Hitler's Munich Beer Hall Putsch, Part 2

In Part Two, we continue to discuss Hitler's disastrous beer hall putsch.

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because it's a Hitler episode. You gotta give the give

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red meat to the base. It's like one of the
only episodes were likeness flies. So like, yeah, you want
to do it one more time? It's five. I did
it with two times. Is enough? My next Hitler episode
I give Robert Richard. He's like, no, welcome back to
Behind the Insurrections. This is part three. We had an
episode started off with an episode on the march on Room.

(01:52):
Now we're doing a two parter. This is part two
of our two parter on Hitler's Munich beer Hall putsch
Um and then we will continue with other fascist attempts
to seize power and talking about anti fascism and with
a few more episodes to do. So um, strap in,
buckle up. Eat some rice rice, Eat some rice rice.

(02:13):
It's good for you. They get that brown rice that's
got like the extra you know, the vitamins and ship
in it. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, don't skin
your potatoes. If you're eating potatoes, that's where the vitamins are.
And I can enjoy potato skins. I love potato skins.
You know who didn't love potatoes? Actually, Hitler did love them.
He was because yeah, huge, huge fan of vegetables. Anyway,
here's the storage. Yeah. As soon as von Lasso and

(02:37):
car and Cisor are free, they immediately warned Berlin and
call from military reinforcements from the rest of Bavaria and
try to organize the rest of the police who weren't
on Hitler's side into some sort of counter push. This
would tend to them looking at each other right when
they stepped out of the room, like, I can't believe
that worked. We're not coming back right, Like, no, we're
not going right. I can't believe you believe this. I

(03:00):
can't believe I can't believe that worked. You know, I
think I know why we lost the war. That guy
might not be very smart. Yeah, So, um, now, while
this is happening, it's gonna take time, right, ship doesn't
turn on a dime, you know, this is nighttime on
the eighth, when they get free and start warning everybody,

(03:20):
it's gonna take hours for them to like actually get
um a counter putch force in place to fight the Nazis.
And so for the rest of the night of November eight,
the Nazis find themselves in total control of a German
city for the first time in history, and they very
predictably did Nazi ship Yeah yeah, members of stuff stroup.

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Hitler first swarmed the offices of the Munschner Post, a
social Democratic paper, which they considered a Jewish paper. They
threatened the business manager at gunpoint in order to gain entry,
and then they destroyed everything inside, throwing ink on the walls,
cutting phone lines, smashing desks, destroying three and eighty patents
of glass. One Nazi later recalled, we forced open the

(04:01):
doors of this place, ransacked the building, and flung all
the printed stuff we could lay hands upon out into
the street. Now, during the assault, a police officer arrived
not to stop the Nazis but to make sure they
didn't damage the printing presses, because Hitler wanted those, because
he wanted to take them and give them to one
of his newspapers. Hey hey, hey, hey, you rough, Hey hey,
we're stealing that. Don't break it, all, Nazis here, Just

(04:25):
don't breaks valuable. Shoot those people, those people, fine, just
don't hurt the printing presses. Those costs money. Yeah, they're
all scared, like, oh no, kill that dude. I'm saying,
don't break the printer. Yeah, no, you're not under arrest,
of course, not what So they looted everything of value,
including an estimated six trillion German marks, which is, you know,

(04:47):
even at that point, a decent amount of money. Um.
While they were raiding, they found the home address of
the papers editor, who's a Jewish man. So they broke
into his home next, and they threatened his wife at gunpoint.
Now he was already in hiding, but the Nazis did
not leave right away. And I'm gonna quote again from
the trial of Adolf Hitler. This guy's name is our ours.
Elder daughter, Sophie asked the intruders to be as quiet

(05:09):
as possible because their own two year old daughter was sleeping. Maurice,
ignoring the request, asked who the father was as he
rummaged through their closets, laundry and betting. He then smashed
up a cupboard and turned over bookshelves, apparently looking for
weapons as much as any clue for the whereabouts of
the editor. We are the masters and we govern now,
Maurice boasted, And that guy Maurice would find up being
Hitler's valet like he was his driver and ship in

(05:31):
bodyguard for a while. Yeah, now, attacks continued through the night,
led by different gangs of Nazis. One small group was
led by a bank clerk named Ernest Hoobner who got
drunk at the start of the push and went off
with friends in search of quote Jews and other enemies
of the people to attack. They've broke into restaurants in hotels,
demanding that Jews exit, beating people and kidnapping them. At

(05:52):
least twenty four Jewish people were kidnapped and held hostage
during this period. Numerous others were beaten, businesses were ransacked.
Nazis another word, did Nazi ship? Yeah. Now, one of
the things that's fun about this is in the wake
of all this, stories will come out, like police will
claim that police who were members of the Nazi Party
will claim that while this was happening, Hitler condemned the

(06:14):
violence against Jewish people. Um and the kernel of truth
and that is that Hitler condemned the fact that some
of his Nazis took off their swastika arm bands while
they were beating new Jewish people. So we didn't condemn
the violence as much as he was, like why didn't
you wear it? That's good. It was a branding opportunity. Guys, fella,
come on, we got these armed bands for a reason.

(06:34):
We may good money for this ship. What are you doing. Yeah.
So by the early morning, Hitler and his closest lackeys
realized what Ludendorff had done and gradually came to understand
that Berlin had been called and the army was coming
for them. This brought a wave of hopelessness to some.
The rash nature of the push, the fact that the
timeline had been moved up two days at the last minute,

(06:56):
the poor communication, and the fact that a lot of
time had been spent giving long hit their speeches to
rooms full of drunk people uh and beating up random
Jewish people in the street uh instead of securing Munich
meant that the Nazis were about to face off against
the Bavarian army without full control of the city. They
kind of got drunken, out of control and failed to
do the things that were necessary to actually defend their territory.

(07:18):
You know, didn't think that through man, not yeah, Nazi ship.
So Ludendorff was aghast when he realized that General von
Lasso had not kept his word. He is very brokenhearted
by this. He can't believe it. He actually like tries
to call him and be like, come on, you promised, man, Man,
Hey man, what about that word you said you're gonna

(07:40):
come back? Bro? Yeah, come on, you know I gotta
tell you. Man, I'm I'm hurt. I'm hurt. I'm personally hurt, man.
You I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Yeah, Bro, Man, we're
supposed to have some sort of code. Man, so funny,
it's extremely funny. Um So Ludendorf yeah, is horrified. Hitler's

(08:02):
just angry, and he insists that the Nazis go on
with what most people now realize as a hopeless push.
Hit The rants that he's prepared to fight for the
cause and not a coward. He also screams that by
betraying him, Lasso and the other members of the Triumvirate
had forfeited their quote right to exist. Oh god, hardcore
Nazi guy. I mean he's yeah, like just just just

(08:23):
be saying like if it wasn't so violently dangerous again,
it's like the goofball thing where I'm just like, why
are you so? Are you such a drama queen? Bro?
Like they've reversed the right to exist? Like, hey, man.
You know, Hitler was wearing those corny ass cargo short
shorts when he said it, too, right, just like hey man,

(08:45):
he's just I'm gonna I'm gonna flame my church coat off,
and I got my tooths crosses in there, like bro.
Why the theatrics? Man? Like bro? You was his unnecessary
theatrical anyway? It's just Nazi ship. Like okay, man, just

(09:05):
if you're gonna shoot the place of shoot the place up,
you ain't got to do all what is all this? Anyway?
He's Nazi ship, you know. So at this point in time,
Hitler's organized forces in Munich number around four thousand, whereas
the government in Munich only is about troops and police combined,
and obviously a lot of the police are Nazis. Now.

(09:26):
Reinforcements were on their way rapidly um and so some
of Hitler's men suggested retreating outside of the city with
the forces they had, to a small town where they
had a strong base of support. Ludendorff argued against that
and instead insisted that they needed to carry out a
public show of strength and march through Munich in numbers
to rally the people of the city to their banner.
So like, that's you know, kind of Ludendorf city is like, no,

(09:48):
we can't retreat. If we start marching, the people will
join us. We'll start the march on Berlin now. And yeah,
I'm gonna quote from the trial of Adolf Hitler here.
Perhaps a show of popular support would convince car also
incisor to abandon their intention to oppose them. Surely too,
it was reasoned the army would not shoot at a
procession led by such a popular national figure as General Ludendorff.

(10:09):
The heavens will fall before the troops fire on me,
Ludendorff had told a colleague the previous day. The soldiers would,
it was hoped, flocked to the banner of the swastika.
With a little luck, nationalist momentum might push Hitler to Berlin,
just as it had propelled Mussolini to Rome. It didn't.
It didn't um. Hitler gathered about two thousand men at

(10:30):
the Burger Brow, and he did, in fact, marched them
to the center of the city, and for a little
while things went well. Fifteen minutes into the march, the
Nazis approached a group of thirty police officers with heavy
machine guns, and the police tell the Nazis to stop,
and Herman Garring yells back at them, don't shoot your comrades.
And then right after saying don't shoot your comrades, like
a trumpet blows and the Nazis charged the police and

(10:51):
take their guns and beat them unconscious with their own
rifle butts, which is again some serious d C on
the sixth energy, Yeah, yeah, where are your friends? Wham,
it's beating a cop with a blue lives matter that
is that is that a thin blue line rag around
him and his neck to choke him. Yeah so um, yeah,

(11:15):
the police were taken captive. The Nazis beat them and
take their guns, um and send them back to the
beer hall. And Nazi propaganda would describe this assault on
the police as police fraternization, right, like, it's us, it's
us being friendly with the cops. Now, this early success
would not prove to be you know, how the rest

(11:35):
of things went um. Eventually, the crowd reached a barricade
of a hundred police officers set up in a narrow
street where their flanks were protected. The Nazis advanced, and
while it's not known who started shooting, a gun battle ensued.
Four police officers and sixteen Nazis were killed. Hitler was
pulled to the ground by his bodyguard and his shoulder
was dislocated. Garring was shot in the groin in the leg.

(11:59):
And this is actually why Herman Garring and the pictures
you see of him as like when he's in power,
is like heavily overweight. It's why he becomes a morphine addict.
Like he's horribly injured and he gets addicted to pain killers.
Um yeah, and then he like starts over eating when
he can't be on pain killers in order to deal
with like he's badly hurt by this. Now, there's a
couple of different stories about what happens with Ludendorff. The

(12:21):
most common one that like Ludendorff backs is that while
all of this gunfire is going on, he marches like
straight backed, unharmed, up to the police line and is
taken into custody, just completely unfrightened of bullets. Historians tend
to suspect that, like, no, he was a soldier, like
Hitler and everyone else who was had military experience. He
dove for the ground when the shooting started. That's like

(12:44):
you don't stand up, no one, you go to the
fucking ground like that's what. Yeah, And Hitler gets really
messed up by this too, Like I said, his shoulders
like really badly dislocated. He doesn't get shot though, um
And as soon as it's clear that his men because
they's fire back and they kill some cops. As soon
as it becomes clear that the Nazis are going to

(13:05):
lose this giant gunfight, Hitler runs like fuck um and
Nazi propaganda would later claim that he sees like a
ten year old boy who gets wounded by the police
and he picks him up and runs him to safety.
This is a for one thing, his arm didn't work. Yeah,
so that didn't happen, Like it's a complete lie. He
ran because he didn't want to die. He did what

(13:27):
every what they literally anyone would do. Yeah, is you
Oh they're shooting, I should not get out of here. Yeah.
I really ain't sign up in his I just wanted
to know. So he flees, and he eventually takes a
car to his friends, puts his his manner in rural Bavaria,
and of course, as we talk about it in another episode,
he tries to shoot himself there and puts his wife, Helena,

(13:47):
who he has a crush on, like stops him, takes
his gun and like throws it into a barrel of
flour um, which is, you know, maybe not the best
call anyone ever, but it was one of those like
like short term goodness term, like in the moment, that
was probably the right thing to do. Yeah, but it
didn't end up well. So Yeah, Hitler eventually gets arrested

(14:11):
and he's charged with, you know, trying to overthrow the government. Now,
the maximum sentence for a guilty verdict would have been
life imprisonment, and even if he wasn't put away for life,
Hitler wasn't a German citizen, and the law code at
the time stipulated that foreigners convicted of high treason should
be deported after serving their sentence. Now, when he was
brought to jail, Hitler was initially despondent, telling one police

(14:34):
interviewer that he wanted to just shoot himself and get
it over with. But as the days and weeks went by,
it became clear that most of the Bavarian government and
many of its people were best ambivalent about prosecuting Hitler.
He was extremely popular. Nazi protesters took to the streets
immediately after he was arrested, like shouting Hail Hitler and
down with the car. Even a lot of the cops

(14:54):
and soldiers who had put down the rebellion were broadly
pro Hitler. They didn't want to see him pun ish. Now,
this was kind of filed compounded by the fact that
the press, even the left wing press, didn't take Hitler
seriously because the putsch had failed. The New York World
ignored Hitler's roll in it for the most part and
declared it Ludendorff's pusch and depicted Hitler as a bumbling

(15:15):
sidekick who had gone off half cough and dragged the
general down with him. A major Berlin paper described it
as a Ludendorff pusch and compared it to a childish
prank rather than a severe attempt to destroy democracy. The
New York Times probably had the best coverage. They made
a pointed note that hit there was a skilled order
and very charismatic. They laid out his skill at weaving

(15:36):
the nation's resentments and racial bigotry into a cohesive political
platform capable of getting people out into the street. You know.
The New York Times falls down on the job a
lot later, with Hitler. Um, but at this point, like
they see at least that writer sees the danger, you know. Now. Meanwhile,
in France, a left wing paper, the Republic French well, uh,

(15:57):
the French Republic, I guess is the name of the
paper calls it. Yeah, and it's like this is a
very like a socialist paper. It warns its readers that
the real victim of the push was not the Nazis,
but the Bavarian government, who had brutally suppressed a popular uprising.
The trial of Adolf Hitler notes it was instead a
war between two different visions of dictatorship, and the most
dangerous one, it believed, was not the one suppressed. Several

(16:21):
papers on the left agreed with this assessment. Hitler, in
his defeat, looked ludicrous and less menacing than the state
authorities who had stopped him. The illusion would only grow
in the coming months. So like, no, no, the state's
way worse than Hitler. You know, he's just a silly dude. Yeah. Again,
the lesson of history is that no one has ever

(16:43):
learned a lesson from history ever, not a single person. Goddamn.
And the idea, the part that so chilling is like
you know, him sitting in prison almost the idea of
him almost checking out and being like, maybe let's not

(17:04):
do this, and in the streets rise up for him
and he's like wait what wait, yeah, like me, all right,
let's let's let's let's push on, you know like that
that's that part is so chilling, where it was just
like he almost stopped. Yeah, he could have been stopped.

(17:25):
And this is the story at this point is why
he wasn't, you know, um like like why he didn't
Why this wasn't the end of his political career. Because
the big question of the Munich beer hole Pusch isn't
why didn't it work? Because it was a terrible idea
from the start, it was doomed from it was badly
planned in order. Yeah, it is instead why didn't this

(17:47):
push in the Hitler's career, And the answer to that
question comes once again down to the justice system, law enforcement.
The police in Munich in particular were critical in allowing
the Nazis to rise to power in the first place,
and in nineteen the year of Hitler's trial, the justice
department would prove critical in keeping his ambitions alive, or
the justice system Germany whatever. So Hitler goes to court

(18:11):
and as a note, they take him to court and
like a military academy, um, and the academy is empty
because all of the young soldiers being trained in the
military academy were part of Hitler's push. Um. So like
the yeah, like yeah, yeah, is this the trial? So
I read death of Democracy? Yes, so is this the

(18:32):
trial where the judge was essentially like, I'll give you it.
I like the guy, Uh, this is one of those
democracy I think is talking about the trial with um
um a different like there were a couple of trials
like that. It happened more than once. This is the
first time. Well, actually it's not the first time. It's
not the first time with this judge, as we're about

(18:53):
to talk about. So, the presiding judge in Hitler's case
was a guy named George Nightheart. Now Nightheart had a
reputation for opposing democracy in liberalism and just loving himself
the far right. He was a monarchist in his bones,
and he took his rage at Weimar democracy out on
left wing like uh, what McCall people like on the left.
He wound up in his docket. Now, this was not

(19:16):
an isolated phenomenon in Germany, most judges were very much
far right. Statician Emile Gumbel analyzed murder trials in Fimar,
Germany from nineteen eighteen to nineteen twenty two. Uh He
found quote right wing defendants received a not guilty verdict
no fewer than three d s three fifty four cases.
There were no death penalties and only one life sentence.

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Left wing defendants, by contrast, were judged in a sent
only four of the twenty two cases, receiving ten death
penalties and three life sentences. The length of the sentence
also confirmed the double standard, fifteen years on average for
the left, four months for the right. Good Hi, I'm
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to bring this back to modern history. The UK Guardian
just conducted a study on last year's protests involving thirteen

(22:34):
thousand left and right wing demonstrations, and found that police
were like four times as likely to use force on
left wing demonstrators and three and a half times as
likely to use force on left wing demonstrators during protests
where there was no destruction of property or looting. So
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and left wing protests where there's no violence, the police
are three times and a half times more likely to
use islands against the left. Um stefol shit, it's the same.
It's all the same, broadly speaking, like we do, like
our judges and d a s and stuff are kind
of well in some areas, are less like the Nazis

(23:15):
where right, for one thing, they didn't transition from being
under ricking to a democracy and weren't all angry about that,
which is not. Like the whole justice department is stacked
towards the right. But it's not as bad as it
was for Weimar, but it's pretty bad now. Ninheart had
actually ruled on a case involving Hitler once before, in
January of nineteen two, when Hitler had attacked a rifle

(23:36):
politician giving a speech at another beer hall. Hitler had
faced three to six months in prison then, and Ninheart
had ordered him to serve just a month, although he
also put him on probation, and Hitler was on probation
when he tried to overthrow the government in n He
was on probation. Wow, damn, they are already on probation.
Dagdad you but you're like, oh, I know to judge

(23:57):
with good the judge who knew that Hitler was on probation,
didn't bring this it up at all during the trial,
didn't form the jury, made sure no one knew that
Hitler was on probation when he tried to overthrow the government.
Oh good, that's extremely funny. It's it's rad as hell.
Don't don't yeah, no, no notes. So yeah. The website

(24:22):
Famous Trials because get overview of how the case opened,
and it makes it clear just how stacked the deck
was in Hitler's favor. The presiding judge called Hitler to
the stand, consistent with German procedure at the time, the
questions came from the judge, not the prosecutor, although they
were written largely by the prosecution. In the afternoon session,
Hitler gave a nearly four hour opening statement that dazzled spectators.

(24:44):
He began by telling his life story then shifted to
his political vision. He was animated, his voice rising and
falling as he laid out his vision of the country's
problems and hopes for the future. He was unsparing in
his criticism of racial minorities and left wing ideologies, calling
communists not even human. He blamed the government in Berlin
for the economic crisis, saying it had practically robbed the

(25:04):
people of the last marks from their pockets. He said
policy is made not with the palm branch, but the sword.
Hitler's words were reported around the world. Hit their claim
to want only the best for his people and said
he alone bore the responsibility and also every consequence for
the failed push. He compared the Bavarian leaders who turned
on him to a horse that lost its courage before

(25:24):
the hurdle. So four hours it is ship. Yeah. And
one of the main impacts of this is that he
gets to speak four hours and lay out his entire
political philosophy at a trial that is internationally reported on.
So suddenly this guy who was unknown outside of Bavaria
becomes known worldwide. Yeah, because the judge lets him just

(25:47):
say whatever he wants, just want. Can you imagine being
a prosecution in a situation and being like, is he
done a four hours four hours dog? Like you're not
even talking about the case, yeah, yeah, are you serious? Yeah.
So when sensitive matters were addressed, matters whose disclosure might
be especially embarrassing to the government or suggest a violation

(26:09):
of the Versailles Treaty, like all of the machine guns
being given to militia's, the court went into secret session. So,
for example, Hitler's testimony that his party stormtroopers were trained
with a knowledge and support of Bavarian authorities, a clear
violation of the treaty was never heard or reported by
the international press. So the fact that, like before Hitler
tried to overthrow the government, the army had trained and

(26:30):
given guns to his militia's, they just hid that talk
about that because it's a violation of international law. And
as we just broke, we broke everyone's loss, everyone's loss there.
So a bunch of fucked up stuff came out during
the trial, including the fact that the Bavarian police commissioner
had been promised by Hitler one week before the putsch

(26:51):
that he would not do a push like Seisser went
to Hitler was like, are you planning to overthrow the government.
And there was like, no, of course not. Why is
everybody Hitler overthrow a government? No? Hey, we're good, bro,
you're good. Don't even you're good. We're good. Can I
have some more machine guns? Like thirty more maybe tops, right,

(27:12):
just thirty more machine guns for duck hunting? You know,
I'll tell you what pass medium guns. Promise you everything
is cool. These are not overthrowing the government guns there, um,
you know, like you know, just walking around guns just
for for the for for style collector. I'm a collector

(27:32):
machine guns, dog, Doug, Why is everybody but why are
body in power? Just believe the other dudes? Like it's
amazing you go come back right, yeah, okay, you're not
gonna do this right government? Are you? We're good? Man.
They needed women in power because we would have been

(27:53):
like trust issues. No, absolutely not, no, No, there's in
There's been multiple times that my wife has been absolutely
correct about stuff that I was completely like, it's cool.
She was like, uh no it's not. And I'm smart
enough after this many years to listen to her. Now,

(28:16):
no one listened to anyone smart when they put Hitler
on trial. There was a good member of the prosecution here,
I wanted to put him away, but other members of
the prosecution were actually sympathetic to Hitler. One of the
prosecutors described Hitler's desire to institute a military dictatorship as
a high, perhaps morally legitimate goal, although he added that
this did not justify his use of criminal means. Hey, man,

(28:39):
you were right to overthrow the government to institute a dictatorship,
But did you have to use violence? Not like this
peaceful protest, Hitler? Come on, come on, man, not like this? Uh.
The prosecution, some of the prosecution at least praised Hitler's
honest efforts to inspire belief in the German cause, and said,

(29:00):
as human beings, we cannot withhold our respect from Hitler.
What I am growing trying to grow an him with
the year. But I'm just like, Okay, I know heinz
fam you for real? You know he's not getting enough respect,
this Hitler, fella, This guy no respect reading. I've been

(29:22):
reading this guy. I heard him talk for twenty two days,
because he's shut up the whole twenty two days. And
I think something in there. I think this guy might
be a pretty good Hitler might be our best Hitler
you know, let's give me a shot. Wow. On March seven,
Hitler gave his final statement, as defendants were allowed to

(29:43):
do under German law. Hitler told the court that his
goal was never to become a minister. Instead, I wanted
to be the destroyer of Marxism. He said. He was
born for politics, and just as a bird must sing,
because he is a bird, he had to engage in
a political life. He felt he had the duty to
step forward and saved Germany. The Putsch was not a failure,
Hitler said. On the contrary, it raised people to the

(30:04):
highest pitch of enthusiasm. He predicted the hour will come
when the masses who stand in the streets under our
swastika flag will unite with those who fired on us
at us On November eight, he said, the army we
have formed is growing from day to day. Hitler's words
moved a number of people in the courtroom to tears.
Hitler argued that the government was prosecuting the wrong people,

(30:25):
for it is not you, gentlemen, who pronounced judgment upon us. Instead,
the judgment of the eternal court of history will pronounce
against this prosecution which has been raised against us. That's
a quote from Famous Trials. Yeah, it's pretty great ship.
They just let him say that kind of rocks. To

(30:45):
be honest, he was and he was dead as serious
that yo' I'm not done y'all the beginning. Oh No,
I'm gonna keep Hitler ng. That's what Hitler's do. Yeah, baby, yeah,
the big big hit leries. You know what I'm saying.
Is that a new T shirt? Too? Yeah? Can we
get it? Always be? Probably not? Probably not, Okay, Yeah,

(31:07):
let's not do that. You don't probably not invoke. I
don't know if you can invoke the old hits putting
on the hits. That's the shirt putting the hits to
go where you can go, and sits putting on the hit.
So Hitler and his co defendants were found guilty. Most
of them were sentenced to five years in prison, which
was the absolute minimum sentence, and they would all be
eligible for parole in six months. Ludendorff was acquitted on

(31:31):
all charges. Judge Nighthart justified the lenient sentences by citing
Hitler's purely patriotic, noble, and unselfish motive of wanting to
be the supreme ruler of all Germany. This guy is
not selfish who just wants Yeah, it's amazing. Okay, I
know I did this, and I know a lot of

(31:52):
people die, but I'm also trying to take over the
country in my defense. I wanted to be the dictator.
You know, it's in my defense, and and I'm trying
to save you from an imaginary enemy. Yeah, you might
not have if I'm not your dictator. You know, you
know when I get a dictator, if I wasn't your dictator.

(32:12):
So some observers at the time recognized how preposterous and
terrifying all of this was. Continue. Yeah. One German journalist
called it a political carnival and pointed out that the
judge allowing Hitler to make repeated flowery speeches just turned
the trial into an ad for the Nazi Party, and
it seems to have worked. That spring, despite the party

(32:34):
being officially banned, three of Hitler's ten co defendants were
elected to the Reich Stack. So when I think about, like, yeah,
when I think about the fact that, like, okay, so
we're going through another impeachment trial, is people still on
Don Joan side? Like when I I just imagine myself
being a senator and just when it's my time to talk,

(32:55):
just being like, did we all not almost die Tuesday?
What is the fucking hold up? We just did? Were
y'all here? We was all here? Right? Did I didn't
imagine this? Did we almost die on Tuesday? What? What
are y'all talking about? Like? I just imagine that? So
I imagine somebody in in you know, the Vimar Republic

(33:15):
at the time, going, did y'all just here? Did I
only one have just heard this? But did y'all Do
y'all heard that this is a bad idea? How come
nobody else here did this is a bad idea? Yeah?
That's kind of the repeated story of fascism and a
lot of countries. So because humans never learned anything? Not?

(33:37):
Is that the name of your next podcast? After humans
never learned anything? No one learns anything? So why listened
to this show? Just downloaded? So I get the ad
dollars and just stumble forward. So was sent to Lenzburg Prison.
UM and Lensburg Prison had two parts. There was a
normal prison, which is like a panopticon, one of those
big prisons were like the guards in the middle can

(33:58):
see everything everyone does. And then there's a big castle
that's like a luxury hotel and Hitler gets sent to
the luxury hotel. Part of it's like it's the Germans
had a whole chunk of their justice system that was
luxury prisons for mainly right wing terrorists. He was Yeah,

(34:18):
count Arco Valley, the guy who shot Eisner, went to
this prison and got like like like and gets like,
you know, he lives in like a nice like a
like a condo basically, And that's what Hitler gets. I
might go rob somebody, so to go back, Oh no,
you gotta try to overthrow the government. Yeah, so he

(34:39):
gets a Hitler gets a private apartment at this castle.
He's given tea coffee, nice food, a leader, a day
of beer, and all the books he wanted to read.
His time was on his own. He was allowed to
spend five hours a day walking through the garden and
stuff deep and thought. All of his friends were in
jail with him, and they got to like party and
play music. It was less prison and more being locked
in a nice castle with your friends for less. Sounds

(35:00):
like you're on a retreat. A lot of people would
pay for this, you know, sounds like sounds like a
frat house. I was going to say, like a TikTok
influencer house. Yeah, it's a hype house, which is probably
where our next fascist dictator will come from. Proud of
both of you for knowing those. Yeah, Taylor Lawrence's work. Yeah. Oh,

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your podcasts. We're Back. The worst thing about Hitler's sentence
was that all of the comfortable free time that he
got in Landsburg gave him space to work on his ideology.
Here we Go nineteen twenty four would, as a result,
go on to be one of the most important years
in Hitler's life. I'm gonna quote now from a write

(37:16):
up by Douglas Linder. By July, Hitler was hard at
work on a work that would be both autobiography and
political manifesto. The completed work would be called Mine comp
it would be seven hundred and eighty two pages long,
and it would sell twelve million copies by nineteen forty five.
In the book, Hitler developed the two great themes that
would mark his later career. First, he defined world history

(37:37):
as a struggle between races and saw Arians as the
culture creating race, and Jews as the culture destroying race. Second,
he lays out a case for the imperative of German
territorial expansion to the east. He called it living space
for Germans or Levin's realm. On December nineteenth, the Bavarian
Supreme Court ruled in favor of Hitler's parole had there

(37:57):
was released the next day, he said, when I left Ansberg,
everybody wept, by which he means the guards, but not I.
Hitler said his time in prison gave him that fearless faith,
that optimism, that confidence in our destiny which nothing could shake. Thereafter,
he said that the prison had given him a frenzy
of liberty, and that without my imprisonment, mine comp would

(38:18):
never have been written. Good Ship, damn it, good Ship.
I felt like as soon as you name the prison,
if this was a movie, and asked when like the
single key of the haunting song starts that you think
it's over, and then the music builds, and then it's
having him walking around the thing with his hands behind
his back, just kind of chilling, and then it zooms

(38:40):
in on him writing. You know. On top of that,
it says mind colf and we're just like, yeah, Dune, Dune,
Dune to be continued. Good. Yeah, yep, it's good stuff.
So ye prop oh god, that means you're stopping right there. Yeah,
that's the that's I mean, that's the punch. You know.
That the story of the push and what happened after.

(39:01):
We're going to talk more about anti fascism in Germany
in a later episode of this mini series and stuff,
because we didn't really that a lot of that hadn't
started yet, you know. Um, but after Yeah, I got
my names wrong because I thought this was the one
when they set when he set the set the building
on fire. No, No, that's the Reichstag fire. He's already
in power when that happened at that point, right yeah,

(39:24):
um No, this is this is his first attempt to
take power, and the fact that he receives no meaningful
punishment from it is why he winds up in power. Yeah, yeah,
which is like it's rad's super real. He should probably
punish somebody. You can't let this year ride, okay, yeah,
maybe if a fascist tries to overthrow your government, they
should face severe consequences. You can't let it ride. Yeah,

(39:47):
you can't let it ride the same unity. You're not
a big fan of the justice system, or you want
emity because it'll come back on you eventually. Yeah, of
course maybe possibly propit pop dot com. Those are my plugs, okay, yeah,
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(40:08):
refuse to plug. I will fight to the death anyone
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I have plugs free rob alright, alright, alright, plug me

(40:30):
plug me? U is at I write? Okay? On Twitter?
He has he has a book called The Brief History
of Vice. He has a podcast called it Could Happen
Here You're Ever with Katie Stolen Cody Johnston Uprising, which

(40:53):
she did, which which is with local journalists and activists
from Portland's on the Portland Uprising. Oh, I'm so tired
behind the police with this man prop as wells West
YEA god, damnit, Robert, why did we do so many shows?
You got the one about the women, the women Women,
the Women's War, which is when he went to Syria.

(41:18):
I'm so tired. You're a machine for at t public
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You nailed it. You nailed it. Um, I also have money.
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(41:40):
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to read it. So somebody did say all my comments,
which was that was so hilarious. I don't want to

(42:00):
drag the guy because I appreciate the follow me, but
that um about the about the artwork for this for
this spot, that like, because I'm pretty sure there wasn't
a fire there, so you guys putting a fire on
there is pretty uh deceptive, guys. It's it's number one.

(42:22):
They turned around the logo in like two days, and
this was the best thing we could think. I think
it's fine that I had that if somebody wants to
create for me, like I love you. It was a
fun idea. Yeah. My favorite idea ever is I wanted
to take like like in regards like the show Friends
when they're on that couch and on a fountain, but
the fountain at the US Capitol, and then it's like

(42:45):
Franco Mussolini, Trump and Hitler sitting on the couch. I
think that would have been fun if somebody could do
that for me, like you'll make you'll make my life month. Yeah.
And also it's just look, guys, it's just it's just
dart work. M It's just it's it's just the artwork.
What are you gonna What are you gonna do? What

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