July 26, 2023 • 66 mins
We are still on hiatus until season 3, but Beauty Translated is back for a BONUS episode! Carmen and Janie Danger discuss The Barbie Movie! Tune in to hear the two discuss the hype, the movie, and the crazy conservative backlash!
This episode is self-recorded, produced, and published by me - Carmen, PLEASE excuse the horrible sound quality on my part, I was accidentally recording on my laptop mic T_T
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You might hear my bird a little bit. I think
you had.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I think every time I've recorded in my room, she's
she decides to start chatting.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, I see her right now.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
This bitch is about some birds.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I know. Yeah, I went.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
This trip to the zoo was very cute. I went
and saw. I went with my friends, two daughters. Oh yeah,
they they loved all.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm glad you got to show the future generation. I
know what. How were how was it gy?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
How was what?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
The red panda?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Is that his name?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, it's very cute.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I actually got a cute picture of it. It was
like all the way up in a tree, like we were.
We were like on the like bridge, and we were
all like looking down because there was one panda down there,
and like as we were walking away because it was
like kind of hard to see, we like looked up
and it was like in the middle of the tree
and we're like, ah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
All right, I'm back sooner than we thought. Season two
is over, But I'm here with Janey Danger for a
bonus episode. Hi, Jenney Danger.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Let's Popham.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
She's the zoo keeper's wife. She practically lives at the
Atlantis Shoo.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
This is the probably the third time we've recorded where
I literally had just gotten back from the zoo.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
This bitch lives at the zoo.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I mean you do live, all right, don't dox me?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Oh god, I'll cut that part out. She lives right
next I'm gonna cut all that up. We would not
dox Janey danger.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know, they can know that I love the zoo
without knowing where I live live. That that that's uh,
that's that's kind of it. Honestly, if you just censor it,
that would be funny. Part is now just theres the
(02:15):
part where you said like she lives boo, and then
like that would be a good that that then then
you could keep in that little riff to Okay, that's
going great with how to producer?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Oh god, I know for me, it kind of feels
like I have no direction. Yeah, no direction. The parents
are gone, so the children are playing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well uh I'll say this again, uh for the for
the people.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But I really I tried to be a.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Good journalist and okay, yeah seeing the movie, yeah I
want to. I just wanted to talk about the movie
and yeah, also talk about Yeah it's basically it. I
give a little kind of like review thoughts kind of thing,
and also talk about the like reception and how how
(03:08):
much movies are fucking back because this is a really
big weekend for movies and I haven't seen a movie
event like this in a while. All The only thing
I wanted to bring up was just kind of I
feel like this is in our wheelhouse, but like bringing
up like the kind of conservative reaction.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh yes, Oh, I'm very excited to have you here
to talk with me about the Barbie movie. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh wait, were we supposed to watch Barbie?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, you told me to watch the movie that everyone's
talking about right now, and I went and saw Sound
of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh do you not know Sound of Freedom? It's the
like conservative movie that's all right now?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Oh you got your finger on the pulse change, Yeah
you really do.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, I didn't watch Barbie because it looks gay and woke.
I watched Sound of Freedom because I actually care about
serious issues like human traffic and how to stop it.
And it turns out all you need is a well
funded CrossFit gem and then just dropping people off in
(04:10):
Mexico and they'll figure it out. They'll bring some kids home,
they'll bring some kids back.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, they'll do good things. They'll do great things.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I thinks great things. They'll make great movies.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
No, I'm really glad you saw that one.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I actually did not watch Sound of Freedom, but I
kind of want to just because it seems funny.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But I will digress on that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I could watch the pirated version, I guess.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, the funny thing is that it got like number
two movie in the box office, like I think, like
a week ago, and that's kind of why it was
like a big deal because movies are so.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Back, but there was like no movies out like.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Right, Well the big one was the new Indiana Jones movie.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So who was going to go see that?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well? I kind of want to see it, but but
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, well you are a moo. Okay, we should say
for the people that are listening that aren't aware, Jane
Danger is a movie. Girl. Yeah, girl dinner in bops movies.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's true. That's shit.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Girl dinner in a movie. Maybe that's what we can
call the episode.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Girl dinner in a movie. Yes, we'll call it that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I like I like movies.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
What I say, I always like lose people like when
I talk to like kind of like normal people in
real life, and uh, I don't know when.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
To see this movie from nineteen fifty about No.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I try not to do that, but like I do
find myself like when people give the kind of general like, so,
like what are your interests? And like I watch a
lot of movies and they say something like you saw
Avengers End Game?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You saw Inception? Yeah, I'm like, what was your movie
awakening Janie? Like, what was the one that opened it
up for you?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's a good question, I think I usually I think
I might say two thousand and one a Space Odyssey.
I actually, like I used to use the old Netflix.
So for some of your younger listeners who might know,
(06:20):
Netflix used to be a service where you would have
a queue of movies online and they would mail them
to your house. The would mail the DVD to your house,
you'd watch it, and you'd send it back and you'd
pay like fifteen ten bucks a month something like.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That for it. But then Blockbuster.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Put their hat in the ring and they had a
service where you could have three movies out at a time,
and if you take those three movies and return them
to the Blockbuster instead of putting them in the mail,
they will let you rent another three movies for that,
so you could have like six movies out at a time.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It is insane, And uh, for listeners that don't know,
I'm also an only child and I spent a lot
of my life just really unsupervised watching like hard R
rated movies. And I am also hella autistic, as listeners
probably are aware of. And yeah, so like when I
was like a kid, I.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Was I've never heard of trans people being.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's it's kind of new.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
They're they're making them different now.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I was.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I was patient zero.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
She started the epidemic.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, it's uh, it was me watching eight and a
half in my room and then I spilled over a
jar of chemicals. Yeah, and the the gayness and the
arts scene moviness all kind of formed a new thing.
But yeah, I was like really young, and I remember
like being interested in shit that like ten year olds
(07:56):
just like shouldn't be interested in, like uh for Drico
Fellini and shit like that my favorite. But yeah, when
I saw two thousand and one, I think that was
like the first movie. Like I definitely had liked a
lot of movies up till that point. There's probably a
few others I could mention that kind of clicked something
for me, But I really remember sitting down like almost
(08:18):
a three hour long movie, watching.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The whole thing in my room, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I think it was the first movie that like I
didn't really understand, but like I liked a lot. Like
I think, like the thing for me is that like
if I can just feel something even if I don't
understand it, And a lot of really good directors like
David lanch or Stanley Kubrick are really good at that,
and David.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Lynch is another one. Well, Holland Drive is my favorite movie.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And I also watched a Racer Head when I was
really young and all the same thing, Like I didn't
get it, but I was like, that was fucking weird.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And I'm going to think about that all week.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So there's something going on there.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Something there's there's I think movie magic is very real.
I'm a big believer in being on the movie.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Mindset and just movie pilled, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I was really sad the other like earlier this week,
and I watched the movie seven Samurai for the first time.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's four hour long movie, Oh my god, and.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
The whole time I just didn't think about what was
bothering me, and I was just like, this is awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, that, to me is the movie mindset. So I
just want to beg the question to you. Movie we've
came here to talk about. Is Barbie movie mindset?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I think it is.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So my brain has been washed in hot pink and
I am life and plastic.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah that's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, so yeah, the bar It's interesting you talk about
to thousand one of Space Odyssey because.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I didn't even realize that. But yes, it is interesting
that I said.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
That, because it's actually how they decided to first tease
the Barbie movie. Yes, like months and months and months ago.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yes, I remember the I remember the feed.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, the feed was blowing up with giant Margot Robbie
in like, you know, referencing the obelisk from two thousand
and one A Space Odyssey, And that's how the movie
opens up. So like they literally gave us the entire
opening scene.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I didn't expect that to be the opening.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, me either.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I guess this.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Do you want to like just talk about the movie, Like,
do you want to maybe kind of do like a
spoiler free thoughts first and then kind of get into
like the more meat of it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can do that because there might.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Be people that haven't seen it yet. And if you haven't, won,
I'm kind of surprised you're listening to this. But okay,
So I liked it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, I left it. I was obsessed with it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, I thought it was great. I'll be honest. I
I went in with kind of I expected a cute
movie that I would enjoy, and to be honest, I
got even more I thought I was.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I thought it was pretty.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Fucking great, honestly, I really Uh, I don't know. I
kind of like, I like Greta Gerwig, I like all
the I fucking love Ryan Gosling. He's one of the
best actors working today. And yeah, I don't know. I
wasn't really expecting because I saw a lot of like
(11:53):
mostly like, uh, I don't know, there's a lot of
gay people on the internet being very annoying, as as
gay people on the internet tend to do, and I
was expecting this to be something that like, even if
it's bad or even if it's okay, people would be like.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh my god, the barmy movie.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, so I think that's why I went in was
just kind of like medium loop warm expectations, And I
have to say I remember thinking about like halfway through it, like, damn,
this is really good.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And for me, what really.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Wins me over about this movie as that is just
very very funny. And I think Greta Gerwig and Noah
Bambach are very like they They've made a lot of
serious stuff, but they are like.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Funny people overall.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Both their movies have a lot of funny stuff in them,
and yeah, they were just I don't know. I think
it's also just been a while since I've gone to
a theater and seen a comedy. Comedies don't really tend
to get people in the seats like that. So yeah,
I just got to say that was what really like,
(13:06):
uh stuck out for me was that, Yeah, it's has
beautiful sets, it's very well made, it had a lot
of care put into it. Greta Gerwig is is a
good director, She's got a lot of skill. I think
Little Women was pretty emblematic of her good use of
color and.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
What brittle, brittle, brittle women. They drinking lots of water.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And so yeah, that's that's that's basically my general thoughts
of it, it was it gave me a little more
than just being a cute little movie that I would
kind of forget about. I think there was I think
there was a lot of care put into it that
I really appreciated as a as a movie girl.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yes, yeah, I have to say my feelings on it
are very similar because I went in with like literally
no feelings about if this was going to be a
good movie or a bad movie. I just knew, I
you know, all the advertising was so insane, all the
marketing was so insane. I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna go
see this fucking movie.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It did a very good job advertising for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yes, Yes, I was like, okay, you've got me. I'm
going to see this goddamn movie. And I just went
in not really knowing like what the plot was like,
having no idea what the like, having no idea what
this movie was going to be about. And I was
very pleasantly surprised. It exceeded my expectations of what I
thought a Barbie movie was going to be.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, Sam, they kept the plot pretty under wraps. Yeah,
Because the plot in the movie doesn't even really start
until about like fifteen to twenty minutes in. Yeah, and
I guess now would probably be a good time to
start talking about more.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Well, hold on, let's uh yeah, let's go a break. Yeah.
So yeah, Janie and I are going to get into
the We both love the movie. It exceeded our expectations.
We're going to get into the actual what goes on
in the movie, the meat and potatoes of the movie,
after the break. So please stay tuned and we'll be
(15:24):
right back. And we're back, all right. So yeah, why
don't we talk about what the first? I want to say,
So I just so that I want to say I
saw the movie twice. Oh, I saw the movie Okay
(15:47):
damn And the audience that you see the movie with
really made made the first viewing for me. So, for example,
I saw the first movie. The first time I saw
it was on Thursday night and I saw it with
Whissy magh at the Terra Theater. Yeah, like a premiere
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at the Terra Theater. It was very cute, you know
that everybody, like I just want to say, like everybody
was dressed up like this was a cultural event. Like
if you saw somebody wearing hot pink this weekend or
any shade of pink. Really, you knew that they had
either just gone to see the Barbie movie, or they
(16:28):
were going to see the Barbie movie, or they had
they were just wrapping Barbie, you know what I mean. Yeah,
and so and I live across the street from a
movie theater, and it has been like pink dressed people
going to and from the movie theater all weekend, which personally,
pink is like one of my favorite colors. I fucking
love it. I didn't know. Yeah, so yeah, let's talk
(16:51):
about the actual the actual movie itself.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Well, I also did kind of want to echo that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I mean, we could probably get more back into this later,
but I do really like that this has become an event, yeah,
because I haven't seen something like this happen in like
since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I think it's very very cool. And I also think it's.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Very funny because if you remember post twenty twenty, people
were saying, like theaters are dying, everything's just gonna go
to streaming, and it turns out wrong. People like going
to the movies, And that makes me very happy because
I think it is very good. It's I don't know,
I don't think it's like uniquely American.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But it's very like good.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think it's good, Like it's good that people can
go out and enjoy art.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Right and get dressed up and like, yea, make it fun.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I think it's really awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So yeah, and I think also to boot and yeah,
I also I was at work this week and I
heard people talking, like I heard people talking about Barbie
and Oppenheimer all week, like everywhere I've gone, and it's dope.
Like I think Greta Gerwig and Christopher Nolan are both
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like I have some criticisms of some of their art,
for sure, but I think they are both talented people
with a vision.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And the vision is not just.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Like, oh, people like superheroes, what if we had a
multiverse with all the superheroes, you know, like Barbie is
an existing ip, sure, but still it's like I said,
it was in good hands. It is with people that
care about it, that care about making a good movie.
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And so yeah, do you want to like take away
the plot?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, So we start out with the two thousand and
one a space Odyssey kind of like reference where it
just talks about the history of baby dolls and how
all dolls until Barbie was inced and whenever the hell
she was invented were babies, and it was you know,
just had to do with girls being mothers, and Barbie
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was the first like fashion doll who had her own
clothes and job and all of this. And then we
cut into the movie and it starts out with like
as you would expect, like a Malibu dream house like
style set where it literally looks like you.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Know, yeah, sets are gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, sets are immaculate.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah yeah that so yeah, and we get a very adorable,
like funny sequence and this is also kind of where.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The bespoke song from Lizo Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
She's heard little Rifts are pretty funny too, yes her.
So I think this is where you kind of get
a hint of like what the type of humor.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Is a lot of a lot of kind.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Of it's kind of like toy story a little bit
where it like kind of establishes like the rules of
Barbie Land. How like it is like a toy land
where you know, like there's jokes about how they don't
have genitals.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
There's no like water. Everything is.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
She gets in the shower, there's no water, she drinks
the cups, there's nothing there she has some toast and
it's she doesn't really eat it. And then she goes
to the beach and we meet, uh, we see all
the other barbies. There's Ray, there's Dualipa, there's are our
girl hard.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Enough, Yes, in her sailor outfit.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I love her a lot. I've always loved her. I
think it's very.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Funny that she used to be like a you might
not know anything about this, but she used to be
She's a guest on the show Red Scare, the.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Podcast I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, it's funny thinking now that she in like the
biggest fucking movie of the year and it's gonna have
a great career as an actress.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And Dasha like blew the bag.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
To be like like got fired off Succession just to
be like a right wing weirdo.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
What was What did she do on Succession? Was she
a writer?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
No, she was a Have you seen Succession?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I'm watching it right now.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Okay, So she comes in in season three and she's like,
she's an actress.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, she's an Yeah, she's an actress, like she's been
in movies and stuff. Yeah, I'm sorry, this is very tangential.
I just think it's funny that, like they were friends
at one point, and Harry Nef did the smart and
normal thing of being an actress making movies, being normal
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and you know, uh, getting money and being a good person.
And Dasha was like, I gotta talk to Alex Jones,
Like I gotta interview Alex Jones.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
It's like I have to. It's like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It's like you've got the opportunity to be like you're
to be successful and be happy, and you're like, no,
all these weirdos with pepe A v I is on
Twitter like I need them to like me.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So yeah, shots fired, Fuck you, Dasha.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Shots fired on the Beauty Translated podcast.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
But anyway, yeah, Harry Neff, isn't it She's dope? And
uh then we meet the kNs. We have the it's
it's the guy that played Shangshi, right.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah, I think is cute.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He is hot. He is hot for sure, but.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Allowed to like gush over him though with my boyfriend
next to me.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well you're safe with me, thank you. And of course,
uh Ryan Gosling, who uh is kind of really steals
the show for me in every every way. He's probably
my favorite part of this movie. I think he's just
like I love him like I love like like Drive
(23:06):
is one of my favorite movies. I like only God
forgives a lot too. You know a lot of people don't.
I think he's fucking awesome. Plays beyond the Pines, Like
he's so so been in so many good movies, had
such like a good career. But he's kind he's kind
of like the opposite of like Adam Sandler, who like
every once in a while has like a great dramatic role.
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Every once in a while, Ryan Gosling has like a
great comedic role.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, he's just so like his.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Timing is so good, his facial acting, everything is just
every almost every joke with him landed for me. Yeah
and yeah, so his Ken's job is is to beach beach. Yeah,
and it's kind of reminds me of the the I
(23:53):
think you should leave bit where Patty Harrison's job is tables.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Oh my god, I have not seen that, but I love.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's very funny.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah and yeah, and this kind of like, uh, the
plot doesn't like I said, the plot doesn't really start
until a little bit in because and I like this
about it. You just get like a good fifteen to
twenty minutes of just being in Barbie Lends.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
And I had no idea like what the movie was
going to be. I was like, what is this going
to be about? Yeah, what's going to drive the plot forward?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I think the first kind of nugget of like conflicts
is when they're dancing.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
They're having this glorious dance sequence.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's very funny, it's very well choreographed, it's very colorful with.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Do a Liipa song do a Lipa song, which is
a really good song. I really like it.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I actually didn't know that was her song, but oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
She it's her song she made for the movie, which,
by the way, I just want to say, I'm about
to buy the fucking yeah the Hot Pink Final very cool. Yeah,
but yeah, it's Doula PIPA's song. And I just want
to say I the first like time I remember like
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laughing like at like something and realizing like, oh, that's
really like tongue in cheek was when Harry nefts Barbie
is the one who's the DJ at the dance party,
and I just thought, like, that is fucking hilarious. They
would make the trance and oh yeah, and as I'm
watching the movie, you know. But then later, like the
next day, I saw somebody tweet the same thing. It
(25:34):
was hilarious. That's funny. Yeah, I wasn't observed that you
didn't notice she was the dah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I actually didn't know she was.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, she was in the DJ booth.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Is also the doctor.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, and then she came down from the DJ booth
and you're just like, Okay, I guess m M. It's
just playing.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So they're dancing, and Barbie uh says, uh, you guys,
does ever think about dying?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And record scratch?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, it's a record scratch? Yeah, And she said, I'm
just dying to dance. And this kind of gets into
the plot where so you play it with so she
she's having thoughts of death, and then she has she
has a kind of bad day where her feet uh
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are are flattening and they won't stay straight, like the
high heeled Barbie dolls.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
When she woke up on the second day after after
like laying in bed thinking about dying, I remember thinking like,
oh my god, this feels like Groundhog's Day or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I kind of got that vibe a little bit too, Yeah,
because I mean it would make sense that they live
like a groundhog Day type life, but like there's no uh,
but there's no Bill Murray to be like aware of it,
you know, right and uh yeah so uh. I Also,
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I gotta say a lot of feet in this movie.
I was not expecting all the feet. I'm curious if
that's a Noah bomb back thing or maybe Greta Yeah,
maybe she's uh she is like a true uh greats
or every great director has a foot fetish.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
True.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Also, Margot Robbie's feet in particular and once upon once
upon a Time in Hollywood and in Wolf of Wall
Street are very prominent.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So yeah, no, I mean, can I say she's got
pretty good feet? Like I think I get it.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
She's Margaret Robbie is a part time foot model, part
time actress.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah that this is all making sense now.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, so yeah, good feet to ten. I wasn't like
panting and sweating in the in the theater at all,
but yeah, I remember the rest of the movie. I
definitely didn't black out after the feet and.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Just remember the flat foot.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yes, that was very funny.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah that for her.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I don't want to like belabor like every single plot
point too much. But yeah, it's I did really like
that it just kind of took its time being in
the world before uh like establishing the plot because I'd
really like it reminded me of when I saw Avatar
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two and like the whole the whole middle of Avatar two,
like there's no real plot, Like they're just like in
the world and like swimming and doing stuff, and that
was my favorite part of that movie. I think, shit,
like that's really cool. It's it's like a it's it's
kind of patient filmmaking and and it trusts your audience
to just be like, look, look at these cool things.
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They're really nice.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And I like that a lot because otherwise you just
have to like imagine it yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I think there's too many writers directors that are
a little too eager to like to get it going.
And it's like, if you have like a really cool
world like this is, then yeah, spend some time in it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Soak it in. Let me let me hang out here.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
You know, since being a Avatar to you, you're the
people who are like they'd watch Avatar.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And then get sad that they can't go to Navy Land.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I wonder if that's gonna happen, like people get sad
that they can't go to.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, yeah, I could see that happening.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
For real, because notably, when the movie gets into the
real world, it is I wouldn't say it fully dips
for me, but it does kind of dip a little
bit for me when they're in the real world.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I wanted more of that patience that they spent in
Barbie Land. That's a little bit more of that's spent
equally in the real world because I was kind of
craving in that when we got to that part. I
was craving kind of like that kind of life size.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah it felt very Yeah, it felt it felt kind
of like life size to me too. And again like
this was another point where Ryan Gosling is just eating
everything alive.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like his whole sequence of him going.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Around trying to get a job and be like asking
for the doctor and all of those bits were really
fucking funny to me.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Wait, hold on, what about what did you think about
before we move on? What did you think about Kate
McKinnon as Weird Barbie.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I hate Kate McKinnon, but you do. I thought she
was very good.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I don't I love Weird Barbie was great.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I thought weird Barbie was great. Yeah, Well, I hate
is a strong word. I don't actually hate Kate McKinnon.
I think she's talented, but all I think she picks
just very obnoxious roles that I don't fucking like. So
that's kind of my opinion on her. And I think
that this was a role that is really like she
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was really good for So she was good. She was
good for me, And be honest, as far as the
cast goes, there's only one kind of weak link for me,
And you might disagree, but I didn't really like Will
Ferrell that much.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, I felt like so I felt like Will Ferrell's
character was not essential. Especially I agree after I saw
it the second time, I felt like Will Ferrell was
kind of just there to be Will Ferrell because I
feel like they wanted him to be like almost like
Mugatu or like just I don't know, and it wasn't
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giving it. Like.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Also, also, the Real World Park kind of felt like
off a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, and I was thinking about that and I wanted
I wanted them to spend a little bit more time
on those like, I mean, they did reference it a
little bit. She got arrested like a bunch of times.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I looked at my boyfriend when they said like, uh,
they said something like, she's bumping into things, she's stealing things,
she's getting arrested everywhere.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I was like, she's just like me for real.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It was literally just like me as a teenager getting.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I mean, I loved those sequences, but I just wanted
more of like the human interactions. It wasn't just like
people gawking at her, but people like I agree.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That's because that is a good like it's good. It's
good comedy, you know, like the kind of fish out
of wateriness. Yeah, is very funny, and that's why I
think a lot of Ryan Gosling ship was was so funny.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It was yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Also, I should mention that Greta Gerwig, being the woman
of culture, she is a fellow movie girl. She said
that a big part of her inspiration for this was
Jacques Tati and Jacques Denis, who made The Umbrellas of Cherburg,
which is a really cool, like colorful musical movie.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, I saw. I watched that letterboxed interview with her.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, you would dig that movie. It's really good.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And a movie called Playtime, which I haven't seen, but
I know that it's a very kind of like Kofka
esque movie about like, uh, corporate structures, and like when
you see like the Mattel office, it does feel very playtime.
So it's it's just a very funny place of inspiration
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to pull from for the Barbie movie, which I think.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Did you clock the trans symbol in the Mattel boardroom?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No, but I'm sure that some absolute freakazoid conservative guy
I have.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah. I was watching the movie and when and when
they went into the Motel boardroom for the first time,
I saw the trans symbol and I immediately thought to myself, like, Okay,
that's cool. But then my second thought was that's immediately
going to be like like some conservative dudes like screenshot,
(34:33):
Oh for sure, yeah, and be like it's inductorning the like.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So I guess, I guess this is a good time
to bring up I don't know if you saw the
Our friend of the show, Ben Shapiro, made a forty
three minute long response called Bend Shapiro destroys Barbie.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I want to talk about it. Had did you watch it?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I tried.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I want to talk about it for.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Journalists and purposes I really did try, but yeah, we
can put a pin in that.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, because that's what I definitely want to talk about,
Like I'm closing out, is like the public reception and
included in that being Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, I'll just say we can absolutely circle back to this.
But watching this movie, I saw that he made that video,
and then I watched the movie and I was like,
I I see why this is short circuiting conservatives.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh yes, oh.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, because we are our world is very fucked up now,
and I think that, like generally, this movie has a
very I think most of the messages of this movie
are very wholesome, very general and generally, like, I think
saying little girls can be who they want to be
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when they grow up a good message everyone can agree on. However,
in the world we live in today, you will have
been Shapiro be like, actually, sharing is not caring. That
is woke propaganda, and people like I do think there's
some like kind of libshit in the movie.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yea, I did cringe.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
A little bit that they brought up the patriarchy so much.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Oh yeah, that was that the patriarchy was basically the
villain of the movie.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yes, but I also I I didn't look that is
something that would annoy me.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I really don't like.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I like, if I'm watching a movie, I either want
it to be very very general or very very very specific.
And I like watching like like like a movie like
Judas in the Black Messiah is like a fiery ass
fucking like anti FBI like pro black like fucking movie
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like that is something that really would piss conservatives off.
It would piss liberals off too, And that's shit that
I like. I like when people are very just aggressive
when they're in their politics.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
This definitely isn't that.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And I definitely don't like when things are like to
live I don't know too liberally right.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Because then it just it's like it's whatever message you're
trying to make. Those people who are like more reactionary too,
like but woke buzzwords and stuff like the patriarchy, they're
going to immediately tune out, you know what what the
rest of the movie is about.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
And also I mean, just like speaking for me personally,
like I just have just kind of a reaction.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
To like, like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
It was kind of the problem with Velma was that, Yeah, yeah,
it was way too like neo libs.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's shit like that, like when a movie like the
has words like what was that Megan Trainer song that
stop all yr Man's plaining, like shut the fuck up, bitch.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, like it's too like too, it's too it's cringe.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It is ineffectual. It doesn't move the needle at all.
It is only the only people that resonates for are
liberals with yard signs that say like in this house,
we believe that. No, likee No, they updated it. There's
like a new yard sign dropped the DLC.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, there's like a new one now that's like updated
to include like I don't remember anymore. I just saw
it and remember being like, oh my god, this is
like the new thing.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
It's kind of like the progress flag how they just
keep adding.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, it was it was.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
About I was going to riffer this one.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I was just saying. It was it was something about
like I can't even remember what it was. But do
we want to take a wait? Uh? I want you
to wrap just wrap up your feelings about the movie
really quick. And how did you feel about Okay, how
did you feel about once we went back into Barbie Land?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Okay, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Will Ferrell literally had no like all those guys like
all that was funny, like ha ha ha, but what
the fuck was the point?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Some of it was funny, but yeah, you're right, it
really like. I didn't really realize that until after the movie.
But they don't do anything, literally no purpose. Yeah, they
they don't do it, and you know that doesn't that
doesn't bother me too much, but it is I feel
like they could have given something them more to do.
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They tried to put Barbie in the contraption, they tried
to put her in the device, the box, and she
didn't go in the box, and then they play that
fucking banging, asked Charlie.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That was a good yes, that first Charlie XCX song
I've heard. I want to say for the record that
this movie.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Has clap before, shut the funk up, and you've heard
I love it before.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
What's that one?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I don't care, I love it?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
That's her, Well she's on the song. Yeah wait it's ah,
I forgot that. Oh my god, I'm blinking. There's there's
some fucking twink like yelling like it's this person. I
can't remember that. Yeah, she's on the song, and you know,
boom clap the sound of my heart.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Okay, I guess I didn't, but I thought. I also
thought i'd heard Doula Pipa for the first time and
Billy Eyelash I.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Want to babyh Okay, I heard Billy Eilash because what's
her song?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
What?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
How have you never heard Billie Eilish before? Bad Guy?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
That's the song backer, I've heard the case at first,
I heard the ca.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Ca This is fucking me up?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
How do I know all the twinkie galic pop stars
and you don't like this? Seems like your beat more
than it's mine.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Mama might beat is the divas and those are just
little pop.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
First of all, fuck you for saying Charlie XCX is
and a diva. Actually mad at you for that.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
I'm talking to Annie.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I'm going to bottle my anger for a second, but
I am mad about that.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
I'm talking Grace Jones, I'm talking Annie Lennox.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I'm talking people that like forty year olds listen to exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Okay, I'm not forty though, but.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I just I'm not forty.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
It's not forty, but yeah, I'm just not. It's hard
to keep up with all the kids these days. I'm
okay with not keeping up all the time.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
So you like the Charlie song.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yes, I loved this. Sorry, loved the Charlie XCX song.
And it's like a chasing scene. Yeah, and I think
that it does uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
The So the movie dips a little in reality for
the reasons we said, but I think it gets way
better when they go the reverse Wes Anderson path through
the through.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Back to Barbie Lands. And we should, I guess mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
The actual like plot of the movie is it sets
up these kind of toy story iss rules that kind
of don't make sense sometimes. But it's okay that the
Barbies are being played with in real life. Margot Robbie's
being played with in real life, And she's off to
reality to go find who's fucking with Barbie, who's fucking
her shit up, who's given her flat feet? Probably is
(42:47):
it me? Am I playing with a Barbie's feet right now?
I don't know, but uh yeah. So she goes back,
she finds this little girl. She thinks it's gonna be
the little girl plot twist. It's actually the little girl's mom.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's just some woke team it calls are a fascist.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh yeah, That was also a very funny joke when
she's like, I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Control the railroad, yes, and the and the chain of
commerce or whatever. She said, Yeah, I love commerce.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, that's that's very funny to me, that one.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
But I hated the whole little girl part with that.
That made me cringe with like, I know that libs
are going to watch that not lips.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Well, I think that the I think that's the joke though.
I think that's it's the joke that she doesn't she's
calling Barbie a fascist, but she doesn't know what a
fascist means, right, And also there's kind of another meta
joke that Barbie doesn't know what it means. Barbie like
she probably like looked up what a fascist is and
was like that can't be me.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
What.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
So they get back to barbie Land and then honestly,
this this probably is where my favorite part of the
movie is because ken Lee's reality early because he sees
how dope men have it in the real world, and
he goes back and he liberates the Kens and they're
drinking beer, they're fucking wrestling, they all really like horses
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and shit.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Because he originally thought so, Like he steals a bunch
of books in the real world that are like about
the patriarchy or whatever, and like one book about horses,
and he originally thought that the patriarchy was about men
who ride horses.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
This is silly.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
I love that too. I love that too.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
And I think that, like I think, if you want
to be like annoying about it, there is like a
kind of like neo feminist message there about that patriarchy.
But I'm glad that I don't really think the movie's
about that. I think the movie for it's uh intended audience,
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it trusts that you know that the patriarchy is is
bad and that you know that sexism is bad, and
it uses that, uh some that trust in the audience
to be to make jokes that like, yeah, none of
these people like they're they're fucking dolls.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
They don't understand what the patriarchy.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Is, and all you really need to know, uh is that, yeah,
it's kind of hard to be a woman today. And
that ends up being like the main lesson and I
saw it. We've been going on long, so I'm trying
to trying to get to like the the ending where she.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Chooses womanhood even though yeah, being.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
A woman is hard.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, and America Ferrera like realizes like that, Yeah, that's all.
That's all the kind of the that's kind of the
general message, Like yeah, there is like stuff about like
sexism and stuff, but I don't think that that is
really like what. I don't think that's the main thing.
(45:54):
I think the main thing is a very more general
thing about like choosing to be who you are and
like yeah, she's yeah, And I liked the message with
Ken too. That's like, you know, boys, you can just
be a dumb little guy too. It's fine, like you don't.
You don't have to define yourself based off like another
person or your like relationships or all of these outside things.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
You can just be yourself. You can just be Ken.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, and uh yeah, and that all comes after like
probably like I think the highlight of the movie for me,
which is the beach fight musical number.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yes, I'm just Ken, And then it breaks into that
very like it's like possy it is.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, it's kind of Bob Fosse all that jobs. Yeah yeah,
And it also it's cutting between like the saving Private
Ryan like on the beach with like uh like toys
and and again like that's that's like the wholesome humor
that like, I think kids can gigle lot, adults can
gig a lot.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
It's just silly, it's absurd.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
And that's what made this movie really fun to me
is that, like it's kind like a lot of people
say stuff like, you know, you just turn your brain
off to watch a movie, and like sometimes I do
that and when I watch dumb shit, and I'm fine
with that. But I didn't feel like I had to
turn my brain off that much. I was I was engaged.
And I think that Another notable thing is that Greta
(47:30):
Gerwig wrote this like towards her daughter that she recently had,
and yeah, yeah, and I think that there's a very
sweet message about like you know, motherhood and womanhood and
sisterhood and all the hoods like that, right right, yeah,
And I think that's a very general thing that most
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of us can agree on and find sweet and walk
out of the movie like that was.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
That was a good fucking time. I like that.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah. I cried, I tear it up a little.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
I didn't cry, but I sear it up a little.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Oh, I was like watershed. We'll talk more about it
when we come back from a quick okay, and we're back.
(48:23):
So yeah, the movie really touched me obviously, like it
had I thought, you know, yeah, like the villain of
the movie. They definitely tried to make it seem like
the villain, like you know, the main like the patriarchy
and all of that was like the main part of
the plot, but really it does have a lot of
deeper questions that it asks, and for me, those were
the things that resonated with me, and especially as.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
A transgren I agree.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Yeah, I felt like there was a lot of like
allegories of transness in the movie that I was probably
adding in there myself, you know, like you know.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I didn't really think about that, but you raised a
good point, you know, like that it that in a way,
like Margot Robbie has like, uh, reality dysphoria, you know, right,
Like she like wants to be real but she's not,
and she's like realizing like all these like like I
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don't know, it's kind of like when you realize your
trends and you're like, oh wait, hold up, like all
of this is wrong, like and like, yeah, that's I
definitely see that now that you mention it.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yeah, And it felt like just it felt like her
journey to womanhood as yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
You know, I mean it literally is.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Yeah literally yeah, And the movie ends and she gets.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
A neo vagina, yes exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
And I was like when I saw that part, I
was like, oh, this like I confirmed it for me
in my head, Like the first time I was watching it,
I was already thinking like, wow, this really like resonates
with me, like with a bunch of like transness and stuff.
And then I the end where she's like, I'm here
to see my guy to college just because she makes
a joke earlier in the movie or they really Yeah,
(50:08):
she goes up to a bunch of construction workers and.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Is that neither of us? That was very funny too, Yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Was hilarious and she goes, I don't have a vagina
and the guy goes, that's And I was living for
like those scenes, especially like even just the scenes of
like her and the roller blades walk in Venice Beach,
she you know, being docked at like that, and like
(50:37):
I resonated with that. I mean I think a lot
of women might resonate with that if they've ever dressed
up and like gone forward. Yeah, but as a trans
woman especially it's like feeling like.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah, and I think that a lot of stuff like that.
Like I mean, at the end of the day, this
is a movie aimed at like like it it's I
wouldn't say it's quite a kid's movie, but it is
a movie that like you can bring your kids to.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
And I think that adult jokes are going to go
over kids heads for sure.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
And I think there's nothing that's like that dirty and
at all that's that's gonna like anger people except Ben Shapiro,
who got very mad about the beach off scene.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
He knows what it means and kids don't.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, it was like it's a homosexual masturbation joke that
goes on for ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Oh my god, it's no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Let's talk about let's talk about the response. Yeah. Yeah.
First I want to say that i've seen like annoying
queers complaining about the movie. Obviously it's not a perfect film,
and it's literally a movie about barbiees.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
I haven't seen that much complaining about it, to be honest, I.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Haven't, but I've seen like a couple of people online
being like m Barbie movie. Like, I feel like there
are some people that expected it to be like a
fucking gender abolition movie. Oh god, and like we're mad
that it, Like I guess reinforced the binary with the
whole Ken and Barbie thing, and it's.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Like, okay, that's Alan erasure. Alan was a non binary
code of al.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I love Michael Sarah and I was glad that he
got to have his little moment as Alan was great.
He's a one of a kind weird guy. Like they
don't make weird guys like that anymore. So shouts out
to him, shouts out to him.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah he made He was great for comedic relief.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
I haven't seen all that much, so I've been interested
in the react reaction to this too, because, uh, I
find it to be something that, like, as I've said,
is very general and it's kind of the like, yeah,
I mean they're gonna get mad about like, oh, all
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the kids are are stupid guys, and then at the
end they they're they're still subservient to women, and that's
what liberals want, a world where men and where women
are more powerful than.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Men, like the dominatrixes, like with the whips.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, And yeah, so I
expected that, but I what I didn't expect but I should.
Is like kind of what I said earlier about how
like you can have very vanilla movies, but a lot
of the conservative uh like reaction commentary sphere is dominated
(53:30):
by just bitching about kids movies and ship. Yeah, yeah,
and I've been this is Ben Shapiro's beat, Like he's
always complaining about kids movies. Had there's a very funny
video where he's complaining about the the biffity Boppity boutique
has gone woke.
Speaker 4 (53:48):
What it's like a it's like a boutique thing at
like Disney World, and hearing his fucking squeaky ass voice
like the bitty boutique has gone woke.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Very funny.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Oh my god, I feel so bad for him. Not really,
but yeah, that's that's a sad life, because yeah, it
really is like a lot of the things that are
put in there are put in like that are put
in references for like the adults in the movie theater,
and then maybe even the kids who like grow up
and watch it later, but most of the kids, like
the beach Off thing, kids don't know like no, I
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was watching Austin Powers when I was a child.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Oh yeah, I don't know what the.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Fuck of Onna hump a Lot meant, you know, but
I was fucking laughing about it. I was like, that's
so funny, you know. So it's just like people, Yeah,
it's selective outrage, and especially if it has anything to
do with like women or gay people.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, then it's fucking woke. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
And yeah, so I just think it's very funny having
to see like conservatives like try to get mad when
like there isn't even anything thing to get mad at,
like like having because saying sharing is caring. I mean,
if you think about it, it is kind of a
communistic value. So it is like I don't know, when
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you push reactionaries, like when you force them to react
to something like even though it's not reactionable, then you
really get to see like their true beliefs. Then you
really get to Yeah, and when they when put when
down to it, they will say, no, sharing is not
caring and no, you cannot grow up to be whoever
(55:35):
you want, like fuck you, and that's you can't be
whoever you want. You have to be who I think
you should be, and that is I don't know. I
I kind of like the I think that's kind of
a good sign that, like the the culture war grievance,
like pushed to its logical extent, is just going to
(55:56):
end with people, because normal people are going to see
that and be like, I don't know what the bibbity
boppity boutique is, whether it's woke or not.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
Most people can't even fucking afford to go to Disney
and like worry about what they're selling it Disney.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Most people are dressing up in their cute little pink
outfits and having a good little weekend at the movies,
and I think that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
And yeah, I enjoyed seeing all the people out. Seeing
it in two different audiences was really cool, just because
like the Whissy Mag audience was definitely the more lively
of the two. Sure, yeah, they were laughing at every joke.
It was just like very like on beat. And then
I saw it with an audience that was just dead
silent the whole time.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Oh my audience was that I had a packed like amc.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
Excuse me at like eight o'clock on a Friday, and
it was, uh, I don't know. The very front row
had a bunch of like teenagers, Like look, I saw
this guy like scrolling his Instagram, which like so many times.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
This movie boring.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah, it literally was that like looking at family guye clips.
But everyone in my theater loved it, yeah, saying there
was a lot of outfits and like it was a
lot of laughing, a lot of.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Yeah people clapped at the end and like it was a.
Speaker 1 (57:16):
Whole movie magic. Yeah, we loved it.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
Yeah, and I really can't like I just like this
weekend has brought me so much serotonin, just in terms
of like I haven't felt like it. This weekend has
given me the kind of like connectedness I feel when
I'm on mushrooms, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Okay, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
I feel connected to people in.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
This sense, like when I'm on mushrooms, I just feel
like I have way too many teeth in my mouth
and I gotta start getting them out of there. I'm
way too connected to my sixty seven teeth that keep
coming in.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
That is horrifying. I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Don't think about your teeth on mushrooms. That's Jamie Mind's.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Danny dangerous advice. Well, yeah, so how far did you
make it into the Ben Shapira with you?
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (58:07):
Yeah, I so I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
You know, I've brought this up a lot, but I
watch a lot of like conservative stuff, you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (58:17):
It's important to know, Like I like, obviously not like
all the time, but I think it's important to know
what the fuck those crazy people are talking about it.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
I agree, And it's also kind of it's funny to me,
and it's also like, I think it's a good way,
so I uh, just to kind of understand their talking
points and they're like dialogue. Try so if you ever
come across one of these freakazoids in real life, you
might have a better chance at owning them because I
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like owning people in the marketplace of ideas a lot.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
So I tried.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
I thought I made it about halfway through. I was
watching at one point two five speed because.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
He sounds great at that speed.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
I'm sure I got my two things. I gotta say one,
it was very boring because I knew everything he was
gonna say, Like, I knew everything he was gonna have
an issue with. And even when I was in the
theater watching it, I was like able to like clock like,
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conservatives are gonna be mad about this because they're fucking huge,
fucking cry babies and they're mad about everything, and they're
just perpetually like signaling their vices, like hey, guys, I'm
mad about this, and we should all be mad about this.
And like so I understood. I already knew what he
was gonna say. And then so it wasn't very interesting
for me to hear it because I could have just
(59:45):
made it up in my head.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Did he say anything about the trans symbol.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
Uh, I don't know if I no, I don't think
he noticed that. But he brought up pryn F a lot.
Speaker 3 (59:54):
Oh god, well, when somebody notices that, he'll be all
over that.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
When he brought up Harry n F like youth, leave
her the fuck alone, leave her alone?
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
What did he say? Oh my god, I don't want
to know. It was probably just like calling her man over.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Oh there was one one funny part. He said her
voice is deeper than mine. I was like, that's not
very hard to do. I mean, yeah, that's that's totally
a cell phone, Like yeah, I want to clip that
and just kind of I can find it for you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
It's like, yeah, because she's very obvious.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
There's one that's a that's a trans barbie and it's
very obvious because she's got deep but she's really tall
and her voice is deeper than mine, Like, yeah, you're
five foot two and your voice is like I have
to use like a high pass filter to be able
to listen to you or else is like a fucking
dog whistle. And yeah, that was like the I couldn't
(01:00:53):
finish it because I don't think I've ever sat down
to actually watch a video like of Ben Shapiro that's
that long, like that Jesus fucking Christ. His voice is
legitimately so shrill. I would have rather listened to Gilbert
Godfree You or Fran Dresser or any of these bitches
like talk Ben Ben Shapiro. There's like a certain annoying
(01:01:16):
frequency that his voice rests at that is sid.
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
So yeah, he's like he's got such a punishable everything
voice face.
Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I'll beat him to death with the hammer.
Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yeah, period, inspired and Ben Shapiro on the Beauty Translated podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I'll forgivesha one day.
Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Maybe, Well, do we have any other final thoughts about
the movie or have we pretty much roasted Ben Shapiro
to death?
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I feel like we're good.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I don't know, I should have maybe taken some notes,
but I feel like I got out got out what
I need to say.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I really liked it. Eight out of ten.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah, very colorful, very fun. Honestly, I could have done
one more musical number.
Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Yeah, that would have been nice. I could have There's
probably some deleted scenes or something that are probably maybe fun.
Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Yeah, it's very sweet, touching at times, which is unexpected.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
H Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
The only things I kind of didn't like, I guess honestly.
One other thing that I haven't brought up yet is
that at the end of the day, not to sound
like a woke, schoold leftist, but it is a commercial
at the.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
End of the day, and it does.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Yeah, it's gonna move Mattel units even oh yeah, even
if it is self aware to the degree that it is,
it is a commercial, and I guess I do wish
that we could have movies like this without their being
attached IP to it. That's uh, gonna sell things. But
(01:03:07):
I like the Lego movie too, so I mean it's
I'm glad it exists. It's really good. I'm glad to
see that the cast, especially Greta grow I can know
a bomb Backer getting their shine because they've been in
the trenches for a long time doing awesome stuff and trust.
Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Well, yeah, thank you, I mean, thank you so much
for being here to share these thoughts with us.
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, we should do.
Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
If the people like this, I would be down to
do more movie episodes.
Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
So well, I'm wanting to because covering the news is
sends me into a spy.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Movies are fun.
Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Movies are fun. News is depressing.
Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yeah, news is depressing.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Yeah journalist. All right, Well, Jane, thank you so much
for being here. Tell the listeners where they can find you,
follow you, and do you have anything coming up for
people to check you out at.
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Yeah, so I've been I've been working on the new
album a lot more lately. I might have a single
out soon. I can't really make any promises, but uh yeah,
things have been coming along. I put together a new
band because of the allegations. Now just kidding, just kidding,
Uh my my ba, my basis moved, My Basis moved
because of the allegations.
Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
No, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Uh, but my band is all trans woman now it's
five trans woman.
Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
It's pretty cool, so bad.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's exciting and uh uh yeah, I
don't know, uh I think now that there's like three
different twitters.
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I think I'm still at sensitive Janey on Twitter, at
wife Sucker on Blue Sky. It's X fuck you second
time I'm yelling at you today. I think I'm at
wife Sucker. Oh no, I'm Janey underscore Danger. Oh bitch,
do you want to find me? Just google Janey Danger.
(01:05:08):
I'll pop up. I do have a link tree.
Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
In the episode description.
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
And also if you're if you're a movie head, let's
follow each other on letterbox because I use letterbox.
Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Fuck yeah, I okay, I have paid for letterboxed pro.
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Oh I do too, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Have not been using it like I should because I
have not put any reviews in there recently. But yees
follow me on letterbox also for my two brain cells
reviews on movies.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
That's the way you got it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I mean, there's too many, so many people pretending to
be smart on letter bottoms.
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
So I know, right, we need more people like you. Well,
thank you so much for being danger. We will see
Wait did you say there was.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
A show to promote No, we like we kind of
has just like got our set list like back together
since like rebuilding the band from the ashes but yeah,
next time I probably will. So yeah, I'm kind of
trying to get shows right now.
Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Okay, book Jane Danger Yeah yeah, and go see the
Barbie film and support the transigenda. Yeah. Thank you so
much for listening. We will see you in season three.
Bye bye
You might hear my bird a little bit. I think
you had.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I think every time I've recorded in my room, she's
she decides to start chatting.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, I see her right now.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
This bitch is about some birds.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I know. Yeah, I went.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
This trip to the zoo was very cute. I went
and saw. I went with my friends, two daughters. Oh yeah,
they they loved all.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm glad you got to show the future generation. I
know what. How were how was it gy?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
How was what?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
The red panda?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Is that his name?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, it's very cute.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I actually got a cute picture of it. It was
like all the way up in a tree, like we were.
We were like on the like bridge, and we were
all like looking down because there was one panda down there,
and like as we were walking away because it was
like kind of hard to see, we like looked up
and it was like in the middle of the tree
and we're like, ah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
All right, I'm back sooner than we thought. Season two
is over, But I'm here with Janey Danger for a
bonus episode. Hi, Jenney Danger.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Let's Popham.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
She's the zoo keeper's wife. She practically lives at the
Atlantis Shoo.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
This is the probably the third time we've recorded where
I literally had just gotten back from the zoo.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
This bitch lives at the zoo.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I mean you do live, all right, don't dox me?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Oh god, I'll cut that part out. She lives right
next I'm gonna cut all that up. We would not
dox Janey danger.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know, they can know that I love the zoo
without knowing where I live live. That that that's uh,
that's that's kind of it. Honestly, if you just censor it,
that would be funny. Part is now just theres the
(02:15):
part where you said like she lives boo, and then
like that would be a good that that then then
you could keep in that little riff to Okay, that's
going great with how to producer?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Oh god, I know for me, it kind of feels
like I have no direction. Yeah, no direction. The parents
are gone, so the children are playing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well uh I'll say this again, uh for the for
the people.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But I really I tried to be a.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Good journalist and okay, yeah seeing the movie, yeah I
want to. I just wanted to talk about the movie
and yeah, also talk about Yeah it's basically it. I
give a little kind of like review thoughts kind of thing,
and also talk about the like reception and how how
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much movies are fucking back because this is a really
big weekend for movies and I haven't seen a movie
event like this in a while. All The only thing
I wanted to bring up was just kind of I
feel like this is in our wheelhouse, but like bringing
up like the kind of conservative reaction.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh yes, Oh, I'm very excited to have you here
to talk with me about the Barbie movie. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh wait, were we supposed to watch Barbie?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, you told me to watch the movie that everyone's
talking about right now, and I went and saw Sound
of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh do you not know Sound of Freedom? It's the
like conservative movie that's all right now?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Oh you got your finger on the pulse change, Yeah
you really do.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, I didn't watch Barbie because it looks gay and woke.
I watched Sound of Freedom because I actually care about
serious issues like human traffic and how to stop it.
And it turns out all you need is a well
funded CrossFit gem and then just dropping people off in
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Mexico and they'll figure it out. They'll bring some kids home,
they'll bring some kids back.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, they'll do good things. They'll do great things.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I thinks great things. They'll make great movies.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
No, I'm really glad you saw that one.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I actually did not watch Sound of Freedom, but I
kind of want to just because it seems funny.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But I will digress on that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I could watch the pirated version, I guess.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, the funny thing is that it got like number
two movie in the box office, like I think, like
a week ago, and that's kind of why it was
like a big deal because movies are so.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Back, but there was like no movies out like.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Right, Well the big one was the new Indiana Jones movie.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So who was going to go see that?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well? I kind of want to see it, but but
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, well you are a moo. Okay, we should say
for the people that are listening that aren't aware, Jane
Danger is a movie. Girl. Yeah, girl dinner in bops movies.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's true. That's shit.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Girl dinner in a movie. Maybe that's what we can
call the episode.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Girl dinner in a movie. Yes, we'll call it that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I like I like movies.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
What I say, I always like lose people like when
I talk to like kind of like normal people in
real life, and uh, I don't know when.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
To see this movie from nineteen fifty about No.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I try not to do that, but like I do
find myself like when people give the kind of general like, so,
like what are your interests? And like I watch a
lot of movies and they say something like you saw
Avengers End Game?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You saw Inception? Yeah, I'm like, what was your movie
awakening Janie? Like, what was the one that opened it
up for you?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's a good question, I think I usually I think
I might say two thousand and one a Space Odyssey.
I actually, like I used to use the old Netflix.
So for some of your younger listeners who might know,
(06:20):
Netflix used to be a service where you would have
a queue of movies online and they would mail them
to your house. The would mail the DVD to your house,
you'd watch it, and you'd send it back and you'd
pay like fifteen ten bucks a month something like.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That for it. But then Blockbuster.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Put their hat in the ring and they had a
service where you could have three movies out at a time,
and if you take those three movies and return them
to the Blockbuster instead of putting them in the mail,
they will let you rent another three movies for that,
so you could have like six movies out at a time.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It is insane, And uh, for listeners that don't know,
I'm also an only child and I spent a lot
of my life just really unsupervised watching like hard R
rated movies. And I am also hella autistic, as listeners
probably are aware of. And yeah, so like when I
was like a kid, I.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Was I've never heard of trans people being.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's it's kind of new.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
They're they're making them different now.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I was.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I was patient zero.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
She started the epidemic.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, it's uh, it was me watching eight and a
half in my room and then I spilled over a
jar of chemicals. Yeah, and the the gayness and the
arts scene moviness all kind of formed a new thing.
But yeah, I was like really young, and I remember
like being interested in shit that like ten year olds
(07:56):
just like shouldn't be interested in, like uh for Drico
Fellini and shit like that my favorite. But yeah, when
I saw two thousand and one, I think that was
like the first movie. Like I definitely had liked a
lot of movies up till that point. There's probably a
few others I could mention that kind of clicked something
for me, But I really remember sitting down like almost
(08:18):
a three hour long movie, watching.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The whole thing in my room, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I think it was the first movie that like I
didn't really understand, but like I liked a lot. Like
I think, like the thing for me is that like
if I can just feel something even if I don't
understand it, And a lot of really good directors like
David lanch or Stanley Kubrick are really good at that,
and David.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Lynch is another one. Well, Holland Drive is my favorite movie.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And I also watched a Racer Head when I was
really young and all the same thing, Like I didn't
get it, but I was like, that was fucking weird.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And I'm going to think about that all week.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So there's something going on there.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Something there's there's I think movie magic is very real.
I'm a big believer in being on the movie.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Mindset and just movie pilled, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I was really sad the other like earlier this week,
and I watched the movie seven Samurai for the first time.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's four hour long movie, Oh my god, and.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
The whole time I just didn't think about what was
bothering me, and I was just like, this is awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, that, to me is the movie mindset. So I
just want to beg the question to you. Movie we've
came here to talk about. Is Barbie movie mindset?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I think it is.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So my brain has been washed in hot pink and
I am life and plastic.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah that's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, so yeah, the bar It's interesting you talk about
to thousand one of Space Odyssey because.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I didn't even realize that. But yes, it is interesting
that I said.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
That, because it's actually how they decided to first tease
the Barbie movie. Yes, like months and months and months ago.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yes, I remember the I remember the feed.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, the feed was blowing up with giant Margot Robbie
in like, you know, referencing the obelisk from two thousand
and one A Space Odyssey, And that's how the movie
opens up. So like they literally gave us the entire
opening scene.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I didn't expect that to be the opening.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, me either.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I guess this.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Do you want to like just talk about the movie, Like,
do you want to maybe kind of do like a
spoiler free thoughts first and then kind of get into
like the more meat of it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can do that because there might.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Be people that haven't seen it yet. And if you haven't, won,
I'm kind of surprised you're listening to this. But okay,
So I liked it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, I left it. I was obsessed with it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, I thought it was great. I'll be honest. I
I went in with kind of I expected a cute
movie that I would enjoy, and to be honest, I
got even more I thought I was.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I thought it was pretty.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Fucking great, honestly, I really Uh, I don't know. I
kind of like, I like Greta Gerwig, I like all
the I fucking love Ryan Gosling. He's one of the
best actors working today. And yeah, I don't know. I
wasn't really expecting because I saw a lot of like
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mostly like, uh, I don't know, there's a lot of
gay people on the internet being very annoying, as as
gay people on the internet tend to do, and I
was expecting this to be something that like, even if
it's bad or even if it's okay, people would be like.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh my god, the barmy movie.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, so I think that's why I went in was
just kind of like medium loop warm expectations, And I
have to say I remember thinking about like halfway through it, like, damn,
this is really good.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And for me, what really.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Wins me over about this movie as that is just
very very funny. And I think Greta Gerwig and Noah
Bambach are very like they They've made a lot of
serious stuff, but they are like.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Funny people overall.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Both their movies have a lot of funny stuff in them,
and yeah, they were just I don't know. I think
it's also just been a while since I've gone to
a theater and seen a comedy. Comedies don't really tend
to get people in the seats like that. So yeah,
I just got to say that was what really like,
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uh stuck out for me was that, Yeah, it's has
beautiful sets, it's very well made, it had a lot
of care put into it. Greta Gerwig is is a
good director, She's got a lot of skill. I think
Little Women was pretty emblematic of her good use of
color and.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
What brittle, brittle, brittle women. They drinking lots of water.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And so yeah, that's that's that's basically my general thoughts
of it, it was it gave me a little more
than just being a cute little movie that I would
kind of forget about. I think there was I think
there was a lot of care put into it that
I really appreciated as a as a movie girl.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yes, yeah, I have to say my feelings on it
are very similar because I went in with like literally
no feelings about if this was going to be a
good movie or a bad movie. I just knew, I
you know, all the advertising was so insane, all the
marketing was so insane. I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna go
see this fucking movie.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It did a very good job advertising for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yes, Yes, I was like, okay, you've got me. I'm
going to see this goddamn movie. And I just went
in not really knowing like what the plot was like,
having no idea what the like, having no idea what
this movie was going to be about. And I was
very pleasantly surprised. It exceeded my expectations of what I
thought a Barbie movie was going to be.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, Sam, they kept the plot pretty under wraps. Yeah,
Because the plot in the movie doesn't even really start
until about like fifteen to twenty minutes in. Yeah, and
I guess now would probably be a good time to
start talking about more.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Well, hold on, let's uh yeah, let's go a break. Yeah.
So yeah, Janie and I are going to get into
the We both love the movie. It exceeded our expectations.
We're going to get into the actual what goes on
in the movie, the meat and potatoes of the movie,
after the break. So please stay tuned and we'll be
(15:24):
right back. And we're back, all right. So yeah, why
don't we talk about what the first? I want to say,
So I just so that I want to say I
saw the movie twice. Oh, I saw the movie Okay
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damn And the audience that you see the movie with
really made made the first viewing for me. So, for example,
I saw the first movie. The first time I saw
it was on Thursday night and I saw it with
Whissy magh at the Terra Theater. Yeah, like a premiere
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at the Terra Theater. It was very cute, you know
that everybody, like I just want to say, like everybody
was dressed up like this was a cultural event. Like
if you saw somebody wearing hot pink this weekend or
any shade of pink. Really, you knew that they had
either just gone to see the Barbie movie, or they
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were going to see the Barbie movie, or they had
they were just wrapping Barbie, you know what I mean. Yeah,
and so and I live across the street from a
movie theater, and it has been like pink dressed people
going to and from the movie theater all weekend, which personally,
pink is like one of my favorite colors. I fucking
love it. I didn't know. Yeah, so yeah, let's talk
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about the actual the actual movie itself.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Well, I also did kind of want to echo that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I mean, we could probably get more back into this later,
but I do really like that this has become an event, yeah,
because I haven't seen something like this happen in like
since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I think it's very very cool. And I also think it's.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Very funny because if you remember post twenty twenty, people
were saying, like theaters are dying, everything's just gonna go
to streaming, and it turns out wrong. People like going
to the movies, And that makes me very happy because
I think it is very good. It's I don't know,
I don't think it's like uniquely American.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But it's very like good.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think it's good, Like it's good that people can
go out and enjoy art.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Right and get dressed up and like, yea, make it fun.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I think it's really awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So yeah, and I think also to boot and yeah,
I also I was at work this week and I
heard people talking, like I heard people talking about Barbie
and Oppenheimer all week, like everywhere I've gone, and it's dope.
Like I think Greta Gerwig and Christopher Nolan are both
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like I have some criticisms of some of their art,
for sure, but I think they are both talented people
with a vision.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And the vision is not just.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Like, oh, people like superheroes, what if we had a
multiverse with all the superheroes, you know, like Barbie is
an existing ip, sure, but still it's like I said,
it was in good hands. It is with people that
care about it, that care about making a good movie.
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And so yeah, do you want to like take away
the plot?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, So we start out with the two thousand and
one a space Odyssey kind of like reference where it
just talks about the history of baby dolls and how
all dolls until Barbie was inced and whenever the hell
she was invented were babies, and it was you know,
just had to do with girls being mothers, and Barbie
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was the first like fashion doll who had her own
clothes and job and all of this. And then we
cut into the movie and it starts out with like
as you would expect, like a Malibu dream house like
style set where it literally looks like you.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Know, yeah, sets are gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, sets are immaculate.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah yeah that so yeah, and we get a very adorable,
like funny sequence and this is also kind of where.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The bespoke song from Lizo Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
She's heard little Rifts are pretty funny too, yes her.
So I think this is where you kind of get
a hint of like what the type of humor.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Is a lot of a lot of kind.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Of it's kind of like toy story a little bit
where it like kind of establishes like the rules of
Barbie Land. How like it is like a toy land
where you know, like there's jokes about how they don't
have genitals.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
There's no like water. Everything is.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
She gets in the shower, there's no water, she drinks
the cups, there's nothing there she has some toast and
it's she doesn't really eat it. And then she goes
to the beach and we meet, uh, we see all
the other barbies. There's Ray, there's Dualipa, there's are our
girl hard.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Enough, Yes, in her sailor outfit.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I love her a lot. I've always loved her. I
think it's very.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Funny that she used to be like a you might
not know anything about this, but she used to be
She's a guest on the show Red Scare, the.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Podcast I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, it's funny thinking now that she in like the
biggest fucking movie of the year and it's gonna have
a great career as an actress.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And Dasha like blew the bag.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
To be like like got fired off Succession just to
be like a right wing weirdo.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
What was What did she do on Succession? Was she
a writer?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
No, she was a Have you seen Succession?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I'm watching it right now.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Okay, So she comes in in season three and she's like,
she's an actress.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, she's an Yeah, she's an actress, like she's been
in movies and stuff. Yeah, I'm sorry, this is very tangential.
I just think it's funny that, like they were friends
at one point, and Harry Nef did the smart and
normal thing of being an actress making movies, being normal
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and you know, uh, getting money and being a good person.
And Dasha was like, I gotta talk to Alex Jones,
Like I gotta interview Alex Jones.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
It's like I have to. It's like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It's like you've got the opportunity to be like you're
to be successful and be happy, and you're like, no,
all these weirdos with pepe A v I is on
Twitter like I need them to like me.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So yeah, shots fired, Fuck you, Dasha.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Shots fired on the Beauty Translated podcast.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
But anyway, yeah, Harry Neff, isn't it She's dope? And
uh then we meet the kNs. We have the it's
it's the guy that played Shangshi, right.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah, I think is cute.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He is hot. He is hot for sure, but.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Allowed to like gush over him though with my boyfriend
next to me.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well you're safe with me, thank you. And of course,
uh Ryan Gosling, who uh is kind of really steals
the show for me in every every way. He's probably
my favorite part of this movie. I think he's just
like I love him like I love like like Drive
(23:06):
is one of my favorite movies. I like only God
forgives a lot too. You know a lot of people don't.
I think he's fucking awesome. Plays beyond the Pines, Like
he's so so been in so many good movies, had
such like a good career. But he's kind he's kind
of like the opposite of like Adam Sandler, who like
every once in a while has like a great dramatic role.
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Every once in a while, Ryan Gosling has like a
great comedic role.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, he's just so like his.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Timing is so good, his facial acting, everything is just
every almost every joke with him landed for me. Yeah
and yeah, so his Ken's job is is to beach beach. Yeah,
and it's kind of reminds me of the the I
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think you should leave bit where Patty Harrison's job is tables.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Oh my god, I have not seen that, but I love.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's very funny.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah and yeah, and this kind of like, uh, the
plot doesn't like I said, the plot doesn't really start
until a little bit in because and I like this
about it. You just get like a good fifteen to
twenty minutes of just being in Barbie Lends.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
And I had no idea like what the movie was
going to be. I was like, what is this going
to be about? Yeah, what's going to drive the plot forward?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I think the first kind of nugget of like conflicts
is when they're dancing.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
They're having this glorious dance sequence.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's very funny, it's very well choreographed, it's very colorful with.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Do a Liipa song do a Lipa song, which is
a really good song. I really like it.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I actually didn't know that was her song, but oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
She it's her song she made for the movie, which,
by the way, I just want to say, I'm about
to buy the fucking yeah the Hot Pink Final very cool. Yeah,
but yeah, it's Doula PIPA's song. And I just want
to say I the first like time I remember like
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laughing like at like something and realizing like, oh, that's
really like tongue in cheek was when Harry nefts Barbie
is the one who's the DJ at the dance party,
and I just thought, like, that is fucking hilarious. They
would make the trance and oh yeah, and as I'm
watching the movie, you know. But then later, like the
next day, I saw somebody tweet the same thing. It
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was hilarious. That's funny. Yeah, I wasn't observed that you
didn't notice she was the dah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I actually didn't know she was.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, she was in the DJ booth.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Is also the doctor.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, and then she came down from the DJ booth
and you're just like, Okay, I guess m M. It's
just playing.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So they're dancing, and Barbie uh says, uh, you guys,
does ever think about dying?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And record scratch?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, it's a record scratch? Yeah, And she said, I'm
just dying to dance. And this kind of gets into
the plot where so you play it with so she
she's having thoughts of death, and then she has she
has a kind of bad day where her feet uh
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are are flattening and they won't stay straight, like the
high heeled Barbie dolls.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
When she woke up on the second day after after
like laying in bed thinking about dying, I remember thinking like,
oh my god, this feels like Groundhog's Day or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I kind of got that vibe a little bit too, Yeah,
because I mean it would make sense that they live
like a groundhog Day type life, but like there's no uh,
but there's no Bill Murray to be like aware of it,
you know, right and uh yeah so uh. I Also,
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I gotta say a lot of feet in this movie.
I was not expecting all the feet. I'm curious if
that's a Noah bomb back thing or maybe Greta Yeah,
maybe she's uh she is like a true uh greats
or every great director has a foot fetish.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
True.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Also, Margot Robbie's feet in particular and once upon once
upon a Time in Hollywood and in Wolf of Wall
Street are very prominent.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So yeah, no, I mean, can I say she's got
pretty good feet? Like I think I get it.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
She's Margaret Robbie is a part time foot model, part
time actress.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah that this is all making sense now.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, so yeah, good feet to ten. I wasn't like
panting and sweating in the in the theater at all,
but yeah, I remember the rest of the movie. I
definitely didn't black out after the feet and.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Just remember the flat foot.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yes, that was very funny.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah that for her.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I don't want to like belabor like every single plot
point too much. But yeah, it's I did really like
that it just kind of took its time being in
the world before uh like establishing the plot because I'd
really like it reminded me of when I saw Avatar
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two and like the whole the whole middle of Avatar two,
like there's no real plot, Like they're just like in
the world and like swimming and doing stuff, and that
was my favorite part of that movie. I think, shit,
like that's really cool. It's it's like a it's it's
kind of patient filmmaking and and it trusts your audience
to just be like, look, look at these cool things.
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They're really nice.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And I like that a lot because otherwise you just
have to like imagine it yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I think there's too many writers directors that are
a little too eager to like to get it going.
And it's like, if you have like a really cool
world like this is, then yeah, spend some time in it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Soak it in. Let me let me hang out here.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
You know, since being a Avatar to you, you're the
people who are like they'd watch Avatar.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And then get sad that they can't go to Navy Land.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I wonder if that's gonna happen, like people get sad
that they can't go to.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, yeah, I could see that happening.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
For real, because notably, when the movie gets into the
real world, it is I wouldn't say it fully dips
for me, but it does kind of dip a little
bit for me when they're in the real world.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I wanted more of that patience that they spent in
Barbie Land. That's a little bit more of that's spent
equally in the real world because I was kind of
craving in that when we got to that part. I
was craving kind of like that kind of life size.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah it felt very Yeah, it felt it felt kind
of like life size to me too. And again like
this was another point where Ryan Gosling is just eating
everything alive.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like his whole sequence of him going.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Around trying to get a job and be like asking
for the doctor and all of those bits were really
fucking funny to me.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Wait, hold on, what about what did you think about
before we move on? What did you think about Kate
McKinnon as Weird Barbie.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I hate Kate McKinnon, but you do. I thought she
was very good.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I don't I love Weird Barbie was great.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I thought weird Barbie was great. Yeah, Well, I hate
is a strong word. I don't actually hate Kate McKinnon.
I think she's talented, but all I think she picks
just very obnoxious roles that I don't fucking like. So
that's kind of my opinion on her. And I think
that this was a role that is really like she
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was really good for So she was good. She was
good for me, And be honest, as far as the
cast goes, there's only one kind of weak link for me,
And you might disagree, but I didn't really like Will
Ferrell that much.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, I felt like so I felt like Will Ferrell's
character was not essential. Especially I agree after I saw
it the second time, I felt like Will Ferrell was
kind of just there to be Will Ferrell because I
feel like they wanted him to be like almost like
Mugatu or like just I don't know, and it wasn't
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giving it. Like.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Also, also, the Real World Park kind of felt like
off a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, and I was thinking about that and I wanted
I wanted them to spend a little bit more time
on those like, I mean, they did reference it a
little bit. She got arrested like a bunch of times.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I looked at my boyfriend when they said like, uh,
they said something like, she's bumping into things, she's stealing things,
she's getting arrested everywhere.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I was like, she's just like me for real.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It was literally just like me as a teenager getting.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I mean, I loved those sequences, but I just wanted
more of like the human interactions. It wasn't just like
people gawking at her, but people like I agree.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That's because that is a good like it's good. It's
good comedy, you know, like the kind of fish out
of wateriness. Yeah, is very funny, and that's why I
think a lot of Ryan Gosling ship was was so funny.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It was yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Also, I should mention that Greta Gerwig, being the woman
of culture, she is a fellow movie girl. She said
that a big part of her inspiration for this was
Jacques Tati and Jacques Denis, who made The Umbrellas of Cherburg,
which is a really cool, like colorful musical movie.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, I saw. I watched that letterboxed interview with her.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, you would dig that movie. It's really good.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And a movie called Playtime, which I haven't seen, but
I know that it's a very kind of like Kofka
esque movie about like, uh, corporate structures, and like when
you see like the Mattel office, it does feel very playtime.
So it's it's just a very funny place of inspiration
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to pull from for the Barbie movie, which I think.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Did you clock the trans symbol in the Mattel boardroom?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No, but I'm sure that some absolute freakazoid conservative guy
I have.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah. I was watching the movie and when and when
they went into the Motel boardroom for the first time,
I saw the trans symbol and I immediately thought to myself, like, Okay,
that's cool. But then my second thought was that's immediately
going to be like like some conservative dudes like screenshot,
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Oh for sure, yeah, and be like it's inductorning the like.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So I guess, I guess this is a good time
to bring up I don't know if you saw the
Our friend of the show, Ben Shapiro, made a forty
three minute long response called Bend Shapiro destroys Barbie.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I want to talk about it. Had did you watch it?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I tried.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I want to talk about it for.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Journalists and purposes I really did try, but yeah, we
can put a pin in that.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, because that's what I definitely want to talk about,
Like I'm closing out, is like the public reception and
included in that being Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, I'll just say we can absolutely circle back to this.
But watching this movie, I saw that he made that video,
and then I watched the movie and I was like,
I I see why this is short circuiting conservatives.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh yes, oh.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, because we are our world is very fucked up now,
and I think that, like generally, this movie has a
very I think most of the messages of this movie
are very wholesome, very general and generally, like, I think
saying little girls can be who they want to be
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when they grow up a good message everyone can agree on. However,
in the world we live in today, you will have
been Shapiro be like, actually, sharing is not caring. That
is woke propaganda, and people like I do think there's
some like kind of libshit in the movie.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yea, I did cringe.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
A little bit that they brought up the patriarchy so much.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Oh yeah, that was that the patriarchy was basically the
villain of the movie.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yes, but I also I I didn't look that is
something that would annoy me.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I really don't like.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I like, if I'm watching a movie, I either want
it to be very very general or very very very specific.
And I like watching like like like a movie like
Judas in the Black Messiah is like a fiery ass
fucking like anti FBI like pro black like fucking movie
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like that is something that really would piss conservatives off.
It would piss liberals off too, And that's shit that
I like. I like when people are very just aggressive
when they're in their politics.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
This definitely isn't that.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And I definitely don't like when things are like to
live I don't know too liberally right.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Because then it just it's like it's whatever message you're
trying to make. Those people who are like more reactionary too,
like but woke buzzwords and stuff like the patriarchy, they're
going to immediately tune out, you know what what the
rest of the movie is about.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
And also I mean, just like speaking for me personally,
like I just have just kind of a reaction.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
To like, like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
It was kind of the problem with Velma was that, Yeah, yeah,
it was way too like neo libs.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's shit like that, like when a movie like the
has words like what was that Megan Trainer song that
stop all yr Man's plaining, like shut the fuck up, bitch.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, like it's too like too, it's too it's cringe.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It is ineffectual. It doesn't move the needle at all.
It is only the only people that resonates for are
liberals with yard signs that say like in this house,
we believe that. No, likee No, they updated it. There's
like a new yard sign dropped the DLC.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, there's like a new one now that's like updated
to include like I don't remember anymore. I just saw
it and remember being like, oh my god, this is
like the new thing.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
It's kind of like the progress flag how they just
keep adding.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, it was it was.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
About I was going to riffer this one.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I was just saying. It was it was something about
like I can't even remember what it was. But do
we want to take a wait? Uh? I want you
to wrap just wrap up your feelings about the movie
really quick. And how did you feel about Okay, how
did you feel about once we went back into Barbie Land?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Okay, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Will Ferrell literally had no like all those guys like
all that was funny, like ha ha ha, but what
the fuck was the point?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Some of it was funny, but yeah, you're right, it
really like. I didn't really realize that until after the movie.
But they don't do anything, literally no purpose. Yeah, they
they don't do it, and you know that doesn't that
doesn't bother me too much, but it is I feel
like they could have given something them more to do.
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They tried to put Barbie in the contraption, they tried
to put her in the device, the box, and she
didn't go in the box, and then they play that
fucking banging, asked Charlie.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That was a good yes, that first Charlie XCX song
I've heard. I want to say for the record that
this movie.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Has clap before, shut the funk up, and you've heard
I love it before.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
What's that one?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I don't care, I love it?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
That's her, Well she's on the song. Yeah wait it's ah,
I forgot that. Oh my god, I'm blinking. There's there's
some fucking twink like yelling like it's this person. I
can't remember that. Yeah, she's on the song, and you know,
boom clap the sound of my heart.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Okay, I guess I didn't, but I thought. I also
thought i'd heard Doula Pipa for the first time and
Billy Eyelash I.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Want to babyh Okay, I heard Billy Eilash because what's
her song?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
What?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
How have you never heard Billie Eilish before? Bad Guy?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
That's the song backer, I've heard the case at first,
I heard the ca.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Ca This is fucking me up?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
How do I know all the twinkie galic pop stars
and you don't like this? Seems like your beat more
than it's mine.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Mama might beat is the divas and those are just
little pop.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
First of all, fuck you for saying Charlie XCX is
and a diva. Actually mad at you for that.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
I'm talking to Annie.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I'm going to bottle my anger for a second, but
I am mad about that.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
I'm talking Grace Jones, I'm talking Annie Lennox.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I'm talking people that like forty year olds listen to exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Okay, I'm not forty though, but.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I just I'm not forty.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
It's not forty, but yeah, I'm just not. It's hard
to keep up with all the kids these days. I'm
okay with not keeping up all the time.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
So you like the Charlie song.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yes, I loved this. Sorry, loved the Charlie XCX song.
And it's like a chasing scene. Yeah, and I think
that it does uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
The So the movie dips a little in reality for
the reasons we said, but I think it gets way
better when they go the reverse Wes Anderson path through
the through.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Back to Barbie Lands. And we should, I guess mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
The actual like plot of the movie is it sets
up these kind of toy story iss rules that kind
of don't make sense sometimes. But it's okay that the
Barbies are being played with in real life. Margot Robbie's
being played with in real life, And she's off to
reality to go find who's fucking with Barbie, who's fucking
her shit up, who's given her flat feet? Probably is
(42:47):
it me? Am I playing with a Barbie's feet right now?
I don't know, but uh yeah. So she goes back,
she finds this little girl. She thinks it's gonna be
the little girl plot twist. It's actually the little girl's mom.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's just some woke team it calls are a fascist.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh yeah, That was also a very funny joke when
she's like, I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Control the railroad, yes, and the and the chain of
commerce or whatever. She said, Yeah, I love commerce.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, that's that's very funny to me, that one.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
But I hated the whole little girl part with that.
That made me cringe with like, I know that libs
are going to watch that not lips.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Well, I think that the I think that's the joke though.
I think that's it's the joke that she doesn't she's
calling Barbie a fascist, but she doesn't know what a
fascist means, right, And also there's kind of another meta
joke that Barbie doesn't know what it means. Barbie like
she probably like looked up what a fascist is and
was like that can't be me.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
What.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
So they get back to barbie Land and then honestly,
this this probably is where my favorite part of the
movie is because ken Lee's reality early because he sees
how dope men have it in the real world, and
he goes back and he liberates the Kens and they're
drinking beer, they're fucking wrestling, they all really like horses
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and shit.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Because he originally thought so, Like he steals a bunch
of books in the real world that are like about
the patriarchy or whatever, and like one book about horses,
and he originally thought that the patriarchy was about men
who ride horses.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
This is silly.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
I love that too. I love that too.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
And I think that, like I think, if you want
to be like annoying about it, there is like a
kind of like neo feminist message there about that patriarchy.
But I'm glad that I don't really think the movie's
about that. I think the movie for it's uh intended audience,
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it trusts that you know that the patriarchy is is
bad and that you know that sexism is bad, and
it uses that, uh some that trust in the audience
to be to make jokes that like, yeah, none of
these people like they're they're fucking dolls.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
They don't understand what the patriarchy.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Is, and all you really need to know, uh is that, yeah,
it's kind of hard to be a woman today. And
that ends up being like the main lesson and I
saw it. We've been going on long, so I'm trying
to trying to get to like the the ending where she.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Chooses womanhood even though yeah, being.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
A woman is hard.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, and America Ferrera like realizes like that, Yeah, that's all.
That's all the kind of the that's kind of the
general message, Like yeah, there is like stuff about like
sexism and stuff, but I don't think that that is
really like what. I don't think that's the main thing.
(45:54):
I think the main thing is a very more general
thing about like choosing to be who you are and
like yeah, she's yeah, And I liked the message with
Ken too. That's like, you know, boys, you can just
be a dumb little guy too. It's fine, like you don't.
You don't have to define yourself based off like another
person or your like relationships or all of these outside things.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
You can just be yourself. You can just be Ken.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, and uh yeah, and that all comes after like
probably like I think the highlight of the movie for me,
which is the beach fight musical number.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yes, I'm just Ken, And then it breaks into that
very like it's like possy it is.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, it's kind of Bob Fosse all that jobs. Yeah yeah,
And it also it's cutting between like the saving Private
Ryan like on the beach with like uh like toys
and and again like that's that's like the wholesome humor
that like, I think kids can gigle lot, adults can
gig a lot.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
It's just silly, it's absurd.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
And that's what made this movie really fun to me
is that, like it's kind like a lot of people
say stuff like, you know, you just turn your brain
off to watch a movie, and like sometimes I do
that and when I watch dumb shit, and I'm fine
with that. But I didn't feel like I had to
turn my brain off that much. I was I was engaged.
And I think that Another notable thing is that Greta
(47:30):
Gerwig wrote this like towards her daughter that she recently had,
and yeah, yeah, and I think that there's a very
sweet message about like you know, motherhood and womanhood and
sisterhood and all the hoods like that, right right, yeah,
And I think that's a very general thing that most
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of us can agree on and find sweet and walk
out of the movie like that was.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
That was a good fucking time. I like that.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah. I cried, I tear it up a little.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
I didn't cry, but I sear it up a little.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Oh, I was like watershed. We'll talk more about it
when we come back from a quick okay, and we're back.
(48:23):
So yeah, the movie really touched me obviously, like it
had I thought, you know, yeah, like the villain of
the movie. They definitely tried to make it seem like
the villain, like you know, the main like the patriarchy
and all of that was like the main part of
the plot, but really it does have a lot of
deeper questions that it asks, and for me, those were
the things that resonated with me, and especially as.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
A transgren I agree.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Yeah, I felt like there was a lot of like
allegories of transness in the movie that I was probably
adding in there myself, you know, like you know.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I didn't really think about that, but you raised a
good point, you know, like that it that in a way,
like Margot Robbie has like, uh, reality dysphoria, you know, right,
Like she like wants to be real but she's not,
and she's like realizing like all these like like I
(49:19):
don't know, it's kind of like when you realize your
trends and you're like, oh wait, hold up, like all
of this is wrong, like and like, yeah, that's I
definitely see that now that you mention it.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yeah, And it felt like just it felt like her
journey to womanhood as yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
You know, I mean it literally is.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Yeah literally yeah, And the movie ends and she gets.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
A neo vagina, yes exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
And I was like when I saw that part, I
was like, oh, this like I confirmed it for me
in my head, Like the first time I was watching it,
I was already thinking like, wow, this really like resonates
with me, like with a bunch of like transness and stuff.
And then I the end where she's like, I'm here
to see my guy to college just because she makes
a joke earlier in the movie or they really Yeah,
(50:08):
she goes up to a bunch of construction workers and.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Is that neither of us? That was very funny too, Yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Was hilarious and she goes, I don't have a vagina
and the guy goes, that's And I was living for
like those scenes, especially like even just the scenes of
like her and the roller blades walk in Venice Beach,
she you know, being docked at like that, and like
(50:37):
I resonated with that. I mean I think a lot
of women might resonate with that if they've ever dressed
up and like gone forward. Yeah, but as a trans
woman especially it's like feeling like.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah, and I think that a lot of stuff like that.
Like I mean, at the end of the day, this
is a movie aimed at like like it it's I
wouldn't say it's quite a kid's movie, but it is
a movie that like you can bring your kids to.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
And I think that adult jokes are going to go
over kids heads for sure.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
And I think there's nothing that's like that dirty and
at all that's that's gonna like anger people except Ben Shapiro,
who got very mad about the beach off scene.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
He knows what it means and kids don't.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, it was like it's a homosexual masturbation joke that
goes on for ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Oh my god, it's no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Let's talk about let's talk about the response. Yeah. Yeah.
First I want to say that i've seen like annoying
queers complaining about the movie. Obviously it's not a perfect film,
and it's literally a movie about barbiees.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
I haven't seen that much complaining about it, to be honest, I.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Haven't, but I've seen like a couple of people online
being like m Barbie movie. Like, I feel like there
are some people that expected it to be like a
fucking gender abolition movie. Oh god, and like we're mad
that it, Like I guess reinforced the binary with the
whole Ken and Barbie thing, and it's.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Like, okay, that's Alan erasure. Alan was a non binary
code of al.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I love Michael Sarah and I was glad that he
got to have his little moment as Alan was great.
He's a one of a kind weird guy. Like they
don't make weird guys like that anymore. So shouts out
to him, shouts out to him.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah he made He was great for comedic relief.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
I haven't seen all that much, so I've been interested
in the react reaction to this too, because, uh, I
find it to be something that, like, as I've said,
is very general and it's kind of the like, yeah,
I mean they're gonna get mad about like, oh, all
(52:50):
the kids are are stupid guys, and then at the
end they they're they're still subservient to women, and that's
what liberals want, a world where men and where women
are more powerful than.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Men, like the dominatrixes, like with the whips.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, And yeah, so I
expected that, but I what I didn't expect but I should.
Is like kind of what I said earlier about how
like you can have very vanilla movies, but a lot
of the conservative uh like reaction commentary sphere is dominated
(53:30):
by just bitching about kids movies and ship. Yeah, yeah,
and I've been this is Ben Shapiro's beat, Like he's
always complaining about kids movies. Had there's a very funny
video where he's complaining about the the biffity Boppity boutique
has gone woke.
Speaker 4 (53:48):
What it's like a it's like a boutique thing at
like Disney World, and hearing his fucking squeaky ass voice
like the bitty boutique has gone woke.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Very funny.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Oh my god, I feel so bad for him. Not really,
but yeah, that's that's a sad life, because yeah, it
really is like a lot of the things that are
put in there are put in like that are put
in references for like the adults in the movie theater,
and then maybe even the kids who like grow up
and watch it later, but most of the kids, like
the beach Off thing, kids don't know like no, I
(54:24):
was watching Austin Powers when I was a child.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Oh yeah, I don't know what the.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Fuck of Onna hump a Lot meant, you know, but
I was fucking laughing about it. I was like, that's
so funny, you know. So it's just like people, Yeah,
it's selective outrage, and especially if it has anything to
do with like women or gay people.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, then it's fucking woke. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
And yeah, so I just think it's very funny having
to see like conservatives like try to get mad when
like there isn't even anything thing to get mad at,
like like having because saying sharing is caring. I mean,
if you think about it, it is kind of a
communistic value. So it is like I don't know, when
(55:13):
you push reactionaries, like when you force them to react
to something like even though it's not reactionable, then you
really get to see like their true beliefs. Then you
really get to Yeah, and when they when put when
down to it, they will say, no, sharing is not
caring and no, you cannot grow up to be whoever
(55:35):
you want, like fuck you, and that's you can't be
whoever you want. You have to be who I think
you should be, and that is I don't know. I
I kind of like the I think that's kind of
a good sign that, like the the culture war grievance,
like pushed to its logical extent, is just going to
(55:56):
end with people, because normal people are going to see
that and be like, I don't know what the bibbity
boppity boutique is, whether it's woke or not.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
Most people can't even fucking afford to go to Disney
and like worry about what they're selling it Disney.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Most people are dressing up in their cute little pink
outfits and having a good little weekend at the movies,
and I think that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
And yeah, I enjoyed seeing all the people out. Seeing
it in two different audiences was really cool, just because
like the Whissy Mag audience was definitely the more lively
of the two. Sure, yeah, they were laughing at every joke.
It was just like very like on beat. And then
I saw it with an audience that was just dead
silent the whole time.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Oh my audience was that I had a packed like amc.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
Excuse me at like eight o'clock on a Friday, and
it was, uh, I don't know. The very front row
had a bunch of like teenagers, Like look, I saw
this guy like scrolling his Instagram, which like so many times.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
This movie boring.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah, it literally was that like looking at family guye clips.
But everyone in my theater loved it, yeah, saying there
was a lot of outfits and like it was a
lot of laughing, a lot of.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Yeah people clapped at the end and like it was a.
Speaker 1 (57:16):
Whole movie magic. Yeah, we loved it.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
Yeah, and I really can't like I just like this
weekend has brought me so much serotonin, just in terms
of like I haven't felt like it. This weekend has
given me the kind of like connectedness I feel when
I'm on mushrooms, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Okay, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
I feel connected to people in.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
This sense, like when I'm on mushrooms, I just feel
like I have way too many teeth in my mouth
and I gotta start getting them out of there. I'm
way too connected to my sixty seven teeth that keep
coming in.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
That is horrifying. I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Don't think about your teeth on mushrooms. That's Jamie Mind's.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Danny dangerous advice. Well, yeah, so how far did you
make it into the Ben Shapira with you?
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (58:07):
Yeah, I so I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
You know, I've brought this up a lot, but I
watch a lot of like conservative stuff, you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (58:17):
It's important to know, Like I like, obviously not like
all the time, but I think it's important to know
what the fuck those crazy people are talking about it.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
I agree, And it's also kind of it's funny to me,
and it's also like, I think it's a good way,
so I uh, just to kind of understand their talking
points and they're like dialogue. Try so if you ever
come across one of these freakazoids in real life, you
might have a better chance at owning them because I
(58:46):
like owning people in the marketplace of ideas a lot.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
So I tried.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
I thought I made it about halfway through. I was
watching at one point two five speed because.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
He sounds great at that speed.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
I'm sure I got my two things. I gotta say one,
it was very boring because I knew everything he was
gonna say, Like, I knew everything he was gonna have
an issue with. And even when I was in the
theater watching it, I was like able to like clock like,
(59:23):
conservatives are gonna be mad about this because they're fucking huge,
fucking cry babies and they're mad about everything, and they're
just perpetually like signaling their vices, like hey, guys, I'm
mad about this, and we should all be mad about this.
And like so I understood. I already knew what he
was gonna say. And then so it wasn't very interesting
for me to hear it because I could have just
(59:45):
made it up in my head.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Did he say anything about the trans symbol.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
Uh, I don't know if I no, I don't think
he noticed that. But he brought up pryn F a lot.
Speaker 3 (59:54):
Oh god, well, when somebody notices that, he'll be all
over that.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
When he brought up Harry n F like youth, leave
her the fuck alone, leave her alone?
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
What did he say? Oh my god, I don't want
to know. It was probably just like calling her man over.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Oh there was one one funny part. He said her
voice is deeper than mine. I was like, that's not
very hard to do. I mean, yeah, that's that's totally
a cell phone, Like yeah, I want to clip that
and just kind of I can find it for you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
It's like, yeah, because she's very obvious.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
There's one that's a that's a trans barbie and it's
very obvious because she's got deep but she's really tall
and her voice is deeper than mine, Like, yeah, you're
five foot two and your voice is like I have
to use like a high pass filter to be able
to listen to you or else is like a fucking
dog whistle. And yeah, that was like the I couldn't
(01:00:53):
finish it because I don't think I've ever sat down
to actually watch a video like of Ben Shapiro that's
that long, like that Jesus fucking Christ. His voice is
legitimately so shrill. I would have rather listened to Gilbert
Godfree You or Fran Dresser or any of these bitches
like talk Ben Ben Shapiro. There's like a certain annoying
(01:01:16):
frequency that his voice rests at that is sid.
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
So yeah, he's like he's got such a punishable everything
voice face.
Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I'll beat him to death with the hammer.
Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yeah, period, inspired and Ben Shapiro on the Beauty Translated podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I'll forgivesha one day.
Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Maybe, Well, do we have any other final thoughts about
the movie or have we pretty much roasted Ben Shapiro
to death?
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I feel like we're good.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I don't know, I should have maybe taken some notes,
but I feel like I got out got out what
I need to say.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I really liked it. Eight out of ten.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah, very colorful, very fun. Honestly, I could have done
one more musical number.
Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Yeah, that would have been nice. I could have There's
probably some deleted scenes or something that are probably maybe fun.
Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Yeah, it's very sweet, touching at times, which is unexpected.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
H Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
The only things I kind of didn't like, I guess honestly.
One other thing that I haven't brought up yet is
that at the end of the day, not to sound
like a woke, schoold leftist, but it is a commercial
at the.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
End of the day, and it does.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Yeah, it's gonna move Mattel units even oh yeah, even
if it is self aware to the degree that it is,
it is a commercial, and I guess I do wish
that we could have movies like this without their being
attached IP to it. That's uh, gonna sell things. But
(01:03:07):
I like the Lego movie too, so I mean it's
I'm glad it exists. It's really good. I'm glad to
see that the cast, especially Greta grow I can know
a bomb Backer getting their shine because they've been in
the trenches for a long time doing awesome stuff and trust.
Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Well, yeah, thank you, I mean, thank you so much
for being here to share these thoughts with us.
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, we should do.
Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
If the people like this, I would be down to
do more movie episodes.
Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
So well, I'm wanting to because covering the news is
sends me into a spy.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Movies are fun.
Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Movies are fun. News is depressing.
Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yeah, news is depressing.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Yeah journalist. All right, Well, Jane, thank you so much
for being here. Tell the listeners where they can find you,
follow you, and do you have anything coming up for
people to check you out at.
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Yeah, so I've been I've been working on the new
album a lot more lately. I might have a single
out soon. I can't really make any promises, but uh yeah,
things have been coming along. I put together a new
band because of the allegations. Now just kidding, just kidding,
Uh my my ba, my basis moved, My Basis moved
because of the allegations.
Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
No, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Uh, but my band is all trans woman now it's
five trans woman.
Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
It's pretty cool, so bad.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's exciting and uh uh yeah, I
don't know, uh I think now that there's like three
different twitters.
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I think I'm still at sensitive Janey on Twitter, at
wife Sucker on Blue Sky. It's X fuck you second
time I'm yelling at you today. I think I'm at
wife Sucker. Oh no, I'm Janey underscore Danger. Oh bitch,
do you want to find me? Just google Janey Danger.
(01:05:08):
I'll pop up. I do have a link tree.
Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
In the episode description.
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
And also if you're if you're a movie head, let's
follow each other on letterbox because I use letterbox.
Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Fuck yeah, I okay, I have paid for letterboxed pro.
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Oh I do too, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Have not been using it like I should because I
have not put any reviews in there recently. But yees
follow me on letterbox also for my two brain cells
reviews on movies.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
That's the way you got it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I mean, there's too many, so many people pretending to
be smart on letter bottoms.
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
So I know, right, we need more people like you. Well,
thank you so much for being danger. We will see
Wait did you say there was.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
A show to promote No, we like we kind of
has just like got our set list like back together
since like rebuilding the band from the ashes but yeah,
next time I probably will. So yeah, I'm kind of
trying to get shows right now.
Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Okay, book Jane Danger Yeah yeah, and go see the
Barbie film and support the transigenda. Yeah. Thank you so
much for listening. We will see you in season three.
Bye bye
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