November 5, 2025 • 42 mins
Aging parents and past health problems have the Dubrow’s pondering life and death.
Hear what Dr. Dubrow says can turn back the clock before it’s too late. And, if Heather passes before her time, Terry admits he’ll be looking to date someone in their prime!!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm Heather Dubrow.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Terry debrou and we're going to keep this between us,
but not really.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Before we begin, I need you to know something. I'm
so uncomfortable. I really thought my outfit was very cute.
But my pants are tied in a way that's like
up all crevices, and my shirt feels tight, and I'm
just like it's tight.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Is Louiston alive? Is there a person in Leuviton?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
He is not alive. Good because ancestors are.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's rolling over his gray that you've got this beautiful
Leviton shirt, your boobs hanging out.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
He is not. He's saying, cheek the black bra showing.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh that's quite a sexy.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Huny you like it?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I do, okay, thank you. I don't know that I
like other people liking it.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Though it's okay. I think you're safe. Meanwhile, I turned
on my new phone. I got the phone, and what
is it with the phone drama? I've had the normal
phone drama. I tried to get an uber today and
my ubers not set up the pastor's wrong. I don't
know did you set yours up yet? No?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Because I was doing a thing over the week and
I was afraid I lose all my apps. I thought
it was supposed to get easier, this technology thing. I
remember there was one time we bought the iPhone where
they like bumped in and like bumped each other, and
within like a millisecond, all the data was transferred.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
We were going out to dinner with my mom on
Saturday night and I was setting up my phone and
it said it's going to take three and a half
hours if you do it this way, or fifteen minutes
if you do it that way, but then you have
to wait for your apps to download. And I went,
you know what, I'm going to bite the bullet. I'm
going to do this three hour thing. I have time,
and I was on my computer anyway, so it was fine.
And I got all the way down to six minutes left,
(01:40):
and we were sitting at the bar and it died
and I had to start over.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeahgic, you know it's funny. I've noticed our family, women
in general, have a very different relationship with how much
iPhone battery is left than I have. So I started
to get a little shorter breath at about three quarters
and I need to plug in. You guys will let
it go to two percent left and go, oh, by
(02:07):
the way, did you bring a show charger? No? Oh, okay,
this might be.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
A mars Venus thing, because I think the gas tank
could be the same.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, yeah it is, because the gas tank if it
gets anywhere near a half, I feel like you need
to go fill it up.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I'm like, all right, So there's thirty seven miles
left and I'm only going eighteen, so it should be fine.
I could probably get there and back.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Now, many times have you've gotten back in the car
when you've made that compute. You get back and you go,
oh my gosh, I got a whole day of driving,
and I now only have seventeen left.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's terrible. It's happened to me before. Big I've tried
to get better about it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I can't. I need power, Gottie. I must always be
plugged in.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I have to say after last week's Real Housewives Orange
County season finale, lots of comments about so I mean, listen,
there's a lot to unpack there, But I mean everyone's
comments about my putting the ashes in the canal of
my dad.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How sweet?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah it was, but it was so surprising to me.
You know, it's I think I said it on the show.
But like when I first thought, oh, I'm going to
take my dad, you know, to Amsterdam with me, I'm
going to put him in the canal. I mean I thought,
I didn't realize how emotional it would actually make me
and how much better I felt really after oh one
(03:29):
hundred percent. I think I was just holding onto a
lot of things. And you know, however you feel about
where you came from or your parents or whatnot, it's
only affecting you, so you have to get on the
other side of that, right. So I really felt like
there's never going to be a resolve, and that's okay.
Not everything has to be dissected and figured out. But
(03:52):
I felt like he and I. He wasn't there, but
he and I had a good moment together and I
and I appreciated it. And now now I'm not like angry,
I'm not holding on to things. I just I feel like,
you know, with the ashes in the canal. There it
went and the way people responded to it was just incredible.
But I did get a lot of messages about getting
(04:15):
cremated and being Jewish. Is that the thing? Well, we're reformed,
so it doesn't matter. I think you can, you know,
have almost anything and you know, be buried there and
that's fine, but there. What do you remember though, when
we when my dad passed away, I didn't know that
he was being cremated. I would really like to know
(04:36):
if my mom actually discussed that with him, or that
was just what she wanted to do. I don't even
know the answer to that. But what I thought was
a little bizarre is that they cremated him, put half
the ashes in an urn, and they buried the urn
in their family.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Plot and put the other half of the ashes where.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
She split it in three. She took one and then
she gave me one, and I would assume one is
for my sister.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It's like an inheritance. Here's your ashes.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's like I lived my whole life with this person
and all I got was this bag of ashes.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah. I you know whether or not it's okay to
it's to the individual. You know, I'm sort of over.
I'm not that into Uh religion, No, No, what do
you want?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Have we discussed this?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Uh? Yeah, I want you not to do anything financially crazy?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No, I mean, do you want to be cremated? Do
you want to be buried?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I want you to go cash in the cheer life
insurance policies and go enjoy yourself well.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Before I cash it in. Do I bury you or
cremate you?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Do I turn you into a diamond? Talk about the
ultimate lab diamond?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You know they do that, they turn ashes into diamonds. Yes? Really?
M h. I think whatever's easiest.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You don't care, no at all.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
No, I must say. I had a weird moment yesterday.
I was about you know, I sleep intermittently in the night,
and I fell asleep maybe from three to three twenty,
and then I woke up with three twenty and I
had this thought that, oh my god, within thirty years
I'm going to be dead.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
This is turning into a very macabre.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well isn't that what you're talking about? Death?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Death?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh yeah, good.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And then I thought, oh my god, I've only got
and to be honest, I'm sixty seven. I probably have
potentially twenty years left maybe thirty, yeah, maybe twenty to
twenty five twenty third, I thought that's so little life
sort of had a moment of like shortest of breath
freaking out, and then I went, remember, you're a stoic,
your stoicism, right, it's okay, it doesn't matter. What do
(06:48):
you expect me? But none of us get out if
you're a live bub bla. But I had to like
talk myself down from the fact that this is it,
this is the last portion of my life. And then
I went and pooped and I felt better, to be honest,
you cleansed, and then I don't. I went back to
(07:09):
bed and I never really thought about it again. But
it was weird. It was, you know, it was gripping.
It was gripping for maybe five minutes, you know. But
I know that I have friends and people think about
their mortality all the time, and I never think about
my immortality because you know why bother.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Right, I don't think about it either.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You don't ever think about that. You're not going to well,
you're still maybe when you your husband is older than you,
you still have that comparison.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
But what's weird is you and I both we both
lost our dads, yeah, and our moms are both still alive. Yeah,
that to me will be a weird thing. I think
when we're sort of I know this is an odd
thing to say when we're adults, but like when you're
an orphan. Ye, like when you don't, it means you're
next in line. That I think is probably Jarren.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah. I mean my father developed polycystic kidney disease, which
is a congenital disorder where you're kidneys evolve into cysts
and they stopped functioning. And then once you know, he
had no idea, you know, and it just happened and
one of them bled and then he ended up in
the hospital and then he went into renal failure, was
(08:19):
on dialysis. Uh, and terrible. It was terrible. And then
he passed away. And I remember there was a little
bit of a relief when he passed away, you know,
because someone's sort of you know. And then my mother
and so my father had diseases and he still made
it to his eighties.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, how old was he?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, he wasn't eighty was so he's born in I.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Think our dads died at the same age.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
My dad was thirty two, I mean, born in nineteen
thirty two, and so it was my dad thirty four.
My dad didn't make it into the two thousands.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, he didn't hit eighty.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't know we would have celebrated an Yeah, so
maybe he maybe was seventy eight something.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, my dad was seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And then my mother, who is like ninety two essentially
and has dementia but remembers me. Feel me if I
go over one day the very next day, when I
talked to her, she'll say, you know, I haven't seen
you for a while. Go, I was there yesterday, mom.
But the good thing about her memory loss is that
(09:22):
I've always been able to crack up my mother. My
mother finds me very very funny, very funny. And maybe
that's why I have that sort of hubris of thinking
I'm funny when I'm actually not as funny as I
think I am. Right, you've always said that I'm funny.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, go, I go, you're funny because you're a doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm funny for a doctor. Yeah, but I wouldn't be
funny for a person who's actually really funny. But whatever. So,
but my mom finds me funny and always has. So
every day I talk to my mom where I tried
to every day, and she can't remember what we've talked
about before, but she knows that there's this thing I
do that will crack her up. And so oh, ten
(10:01):
minutes in the conversation. I stare at the phone and
I go some mom and she knows something really funny
is coming, yeah, but she can't remember what it is.
So I basically tell my mother the same joke every
single day and she laughs like it's the first time
she's heard it. Wouldn't sex with your partner be great
like that? Wouldn't it be great if, like, after twenty
(10:22):
nine years, it was like the first time you've had
sex every single time, Yes, I would like to have
sexual dementia.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So you could have sex with me for the first time.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
So do you go, oh my god, this is like
the greatest thing ever. And then you try to tell me,
oh my god, this is the greatest thing. Oh, no,
sex with you is fabulous, but it's not like the
first time, second time thirty Well.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Maybe unpopular opinion, but I think it's better now. I mean,
when you first start having sex with someone, it could
be exciting and all those things, but like once you
are with someone a long time and you know each
other's bodies and stuff, I think, I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Know, the comfort level is great, but you know, the
initial uh, you know, excitement happen forbidden thing, you know,
But anyway, so, yeah, I tell her the same joke
every day.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
By the way, I know this because I hear.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And it irritates you. Here, well, it does irritate.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I love you. I love your mother, and I love
that you can crack her up like that every day. However,
if you were the person sitting next to this conversation,
it's great for Terry because he likes to tell the
same joke and story over and over again. It's great
for his mom because she cracks up and it's so funny.
But for me and the kids, if we're all around,
(11:36):
we're all like, Okay, the chicken story is coming up.
We gotta go.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, well, like you know a Sebastian Maniscalco and uh.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Are you going to compare yourself to Sebastian Maniscalco.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Maybe let's not tell these gifted immedia do. When they
go on tour, they have the same act every night.
It's just a new audience. So they have this really
amazingly funny act.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's the part that's important here is it's a new audience.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, so my mother is a new audience. We're not
every single date. The problem is you have to hear
the whole joke every day. And I don't know if
the audience ever wants to know what the joke is. No, okay,
well if you do, let us know in comments below
whatever that means. It's so funny and I'll tell it
(12:23):
to you in the future.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
What what has surprised you the most about, like when
you were younger, you know, when you're a kid and
you I don't know if you did, but like I
remember being a kid in being worried sometimes about like
your parents dying. Oh yeah, right, remember that. That's like
a little kid thing. Yeah, because you're worried you're going
to be left alone and whatnot. But what has surprised you?
(12:45):
And maybe it's different for you because you're a doctor,
But what is has anything surprised you about, you know,
your parents as they got older or dying or any
of that.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, it's I mean, well this is sort of negative.
But it surprised me has how ill prepared they were
to get older? I know, how they had no plan
financially nor physically mine too. They were like morons, they
were basically children. Yes, they it's you know, like you
should save for your kids college college fund for you know,
(13:17):
we've talked about this our parents never understood the idea
of saving financially physically for your later years. Like you know, Luckily,
there's guys, there's science influencers now who talk about the
marginal years, the frail two years, and that if you
don't go into that last portion of your life when
(13:41):
you naturally tend to become frail and older and marginal,
if you don't go into it working out, eating this way,
taking these supplements, then you just got decline. You decline
very quickly. And and and our parents did that, and
I watch them. Dude, I go my my mom, even now,
I remember say to her, because I've worked out my
(14:01):
whole life, and I went through every workout, big workout
thing that there was in the seventies, was running in
the eighties, it was triathlons. In the nineties, it was
Stallone's Rocky three, lifting weights the two thousands, it was
supplements and life.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But don't you think it's also generational, because what I've
noticed is our parents, who were you know, around the
same age, maybe mine a little bit younger. Our parents,
you know, they were from that generation where they didn't
work out right. The financial thing is very surprising, especially
(14:39):
for your dad and my dad, who were very bright,
clever guys and both made a lot of money. It's very,
very strange, but I would I would submit that we
have friends in our lives that are a little older
and they're sort of on the cusp of bridging that
(15:02):
generation that did absolutely nothing to like yours and below
where we understand the power of the supplements and the
working out and the financial stability like they have some
of it but not all of it like we have
very I don't want to say who they are, but
we have like close friends that get the finance thing.
But man, they don't work out at all. They don't
do anything, and they look good so they don't feel
(15:23):
like they have to do anything. But that that's going
to catch up.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean, you know they always say youth is
wasted on the young.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Well, diet and exercise is wasted on the youth as well,
because you really need to diet and exercise when you're
going into the marginal years like we are. This is
the time where if you want, if you don't do
it super intensely, now, you're going to become that frail guy. Today. Today,
I actually saw a bunch of new patients today and
(15:53):
I'm looking at this. I had this husband and wife
come in and I'm looking at that. I'm going, oh,
they really they haven't done anything. They they they're mildly healthy,
but they really look frail and old. And I looked
at them and I go, wow, they look like eighty
ninety whatever. They look like what I remember old people
(16:14):
looking like. And I look down at their birth dates
and they were both younger than me.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, And why is that so? What I see all
over Instagram? Is this one of those memes that's like
there's certain like inflection points, there's certain ages where your
graph shows that you live, there's dramatic agent And the
reason why I'm very, very scared about it is that
sixty is one of them. And I'm fifty Am I
(16:40):
fifty six? Yeah, I'm fifty six, So I forget. But
what forty is one of them?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Or forty three something like that, And sixty do you know.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's seventy one, seventy two, seventy three, Oh, it's seventy
one point five.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, they were very clear that sixty you're going downhill.
I did not like that.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, you know, now, sixty to sixties it's more of
a range. Okay, but you know you've seen people who
suddenly you haven't seen it for a while, and they
suddenly just got incredibly older looking.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Sometimes it's regional too.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But the thing about the seventies the early seventies is
that's not so much. You do get incredibly older looking
when you're in the seventies. It's when you hit that
frailty point. That's a very distinct point in your early seventies.
Is if you don't exercise in prep and eat protein
and take supplements and keep your lean muscle masks, you
(17:39):
hit that there's no going back once you hit frailty.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So eg ego and vanity aside. You're saying that if
you want to stay young, fit, my frail, alive, and healthy,
you have to do all these things before you get
to that frailty point. And once you hit the you
can't go back, because you can go back.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Esthetically, you could have a face.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, there's procedures you could do,
but it's the internal stuff that we ignore.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm talking about the thin bones, the linben, the lack
of muscle mass, the curvature of the spine, the easy
fracture of the female. You know what I'm saying. Once
you get to that, the osteoporosis, the spinal you know.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So how do we avoid this? What is the checklist?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I think everyone at forty Yeah, I think all guys
should start taking a little testosterone, really gendered medical supervision.
But it's like I take test Get your butt in
the weight room. Lean muscle mass is the single most
important thing, no question about it. And then you've got
to do your car do you off? But women need
to women.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Need to lift weights to bones.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah right, that's why I'm such a fan for you too.
So the other thing that happens is, you know, in
terms of the way we look both internally and externally,
is collagen production. You know, you're a seventy percent of
your body is held together by a protein called collagen.
We all know what it is. It's literally the glue.
People won't really realize collagen is not just in the
skin and contributes to wrinkles.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Right, because that's how people think of it as like
in your face, it's in your joint osteal.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Porocess is the lack of collagen in your bones and
even you know, your heart your liver, your kidney. Are
these specialized cells that provide a specialized function for the
body physiologically. But what holds them together structurally is collagen.
And so if you need, you should take a multi
source collagen peptide every single day and lift weights. And
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we do, and we lift weights. And I looked at
these people, and so one the husband was sixty seven
and the wife was sixty five. No, yeah, the husband
was my age. The wife was sixty five. But I
was still a little old, younger older than the husband, okay.
And I looked at them, and I thought, I can do.
I'm not an extraordinary physical condition. I'm pretty fit, but
(19:59):
I could. I as a warm up in the gym,
I do five sets of fifty push ups at sixty.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Sevens here we go. No, hold on, okay, no, I'm laughing.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Anyway, So I thought, how many push ups could this
guy do? I don't did you?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Did you ask him?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
No? You know, I asked him what I usually ask
older people. You ever heard of chat GBT? Do you
know there's a fourth adjuster of revolution? Oh my god,
let me show you this, this this uh app that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Say, let's do push ups?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, but I you know, most of my patients that
come in are either asking about or on a GLP one.
So I talked to them about that. Right, that's kind
of funny. I know, I will do an hour console
and a patient who comes in for a procedure, I'd
really rather just talk about their health and wellness mostly,
you know. But anyway, so I looked at that, I go,
(20:51):
you shouldn't be in here on the operating table. You
should be in the gym, you should be on the treadmill,
you should be eating protein.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And then they come sign up faster, by the way.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, I mean, do I care how many pages I
have these days? I really don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
No, No, I mean, like some when you tell people
not to do something, it takes them sign up more.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah. But so that's the message. It's amazing how many
people don't know this, and just like how many people
don't know that, you know, computers are about to take
over our lives.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh my god. Stop. So all right, so what we
were talking about what to do? What else we can do?
I mean, obviously all right in the simple totally simple
like eating right, exercise, for sure, But also I mean
(21:39):
you and I always talk about this but it's about
monitoring yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well surveillance for cancer. When you hit fifty sixty, for sure,
you have a job that you're either employed doing the
job or you're unemployed not doing the job, and your
job is to maintain your health span and to live
because this is it, this is the last part of it.
So you have a new, bad, new job, and your
(22:05):
job is you have to do these three or four
or five things every single day, and if you do
it in a very specific way, it's actually fun.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah. And I think for women, especially with menopause, which
is finally starting bit by bit to get talked about.
I mean obviously, yes, all those things and weight bearing exercises,
but I mean I'll take anything, honestly, if they tell
me it's going to help me stay fit, juicy young,
(22:37):
I'll take anything.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Can we can we pause for a second. Juicee juicy y?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I mean juicy everywhere, every orifice, my skin, my every everywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Anything to combat the ozampic vulva.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You don't have ozepic vulva, right.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Uh So, And it's simple, it's but you know, if
you don't do it, then you you're definitely going down
and given it away. Man, Yeah, you're giving your life aways.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's so easy. I have to say, like, and I
know everyone sees it all over the there's really good.
We're not sponsored, so I'm not giving it all away.
But I'm just telling you there's so many places that
you can go online and get the GLP ones and
get hr T. I mean even Weight Watchers is doing
it now. There's like so many good programs out there
that you can do.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, but the single most important thing you can do
is exercise.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Absolutely, But I'm telling you, for women, we got to
do more than exercise. Yes, you have to exercise, and
you have to do more.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It's really very I don't want to be labored to network,
but it's a very very simple list of things to do.
It's a question will you do it or not. What
you don't really realize at fifty sixty and seventy is
you have a disease. You now just got a new disease.
You know what it is? What aging?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, So if you don't treat that disease, that's the
way to think of it. Aging leads to untreated aging
leads to what do we start this conversation with death?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
How do you think our kids will handle us getting older?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's interesting that this is real. I have weird thoughts
about this. Maybe I shouldn't share this. Yeah, I want
to know. Probably not. But we are quite well off, okay,
and for now never now. Yeah, it's getting better all
the time, by the way, but we're done very well okay.
(24:29):
And you know, do you really want your parents to
live forever if they're going to get our fortune?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So Nicole Kidman did this limited series with Leef Schreiber
and basically spoiler alert if you haven't seen it, but
the whole thing there's a murder and all this stuff,
and it basically all hinges on the fact that the
adult kids weren't about to inherit their trusts because another
baby was going to be worn and it was going
(24:57):
to restart the clock. So there was a m Is
that crazy?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
That is?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Are you worried about that? Well, no, they're gonna kill
us because they want the money.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, not worried about that. But I mean for them.
I you know, if let's say I hit ninety and
I start to get really frail and I'm out of it,
and you know I'm not. My life isn't very functional.
You know, yeah, and let's say you weren't in the picture.
(25:25):
But let's say the exact same thing happens to me.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm dead now.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No, no, no, What I mean, was any any kid
in their parents? You know, if your parent is incredibly
successful and you hit like ninety and you're gonna sit
there and percolate, do we just.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Want them to go?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You want what are you gonna do? I like to
be I'd like to go and let them step the joint,
put them down. No, I'd like to go quickly and
let my kids enjoy.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
No. No, I get that. But if you're percoly, what
are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I know, but you're asking me how to where our
kids feel. I think at some point, if you watch
your parents and they're sort of marginally alive, they're like,
come on, you know, it look like you're suffering. Plus
I'd like to get my hands on that pot of gold.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Then you know what, I don't think that's true. I
have a friend whose dad is in his nineties and
he is a very famous producer, and she just loves
him so much. She doesn't feel that way at all,
And I think our relationship with our kids is very similar,
and I don't think. I think I think they'll want us.
I think they want us to be around as long
(26:30):
as we can.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, to be honest with you, if I what i'd
like to do is if I get to that state
where I'm and I don't know what's going on, and
you know, they're wiping my tush and all that kind
of stuff, do I have to do that I'd like
to make. I'd like to see them enjoying the fruits
of our labors.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right, So you want to give them the money, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Then you can't the taxes and all that stuff. I
don't know, but I mean, one of the things I
enjoy most about being successful is the fact that I
know I'm leaving it to you and future generations. That
turns me on. I really like that. I really like
that feeling. Yeah, you know I did well.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Speaking of parents, my mother just moved to Los Angeles.
Yes she has, she has, Carol has landed, Carrol so
self sufficient. I have to say. She's eighty three years old.
I mean, the move was a disaster, tired, the worst movers,
They broke everything, they didn't put anything together, and they
left a shit show basically. But we brought in, you know,
(27:35):
the team organized it, put everything away and whatever, and
she like, she is totally fine. Took herself to the
symphony the other day. Your mother's the bookstore has if
I met a friend.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Your mother is very interesting and very layered and very colorful.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yes, she's eighty three and totally and another one that
doesn't work out, doesn't do anything, but is fine.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Your mother would make an incredible reality star. Well you
never know, because there's yeah, there's several types of reality starts,
people that do really well, those who are aware and
those who are unaware and who are fascinating.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
So it was interesting. So I got messages because I
was I posted some things when she was moving about.
You know, she's here or whatever, and I'm making her
do a TikTok with me that I think is going
to be so funny. But people were asking why she
moved out here, and it's like, you know, when your
parents get to be a certain age, you need them
(28:37):
to be closer because you know they're gonna she's gonna
need help, you know, God forbid, you know she has
a health issue. Can't be flying across the country to
New York, because that's what happened when my dad got ill,
and that was difficult. But she was there. Yeah, but
that was difficult for me and my sister.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, it's kind of a weird concept here. A lot
get closer to me, so, you know, rather than when
you were healthy and we could hang out, well we
want it. Well, well she's healthy now.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I mean, full disclosure. I was saying to them for years,
even when my dad was alive. You know, you have
two kids and six grandkids, and you live nowhere near us.
They had three homes, none of which were near.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But they leaved fat They have led fabulous.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Lives and that was the that was their choice. I remember.
I remember having an epiphany one day when I thought, oh,
I didn't have kids so my parents could be grandparents.
I had kids because I wanted to be a parent.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Your parents have led your mom and dad and now
your mom have led a very focused, enjoyable life, one
that they enjoyed all the time. They were constantly traveling
all the time, constantly doing cultural things, expanding their minds.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And what's great about her is she likes to be alone.
She handles herself, so she's good. I think it's interesting.
I'm gonna I'm interested to see how she integrates into
society in Los Angeles because different society. Well I don't mean,
I don't mean it as society. I mean in society,
(30:16):
Like LA is such a different place than other places.
You know, some people, you know, you think of it
like a coal mining town because it's Hollywood, right, so
everything is very Hollywood based. There's the museum, Gala is
is all celebrities. Lakhma was just last night. It's all
celebrities and billionaires and whatever. It's just it's a different
(30:37):
kind of place than she's ever lived.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, you get invited to all of the cool LA things.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Not everything, but I definitely get invited to something. But
my mom is so interested in She's an artist and
she likes the theater and she likes, you know, the
opera and the symphony and whatever. And I'm just I'm
curious to see what she does. We'll see. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
So my mom. You know, my mom was a terrible chooser.
Of husband's the worst.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Even her boyfriends were terribly terrible, and they were all
kind of the same guy. She liked a very no
that way, contrarian type.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, and then once my my so my father passed.
My stepfather passed away. He was a giant a hole.
My father passed away. He's I ahle not to me.
But how do you.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Think how do you think she handled being without a partner.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Very well? I mean her last boyfriend who she had
for a long period of time, when she she was
so sick of him that when Jerry Jerry, yeah, Jerry
Epstein of all things. Yeah, yeah, he was such that's.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Jeffrey, right, So it's not actually.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
The same Well Epstein, Jay Epstein, good and I'm close enough.
But anyway, by the time he got ill and couldn't
go out, and he was pretty pleased.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That was like she was like, yep bye.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, to the point where I'd say, hey, Mom, how's Jerry.
He go she go, yeah dead, still dead. I go, okay, good,
good good. Yeah, I'm just checking. But uh, you know,
she she could pick him so once once she was
you know, I think she got the point where she
didn't want to date anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
But it's funny. Your mom and my mom are very
similar in that way. They both liked being alone.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
They both liked being alone, yeah, and they both chose
would you say I follow was a difficult guy?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I mean a bit of a contrarian, I would get that.
But he wasn't an a hole.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
No, he was very social too.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But anyway, what if I suddenly croaked? What would you do?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I mean, listen, when you had that stroke, our lives
flashed before my eye in like two seconds. That was
I mean, that was yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
But my stroke was you know, sixty one seconds of
dysarthria where I couldn't speak very well.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
It doesn't matter. I'll telling you what it looked like
to me, and that's that's was my experience.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But anyway, your young, beautiful wells can I.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Start taking applications? Is that what?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You might take? Applications for a future employment? But uh,
I think you know you know what I want for
you if I die or when I die, I want
you to, like, do your grieving thing, Get it over with,
put it in a box, put the bow on it,
put it away, and go enjoy the rest of your life.
Do not suffer, do not stop. Get a companion or
(34:01):
several or whatever the hell you want to do the
whole I want you to enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I you know me very well.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, you'll suffer, but then you'll come out of it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I don't know. I can't imagine dating again. We've been
together third, almost thirty.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You do very well.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I think maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I wouldn't want to date Heather to Brow.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We didn't say who would want to date me? Who
would I would be? Would I be able to go
out on dates with?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Of course is would you go for the hot young dude?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Okay, so then you'd want the billionaire. You have to
be a billionaire to date Heather to Brow because you
have it already. Nothing you nothing, nothing he could do.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I don't know what. Does he have a plane?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You'd have to have a plane. Yes, And it couldn't
just be like a citation no, exce less.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It has to be can't be like net jets, can't.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Be a challenge that probably has to be a g
fiver above. Yes, and maybe you know, even a well whatever,
let's not go crazy. So no, I think I think
you would.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Paul kidding aside, I think I'm not sure I would
ever be able to date again. I'm not sure that break. No,
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I don't think I could.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
You could say that, but I think I would pour
myself into the kids' lives in my own life and
just be like happy like that. No, I think you
know me, I would be devastated.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
You wouldn't be wrecked for a little while, and then
you know, you'd know that I had said a thousand
times I want you to live your life, because you're
not that far away from me.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But knowing we're ten and a half years apart. But
knowing that and living your life for two different things.
So what happens when I crump? If I crump first,
what would.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
You want me to do? Crawl into a hole and suffer,
correct till I died? Yes, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Don't bring some hoe into my bed? No, and do
not if you start dating some hooker hooker, Yeah, she'll
be a hooker. Of course, she's just gonna want your money.
Remember the person you were.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Just having that unappealing.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You're now going to be the old dude that's rich,
and so that's what they're going to want.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What do you realistically? What age? Rage?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Do you think I would you would date young? Inappropriate?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
How old are you when I die? Now? Is it
right now?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Say it happened next Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well, let's say last Tuesday, because that's terrible. You don't
want to predict my debt. You have me to die
on in Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm kidding. Let's say let's say it happened, you know,
with her fourthwith or whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I don't know what that means, but.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
As we sit. Okay, No, I'm this.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It has to happen in the past, so it doesn't
happen because then if I died on Tuesday, you'd feel terrible. Anyway. No,
if I had already died last week and you are
sixty seven, I mean, look, our oldest kids are about
durned twenty two, so you know you can date a
thirty year old?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I mean, could I could me and Nikky go out
and pull chicks together? As the question?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
That is so cool? That expression anymore, you know, and
the fact that you think it is is a problem
right there.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Uh, I'm kidding anyway, Okay, you say, what would you
like me to do?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
What would you what age range would you think would
be appropriate as a sixty seven year old man for me?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, because I'm different, meaning I would date differently than
are different than it's a typical sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I'm glad you've thought of this. What would you date?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I never I haven't thought of this can give it
right now?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Noted?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Well, I think, oh boy, there no, there's no right
answer to this.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well, now you got to finish it. Christmas present just
got larger.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Though, what age range? What I want to date?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It? Would you?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Really? Do you really want me to answer?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, I'm actually curious because I would date older. I'm
fifty six.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I would date older than me.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Older than me, I would only date someone like sixty,
like in late fifties and up.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I don't I would not want to be with a
younger person.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, I would date.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I don't know, liar, you would date in the forties, forties, no, fifties, thirties? Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Really? Yes?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Really?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Of course, question is what I date over thirty five?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
By the way, they could be your daughter.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
They could be by the.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Way, they could almost be your granddaughter.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
If I had a kid at twenty forty seven years later? Yes,
I think.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
What do you talk to a thirty year old about?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
It depends do they have a PhD? No?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Uh, PhD doesn't want a sixty year old widower.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
What do you talk to a thirty year old about?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yes? Me, Oh my god, you're totally right. I'm so stupid.
He's good. He would be with a thirty year old
who just cares about your money and hot and she
will just sit there and laugh at everything you say.
By the way, I get it, you.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
See now, I do a thirty three year old who's into.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Cats yep, and just will sit there and laugh at
your jokes. Yeah, Like it's like your mom. You can
tell her the same story over and over and over again.
You just have to make sure that you keep your
connection with Christina at Van Cleeve.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I mean al Pacino's what eighty how old is the
woman he just had a child with.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Theyvery young, she had her twenties. All joking aside, and
I know you're not really joking, but could you really
talk to someone that young all the time? Well, like
as a life partner, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I've also reached a differency like I like to be alone. Yeah,
so I don't know that I would want to hang
long for any hours. You know, it'd be more like it's.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Going to boner and go no, laugh at my jokes,
boner and go like.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
That kind of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, now, I know.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Okay, would you rather do that than fall in love
with somebody or something?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
You do not fall in love I will.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I don't think I'm capable of it.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
He's probably not.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
After being with love of my life for one hundred years.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Well, you know what they say. They say that when
you have a soulmate, you have a love of your
life and they passed away. They say those people tend
to move on quicker because they know that so well
that they need to find someone. I might not be
saying that exactly right, you get the gist.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, but anyway, I have to be honest. I don't Luckily,
I will pass away before you.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
If the hooker touches my things, I will come back
and haunt you. I'm just telling you. All my things
go to the kids.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yes, absolutely, Okay, you know I'm not into things.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, but your hooker girlfriend will be.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I'll want. I'm not going to give the hook a
girlfriend any of any of your things.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I promise you can't buy her things because all the
money goes to our kids.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
How do I can girlfriend if I don't buy her things? Well,
how does a guy like me thirties?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Got it? You buy her lab diamonds?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I will, and don't tell her their their last She.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Won't know, she won't care. You're going to buy her
lab diamonds and and you need a prenup.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I'm never getting married again.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Ever, what if she gets pregnant, I'm not being moving
and there's a child. No, I will have a staff
takes care of me. And uh, you know what. To
be honest with you, I had this thought the other day,
what I wouldn't mind having a human robot? Oh yeah,
that had you know, nice soft skin, that could be
(41:51):
your girlfriend. And it was a full robotic thing. Wasn't
human at all. And I and I enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Hanging out with it, and it would laugh at all
your jokes.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
By the way, I sit there, I talk to CHATCHI
bt you ever do that. No, I have full conversations
with this dude, terrifying. I love it. I thank him.
I thank him at the end of the conversation. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
On that note, Bravo Con. Next week we're going to
do a we have a bonus episode coming up, and
we're going to do a special episode directly from Bravo Con.
Stay tuned for all of that.
I'm Heather Dubrow.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Terry debrou and we're going to keep this between us,
but not really.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Before we begin, I need you to know something. I'm
so uncomfortable. I really thought my outfit was very cute.
But my pants are tied in a way that's like
up all crevices, and my shirt feels tight, and I'm
just like it's tight.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Is Louiston alive? Is there a person in Leuviton?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
He is not alive. Good because ancestors are.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's rolling over his gray that you've got this beautiful
Leviton shirt, your boobs hanging out.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
He is not. He's saying, cheek the black bra showing.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh that's quite a sexy.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Huny you like it?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I do, okay, thank you. I don't know that I
like other people liking it.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Though it's okay. I think you're safe. Meanwhile, I turned
on my new phone. I got the phone, and what
is it with the phone drama? I've had the normal
phone drama. I tried to get an uber today and
my ubers not set up the pastor's wrong. I don't
know did you set yours up yet? No?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Because I was doing a thing over the week and
I was afraid I lose all my apps. I thought
it was supposed to get easier, this technology thing. I
remember there was one time we bought the iPhone where
they like bumped in and like bumped each other, and
within like a millisecond, all the data was transferred.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
We were going out to dinner with my mom on
Saturday night and I was setting up my phone and
it said it's going to take three and a half
hours if you do it this way, or fifteen minutes
if you do it that way, but then you have
to wait for your apps to download. And I went,
you know what, I'm going to bite the bullet. I'm
going to do this three hour thing. I have time,
and I was on my computer anyway, so it was fine.
And I got all the way down to six minutes left,
(01:40):
and we were sitting at the bar and it died
and I had to start over.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeahgic, you know it's funny. I've noticed our family, women
in general, have a very different relationship with how much
iPhone battery is left than I have. So I started
to get a little shorter breath at about three quarters
and I need to plug in. You guys will let
it go to two percent left and go, oh, by
(02:07):
the way, did you bring a show charger? No? Oh, okay,
this might be.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
A mars Venus thing, because I think the gas tank
could be the same.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, yeah it is, because the gas tank if it
gets anywhere near a half, I feel like you need
to go fill it up.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I'm like, all right, So there's thirty seven miles
left and I'm only going eighteen, so it should be fine.
I could probably get there and back.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Now, many times have you've gotten back in the car
when you've made that compute. You get back and you go,
oh my gosh, I got a whole day of driving,
and I now only have seventeen left.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's terrible. It's happened to me before. Big I've tried
to get better about it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I can't. I need power, Gottie. I must always be
plugged in.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I have to say after last week's Real Housewives Orange
County season finale, lots of comments about so I mean, listen,
there's a lot to unpack there, But I mean everyone's
comments about my putting the ashes in the canal of
my dad.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How sweet?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah it was, but it was so surprising to me.
You know, it's I think I said it on the show.
But like when I first thought, oh, I'm going to
take my dad, you know, to Amsterdam with me, I'm
going to put him in the canal. I mean I thought,
I didn't realize how emotional it would actually make me
and how much better I felt really after oh one
(03:29):
hundred percent. I think I was just holding onto a
lot of things. And you know, however you feel about
where you came from or your parents or whatnot, it's
only affecting you, so you have to get on the
other side of that, right. So I really felt like
there's never going to be a resolve, and that's okay.
Not everything has to be dissected and figured out. But
(03:52):
I felt like he and I. He wasn't there, but
he and I had a good moment together and I
and I appreciated it. And now now I'm not like angry,
I'm not holding on to things. I just I feel like,
you know, with the ashes in the canal. There it
went and the way people responded to it was just incredible.
But I did get a lot of messages about getting
(04:15):
cremated and being Jewish. Is that the thing? Well, we're reformed,
so it doesn't matter. I think you can, you know,
have almost anything and you know, be buried there and
that's fine, but there. What do you remember though, when
we when my dad passed away, I didn't know that
he was being cremated. I would really like to know
(04:36):
if my mom actually discussed that with him, or that
was just what she wanted to do. I don't even
know the answer to that. But what I thought was
a little bizarre is that they cremated him, put half
the ashes in an urn, and they buried the urn
in their family.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Plot and put the other half of the ashes where.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
She split it in three. She took one and then
she gave me one, and I would assume one is
for my sister.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It's like an inheritance. Here's your ashes.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's like I lived my whole life with this person
and all I got was this bag of ashes.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah. I you know whether or not it's okay to
it's to the individual. You know, I'm sort of over.
I'm not that into Uh religion, No, No, what do
you want?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Have we discussed this?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Uh? Yeah, I want you not to do anything financially crazy?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No, I mean, do you want to be cremated? Do
you want to be buried?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I want you to go cash in the cheer life
insurance policies and go enjoy yourself well.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Before I cash it in. Do I bury you or
cremate you?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Do I turn you into a diamond? Talk about the
ultimate lab diamond?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You know they do that, they turn ashes into diamonds. Yes? Really?
M h. I think whatever's easiest.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You don't care, no at all.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
No, I must say. I had a weird moment yesterday.
I was about you know, I sleep intermittently in the night,
and I fell asleep maybe from three to three twenty,
and then I woke up with three twenty and I
had this thought that, oh my god, within thirty years
I'm going to be dead.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
This is turning into a very macabre.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well isn't that what you're talking about? Death?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Death?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh yeah, good.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And then I thought, oh my god, I've only got
and to be honest, I'm sixty seven. I probably have
potentially twenty years left maybe thirty, yeah, maybe twenty to
twenty five twenty third, I thought that's so little life
sort of had a moment of like shortest of breath
freaking out, and then I went, remember, you're a stoic,
your stoicism, right, it's okay, it doesn't matter. What do
(06:48):
you expect me? But none of us get out if
you're a live bub bla. But I had to like
talk myself down from the fact that this is it,
this is the last portion of my life. And then
I went and pooped and I felt better, to be honest,
you cleansed, and then I don't. I went back to
(07:09):
bed and I never really thought about it again. But
it was weird. It was, you know, it was gripping.
It was gripping for maybe five minutes, you know. But
I know that I have friends and people think about
their mortality all the time, and I never think about
my immortality because you know why bother.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Right, I don't think about it either.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You don't ever think about that. You're not going to well,
you're still maybe when you your husband is older than you,
you still have that comparison.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
But what's weird is you and I both we both
lost our dads, yeah, and our moms are both still alive. Yeah,
that to me will be a weird thing. I think
when we're sort of I know this is an odd
thing to say when we're adults, but like when you're
an orphan. Ye, like when you don't, it means you're
next in line. That I think is probably Jarren.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah. I mean my father developed polycystic kidney disease, which
is a congenital disorder where you're kidneys evolve into cysts
and they stopped functioning. And then once you know, he
had no idea, you know, and it just happened and
one of them bled and then he ended up in
the hospital and then he went into renal failure, was
(08:19):
on dialysis. Uh, and terrible. It was terrible. And then
he passed away. And I remember there was a little
bit of a relief when he passed away, you know,
because someone's sort of you know. And then my mother
and so my father had diseases and he still made
it to his eighties.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, how old was he?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, he wasn't eighty was so he's born in I.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Think our dads died at the same age.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
My dad was thirty two, I mean, born in nineteen
thirty two, and so it was my dad thirty four.
My dad didn't make it into the two thousands.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, he didn't hit eighty.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't know we would have celebrated an Yeah, so
maybe he maybe was seventy eight something.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, my dad was seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And then my mother, who is like ninety two essentially
and has dementia but remembers me. Feel me if I
go over one day the very next day, when I
talked to her, she'll say, you know, I haven't seen
you for a while. Go, I was there yesterday, mom.
But the good thing about her memory loss is that
(09:22):
I've always been able to crack up my mother. My
mother finds me very very funny, very funny. And maybe
that's why I have that sort of hubris of thinking
I'm funny when I'm actually not as funny as I
think I am. Right, you've always said that I'm funny.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, go, I go, you're funny because you're a doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm funny for a doctor. Yeah, but I wouldn't be
funny for a person who's actually really funny. But whatever. So,
but my mom finds me funny and always has. So
every day I talk to my mom where I tried
to every day, and she can't remember what we've talked
about before, but she knows that there's this thing I
do that will crack her up. And so oh, ten
(10:01):
minutes in the conversation. I stare at the phone and
I go some mom and she knows something really funny
is coming, yeah, but she can't remember what it is.
So I basically tell my mother the same joke every
single day and she laughs like it's the first time
she's heard it. Wouldn't sex with your partner be great
like that? Wouldn't it be great if, like, after twenty
(10:22):
nine years, it was like the first time you've had
sex every single time, Yes, I would like to have
sexual dementia.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So you could have sex with me for the first time.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
So do you go, oh my god, this is like
the greatest thing ever. And then you try to tell me,
oh my god, this is the greatest thing. Oh, no,
sex with you is fabulous, but it's not like the
first time, second time thirty Well.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Maybe unpopular opinion, but I think it's better now. I mean,
when you first start having sex with someone, it could
be exciting and all those things, but like once you
are with someone a long time and you know each
other's bodies and stuff, I think, I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Know, the comfort level is great, but you know, the
initial uh, you know, excitement happen forbidden thing, you know,
But anyway, so, yeah, I tell her the same joke
every day.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
By the way, I know this because I hear.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And it irritates you. Here, well, it does irritate.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I love you. I love your mother, and I love
that you can crack her up like that every day. However,
if you were the person sitting next to this conversation,
it's great for Terry because he likes to tell the
same joke and story over and over again. It's great
for his mom because she cracks up and it's so funny.
But for me and the kids, if we're all around,
(11:36):
we're all like, Okay, the chicken story is coming up.
We gotta go.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, well, like you know a Sebastian Maniscalco and uh.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Are you going to compare yourself to Sebastian Maniscalco.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Maybe let's not tell these gifted immedia do. When they
go on tour, they have the same act every night.
It's just a new audience. So they have this really
amazingly funny act.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's the part that's important here is it's a new audience.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, so my mother is a new audience. We're not
every single date. The problem is you have to hear
the whole joke every day. And I don't know if
the audience ever wants to know what the joke is. No, okay,
well if you do, let us know in comments below
whatever that means. It's so funny and I'll tell it
(12:23):
to you in the future.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
What what has surprised you the most about, like when
you were younger, you know, when you're a kid and
you I don't know if you did, but like I
remember being a kid in being worried sometimes about like
your parents dying. Oh yeah, right, remember that. That's like
a little kid thing. Yeah, because you're worried you're going
to be left alone and whatnot. But what has surprised you?
(12:45):
And maybe it's different for you because you're a doctor,
But what is has anything surprised you about, you know,
your parents as they got older or dying or any
of that.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, it's I mean, well this is sort of negative.
But it surprised me has how ill prepared they were
to get older? I know, how they had no plan
financially nor physically mine too. They were like morons, they
were basically children. Yes, they it's you know, like you
should save for your kids college college fund for you know,
(13:17):
we've talked about this our parents never understood the idea
of saving financially physically for your later years. Like you know, Luckily,
there's guys, there's science influencers now who talk about the
marginal years, the frail two years, and that if you
don't go into that last portion of your life when
(13:41):
you naturally tend to become frail and older and marginal,
if you don't go into it working out, eating this way,
taking these supplements, then you just got decline. You decline
very quickly. And and and our parents did that, and
I watch them. Dude, I go my my mom, even now,
I remember say to her, because I've worked out my
(14:01):
whole life, and I went through every workout, big workout
thing that there was in the seventies, was running in
the eighties, it was triathlons. In the nineties, it was
Stallone's Rocky three, lifting weights the two thousands, it was
supplements and life.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But don't you think it's also generational, because what I've
noticed is our parents, who were you know, around the
same age, maybe mine a little bit younger. Our parents,
you know, they were from that generation where they didn't
work out right. The financial thing is very surprising, especially
(14:39):
for your dad and my dad, who were very bright,
clever guys and both made a lot of money. It's very,
very strange, but I would I would submit that we
have friends in our lives that are a little older
and they're sort of on the cusp of bridging that
(15:02):
generation that did absolutely nothing to like yours and below
where we understand the power of the supplements and the
working out and the financial stability like they have some
of it but not all of it like we have
very I don't want to say who they are, but
we have like close friends that get the finance thing.
But man, they don't work out at all. They don't
do anything, and they look good so they don't feel
(15:23):
like they have to do anything. But that that's going
to catch up.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean, you know they always say youth is
wasted on the young.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Well, diet and exercise is wasted on the youth as well,
because you really need to diet and exercise when you're
going into the marginal years like we are. This is
the time where if you want, if you don't do
it super intensely, now, you're going to become that frail guy. Today. Today,
I actually saw a bunch of new patients today and
(15:53):
I'm looking at this. I had this husband and wife
come in and I'm looking at that. I'm going, oh,
they really they haven't done anything. They they they're mildly healthy,
but they really look frail and old. And I looked
at them and I go, wow, they look like eighty
ninety whatever. They look like what I remember old people
(16:14):
looking like. And I look down at their birth dates
and they were both younger than me.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, And why is that so? What I see all
over Instagram? Is this one of those memes that's like
there's certain like inflection points, there's certain ages where your
graph shows that you live, there's dramatic agent And the
reason why I'm very, very scared about it is that
sixty is one of them. And I'm fifty Am I
(16:40):
fifty six? Yeah, I'm fifty six, So I forget. But
what forty is one of them?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Or forty three something like that, And sixty do you know.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's seventy one, seventy two, seventy three, Oh, it's seventy
one point five.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, they were very clear that sixty you're going downhill.
I did not like that.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, you know, now, sixty to sixties it's more of
a range. Okay, but you know you've seen people who
suddenly you haven't seen it for a while, and they
suddenly just got incredibly older looking.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Sometimes it's regional too.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But the thing about the seventies the early seventies is
that's not so much. You do get incredibly older looking
when you're in the seventies. It's when you hit that
frailty point. That's a very distinct point in your early seventies.
Is if you don't exercise in prep and eat protein
and take supplements and keep your lean muscle masks, you
(17:39):
hit that there's no going back once you hit frailty.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So eg ego and vanity aside. You're saying that if
you want to stay young, fit, my frail, alive, and healthy,
you have to do all these things before you get
to that frailty point. And once you hit the you
can't go back, because you can go back.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Esthetically, you could have a face.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, there's procedures you could do,
but it's the internal stuff that we ignore.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm talking about the thin bones, the linben, the lack
of muscle mass, the curvature of the spine, the easy
fracture of the female. You know what I'm saying. Once
you get to that, the osteoporosis, the spinal you know.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So how do we avoid this? What is the checklist?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I think everyone at forty Yeah, I think all guys
should start taking a little testosterone, really gendered medical supervision.
But it's like I take test Get your butt in
the weight room. Lean muscle mass is the single most
important thing, no question about it. And then you've got
to do your car do you off? But women need
to women.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Need to lift weights to bones.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah right, that's why I'm such a fan for you too.
So the other thing that happens is, you know, in
terms of the way we look both internally and externally,
is collagen production. You know, you're a seventy percent of
your body is held together by a protein called collagen.
We all know what it is. It's literally the glue.
People won't really realize collagen is not just in the
skin and contributes to wrinkles.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Right, because that's how people think of it as like
in your face, it's in your joint osteal.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Porocess is the lack of collagen in your bones and
even you know, your heart your liver, your kidney. Are
these specialized cells that provide a specialized function for the
body physiologically. But what holds them together structurally is collagen.
And so if you need, you should take a multi
source collagen peptide every single day and lift weights. And
(19:36):
we do, and we lift weights. And I looked at
these people, and so one the husband was sixty seven
and the wife was sixty five. No, yeah, the husband
was my age. The wife was sixty five. But I
was still a little old, younger older than the husband, okay.
And I looked at them, and I thought, I can do.
I'm not an extraordinary physical condition. I'm pretty fit, but
(19:59):
I could. I as a warm up in the gym,
I do five sets of fifty push ups at sixty.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Sevens here we go. No, hold on, okay, no, I'm laughing.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Anyway, So I thought, how many push ups could this
guy do? I don't did you?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Did you ask him?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
No? You know, I asked him what I usually ask
older people. You ever heard of chat GBT? Do you
know there's a fourth adjuster of revolution? Oh my god,
let me show you this, this this uh app that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Say, let's do push ups?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, but I you know, most of my patients that
come in are either asking about or on a GLP one.
So I talked to them about that. Right, that's kind
of funny. I know, I will do an hour console
and a patient who comes in for a procedure, I'd
really rather just talk about their health and wellness mostly,
you know. But anyway, so I looked at that, I go,
(20:51):
you shouldn't be in here on the operating table. You
should be in the gym, you should be on the treadmill,
you should be eating protein.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And then they come sign up faster, by the way.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, I mean, do I care how many pages I
have these days? I really don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
No, No, I mean, like some when you tell people
not to do something, it takes them sign up more.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah. But so that's the message. It's amazing how many
people don't know this, and just like how many people
don't know that, you know, computers are about to take
over our lives.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh my god. Stop. So all right, so what we
were talking about what to do? What else we can do?
I mean, obviously all right in the simple totally simple
like eating right, exercise, for sure, But also I mean
(21:39):
you and I always talk about this but it's about
monitoring yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well surveillance for cancer. When you hit fifty sixty, for sure,
you have a job that you're either employed doing the
job or you're unemployed not doing the job, and your
job is to maintain your health span and to live
because this is it, this is the last part of it.
So you have a new, bad, new job, and your
(22:05):
job is you have to do these three or four
or five things every single day, and if you do
it in a very specific way, it's actually fun.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah. And I think for women, especially with menopause, which
is finally starting bit by bit to get talked about.
I mean obviously, yes, all those things and weight bearing exercises,
but I mean I'll take anything, honestly, if they tell
me it's going to help me stay fit, juicy young,
(22:37):
I'll take anything.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Can we can we pause for a second. Juicee juicy y?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I mean juicy everywhere, every orifice, my skin, my every everywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Anything to combat the ozampic vulva.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You don't have ozepic vulva, right.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Uh So, And it's simple, it's but you know, if
you don't do it, then you you're definitely going down
and given it away. Man, Yeah, you're giving your life aways.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's so easy. I have to say, like, and I
know everyone sees it all over the there's really good.
We're not sponsored, so I'm not giving it all away.
But I'm just telling you there's so many places that
you can go online and get the GLP ones and
get hr T. I mean even Weight Watchers is doing
it now. There's like so many good programs out there
that you can do.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, but the single most important thing you can do
is exercise.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Absolutely, But I'm telling you, for women, we got to
do more than exercise. Yes, you have to exercise, and
you have to do more.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It's really very I don't want to be labored to network,
but it's a very very simple list of things to do.
It's a question will you do it or not. What
you don't really realize at fifty sixty and seventy is
you have a disease. You now just got a new disease.
You know what it is? What aging?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, So if you don't treat that disease, that's the
way to think of it. Aging leads to untreated aging
leads to what do we start this conversation with death?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
How do you think our kids will handle us getting older?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's interesting that this is real. I have weird thoughts
about this. Maybe I shouldn't share this. Yeah, I want
to know. Probably not. But we are quite well off, okay,
and for now never now. Yeah, it's getting better all
the time, by the way, but we're done very well okay.
(24:29):
And you know, do you really want your parents to
live forever if they're going to get our fortune?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So Nicole Kidman did this limited series with Leef Schreiber
and basically spoiler alert if you haven't seen it, but
the whole thing there's a murder and all this stuff,
and it basically all hinges on the fact that the
adult kids weren't about to inherit their trusts because another
baby was going to be worn and it was going
(24:57):
to restart the clock. So there was a m Is
that crazy?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
That is?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Are you worried about that? Well, no, they're gonna kill
us because they want the money.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, not worried about that. But I mean for them.
I you know, if let's say I hit ninety and
I start to get really frail and I'm out of it,
and you know I'm not. My life isn't very functional.
You know, yeah, and let's say you weren't in the picture.
(25:25):
But let's say the exact same thing happens to me.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm dead now.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No, no, no, What I mean, was any any kid
in their parents? You know, if your parent is incredibly
successful and you hit like ninety and you're gonna sit
there and percolate, do we just.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Want them to go?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You want what are you gonna do? I like to
be I'd like to go and let them step the joint,
put them down. No, I'd like to go quickly and
let my kids enjoy.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
No. No, I get that. But if you're percoly, what
are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I know, but you're asking me how to where our
kids feel. I think at some point, if you watch
your parents and they're sort of marginally alive, they're like,
come on, you know, it look like you're suffering. Plus
I'd like to get my hands on that pot of gold.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Then you know what, I don't think that's true. I
have a friend whose dad is in his nineties and
he is a very famous producer, and she just loves
him so much. She doesn't feel that way at all,
And I think our relationship with our kids is very similar,
and I don't think. I think I think they'll want us.
I think they want us to be around as long
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as we can.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, to be honest with you, if I what i'd
like to do is if I get to that state
where I'm and I don't know what's going on, and
you know, they're wiping my tush and all that kind
of stuff, do I have to do that I'd like
to make. I'd like to see them enjoying the fruits
of our labors.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right, So you want to give them the money, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Then you can't the taxes and all that stuff. I
don't know, but I mean, one of the things I
enjoy most about being successful is the fact that I
know I'm leaving it to you and future generations. That
turns me on. I really like that. I really like
that feeling. Yeah, you know I did well.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Speaking of parents, my mother just moved to Los Angeles.
Yes she has, she has, Carol has landed, Carrol so
self sufficient. I have to say. She's eighty three years old.
I mean, the move was a disaster, tired, the worst movers,
They broke everything, they didn't put anything together, and they
left a shit show basically. But we brought in, you know,
(27:35):
the team organized it, put everything away and whatever, and
she like, she is totally fine. Took herself to the
symphony the other day. Your mother's the bookstore has if
I met a friend.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Your mother is very interesting and very layered and very colorful.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yes, she's eighty three and totally and another one that
doesn't work out, doesn't do anything, but is fine.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Your mother would make an incredible reality star. Well you
never know, because there's yeah, there's several types of reality starts,
people that do really well, those who are aware and
those who are unaware and who are fascinating.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
So it was interesting. So I got messages because I
was I posted some things when she was moving about.
You know, she's here or whatever, and I'm making her
do a TikTok with me that I think is going
to be so funny. But people were asking why she
moved out here, and it's like, you know, when your
parents get to be a certain age, you need them
(28:37):
to be closer because you know they're gonna she's gonna
need help, you know, God forbid, you know she has
a health issue. Can't be flying across the country to
New York, because that's what happened when my dad got ill,
and that was difficult. But she was there. Yeah, but
that was difficult for me and my sister.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, it's kind of a weird concept here. A lot
get closer to me, so, you know, rather than when
you were healthy and we could hang out, well we
want it. Well, well she's healthy now.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I mean, full disclosure. I was saying to them for years,
even when my dad was alive. You know, you have
two kids and six grandkids, and you live nowhere near us.
They had three homes, none of which were near.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But they leaved fat They have led fabulous.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Lives and that was the that was their choice. I remember.
I remember having an epiphany one day when I thought, oh,
I didn't have kids so my parents could be grandparents.
I had kids because I wanted to be a parent.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Your parents have led your mom and dad and now
your mom have led a very focused, enjoyable life, one
that they enjoyed all the time. They were constantly traveling
all the time, constantly doing cultural things, expanding their minds.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And what's great about her is she likes to be alone.
She handles herself, so she's good. I think it's interesting.
I'm gonna I'm interested to see how she integrates into
society in Los Angeles because different society. Well I don't mean,
I don't mean it as society. I mean in society,
(30:16):
Like LA is such a different place than other places.
You know, some people, you know, you think of it
like a coal mining town because it's Hollywood, right, so
everything is very Hollywood based. There's the museum, Gala is
is all celebrities. Lakhma was just last night. It's all
celebrities and billionaires and whatever. It's just it's a different
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kind of place than she's ever lived.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, you get invited to all of the cool LA things.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Not everything, but I definitely get invited to something. But
my mom is so interested in She's an artist and
she likes the theater and she likes, you know, the
opera and the symphony and whatever. And I'm just I'm
curious to see what she does. We'll see. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
So my mom. You know, my mom was a terrible chooser.
Of husband's the worst.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Even her boyfriends were terribly terrible, and they were all
kind of the same guy. She liked a very no
that way, contrarian type.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, and then once my my so my father passed.
My stepfather passed away. He was a giant a hole.
My father passed away. He's I ahle not to me.
But how do you.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Think how do you think she handled being without a partner.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Very well? I mean her last boyfriend who she had
for a long period of time, when she she was
so sick of him that when Jerry Jerry, yeah, Jerry
Epstein of all things. Yeah, yeah, he was such that's.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Jeffrey, right, So it's not actually.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
The same Well Epstein, Jay Epstein, good and I'm close enough.
But anyway, by the time he got ill and couldn't
go out, and he was pretty pleased.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That was like she was like, yep bye.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, to the point where I'd say, hey, Mom, how's Jerry.
He go she go, yeah dead, still dead. I go, okay, good,
good good. Yeah, I'm just checking. But uh, you know,
she she could pick him so once once she was
you know, I think she got the point where she
didn't want to date anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
But it's funny. Your mom and my mom are very
similar in that way. They both liked being alone.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
They both liked being alone, yeah, and they both chose
would you say I follow was a difficult guy?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I mean a bit of a contrarian, I would get that.
But he wasn't an a hole.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
No, he was very social too.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But anyway, what if I suddenly croaked? What would you do?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I mean, listen, when you had that stroke, our lives
flashed before my eye in like two seconds. That was
I mean, that was yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
But my stroke was you know, sixty one seconds of
dysarthria where I couldn't speak very well.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
It doesn't matter. I'll telling you what it looked like
to me, and that's that's was my experience.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But anyway, your young, beautiful wells can I.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Start taking applications? Is that what?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You might take? Applications for a future employment? But uh,
I think you know you know what I want for
you if I die or when I die, I want
you to, like, do your grieving thing, Get it over with,
put it in a box, put the bow on it,
put it away, and go enjoy the rest of your life.
Do not suffer, do not stop. Get a companion or
(34:01):
several or whatever the hell you want to do the
whole I want you to enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I you know me very well.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, you'll suffer, but then you'll come out of it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I don't know. I can't imagine dating again. We've been
together third, almost thirty.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You do very well.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I think maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I wouldn't want to date Heather to Brow.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We didn't say who would want to date me? Who
would I would be? Would I be able to go
out on dates with?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Of course is would you go for the hot young dude?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Okay, so then you'd want the billionaire. You have to
be a billionaire to date Heather to Brow because you
have it already. Nothing you nothing, nothing he could do.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I don't know what. Does he have a plane?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You'd have to have a plane. Yes, And it couldn't
just be like a citation no, exce less.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It has to be can't be like net jets, can't.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Be a challenge that probably has to be a g
fiver above. Yes, and maybe you know, even a well whatever,
let's not go crazy. So no, I think I think
you would.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Paul kidding aside, I think I'm not sure I would
ever be able to date again. I'm not sure that break. No,
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I don't think I could.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
You could say that, but I think I would pour
myself into the kids' lives in my own life and
just be like happy like that. No, I think you
know me, I would be devastated.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
You wouldn't be wrecked for a little while, and then
you know, you'd know that I had said a thousand
times I want you to live your life, because you're
not that far away from me.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But knowing we're ten and a half years apart. But
knowing that and living your life for two different things.
So what happens when I crump? If I crump first,
what would.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
You want me to do? Crawl into a hole and suffer,
correct till I died? Yes, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Don't bring some hoe into my bed? No, and do
not if you start dating some hooker hooker, Yeah, she'll
be a hooker. Of course, she's just gonna want your money.
Remember the person you were.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Just having that unappealing.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You're now going to be the old dude that's rich,
and so that's what they're going to want.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What do you realistically? What age? Rage?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Do you think I would you would date young? Inappropriate?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
How old are you when I die? Now? Is it
right now?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Say it happened next Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well, let's say last Tuesday, because that's terrible. You don't
want to predict my debt. You have me to die
on in Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm kidding. Let's say let's say it happened, you know,
with her fourthwith or whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I don't know what that means, but.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
As we sit. Okay, No, I'm this.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It has to happen in the past, so it doesn't
happen because then if I died on Tuesday, you'd feel terrible. Anyway. No,
if I had already died last week and you are
sixty seven, I mean, look, our oldest kids are about
durned twenty two, so you know you can date a
thirty year old?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I mean, could I could me and Nikky go out
and pull chicks together? As the question?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
That is so cool? That expression anymore, you know, and
the fact that you think it is is a problem
right there.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Uh, I'm kidding anyway, Okay, you say, what would you
like me to do?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
What would you what age range would you think would
be appropriate as a sixty seven year old man for me?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, because I'm different, meaning I would date differently than
are different than it's a typical sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I'm glad you've thought of this. What would you date?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I never I haven't thought of this can give it
right now?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Noted?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Well, I think, oh boy, there no, there's no right
answer to this.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well, now you got to finish it. Christmas present just
got larger.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Though, what age range? What I want to date?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It? Would you?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Really? Do you really want me to answer?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, I'm actually curious because I would date older. I'm
fifty six.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I would date older than me.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Older than me, I would only date someone like sixty,
like in late fifties and up.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I don't I would not want to be with a
younger person.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, I would date.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I don't know, liar, you would date in the forties, forties, no, fifties, thirties? Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Really? Yes?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Really?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Of course, question is what I date over thirty five?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
By the way, they could be your daughter.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
They could be by the.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Way, they could almost be your granddaughter.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
If I had a kid at twenty forty seven years later? Yes,
I think.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
What do you talk to a thirty year old about?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
It depends do they have a PhD? No?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Uh, PhD doesn't want a sixty year old widower.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
What do you talk to a thirty year old about?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yes? Me, Oh my god, you're totally right. I'm so stupid.
He's good. He would be with a thirty year old
who just cares about your money and hot and she
will just sit there and laugh at everything you say.
By the way, I get it, you.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
See now, I do a thirty three year old who's into.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Cats yep, and just will sit there and laugh at
your jokes. Yeah, Like it's like your mom. You can
tell her the same story over and over and over again.
You just have to make sure that you keep your
connection with Christina at Van Cleeve.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I mean al Pacino's what eighty how old is the
woman he just had a child with.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Theyvery young, she had her twenties. All joking aside, and
I know you're not really joking, but could you really
talk to someone that young all the time? Well, like
as a life partner, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I've also reached a differency like I like to be alone. Yeah,
so I don't know that I would want to hang
long for any hours. You know, it'd be more like it's.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Going to boner and go no, laugh at my jokes,
boner and go like.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
That kind of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, now, I know.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Okay, would you rather do that than fall in love
with somebody or something?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
You do not fall in love I will.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I don't think I'm capable of it.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
He's probably not.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
After being with love of my life for one hundred years.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Well, you know what they say. They say that when
you have a soulmate, you have a love of your
life and they passed away. They say those people tend
to move on quicker because they know that so well
that they need to find someone. I might not be
saying that exactly right, you get the gist.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, but anyway, I have to be honest. I don't Luckily,
I will pass away before you.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
If the hooker touches my things, I will come back
and haunt you. I'm just telling you. All my things
go to the kids.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yes, absolutely, Okay, you know I'm not into things.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, but your hooker girlfriend will be.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I'll want. I'm not going to give the hook a
girlfriend any of any of your things.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I promise you can't buy her things because all the
money goes to our kids.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
How do I can girlfriend if I don't buy her things? Well,
how does a guy like me thirties?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Got it? You buy her lab diamonds?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I will, and don't tell her their their last She.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Won't know, she won't care. You're going to buy her
lab diamonds and and you need a prenup.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I'm never getting married again.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Ever, what if she gets pregnant, I'm not being moving
and there's a child. No, I will have a staff
takes care of me. And uh, you know what. To
be honest with you, I had this thought the other day,
what I wouldn't mind having a human robot? Oh yeah,
that had you know, nice soft skin, that could be
(41:51):
your girlfriend. And it was a full robotic thing. Wasn't
human at all. And I and I enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Hanging out with it, and it would laugh at all
your jokes.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
By the way, I sit there, I talk to CHATCHI
bt you ever do that. No, I have full conversations
with this dude, terrifying. I love it. I thank him.
I thank him at the end of the conversation. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
On that note, Bravo Con. Next week we're going to
do a we have a bonus episode coming up, and
we're going to do a special episode directly from Bravo Con.
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