah,
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telling Megan to be topless. Yeah, grow wrong with people?
Men have no filter on the golf course. I just
don't understand. It's like they might have a filter out
in the real world, but man, you put them on
the golf course and they regrets to something that. Like,
it's just it's like a five year old element. We're
in an element. We're comfortable, We're with their boys. A
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really pretty gorgeous cart girl comes around. Come on, you
guys gotta have a spect Yeah. Well, Megan, we're so
happy that you came on today. Thank you so much
for joining us. We loved having you on. We love
running into your favorite card girl. And uh, we hope
they will come back and talk to us again. I
we know that social media. Is there any way that
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um any fans or people listening can find you? Where
where can they find you? Yeah? So on Instagram, my
user name is Megan Rocca m E g A N
N R O c A. And then on TikTok, which
is my favorite, by the way, is Megan Rocca with
M E g A N R O c A. No
two ends or anything like that. But yeah, give me
(38:40):
a follow, I'll follow you back. Awesome. Well, everybody can
find Megan there, and we're going to have you back
soon to give us an update on card girl life.
I can't wait, and I'll probably have some more stories
for you too by then. For sure, we're going to
take a break and when we come back, we'll be
back with some Mulgan's. All right, thanks Megan, Thank you guys. Okay, Jess,
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I have a mulligan. Okay. So it's kind of an update. So,
as we said in this episode about my um my
hammer throw wedge sixty degree PhD into the forest, I
figured out a um I figured out a solution it is.
I bought a chipper, a chipper, so Pin just came
(39:29):
out with a chipper. It's getting all the rave right
now and um, I looked at it and I didn't
get the pink chipper. I got the Cleveland Smart Soul
for Satin chipper, and it has changed my entire game.
I have played four rounds with it now and it
is incredible. Um it is a putter and a wedge
(39:53):
in one, so you just use a putting stroke and
you can do bumping runs. You can even hit from
a hundred yards. The loft of the chipper is forty
three degree, so it's right in between a nine and
a pitching wedge. It has a lie angle of sixty six,
so it's more like a regular club, and the length
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of it is thirty four inch, so it's like a putter.
UM Ping's had a lie angle of seventy degrees so
it was more upright, and I didn't like that. So
I now got this Cleveland Smart Soul for chipper. I'm
hitting everything with it and I'm so excited about it.
And um, there's no shame in using a chipper. In fact,
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we played in Sino Hole eighteen. I eagled from thirty
feet away with my chipper. It's in for life. I
I gotta say, I was there and you've been talking
about this chipper NonStop, so much that I'm like, can
you please stop talking about the chipper? Seeing you play
it in sino An Eagle the eighteenth hole from a
hundred yards out was sick. It was so amazing. Kudos
(41:00):
to you, you fucking rock. You're You're my hero. It
was incredible. Thank you. Yeah, so the chipper is in
the bag for life? Yeah? Would you get rid of
In order to keep that in your bag? I had
to take out my p x G seven wood and
then I got a new Stealth d h Y driving
Hybrid three. It's a three driving irons, so I had
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to take out my ping seven. What. I'm kind of
bummed about it, but so far, so good. Okay, all right, Well,
I guess my muligan this week is got to be
regarding my cart partner for a life. Uh, Scottie, you
are forever banned from driving the golf cart from here
on out. I am happy to still be your cart
partner for life and remain your best friend. However, you
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are not allowed to drive ever again. Okay, Ever, I
love you to death. Uh, but I just don't know
how we made it out of that one. I just
I really don't as always. We love playing with the boys.
As always, Babe, I love playing with you. Thanks for
golfing with me. Thank you. Where can they find us?
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You're listening to Balls and Holes, Jessica Bows and Brian
past Room. Baby, we're back. Hi. How are you good?
So we had an exciting week? Yes we did. I've
got some updates for everybody. Well I broke eight. Oh yeah,
hell are yeah? Congratulations baby, thank you? It was amazing, right, Yes,
(00:25):
I was there. You were there. Uh. You and I
had not played together for a while, and uh we
finally got out together, and I had no idea that
this was going to happen, and it was amazing. Yes,
you did it. You skimmed by with the seventy nine,
but it's still breaking eighty. I don't know that I
appreciate the skimmed by, and I do want to note
for our listeners that I was at a solid seventy
(00:47):
seven up until the seventeenth, actually the eighteenth hole, where
I then Scottie Scheffler masters moment on the green and
I end up three putting, which I had not taken
a double bogie in my entire round. I think I
had like a EVN Pars that game. Took a double
bogie on the last hole. Uh, to close it out
at a seventy nine. I did it. I broke a
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d I know what a glorious moment you're two over
on the front nine. And I didn't want to tell
you because I don't want to make you nervous. But
you knew the score card. I did. I knew it.
How that makes you feel on the back night, Well,
it was funny. The front nine was totally awesome, and
I was like, oh, this feels great, and oh, I
guess I'm doing this And I really wasn't even going
for like I have a shot at this today, I
(01:28):
will say when we finished out the front nine and
I really realized how good of a standing I was in,
I had this moment of like do I eat? Do
I even go to the bathroom? Do I change anything? Like?
What do I do? And every other shot there forward
on the back nine was absolutely anxiety inducing. It was
like a panic attack at every shot because I knew
(01:48):
I had a shot and I could feel it in
my bones I was going to do it. I was
really tense. It was kind of horrible. So now you
know what a golfer feels like. That's a true feeling
of a golfer. Well, like the first thing you said
to me was like, now you know you can do it,
you're gonna want to do it again, And like my
first thought was like, yeah, now I know I can
do it, and I don't even give a ship if
I do it again, because that was so difficult and
(02:09):
like so like it was just so anxiety. Do we
have so much more respect for PGA tour players? Oh
my god, to do that all day long for money
in front of everybody, and you had to do it
between you and I. I mean I remember making fun
of Shuffler at the Masters when he ended up three
puttying at the end and still winning. And I now
have such like what's the word appreciation and empathy for that,
(02:34):
because I mean, here it is. I was just with you,
and I knew how close I was and I was shaking.
Welcome to the seventies club, babe, Thank you baby. That
took me eight games. I started in January. I played
ninety eight games in a row. I started at in
the triple digits. My scores were in the triple digits,
(02:54):
and I have like gotten down and gotten down and
here I am seventy nine. So I have an update
that was I have a new update. We have previously
mentioned my cart buddy for life, Mr Scott and um
we all went out last week and uh played a
(03:17):
new course. We played a new course. It was beautiful.
It was such a beautiful course, right, it was not
at all anything that we're used to. And we decided
again that since Scotty and I are part you know,
cart partners for life, that you and Derby would ride
together and Scott and I would ride together. And you know,
it started off as a normal day. I uh we
(03:37):
we carved it up. We had it out. First hole
went great, everybody was happy to be there. I'm not
really sure what happened at the second hole, because Scott
and I were kind of doing our own thing and
you and Derby were doing yours. But as we made
it down the fairway and towards the green, I remember
looking over and you kind of like shot me a
look and you were like, did you see that? And
(03:57):
I thought you meant did I see your shot, to
which I come completely lied and was like, yeah, it
was great. Yeah. So what happened, Uh, I was looking
at you to see if you saw me javelin throw
my six d degree wedge into the forest, right, So
I did not see this. And as we approached the
green and got closer, I could tell that you were
really piste off and I didn't understand why, and I
(04:18):
just kept trying to like play the like cool guy.
And all of a sudden, like you're well, all of
a sudden, Scotty and I are standing there. Scotty doesn't
realize what's going on either, and we hear this like
rustling in the bushes, and it was so much that
like Scott and I both stopped dead in our tracks,
looked at each other, grabbed each other's arms, and were like,
what in God's name is in those bushes? We thought
it was a bear or something because we were kind
(04:39):
of in some like wooded area, and lo and behold,
it was no bear. It was Brian looking for his club.
So next thing you know, Brian Derby, Scott and I
are deep in the woods looking for this club that
he has thrown so far, and all I can think
is I'm going through this is like, oh my God,
like we have to find this club. If we don't
find this club, I'm gonna get dry back to this
(05:00):
exact spot after this round is over, and we're going
to be like deep in the woods searching for this
stupid club that my beautiful husband has lost his temper
and thrown until we find it. I want to make
one You're right about all that. I want to make
one clarification. I did not javelin throw it. I did
a hammer throw. It was a hammer. It was a
hammer throw. I didn't like throw it like a and
uh yeah, because it's a whole long story, but it
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ends up with um me buying a chipper and because
I didn't my six D degree wedge. And also it's
I bought this p h G wedge that was used
and it had some scuff marks in it. I'm like,
I have so much Roger Dune money, why in the
hell do I have this used club. It was a
lot of thoughts going in my head. I missed a
stupid bump and run, and so the other club had
(05:42):
to get thrown. We found it. We did find it.
I mean, I would say it was probably like a
good ten minute search. And then Darby, thankfully like came
Scotty did. Oh that's right. Scotty came barreling out of
the woods with it like held above his head, and
I just thank god. You would have thought that how
the day started, that if that would been the craziest
thing that happened. That wasn't even close. It wasn't even close.
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So we go on to you know, the third hole.
No big deal, everything's great. By the time we get
to the fourth hole, though, Scottie has removed both of
his shoes and his socks and is going to the
tea box to hit his drive. This was very royal
Tenenbombs was his name. Yep, it was a Richie Tenenbomb.
Was very Ritchie Tenenbaum. Scott at this point on the
(06:27):
fourth hole has decided to give up and uh, it's
just basically in the middle of like pre meltdown, right,
he can't, you know, he's having some trouble. And Scott's
usually a pretty good golfer, he's pretty great, but like,
for whatever reason, he called it early and decided to
just like really get one with the earth and like,
you know, shoes off, socks off, no fox to be
(06:48):
given right, so you know, it all, it all kept
going right. By the time we get to the fifth hole,
the cart girl has arrived and Scotty has jumped out
of our cart while he was driving. Mind you, he
stopped it in the middle of the fairway because he
sees the cart girl and I'm a passenger and like,
(07:09):
oh my god, what's happening? And he runs over and
he's like, we need drinks. We need drinks. So he's
like asking, Bright, what do you want to what do
you want? You guys didn't want anything, like you guys
are in pro golfer mode. You're super serious, and I'm like,
I don't know, just get us something. So the next thing,
you know, Scotty has you know, gotten us around of
fireball shots, which he went ahead and bought for all
four of us. Derby doesn't drink. You didn't want anything,
(07:32):
So Scotty and I have four shots of fireball on hand,
and you know, with the state he was in, we
just we we took him right. Yeah, I didn't really
know what was happening because you know, we're cart number one.
You guys are cart number two and cart number one
are serious golfers who want to golf. Cart number two
is the fucking party train, and not knowing what's happening
(07:52):
back there, I mean, I don't know if it's the
party train, but like we definitely have a lot more
fun right when we're out there, you guys, because weren't
on having fun. I mean, you guys are so serious.
We're having fun though we're playing all right, all right,
I'm not going to argue with you on this one. Uh,
you know, sixth hole. We make it to the sixth hole.
At this point, like I'm still playing pretty good, right
(08:14):
like I was doing, Scotty. I don't know what's happening.
It's just like getting worse and worse and worse. Right, So,
like by the sixth hole, we both tee off. We
gotta go find this ball. We're all over the place.
And at this point he's got his three wood in
his hand and he's driving the cart while also trying
to smack the ball with his three wood while driving,
(08:37):
basically treating our cart like a horse and playing golf
golf cart polo. Um, can I tell you my perspective
on golf cart polo. So we don't know what's happening.
What we see is a whole bunch of doughnuts circles
with Scottie driving you as a passage. You now have
a driver in your hand, Jazz, and you were driving
(08:59):
by like an equestrian polo, trying to hit off the
paraway with your driver while he's driving golf cart polo.
What the hell happened? Wait a minute, So Scottie did
it first. You didn't see us until I did it. Yes,
and it was him just lapping his ass off circling around.
You guys missed three times. You kept around coming around
(09:21):
with the fours. Broke his three wood because he went
to hit it so hard and he slammed it in
the side of the of the cart. I just saw
you laugh. I was glad you're having fun, but I
was like, what is happening, Darby? What is what's going on?
In car two? We were having so much fun. Um,
little did I know that as we approached the seventh
(09:42):
hole and we've calmed down from an unsuccessful game of
golf cart polo. Uh, we go up and the boys
always hit from the tips, so I gotta watch them
take their shots. You hit a beautiful shot, Darby hit
a beautiful shot. He's got his new driver. You guys
hit these straight, gorge his shots right. Scotty's turn. He
gets up there and he takes his shot, and I
(10:05):
love him to death. I just I love him so much.
But this poor kid is just having the worst day
in the worst round ever. He goes and teas off
and his ball happens to land on the forward tease
and there's no breakfast Bault, there's no mulligan. He just
looks at me, puts his head in his hands, and goes,
let's go to your tea. He's like, I'll hit again. Uh,
(10:26):
so we go up. I hit my shot. I am
dead in the fairway right like, just straight as it
can be. Can I interject one second? You have also
joined this Scotty cloud and you took off your shoes
and your socks too. Oh yeah, that's right. I felt
like I could support my card partner for life by
also taking off my shoes and my my socks. And
(10:46):
I also thought, maybe this gives a new, you know,
flair to my game, Like maybe I really connect with
the earth, maybe I really feel balanced. Maybe maybe there's
something to this. It wasn't helping Scott. Do you know
why they make cleats on golf on golf shoes. It's
so you can grip the ground and not bait to
interject here and say that since this day, I have
(11:06):
now played a couple of more rounds barefoot, and I
have to tell you I love it. I love it
so I'm now barefoot, Scott's now barefoot. His balls on
my tea. I hit a drive that's like the drive
of all drives, and Scotty goes up to hit his
drive and it just hooks right. It just goes somewhere else.
(11:26):
A hook is left, so laught, so you know, again
deflated and defeated. Scottie and I hop into the cart. Uh,
he's driving, I'm passenger. I'm probably making fun of him
and giving him loads of ship while also trying to
console him. Uh. We head out down the fairway to
go hit our next shot, and we know where my
(11:48):
ball is at. It's in the middle of the fairway.
His ball, on the other hand, we don't know where
it's at. So Scottie goes barreling across left the fairway.
We go up a hill right, and as soon as
we pop over this hill, thinking that there's going to
be more grass in front of us, there's no grass.
We come up. We we reach this hill and there's
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a giant sand trap. But this is not a normal
sound trap. This is a sand trap that like has
probably like a three and a half to four ft wall,
a three and a half to four ft wall, and
a drop that goes into the sand trap. So we
breached the hill, we go over, Scottie slams on the break.
We're screaming. Both Scott and I are like, oh my god,
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Oh my god. And he stops the cart and I'm talking.
He stops the cart within like probably four inches of
us going over the well the cliff of the sand trap,
so like we stopped the cart. And what's so weird
is that when wean one, we're laughing so fucking hard.
At this point right like we cannot gather ourselves. We're
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in complete shock that we've popped over this hill, that
we've almost gone into the sand trap, but somehow not
gone into the sand trap. And as we're hysterically laughing,
we're like look at each other and we're yelling at
each other. And he's like, I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna do this, and I'm like no, no, no, and
he's like I'm just gonna turns. He turns the wheels
and I reach out and I'm like no, Scott, like,
I think he just wanted to go straight and like
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go ahead and go into the sand trap, like he
felt like that was the best decision. I felt that
the best decision was throwing this bitch in reverse and
backing up so that we could take a better turn
at things and really reassess this bottom line. There was
enough time of us sitting six inches from the cliff
for us to have collected ourselves and probably made better decisions.
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But for whatever reason, I reach out, I throw it
in reverse. Scott slams on the gas and because he's
turned the wheel, he looks over his other shoulder, thinking
he's gonna go one way, and it goes the complete
opposite way. It goes to the right. The cart starts
to tip. I fall out of the cart into the
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sand trap. I'm screaming. The cart comes own on top
of me. I'm somehow in the negative space of this
cart where the entire cart comes down. I did not
get crushed. I did not lose a limb. I I
am not hurt. Scottie's body comes falling down on top
of me, because you know, I'm in the sand now
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it's Scotty's body on top of me, and there's a
cart around us. Now, I'm telling you, there's beers, there's fireballs,
there's water. There's a cooler that has ice in it.
There's all kinds of stuff. I stand up and realize
that I'm not hurt, and I am covered head to
toe in dirt, sand, water, beer, fireball, you name it. It
It was in our cart. It is on me. I
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stand up out of this realizing what has happened. I'm
in complete shock. I look like I've just been birthed
out of the womb. There's it was. It was insane,
right I Scotty Scottie ends up like climbing out of
the cart. I have to climb out over the roof.
You come running up and you are absolutely freaked out.
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This is what we call a cartastrophe. Just my perspective
was the craziest. Darby and I see you guys in
front of us go up this hill, kind of disappear
like you're going in the horizon. We see you there
for a brief second, we can't really see what's happening.
And then gravity or whatever pulls you guys to the
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right and we see the car disappear, and all I
can think is holy ship. Jesse is on the passenger side.
That cart just killed her. We thought you were dead.
We drive up there, we're freaking out. What we come
to see is a goddamn yard cell of everything in
the car in the sand trap, balls, gloves, drinks, shoes, shoes,
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you didn't have shoes on. You emerge out of the car,
like you said, like a baby being born, going sand
all over I mean, sand, water, your hair. We don't
know where Scotty is. This was the craziest site for
us to see. It was scary, it was terrifying. I
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will say this. I jumped out of the roof of
the like over the roof of the cart, and you're
like you kept asking me questions like you were trying
to ensure that I was okay. I was in such
shock a from like the hit that I took right,
but I was completely shocked that Like I just kept
looking at my hands and my legs and thinking, like
how the fuck did I not get hit or crushed
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in this situation. I mean, this was a three ft
drop into the sand. Cart comes down on top of us,
cart is on its side, their ship everywhere like you
guys are picking it up. I'm on, I'm laying on
the side of the hill at this point, just like
in disbelief. I get a couple of pictures and videos
of this um Darby is kind of narrating what's going on.
I'm shaking, I'm filled with adrenaline. Scotty's head down in
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the sand trap trying to clean up with you. I
thought you might kill Scotty at one point. Well, Scotty
then tried to unilaterally on his own, lift the cart
out of the sand. He could not do it. Darby
and I come run over. We all three lift the
damn cart out of the sand, try to get it
out of the sand. And now it's like clean up duty.
It was. It was insane, right, I don't know how
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we somehow we got everything put back, We got everything together.
Nothing was broken. I wasn't broken, Scotty wasn't broken, the
cart wasn't broken. We were covered and ship we put
it was nuts. So after cleaning all this stuff up,
I did let um uh, Scotty. Wait a minute, Wait
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a minute, So I do remember this. This is just
now come back to me. As I'm sitting there and
you guys have gotten the cart back up right, and
you guys are cleaning up, and I'm still on the
hill trying to come to terms with what has just happened.
You run over to the cart and you grab the
driver that you would let Scotty borrow, and you rip
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it out of his bag and you're like, you don't
get to use this anymore, and you took it. You
told him he lost his privileges. So it was a
little bit of a selfish act on my part. Yes,
I helped clean everything up, but I got this callaway
rogue max d driver for Scotty because he kept slicing
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the ball. I let him try it out. I was
very concerned with the condition of that club that I
let him borrow, so I did take it out of
the bag after all this and took it away from you.
Took it away from him, told him he lost his privileges,
and then looked him square in the eye and was like,
you were banned from driving the golf cart. So we
gather ourselves, we get back in the golf cart, and
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I mean, it's just the topic of conversation for the
whole rest of the day, right is how the funk
are Scotty and I are not dead and we pull
it together. I don't remember what happened on the next hole.
I have no recollection at this point, not because of
drinking and not be because of anything else other than
I was just still in complete shock and adrenaline overload.
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But we then did make it to what the ninth hole,
the ninth hole, the ninth hole. So you got Darby
and I. All we want to do is continue golfing. Yes,
we care about your well being. You guys were okay,
a little shooken up, but you guys are so shell
shocked that you guys were not even there on the
eighth hole. Then you guys come up with this cock
and made me idea to do a tandem drive drive together,
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you and Scotty. Yeah, so we go to the tips.
It's kind of an elevated area and so you've got
a really great view in Scotting. You're like, well, shut
let's go line it up and let's do a tandem
drive and we'll have the boys video it. So you
guys are videoing Scottie and I. We call it one
to three. We pull back, wind up and take our
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shot and I don't know what happens, but I come
down in My angle of attack is so wrong that
the next thing you see is my ball cut and
slice completely right, and miss scottis head about I don't know,
six inches right, like his his shot was actually really good.
I almost killed him. We dropped to our knees. The
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whole video is on slow is in slow motion. You
can find it on our Instagram and TikTok if you're
so enthralled to see this. Uh so, then I about
killed my cart life, my cart partner, my cart buddy
for life. This was it was complete debauchers And then
you continued on almost killed him. I don't what was happening.
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You know the fact that like you misbehaved so badly
at the beginning of this what we thought was going
to be a normal round and through your club into
the middle of the woods. The fact that like that
completely gets glossed over because of everything that then happened
next is just beyond me. I mean, like we're a
couple of weeks out now, it's been like what I
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guess we're coming on week two. Like Scotty is still
pretty bruised. I still have bruises on my arm. Uh
you know, we're okay. Scottie is not ever allowed to
drive if um, I have to be the driver and
the cart partner for life. But I just you know,
we keep having all these cart issues. We had Robo
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Dick chase us. Now we have cartastrophe. Yeah, and I
guess there's no better way to close out the rest
of this episode than to talk more about carts and
talk to a card girl. Yeah. So we're gonna take
a break and when we come back, we're going to
talk to a cargo from our club, Sand Canyon. All right,
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So we're back and now we're talking more about carts
with our favorite cart girl, Megan. She is over at
Sand Canyon with us. We run into her all the time,
and we have her on the show today. Very special guests.
Hi Megan, Hi, how are you guys? We're doing awesome.
You look gorgeous as ever. Well, thank you and thank
you for having me of course. So can you tell
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us why you became a card girl? Yeah? So, um.
I was scrolling through TikTok one day. I found this girl,
Cass Holland, who is also a card girl, and it
just seems so fun. I started scrolling through her page
and I was like, that looks like a job that
I could do, and it seemed pretty easy, and I
decided to start applying for different jobs. I found Sand Canyon,
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got an interview the next day, and then now here
we are. I love that, we love seeing you at
San Canyon. How old are you, Megan, I'm just turned seven,
Happy birthday birthday. So there are other card girls as
everyone around that age. Yeah, so, um, we have a
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couple other car girls are both twenty three, and then
we had one that just left. She was twenty six.
So I'm a bit on the older end, but yeah,
I guess we're all on our twenties. So what you're
saying as I'm too old to be a car no, no, no,
no no. I mean out of out of the girls
that I work with at least, but I've seen car girls.
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I was in Palm Springs recently and I saw car girls.
She was probably like, I want to say, like late fifties.
It seemed like, oh I love that. I love that. Yeah, yeah,
this seems like the funnest job in the world. How
do you like it? I honestly love it. I love
the people I encounter. I love being able to work independently.
I'm not gonna lie. I love the tips that it
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comes with, I love the food, and I love the
country club that I work at. So honestly, it's truly
the best and easiest job that I've ever had. I
love that. So, speaking of tips, what's the biggest tip
that you've ever gotten on the golf course? So? I
received a seventy five dollar tip on a twenty dollar
tab and I didn't even make them drinks. I was
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just handing them beers. So it's very very generous of them.
That is generous. What would you say is the craziest
thing that you've encountered so far in your career as
a cart girl? So one time I pulled up to
this group of four golfers. They all had matching shirts on.
They were like, look like Hawaiian shirts and stuff. And
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this one guy, he just doesn't say anything. He just
comes up and sits next to me in the cart,
stares at me in the face, and he asked me
if I have a boyfriend, and I said, yes, I
do have a boyfriend. And he said, well, what's the
nicest trip he's ever taken you on? And I said, well,
we have. We have been in Hawaii and it was
like beautiful and he was like, oh my gosh, Hawaii,
Like I would take you to mek A Nose and um,
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I just kind of laughed it off. I was like okay, yeah, whatever,
and then um, he was like, oh, do you want
to take a shot with us? And I was like, oh, yeah, sure,
why not. So um they ordered fireball shots and then
they bought me one as well, and then, um, they
kind of did take up a lot of my time.
I'm not gonna I was probably hanging out with them
for about like fifteen minutes, which is quite a bit
for um, you know, just some shots. And he didn't
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tip me. I can't believe he didn't tip me after
he told me he would take me to mek a Nose.
I think those guys are Yeah, I think you do too. Yeah,
And they were all like belligerently drunk, right, So um
and that was that. So I left them, and then um,
I I catch I caught the one guy who told
me he would take me to mek a Nose later
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talking to another cart girl and he was totally like
hitting on her, trying to get her number and all that,
and she was just not having it. And then, um,
so at the end of my shift, I'm driving home
and then I see their car pulled over on the
side of the road and they're all shotgunning beers and
I'm like what are they doing. They should not be
drinking and driving. But yeah, they think they just wanted
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a party. I don't think they wanted to golf. I
think they're just trying to get lit. There is a
golden rule, and I'm sure you know it for us
golfers to never pick up on the golf cart girl
and not to be creepy. How the golden rule though,
like it's an unwritten rule, unwritten rule that nobody follows.
How has that happened to you? It happens. I can't
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lie every shift. Um, whether it's someone just saying, oh,
like you're so pretty much you know it's nice, I'll
say thank you, of course, or if it's to the
extreme where it's like, um, oh, let me get your number.
Oh if I if I make a hole in one,
can I take you out? Or something like that, um,
which never happens. But yeah, no it happens, but for me, like,
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I don't mind it as long as you're respectful. You know,
we are under the impression that you're very um impressed
when you come up to the tea and you see
our t shot and I want to clarify we to
be the men on the course or under the impression
that they think Kurt girls really want to see them
hit bombs and that they're super impressed when they do so,
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So could you clarify that, Forest Megan. I I love
to see a good shot. I love it, um, But
oftentimes I will also like look away and pretend I'm
not paying attention because I don't want to like throw
their game off or anything. And some guys will say
that they get nervous, and you know, I want to
be respectful of that. So, um, but if I see
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a good shot and I'll say I was like, oh,
that was a good ball, you know, But I can't
say that I'm there for that or that I am
like looking forward to it. But if I see it,
I appreciate it, and um, I mean it's fun, it's
fun to see. Does that make you feel better? Right?
Are you a golfer? Do you golf? Yeah? So I
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just started, um about seven months ago. I want to say,
my boyfriend bought me my first set of clubs, but
they are junior clubs, so they're meant for kids because
I am a shorty. But yeah, so I can't say
that I you know, I don't play all the time,
but I want to first. I want to get into
it nice and slowly, and you know, first like perfect
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my swing and understand what clubs to use for what shots,
because I mean before like I was never interested in
golf just because I mean honestly, from the outside, it
looked boring to me. In the first time I was
ever on a golf course, it was not a pleasant
experience because I was having some stomach issues. If you
know what I mean, Brian, I really knows what you mean. Yeah,
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so um And I had no clue that when you golf,
you're out there for like what six hours? So I
you know, I was having my stomach issues. I was
running back and forth from each hole to the bathroom
and I was like, this is a nightmare. But you know, no, yeah,
I love it. I love that it's challenging. I love
that you could always improve um and I love the
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community surrounding golf. Have you ever gotten any advice from
a golfer on how to make more tips or is
there any strategies that you have now that you figured out?
So I was told once from a golfer named Victor
that I will get a lot of tips if I
to trash chalk the golfers and talk about how shitty
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their swing was, and I somewhat did put it to
the test one time. UM with this these group of guys,
they were really cool and they're the type that you
can choke around with and stuff. And this guy totally
just missed the ball and I was like, I said
something along the lines of like, um, oh, you should
try that again because it really sucked or something like that.
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I don't remember what exactly I said, but it made
them laugh and then you know it, Um it was.
It was a good time and they did tip me well,
So I wonder if it was due to my trash
talking or not. But I didn't go too hard because
I want to learn some more of the terminology first,
so I actually know what I'm talking about before I
do some of that trash talking talking about terminology. Do
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you know what, Um, A shot is called dick out?
Do you know what that is? No, I've never heard
of that. What is that? So? Dick out is when
you go to tea off and typically the guys are
playing much further back right and when they go to
tea off and they hit their shot and it doesn't
make it past the women's tease. We call it a
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dick out, which means they're supposed to then take their
dick out and play the rest of the whole. There's
some terminology for you. The next time you see somebody
not hit it past the girl teas, then you need
to trash talk him and tell them that you know,
that's a dick out shot if I ever saw one.
But I guess you have to be careful, Megan, because
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coming from the car girl, I'm sure that they would
do it. They would do it, so be careful, be
careful exactly. Oh my god, that's hilarious. Dick out. Has
anyone actually ever done that? Yes, Oh my god, that's
pretty funny. I've seen a lot of I've seen a
lot of gentlemen p on the golf course, that's for sure, right, Yeah,
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we see that too. Part of nature, I mean, I guess,
but like there's guys who go and hide in the bushes,
and then there's the guys that like just straight up
on the fairway and that I've seen a lot of.
M h yeah, I saw that three times my last shift.
Three times I saw guys peeing. So that was fun.
So what's what's something that um when you drive up
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to a golfer that, um, that is some kind of
confusion whether or not they want to drink or do
they always get a drink? How often does that happen? Um?
I would say about eight out of ten times people
want to drink. UM. However, it can't get confusing because
sometimes you're further away and um, you don't want to
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interrupt them, but you want to know if they want
to drink. So what I like to do. I like
to like do a thumbs up and be like are
we good? Like as in like if you give me
a thumbs back thumbs up back, it means okay, we're good,
we don't need anything to drink. But if you give
me a signal like that's like waving your hand like
come over here, that's when I know, okay, they want
something to drink. So I feel like there's got to
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be a better way to be to do this, Like
what what do you think we should do here? How
do we make this more direct for you? UM? I
would say, the thumbs up means no, thank you, and
then the hand signal means or yeah, like the come
here means like we're thirsty, we want to drink. UM,
but I think there should be it like a better way.
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And I have an idea. You can have a sign
Magan that says like drink yes, no, and you can
turn it back and forth. It's like smiley face, sad
face face. It should be loud, it should have like
be dazzled glitter all that on it, and that way
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there's like no confusion because again you're dealing with people
who have requests to you know, children out there basically,
so you know, you've got to do something to make
it easier. Something I think around to something too. Yeah,
that's honestly genius. I want to do that. I want
to make a sign now, So thank you for that idea.
What are what are like, you know, in your time
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you're driving around, what are some of the funny things
that you see golfers do? Um, some funny things I've seen,
I guess some funny things. I mean, I like how
they mess around with each other and they'll call each
other like dickheads and stuff, which is pretty funny. Um.
But besides that, I mean, oh, one thing I have
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noticed is that noise carries on the golf course. So um,
you know, I could hear what someone saying from very
very far away. And one thing that I thought was
funny was there's this guy. He always buys modelos for
me and I. I had driven off right and I
think he thought I was like a way gone or
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something and that I couldn't hear him. But he told
his friend He's like, he's like, oh my gosh, she's
so beautiful. I should have gotten her number. But I
just I just thought it was funny because he had
no clue I could hear him. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
I could hear pretty much everything out there. To be careful,
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would you say, how is the treatment from um, girls
golfers who are golfing with you versus guys? How how
how's the interaction between that exchange different. So I've been
lucky to encounter nothing but like really sweet female golfers. Um. However,
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I do notice that they do um. They do either
you know, they don't want to like start up a
conversation as much as the males do. They either you know,
they want to drink and they want, you know, to
just get on with their golf or um, they don't
want anything and you know, which is obviously fine. But
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I do notice they won't strike up a conversation like
the males do. So I would say that's the biggest difference.
But honestly, they're all so lovely, like I've been lucky
to only have encountered such wonderful woman out there. Did
you ever date a golfer? I would, and I am
dating a golfer. Awesome. I hope there's hope. What you're
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saying is there's a chance there is. Did you meet
him as a card girl? No, I didn't. We met
in college. Actually I sat next to him in a
class and I decided to tweet about him, and I
didn't know he followed me on Twitter, so he saw
the tweet and then the rest is history. Oh I
love that. Isn't that funny? But now it just took
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away my hope because the pickup line the card girl
didn't work. The pickup plane, it's not gonna work. No,
you can't really date a card girl. Then, well, there
was one time you told Maxine that she had a
nice physique. Oh my gosh, I heard that episode. That
was funny. Thank you, by the way for listening to
our episodes. You are like our you know, every time
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we run in to Megan at the golf course, she
runs up and says, oh my god, I just listened
to such in such episode and I loved it. We
love it so much. Is there any best friend I
have a question for you, Megan. Yeah, you've got a
platform here to be able to say anything you want
to all those golfers out there that you might not
be able to say to their face. So what is
it that you want to say to the gentleman out
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there that you encounter on the golf course. Probably if
you're going to be creepy, just don't say what you're
gonna say. But if you're going to be respectful, like
by all means, like I would love to talk to you.
It makes my shift go by faster. But yeah, if
you're going to say anything inappropriate, just don't say it
at all, because chances are it's disgusting and it's just
gonna make me think that you're a creep What's the
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most what's the most inappropriate thing that's been said to
you out there? So? Actually, um, this old fart told
me that I would make more tips if I was
out there topless, and it just caught me off guard
so much that, like, I am not one to like
just brush something like that off. But because I was
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working and it just caught me by surprise, I just
awkwardly laughed and I said something like, oh no, like
that wouldn't be good or some random thing like that.
But yeah, that was probably the most disgusting thing I've until,
especially because he was so old to like this guy
like he walks slow, right, so it's like I don't
even know if his dick works at this point. Sloppy golfer. Yeah,
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telling Megan to be topless. Yeah, grow wrong with people?
Men have no filter on the golf course. I just
don't understand. It's like they might have a filter out
in the real world, but man, you put them on
the golf course and they regrets to something that. Like,
it's just it's like a five year old element. We're
in an element. We're comfortable, We're with their boys. A
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really pretty gorgeous cart girl comes around. Come on, you
guys gotta have a spect Yeah. Well, Megan, we're so
happy that you came on today. Thank you so much
for joining us. We loved having you on. We love
running into your favorite card girl. And uh, we hope
they will come back and talk to us again. I
we know that social media. Is there any way that
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um any fans or people listening can find you? Where
where can they find you? Yeah? So on Instagram, my
user name is Megan Rocca m E g A N
N R O c A. And then on TikTok, which
is my favorite, by the way, is Megan Rocca with
M E g A N R O c A. No
two ends or anything like that. But yeah, give me
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a follow, I'll follow you back. Awesome. Well, everybody can
find Megan there, and we're going to have you back
soon to give us an update on card girl life.
I can't wait, and I'll probably have some more stories
for you too by then. For sure, we're going to
take a break and when we come back, we'll be
back with some Mulgan's. All right, thanks Megan, Thank you guys. Okay, Jess,
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I have a mulligan. Okay. So it's kind of an update. So,
as we said in this episode about my um my
hammer throw wedge sixty degree PhD into the forest, I
figured out a um I figured out a solution it is.
I bought a chipper, a chipper, so Pin just came
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out with a chipper. It's getting all the rave right
now and um, I looked at it and I didn't
get the pink chipper. I got the Cleveland Smart Soul
for Satin chipper, and it has changed my entire game.
I have played four rounds with it now and it
is incredible. Um it is a putter and a wedge
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in one, so you just use a putting stroke and
you can do bumping runs. You can even hit from
a hundred yards. The loft of the chipper is forty
three degree, so it's right in between a nine and
a pitching wedge. It has a lie angle of sixty six,
so it's more like a regular club, and the length
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of it is thirty four inch, so it's like a putter.
UM Ping's had a lie angle of seventy degrees so
it was more upright, and I didn't like that. So
I now got this Cleveland Smart Soul for chipper. I'm
hitting everything with it and I'm so excited about it.
And um, there's no shame in using a chipper. In fact,
(40:36):
we played in Sino Hole eighteen. I eagled from thirty
feet away with my chipper. It's in for life. I
I gotta say, I was there and you've been talking
about this chipper NonStop, so much that I'm like, can
you please stop talking about the chipper? Seeing you play
it in sino An Eagle the eighteenth hole from a
hundred yards out was sick. It was so amazing. Kudos
(41:00):
to you, you fucking rock. You're You're my hero. It
was incredible. Thank you. Yeah, so the chipper is in
the bag for life? Yeah? Would you get rid of
In order to keep that in your bag? I had
to take out my p x G seven wood and
then I got a new Stealth d h Y driving
Hybrid three. It's a three driving irons, so I had
(41:22):
to take out my ping seven. What. I'm kind of
bummed about it, but so far, so good. Okay, all right, Well,
I guess my muligan this week is got to be
regarding my cart partner for a life. Uh, Scottie, you
are forever banned from driving the golf cart from here
on out. I am happy to still be your cart
partner for life and remain your best friend. However, you
(41:44):
are not allowed to drive ever again. Okay, Ever, I
love you to death. Uh, but I just don't know
how we made it out of that one. I just
I really don't as always. We love playing with the boys.
As always, Babe, I love playing with you. Thanks for
golfing with me. Thank you. Where can they find us?
We're on all social media platforms at Balls and Holes Golf.
(42:06):
That's at balls, the Letter and the Letter in Holes golf.
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