Beating The Book: The 14th Annual Vegas Lifestyle Show: A Man's Guide to Sin City

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Check it out, Man Gil Alexander. This is the fourteenth annual,
fourteenth annual Vegas Lifestyle podcast on the Beating the Book
feat and the Betting Dork feed before that, and this
is the one podcast of the year that we do
that is not singularly sports betting focused. We always save

(00:26):
it for the week between the championship games and the
Super Bowl because it's a dead week. So we talk
about for the fourteenth straight year just Vegas shit. And
what I mean by that is when we were younger,
that meant nightclubs and things like that on day clubs.
But now we're old, so we don't really talk about
that so much anymore. But we do talk about restaurants, sports, books, apps.

(00:51):
Steve is here. By the way, let me just introduce
Mark Meltzer. First, the megapod, the Beating the Book podcast,
and Betting Dork before that has existed. It's the year
twenty eleven. Only one person has been on at least
one podcast every single season, and that is this particular
show every year, and that's Mark Meltzer. Everybody, they're on
the bottom left at Meltz Vegas Meltzer like Seltzer, what's

(01:15):
happening Mark, I look.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Forward to the numerous text messages that quote. You're saying,
Meltzer like seltzer because you're the only one left. Everything
is male to last pole day in Vegas. I'm heading
back east and just did some laundry, cleaned out my
knit caps and my jacket for the first voyage back
east for seven years.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
So Meltzer and where can people find your stuff? Let's
get that out of the way first. Where can you
be found most often?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Most often you'll find me at casinos dot Com. That's
regular news and views, so to speak. You'll find me
at travels orc once a week and that's either Vegas
news updates or like a hot topic that's regarding players,
clubs and rewards programs as a release to Vegas and casinos.

(02:06):
And then you'll find me here there, and you know,
and everywhere. I have a bunch of stuff coming out
on covers this week, maybe next week, so then that'll
be based on basically some cheap gambling things. Where to
play cheap blackjack, where to roll where to roll the
bones for cheap and get good odds at the same time.
So that's where I'm at today.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Mark is going to represent the everyman here, whereas Steve Fezick,
the only back to back winner of the Hilton Super Contest,
might be for the more diehard folks who I don't know,
maybe have a little more cash on him. He Steve
will teach us how to chinse Vegas out of every
dollar that he possibly can. How you do it, Steve? Good?
Is that accurate presentation?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
You know all of us are going to go to
like the Pass and get a players card. This is
an old town Henderson and get the nine to ninety
nine Prime Rib Special together, or Ellis Island with all
the Cupons and get the steak dinner for thirteen dollars
to show I'm just not an elitist country club bowl.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
This is where Mark and Steve ran a foul last
year on this kind of thing. By the way, Steve unprovoked,
I said, everybody, we're doing Vegas lifestyle today on a
numbers game, and a lot of tweets came in They're like, yeah,
could you tell Steve, like we don't have that kind
of do what he has.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
So I got something for every budget, even for a
budget the size of crack Man's Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Speaking of whom Bill Krackenberger everybody on the fourteenth annual
Vegas Lifestyle podcast, What's Happening to Billy?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Thanks for having me on. You know, I've never met Mark,
but however he's a great follow I just looked up
his and of course we follow each other for years
at Mark at Meltz Vegas on Twitter and a great
follow and like you said, the sites he works for
puts up things, it's fantastic. So it's great to meet him.

(04:00):
And of course I follow Steve. I follow Steve. I
like his everyday ramblings on Twitter, and and of course
Gil you I do your show from since day one.
We've been together on Thursdays on VSON, and I appreciate
the invite here. Listen, I'm out every single day. I'm
out to eat, I'm out around town. I just know

(04:23):
that I put, you know, twenty seven thousand miles on
my car a year, and I don't go out of
town with it, so that's pretty hard to do. So
there we go.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, and that's why that's why you all are here,
because all are experts on what we're about to get into.
And I want to start with we did this last
year too. But I hate to say that we got
to start with the bad stuff, which is melter. I
go to you, come on, you know where I'm going.
You know where I'm going with this. No, when we
were kids, when we were kids, and but I mean
when I mean kids, I mean like ten fifteen years ago.

(04:54):
In earlier I would say I always give the hard rock. Example.
Used to be able to go down to the pool
with rehab early in the day. I'm the first person
to put my towel on a lounge chair. It's mine
for the whole day, me and my buddies. But through
three more on three more lounge shares, those were our
chairs for the rest of the day. That is old Vegas.
Old Vegas is long gone. Day clubs, nightclubs. And you

(05:18):
texted me during when Fezek and I were doing a
numbers game yesterday, no Monday. You texted me during that
show to let me know what the super Bowl, oh no,
March Madness pricing was. Can you explain to folks who
are thinking about coming into town for the Super Bowl
or March Madness what the prices are these?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, it's pretty insane price wise, So there's essentially you
could still get a general admission seed in sports books,
I would say ninety five percent of a year, So
don't freak out. But when there's a large event like
the super Bowl, like March Madness, because he knows are
looking to you know, their corporations. They have to make
more money every quarter of every year. So when you

(05:59):
think about in that mindset, they're going to look to
nickel and dime wherever they can. In the sports books,
you know are our target number one for major events
because they know people are going to go, and they
know people are going to pay, which is the worst thing,
because the best thing you can do if you don't
want prices to continue rising is not pay that. However,
people don't seem to care. So what I said you

(06:22):
on Monday was the Caesar Palace sports book for March Madness.
The prices start at five hundred dollars per day per person.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
And that's that's intercession per session.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
In the yes, correct per session. Thank you for clarifying that.
And that's inside the main sports book. And you get
three beers with that every day. You know, that'll that'll
that'll feed, that'll give you enough drinks for a few hours.
I guess not. Whatever you can sit behind the bar

(06:56):
at the USUS Palace sports Book for under two hundred bucks,
which normally is a walkway from you know, the casino
area to the Forum shops. It's outside of Omnia, so
you're sitting like what I'll feel like a mile away.
But they're not the only ones that charge that much money.
If you go to Top Golf, you can get Bay
packages that are going to start at like one hundred

(07:18):
bucks a person and per day for four you know,
it's it's insane. The Cosmo Party, it's it's open booze.
You can play hoops there. It's one of the better parties,
but it's going to cost you three hundred bucks a day.
Found Blue has their theater. They're going to charge you
a couple hundred bucks a day. Westgate's one of the

(07:39):
great bargains where you can actually get in there for
probably around one hundred to one hundred and fifty bucks
a day in the International theater just for a seed.
You know, you can get the good lines, you get
fair lines there. South Point remains one of the best deals.
You know, it's off the strip, but they've got the ballroom.
They've got the ballroom with free entry, cheap eats, good odds,

(08:02):
So that's always a good thing for groups. I think,
you know, and we're looking March ban'szek mentioned Ellis Island earlier.
I was looking at prices at Ellis Island for March Madness,
and they start at one hundred and seventy five dollars
per day for their March Badness party.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's Ellis's Island, Ellis Island.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's everywhere, so it's not even it's it's not even that.
It is just the Vegas Strip, which is the predominant
place where you're gonna have to pay money, but it's
reservation fees and such. It's literally everywhere, serga. You know,
the prices are off the charts. You can walk into stadiums,
swim for the Super Bowl, you know, pay under two
hundred bucks, but that's standing room only. If you want

(08:42):
to see, you're gonna pay more.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So, uh, you know, it's just the reason I start
with for.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
March sticking with March Bandess though, it's insane because it's
the first two days are more money than the next
two days. Sunday is pretty much getaway day for visitors,
so there are there are very few parties and you
could probably just walk into the book on that day.
One thing I recommend to people is a look off strip.

(09:08):
If your budget conscious, b if you don't really care,
just walk around and you can walk, you know, from
book to book, from casino to casino, from bar to
bar and catch enough of the games, you know. But
if you do want to see it's gonna you're either
going to have to get there super duper early. When
I moved here, you talk about fifteen years ago. When
I moved here, they were the legends of people paying

(09:31):
homeless to stay overnight in a sportsbook so they had
a seat for tip off at eight am. You know,
for the first game of March Madness. That's no longer
the case because the books will be closed.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
I just you know, the Caesars thing. Just the first
day of March Madness and the second thurs name Friday,
one session is over five hundred dollars. When we say
one session, that's a half day, so it's the early games,
you know how it kind of breaks up in the
middle of the day. The first and second day of
March Madness, the full day is almost nine hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
If you want to a question, I'm looking at some
tweet that it's full day is eight to fifty early
session five point fifty. In late session is is six fifty.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
There you go, Okay, So I just I just throw
that out there because I think that's the way to start,
because I think that's the biggest sort of sticker shock
for anybody. And when it comes to the super Bowl,
then it's not quite that expensive, or is it.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's yes and no. Your super Bowl is one day,
so you're obviously only paying for that one day. South
Point as I, as I mentioned, always always has their
free party in the ballroom. Great option. But if you're
at a casino, you're going to be paying, you know,
somewhere around five hundred bucks a seat. If you're an Aria,

(10:53):
you get it's three point fifty for a lounge chair
and that in that sportsbook that needs very new screens
because I feel like they've been here since day one.
But you get a free buffet with that, so you know, yeah,
you get a little something with it. Uh, one of
the sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I I don't mean to start with the bad stuff,
but that's I mean, most people, I think Mark, you
and I are simpatico on this. We come from the
East Coast our buddies from the East Coast, right, And
you know, we've talked about this before on this podcast,
where it's like, hey, go to Circa. It's fun and everything,
and they go once and they love it and it's
the most wonderful thing they've ever seen in their life.
But they're stripped people. Right, So if you say, are

(11:32):
you going to go back to Circa, right, They're like, yeah,
well it was great. Don't get me wrong. I love
the experience, but I'm just gonna go back to the
strip against I think people are just locked into the Strip.
And when we sit here and we say, oh, yeah,
you can go to the South Point, which are all
great recommendations, right, you go to the South Point, you
can go to the West Gate, and you know this,
I know my buddies just don't have the bandwidth for

(11:53):
that for whatever reason, right, they're just gonna be like, nah,
we're staying on the Strip, so we're gonna pay out
the the booty hole. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
And you know what, when you're younger, you're a little
bit more willing to spend you know, the twenty you
know they the ten to fifteen dollars for an uber
off the strip, to save a few bucks. But when
you're older, you definitely are sort of stuck in your ways.
That's how I am with restaurants nowadays. You know, I
go to the places I like, and I've tried almost
everything that I want to try at this point. You know,

(12:22):
when there's a new restaurant opening, I definitely want to explore.
But for the most part, I'm sticking with the try,
you know, the trying true things. And the people that
Dad love Circa have a good reason to love Circa.
It's fantastic, But I though it's fantastic, you know. But
like you said, you know, the majority of people that
visit Las Vegas stay on the Vegas Strip, and and

(12:42):
they are they're less apt if you stay Think about
it the way I like to think about it is
that you're here for seventy two hours. You don't want
to spend one of those hours in a cab going
back and forth to and from the Vegas, your hotel
and casino. You really just want to spend five minutes
to walk to the next property four five to difte mins,
depending on how fast you walk through Aria to get

(13:05):
to park MGM.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Billy, I'll meet you Ellis Island for one hundred and
fifty bucks each to spend a Sueral Sundata. So it's island.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
So this is actually even shocking to me hearing this.
I didn't know this. I didn't know that a local
casino like Ellis Island is charging for parties. And I
just didn't know this. I didn't know this went on.
I thought it was I thought the locals were all free.
I believe now I could be wrong about this. Mark
would don't like the local casinos like stations and stuff.

(13:36):
They're not charging for a long Boulder Highway and stuff.
They're not charging for people to sit down. I wouldn't
think for super Bowl or March vandas are they Mark.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Correct, that's correct. What they what they are charging though,
is for parties, like we're saying the off Strip. You
can definitely get a general emission seat, you got to
arrive early. But if you want a secured seed reserve seat,
you can also Westcat do the same thing. You could
pay two hundred bucket to preserve a seat during the
Super Bowl at the Westgate, or you could take your
chance and just show up. You know, it's really a

(14:06):
matter of what are your priorities. But you're right. The
offstrip books you could sit for free, but the parties
like stay. Every station casino property has about five different
has about five different parties in their different restaurants and bars.
So you can check out their blog they have. They
detail everything from Green Valley Branch to Durango to Red

(14:26):
Rock and sun Says Station. You know, every property of theirs,
you know has multiple parties.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
So Zik is chomping at the bit because I know
where he wants to go with.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, you probably do, so all I'm hearing is complaining
and bitching and everyone's upset about like all this costs,
So how do I gain the system so I can
sit and watch my Super Bowl and drink and have
a good time. And it goes back to don't be
the peanut butter approach guy. Don't be walking around if
you're in Vegas or not in Vegas. Don't gim with

(15:00):
thirty different casinos and they all think that you're like
a real low level gambler and you're not gonna get
any perks. Focus specialize. I mean, it's not gonna do
any good at Bolaggio, But go to a place the
size of say the Palms or Treasure Island or downtown.
You know, go ahead and play in the Four Queens
and be a little mini whale there. Give show them

(15:23):
the play, Billy'll be what first got to tell you
about four Queens and all the promotions, video poker things
like that. Don't try to score these great comps. I mean,
I'll use an example. So I barely play at the Poms,
but I had a good bet size. So what's this? Boom?
The Poms wants me and an invited guest to go
to their super Bowl party. And I get these all

(15:44):
the time, and it's not like I'm playing that much.
So if you are a gamble and you're gambling already,
why spend an hour here, an hour there, walk over
the Cosmo walk to Bolagia. No, take a mid level
strip property and become a mini whale there so you
get invites and you don't have to pay nothing, and
you just show up in there and you talk to

(16:05):
your host and boom, you can get a seat.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's a great strategy. And it's I always tell people,
do you want to be the big fish in a
small pond or the small fish in the big pond?
You know that's that is, those are words to live
by for me when you're looking at rewards and maximizing
your dollars. And uh, back when I was a East
Coast gambler, my old original handle, back when I first

(16:30):
met you, Gail, I used to go to show Boat,
not the greatest property, but my bank girl went so
much farther there, and you did it uses Palace, which
at the time Caesars owned both of them. But because
I played it their lesser property, I got everything. I
got the greatest comps, the greatest suite, you know, all
for the same budget that I would spend at Borgata

(16:51):
and get nothing at ES's Palace get nothing. So it
really doesn't matter where you play and what you what
your goals are is really what matters is my friends
are busy. Their goals are not the same as mine,
and they do want to go to the nice, fancy place,
the news thing. They're not looking for rewards. That's their trip,
you know. When I'm not with them.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm not like that though, right, which is why I mean,
the reason we do this podcast is partially for Physic's
advice on that, because I think it's great actionable stuff.
But I do think the whole time you're saying that, Steve.
The whole time I'm thinking, yeah, my buddies, I tell
them that. Right. If I'm like, okay, guys go to
the poems like as soon as I in any way

(17:33):
inconvenience them or what they'll deem as an inconvenience, they'll
just be like, ah, shut up.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
It's very difficult. Basic strategy. Don't have eight guys go
to the strip together because you're never going to agree
on where to go to dinner and to do it.
If like three is a great number, I found like
two to four is a good number. Most people you
know can reach a common ground. And I will say
this if it's become in Vegas. If you're not a
VIP of some status at a casino, you are at

(18:05):
the bottom. So even if at like a world class
resort like Win, I love the Win, But if you're
just going into the wind without any status, you're waiting
in the long lines, it's not going to be as
enjoyable as say you're as having the royalty treatment at
a four star or three and a half star restaurants
and experiencing the casino you go in and just being

(18:27):
a diamond member and it's easy to become a diamond
member or platinum member. Boom. Now you're checking in in
the Diamond lounge. You're not waiting in an hour line,
maybe an hour and a half line to get into Vegas.
Once you do that, you'll you'll look at that line
and you'll say, I'm never going through that again. Mark's
mentioned he doesn't even want to be in a cab
for ten minutes. Imagine waiting in line for an hour
and a half to check in at Caesar's or Bollaggio.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
By the way, a twenty dollars bill still works on those.
Just go to the front, somem of twenty you'll go
to the front of the line. Just the most actionable
advice I can give you. But I'm curious all three
answers to this. So Stevie, I know you like for
you Caesar's. The key point that I don't think people
know from year to year, even though we mentioned that,
is this status stuff is transferable to other properties. So

(19:15):
what is Steve in your opinion? Then we'll ask for
Bill and Mark Xelso what is your opinion the casino
to do that at to elevate quickest.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, So Caesar's is the best one to start with
because they have ten times tier credit days and seven
times tier credit point days, so you can become a
platinum in like twenty minutes on a ten time point day.
And by the way, just you know, gamble responsibly. Get
Here's Bob Danswers. Jack's are better video poker. You're playing

(19:46):
at ninety and a half to ninety nine and a
half percent game like you put through if you want
to become a diamond, I think you have put fifty
thousands through. That sounds like an insane amount, but you're
at your disadvantage. It's like seven hundred bucks. You might
you might I get unlucky, you might lose fifteen hundred.
You know what, you got three buddies in town. You
all want to become a diamond, pull it, sit down together,
say we're all going to you know, we're all going

(20:07):
to share in this and we're all going to get
a diamond card. Now boom, we're going to be going
to the Bahamas. If you're on the East Coast, you
get to go to the Bahamas in the wintertime for free.
I've done it. It's like you can't believe it. This
is actually working. They're not charging me nothing, you know,
to stay, you know, down there at Great Vacation. And
then once you have that diamond card. Gil you mentioned
the matching status, so I got my seven stars. I

(20:29):
go over to the wind. They're like, oh, we match,
we'll give you a win black. I'm like, what are
the benefits. They're like, well, you get two free rounds
of golf, and I'm like, there's no way this is
going to work. It's eight hundred dollars per person. I
walk up to my host, I'm like, uh, can I
have two rounds of golf? And he punches me up.
I have hardly any play and he's like, when would
you like to play, mister Fasick. I'm like, I can't
believe it. Yeah, so you get the idea. I mean,

(20:51):
it's so valuable to have these matching stats. Fump Blue
gave me two free nights just for being a font
Blue Royal, and I never play there, Billy, you got
I agree.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Now I'm more I'm more stick to local places myself,
because I like what the Mark said, being a big
fish in a little pond. I'm just looking at my
just a recent mail like this, this is just recent
mail that I have, and it's just local places Tuscany.
I like the restaurant. I'm sorry, I don't know the
name of it, but there's a Goodisseca Bistecca is over there.

(21:28):
I think it's great. They give me one hundred bucks
every month to go spend there. Plus I earn a
lot of dollars there and on Mondays and Thursdays they
have matching points. I'm seeing here, so you can get
double that. I mean, so I like going over there.
I think that has some decent video plob for nothing
crazy many almost ninety nine percent, but they have bonus
days and I love going there for that. This is

(21:49):
the South Point. I absolutely love the South Point. I
go there, you know, three or four times a week.
Stations casinos, I like going there too. I like going
to some of the cascine. By the way, Todd just
text me and said that Red Rocket is charging for
seats for both events. But I also have like the
Venetian because I went there and gave them a big

(22:11):
play on a bonus that my buddies found and they
didn't have enough money for it. By the way, I
went partners with Randy McKay over the phone over video.
Those things always don't work out. It was a giant machine.
The one hundred and thirty five dollars will spend. We
were in stupid money, stupid put it this way. We

(22:31):
hit an eighteen thousand dollars bonus at the end and
lost money. So you don't always wins. But they've been.
But they've been sending me some good bounce back offers
since then. Give me about two thousand in cash. Food there.
I go to the Mediterranean restaurant there constantly and mark
what's that name to the met the place. It's been

(22:51):
there for years. It was over at Cosmo first, now
it's over at the Venetian. It's famulous milos. Thank you Milos.
I've been I I get free melos every month. I've
been going there once a month for free. So I
like going to the local casinos. But let me, let's
not fool around. The win is the class of the town.

(23:13):
My favorite casino to go to. It's just the ambiance,
the restaurants overlooking the golf course there. They have some
overlooking the pools. They have so many good restaurants and
it just you just feel like you're walking into Royalty there.
I've seen Steve win there. I've seen a Lane win
there multiple times. Back years ago when when the when

(23:37):
the pandemic came and everyone was having fifty nine dollars
and twenty nine dollars rooms to Win also had seventy
nine dollars rooms. There was a giant fistfight. It was
videotaped by the pool at the encore. It was unbelievable
and Elaine Win said, that's enough of that. We will
now be the highest rack rate on the strip. Basically,
what I'm getting to is they keep the riff raff

(23:58):
out of the joint, so you're gonna pay for that.
Though you're gonna pay more for a cup of coffee.
If you're paying, you're gonna pay more for an ice
cream cone than almost anywhere else. But you're paying for
the safety of the place. You're playing for the class,
the elegance, the marble, the Carrera marble from Italy, and
the tiles. And I love the Wind. I don't. I'm

(24:21):
the sports book there. It's a yes, it's much smaller,
but Doug is very good to myself, He's very good
to Steve. The Wind is my favorite place in town.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I got the win yeah, ahead, I was gonna just
follow what you guys are saying on the reward stuff.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
But go see everything Bill said about the Win. I've
never had a bad meal, and think about it's not
just about the food, It's about the ambiance. It's about
raising your spirits in life. So if you're staying with
your family and maybe you get a casino rate and
you're paying eight hundred a night, you know what, if
there's four of you, you're all paying two hundred a
night for a life experience. That is just tremendous. Best

(25:02):
buffet in town in my opinion. If you're a carnivor,
you might prefer Caesar's, but that Win is just outstanding.
And from the low end, well they have no low ends,
but like the coffee shop or a leg Gros, the
Italian place to if you have never gone to Delilah's
their supper club, that is like a world class experience.
You will literally go home, like a year from now

(25:25):
you're like, oh, I remember that night I had at Delilah's. Wow,
that was just outstanding. And just personally, I've always found
like when I'm at Aria or a Venetian or palazzo
and I go to a really nice restaurant there is
just not the same for whatever reason. Then going to
Wingley or Mazuma's or all these restaurants at the.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Wind will we will circle back to the Wind because
all that you're saying is right. It's the only place
I still feel like I'm on vacation when I'm in town.
The last thing on the rewards mare.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah. Oh so there's a couple of things, and don't
disagree with anybody at all. There's a great website called
Miles Talk where they talk about points rewards nationally as
well or entered worldwide as well as Las Vegas. He
has a thing called the Status Status Match Merry Go
Round where you can take like Steve said, you could

(26:15):
take your Caesar's rewards, then whenever there's promotions with other properties,
take your diamond card. I did it. I went from
Caesars to Fountain Blue, got my upgrade there, tried to
go to their Vexian Venetian rewards. I was not matching
Fountain Blue at the time, but they were doing other programs,
and besides, they weren't giving out any of the good

(26:36):
stuff with their new rewards program, which a whole other
issue about satisfacching. But you can always do this kind
of merry go round. So if you focus your play
on one, you can always find promotions to dabble in
other properties explore them. When I did my upgrade over
I had Felt in Blue. They gave me one hundred

(26:56):
dollars free dinner or food credit. I combined them with
a friend of mine. We had a wonderful night out
two hundred and fifty dollars in comp states, wine, drinks.
Everything was fantastic time. So that's another way to go
if you're looking just to maximize and get everything from
everywhere that you can. Another way you could do that

(27:16):
is with what they call the Founder's Card. It costs
about four hundred bucks a year, and previously they would
give you they would give you upgrades, a different rule
travel rewards program, so it could be your worldwide hotel programs,
it could be a casino. They previously met gave you
diamond to Caesars, So essentially you're paying four hundred bucks

(27:39):
to get diamond to Caesars. In order to keep it,
you have to spend the money to keep it. But
you can use that to match elsewhere, which is fantastic,
but they're no longer with Caesars there with a WIN,
so you're going to be able to get an upgrade,
pay to get an upgraded rewards program at Win, which
I totally agree, is the top of the top. It's

(28:01):
top of the food chain in the Las Vegas. There
are luxury resorts in Las Vegas, Venetian, Bolagio, Cosmo, but
there nothing comes close to the service and the atmosphere
Wind and I still love it. And also, if you
want a great cup of coffee, Earth Cafe in the
little shopping promenade, fantastic massive cups of coffee that gilly.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yeah, if you don't, if you don't gamble, just go
into the MGM sign up for that for that credit card. Boom,
you're pearl. Now that you're pearl, you can start doing
this Merry Go round that mister Seltzer has told you
how to do. And and and just I love that
you mentioned that Earth Cafe because the Wind has so
many little Easter eggs. As you're walking around, you know,

(28:47):
you know, through the shopping area and even the convention
center area. I would never, of course walk through the
convention arey wall convention is going on and sample the
food or the coffee especially. No, not me, but like
one of my favorite hidden secret walks is you walk
back by the conventionary and the wind and you can
go into the back area and just walk right out

(29:09):
and get that view of that golf course. So if
you're not you know, if you're not a golfer, you
can walk out and actually be you know, on the
you know, the teeing areas of a hole and get
the view and the sphere and it's just spectacular. It
doesn't cost you anything.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Okay, let's let's move on. We'll circle back to the
win or our favorite sportsbooks and that stuff, but real quick
before we get to that. Last year, at this time,
we were a bunch of complainers. We were fetching about
a whole bunch of stuff, not just the prices for
Super Bowl and March madness. We were complaining about the
Fountain Blue which came into town, did everything wrong, the
way that they tried to whatever the opposite of ingratiate

(29:48):
themselves is to the town right. And the other thing
we complained about hugely and justifiably was f one for
tourists and residents alike who were here for a five
month period before the F one race at the end
of November of twenty twenty three, we were still smarting

(30:09):
from that and we're like, holy crap, this thing's going
to happen nine more times. God help us. Am I
correct in saying that F one wasn't nearly as bad
this year, right, that that is not as big of
a problem as it was, and that the Fountain Blue
is kind of like, okay, well we know what it is,
and some people actually like that is that fair.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Spot on, mister Alexander. In fact, thank you. I hate
F one more than anyone, as you know. Yes, and
that's why the Drop of Canada has been under construction
Tropicana Road for eighteen months because they got all the projects.
You know, no problem building up and down all these
bridges for F one, But I have done a one
to eighty on the font Blue. Now, part of it
could be that, you know, they caught me for a

(30:52):
couple of nights, which isn't going to hurt you know,
their status. But they do a lot of things, right,
I mean, those those restaurants, that Mama Wolf restaurant, that's
my second favorite restaurant, I would say, no boo. And
the top three I'd say no bo and Caesar's font
Blue and Delilah's in the wind, you know, as far
as overall experiences. But if you go to the video

(31:13):
poker bar area by the sports book, you can get
a premium like old fashioned, like a twenty five dollar
Old Fashion. Just throw on like Meltzer. Just put one
hundred dollars into the video poker machine markets you've done
it right, and then drink like you are a.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Like you're done aristocrat. Right.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I have some bad news for you. Fez. The change
their policy and now they cap the drinks at eighteen dollars.
I will not say, I will not say what I drank,
but I did have a one hundred dollars glass of
bourbon when they first opened, just because they were still
figuring out their policies. But now they're just sort of
the bar there is sort of the same as every

(31:55):
other video poker bar where you can get up to
eighteen to twenty seventy dollars.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
You know, Gilly before pre production we uh market we're
talking about. You go into the high limit area and
a lot of them have double deck blackjack, so know
how to play basic strategy and you sit down one
hand into the double deck. Well, there's no midshoe entry.
You can't play, that's the rules, but you can still
order drinks. So coincidentally, the cocktail waitress might be right

(32:21):
there when you sit down after one hand. It's going
to take a good eight minutes to cycle through that
double deck. And so you go out and order your
old fashion, your apple martini, whatever you like, it'll be
in your hands, and then the shuffle happens, and you
know what you can do. You can and people do
this all the time.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
You can.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
You can just you get up and go. Actually, but
you can play one hand, and you just say as
soon as you lose one hand, and so that costs
you a dollar, you're at a half percent disadvantaged basics
brategy player, it's going to cost you one dollar. You
lose a hand, you're like, oh, I got a bad
feeling about this. Deal me out and just walk with
your old fashioned.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
The big surprise with this tip is that Zick doesn't
look for an eight card shoe or an eight deck shoe,
so we can sit there longer and not play.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Rights the mid deck.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, but that's better.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
There are some that.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Strategy also works at the video poker bar in the
high limit rooms as well. You could you know, throw
throw some money and play a few hands, get a
high quality drink that year. Not gonna got a casino
four and uh, you know, if that's how you want
to roll, God bless, have a great time, not how
I roll my bath room play it. That's my issue.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Never ever use a bathroom a community bathroom in Las Vegas.
Always going bill, you've done this right, You've especially had something,
you have the wrong thing to eat. You eat a
big buffet boom going going to the high limit that
no one's ever in those bathrooms and and and they're
pretty nice.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah, how about those highlights when you go in the
high limit rooms. Uh, Caesars used to have it. And
in the back of their high limit table games area
they have, you know, a little food set up and
no one's checking for your seven star card. Just there's
probably all over town. Now I don't do this, but
I know that all over town they have these little

(34:13):
high end especially on the weekends, clubs set up on
the weekend for the higher players. You know, you're addressed
nice here, you act as if I mean they had
homeless people in these places. Years years ago, and people
suing that they couldn't and then they want Actually you're
allowed to walk into any high limit pit and watch
the players. Some people don't like that. Now there's those
private rooms and stuff, but they have the high limit

(34:37):
areas set up with a little buffet like snacks and
little like little mini cheeseburgers or whatever sliders, and you
can just walk right in if you just act as if.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
That's why Palms has so Palms by the registration area,
just walk in. There's a couple hosts there. Just just
act like you know them, wave to them and just
get your coffee. Go ahead and get your muffins. Get
with you and I will do that.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
It's fun, do you guys?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Wait, let me let me just clarify that. So are
you saying, like, you know how the Tower Suites at
the Aria has like a little buffet at the bottom there,
but you're not necessarily staying in a Tower Suites room
or at the bellagio, there's that when you walk into
the beautiful lobby. You know, if you go right to
the right there there's like a door with all kinds
of shit in there too. Are you saying you just

(35:20):
walk in there.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Yeah, no too, you need to get in some of
the wind medium and place doesn't have a a what
do they call that someone at the door. They don't
have a doorkeeper. Basically to check.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Just check out. Let's get to the good stuff. Well,
crescendo to restaurants. But let's let's drift back into sports
and sports betting. Let's talk about brick and mortar sports books,
and then we can talk about apps brick and mortar
sports books if you had to watch a game there.
Let's not talk about Super Bowl March Matis. Let's just
talk about a on a normal day in Vegas. Let's

(36:01):
say a football weekend. I'm on a college football Saturday
or even like a Wednesday watching NBA. What are your
favorite sports books to hang out in.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Bill Okay for fandom. If I'm with my friends and
you know they love to hang out, you know their
East Coast guys from back to back East, and they
want to come into town, I'll go to a circa
or West skate where they're getting experience like they've never
seen before, Giant screens all around them and it's just
like the Mega of the world. Now, if I'm just

(36:32):
with one friend and I want to hang out and
get some free drinks, and I'll go to the Wind
because the Wind Sports book is great to me, and
you know, I get drinks and stuff. But if I'm
in a group, I like going to like the West Gate,
I'll hit up John Murray or someone there and they'll
get me into a even one of the Boots or something.
They're very good to me over there at the West
skate with with a group. But like I said one friend,

(36:54):
I'm probably going to go to the Wind Veez, I'm.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Going to the Wind. I love that deep boutique feeling there.
But Circa I'm gonna I'm gonna Spiller. I'm gonna say
Stadium swim is kind of part of the casino watching
games and stay in swim. You don't need a seat,
don't pay for a seat, just jump in the pool
and watch the games. It is just tremendous. Caesars Palace.
You know, we've Todd, Todd, Gilly and I have hung

(37:20):
out there. Just then those recliners in the back. It's
it's so dark and it's very relaxing. It so yet
stations Westgate, they it's cavernous. It's they do a nice job.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
And and I think stations the high end stations, Green
Valley and Red Rock, and certainly South Point. I like
south Point separates the race book from the sports book.
That is really nice because those two groups don't always
play nice together.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
They don't, that's right. I will also concur that Circa
for those who don't know Circa's sports book, downtown casinos
are I mean, resort properties are known for things Circa
is known for, Like when you think of it, it's
the sports book, the world's largest sports book, and of
course what Steve said, stadium swim as part of that
adjunct to that. And I agree with the with the

(38:13):
Wind call. We don't usually talk about the Wind sports book,
but it's like a stock Market times squarish kind of look.
It's super well lit. You just feel, just like the
Wind brand, that you're in the best place. Though, I
will say, like another sort of hidden gem on the
strip when you can't get a seat somewhere else or
the other places are too smoky or whatever. I think

(38:36):
I brought this up last year too, The Cromwell, which
is right in the middle of the strip, corner of
Flamingo and Las Vegas Boulevard, it's only about twenty seats.
Like the Cosmo, it's small Cosmopolitan, but both of those
books have great screens and are usually accessible. Cosmpolitan maybe

(38:56):
not as much, but the Cromwell's kind of a hidden
gem that there's all always a seat available in.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
You know, let me talk about the Cromwell. Also because
Paris Flamingo horseshoe. These are dumps.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
The Cromwell used to be the Barber Coast. It is tremendous.
So if you're like a seven star and you go
in there, they're going to upgrade you to their suites.
I've stayed there numerous times. They have a pinball machine suite.
They in the book Koenix book The Sharp Money. He's
like Doldale says, we got sweites and they're nice, and

(39:30):
he says, and they're not kidding. Those are some of
the best suits in the most easily accessible suites. Just
book a normal room. You got some status, you're like,
go to see a host. They're like, I'll give it.
I'll let you upgrade for one hundred nights. Sometimes they
give it to you for free.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah. Cromwell rooms are beautiful, absolutely not what do we
think the nicest by the way. I haven't done a
staycation in a while, but I used to say Palazzo
had the best rooms on the strip? Is that still true?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Mark Ah, They've been redesigned. It's it's honestly that's at
this point there are so many nice rooms in Las
Vegas that it is difficult to say that something. They're
either really nice or they're not, like there's very little
in between, if that makes any sense. Plots of Benetian
rooms are redesigned or upgraded. MGM grand is upgrading all

(40:19):
their rooms have already started upgrading their rooms. They're going
to finish that this year. Win is still nice. I
believe they're going to redo the Encore rooms this year, which,
by the way, a great tip. All the Encore rooms
are sweets, So if you're looking to say a WIN,
you can get a much larger room if you say
in the Encore Tower instead of the Win traditional tower,

(40:41):
the original tower. Just a little tip on there. But
I've always loved the Palazzo just vibe wise. It's one
of my favorites. And we talk about the good restaurants.
Yardbirds still one of my favorite restaurants. I go there
for conferences all the time. I much rather if I'm
going between Venetian plots, I'd rather spend time inside the Palazza.

(41:03):
But you have a lot.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
They they what makes them outstanding the rooms is they
they are a dude dual level. There's like a four
step drop and there's like a gate there. So if
you're staying, like with four people, it's almost like you
have a separate like living area below it just maybe
the same square foot but it feels bill you stay
at those places, doesn't feel like so much more space.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah, there's down it is. They're all sweets, They're they're
they're really nice. They absolutely are nice. You know, when
I'm over there, I spend most of my time if
I'm at the wind But as Mark said, the Palazzo
is just such class, such great restaurants over there in general.
One of my favorite steakhouses there, it's between the Venetian
and the Palazzo's cut is fantastic Wolfgang Puck steakhouse. It's

(41:52):
also a bust out joint. It's one of the most
expensive steaks in town. So but but it's good.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Sports book bits for you. If you want Paris itself
to quote, Physick is a dump, but their sports book
has been recently renovated, so it's it's way nicer than
it's it's the nicest part it was. It was finished
last year. It's actually been done for a while, right
around March Madness, I believe, but it's super nice now.

(42:22):
It looks very much like the Palm sports Book, which
is a William Hill sports book. Similar design, much nicer
than it used to be. Not the best, but but
way nicer than it used to be. And connected to
Paris is toport you because you know they used to
be balleys. They no longer have a sports book. So
that sportsbook feeds two connected hotels. Just on on that tip.

(42:46):
Another sportsbook off the strip that nobody mentioned. That is
one of my favorites, and I think a legitimate destination
sports book the way circa is for people to go downtown.
The Durango Sports Book with the connected sportsman lounge, restaurant
and outdoor area is just a phenomenal sports betting environment.

(43:07):
You have a traditional sports book on the inside, you've
got a great sportsbook bar where you don't even have
to sit in a lounge chart you could bang around
video poker. They have decent pay tables there if you
want to eat something, you can go right next door
and get a view of the sportsbook video screens. It's
an absolutely fantastic place, and I recommend if anybody's ever

(43:28):
looking for something off the strip, it's a fantastic It's
a great place to go, and it's one of my
it's one of my favorite locals casinos, and I live
equidistant now between Pallaestation, Red Rock and Durango. I spent
most of my free time going to Durango, whether it's
to eat, hang out, gamble, whatever the thing may be.

(43:49):
A few other surprises. Some coast in Summerland recently renovated
or built a brand new sports book. It's sort of
theater style and it's it's reminiscent think about a smaller
version of a traditional sports book like Circa or Westgate.
You know, just a nice small, small but larger space

(44:11):
and brand new screens and that that similar dark environment
that I can't remember who mentioned, but I love a
dark vibe on the sports book where it makes the
screens feel even brighter. That's a brand new that opened
last year. What do you call it? Ellis Island is
building out a new sports book. So I'm not sure

(44:31):
one that's going to be completed. I believe this summer
sunset station off the strip. They just redid their sports
book and Mandola Bay a couple of years ago replaced
their screens, and it looks really good there. You're at
Mandalay Bay and it feels the proper what's that I said,
I had no idea they did either.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, I don't think a lot of people know to
that know that. But it's such a dark environment there
as well, and the screens look super duper bright. And
one of my my favorites in this area where I
live is Rambart because you know, they use the same
lines as uh as South Point. But it's a nice, small,
comfortable sports book with different types of seating and and

(45:14):
plenty of room for people. And it's because you're out
in the burbs, you could trick. You could generally find
a seat there.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
See this is why I have you on because Paris
is literally across the street. I had no idea that
book was open, And then I had no idea Mandalay
had new screens finally, because it used to be so
bad in there, like the screens were so poor that
you would never even think to go there. Does the
does the Virgin Betfred's sports book? Is that even a thing?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
So Virgin is going through some major changes right now.
Mohegan Sun is out his casino operator, Betfred is out
his sportsbook operator. They come the owners who licensed the
Virgin brand. It's not a Richard Brandton joint, it's a
it's a third party license. So they're going to take
over operations of the casino and sportsbook. We don't have

(46:04):
a sportsbook operator officially announced yet. There are rumors, but
I nothing that I feel comfortable sharing. So that's you
know that that's a tiny, tiny sportsbook, though I think
you might be able to fit fifty people in there
at the most.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
I'm just curious that did bet Fred ever even get
licensed in Nevada in the end?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Well, to operate here you can be licensed, but they
never got a mobile license. And interesting enough, Bally or
a company called Canby who operates sports books all over
the country, they just they're gonna going for approve licensure
approval for retail sports betting. And what that means is
that they do the sports books for Bally's. So they

(46:47):
were going to when day launch or once they get
approved they'll be ready to launch at Bally's Lake Tahoe
later this year. And if Tropicana ever gets or if
Bally's ever gets things together for the old Tropicana site
and built a new casino, chances are they'll be the operator.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Wait, I thought the old Tropicana site was supposed to
be the ballpark.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, it's going to be a ballpark, hotel, casino, retail complex.
It's going to be way more than just the stadium.
The stadium is the stadium is only nine and a
half of the thirty five acres thirty five.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
It's so impossible to believe they're thirty five acres there.
That's incredible to me. We'll come back to the apps
here in a second. I just brief aside because I'm
thinking about this. So for those who are vaguely aware
of Vegas, the old iconic hard rock which we all
grew up in, or I'll speak for myself, I grew
up in is now virgin where the Mirage is. Right.

(47:42):
What we knew was the Mirage, which was an iconic
property which was the biggest in the early nineties. The
Mirage was it in Vegas that is now going to
be the new hard rock, and are we still when
is that supposed to be completed? How many years from now?
And also when is the ballpark supposed to being play
but when is the heart? When is the hard rock

(48:03):
supposed to be completed? And are we still going with
this iconic massive blue guitar that's going to exist? Is
that going to be the new strip?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
So the target for hard Rock opening is still twenty
twenty seven. I'll believe it when I see it, because
they are just getting the volcano is gone, the atrium
is gone. It looks like a you know, just the
framing of the property is still there. The pillars are
in the ground. From what I understand, to build the

(48:31):
guitar hotel tower. That that hotel tower will be separate
but connected obviously to the rest of the property, which
will which is being gutted entirely from the ground to
the ceilings the stadium. They're looking at first pitch for
twenty twenty eight. Again, I'll believe that when I see that,

(48:51):
because there's there's a supposed to start construction on that
this year, but who knows what's going to happen there.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, that's amazing to think that the biggest the most
iconic thing on the Las Vegas Strip is going to
be a big hard rock guitar one day. Hard you know,
hard to imagine, but that will be the case. The
renderings that thing is massive. Okay, about apps, Let's say
you're coming into town March Madness, super Bowl, maybe just

(49:19):
a random other weekend, maybe for conference tournaments, maybe for
an NFL weekend, week ten, week eleven, whatever, Steven Bill,
what are the apps? If people are doing this right now? Again,
I preface it by saying, I don't know if my
buddies are going to come in town and have the patience. Well,
I know one of them will, right, There's always one
guy in the group will be like, I want to
do this right. I want to get as many apps

(49:40):
as I can, and if I can fund them, great.
Which apps must they download on their phone and then use?

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Steve, there's four of them. You need to have Circup,
and you need to have Westgate because they're the two best,
and they're lightning fast and they're so easy to navigate.
You need to have the Win because they have the
most unique good lines and the like. Although every now
and then the app goes down to get to re
install it, in the like, so it's a little it's
not as functionally easy as a circle in the West Gate.

(50:10):
And I'd say station. I think that would be my
big four that I would go with Bill, What do
you think?

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, I'm with the on stations and when if you're
looking for an extra half a point here and there
on the marquee teams against the marquee teams, you'll probably
find them at stations and closer to game time. Sometimes
it's amazing. I really don't like the bet a lot
of things game times because and just like Steve, the
market's pretty efficient. But yet Steve and I find bets

(50:36):
every single week, every single week of the NFL season,
there's something to bet at ten to ten when the
game's kick at ten o'clock. Because the win all gets
a pit player coming in and bet two hundred thousand
of a game. They want to get off a little bit,
they'll offer an extra point sometimes I've seen a point
all throughout these playoffs. I have seen stupid totals fifty

(50:59):
three when it's fifty one out there by the way,
that game land to fifty two. You know. Now, there's
a lot of during the regular season. Also, they give
you some extra things there, So I don't mean to
be talking about the win. They don't pay me anything
for doing it, that's for sure. But the win app stations,
even though I'm not allowed to play on it, Steve's
not allowed to play on it, the station's app good

(51:22):
to have and I do love, as Mark said, absolutely
love the Durango Sportsbook area there. They have the George
great restaurant Howards. You could sit overlooking the entire sports book.
Really open air, bright roomy, great place to also watch games.
So I'll tell you the good bet about stations. They

(51:43):
throw people out that win, but they have a lot
of good things too, especially for the locals and people. Also, yes,
I would have the circa. Circa went down to pick
them the other day at game time on the Kansas
City game. Someone came in, but they were certain tis
half a million dollars five right now you can go
on the app. I look just to see what it

(52:03):
was before the show. They're taking three hundred thousand on
the Super Bowl. I don't know anyone in town that's
taking that much money on their app. Now you can
go to the counter and dump out as much money
as you want at one of the big ones MGM, Caesars,
and yeah, I'm sure you could do that, but we're
talking apps. Circa app West Skate, I agree, and the

(52:24):
Westgate app fantastic one o eight juice on the NFL,
and you know what I do. I also have the
south Point app, so south Point also has a good app,
and they don't charge juice extra juice. They instead of
going to minus three minus twenty, they go to three
and a half, so they stay three to three and
a half. It's a key sportsbook that I bet throughout

(52:47):
the year in the NFL. And baseball lines. They have
good ten cent baseball lines, which is becoming a thing
of the past. So there we go.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
That's right, they go. They go dime lines higher than most.
I think there's a lot of things. First of all,
out of towners, you're going to get frustrated with the
exception of Circo or Westgates app. You're probably going to
get frustrated with the user experience with you know, MGM
and Caesars. They're better than they were, but they still
are or funky. I agree with you guys about stations.

(53:19):
You actually at stations. I can only speak in tennis terms,
but when you go to the counter, the lines aren't
as good as the ones on the app. So there's
that as well, which may surprise you. It did me,
by the way. And then the other thing that I
think I'm going to anticipate what Meltzer would say here
is the other pain in the ass is you have

(53:40):
to fund these all in person, correct, So that's the
biggest culture shock.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
So for I was actually going to ask Bill and Fez,
what do you guys recommend on the Vegas Strip for
people who because you do have to register for the
first time in person, and tourists are generally lazy, you know,
they don't want to drive out to the other places,
what are the apps around the Vegas Strip that you

(54:06):
would recommend, Because for me, it would be circa because
you could go to Tuscany, which is a five minute
walk from Horseshoe and Cromwell, and you're going to get
good lines there. However, if you want to get the Westgate,
you can hop on to the monorail to get there
pretty quickly, but it's going to take you fifteen to
twenty minutes to get there. Same with's health points. So

(54:27):
which would you recommend for people who want the best,
the best options that are near or on the Vegas Strip.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yeah, idea, what you get them all? If there's ways
even with the strip, there's sneaky ways in the strip.
For instance, if you're driving in from like Los Angeles,
you're coming in from Henderson on I fifteen, boom, Dean
Martin Drive is your friend. You exit there and it
takes you right by Manlay Bay and you're little, and
if you're a Pearl member, you park for free, but
you still get a couple at least an hour for free.

(54:56):
And you walk, you get whisped right into the Manley Bay.
That's an MGM joint. And it's funny. There are certain
properties gil that always showed a loss versus their other properties.
So for Haras, like the Balis used to be the
one sports book that they would always lose in because
every pro that they are parking, like right next to
the sports book there they called an SBX parking And

(55:18):
may as well said parking for fees that you can
just pull it and walk right in. So but the
Mandalay Bay is the only MGM property I know of
that I can get in and out of, even with vallet.
That's that's my go to for going into MGM. I
don't know about you guys.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Well you walk yeah to the sports book.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, you know, you don't have to. I know with
the MGM app, you can actually live in New Jersey
and just as soon as you're flying to Vegas, it
transfers over You don't have to even reapply or anything.
So that that's a big that's a big plus. Uh,
because people are lazy. Mark said it right. People when
they're here, they get caught up the neon, the adrenaline.

(56:02):
They don't want to walk around and drive around and
take ubers and the mono rails to sign up for
a count. You're absolutely right, that's the plan before you
get here, but it doesn't happen that way. So uh.
I know the MGM mapp you could just you know,
it just transfers over all your information and you have
it without having to go anywhere. So that's good to do.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I've got some bad I got bad news on you
have you still have to go to If you've never
been to the Las Vegas Sportsbook for for bet MGM,
you still have to go and do the first time.
You have to verbally or not verbally, visually be there
to make sure your wallet speaks otherwise. Yeah, just the

(56:43):
one time. But still if you know it's five minutes,
you know, I got to you know that that's a
lifetime in on the Begas Strip.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Yeah, I got to speak to the secret valet for
if you're a seventh star and I love it. See
has a seven star valet on Flamingo Road. So you
get off I fifteen, you're heading towards the boulevard gridlock.
Before you hit gridlock, boom, you're between the Blaggio and Caesars.
They're unflamingoed. You turn left and you're into the seven

(57:14):
Stars valet. You hand them your keys. They only ask
me for a ticket, right and you're right there by
the gym. You're right there by the Augustus Tower, the
VIP check in area. It is so convenient Starbucks for
my free drinks and it raises your spirits. And then
you walk out and they don't park you. They just
leave your car right in the curb there. It's like

(57:34):
they hand you your keys to say, oh yes, mister Fez,
your car's right there. And now you're back on I fifteen.
Time is money, Like Mark said, if you can get
access to that that seven star is that valet parking
is better than any valet anywhere.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
That's what I was.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Going to say. On the other side of the street.
The Ballet for the I believe it's in North Vallet, Bolaggio.
It's a very similar toch me just hop in, hop out.
It's great. Nobody knows about it. You buy the sports
book there if you really do want to hit and
you know, if you want to set up your quick
MGM and you're driving in, it's a great way to
do it because you know, and if you have status,

(58:13):
it's no no no charge or discount of charge what
however that would work.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
The Caesars is better because they have more spots there.
They leave your car nothing a twenty dollars. By the way,
I don't think that you have to be a seven
star if you give them a twenty dollar bill twenty bucks.
Hey guys, I'm going to make a couple of bets
for twenty dollars. You're leaving your car right there. Act
as if just give them the twenty they're going to
leave your car right there.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Yeah. For the people who have a car and want
to get around, that parking lot is and that's a
great that's a great bit of advice. You don't have
to be seven stars. Just slip them the twenty. A
twenty dollars bill will still get you most things in
this town. Oh it's a lot of Briday night. Yeah,
well Friday, you're going to give them fifty. Well, I

(58:59):
don't know when you don't want When it was Pacquiao
Mayweather And this is a while ago, you know, and
the and the and the taxi line was one hundred deep,
A twenty still did the trip. There's a couple of
things we said in there that yeah, it was a
thousand years ago, that's true.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Are you carrying fifties though, that's the thing. A couple
of things in there. One if you have a car,
Besick mentioned Stevie mentioned Dean Martin Boulevard, Dean Martin Road
or whatever it's it is a it is a road
that runs parallel to the strip just west of the Strip,
which is really the biggest Vegas hack there is right

(59:35):
use that you'll get places quicker than anybody you could
imagine getting.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
The other thing is we're talking about MGM and that
particular app somebody told me Kelly Kelly Bidlin figure it
out from somebody else that you might be able to
bet on bed MGM using a laptop now here. They
don't advertise it, but it's a possibility that you're able
to do it now, which is a big development. And

(01:00:01):
then the last thing I wanted to say is, also
you just know this for out of towners, you could
run into some frustrating things with Big One, Caesar's and MGM.
My NBA draft story is perhaps you know a teaching
moment for all of us, which is when you go
to MGM, oh look, my MGM app has this great line,
I'm gonna go bet it at the desk as opposed

(01:00:23):
to on the app, they will oftentimes tell you it's
not available here. You have to bet it on the app.
So that's another reason to have your apps funded. And
they can also like do the okie doke on you
where they're like, yeah, just fund the app, And then
when you try to bet it on the app, you're
limited to a ridiculous number because of their stupid algorithm.
So that becomes a whole thing super frustrating. It's not

(01:00:45):
because you're you're great, right, even if it's a bet
likely to lose. I like my NBA draft bet, they'll
be like about thirty three bucks on the app, give
me my money back. I wouldn't have put the money
on the app that you induced me to go put there.
I wanted to bet it here. You told me to
bet it on the app, and I can't bet it
amount of money that I want to. So that's one thing.
Caesar's the same NBA draft spun me in front of

(01:01:06):
my eyes right from a fifty to one to twenty
five to one, which is super illegal or should be.
But they can always lie to you, which they do
and say, oh, someone must have been at across out
at the exact same time. Fuckers liars, right, So there's
all that exactly. So there are those moments. Just know

(01:01:27):
that these things still exist in town. But hopefully you
don't run into any of those things. I do want
to get to restaurant before we leave. We've mentioned a
bunch I would like to start, and then you guys
can fill in the gaps because I have my restaurant's
a choice that I would like to get to. And no,
I'm not giving up the secret sushi spot. Let me
just start there. But if you love sushi. Sorry, Steve,

(01:01:52):
you love sushi Sen if you're willing to travel for
sushi Sen in Summerland, Sen and Buddo for a little
more of a high end experience, fantastic, k E, b
U t O, All kinds of great sushi in this
town flown in or driven in from California every day,

(01:02:13):
so it is like a very top notch sushi place
in this country. I put Vegas up there in the
top three. As far as like the Strip itself. Meltzer
mentioned Yardbird. If you like fried chicken and watermelon at
Venetian always a go to Carbone at at Aria when
it comes to Italian is top notch. So is Sinatra

(01:02:34):
at Encore, which is fantastic. Billy and I have gone
to the Italian American Club off the Strip if you
want that old school feel or Piero's, there are those.
There's a place in summer Land again which is like
if you're real foodie, a place called I want to
get this. I want to get the name right on it.
It's called Anema by Edo a n I m a

(01:03:00):
ed oh ed O the name of the U. The
chef there am by Edo, which is fantastic. Park MGM
on the Strip Bevets. When you talk about like steaks,
the Vets has just great. You know. Meltzer mentioned this
last year an amazing hamburger. By the way, I think
the best hamburger is the Vets at Park MGM. And

(01:03:22):
then downtown Oscars. Bill Ady hit me to the best
burger at in downtown was at Oscars named after what's
my man Oscar's last name? Meltzer? What's his last name?
Thank you, brains going away. It's leaving us slowly. So
there's so many places. My my favorite steak is still

(01:03:43):
s w at at wyin On Andiamo at the d
is fantastic. There's so many spots that I'll just throw
those out and we'll circle around. Billy, what do you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Got a barriers downtown? So let's start a steak bars downtown.
I had two bed sws in a row, so I'm
not gonna put. I used to love s W when
Mario and oh my god, there's the greatest major d's there.
Mario's now in charge of Cosmo all the food. I'm
not Cosmo, I'm sorry. What's the Fountain Loop? He's in

(01:04:17):
charge there of all the restaurants I used to love
that place, but it's still good. I'm not saying that. Listen,
I told you about all my high points at the
Winnow of the restaurants, I love Steak Stove, I told
you guys cut I like the Venetian. I do like
Peter Louver's at the Forum Show, it's actually Finn Caesar's.

(01:04:37):
I've had. I've had two good meal free good meals there,
one bed but I love I love that steak there,
but my number one steak. I'm still going to the
old Reliable. It's unbelievable that the place has been there
twenty years. I'm still going even though it's a seafood place.
They say Joe Stonecrab at the Forum Shops, I think
it's one of the best steaks in the world with
their little side season and neighboring unbelievable. Now let's go

(01:05:00):
to Asian Food. Let me just tell you, big hidden
gym for years now, it's out there, words out I
go all the time. It's just the pain to get in.
Eight eight eight Japanese Barbecue on the corner of Spring
Mountain and Decatur. It's an all you can eat premium food.
The premium it's a little bit more money, so premium.
But by the way I said a little bit more money,

(01:05:22):
people just complained it went up three bucks. It's thirty
three dollars now instead of twenty nine thirty three bucks
all you can eat premium. You can get even the
wag doing stuff for another ten dollars, forty five dollars
all you can eat. It's ridiculous quality. I'll just tell
you one thing. They have never once, and I've been
there a dozen times, made money on me. I have
made them pay. So not that I'm going there to

(01:05:44):
make them pay. It's just that good, great place. Hard
to get in. You have to use their Yelp reservation system.
It gets full every single night. Love that place. We
have some great spots in Chinatown, some great great places
all up and down Spring Mountain Road. Now pizza pizza
places in town. Very I'm very tough on pizza. I'm very,
very tough. You know. It's funny. I just tried a

(01:06:06):
califlower pie and I was like, cauliflower, I'm not try
I would never try something like that, and the East
Coast scot give me, give me a break. But my
buddy had it, and I was like, what is this
this look how thin this crust is. It looks great.
Let me try. I actually liked it. I can't believe it.
That's that's over at dom DeMarco's on which which, by

(01:06:26):
the way, we have all been there. Don de Marco's
shout out to them. That great pie is al over there.
They have some great pizza, uh, you know, trying to
follow the tradition of Dom DeMarco and Brooklyn, and they
have some certain pies there. But that cauliflower pizza I
just had. I also like there's a pizza place right
there in Chinatown. Unbelievable. It's in Chinatown. If you like

(01:06:47):
that type of pie that it's called Double zero Pie.
It's really popular now too, because a couple of guys
gave it some high ratings. Uh, Double zero is one
of the pizzas in town. I also like there's some
still places. I like it on the Casino at the
Casino Fountain, Blue Miami Slice. But yeah, they're bust out places.

(01:07:08):
Eight bucks Slice. But however, buy a pie, you get
a whole pizza for thirty six. Why would you put
You know, if you're buying the slices for ten bucks,
you're gonna pay a lot more so, that's some good
places there. I really don't have anything else for now.
I love steaks, I love pizza, I love Chinese food.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I'm gonna chime back in on the Pizza place because
I just want to say this, because I don't think
I've ever mentioned this place on the podcast. Maybe we
have before. It's not on the strip. I know a
lot of people listening there, like I just want to
play on the strip. Okay. It's a really short, really
short uber drive to Noura's. Noura's on Flamingo. It is

(01:07:47):
the best value of any restaurant in town. You can
eat like a king there for and bring all your
friends you will. You will be so happy with the
price of everything. And they have my favorite single pizza
in all of Las Vegas, which is the Salami Pizza.
Thank me later. Salami Pizza at Nora's so good. As

(01:08:11):
I'm talking about it, I'm like, how do I get
there today? So oh, I'm sorry, I jumped in line again.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Vez Downtown Evil Pie is pretty cool spot hole in
the wall bar. They got good pizza. Good pie Downtown's good.
Even Pizza Rock in Green Valley Ranch I think quite
good as well on Pizza's. You know, I want to
give a culinary day at Caesar's food wise, if you're

(01:08:39):
staying at Caesars, I know Caesar's inside and out. You
want to do breakfast at Americana Cafe. Everything is excellent there. Lunch,
they have a special Peter Luger's that Bill likes. Gill
not so much, but they have for forty six dollars. Now,
you get the burger, you get your Caesar salad or
your onion tomato salad, which is excellent. You get fries,

(01:09:02):
and you get an ice cream Sunday and they make
their own whipped cream and it is just outstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Did they give you a pillow for a nap after lunch?

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
I'm gonna get there. So, like, if you've go to dinner,
never get steak for two. If you get steak for two,
it's like one and a half times as much steak
for one. So just get the steak for ones. If
you have like four people, get three steak for ones.
It'll be more than enough for everybody at dinner. Okay,
you eat all that food dinner time. You go to Noble,
you got your diamond card you get you can use
those free drinks for the twenty five dollars old fashions

(01:09:34):
or the pineapple martinis. So that's you can go to
Stanton Social Prime or you can go there. Curiously, you
can't go to Hell's Kitchen. They don't value it there.
But at Nobu, I gotta tell you, don't go to
the one in Paris or Flamingo, go to the one
at Caesar's. It is just world class. To be sure
to get a drink at the bar before taking the
whole experience celebrity sightings there and ask them say what

(01:09:58):
are you known for? Because they have like like I
don't even like yellowtail like an appetizer. It's tremendous. And
they have a thing called beef wagoo tacos. And if
you think all beef has created the same gil, what
do you think about those wagu tacos at Nobu.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Fucking fantastic is what they are.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
They're like I think, like eighty dollars an ounce, but
it's worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
They're all Your recommendations are great, Stevie, and build Nobu
at Caesar's is fantastic. Your stuff at the Wind that
you said earlier, wing lay for the duck Delilah's again
for a supper club experience we talked about last year.
I recommend Delilah to anybody who can get in there.
You got to call months in advance, though, and in

(01:10:42):
the summertime they open the seating to the outdoors. You
do not want outdoor seating. That's the booby prize. You
want to be indoors. If you hate loud blazes though,
you don't want to go there. It's very loud, but
it transports you into the nineteen twenties, the Roaring twenties
with the music is it is an unbelievable experience. I'll

(01:11:04):
let Meltzer go. But I have one more downtown that
I think I mentioned last year that needs to be mentioned.
Go ahead to Mark, Mark, all right, I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Got a slew for you. My current favorite steakhouse is
Don's over at Fountain Blue. There are two different steakhouses there.
Don's is the traditional one on the first floor. They
also have one upstairs where you can get a steak
delivered like bottle service style. Very strange, but and people
love it. Not just on my thing. Pappy Steak is

(01:11:34):
called It's from the Fountain Blue of Miami. Carver Steak
over Resorts World. Still a fan of it. John Georges,
you turned me onto that years ago. Still a fan. Andiamo.
You mentioned strip steak over at Mandala a Bay. They
cook their steaks over wood, which gives it a different
flavor than other steaks. They just redesigned the restaurant still

(01:11:55):
looks great. Steaks are still good. Bavet, you mentioned that
burger to dive for the steak is fine. The bacon
if you are a large person that likes to eat
fatty foods, the bacon there is in seen. They also
have a very special cocktail menu with some special old

(01:12:16):
fashions if you're into those. One other tip with Bavets.
If it's if it's sold out, just walk in, go
all the way to the back and look left and
there's a there's a secret bar and with a few
tables where you can either eat, drink, eat and or drink.
So uh I guess that's also yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Also with the Vets, the most glutenous great bread in
town as well, so they have a bunch of stuff.
That's the bread. The bacon that Mark's talking about is
like this sweet, thick bacon, like you can't even explain it.
It's so good bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
It's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
And they have the lugar.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Bacon is really good, and they're the same thing with
the bread. They bring out all these reds and these
specialty chocolates and it just keep tip them good and
and you get them to go and they'll just bring
out like enough to feast on your family.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Lugers is where I learned about the bacon appetizers and
the bacon at Lugers. I I've only had New York
and it's fantastic. I can keep going with some uh,
with some a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Couple, But I want I want to say one more
thing before before you, before you go on Strip Steak.
The other thing I wanted to say about Strip Steak
maybe i'm is it still like tons of seating. Because
the great thing about Strip Steak was if it is
crowded in town and there are no reservations to be
had and you need a reservation that night, Strip Steak

(01:13:42):
at Mandalay Bay is always the best hack for that
because it's still an awesome steak. No one ever thinks
about it because it's in the back of Mandalay towards
the Aces Arena, and it's always comes through in a pinch,
so I'll throw that in.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
That's a good tip, I've I've never heard that before,
so thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
More. A couple more steak places. Scotch eighty over at
Palms has a very delicious rib cap bizarre bizarre meat
that used that used to be a Sahara is moving
over to the Venetian And while it's while it's not
a steakhouse, it's a meatthouse and it's all kinds of
delicious meats and I'm a big fan of that place.

(01:14:23):
And it's it's one of those restaurants where the menu
is so large that it's overwhelming. But if you tell
the staff how much money you want to spend, they
will feed you for as many courses as you can handle.
I think I we said the last time I was there,
we want to spend one hundred and fifty dollars per
person that includes wine. We got I think seven or

(01:14:45):
eight courses plus wine for the night. You know, one
giants steak to share, then a bunch of little you know,
shareable plates and it was a fantastic dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
That's that's outstanding advice because just give them a price,
let them bring the meat for you because you will
legitimately get pissed off trying to navigate that menu by yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
And then uh and some non uh non steakhouses because
I do eat some non steak. We talk about Asian food,
You guys left off one of my favorites, Ping Pang
Pong over a Gold Coast still still one of the
greatest values in all of Las Vegas. I when I
first started visiting Las Vegas, I would stay at the

(01:15:27):
Gold Coast because I could afford to stay the Gold
Coast and Ping Pang Pong I just I was just
there two weeks ago after McCallen tasting at the Ria,
and it is still fantastic and uh surprisingly no line
on the Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Lattie Downtown is a great restaurant. I feel like Asian food.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Also staying downtown Esther's, you guys, I think gil my
secret forgot that pizza off is still a great place
downtown as well. One of the great things about the
Esters area the Arts district. There are a ton of
breweries in that area, all walkable, so you could bang
out five different places to get beer and then end

(01:16:12):
up at Ester's, which getting a reservation there might be
a little bit difficult, but there's but there's a bar
you could sit at if you just want to grab
some delicious food. We messed you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Ester's expanded into a bigger space, so it lost a
little of its charm. But the food and I always recommendze,
like just go there and get the spaghetti. That's it.
Don't go grageous spaghetti, and the and the bread there
is awesome too if you're in.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
I was just last week. Place is great. Place is great.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
I need to find out their right name. But the
chef there also has a restaurant in my neck of town,
Summer Lane called Solo El Policieto I believe, or a
police do well Solo. It's over Tivoli Village. It's delicious
and it's Italian food and super nice guy. I met
him at once when I was eating at the bar there,

(01:17:05):
and it's an excellent off strip restaurant. If you look
at for Italian food. We mentioned Bevett's Burger, the Tavern
Burger over at Found Blue. We were talking about the
video poker bar. The burger there is actually solid and
they have my favorite local beer, Atomic Duck from Abel
Baker Brewing, which don't see it everything. I'm glad that
Bill mentioned Miami Slice because I the slice there was

(01:17:29):
so good, Honey, it it just bothers me. Is in
New York gonna pay nine dollars for a damp slice
of pizza. But like Bill said, if you buy the
pie you can, you'll save a few bucks and probably
a smarter way to go. Yardbird over at Venetian is
still one of my favorites. Jalao at Cosmo it's a
it's always good, and they have Sangria hour. We can

(01:17:50):
get discounted sangria and they have some meg you know.
I love Hilo, the little Papa's Bravas, the little potatoes there,
the little mini burger, everything there is Delights said, yeah,
we we have to get back to. Uh the overlookd
Grill a Cosmopolitan for the breakfast burrito there one of

(01:18:12):
the best.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Uh So, when the pool is open at the Cosmopolitan,
they have this overlooked grill that's open next to it,
and the burrito there is not the burrito that's indoors.
The burrito is not the same one as the one
that's indoors at what's the name of that place? The
Henry Henry, the much better burrito. But what's the biggest
thing about the Overlook Grill, though, is you tell me

(01:18:40):
I go there for the breedo you Jacamo.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
When you and Todd looked at that table side preparation
for the GUACAMOLEA, you might have tiered a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Here's the thing. Neither I nor Todd I wish never
do like like love GUACAMOLEA. We're not guacamole people. But
this one is so good good. You talked as Stevie
you were talking about earlier about how like you think
about certain things after the fact. I wait for the
AOL to reopen just so I can go back and
have that look so good.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Go ahead, Mark, I was gonna keep going down my list.
I got a handful, okay, didn't Typhong over at over
at the Aria, very very expensive but delicious. And if
I'm going to paint and what's your food, I want
it to be delicious. And that's what Miami Slice and
did In Typhong have in common. You can find cheaper

(01:19:36):
places off the strip, but if you're on the strip
and you want delicious soup dumplings, I don't think there's
a better option leaving the strip to a crack, said Hobak.
Korean barbecue over in Chinatown. Fantastic and a great price
as well. The one you mentioned, I believe you said
eight to eight is also a good one if you're

(01:19:57):
looking for a good value over at the Cosmopolitan Bees
that you can get a you can get some chicken tenders,
a chicken sandwich, a side, and uh and that'll cost
you under twenty bucks, which in Vegas parlance, finding a
meal for under twenty bucks is few and far between,
so that's always a favorite of mine. A couple of

(01:20:18):
new restaurants, Gordon Ramsey Burger just opened over Flamingo and
another vander Pump restaurant just opened at Flamingo the property.
The Gordon Ramsey Burger is all in front, it's in
the strip frontage, and the Kiss the Flamingo is almost
unrecognizable in that part of in that part of the property.
I'm not a fan of the Vanderhump food, but the

(01:20:41):
places are beautiful. If you're a fan of hers.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
I'm gonna put the kebash on two restaurants, avoid them
at all costs. Vander Pump and mister chall and here's
why you go to these places and you order, Like
my wife said, I'd like to get a filet, but
I don't want I just want to play it. Can't
do it, Gotta put the chef's special sauce on us,
you know what. F you guys can't can't give me,

(01:21:06):
can't give my wife a playfully you know what? Then
then I will never come back. It's like these places
that that the chef thinks he's bigger than you and
you gotta have it his way or the highway. Well
it'll be the highway, sir, No, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Yeahs, mister Chows is the one right above Peter Lugers, Yes, yes, yeah,
I had a similar experience. It was discussed. I was like,
this is I'll never I don't know why we ended
up there. I'll never go back. I just have to
say this about like staying places, because we want to
say the bad stuff too. I was at the airport

(01:21:40):
heading back to San Francisco the other day and uh
Persa was messing with my coffee bean order. The guy
observed like they were getting they were getting annoyed, like
the employees were getting annoyed when it was completely their fault.
Were getting, you know, putting themselves in the situation to
get annoyed. And he goes, this is nothing. He goes,
whether you hear this story, I just got bed bugs
over at the Flamingo and they acted like I'm the asshole.

(01:22:03):
So don't stay at the Flamingo either, if I may
say that as well. You want to flirt with that
kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
Hey, we've been to so there is about food and
how what you mentioned. Don't be stuck outside like at Delilah's.
But where you want to be outside when the weather
gets better. I got to tell you I have become
a huge believer in these rooftop lounges, the old Voodoo Lounge,
the Ghost Bar by the Pomps. But now that Legacy
Club downtown, I would argue when they have the fireworks

(01:22:29):
on Friday night during the summer. If there is a
bucket list of one thing you should do when you're
in the summertime in Vegas, it's to go to Circa's
Legacy Club at dusk.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Stevie loves the Legacy Club. That's it, that's his spot.
Didn't used to go and I goes there all the time. No,
it's great. Absolutely, Mark was that the list.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
The bar there by the way, at the Legacy Club,
you can order half shots for if you're a bourbon
fan and pay half the price and sample many, many
different ones if you're a fan of whiskey bourbon scotches.
So I did that once and it was one of
the most phenomenal times. But the outside part is beautiful

(01:23:13):
if you're just looking for a hang.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Last thing I want to mention because we used to
you know, I always talk about when we were younger,
we did hold nightclub reviews and then Ace would come
on here and he gives hacks for the strip club crowd.
We were, Oh, we were so young. But now, like
you know, even like shows. I used to go to shows.
Now the only one I can ever recommend is Absent
because I haven't been to a show in town since,
like pre pandemic. I don't know if any of you

(01:23:38):
all go to shows. You know. The one thing that
I do want to say about about Vegas is, and
I'll say this every year, the best part about living
here has nothing to do with sports, because believe me,
there's better places than Las Vegas just depend on sports
in Nevada. But it's the music. If you are a
fan of music. I always say this when I have

(01:24:00):
been bigger. He's like San Francisco or DC, if there
was you know, if it's in your strike zone of
what you like musically, you'll go see it. But if
it's a little bit out of that, the schlep is
such that you're like, eh, again, I'm not going because
it's too much of a pain to go see so
and so act you know, wherever. But in Las Vegas,
the proximity of everything is the greatest part of all

(01:24:21):
of it, So it's nothing right. I always say Bruno
mar is the best show in town. If you live
here long enough you see it multiple times, I would
always recommend it. It's very expensive, but he's the you know,
he's the Michael Jackson of this era. But beyond right,
I always say, it's like, you know, Okay, I don't
really love Maroon five, but if Maroon five is right

(01:24:42):
next door at Mandalay Bay, right, or if Lady Gaga's
right next door at Park MGM, or you pick your artist,
I'll go see everybody because it's so interesting to expand
your musical horizons like that. So to me, that is
still the greatest and you brought up the Palms earlier.
My act like Tony Tony, Tony, Raphael Sadiq babyface the

(01:25:02):
fact that they're all at the Palms. I'm there all
the time watching those shows when i can. But even
like this, like there's a weekend in March where I'm
going out of town, I'm like, oh damn, Jeffrey Osborne
is at the Orleans. I'm serious, I'm so bummed about it. Right,
but every if you come to Vegas, my advice would
be just check to see what concerts are in town

(01:25:22):
that weekend because you will be a.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Mad excellent excellent Sphere.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
The Sphere is such a world class venue. It's so unique.
You'd go there just to see the venue. And the
Eagles are there. It's fantastic. A quick review. I did
see Absence and it is outstanding.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
The one thing that sets that aparts very adult show,
there's like almost twice as many half naked men then
there certainly are half naked women. So just throwing that
out there, that that was I found that little. You know,
the traditional vaudeville, you know, burlesque show in Vegas has
has the women and so your wife will probably like it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
A lot this. I'm so glad you brought up the
sphere because that would have been ridiculous of us not
to bring up the sphere. I never went to see
you two because I'm not a YouTube fan, but I'm
not also not an Eagles fan. But we finally went
to go see the Eagles, me and my my friends
Randy and Stacey. We went to see the Eagles, and
You're right, man, just for the visuals alone, I thought

(01:26:20):
they kind of like, I almost felt like the Eagles said,
you know, they almost like shot their load the first
half of the concert with the visuals because I think,
like I can he almost hear Don Henley being like
they should focus on us the next half of the show, right,
But visually it was unbelievable. I'm also recommended also.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
A lot of money to do the production for that,
so like you two had some songs where they had
no production on it less so to pay attention to
them more so, probably because they couldn't afford to where
they didn't want to spend the money on it, because
even though they're making bank on all the shows, that
the production costs on here are kind of insane.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
The only recommendation and is don't get seats under the
overhang on the first floor. Those are the only bad
seats where you can't see everything other than that, like
even at the top, which, by the way, if you're
scared of heights, it takes you a second to be like, whoa,
this is steep as all get out. But those are
great seats as well because you get to see you know,
the the scope of the visual. But all that is great.

(01:27:22):
So that'd be my last piece of advice. We forget
anything anything else. No, So it's one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
I publish a list of shows happening in the month,
so in a couple of days you'll get everything, all
the big shows, all the residencies happening uh in the
for the month, so everything from Sticks at the Venetian
to anym or Anima I'm not even sure how to
say it. The music is boring to me Anima over

(01:27:51):
at the sphere. So you can catch you can catch
a list of everything and make plans that way if
you want.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Mark singing, what's sticks this weekend? You know, I honestly
they were getting back. I heard they were getting back
for a couple of shows, and I just didn't know
if that was part of this weekend. He has the
greatest voice. So I I do love that theater there.
And I didn't know if the if dennisseem was coming
back with Sticks or not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
I don't, I don't know. And it it does look
like on the Venetian page that he's a member here,
so I will so, but honestly, it doesn't there's no
like specific listing for it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Gotcha, you can make the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Top ten songs.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Which one is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
It? Sticks? Is renegade?

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Right you know?

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Oh mom? And fear for my life?

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Oh yeah, from the law.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
By the way, I want to be a renegade and
get it still. Eat cheap, go up, up and down
the Boulder Highway and get a two fifty shrimp cocktail
on the skyline. And like I said, you can stop
at the Pass Casino and on Water Street use your
player's card. You didn't get like a ten dollars prime
ribbed denderds quite good?

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Yeah, all right, No, he's right, take your life in
your hands. But it's okay, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
You gotta you gotta cheap death, you gotta cheat death.
But other than that, it's a great recommendation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
For bargain anything for a bargain.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
That's a great call on sticks by the way, that's
a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It's like, Oh,
Michael McDonald's here with the Doobie Brothers. Sure I'll go
check that out. Before Walter Becker died with Steely Dan,
I was like, sure, I'll go see that. He had
a colostomy bag like while he's performing. So Styx is
a great example of like a band I'd never go
see them, but it's like, oh, they're all back together.

(01:29:38):
Sure it's right down the street. Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
Meltz at Melts Vegas for Mark Mark Meltzer like Seltzer.
Bill Krackenberger's at Bill Crackman with a K. You know,
his podcast is Wise Cracks And of course every Thursday
he's on with me on a numbers game for our
second hour, which is awesome eleven a m Eastern, eight
am Pacific. Bill and I never talked beforehand about what
we're going to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
We just.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
And then Steve Fessick, of course a nice person in person,
but at physic sports, well maybe not. So I'm just
saying only back to back winner of the Hilton superco
of the Hilton Super goodness, the only two time winner.
I keep saying back to back, you're the only two
time winter period should be met. Okay, thank you all
for listening. I hope there was something in there, whether restaurants, sports, betting,

(01:30:27):
or whatever that will help you out appreciate it. Next
week the Super Bowl fifty nine megapod, we'll try to
get Rufus in here for his annual appearance. Thanks for listening.

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