The ADHD Tax w/ Liz Astrof

LIZ IS BACK! She joins Heather to talk about the Jeff Bezos-Lauren Sanchez Venice Wedding - The Wedding Chop trend - THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA 2 - Liz's struggle with The ADHD TAX - Is Heather coming around to Lab Diamonds?? What is a flash sideways in TV production?? Love Island vs Temptation Island - Will Heather go on the new Titanic?? Why Liz is the reason a big Hollywood showrunner did NOT have a second child - AND THOUGHTS ON THE RHOC SEASON 19 TRAILER!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Let's talk with Heather dubro starts. Now we are back
with Liz Astrof speaking of divorces.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yes, who, let's talk about the bezos wedding.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Tell me what I miss because I still haven't dived
into that. How could you not? I haven't dived into that,
but I did look at pictures and what do you think?
I mean ridiculous?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Well let me make these Yeah, well, the things I'm
seeing online, I.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Just have scratched the surface.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, I mean, I haven't, like taken a deep dive.
But this is what I'll tell you I'm reading. Tell
me there's a lot of descent, a lot of people
against the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
People don't because of lawns, because dress, Oh that was
so cheesy. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
They don't like her dress. They don't like the carpet
that was laid down. They don't like that they invited
every Kardashian. They don't like the way people dressed to
the wedding. They don't like Lauren's class surgery, which that is,
you know, I don't like to, you.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Know, throw that judgment down, keeps their own.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
They don't like, you know, Venice was pissed off.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Did they bring that boat. That ship is one, like
if I saw that coming with her on the front
of it. That yacht they have, I don't even super yacht.
Yeah crazy. No.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
People were like very negative.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well did they feel for his ex wife and things?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
His ex wife is a gazillion are.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
She is she must be billions, billions.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
The thing I think is she helped build Amazon.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yes, for her got billions, and she seems lovely, although
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
That's what I mean, Like, did he screw her over? Probably?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Who knows. But what I think is funny is the
memes out there that are, like, you know, I spent
a lot of money with Amazon, and I feel like
I should have been invited.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
That crap. That is so funny. Oh my god, Yeah,
that'll be my afternoon.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I just it seemed like there were a lot of
celebrities there because there are friends with them.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Of course, of course. Yeah, I don't know. He's changed.
Let's just say he's changed.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
There's also theories that Anna Winter took a step down
from being Vogue editor right before the Lauren Sanchez Bezos
cover a Vogue because she because it's so easy The
rumor is that she said no to her being on

(02:33):
the cover a million and wanted nothing to.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Do with that Conde nasked like made it happen.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
And that that Jeff like paid someone put his foot
to I don't know that this is true.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm just telling you this.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Is what the musimer is that allegedly this happened, and
so she didn't retire, like she's still in charge of whatever.
But she took her name off of the Vogue issue
right before that cover came because I because they say
she didn't want to be associated.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Wow, what did you think of Lauren's dress? I just
thought it was so cheesy. I just don't I just
it too much.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, I just thought all the outfits were odd, like
the scaparelly thing she wore the night before. First of all,
I mean, I guess she like love, but it's like
she her waist was so tiny it almost looked painful.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
It looked painful to me, But I don't know people
with like more money. Sometimes I just think she has
the worst taste. But that's me and like such a
sad thing about money, but with people, you know, who
am I to say?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well, I would say this like I don't have the same.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Taste that she has.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
But what I thought was when I saw her wedding
outfits was I thought, this doesn't look like you.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I'm looking at the Night Before one.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, look at the Scaparelli one.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
But I thought, this doesn't look like you because everything
you usually wear is very low cut. You really like
your boobs right, and you like to be sexy, yes,
and so if that's the case, do it.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Why not just do it right? And I felt like the.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Dress she said she was basing it off, this Sophia
Laurn dress. Oh, I mean, I just felt it looked
to me it almost looked like my fair lady, like
it was a little.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Old just old, just old fashioned. And also it looks
so painful and she looks like a mermaid. It was fine.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I just felt like it was too much.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
It was like the long sleeve and the small waist
and then the big hips and then the murmur.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Liked her taste, really though, But it's no.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Trying to remember if I ever met her. When I
used to work on Good Da La.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
My friend Scharine knew her. She was a correspondent for
a half.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
But everyone that I know that from Good day A
loves her.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, I'm sure she Well, I would be nice too, but.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Even before she was going to be a billionaire. Oh
really Yeah, they like her, which I like that.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I like that too. Okay, so I think that dress
is so not my taste. I like totally simple. Oh
my god. I was going to try my wedding dress
on on our anniversary. Yeah, and my husband literally said,
maybe don't. We're going through a lot right now.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I tried mine not. I wore it for I had
a YouTube on my YouTube channel. I was doing a thing.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
It is so cold it would not fit me in
a million Mine did not.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
The back did not zip like three or four. Yeah,
did not zip.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
So there was that.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
But this is what I realized. You know how you
preserve your wedding dress. It only lasts for twenty years.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh what do you mean? It's like a body like
is it like crumbling under there?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't know. But what I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
That I'm going to open it up.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
You got to open it.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
And look at it and then you represerve it. It's a
thing for what well, I mean maybe one of maybe
like Phoebe, wants to wear it or maybe I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I should probably get it like really sticky.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, but then what are you sticky?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
I don't care. I'm kidding. Maybe I'll take it out
and try it on tonight and scare you one do it.
It will not fit, especially with the spread here.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Of mine did not zip the back, it would never zip.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh my god. That's another thing. I live in the
past so much that all I do is think about
when my kids were a little, when I was young.
I don't feel like there's nothing ahead of me.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's terrible.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I do.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I was with I was with another couple who is
very successful producer guy, and like he's got this new
wife and blah blah blah, and we were talking and
any he was in there and he goes, yeah, I
just feel.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Like the best days are behind me.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I do too.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
And I'm looking at the new wife. I'm thinking that
I don't too.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I feel like everything, like everything, and I poured my
heart into these kids and now they're just gonna leave them.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I feel the exact opposite.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, because you and Terry like to like you have
a hole, You've kept your whole, Like I don't know
what we would talk about.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, no, No, I know we really like each other
and I love my kids.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yes, but I'm happy seeing them go because you're happy
seeing them thrive. Yes, I don't know if it's worth
it to me to see them for thrive. I'm rather
than be four years old. It's so much work, I know,
but they're so cute. But then I remember all the
things that were yet to come.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
But back to Lauren Sanchez, I feel like it's also
like I want to give her a bit of a
break because.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I mean, it's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
It is a lot of pressure, but you have to
be up for that if you're well, You're.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Wedding on a grand scale like this, and you want everyone.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Wanting yourself out.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
You want to be on the cover.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Of Vogue, right, you want it? She said, I wanted
my dress to be a moment. I mean, she's embraced.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
It's a moment.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
She's embracing the moment.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I don't know how she sat down, how she did
She just I would just lean the whole night.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
My only regret about my wedding dress was that those
were not the days where people changed.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
No, I didn't change. You mean, like how like Megan
Markle chained into something else.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, people now changed three times three times.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Now they have a ceremony dress, right, and then they
were for like the first dance, and then there's a
dress for the reception, and then there's a party dress,
a late night party dress.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh the after party. Wouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Some people do a thing where they cut their hair
in the.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
During Yep, I left a baby shower to go get botox.
Is that the same baby shower?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
No acow their wedding, they leave it get a haircut.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
They change their off and they cut in a bob.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's nuts. Why not put like a wig on? No?
I guess not, but that's nuts. I have I just
can't imagine, Like I can't imagine changing in the middle.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I just feel like you're gone for too long, because yes,
it's still going to take you four.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Haircut's going to take at least forty minutes. They don't
get colored though, right, So the other thing is that
ivery hours hours later. I have tinfoil and it's taking
a while. It's the wrong color. But I also feel
like I wish I had my bridesmaids wear something more uniform.
I just to rebel against all the bridesmaid's dresses I bought.
I just said, whatever you want. I was so the

(09:09):
opposite of any kind of color black.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, but I wish I had done something more like that.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I had everyone wear the same thing, and it wasn't
really the.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Color I wanted, and a whole color was it. I
really wanted like a like a light gray. Oh, that's pretty, like.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
A silver, but I wanted to use. My dress was
Viera Wang and I Viwer Wang. I don't know if
they still did it, but they made bridesmaid's dresses. Oh,
I'm sure, and so I wanted to, but they it
was new ish. It only had it for a few years,
right or so, so they didn't have a million colors.
So it was like it was grayish, but it had
like a lavender kind of tint to it.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
You know, gray can.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Go yes, yes, whatever it picks up.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, it kind of went that.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
It was a look at your wedding pictures.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
We were in in Style magazine.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
It was very pretty clients was an in Style. My
arm is in one of the pictures throwing throwing something.
So but also yeah, mine was I didn't I didn't
do any of that, and I wish I had my
brides even something more uniform. But I spent so much
money on bridesmaid's dresses that I never wore again. And
my friend, it's the worst, cause, like, you'll wear this again.

(10:13):
So I wore it to pick her and her husband
up from the airport when they got home from their honeymoon.
Like you said, I'd wear it again. But if I
could take that tafaa and like I was broke living
in New York, living else with it, I know that velvet,
I don't know, maybe would It was just so I mean,
it threw all of them out, but.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's just it's they're so bad.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Talk that's more expensive than the weekend. I think the
concert last night, the water and the food that was
more expensive. The bridesmaids stresses probably probably, I would think, so, yeah,
that was that the bridesmaids stresses are, especially if you'd
never get married ever.

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for the show. No, I'm going to England because Ace
found this program at Oxford See founded himself, amazing applied

(12:54):
got in. It's probably not it's probably just like mirror.
He's going tonight, but it's probably.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Like a mirror to where they you're breathing.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
You get in, Like I don't think it was like
a rigorous application process.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
But he's going for two weeks.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
So Terry and I are going to take him to
London and then we're going to go by ourselves to
South of France because.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I want to still be in Europe.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
What are you going to do there?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Party and drink a chop.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Right, that's what.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, it's great, so fine.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Anyway, while we're in London, we're going to see Devil
War's Prada. Oh Svanessa Williams extended her run.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
And I'm amazing, amazing.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Did you see they're doing a Devil Wars product to movie?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
No? Is it with Meryl Streep?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think all the same people are coming back.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Isn't she humbled now by what? I don't know? Wasn't
she humbled by the end of that movie? No?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Remember, it's that brilliant scene, the last scene of the movie.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
You need to watch it again.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Watch it again because it's it's literally Meryl Streep.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
In the back of a car, right, and just her
face and it's maybe fifteen seconds. Is some of the
most brilliant acting ever. She is in her car and
Andy the girl has yeah, Ann Hathaway, Yeah, and Hathaway.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
She's quick, she's whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
And Meryl Streep gets into the car and closes the
door and she looks up and she sees Anne Hathaway
and they make eye contact and Anne Hathaway sort of
waves and she Meryl Streep has this face morph where
fifteen things happen in one second on her face like

(14:23):
I'm watching it, the recognition versus the emotions, and then
her face completely goes dead.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Let's go, you know that?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
And it's so selfservation.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
It is so good.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Like the veil drops for a second and there's humanity,
and then the veil goes right back up and she's
herself again.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
It is She's just so bro I'm looking forward to too.
I'm looking forward to too. Is she the one who's
looking forward to the cloths? Yes? Me too? But and
Stanley Tucci will be back? Love him?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Do you know his dad was a teacher at my school?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Really in Westchester, Westchester, yell Chappaqua. Oh my god. A
lot of my friend's kids are going to Syracuse, go
to Syracuse, and it seems strange to me.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Cat got into Syracuse.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Do you want to go? I haven't been back there
to Yale. I want to go back there when you
go back there.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I went back a few years ago when.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Ame for that, and I couldn't go for when Max
and Nikki were looking at so.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh you went to looks. Didn't you do a thing there? Didn't? Yes?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I did a live podcast there. I wish I could
have gone and it was so fun. And then we
went to Fagan's. Me and Jana went to Fagan's and
we did shots.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Was that weird?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
No, it's great.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Does it all look the same.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
It looks the same and it smells the same.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Oh my god. And Harry's is still there.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
We didn't go into Harry's. It's just but isn't it Fagans?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
You did? Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
And we got t shirts? Max has it? Oh?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Did was all of square? What was it called?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, Marshall Square? Marshall Marshall Square?

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Did it have like all stores and stuff?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's exactly the same. Stop it that hotel that everyone
stays at. Yes, we stayed there at Sheridan.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, that would make me feel better then that It's
not like completely moved on. The dorms are really fancy now.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
It looks say mean, it was really weird. Was seeing
the tribute to the Locker Beat crash?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I was there?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Crazy? Yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I had to stay extra I had to stay longer
for a the Rocks for Jock's final. So my roommate
was dating like some football player and we had to
stay an extra week for that. And then the locker
bey thing happened while we were there, but we got
the test. We got a copy of the test. Cheated. Well, yeah,

(16:35):
so we got a copy of the test. We memorized
the test. I mean, there was so much whatever. So
then we get to the exam and there's five thousand
people taking the damp. This class was so big that
the teacher would announce the answers on a TV station
after so not that who's watching Honestly, who at Syracus
is watching the answer? Who cares? So anyway, so we
go to the test and he makes an announcement over

(16:58):
some intercommon says, I know that the test got out
and there's a different test, And I just remember moving
my giant multi pack of juicy fruit to the end
of the desk and like just being and putting my
head down and just being like, and then his secretary,
what you said back then, No, made copies of the
wrong test. So it was the test we studied, And

(17:20):
then I moved my juicy fruit back and.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Then your answers were all in the juicy fruit box.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
No. I just remember having juicy fruit and being very
aware of it. The flip member. When someone had gum
in class in high school, you were like, oh, my God.
I was like, I mean like big red and you're
like it.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Was like your birthday.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
It was the best thing you have got.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
And Hoo's parent was buying them gum. My mom didn't.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I thought I stole money from my dad's dress room.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
So I thought Hubbababa had spider eggs. That was the thing.
And Mikey died of eating pop rocks.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yes, Mikey died. Did he really know? Pop?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
What did you do with your gum when you were
done in school?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
I swallow it?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
We used to know. We used to swallow our gum.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, I didn't stick it under the desk, I don't think,
but those like I did, like but even having any
any kind of refreshment. All my folders, my paper, like
my school folders had like pepsi on them with like
the dew dripping off of them, and I was like
so irsty and like food folders like always. But yeah,

(18:31):
I got to steal money and regom.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
We used to like take the paper bags and make
covers for our books.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yes, and newspaper, which was always a mistake.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I do newspaper. We did bround bags we.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
El color on them, and then also the college ones,
the covers that had like colleges on them, like Yale.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yes, And also but the paper bags were the best
because then you could draw all over them because you
could draw them. Yes, But because of my ADHD which
now I'm watching TikTok, someone sent me all this stuff.
I've lost two necklaces and three pairs of earrings in
the last month, and I'm so mad at myself. I
lose my wallet all the time.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
But how are you losing?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Where are you losing? What happened was.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Like you take it out of the house and drop
it somewhere.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I think that's what happened this time. But no, I
always wear one of my necklaces. I don't take it off.
And I had another necklace I always wore, and somehow
the other day I took it off for my facial
which I always do, and I keep it in my
like little thing in the consoles car. It's gone, It's
completely gone. It was this being I cannot well, I
don't think it was stolen, but I can't afford to

(19:33):
get another one. And then I had this necklace that said, mommy,
this is like Jennifer Meyer. One of those that I
had gotten a matching one for my friend Colleen when
she was diagnosed with cancer and she was buried in it.
She wanted to be I'm like, dig her up. No,
I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
But I just saw Jennifer Meyer the other night at
a restaurant. I don't know her, but she was with her.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Oh she's getting me married. Yeah, so well, I as
when Colleen died, I had a friend of her friend
ask her if I could get a bracelet for her
little two year old that she could have when she's older.
That says Lily, or that says something, and she never
got back to them. But anyway, So now, so that

(20:16):
necklace I went to find and it was gone. And
I just recently, Oh this is a good story. I'll
make it quick. Okay. So when we were in Atlanta,
I lost a huggy earring that was to replace these studs.
So I lost a huggy earring and the next day
we went out for dinner. The next day I was
at rehearsal and I was like, oh, crab, I forgot

(20:36):
that I lost my earring. So my friend who I
was out with, said, oh, I saw it on the
floor at the restaurant. So I go, okay, dumbas and
what and she goes, well, I felt my years and
knew they weren't mine and left and I go, why
wouldn't you say something? And it became like that is
a window into your Why wouldn't you say I saw

(20:56):
an earring on the floor. Why wouldn't you say that?
And then she so defensive and she goes, well, it
didn't even look like anything. I didn't know it was
an earring. And I go, but you felt your ears
And then she's like, you know what, I could say
a lot of things to you right now, and I
go say them and she goes no. And then was
one of the producers who I love, but this was
really like who doesn't say, excuse me, there's a weight,

(21:19):
there's at an earring on the floor. She does it,
just pick it up exactly? She was I'm not going
to pick it up off the floor because it wasn't
hers exactly, and she felt her ears and that was
the telltale feeling her ears that.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
She's like, no, not mine, yese.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
So then I go to Bloomingdale's after this rehearsal in
Atlanta because I need earrings immediately, anything to distract from
my face, so I'd go to the I'd go to
the mall, and I wind up spending all this money
on these little diamond snakes with a little like little
green elmal emerald head. I'm not on in snakes or anything,
but they were pretty and I just needed something. So
I spend all this money because I get a three

(21:55):
hundred dollars thing back at suspend at Bloomingdale's. So I
was like, Okay, well maybe that's that's fine. So I
get back here one night card Yes, one night, I'm
sleeping and I take them off because they're hurting me.
Two days later, I go back to look for them.
They're not on my nightstand. I think my dog who's
on steroids and ravenous ate one of them. The other

(22:17):
one was smushed on the floor with the stick missing.
So then I bought these other ones, which will be gone.
Were staying hotel in Atlanta. No, not with the snake
ones in my house, so I think. So then I
realize I don't even have the three hundred dollars, and
I look everywhere. I don't even have the three hundred dollars.

(22:40):
For some reason, the three hundred dollars never wound up
on my account, and they said I didn't have to
keep the gift card. So the other day I figure,
I'll call Bloomingdale's in Atlanta because I want the three
hundred dollars and they they didn't have it on record,
that they never sent me the receipt. They didn't have
it on record. So she goes, can you send us
a credit card receipt bill and also a pure of
the earrings? Oh my dog, I'm sorry, my dog ate

(23:06):
the earrings. So I'm looking at my tags, so I
decide to take the one that is still alive but
doesn't have the stick, and I'm trying to take a
picture of it where it looks like it might be
three D but it's just on my hand, just this
little tiny thing, and I'm hoping that they don't know
if it's going to work or something. But it's so stupid.
But then I saw that this is called ADHD tax.

(23:27):
Because I have ADHD. I'm just sick, like I have
a sickness. You lose everything really because of ADHD. You're
not mines, not in it, You're like throw something somewhere.
I lose my walle all my whole life. So this
goes back to the no, I should I have pickers
in my car, that long thing that you pick things
out behind the couch for when I need to go

(23:49):
through a garbage pail in public. I keep the and
I have tongs just in case it's close to the surface.
And you believe that I've gone to the big chill
parking lot with a land the picker and my phone
flashlight to look for something through a public a publica
und I just throw things out. I'm always losing my wallet.

(24:09):
I never have like anything with me that I need,
and I beat myself up so much. But now I
know it's a ADHD tax.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah all right, Well then you have to just come
up with like little ways to not do that. You
can put an air tag in the wall anything, or
don't have anything so the necklaces that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
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Reel r e A L r e a l dot
com slash dubro. Let's have a conversation about lab diamonds
because my friend Jen, who's been you know, one of
my closest friends.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
It's the fourth grade and I love her. She's one
of those really, she's very, very successful she's very.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Very smart.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
She lives up in northern California.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Some very impressive see something something job you know what
I mean, Like one of those.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Jobs see in front of it? Yeah, a CMO yep,
one of those CEO c Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
She does very well.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Wow, and deserves it all.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Anyway, she's super cool anyway.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
So she randomly she's one of those friends like you
could not speak to her forever and then she'd.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Be like, what was the name of it? Like you
wouldn't even be like, where have you been? You just go, oh,
that's whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Anyway, So she randomly just texted me out of nowhere
yesterday and said, need.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
To know your thoughts on lab diamonds. And she goes,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I just don't think I'm into them, and I and
I don't want to know better.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
So here's the thing. And have we talked about this already?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Gain but I even know the difference, we keep talking
about it. I don't care when I know the difference
of a lab like no one knows the difference. Are
they less expensive?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yes, there's wow.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
There's one machine apparently, so far, at this point in time,
there is one type of machine that can tell the
difference between a regular a lab diamond. It's like a
twenty thousand dollars machine and no one has it. So
if you go to a jeweler and they've got a
loop and a thing and whatever, you can't tell. And
you know, if you've ever seen them take one of
those poker things and stick it on a diamond and go, oh,
that's not real, right, it can't tell. Oh, okay, so

(28:11):
and it's cheaper.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Like ten percent of the price, and where do we
go to?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Lobdier.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
One might say that, you know, mining diamonds is bad
for the environment and people die, it's not good for
miners to be down there.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Whatever. So all these things get these they make them
in a lib.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
They make them in a lab.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I don't know, but if I'm understanding it correctly, I've
never just to be frank, I've never bought a lab diamond.
But I'm not necessarily against anymore because now some of
my friends are talking about it, so it's been a conversation.
There's something snobbish in my brain that makes me against.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
It because is that a real diamond?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
But it is because it goes three D printer Do
you think.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
No, No, it's not a three D printer.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
It is a way that they take carbon and squish
it like what would happen in the earth.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
But they can do it in a laugh.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
It's so much better.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
They're not making an oval diamond. They're making a rough diamond.
So then I started thinking, Okay, well, if they're making
like a rough diamond, then it truly is still about
the art of gem cutting, right that someone has to
cut you know, beautiful stone and make it you know,
brilliant and sparkle and no proportions and all that.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Right. Okay, so they still get a rating like a C.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
So my understanding is they still get a GIA. Here.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I'm want to put my thing up so Gabby can
tell me. But my idea, my understanding is they still
get a gia's certificate, right.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, And my engagement ring is a lab diamond.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Gabby's is a she said, her engagement ring is a
lab diamond, my producer.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Here, Yeah, and it's technically a more pure diamond because
it doesn't have like any of the impurities that happened.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, that's my question.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
It doesn't have any imperius to are you saying they
only grow like d color internally?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Flawless diamonds like mine is like technically not a perfect one.
I have a frosted salt and pepper diamond, so it
has irregular irregularities. Irregularities there we go, I know the word,
but they don't control that. Like the diamond grows the
way it grows.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, that's my point. So you can't grow a d
flawless diamond. They just grow diamonds and they see what
they get. So it is like mining the diamonds because you.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Don't know what you're getting.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
That was my question, because if you could just grow
a d internally flawless diamond, then it might as well
be a cube because Zirconia and everyone could just have
a perfect So there's no and there's no value.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Oh is there no value to the Is there no
value to the laptom?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
No, No, there's value to it. That's they're less. No,
they're less. No, it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You can't tell you different there. But they're less valuable.
I mean meaning you pay less.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Right, I should say they are they less valuable less
for them?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Right, there's less labor fees.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
There's less labor fees because they're making in the lab.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
But it's still about the dime.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
You'd still have to find like a good place that
has a good diamond cutter, because it's still an art form,
right Anyway. The long and short of it is, I
don't know. I've been a snob about it, to be honest,
but now I don't know, And now I have friends
that are buying them, and I think.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
What's the difference.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
It's better for the environment, and no one's dying in
a rye, and I think that's better.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's totally better. I wonder if they could match my
stud at fourteen Carrots with a lab diamond.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I don't think fourteen Carrots does lab diamonds. You know,
it's irritating is how much money? So Terry's all four
lab diamonds, right, and he's irritated that we didn't start
talking about this before I got my new ring.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Oh did you get a new ring?

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I So now he's like, really lab diamonds, because there
are we could have paid a tenth.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Of Can you even tell yours? I want to sell
my engagement ring, but it's my husband's grandmother's diamond. But
whenever I would get like just.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Whenever, like Nikki wants my first engagement ring, yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I feel like I was being dramatic over money. I
was like, the weekend was so expensive. I need to
sell my engagement ring. Okay. Also, I wanted to tell
you that when we were in Florida Terrible, I was
walking into our courtyard Marriott and this woman goes Liz
Astrof and I'm like yes, and she goes, oh, I

(32:35):
recognize you from Heather's podcast, and I was like, oh
my god. So my niece and my niece and nephews
were there. My kids weren't there, and I was like,
can you say right here? I'm texting my kids to
get downstairs right now. We're going to do this again
because they think that I'm worthless. So we're going to
do this again. You're going to I have to go.
I have to go, but I just wanted to say
you're great. I go to the cousins and they were like, oh,

(32:55):
and I go. Can you just tell Jesse and phe.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Please tell them get down here?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
But like, it was so funny that no one's ever
like recognized me or commended me for anything, and they
just it was great. I love that, yes, but the
wrong people were there. I asked her to stay for
fifteen minutes. Phoebe was like in the bathroom, and I
was like, oh my god, why are you always in
the bathroom. I was at Nordstrom yesterday, which one over
Central City, yes and I.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Was shopping with A's and we were we were doing
the whole day anyway. We were shopping and this girl
comes up to me. It was like, Heather, you know,
sometimes I get you know, I'm I get nervous because
I'm really good with names and faces, but not always together.
And when someone says hi to me, I have a
like a deer in the head lights for a second,
like are you saying hi because we know each other

(33:44):
or because you know me from the show.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Right, or you know whatever?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
It is so mad at me?

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Right?

Speaker 3 (33:50):
You hate? Did I do something to you?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Do you like my kid?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Or so?

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I was like, it's Julie, and of course I immediately
then I it was a context. Oh okay, so this
girl Julie, so our twins. When I had the twins,
we went to this baby class.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Okay, I would say which one, but you were the
Jackie Rosenberg. Oh okay, that's when I went to the Jackie.
So I went to the weekend last night and it
was all.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
But this was a Jackie didn't teach this one because
it was a twins class, so she had another girl
that taught the twins.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
So anyway, it was me and my friend Barry and
this girl.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Julia, the girl Victoria, and Susan and maybe there's some
other girls too, but that was like our core friends
and everyone did twins and everything was so funny.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
So I haven't seen Julie in years.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
And it was so fun I love that and we
had such a good catch up. And isn't it funny
what your brain remembers. Like I can't remember shit about X,
Y and Z, but I started talking to Julie and
I'm like, so is so and so and We're talking
about who worked where and whose you know, kids were

(34:55):
like this. Then I remembered everything, right.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
That's I do too. I remember every day of pictures.
But this reminds me of I was at Jimboree when
I had Phoebe and she was like like seven months older.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
So was that really annoying song with Jimbo?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Oh God, I don't even know. I block jim out.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, it'll come back to me.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Probably the word Jimbo over was in it. So this
woman comes up to me and she has her first kid,
and we're talking and she's like an aspiring writer and stuff.
When we're talking and I just looked like such a wreck,
and I go, don't I do not have another one.
So years later it turns out she is she co
created the show Mom. Okay, and I'm at a holiday

(35:36):
party and she comes up to me and she goes,
oh my gosh, Jemma, and I was like hi, and
she goes, You're the reason I have one kid. And
then I'm like, oh my god, really, I'm sorry. She
had told the story to everyone on Mom. So all
these people come up to me and they're like, oh
my god, you're Liz, like you're the reason she only
has one kid. And then her husband came up and

(35:58):
he was like, thanks a lot. I know, but I
was really, you really, you were just ways to tell
you don't have another one, please. I mean, I clearly
had yogurt on my shirt, my hair hadn't been washed.
I was miserable.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I was so bored when I had kids because and
I know people think that's crazy, but I have these
twins and I'm used to be going to set for
seventeen hours a day and now I'm at home with
two babies.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yes, and I needed.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
To get out of the fucking house. I signed up
for everything. I mean, those kids were probably two months old.
Three months old. We were at Jim Beree. We were
at the baby class. I was at another, the Donna
Hellstrom whatever her name was in Santa Manas. I was
at her class or whatever. And then it was funny
because me, me and my friend Alex Rosenberg, who I

(36:52):
met at Cardigie Mellon.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Oh wait, you went there?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
No, I went there for a summer program when I
was in high school.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Like I'm telling you to. They have like science, they
have big science. I don't know if they have palient topic.
No one does anyway, So no, apparently Syracuse. No, that's Syracuse.
Where do we just say? Did oh Yale? Yeah, it's Palin.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
By the way, they have family athologies since like eighteen
hundred BC. Well who never, who cares?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
But anyway, so me and Alex Rosenberg were sitting there
because as it turned out, and Alex and I remained
friends throughout the years or whatever, right, but we had
our babies within two days of each other. My twins
and her daughter right, and so we were both like,
oh my god, we gotta get out of the house.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
And we were at Jimbrie. They just laid there, they
didn't do anything, and we were.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Just like, oh my god, I've clapping or.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Whatever, just so we could sit there and gossip while
the babies were playing.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Quote unquote, I I definitely took my kids to do
a lot of things, but I was so guilty about
not working that I went back to work way too soon.
I had a baby nurse. I was so love baby nurses,
and now I was so nervous, and I also felt
so guilty for not working, so I was like trying
to work. I didn't take enough time off, and now
I feel bad. But I did all of that stuff,

(38:06):
and I did leave a show I was on when
my son needed to go to occupational therapy for like stuff,
and I went with him. But now I can say
to them, do you remember when we used to go
here every Friday? And they say no, But we didn't,
So I can just tell them we did. Do you
remember we'd go to the zoo every Friday?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Well, Terry, you know, didn't pay attention to any of
them till they were like sixteen.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Are you serious? Because they weren't like people, right.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
And so it doesn't matter, and that's what's annoying.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
That is what so I used to I used to
bring out the scrap books and to be like, just
look through and it's just see, it's just me, me everywhere.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Just you didn't even have to cut him out of
the pictures.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah. I tell my kids that we did a lot,
but they don't remember the things we did do, which
I'm like, do you remember I left my job to
take you to because you wouldn't climb up a ladder?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
No, they don't remember. So I bother remember speech therapy?

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Remember three days a week speech to language therapy.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
No, you don't remember thing.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Bar I was told I can't be sarcastic around my
son or talk faster around my daughter. That's a big prison.
That's nice to do, though, and they, you know, they
don't like, they don't get it.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
How's your husband?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Oh he did the post production on my pilot? Yes?
How yeah, right wrote it with my brother a little bit.
Because then when post things were happening, I was like,
hard to get the test. He's in the shower. I'm
not gonna tell me, it's in the shower. But he
had to fire someone early on, like an editing thing.
It was a whole thing. But he had to do

(39:38):
it on ten o'clock on a Saturday Sunday night and
they were at work and he felt off. I'm supposed
to be even saying this, but anyway, he had to
fire someone and I asked him to do it in
the bathroom with the water on because I didn't want
to hear it, and he did in his closet and
I just turned the TV up until the house was shaking,
and he want any part of it. But anyway, so
he sat in editing with us and stuff and it
was weird and then was it fun yeah, kind of ish.

(40:02):
But then when he did like I was like, what
is he do because writers don't know what post production
people do well, like fix it and post fix it
and post. But then when everything came together at the end,
it's all the like sound mixing and the color and
he has to arrange all of that and he was actually,
he has such a perfect temperament for it because he's
really calm and doesn't freak people out except at home.

(40:23):
Then it's all you know, yes.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Well, listen, they're all different at home.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yes, they're all different home. But yeah, it was it
was good. I think it was good. It was good. Yeah,
I mean that. Yeah. It was good because I could
ask oh, you know why? It was good because I
could ask him questions that I would sound stupid for
asking other people, like what like when are we getting
that cut? Or when are we doing? When are we
doing picture? When are we doing where are we doing that?

(40:49):
Are we getting another thing? Or what's going on with
those like the font for the thing? Because I wasn't
paying attention on an email, so things like that, I
could ask him. Good, yeah, yeah, so and.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Was that exciting for him to see, you know, something
you created so up close and be a part of it.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I have to ask him. I don't know. I didn't
like when it was like he was working for me,
which was weird. But I didn't like that aspect of.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
It because post production is so interesting to me, especially
well especially on an unscripted show.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Oh yes, the way they cut everything and editing is
fascinating to me.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
It's fascinating, and it really like our post production team
really is a character.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
On our show.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Interesting because the way, not just the way they edited it.
But the way they you know, pull scenes or they
do things.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Now called a flash sideways.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
So instead of a flashback, which is something we've already
seen before. You guys could use this at scripted too,
but they do flash sideways, which is it's it's something
we didn't see before. Oh yeah, but they're flashing back
to something we didn't see yet, so they.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Call it a flash sideways.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Oh, because oh, that's so interesting.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
The flashback is like, you know, if I said, you know,
f you bitch, right, right, and they showed it again
and again.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
That's a flashback, right.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
But if I said that and they never showed it
before and it came up in conversation and they showed it,
it's a flashlight.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
So a flashback you had to have seen already. Right,
that's so interesting. I've never heard of that.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
The editing process is that's like you're when you're in editing,
you're rewriting the show. It's like the final rewrite. You're
like moving dialogue, you're moving people, you're moving scenes. You're right,
you have to read the show has to be twenty
two minutes and nineteen seconds on the dot.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, we can't just shave seconds.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Our first cut that we got was thirty seven minutes.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, it's a lot of time.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
So it's like you have to rewrite the whole show
to fit in that little amount. And then the actors
don't even get to see it. They do it when
they do adr, when they come in to do voice stuff,
but they see one little clip. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
It's so it was, Oh, you don't get a copy
of it, I know.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
So if it doesn't go nobody sees it ever.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Again, Oh you don't get a copy of the pilot.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
No, And I have copies of the pilot, copies of pilots.
They used to give them to you, but they don't.
They don't do and pilots that shows that I've done.
People have asked for stuff for they're real, like pilots
that have on. I'm like, I can't get it for you.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
What I also found so interesting about the editing thing,
especially in comedy, that shaving a second off off of
a pause can make a joke funny.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yes, and we take air out of things, yes, And
then it's like we could add something on someone's back.
You can add jokes on people's backs, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
So at a line while someone's talking away.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah, yes, and I think that that makes that so
much funnier. Like my favorite lines in movies and TV
are a d R are like lines that you can't
that No one.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Isn't it so funny, It's so interesting.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
So interesting. I know. So, but you have this thing
called lip flap, you know, where you can't see you
if you're doing you're putting a line in their mouth
and their mouth isn't moving at the same you see
their mouth, then you can't do that right.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
So they have to be turning around walking away or
it's like someone else's reaction.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Now what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Always yeah, but you've done a lot of it. It's fun.
That part is fun.

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Speaker 2 (45:53):
Did you see the trailer for the new season of
Orange County?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yes? What do you think? It is? Amazing? Time, dying,
fighting and the whole lie detector thing.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Could you die? Oh my god, have you ever taken
a lie detector test before?

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Are they real?

Speaker 2 (46:09):
They're real?

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Oh they asked you about Beverly Hills. Yeah, and you're like,
am I giving it? It's so good, it looks amazing.
I'm very excited because it's going to be my break
from murder.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Documentaries, Yeah, no, it's it's a really good season.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
It it's really so. We traveled so much.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
So there were a lot of trips and there were.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
A lot of events, a lot of fighting.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
There's always a lot of fighting, but it was yeah,
a lot of events, a lot of traveling, a lot
of fighting.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
I didn't recognize camera.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
She looks good.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it looks good. They all look great.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Everyone looks yeah. I would say everyone looks good this season.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Everyone looks good this season. They really There's so much fighting,
and I guess that's what like this also makes like
the table. It looks like nothing all of this the
table for you?

Speaker 1 (47:02):
So do you enjoy more of the fighting, the relationships,
the traveling, Like.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
What do you like?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I enjoy the relationships? Yeah, and the everyday life looked
behind the scenes things. That's what I liked too, the fights.
So I started watching Mob Wives a while ago because
one of the Jen Graziano, who was the producer, but
her dad's in the mafia. So I had a zoom
with her and she wanted to do Mob Wives but
like Golden Girls, which I thought was a great idea
but I couldn't do it at the times. But we

(47:30):
stayed friends, and that show is like I bought every season.
I had to go to bed watching it. It was
these women like ripping each other's hair out, slamming their
faces on tables, like their husbands are all in jail.
They're all like and they're all from real crime families.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
But so anyway, so I met her for dinner and
we went to the place where were sitting in a booth.
I go, do you want to sit on the outside
and inside? She's like, oh, I got to sit with
my back to the wall. And I was like, what's
going to happen to me? But she told me all
these crazy mafia stories. That's like I loved Good Fellas.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I you know what me too.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
I can't wait, but.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I can't I can't watch crime and stuff. I actually
realized recently that I have a difficult time watching TV
before bed.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Oh really I have to.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I don't watch a lot of TV in general. I
like to watch a little bit of everything, just to
you know, go in the zeit guys. And you know,
I'm doing some scripted stuff again.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
And oh you are, oh my god, like a little bit.
Oh to work with you, but ahead, you could write
something for me.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I mean I'm able.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Okay, anyway, we should talk about that, but seriously, yes,
but anyway, So so I tried to watch a little
bit but like Friends and Neighbors?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Did you watch Friends and Friends and Neighbors?

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Friends and Neighbors at John Hamm. Yeah, I was about
to start it. How is it?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I liked it?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
It was good, okay, And Amy Curo's in it and
I worked with her.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I did a guest on Young and Hungry.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Oh okay a few years ago that Amy was on,
and I just love her. She's so talented. And it
was Emily Osmond's show. Yeah, anyway, I love Amy. She
was and my kids came to watch the taping and
she was so sweet.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
So then aren't you like they must think you're a
huge star.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
No, they don't really no.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
And also I'm not like Terry, you don't want them.
Terry will send every clip of anything he's ever done,
any interview.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Like, I'm just not like that. My mom, I don't.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Care her, you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah, but when I was watching Friend the Neighbors, because
there's like angst involved in the show and Rings and
yeah crime.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Oh it keeps you up, I can't.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I just can't watch it. I can watch The Bear.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
I'm sorry to go to Bear this season, and my
friend Adam Shapiro is on it. He owns the other restaurant,
He's opening the other restaurant.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
How about Gary Jeannetti.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
I couldn't now. I I was dying he was. I mean,
Gary is like I know him, and he's the opposite
person of that.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Guy of the character.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Yes, I know, I seen the character in one episode
so far.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Well does he come back?

Speaker 3 (50:04):
I think so. I think he is a big part. Well.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I posted and I'm like, I'm like, oh my god, Gary,
because I didn't know he was gonna be on.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
And I said, I'm surprised you didn't switch. I'm so
proud of you.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
You didn't switch tables Because Gary and his husband, Brad yehiskey,
and Terry and I. We always laugh because we're probably
the two most painful couples.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Oh to a restaurant, because.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
We are all very we're very similar in this regard,
Like you're talking about putting your back to the wall
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yes, so we like to sit where we like to sit.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
And then, like Gary says, this is really funny in
one of his books, but it's like he will sit
there with Brad and they'll be at the wrong table
and be.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Like are you okay? Yeah, are you okay?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
No, no, no, I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm okay. And then
the table they want, like the people get up and
they'll be like, do I move? We are the same way.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
We were just in Croatia and we were sitting having
lunch and Terry really wanted to sit at the table
next to us, and like.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Just let it go.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
They're in the mid their meal. I don't want to
stand over there. Let's just sit here.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
And usually I'd be right there with them, but I
was like, it's fine. And then as soon as those
people have got off his should we move, I'm like
I'm not moving could for you.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
We really took a stand evering was on in like
a side table against Like.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, he was sitting at a table that was not
right for him. His back was to the door.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
None of it none, none of it works long.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
You couldn't fit food on it. But also the fact
that he was I had to. I was like, it's Gary,
it's so crazy. It's like worlds colliding with Adam Shapirou
who we know very well. And also then Gary, I mean,
it's crazy, but it's I like the season.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
It shot so beautifully beautiful.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Last season I didn't watch. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, you should go back.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
But also I love how familial they are. How that
new guy the stage or whatever they call it, he
was holding the baby. It was really sweet.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
It's really really sweet. But I feel they love each other.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
The cousin Jeremy now Ritchie, Ritchie, I feel bad.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I wanted to get back together.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Like he's not going to but why do you want
him to go to the wedding so badly?

Speaker 3 (52:10):
It's so mean, it's so mean. Why I hope he
doesn't go.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
I hope he doesn't go either. Why are they making
him go?

Speaker 3 (52:16):
And the daughter like it's just not too much. I
hope they don't make him go. They're like, she's awesome.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
What else are you watching?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Watching? You watch?

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Have you ever watched Love Island?

Speaker 3 (52:24):
I love them? You do? I do? I watched one season.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I just found out how in real time the whole
thing is listen now crazy and the.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Couples go to be tempted. I only saw one.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Season, that's Temptation. I went, that's different.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh, I'm watching temptation.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
This is Love Island.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
What's Love Island? Man? I under but a rock? I know,
but I have watched current things I have, and.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
I wanted to go over again an episode anyway, car
do you like it was Cardi B? Was just on it?

Speaker 3 (52:58):
One of them? Do they do like a celebrity one
or no?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
But she was there entertaining. Do you make sure it
was Cardi B?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Is it where they're not supposed touch each other? No?
They make out all the time.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Love Island.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
It's been on for like one hundred seasons already. And
what they do is they put these people on this island, right,
and they have what they call the bombshells. They keep
bringing new people in and they try to couple up
and whoever is like the couple at the end kind
of wins.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I don't really know what they went CARDI b was
just on.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
They bring in new people, new bombshells.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
This This is like Paradise Hotel, which is my face.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
They have challenges, but here's what's interesting about it. I
didn't understand why this was so popular, and now I do.
They Basically they are filming every day, kind of like
the like the Real World, right cameras every day or
like Big Brother, all around.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
And they edit it and put it on. It's on
five times per week.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
Oh now edit they live there now, so it's all
so the cast that's on Love Island right right now,
that will air tonight.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
They're on the island right now, brother right and they're
airing it right now. And so they have no idea
if they're doing well.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
If the audience likes because they get voted off. Yes,
they have no idea if the audience likes them.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
If the audience, why don't get voted off? They gave
someone the eck.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I don't know. Okay, I watched one episode. I have
no idea.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
I just thought, so I'm watching the Temptation Island where
they're going with their spouses or whatever, and they get
tempted to cheat. Yeah, but by the way, love is blind.
It is one of my favorite is the Dumbest No
One winds there are two people wind up together.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I saw the first two.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
It's so ridiculous that I can't stop watching it. What
did I just finish? I have to talk about what
I just I've watched Sirens.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I have started there.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
It was a little random. I have a lot of questions.
And also I watched.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
That Nicole Kidman one.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Yeah, the Perfect Couple. I watched that. I thought it
was confusing, but I watched. I like looking at it
and I love the song in the beginning. Yeah, I watched.
I can't remember what I just finished. I do watch
the like did you watch the Poop Cruise one on Netflix?
It's about that that cruise ship that all the like
the electricity burned out on the first night and all

(55:14):
the toilets they couldn't use any toilets or it.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Was what they do.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
They had to go in bags bags, and then they
opened the bar for everyone and gave out free alcohol.
And that was like a disaster and there were fights
and people. There was just sewage the whole fucking boat.
Why didn't they somewhere The whole boat was filled with ship,
that is the whole the whole boat were filled with ship.

(55:40):
It was crazy. And they were telling people to pee
in the shower, so then they were peeing in the shower.
But then you would see what people ordered to eat
before this happened. So the guy was like, I had
a caramel latte float and you're like, because we know
what's going to happen, and it was then I think
I'm going to have the crem broulet and the shrimp scampy,

(56:01):
and I think, well, they had no food because the kitchen.
The kitchen was out of food. They didn't have anything perishable.
They everything was perishable, so they were giving out the
first day. It's like this, it's the worst setup, Like
how did they get off such as see for disaster.
Well what happened was anyway, So they have these big buffets.
The first day, everyone's eating whatever, and then that night

(56:24):
the lights go out. Everything goes out. There was a
fire in the engine. They could see smoke, and everyone's like,
looks like this is going to go bad. It's like,
get off the fucking ship. Get off the ship. So anyways,
did they No, the wind floated them out further from
where they were going. But also they were spelling out
help with people lying one but also one guy like

(56:49):
threw his bag over the side and.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Sing below.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
And then this other guy like people were pooping off
the side of the boat. This one guy was intent
on not pooping the entire trip, and like he was just.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I'd be fine when I'm on vacation.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
I mean, either I said that, I said whenever I'm
away Atlantas, I'd be fine. People were shipping like mattresses,
like pushing mattresses upstairs. It was the best and the worst.
And I can't believe anyone goes on a cruise again.
But what happened was the boats came to push them in,
but the wind was so bad that it took like

(57:30):
it took three more days. I mean it was. It
was literally like it was a three hour tour, a
three hour tour. And they wound up. And then one
dad and his daughter go on a cruise.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Every year and they're still going.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
They're still going. No, thank you, Why I would you ever?
I mean, I don't like cruises to begin with. You're
trapped in like a big you're trapped and you're trapped
just different. It was I've never been on a what
I've been on like a canoe, So so I kayaked
a few summers ago. Yeah, but I wouldn't. I had

(58:04):
to go on two cruises because my husband's family is
obsessed with cruises, and I was like, get me off
the ship. I cannot. The restaurants are actually all the same, Yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Did, because it's all the same kitchen. It's like a joke.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
So it's like Italian and it's like go to Venice
near and I'm like, I had this in uh In
at the country club.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
People, so they ran out of food. So what they
were serving the next day was bread, bread, pickles, and lettuce.
That was the food. So because they had no food left,
so then people were just eating, like hoarding snacks and
hoarding food and hoarding chips and hoarding like fighting like
bites broke out. And then when they opened the bar,

(58:46):
that was really stupid because everyone just thought like now
we'll party, at least we'll get drunk. You're living in it.
You're living in like water is rising like from the shower,
the pea is rising from the shower that is discussed
light in the room, so you can't go alone. Oh
and there's no cell service.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I would I just would never. Did you see like
there's like there.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Was a a cruise ship that got stuck in some storm.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
This was in the last year. Did you see that?

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Yes, but.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Over the ship, yes, water was coming in.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
It was huge and it was they were fine.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
What happened? Were they fine?

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Everyone was fine that When I saw that, I'm like
that they're dying.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
I would have been.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
In Italy there was one that like totally everyone's dead.
It like crashed into the side of Italy in.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Lake tah A bunch of uh really, you know, it's crazy.
We went on this yacht thing and the day we
got off the boat, right all I heard were boat
disaster stories.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
I was like, oh, we dodged a bullet. Maybe we
shouldn't be doing that.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
I think since the Titanic, I wouldn't go on a boat.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
I heard that they're remaking the Titanic the boat Yes,
why because they think it's great and they want people
to come on and dress like the time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Are you out of your mind? I'll be the one
that survived. Yeah, hopefully I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Going to a big necklace and hope for the best.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
If I'm floating on a door with a guy, they'll
probably out in the front of the world. How sick
of that are you? No? I can't. If I ever
see someone doing that on a bay, I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
All right, Well, we're making this a two bird episodes, Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Are we?

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
We are? Oh my god, change my haircut? The oh
my god? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Well, I love you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I could talk to you forever. I'll do to plug anything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I mean, I could still plug my books. It's called
Stay at Work Mom, and it's a memoir and it's
at Amazon. It's on Simon and Schuster. The hardcover version
is Don't Wait Up Confessions of the State Work Mom.
But I changed the paperback.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yeah, so go buy that. And if you see Liz
out in public, please go say hi.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Only if I'm with my kids, only if the kids
are with her, yes, and then or just take a
video and post it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
And then Housewives comes out July. I can't wait it
look thin is it at nine or ten pm?

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
I love that leather outfit you were wearing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
What leather you're wearing? Like this brown oh it's Burgundy. Yeah,
Susan Bender always. I think it's on at nine. I'm
gonna say nine, nine o'clock of July tenth.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I can't wait be there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Okay, thanks for being there.