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Speaker 1 (00:07):
I'm Heather Dubrow, I'm Terry Debrow, and we're going to
keep this between us, but not really and hopefully all
of you.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
By the way, how cool is it that I get
to do a podcast after all these years with you?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Is it amazing?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm so exciting. This is such a cool phase in
our lives.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I got so many messages, maybe more than I ever
had on my final podcast of the Heather Dubrow's World Turn.
Let's talk about how they loved hearing the two of
us together. And they didn't even know this was going
to be the next iteration of the podcast was going
to be you and me together, So I loved that.
I thought the response was incredible.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's also the perfect time because we have reached a
tipping point in so many phases of our relationship in
our lives, really with our kids going off to college,
my practice moving to Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Crazy. I remember people. I don't know if many people
know that, but when you and I met, how long
had you been in Orange County?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
About three years?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Three years? And I was an actress and I had
a band and a fourteen piece big ban, and I
was traveling to Orange County all the time, and I
left the band because I was doing better in my
acting career and I thought, I am never going to
Orange County again.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And then you met me.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yes, I know, and then I was back on the
four or five. Sorry about that, but you were in LA.
I had a practice in Burbank. I joined this guy
who did nothing but celebrities. He wanted me to join him,
and then I started my own thing in Newport Beach
and then I started operating on all these celebrities with him,
and the celebrities said, you're doing the surgery, he's not.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And the truth was I was doing half. That's not good,
and one half looked much better than the other.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
House was it?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Your half?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Was my hend?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh that's good?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh I know.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Do you think now? Think about this? Because I was
in Orange County for a long time, like four years.
I was back and forth. Have you ever heard of
people in their relationships they can pinpoint where they were
and see if they ever in sected before they met.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I'm sure we intersected the South Coast mall.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I mean, don't you think because we used to play
My band used to play at that place, Beru Preddy's
every Monday night. Did you ever go there?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I never went.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, then we did, No, we did. But did we
ever meet anywhere? Did you go to get gos?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I went to all the old places single guys went to.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
There were single guys there.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, But you know in Newport Beach there was that
one with the tents what was that called?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And then there was like A's or whatever it was.
There was just like these few sort of sleazy places.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I don't know, you know, I was playing weddings.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And by the way, being a single guy at Newport
Beach was not the greatest.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Well I think a lot of single women would agree
that it's not a great place to meet, except if
you're at the quiet woman.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, it was not good.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, No, I never actually went there for the single
guy thing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You didn't, No, No, I didn't. Anyway, we have so
many cool things coming up that it's almost too much
to talk about. So let's just blow this up and ball.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
This has been a crazy summer. We've been traveling a
lot this summer.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, well, you I don't think there's a week where
you don't say to me, we'll be leaving in ten
days from now.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, what's so funny is Terry said to me, I
don't know, a couple months ago, my buddy only works
three weeks a month, and that's what I'm gonna do.
I'm changing my schedule and I'm only going to work
three weeks a month. And I said, well, you really
only work three weeks a month now, it's just not scheduled.
We just are constantly traveling.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I really don't string that many days together of work
before on a plane and now, which you love, which
I love.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I do love this phase of our life.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It's interesting because everything has changed since we moved up
to Beverly Hills, right in what respect. I don't commute
four hours a day anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I mean, honestly, that's one of the best game changers
that we've had.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You tired and cranky is not fun.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, And I don't know if you've noticed, but because
I'm working out every day, you're swall I'm looking a
little swall right.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And I'm getting more sleep, yeah, which is good ish. Yeah,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Sleep that well, but I'm getting more sleep. And we're
doing all these incredibly new projects right, so it's a
very exciting time.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
We have stuff going on. Really.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I mean, I find it interesting that all this stuff
is going on at the same time that our children
are all leaving. I listen. I know this might be unpopular.
I'm not sure, but you know, people talk about, you know,
being empty nesters and they're sad that their kids are leaving.
We don't feel that way.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
No, I want them gone.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Like yesterday, you would kick Ace out.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I don't know if I'm becoming less emotional as I
get older or something, but I don't have that sort
of experience where.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Why kids are going to college, what am.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I going to do?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's like they can't go fast enough.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, well, okay, so we had kids a little later, right,
so we were you know, sentient more than sendient beings.
We were full fledged adults when we had our kids
and then they came into our lives. Yes, and it's
been a lot, but I for me personally, I feel
like I've enjoyed every stage of them, Like I really
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enjoyed the baby stage, the toddler stage, every stage except
the douchey eleven to fourteen. I didn't like that one's
day that one's bad and Ace is just coming out
of that. So that's good. But aside from that, I've
enjoyed it all and I'm ready to move on. But
I think it's interesting that our third child is now
off to college this week. Yeah, by the way, I know,
after college this week, and we will only have one
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at home. And for me, it seems like the right
way for things to happen, that all of a sudden
we have all these other opportunities going on.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's really weird, you'd think, at this later stage in
our lives, when we have resources and we're pretty stable
in certain things, that everything's so amazingly transitional. Things are
so I mean, we are disposing this house project that
we are.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
All right, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Okay, let's you know, are we talking about the fact
that the moment this thing happened, I was assuming around
on the internet as.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Soon as the sale closed to the house.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yes, and it came on. It was on TMZ literally
within twenty minutes. It was what is TMZ?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
What did you hang out at escrow.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And see as soon as they file.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's just unbelieved twenty minutes later? Or should or did
I call the paparazzi.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Or did you maybe or did Josh Flack Oh, you
know what Josh flag did call it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
It was a very favorable Josh fla.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Josh Flagg called the.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Jan Altman did a great job. What I will say
is interesting, which I didn't know until today, is that
Josh Flagg told me he got the buyer of the house.
The buyer saw the post from Instagram.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Do you know that really?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yes? Okay, Josh told me today that he had put
our house on Instagram and the buyer saw it on
Instagram and that's why he called okay, the power of
social media. Yeah, that's pretty crazy, do you think.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah? But you know, at some point, maybe next time.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
We have to tell the real details about this house,
because it's not just we sold it for We bought
it for this, We sold it for that. It was
so emotional, there was so much more to it to
it that was well, let's do fighting in like super
scary and negative.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Let's do this. Let's not tell that story today because
we don't have time for that today.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Okay, why don't we?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
All right, everyone listen, you're gonna want to hang on
for next week. It's going to be our first real fault.
It's just a ds. It's a little taste.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
In that vein. I saw a pre op today, a
preoperative patient. We're talked about the risks, the benefits and
the surgery. I go, what day we do this? He
goes next Tuesday. I go see you next Tuesday? And
I thought, how are it appropriate? And then I thought,
oh my god, if I have a complication, you're gonna
say And.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He said, see you next tuesday.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Does that suck?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Which reminds me, oh of one time Terry's on the
phone with the patient and he's talking about that she
needed to have a suppository, so sometimes you need to
put something in the cavity below. So Terry's on the
phone and he's not his doctor. You know, he's not
saying rectum. He's like, he's not saying put it in
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your rectum. And he's going, listen, you take the suppository
and you put it. And he said it in a
very doctorly way, because you put it in your butthole.
And I looked at him and I go, I go
like that, and he's looking at me like braw.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Ryan, right, buttholec Yeah, well it was a hole.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It was a butole. I put it. I was inventing
a new word or something butthole.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I thought it was, you know, dying, putting it down
to whether I'm going to show you something.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
When you catch me with this, you always have a
certain reaction. Are you ready? I want to see a reaction.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's gum, I already know it. Oh give me this.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Oh oh yes.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Carry does the most disgusting thing where he likes I'm
not gonna eat this right now, but he likes these
pesti and they have sorbitol in them, and he likes
to evacuate himself before a trip, and so he eats
like an entire container of these with the sorbitol effect.
It's like remember they used to make the potato chips
with the olestra. They had no fat in them or
(09:21):
something was like fake fat and people got anal leakage.
Guess who got anal leakage from that terry on my
brand new dining room chairs.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
In bel Air.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
No, not in bel Air. It was Beye Glass, it
was it was on Spy Glass. It was our first
rental house. I bought all new furniture from Ballard Design.
It was a pale color. You were sitting there and
you aintal leaked on.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
My I went I felt a little something on my chair.
I said, oh, ain, Only it.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Wasn't like a shard or anything, because it wasn't even
the sharp part. It was the it was the I
just went, what what and I looked at it one oh,
and it was all over the chair.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It was it was not okay, okay, And so this
is so this is a more controlled version.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Is a control version. When you take this, you eat
the whole thing in one setting. This is not medical advice, okay,
but if you eat this whole thing and these are delicious,
by the way, I've already had three quarters of these.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Just so you know that's not good. The whole thing
in one setting.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I eat it while you're on air, I won't.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Within about half an hour things start to and then
about an hour and a half in you're going okay,
and then within.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Two hours it doesn't work for me. I unbelieved.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
The most satisfying diarrhea you have ever experienced your whole life.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
It's like, oh, and you you know that feeling you
get when you're like really, when you've had a good evacuation,
you look it, you go, I'm a hero, col you know, right,
and you walk out and you're so skinny and light
you want to go a weigh yourself.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
It's that you're commanding.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
This is a good thing to do.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
It's the greatest. By the way, I love it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You know, it's so funny. For some reason on Housewives,
the conversation they don't really show this, but nine out
of ten conversations with all the girls are together is
about poopy.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Really, that's because you guys are always so constanpated, you're
always conspa Or is it because you're full of shit?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I'm sorry, I couldn't help that. Sorry about that. No,
you're not.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, we always talk about poopy. Speaking of housewives, should
we talk about your lifts? Give?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
What the fuck with the ton?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But the disclosing, I mean, you know, talked about it before.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
No kids, no careers, no lifts. Okay, that should add
that to the off limits topics. By the way, I okay,
so this.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is what let's tell the story of how this starts.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
By the way, I saw a thing today. Ever since
you disclosed that I wear lifts. Yeah, so it says
I know Terry's five to seven. I just looked it up.
I'm not fucking five to seven. Okay, not that there's
anything wrong with being five to seven, by the way,
but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I'm five eleven.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You're not five eleven.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, I used to be five eleven. Shrunk a little bit,
I'm not. I used to be five eight, all right,
So I'm five ten and a half. But with these
you know, rock star.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
All right, Well, this is what happened. So our friend
David Kyle owns this company called David August. It's a
men's bespoke, men's tailoring, clothing, clothes. Yeah, and he does
clothes for everyone, like every major superstar, celebrity.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Still own Schwarzenegger, Dana White, everybody, everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So we're not gonna mention, No, that's fine, but we're
not gonna mention who the person is that we're telling
in this story. But this is what happened. So David
was telling us a story once he was off to
Europe to meet this famous actor and he was bringing
all the clothes he had a photo shoot, he had
a movie coming out, all.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
These major A lists.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Major A list guy. And the guy says to David,
don't worry about the shoes. I've got it covered. And
David's like, you gotta cover and He's like, oh, yeah,
I got a cover it. And he shows up and
he has these shoes with these major lifts, and it
took this gentleman four inches taller.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
He's like five to five normally that sure.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Maybe five to seven. Anyway, it took him from not
tall to very tall.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I don't do four inches, okay, I buy the Oh
what do I do?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Probably three?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
By the way, why did you feel the need to
disclose this publicly.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Seriously because you've talked about it before.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Never yes, no, no.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
My stapae staff says, when I walk in wearing these
because normally wear clogs, they go, oh, you have your
high heels onto.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
There are no secrets, deer. So anyway, So so this
happened with this actor and he told us this story,
and I looked at your like, where does it go?
And it's this place not sponsored, by the way, but
it's this place called Increase. I think it's called Increasing.
I'll put a link. Someone reminds me put a link.
It's called like increasing size. They're from China. I love China,
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and so I will buy ten pairs at a time.
And I found out they make sneakers because he needed
like a beachy summer look. But his lifts, so I
got those too. But you know what's crazy is because
I've bought so many pairs, they get messed up and
he will wear two different shoes.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, that happened just recently.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yes, and people will take photos of us and zoom
in and see that he's wearing shoes.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I did that on our honeymoon. Oh that was weird.
That was a black shoe and a brown shoe.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
That was two different colors. That was taking us next level. Yes,
and we were already across the boat today as this
new podcast is being anounced, very exciting. We are literally
on a plane on our way to New York to
do press. I'm going to be on Watch What Happens Live,
which I'm very excited about, with a gal from Love Island,
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which my kids are very excited about. And more importantly Katerina.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yes, we're dropping baby cat JB. Katerina going to Colin.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah. And what's so amazing is Katerina was the one.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Kid who we thought could have a problem when she
was a kid, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Developmental delay.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The neurologist we actually had her have a neurological evaluation.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well at fifteen months old. Cat didn't crawl. Fifteen months
she didn't crawl, she didn't walk, she didn't talk. She
was just happy and very clear, but she didn't do
any of those milestones.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
We thought she might be this.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Or something.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
So you took her into neurologists.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I took her to a neurologist and he did the
m chat on her and he said that she was
apraxic and wouldn't have four words by the.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Age of four, which was devastating.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I mean devastating. And I remember, like it was yesterday,
putting her in her car seat and opening the door
and standing there and calling Terry and crying, yeah and saying,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I took that call during surgery.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You were crying, I go what, And you said, she's
going forwards by four meanings and if you look ever
going to really develop a vocabulary, she's clearly on the spectrum.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
She's going to have learning disabilities. This is a major,
major problem.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
And the pediatrician did not believe it. By the way, By.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
The way, I said BS too.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You called BS and the pediatrician said, I do not
believe that she is a late bloomer. But she did
have I mean she needed speech therapy, she had low
tone in her body, she needed physical therapy. I took
her to many early intervention therapies.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And then never we went and I went crazy researching
this non speech thing and yourself about fishaw.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
We put it in her peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Jelly sandwiches, loaded her, she started to talk, and then
once she started to talk, she.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
She never stopped, so she never show.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
She went from someone we thought had a major developmental delay,
could be on the spectrum, to a freshman at Yale.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
There you go, oh, well, is that neurologe is wrong?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Lots of things are wrong. I was just looking at
a post by someone I follow on Instagram who's on
an IVF journey, which we did we'll talk about in
the series. But her embryos weren't graded well right, it
was like a B plus And I go, well, my
B plus is going to Yale, so you know, you're fine.
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So like I like to give, you know, tell people
about that kind of thing because you just don't know.
But early intervention for therapies I highly highly recommend.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
One of the things I'm really looking forward to is
I can't wait to share with everyone how are hacks
for wellness and longevity and how to live your best
life and how to cheat the physiologic systems and we
know it all. And I got my certification by the
American Board of Obesity Medicine. So I'm going to talk
about all things GLP one and weight loss and to
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be your best self.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I'm really excited to share with that with everyone.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I have a little m D married to doctor.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, it's amazing what you do know actually very important.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Also, I think one of the things that we really
want to engage with everyone on is relationships, especially our relationship.
We've managed so far knock on one to avoid the
reality show curse. I think we're the last couple standing
other than Lisa Vanderpum and Ken Right and so oh
(18:28):
and Rinna.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah and Hamlin so So. People ask us off and
what's the secret? Complete evacuate?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
What I really want to focus in on the next
one is our house story, Dino di Lorenti's property eight
point three acres and Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
We thought this is going.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
To be the greatest real estate rehab of all time,
of all time.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It seemed like a no brainer. And without saying too much,
what I will tell you is it was nothing like
we thought. You don't know any of the details because
we really haven't talked about them, and we're going to
take you through the entire process of what really happened
and where we at.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, I think people will be shocked and the haters
will love it.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So we'll leave it there. I just want to say
we love our team at iHeart. We are so so
excited to be here. We're excited to take everyone that
was fans of you know, my show for the last
decade and bring them over here and start this fresh
new chapter. Terry and I are thrilled. People will ask us,
(19:38):
you know why that's keep doing more things and more things,
isn't it enough? No, you want to know why. We
love working We love working together. We've been working together
for almost we've been together twenty nine years.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It's like forever, it like never ends.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And we just love doing these things and we're excited
to share it all with you.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah. I'm excited. Yeah, I love you. Fall a lot
of stuff to disclose next week, Stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Stay tuned for that. We'll see you guys next week.
M hmmm hmm.