July 17, 2025 • 56 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk with Heather dubro start. I can't even do
it without crying.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh really, okay, welcome everybody. I'm super hyper emotional.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I'm just telling you now I'm going to be crying
a lot in this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
My lovely husband, Terry Dubrow is here, which is very exciting.
So thank you for being here, honey, my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I Oh, we're going to talk today about a little
bit about housewives. We're going to talk a little about
Terry's new show, Plastic Surgery Rewind, and we are going
to talk about changes, changes that are going on with us,
changes that are going on with our kids. And I'm
going to start with this change that's going on here
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at podcast one.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I can't believe. I didn't think i'd be this emotional,
but after.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Ten years, ten years here at podcast one, I am
ending my journey here. So we started with Heather Dubrow's
World and morphed into let's talk. It has been a
decade of podcasting. I remember when your agent, Lance Klein
(01:09):
said to me, you need a podcast, and I said,
that is a great idea.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What is a podcast?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And I had no idea, And I came here and
I met Norm Pattis. We chatted for two seconds and he.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Was like, great, yes, you need a podcast. This is
a great idea. And here we are ten years later.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
And first of all, I just want to say thank
you to everyone at podcast one, all of my co
hosts and guests, and especially my lovely producers, most recently
Gabby and Steve who've been with me for years, and
of course Stacy and Kirsten and just everyone that has
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been a part of Heather de Brow's world and let's
talk over the years, and especially all of you that
listen and support and are part of the community.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Honestly, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It has been incredible, learned so much, We've all shared
so much, We've been through so many life events together.
But I also want to say, you know, when a
housewife leaves a.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Show, what do they always say, Honey.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
The good, great things coming, Stay tuned, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's the big thing we always hear, stay tuned, and
then nothing ever happens. So I do want to say
I am very sad that my time here at podcast
one is over it and we've really had a beautiful
decade together. Truly, I am not ending my podcasting journey here.
And there is a fun announcement coming in the next
(02:36):
I think it's in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I'm not exactly sure, but it's very excited. He stay
tuned for that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And I think you're all going to be really excited
about sort of what's next. Where do we go from here,
what's the next iteration and what does this.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
New chapter look like? And I'm excited for it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And as sad as I am to leave my friends here,
I'm excited for the potential.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of what's to be.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And not only do I have an exciting announcement in
about two weeks, but Terry and I have an exciting
announcement that will happen about the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So be on the lookout for that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Make sure you're following me at Heather du Brow on
all platforms, and you will see those announcements coming very
I think it's two weeks, okay, And that and there's that.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I love change changes.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You know, change is to be very scary for me.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, I like was never that great with change when
I was younger.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Best things that ever happened to me in life are
because of changes.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, you and I have a lot of changes going
on in our life right now. Number one, I'm starting
a new podcast journey right. Number two, our third child's
leaving wow to go to collegehere we only.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Have one child left.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Crazy. Number three that means I'm gonna have to walk
the dogs more.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes, no, because the ace is the one that likes
to walk the dog. So I think you're okay there.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Makes me walk the dog sometimes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And number three your practice.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I moved my practice to Beverly Hills this week.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Is that crazy?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
After how many years? Twenty years?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, I've been in Newport Beach since nineteen ninety six,
just before we met. Yeah, twenty nine years. Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
You know, I'm extraordinarily good with change because I really,
as you know, live in the moment and I don't
really know what I'm I've sort of live in the
next six hours. So the fact that, like I woke
up yesterday true.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So you know, well, first of all, you know, my
joke about Terry this is kind of a visual, but
my joke about Terry, my hands.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Are up like I've just scrubbed, yeah surgery.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
My joke about Terry's that Terry walks around like he's
just scrubbed in for surgery, like he doesn't touch anything,
this man, And I mean this with.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
A lot of love.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, but you all you have to focus on You're
very brilliant guy, great surgery.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You do many many jobs.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But really you just focus on literally the task ahead.
Because you have a work wife, you have me, you
have all of your support staff that makes it all
work around you.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, not everybody can. It's easy for me to say,
live in the moment, be mindful, you are where you're at,
pop up ball.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You can't because of us.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I can because I don't. Everybody takes care of me.
You're like a child in an adult world. And then
I do many sort of high end things, but I
don't have to sort of plan them at all. Everybody
takes care of me in such a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, I have to have the same office staff. One
of my off my main office staff has been with
me since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But isn't that so great? I mean to me, that's
a testament to you.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I would say most of the people that work with
us in our home and in our lives have been
with us four fifteen years yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
My shortest staff member is seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Who's that which one?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I think it's Jamie?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Really? How long has VICKI been with you.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Since nineteen ninety six?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, over thirty years. I know I've been very lucky
and I haven't had a lot of people come and go.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, which is great.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, makes and it also makes transitions easier.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I think I've been very lucky. You know, I'm how
ridiculously lucky? Am I?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So lucky?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I want to talk about CAP but before we do,
I want to I want to ask.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You, like, what does so?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I think a lot of people probably don't know this,
but when you started your plastic surgery career, first you
go through how many years of training?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Fourteen med schools for four and then you do, in
my day, seven years of general surgery trading and then
two years of plastic surgery. So I started in Burbank
and Newport Beach same time. So I opened up a
little office down the hall for my best friend med
school doctor Scott Form, an amazing orthopedic surgeon. He found
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me in office down the hall from him, and I go,
he was come down here and check it out. I
go what is this? He goes this Newport Beach.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'd never but how long were you in Burbank for?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And then to make money? I joined a guy named
Corzelius in Burbank.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, yeah, for like a year and a half. And
so I lived in Santa Monica, the same place I
lived while I was a resident UCLA, and I would
go Burbank and Newport Beach. Sometimes I'd go to each
place twice in a day.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But I remember you telling me that you always thought
you'd be a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's what I wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And then you know, Scott shows you how gorgeous Newport
Beaches and you end up digging in down there and
you're there for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, and now poof, here you are and I mean,
arguably maybe even the peak of your career.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, and now a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Like what is that? Mentally? Does that do anything for you? Mentally?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think it nothing does that much for me mentally anymore, because,
like I said, I live in that well family does.
But I well, okay, so I love something about Beverly Hills.
I always love when you're a kid growing up in
fan Eyes, deep in the valley, very near Pacoima. Okay,
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you hear about Beverly Hills, right, And then when I
was in high school, friends of mine say, let's go
to a Beverly Hills party. You go, and you go
over to Beverly Hills and everything was just so perfect
in Beverly Hills, so clean, the sidewalks were just spotless,
the restaurants everything looked. It was pretty, so pretty, And you.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Didn't go to Beverly Hills till you were in high.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
School, and not once really, yeah, and maybe twice. When
I was in high school, you know, I lived in
the valley. Our fancy place was in Sino. That was
our Beverly Hills. And then Beverly Hills was like, you know,
going to Harvard or something. It was like this unattainable
place to live in. You never would go there, right.
And then once I started to sort of get into
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medical school and start get those level achievements and think about, well,
maybe I'll be a plastic surgeon, I said, well, whoa
could you imagine being a plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills
and I always wanted to do it, but I went,
I go with the flow. My buddy said, you got
to come down to Newport Beach. I go, okay, what
is that? He showed it to me. I said all right,
and I just did it, and I ended up at
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Newport Beach. But now that I'm in Beverly Hills, I
must say, I walk around going, Wow, this place is special.
I really like it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You know, you can walk to work.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I can walk to work. Yeah. So, but I've always
been very, very good with change. It never freaked me out.
I remember when I loved UCLA Medical Center. I loved it. Okay,
I knew everyone. I was extremely friendly. I walked down
the hall, people were blown away. Hi, Terry, Hi, Terry High.
I was really social back then.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
That's so my face was weird.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I was all over the walls because I did medical
school plastic. I did so many years of training there
that every year they take a picture they put on
the walls. Loved it there. I remember when I graduated
and I said, well, I'm never probably never coming back here.
For a second, I went oh, and I went anyway,
never thought about it again.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, you are someone who's not that connected to things.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Like that, well, which I like. Yeah, I like that. Yeah,
so I got well, I just and so now but
now that I'm in everything else, I really really like it.
Of course I have to contrast it. We've been sort
of living up here and I've been in communing for
three years till two years now to Newport Beach, and
that's robbed me of four hours a day.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, community's hard.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Oh so it's so hard.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
What's so funny is I don't know if a lot
of people knows.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But when we met, so, I had a fourteen piece
big band that I toured with that was like my
waitress job, meaning because I wanted to be an actress.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Right, So I would.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Sing with this band, and you know, as I was
getting better jobs and better agents and whatever, and so
for four years, most of our gigs were in Orange County, right,
So I was driving to Orange County four or five night,
it's a week.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And then I finally, you know, got some.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Great acting gigs and I was doing stand up and
doing all these different things, and it was.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Time to leave the band and you.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Know, pursue this other part of my career. And I
left the band and met you, Like, I was like,
I'm never going to Orange County again, and then I
met you like four months later.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, it's funny. I I don't miss Orange County at all.
I don't miss anything about it, you know. I mean,
my mother lives there. We still have obviously a big
life down there. You know, you have a lot of
friends down there. I have my best friend down there.
We still go down there all the time. Yeah, but
I don't know. I'm like, wherever I put my keys
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down is where I live.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
As far as I'm concerned, Well, I just think it's fun,
you know, I have to. We were talking about how
I was not good with change when we were younger.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But what's weird is you and I unwittingly we didn't
mean to.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
We move every three years, yeah, except our Crystal Cove house.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
We were there six years. Yeah, it was a great house.
But I enjoy switching it up.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Like, I know, there's people out there, and there's no
judgment in this, and you know, everyone's different, but some
people like being in They like the one house and
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Speaker 3 (13:55):
The big question for me is always where we going?
That's right, I'm interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
What's next?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I mean, we have so many hate when people say
it's like, just tell us what is We have so
many things changing right now?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, well, Kat, is it so bizarre? And it's not bad.
Some people are worried about being empty nesters. Terry and
I want to be We're not.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
We actually were.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We ran into a couple as site and they have
two kids and the second one is going off to college.
He was the same age as Cat, and I said
to the mom, I was like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
God, you're empty. Congratulations you made it empty. Nesters.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I know that's not a totally popular opinion with some people,
but I feel like.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We've been with them a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It's time for them to fly and do their thing,
and I love watching them navigate the world. I just
think it's fun and also selfishly for.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
You and me, I mean I want to go and
do well.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know what's funny, we are about to only have
one kid at home. We've never had just one because
we started with twins.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, so we always had we had two, and then
three and then four. Having just one feels very light.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, it's exciting. But you know, we're so close to
our kids, so we see them all the time.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, we see them all the time. We talk to
them all the time, we visit them all the time.
And I love it and I wouldn't change that for anything.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But for me personally, I will say, I guess, especially
career wise, now having another one in college definitely opens
up time for me to pursue I mean even like
you know, taking classes at the Groundlings or you know
these other things that I've been enjoying.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Do it like I have more time for that stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, No, it's an exciting time. I think one of
the things. You and I are uniquely ambitious. We like
to work, yeah, and we want to do new things,
you know, like I want to do new things all
the time.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
You should talk about that because sometimes we get comments
from people like I don't know if you do, but
I do. I get comments from people like isn't it enough?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Aren't you doing enough?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I try not to look at the comments, so you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Know I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm not talking about social media. I'm saying like I
will talk to I'll be you know, talking to just
an acquaintance or whatever, and like, oh, way up to
him doing this and this kind of want to do
that and that like why.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, would you do it enough? Yeah? I mean what
I try to do is I used to try to
live in. It was always about what am I doing
in the next five years? Right, five years now? And
everything gets contracted as we get older, because how much
time do you have left? I try to do.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Our friend was saying the other night, how many summers
do I have left?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I know who's that was?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Richard said it?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Richard said it who looks younger and has more time
than Richard? Right? But anyway, I try to I live
in this sort of two to three year thing where
the I want to make sure things happen in the
next two years. I don't want to do them in
five years anymore. I guess because we're old. No, well,
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I think we have resources, and if you're lucky and
you have a platform and you have some power, you
can affect change in your life within two years.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And that's interesting to me that you used to look
at the five year plan, because I remember we used.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
To talk about that.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I don't even boy, I just realizing this. My mindset
is completely changed. So I'm going to just speak like,
as an actress, right when you're in your twenties, we
all feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Trust me.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
If I don't make it, if I don't get X
by the time I'm twenty nine, thirty two, whatever that
number is for you, then it's never happening for me.
And I'm going to do something like you're so crazed
about the clock ticking when you're young, and I don't
know why that is, but I know me and my
friends all felt that way, and I'll tell you now
at fifty six, I don't feel that way.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
All This is probably.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
When I should be feeling that way, But I don't.
I feel like, you know what if it took an
extra six months. If there's something I want to accomplish
and it takes two months, six months or eight, it
doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well, that's because you've got you. We were all worried
about ticking off the big ticket items. Am I a
going to get married? B Am I going to get
the career? But yes, I see, Am I going to
have kids by this certain age? The big monumental things
that we've already done. So we're in this amazing situation where, well,
we've done all the big ones. In fact, if nothing
else happened, we'd still probably we wouldn't be happy about it.
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But we're we're good now. We really want to do
the good stuff, the extra stuff. Yeah, I mean, this
is the best part of my life right now. I'm
extremely healthy. I have no medical problems.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Wait, I love that you just said that.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah. I'm happy, happy, happier than I've ever been in
my life. I know I don't have to commute down
to Newport Beach anymore. You make sure I don't work
too hard, which I like because back in the day,
if I wasn't working, I wasn't living even you take
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me on vacation. I thought, this is such I got
to get back to work, and I was so worried.
And now you make sure that no matter how busy
you get, I'm not You're not going to be that busy.
Why crying?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Because I just love that You're too happy.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Oh I'm so happy. It's unbelievable. You know. Look, everything
else is now gravy for me. If I never I
do enjoy surgery. But if I never did another operation again,
if I never got to do TV show a TV
show again. Okay, if I never got to I'm good.
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I actually this is you want to hear something terrible.
I'm gonna say it anyway. I am comfortable dying right now.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh my god, why do you say?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
All right?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, now I don't need tissues.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Anymore because I got to do thank you. You know,
I got I got to do all the big ticket
items I really want to do. I wanted to be
a surgeon. Yeah, then I want to be a plastic surgeon.
Then I want to be a successful plastic surgeon. And
I want to be this and that. I got to
do all those things. Now, you know, I want to
do that really cool, hard to do stuff. That's what
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I want to do.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like, what what's on your list?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Me? Two things?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
One thing, I want to create a unique television show.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, and you're pitching it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
It's cool. Yeah, And if I can get someone to
do it, it will be successful. Everyone will watch it.
It is a no brainer. But sort of funding it myself. Right,
You can't just do that, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I remember this is such good advice, but I couldn't
take it at the time, but I sort of can now.
I remember when we first moved to Newport Beach, So
I went from being a full time working actress, like
seventeen hours on a set, loved every second, and my
last show that I was a series regular got canceled.
I didn't get anything in that pilot season. We had
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been trying to have a baby. We ended up doing IVF,
got pregnant with the Times, and I went from full
time working person to a full time stay at home
mom of two.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That was a very difficult transition. I hated it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I hated I hated not having any creative and I
had listen.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Oh, you didn't hate doing it, you hated not having
the other side of it.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Right, Yeah, No, I love my children. I love being
a mother.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And it's funny because I will I'll laugh with some
of my girlfriends that when we all had babies at
the same.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Time, because my friends were all working people too, and
it was very strange.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And as most moms know, you know, when you first
have kids, it's very isolating, you get very lonely, it's
very exhausting, all of those things.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So it was all those things.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
And I remember we had these babies and we were
going back and forth between Newport Beach in LA and
I would do a pilot and then it wouldn't get
picked up. We would do all these things. And you
said to me, if I could give you a crystal
ball and you show you that everything is going to
be fine and someday you will have everything that you
(21:56):
want and do all the things you want to do,
you'd relax.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And I'm like, right, you don't have a crystal ball.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And it was very hard for me to not care
about this other part of my life. And remember this
was before streaming and making your own content and social
media and you.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Know all of that stuff is it was a much
different time.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I will say, it's still amazingly good advice. Sometimes you
need that fire though, to propel you forward. But what
I will say, I'm so much better at that I
realized the other day is enjoying the process, because like,
you're talking about your TV show, and I'm curious about
your thoughts of this.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You're just talking about a TV show. But we all
know how this goes.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You come up with an idea, you work on a deck,
you pitch out the idea, pitch itite, pitch and pitch
and pitget.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Finally, take meetings, take meetings and nothing. Finally, if you're.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
So lucky, you get someone who's interested. Maybe they want
to develop it, maybe they want.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
To buy it.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That all takes time, takes time, and then in two
years and then you get the thing on the air
and it could go two episodes and they and it
doesn't work and it's dropped.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
The end result is almost inconsequential in comparison to the.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Fact that this is a complete journey.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Of creativity, of inception, creating, the meetings, the meeting of
the people.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
All of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I am so much better at enjoying that whole process
and understanding that then it's over and what yeah, how
about you?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I want to do it. I don't want the process.
I used to so much enjoy the process, and that
was almost enough. I remember when I used to go pitch.
I have pitched twenty five thirty five shows in my career, okay,
And I liked the driving to the s for Zoom,
the driving to meet the studio people, the network, the networks,
(23:45):
having the media. I thought that was good enough. I
don't want that anymore. I want to do it.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know, I don't really mean it like that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I want to do it too. I'm not saying that
I agree. I'm you and I are in the same boat,
and that I'm not saying just enjoyed the process and
who care.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I don't mean it like that. What I mean is.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
You can't be bugged by the process. You can't be
hassled by it. Things are different now. You don't get
to drive to the studios anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Now it's Zoom meetings.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It is all those studio meetings.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But it takes the glamour off of it, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Sitting in process isn't as cool as it used to be.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Process is not as cool. But I would say I'm
not hassled by it. I'm not stressed out by it,
not worried, like, eh, they don't.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Want it, move on? Cool, you know what I mean?
Like how you'd hang on to it. I don't feel
that way.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well, I think we live in a unique time, which
is great that you don't need a network, you don't
need a STUDI anymore. Like that. One of the main
things I want to do is these sort of short
videos about what works and what doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Like our doctor and missus getting that we're going to do.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
We're going to tell you about things to eat, the
glucose associated with that, whether IV NAD works, peptides, lasers, procedures,
and it's almost going to be like one of these
YouTube short video things. You're gonna get an answer in
forty five seconds. We're gonna do a lot of that.
We're gonna do a lot of other stuff like that.
But we have a unique platform to do that because
(25:09):
I'm an expert, You're an expert.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So fun and I love like we'll be sitting with
people at a dinner or whatever, and I'm just gonna
use creatine as an example, and we'll start talking about
creatine because Terry and I believe creatine is that one
of those supplements everyone should be on, no doubt, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
And we taught well just casually.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Like start talking about creatine, tell our stories about creating,
and I swear to you ten out of ten times,
and by the way, we don't make a creatine in
console beauty, so I'm not trying to sell you anything,
but ten out of ten times, everyone takes their phone
out and says, how many milligrams?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Where do you get it? Which one do you like?
Ten out of ten times.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So Terry and I were talking about it, We're like,
you know what, it's time to bring doctor and missus
guinea pig back. And so that's what we're gonna do it.
We're gonna do YouTube shorts and tiktoks and show you
guys what's out there, because it's like the wild wild West.
I see people posting, and I find this a little scary,
even like people like on my show posting about peptides
(26:08):
and testosterone and all kinds of things. And look, they're
not trying to give medical advice or anything. But you know,
when you have a platform and people are listening, what
is actually working and what's dangerous And so.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
For sure I get to do that with you, because
I wish it doesn't depend on a network saying yes,
here's the funds for it, and we're going to put
it on it this time, this hour and this network.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
And so that I'm doing, I'm going to put up
a poll with someone remind me of what people want
us to test and talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Let's hear what the people want.
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Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well, we're talking about change, right, what's coming up for
us next? I means, what's weird? Is right now? The
same week, separated from twenty four hours? Are shows weird?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Weird? Was that?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
By the way, we did something so funny the other night? Well,
I failed yesterday I shot this commercial which I'm I
allowed to talk about yet, but it was really fun
and I was going to take everyone along.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
With me on the day and then I totally forgot
to film most of it. But this is what we did.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
We went to Stake forty eight last night. I was
curious to see how everyone was going to take Real Housewives.
So one kind of way to look is to go
on the x feed and see what people are saying,
go on different social medias. So we went to Stake
forty eight, we looked at the Twitter feed, We had
drinks and we talked about the show because my show
(28:23):
premiered that night, and Terry's show premiered the night before,
and it was just like kind of a fun thing
to see. People were very excited that the show is back.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes, yes, which was fun and.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Usually with the first episode there's not too many trolls
on there. It was pretty like fine, everyone's just excited
that the show is back and happy to see everyone,
because the first episode of our show is usually just.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
A catch up, Right, what have people been doing? Where
are they?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
They do these fun carousels, which I like, which is
like a few seconds of you and me, a few
seconds of Gene and Dravis, a few seconds of tam
or net.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
But you know, I like that. It's cute.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So that's what we did on premiere night, and we
watched the feed and saw what everyone was saying.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yep, and your show came out too.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Came out the night before.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah. My new show's Plastic Surgery Rewind. Botch presents Plastic
Surgery Rewind And I have no idea how well or
not received it is yet. It's really hard to tell. Now.
In the old days, you could get things called the
overnight ratings and get a sort of an idea of
how many people watched it, and then you would get
the real ratings for like the first twenty four hours,
(29:37):
and then you get the three day ratings. Now nobody
watches it live, well, I guess diehard fans do. Right
now you have to figure out, I think within a week.
So I have no idea whether plastic surgery rewind is
getting interest or not.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I saw some nice articles about it. Yeah, it was
pretty buzzy. They were saying, what did I read odd
our aubry O dat found out? Did he was arrested
while you were filming?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I remember that?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Is that on the show?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah? It's on the show. Yeah, it's interesting. All these
celebrities move into a house. They've all had some surgery,
and then they discussed whether they want to rewind remove
their surgery. If they do, I take them to the
operating room and then we see how it affected their lives.
It was a Remember I worked on that show for
a year before we went into production. Remember that, Yes, yes, yes,
(30:33):
And how weird they would come out at the almost
exact same time as that road.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Helps so bizarre. How many episodes is it eight?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
And so you know, depending on the reaction it'll go
another season, or we'll do Botched again or whatever. Who knows.
The nice thing is botched is still live in a
good way, you know. I look forward to doing more
Botched or botch presents or whatever that's really fun. But
I at the stage of my life I like to
(31:03):
do multiple things. I just don't want to do one thing.
I just don't want to do just surgery. I just
don't want to do just botched or just med legal.
I want to do many, many things with lots of
potential time off.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I mean, speaking of time off, we have like a
lot of trips planned.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, I mean you do have me working not at all.
In July, my office said, you're working three days this month.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Well, listen, you three days. Terry and I are really
good at sitting down and you know, discussing where we're
at and what's important and what we need to be doing.
And we really love traveling. Having said that, we really
love working. So to find that balance is really important,
(31:49):
and find the balance of traveling with the kids versus
traveling by ourselves and all of that.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, you don't amaze meet new topic if you don't
mind how many of our friends don't eat and don't drink.
They reached a certain stage in their lives where they
stopped eating all sugar and stop and don't drink both
and stop drinking all No one, Oh okay, that trip
we just went on Croatia.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Oh two people down that trip.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Two people don't drink alcohol, four people don't eat sugar.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I mean so many people are willing once they've reached
a certain age, seem to be so concerned about preserving
themselves or something.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, I think that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I mean, look, there's obviously definitely some people who you know,
I have a lot of friends like this who feel
like alcohol doesn't serve them anymore, right, and some of them,
I mean that's why I started trying microdosing mushrooms and
all that stuff, because I was like, I had friends
that were doing that instead of drinking.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
That's not my thing.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
But now you're over and over.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'm really I'm just not good with drugs. Yeah, I'm
really not alcohol.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Like, I get it, I understand how to trate it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I like the the the what's what's what am I
looking for?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
The ceremony or ceremony process.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, yes, I like the glasses. I like the look
of it. I like the beverage. I like how I
feel it's that's the tone. It does have the drone.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
But I have to say, even for me, you know,
I had many months this year where I didn't drink
at all.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, but it's just amazing. It interests me how many
people are trying to live a super perfect It's almost
I think it's called esthetic life. Where esthetic I think
so maybe that means skinny, I don't know, but anyway
where esthetic aesthetic aesthetic is how you no no, but
there's a there's a Yeah, there's a term for it
(33:54):
where no sugar, no alcohol, almost like no joy and.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Hedronic Yeah, and uh staticism, esthetic aestheticism, aestheticism?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Was it a ees or as what you say aes
getting back up as aestheticism? Right, Yeah, it's like a
life without any kind of stimulation, almost like perfection.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, if you're getting used different ways, is.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
If you're trained for a usc fight. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Well, people get their highs different ways. Some people get it.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
From they're getting highs.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Endorphins from working out. One of the people you're talking
about is very into fitness.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, very into fitness. Well, that's just part of another person.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
You're talking about won't eat sugar but enjoys martinis.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah. But anyway, people our age that we know of
a great percentage of them are pursuing that esthetic life.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And then we have a bunch of friends that are lushes.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And just and we try to be in somewhere in
the middle.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, I think we've reached.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I mean, I feel like I've reached a pretty good balance.
I love my new workout life. Yeah, and we're going
to talk about that in our YouTube, also about you know,
working working out at different decades of your life, because
I think that is so important.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, No, I like where I am workout wise.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I like where I am with my relationship with alcohol,
I like yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
And food I like it.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah. I like the microdosing of tru zeppetite.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
He loves his.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I love pinjarros my my zep bounds. I love that stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Do you think because of all of the information now
about the cognitive effects and the work they're doing on
Alzheimer's patients and all these different things, do you think
it will become more like a supplement that people will
be getting instead of a weight loss drug.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I don't but I think there will be a boatload
of people who use it for anti aging.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Do you think they'll do a smaller dose for people
that want it just for anti aging and not for
weight life.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I do it a very small dose done every seven
days or every ten days, just to control the noise
and the sugar and reduce the inflammation.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
That's yeah, it's all about all about the inflammation.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, I think micro dosing this stuff's to me. The
problem is the stuff's kind of expensive.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Will it be always though?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, well until it goes generic, which is not going
to be for a bunch of time.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I think why, how do how does something go generic? It?
Is it like music where a song has to be
out for one hundred.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Years before it's but this is less time.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
What's the word before it's public domain?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
So you get it?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Like happy birthday is now a free song? Do you
know when I first was a young actress, you couldn't
sing happy Birthday on.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
A TV show?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Really? Nope, amazing They.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Would sing like for he's a jolly goodfeller.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, I mean, you know a drug comp he spends
tremendous billions in R and D and they're allowed to
be the only one to sell that drug for a
certain period of time, and then after that time it lapses,
they anybody can make it.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So is it a standard amount of time or is
it different for every drug.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I think it's a standard amount of time. Yeah, in general.
But because there was a shortage, if there's a national shortage,
then pharmacies are allowed to compound it, allowed to make it.
And that's why people were getting online all of these
GLP ones, the others.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
There was a shortage, there was.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
A shortage, and then once the drug company says, okay,
there's no shortage anymore, you can get it. We have
unlimited quantity, can't compound, you can't compound it. But they're
still doing it online. So you can still get it online.
But you don't know because a real pharmacy with real
licenses are it's illegal for them to make these drugs,
but you can still get them online. So now you're
(37:54):
selecting out the pharmacies who are like willing to open
up here and make it and sell it and then
are to be subjected investigation.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Scary them. How do you know what they're putting in it?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You don't, So I recommend I just recommend against taking
all of these things compounded.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
What do you think about you know, I've seen a
lot of people selling gummies and stuff that are like
GLP one adjacent sort of things.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Well, there are you know, there's always these supplements, and
we have one berberine that that sort of have like
GLP one effects. Yeah, and they avoid all the side
effects and the expense and so on of the injectibles.
But it depends. I mean, they're as long as they're
sort of based in science, but they're not obviously going
to be as powerful as the prescription drugs. The question is,
(38:40):
you know, who do you get it from? You have
a doctor wh's willing to prescribe you these drugs for
off label indications. Because I take these off label. I
take them for anti aging. I take them for reduction
of inflammation on this microdosing, and it's tremendous, tremendously effective.
I think ultimately, you know, a greater great I mean
(39:03):
a lot of people were taking met forman b anti aging. Yeah,
that was ada. Yeah, I think it's a big deal.
You certainly don't take it for it's indicated really.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
But it has similar properties to the GLP ones, so
it's shutting down the sugars and the inflammation.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Which I think is so great.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
So can you take met foreman and do you pay
ones together?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
I mean, in general, the answer is yes, you can.
For an individual. I'm not giving any medical advice Tony.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You he's not your doctor, but you'd.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Have to check with your doctor. But definitely you can
take those together. You know, there's some sort of side
effects you can get with met form and lactic acidosis
and other things which we don't need to talk about.
But yeah, absolutely, I think they're wonderful together. I take
them together.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
We are going on a family trip on Sunday. Yes,
we're gonna be an Idaho.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah, dah Yeah, Lake Cordelaine.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It's so pretty.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, it's pretty. I'm a little concerned because I like
to work in my little stimulated thing and it's very
very super high end. But it's very same same, so
I'm a little concerned when to get them and go Okay, Well,
remember you.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Were concerned about going on the ship as well, and
that was a great trip.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
It was a great trip, but we were on a ship.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
It was very highlighted.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
I mean, this is yeah, this is very very nice,
but you.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Know, what's nice about this trip, I think is that
I like the way I've planned the whole thing. I
feel I'm so happy that we have so our kids
wanted to bring friends, and I said, that's fine, but
not till halfway through the week, right, And actually it's
even less than that. So we have like four days
alone and three days they have their friends.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
So it's perfect.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
So we can spend four days with the kids running
around doing all the things and enjoying them, and then
their friends can come and we can have some alone
time because honestly, the week, I mean, that's right before
everyone's leaving, because then Kat's going to go to college,
Max is going to go back to Boston, Nicky's going
(41:03):
to move back into his.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
House, and then we just have ace.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, So my concern on a trip like this is,
so you get this is my problem. I get up okay,
and I have to try not to overeat. Yes, and
then when do I have my first cocktail, this is
not good, okay, And then once I break the seal
on the cocktail, all hell has broken.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
List it's just not good. Yeah, I will tell you.
We have another fun trip coming up as well, well.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
That one, So that one I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
So Ace is doing a summer program in Europe at
a college and very excited about it. He founded himself,
applied himself, got in and is doing this very cool
entrepreneur thing for a couple of weeks. And so I thought, God,
that's far. Maybe we should hang out in Europe for
(41:58):
a couple of days, just make sure he's okay, settled.
And that turned into me and Terry going to the
South of France.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, that's which I love. That's going to be insane.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I'm excited for that.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, so we're in terms of again breaking the seal
on the cocktail. When we're in the South of France,
it's like, okay, it's ten am, but what time is
it in Los Angeles?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Oh oh, we're fine. It's like when you go to
the airport, time doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah. One of the things I'm very happy about that
I'm doing that I would recommend people do, is I
It's easy for me to say it's because I've reached
a certain stage of life, but I focus every my
whole day about when am I going to do my
body moving? When am I going to move with the bone.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
You're very good at that.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You're also very good at Terry really keeps up with
the trends. We're going to talk about this on our
tiktoks and yeah YouTube also but about like I was saying,
working out in different decades.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
But also, you know, we're not.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Going to get into it because we know Darry loves
to talk about zone two. But this whole concept of
zone two and training, I realized, you know, people were saying,
maybe a year ago, you're too skinny, You're just skinny.
And what I realized was when I started, you know,
just doing pilates and I wasn't doing the hit training anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
It wasn't lifting.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
And I love how long and lean and you know,
I'm so strong in the core, but I just you know,
recently picked up.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
The weights again and I'm doing all that. So glad
about that.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, I mean, you have to do resistance training men
and women. Women really really important because you get osteoporosis
more easily. You got to preserve your lead muscle mass,
and you've got to do this sort of slow, long,
you know cardio thing. You know, sixty percent of your
maximum heart rate that's called low intensey steady state or
Zone two training, and you've got to elevate your protein
(43:53):
and you should be protein intake and you should be
taking creatine. Everything's like the minimums.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
You know, what are you most excited about for our
alone trip?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
I love the music and these gloves. I love the clubs.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay, So if you've if you've not been to one
of these places, South France, Saint bart there's any of
the places. I'm sure there's I'm sure Greece does this
kind of thing and probably cost the Malfi coast. So
they have these places you go and I've talked about
them before where you go and you have lunch and
it's like a three hour lunch. Yes, food is spectacularly
(44:33):
good and the music.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Is insane so good, and it always ends with the AA.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
There's four songs.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
This four songs.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
There's I guess Rain down and Out, oh h of course,
and then Toto.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
There's always Toto. There's always Dancing Queen. Yes, there's always
Bob Bob.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
What's that one?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Oh yeah, Neil Diamond, Sweet Carola. Those three are definite. Yeah,
there's one more that we're not.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Coming up with.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Well, yeah, but it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
And I remember we were in Saint Bart with Mike
and Nancy and another couple who lives in Saint Bart
and they were laughing about, you know, the music and everything,
because they don't usually go to those kind of places
unless they have.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Friends in town.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
And we were there and but even when those songs played,
they were.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Up and dancing.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
It was so funny.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I'm like, Oh, but you know what's really nice about
these places. Everyone's dressed beautifully, the music's great, the air
yous look good, the air is good.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
It's just so nice.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Centro Pei. I love the beach there where you can
literally walk out a quarter mile and you're still only
up to your waist. It's so nice and it's warm
and it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It's gonna be really hot it gazar.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
No, Oh, it's central to be really hot in Quarterlane.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Oh, it's going to be really hot there too.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yeah, that's gonna be challenging. Are we doing the boat thing?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I meany days were doing the boat thing too.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Got the boat thing going? Do you want to play
golf with Nikki?
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
No.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I arranged some pilates for me and the kids that
like to do pilates I'm excited about you and I are.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Going to hike.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
There is funny that you know there isn't a good
water thing for us at Cordelane. It's like, you know,
let's go in the water. How many times do we
go in the water in Cordline. We don't. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, you and I really don't where.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Zehra pay we go in the water.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
We do.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
It because it's cold.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
The water's cold, but it should be very nice now yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
I'm excited, all right, So talk to me about what
you're looking forward to. So I'm looking because we're like, sorry,
we're like midway through the year, right, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
This is the halfway point. So it's funny.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I was on the phone with my manager the other
day and we like we're talking about the things that
we are going, what's going on right now, and how
we're going into the last half of the year. Like strong,
I feel really excited about things that we're doing and
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
So tell me what that is for you. Here's your
half year check it. What's good? Now?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
What are you excited about? So expanding my practice in
Beverly Hills awesome, okay, Number one. Number two, maintaining a
very thorough extensive workout program here because now I have
more hours because I'm not commuting so much. I look
forward to this new project where we're going to test
(47:38):
things in ourselves and put it out there and teach
people what we were smiled. There's so much bs out there,
there's so much being sold that doesn't work. I look
forward to the possibility of maybe doing a new show
you know that I've always wanted to do. We'll see
if that happens, and you know, just become just continue
(48:00):
to be on a path of health and wellness and
longevity because I'm now in the downward slide where things
that haven't happened yet will happen in the next five, ten, fifteen,
twenty twenty five years. And just making sure I monitor
myself that it so I figure it out before it
figures me out, you know what I mean. And then,
(48:21):
you know, continue having this wonderful relationship with you and
our kids and moving to the next stage of life
and doing a lot of different things and helping people.
What about you.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I love that our son Nick has on his phone
This too shall pass because I you know Tom Hanks,
he's the one that I heard say it, but he was,
you know, in a conversation with other people saying this
too shall pass. That that means good things and bad things.
So when things are bad and you say this two
shall pass, like things will get better when things are good,
(48:52):
this too shall pass, meaning enjoy them and appreciate them
while they're good.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, and don't expect them to always be there, because.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
They won't, so you really have to, which is I
think what I was kind of getting up before about
and enjoying the process of doing shows and stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
It's like this two shell pass.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'd rather be in play than not right.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
So I.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Had a pretty good season on Housewives, I think. Obviously
I haven't seen it, so we'll talk to me in
twelve episodes and I'll let you know if I feel
the same way. But I really felt more like myself
this year.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
This is also since I've been back.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
I feel like the first year someone wasn't lying about
me on the show, which was very nice and refreshing
and allowed me to really just be which was nice.
I obviously most important to me is our family, so
my relationship with you and I love all the things
(49:53):
that we're doing together, and the trips were taking and
the businesses were working on and even new products we're doing.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
It's like, it's exciting. I love all of that.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
And as a mother, you know, they say you're only
as happy as your unhappiest.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Child, and oh my good emotional gat and you know
this too, shell pass. But right now they're all good.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, they're all pretty good.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
They're all pretty good. I change, Yeah, of course it does.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
It's mercurial. You know, that's kids, it's parenting. You know,
it's up and down. But I like that all four
of them are on the precipice of something interesting and unique,
all four of them, and I love watching that and
being a small part of it and guiding and helping
(50:44):
and seeing them fly.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I just love that that feeds my soul.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
And you know, personally, I you know, I have no
idea what's going to happen with these projects we're working on,
and there's TV things and there's podcasting and there's all
these different fun things, and I'm excited to see how
everything shakes out. And yeah, I think I'm just I'm
(51:15):
in a you know, you said it before, and I think, yeah,
I'm a very good, happy thing. I mean, I wish
my hormones were balanced every day, that would be nice.
This menopause thing sucks, really, man, I feel all you girls.
There's this girl on TikTok Melanie, and she created this
club that we do not care a club. It is
(51:35):
the funniest We do not care that we forgot we
were gonna say when we walk into the room. We
do not care that we're not wearing you know, pants
with zippers anymore.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Like it's just so.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
And it's a huge community and millions of people women
all saying what we do not care about anymore because
we're at this stage of life. It's brilliant and I
love it and I love the community she's created, and
it's freed me up a bit to.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Be like, yeah, you know what, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I I'm making myself happy, which I think I haven't
done always.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
That's good. Well, you've done at ten amazing years here
at podcast one. You've done an amazing job with incredible content.
And I mean, I have an idea of what's coming
next for you, and I think it's very concrete and
very on and very interesting. And I love you and
I love where you're going. And I think for you,
(52:28):
this is certainly one of the most exciting, the most
exciting time in your life since you know, you were
doing your own show on NBC, well CVS at NBC.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
I think those days were easier in a way because before.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
We had kids.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah, it was just that was it.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Our relationship and our separate careers. Yeah, so it was
a little more binary, right, It was easy to track,
and you know, we were on a good train, projectory
and all that.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
And then after all these years.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, I mean, but you know, you you are a
very experienced, successful CEO of your and our lives. You
dial you you hold many hats, a lot of businesses,
a lot of resources, and you're in control. And I
don't know how you do it. I have, like, you know,
(53:26):
I'm like the chief, you know, technical officer at your company,
and I just have to do one thing and focus
on how does the how does this object work? Can
I make this object better? All I have to do
is work on this where you have to work on
the You're like the tim cook of our lives. You
have to manipulate everything you do. It's excuse me so well,
(53:49):
and I think I'm so thankful for you and grateful
for you, and grateful to be just one of your
humble servants in your life and be able to participate
in Heather Debro's world because Heather brose world. I'm telling you,
ever get a chance to visit, or live in, or
experience Heather to Bro's world. It's a giant, multi million dollar,
(54:10):
totally interesting enterprise with a lot of facets to it,
and it's fun and cool, and I invite you to
stay and be a part of it in the future.
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Well that was really sweet. I'm crying again. Both is
all very bittersweet. You know, a lot has happened this
last ten years.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
Yeah, and this is I think the sweet spot. So
let's do it. Let's move on and explode through to
the next phase. You know, Stoicism. By the way, if
anybody wants to, if you're at a phase of your
life where things are not good, things are good, things
are changing, I invite you to go online and go
(54:51):
anywhere and just look up stoicism, the spiritualism of Stoicism,
and just read about it, see videos on it. It's
a really healthy way to live your life.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Thank you. For being here my pleasure. I love you,
I love you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
I can't even do this, but thank you all for
being with me for the last decade.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
I am so grateful for all.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Of you again, so grateful for everyone here at podcast one.
Thank you for listening, for supporting, for working with me
all of the things.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
I am just.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
You know, humbled, honored to have been here for a decade.
I'm excited for you all to see what is about
to happen and what we're doing next.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
I'm super excited.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
It's completely new, different, interesting, and I'm hoping you'll come
along with me.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
And to end things, I am going to give a
nod to the fabulous Jonathan Blooth, who wrote a theme
song for Heather Debrow's world ten years ago, and he's
just wonderful and sent it to me and you know,
it's just the best. So we're gonna play it out
with that.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Bye, everyone, wor
Let's talk with Heather dubro start. I can't even do
it without crying.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh really, okay, welcome everybody. I'm super hyper emotional.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I'm just telling you now I'm going to be crying
a lot in this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
My lovely husband, Terry Dubrow is here, which is very exciting.
So thank you for being here, honey, my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I Oh, we're going to talk today about a little
bit about housewives. We're going to talk a little about
Terry's new show, Plastic Surgery Rewind, and we are going
to talk about changes, changes that are going on with us,
changes that are going on with our kids. And I'm
going to start with this change that's going on here
(00:44):
at podcast one.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I can't believe. I didn't think i'd be this emotional,
but after.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Ten years, ten years here at podcast one, I am
ending my journey here. So we started with Heather Dubrow's
World and morphed into let's talk. It has been a
decade of podcasting. I remember when your agent, Lance Klein
(01:09):
said to me, you need a podcast, and I said,
that is a great idea.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What is a podcast?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And I had no idea, And I came here and
I met Norm Pattis. We chatted for two seconds and he.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Was like, great, yes, you need a podcast. This is
a great idea. And here we are ten years later.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
And first of all, I just want to say thank
you to everyone at podcast one, all of my co
hosts and guests, and especially my lovely producers, most recently
Gabby and Steve who've been with me for years, and
of course Stacy and Kirsten and just everyone that has
(01:46):
been a part of Heather de Brow's world and let's
talk over the years, and especially all of you that
listen and support and are part of the community.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Honestly, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It has been incredible, learned so much, We've all shared
so much, We've been through so many life events together.
But I also want to say, you know, when a
housewife leaves a.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Show, what do they always say, Honey.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
The good, great things coming, Stay tuned, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's the big thing we always hear, stay tuned, and
then nothing ever happens. So I do want to say
I am very sad that my time here at podcast
one is over it and we've really had a beautiful
decade together. Truly, I am not ending my podcasting journey here.
And there is a fun announcement coming in the next
(02:36):
I think it's in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I'm not exactly sure, but it's very excited. He stay
tuned for that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And I think you're all going to be really excited
about sort of what's next. Where do we go from here,
what's the next iteration and what does this.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
New chapter look like? And I'm excited for it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And as sad as I am to leave my friends here,
I'm excited for the potential.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of what's to be.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And not only do I have an exciting announcement in
about two weeks, but Terry and I have an exciting
announcement that will happen about the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So be on the lookout for that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Make sure you're following me at Heather du Brow on
all platforms, and you will see those announcements coming very
I think it's two weeks, okay, And that and there's that.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I love change changes.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You know, change is to be very scary for me.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, I like was never that great with change when
I was younger.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Best things that ever happened to me in life are
because of changes.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, you and I have a lot of changes going
on in our life right now. Number one, I'm starting
a new podcast journey right. Number two, our third child's
leaving wow to go to collegehere we only.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Have one child left.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Crazy. Number three that means I'm gonna have to walk
the dogs more.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes, no, because the ace is the one that likes
to walk the dog. So I think you're okay there.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Makes me walk the dog sometimes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And number three your practice.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I moved my practice to Beverly Hills this week.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Is that crazy?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
After how many years? Twenty years?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, I've been in Newport Beach since nineteen ninety six,
just before we met. Yeah, twenty nine years. Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
You know, I'm extraordinarily good with change because I really,
as you know, live in the moment and I don't
really know what I'm I've sort of live in the
next six hours. So the fact that, like I woke
up yesterday true.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So you know, well, first of all, you know, my
joke about Terry this is kind of a visual, but
my joke about Terry, my hands.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Are up like I've just scrubbed, yeah surgery.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
My joke about Terry's that Terry walks around like he's
just scrubbed in for surgery, like he doesn't touch anything,
this man, And I mean this with.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
A lot of love.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, but you all you have to focus on You're
very brilliant guy, great surgery.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You do many many jobs.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But really you just focus on literally the task ahead.
Because you have a work wife, you have me, you
have all of your support staff that makes it all
work around you.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, not everybody can. It's easy for me to say,
live in the moment, be mindful, you are where you're at,
pop up ball.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You can't because of us.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I can because I don't. Everybody takes care of me.
You're like a child in an adult world. And then
I do many sort of high end things, but I
don't have to sort of plan them at all. Everybody
takes care of me in such a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, I have to have the same office staff. One
of my off my main office staff has been with
me since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But isn't that so great? I mean to me, that's
a testament to you.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I would say most of the people that work with
us in our home and in our lives have been
with us four fifteen years yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
My shortest staff member is seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Who's that which one?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I think it's Jamie?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Really? How long has VICKI been with you.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Since nineteen ninety six?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, over thirty years. I know I've been very lucky
and I haven't had a lot of people come and go.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, which is great.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, makes and it also makes transitions easier.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I think I've been very lucky. You know, I'm how
ridiculously lucky? Am I?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So lucky?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I want to talk about CAP but before we do,
I want to I want to ask.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You, like, what does so?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I think a lot of people probably don't know this,
but when you started your plastic surgery career, first you
go through how many years of training?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Fourteen med schools for four and then you do, in
my day, seven years of general surgery trading and then
two years of plastic surgery. So I started in Burbank
and Newport Beach same time. So I opened up a
little office down the hall for my best friend med
school doctor Scott Form, an amazing orthopedic surgeon. He found
(06:55):
me in office down the hall from him, and I go,
he was come down here and check it out. I
go what is this? He goes this Newport Beach.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'd never but how long were you in Burbank for?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And then to make money? I joined a guy named
Corzelius in Burbank.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, yeah, for like a year and a half. And
so I lived in Santa Monica, the same place I
lived while I was a resident UCLA, and I would
go Burbank and Newport Beach. Sometimes I'd go to each
place twice in a day.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But I remember you telling me that you always thought
you'd be a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's what I wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And then you know, Scott shows you how gorgeous Newport
Beaches and you end up digging in down there and
you're there for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, and now poof, here you are and I mean,
arguably maybe even the peak of your career.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, and now a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Like what is that? Mentally? Does that do anything for you? Mentally?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think it nothing does that much for me mentally anymore, because,
like I said, I live in that well family does.
But I well, okay, so I love something about Beverly Hills.
I always love when you're a kid growing up in
fan Eyes, deep in the valley, very near Pacoima. Okay,
(08:15):
you hear about Beverly Hills, right, And then when I
was in high school, friends of mine say, let's go
to a Beverly Hills party. You go, and you go
over to Beverly Hills and everything was just so perfect
in Beverly Hills, so clean, the sidewalks were just spotless,
the restaurants everything looked. It was pretty, so pretty, And you.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Didn't go to Beverly Hills till you were in high.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
School, and not once really, yeah, and maybe twice. When
I was in high school, you know, I lived in
the valley. Our fancy place was in Sino. That was
our Beverly Hills. And then Beverly Hills was like, you know,
going to Harvard or something. It was like this unattainable
place to live in. You never would go there, right.
And then once I started to sort of get into
(08:58):
medical school and start get those level achievements and think about, well,
maybe I'll be a plastic surgeon, I said, well, whoa
could you imagine being a plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills
and I always wanted to do it, but I went,
I go with the flow. My buddy said, you got
to come down to Newport Beach. I go, okay, what
is that? He showed it to me. I said all right,
and I just did it, and I ended up at
(09:18):
Newport Beach. But now that I'm in Beverly Hills, I
must say, I walk around going, Wow, this place is special.
I really like it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You know, you can walk to work.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I can walk to work. Yeah. So, but I've always
been very, very good with change. It never freaked me out.
I remember when I loved UCLA Medical Center. I loved it. Okay,
I knew everyone. I was extremely friendly. I walked down
the hall, people were blown away. Hi, Terry, Hi, Terry High.
I was really social back then.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
That's so my face was weird.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I was all over the walls because I did medical
school plastic. I did so many years of training there
that every year they take a picture they put on
the walls. Loved it there. I remember when I graduated
and I said, well, I'm never probably never coming back here.
For a second, I went oh, and I went anyway,
never thought about it again.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, you are someone who's not that connected to things.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Like that, well, which I like. Yeah, I like that. Yeah,
so I got well, I just and so now but
now that I'm in everything else, I really really like it.
Of course I have to contrast it. We've been sort
of living up here and I've been in communing for
three years till two years now to Newport Beach, and
that's robbed me of four hours a day.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, community's hard.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Oh so it's so hard.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
What's so funny is I don't know if a lot
of people knows.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But when we met, so, I had a fourteen piece
big band that I toured with that was like my
waitress job, meaning because I wanted to be an actress.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Right, So I would.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Sing with this band, and you know, as I was
getting better jobs and better agents and whatever, and so
for four years, most of our gigs were in Orange County, right,
So I was driving to Orange County four or five night,
it's a week.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And then I finally, you know, got some.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Great acting gigs and I was doing stand up and
doing all these different things, and it was.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Time to leave the band and you.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Know, pursue this other part of my career. And I
left the band and met you, Like, I was like,
I'm never going to Orange County again, and then I
met you like four months later.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, it's funny. I I don't miss Orange County at all.
I don't miss anything about it, you know. I mean,
my mother lives there. We still have obviously a big
life down there. You know, you have a lot of
friends down there. I have my best friend down there.
We still go down there all the time. Yeah, but
I don't know. I'm like, wherever I put my keys
(11:44):
down is where I live.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
As far as I'm concerned, Well, I just think it's fun,
you know, I have to. We were talking about how
I was not good with change when we were younger.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But what's weird is you and I unwittingly we didn't
mean to.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
We move every three years, yeah, except our Crystal Cove house.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
We were there six years. Yeah, it was a great house.
But I enjoy switching it up.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Like, I know, there's people out there, and there's no
judgment in this, and you know, everyone's different, but some
people like being in They like the one house and
that's their family home and where the memories are. To me,
it's like, if I'm with you and the kids, I
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Speaker 3 (13:55):
The big question for me is always where we going?
That's right, I'm interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
What's next?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I mean, we have so many hate when people say
it's like, just tell us what is We have so
many things changing right now?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, well, Kat, is it so bizarre? And it's not bad.
Some people are worried about being empty nesters. Terry and
I want to be We're not.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
We actually were.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We ran into a couple as site and they have
two kids and the second one is going off to college.
He was the same age as Cat, and I said
to the mom, I was like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
God, you're empty. Congratulations you made it empty. Nesters.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I know that's not a totally popular opinion with some people,
but I feel like.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We've been with them a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It's time for them to fly and do their thing,
and I love watching them navigate the world. I just
think it's fun and also selfishly for.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
You and me, I mean I want to go and
do well.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know what's funny, we are about to only have
one kid at home. We've never had just one because
we started with twins.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, so we always had we had two, and then
three and then four. Having just one feels very light.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, it's exciting. But you know, we're so close to
our kids, so we see them all the time.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, we see them all the time. We talk to
them all the time, we visit them all the time.
And I love it and I wouldn't change that for anything.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But for me personally, I will say, I guess, especially
career wise, now having another one in college definitely opens
up time for me to pursue I mean even like
you know, taking classes at the Groundlings or you know
these other things that I've been enjoying.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Do it like I have more time for that stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, No, it's an exciting time. I think one of
the things. You and I are uniquely ambitious. We like
to work, yeah, and we want to do new things,
you know, like I want to do new things all
the time.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
You should talk about that because sometimes we get comments
from people like I don't know if you do, but
I do. I get comments from people like isn't it enough?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Aren't you doing enough?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I try not to look at the comments, so you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Know I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm not talking about social media. I'm saying like I
will talk to I'll be you know, talking to just
an acquaintance or whatever, and like, oh, way up to
him doing this and this kind of want to do
that and that like why.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, would you do it enough? Yeah? I mean what
I try to do is I used to try to
live in. It was always about what am I doing
in the next five years? Right, five years now? And
everything gets contracted as we get older, because how much
time do you have left? I try to do.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Our friend was saying the other night, how many summers
do I have left?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I know who's that was?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Richard said it?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Richard said it who looks younger and has more time
than Richard? Right? But anyway, I try to I live
in this sort of two to three year thing where
the I want to make sure things happen in the
next two years. I don't want to do them in
five years anymore. I guess because we're old. No, well,
(17:00):
I think we have resources, and if you're lucky and
you have a platform and you have some power, you
can affect change in your life within two years.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And that's interesting to me that you used to look
at the five year plan, because I remember we used.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
To talk about that.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I don't even boy, I just realizing this. My mindset
is completely changed. So I'm going to just speak like,
as an actress, right when you're in your twenties, we
all feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Trust me.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
If I don't make it, if I don't get X
by the time I'm twenty nine, thirty two, whatever that
number is for you, then it's never happening for me.
And I'm going to do something like you're so crazed
about the clock ticking when you're young, and I don't
know why that is, but I know me and my
friends all felt that way, and I'll tell you now
at fifty six, I don't feel that way.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
All This is probably.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
When I should be feeling that way, But I don't.
I feel like, you know what if it took an
extra six months. If there's something I want to accomplish
and it takes two months, six months or eight, it
doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well, that's because you've got you. We were all worried
about ticking off the big ticket items. Am I a
going to get married? B Am I going to get
the career? But yes, I see, Am I going to
have kids by this certain age? The big monumental things
that we've already done. So we're in this amazing situation where, well,
we've done all the big ones. In fact, if nothing
else happened, we'd still probably we wouldn't be happy about it.
(18:26):
But we're we're good now. We really want to do
the good stuff, the extra stuff. Yeah, I mean, this
is the best part of my life right now. I'm
extremely healthy. I have no medical problems.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Wait, I love that you just said that.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah. I'm happy, happy, happier than I've ever been in
my life. I know I don't have to commute down
to Newport Beach anymore. You make sure I don't work
too hard, which I like because back in the day,
if I wasn't working, I wasn't living even you take
(19:00):
me on vacation. I thought, this is such I got
to get back to work, and I was so worried.
And now you make sure that no matter how busy
you get, I'm not You're not going to be that busy.
Why crying?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Because I just love that You're too happy.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Oh I'm so happy. It's unbelievable. You know. Look, everything
else is now gravy for me. If I never I
do enjoy surgery. But if I never did another operation again,
if I never got to do TV show a TV
show again. Okay, if I never got to I'm good.
(19:34):
I actually this is you want to hear something terrible.
I'm gonna say it anyway. I am comfortable dying right now.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh my god, why do you say?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
All right?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, now I don't need tissues.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Anymore because I got to do thank you. You know,
I got I got to do all the big ticket
items I really want to do. I wanted to be
a surgeon. Yeah, then I want to be a plastic surgeon.
Then I want to be a successful plastic surgeon. And
I want to be this and that. I got to
do all those things. Now, you know, I want to
do that really cool, hard to do stuff. That's what
(20:06):
I want to do.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like, what what's on your list?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Me? Two things?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
One thing, I want to create a unique television show.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, and you're pitching it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
It's cool. Yeah, And if I can get someone to
do it, it will be successful. Everyone will watch it.
It is a no brainer. But sort of funding it myself. Right,
You can't just do that, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I remember this is such good advice, but I couldn't
take it at the time, but I sort of can now.
I remember when we first moved to Newport Beach, So
I went from being a full time working actress, like
seventeen hours on a set, loved every second, and my
last show that I was a series regular got canceled.
I didn't get anything in that pilot season. We had
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been trying to have a baby. We ended up doing IVF,
got pregnant with the Times, and I went from full
time working person to a full time stay at home
mom of two.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That was a very difficult transition. I hated it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I hated I hated not having any creative and I
had listen.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Oh, you didn't hate doing it, you hated not having
the other side of it.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Right, Yeah, No, I love my children. I love being
a mother.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And it's funny because I will I'll laugh with some
of my girlfriends that when we all had babies at
the same.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Time, because my friends were all working people too, and
it was very strange.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And as most moms know, you know, when you first
have kids, it's very isolating, you get very lonely, it's
very exhausting, all of those things.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So it was all those things.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
And I remember we had these babies and we were
going back and forth between Newport Beach in LA and
I would do a pilot and then it wouldn't get
picked up. We would do all these things. And you
said to me, if I could give you a crystal
ball and you show you that everything is going to
be fine and someday you will have everything that you
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want and do all the things you want to do,
you'd relax.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And I'm like, right, you don't have a crystal ball.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And it was very hard for me to not care
about this other part of my life. And remember this
was before streaming and making your own content and social
media and you.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Know all of that stuff is it was a much
different time.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I will say, it's still amazingly good advice. Sometimes you
need that fire though, to propel you forward. But what
I will say, I'm so much better at that I
realized the other day is enjoying the process, because like,
you're talking about your TV show, and I'm curious about
your thoughts of this.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You're just talking about a TV show. But we all
know how this goes.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You come up with an idea, you work on a deck,
you pitch out the idea, pitch itite, pitch and pitch
and pitget.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Finally, take meetings, take meetings and nothing. Finally, if you're.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
So lucky, you get someone who's interested. Maybe they want
to develop it, maybe they want.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
To buy it.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That all takes time, takes time, and then in two
years and then you get the thing on the air
and it could go two episodes and they and it
doesn't work and it's dropped.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
The end result is almost inconsequential in comparison to the.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Fact that this is a complete journey.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Of creativity, of inception, creating, the meetings, the meeting of
the people.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
All of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I am so much better at enjoying that whole process
and understanding that then it's over and what yeah, how
about you?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I want to do it. I don't want the process.
I used to so much enjoy the process, and that
was almost enough. I remember when I used to go pitch.
I have pitched twenty five thirty five shows in my career, okay,
And I liked the driving to the s for Zoom,
the driving to meet the studio people, the network, the networks,
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having the media. I thought that was good enough. I
don't want that anymore. I want to do it.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know, I don't really mean it like that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I want to do it too. I'm not saying that
I agree. I'm you and I are in the same boat,
and that I'm not saying just enjoyed the process and
who care.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I don't mean it like that. What I mean is.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
You can't be bugged by the process. You can't be
hassled by it. Things are different now. You don't get
to drive to the studios anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Now it's Zoom meetings.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It is all those studio meetings.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But it takes the glamour off of it, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Sitting in process isn't as cool as it used to be.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Process is not as cool. But I would say I'm
not hassled by it. I'm not stressed out by it,
not worried, like, eh, they don't.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Want it, move on? Cool, you know what I mean?
Like how you'd hang on to it. I don't feel
that way.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well, I think we live in a unique time, which
is great that you don't need a network, you don't
need a STUDI anymore. Like that. One of the main
things I want to do is these sort of short
videos about what works and what doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Like our doctor and missus getting that we're going to do.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
We're going to tell you about things to eat, the
glucose associated with that, whether IV NAD works, peptides, lasers, procedures,
and it's almost going to be like one of these
YouTube short video things. You're gonna get an answer in
forty five seconds. We're gonna do a lot of that.
We're gonna do a lot of other stuff like that.
But we have a unique platform to do that because
(25:09):
I'm an expert, You're an expert.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So fun and I love like we'll be sitting with
people at a dinner or whatever, and I'm just gonna
use creatine as an example, and we'll start talking about
creatine because Terry and I believe creatine is that one
of those supplements everyone should be on, no doubt, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
And we taught well just casually.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Like start talking about creatine, tell our stories about creating,
and I swear to you ten out of ten times,
and by the way, we don't make a creatine in
console beauty, so I'm not trying to sell you anything,
but ten out of ten times, everyone takes their phone
out and says, how many milligrams?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Where do you get it? Which one do you like?
Ten out of ten times.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So Terry and I were talking about it, We're like,
you know what, it's time to bring doctor and missus
guinea pig back. And so that's what we're gonna do it.
We're gonna do YouTube shorts and tiktoks and show you
guys what's out there, because it's like the wild wild West.
I see people posting, and I find this a little scary,
even like people like on my show posting about peptides
(26:08):
and testosterone and all kinds of things. And look, they're
not trying to give medical advice or anything. But you know,
when you have a platform and people are listening, what
is actually working and what's dangerous And so.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
For sure I get to do that with you, because
I wish it doesn't depend on a network saying yes,
here's the funds for it, and we're going to put
it on it this time, this hour and this network.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
And so that I'm doing, I'm going to put up
a poll with someone remind me of what people want
us to test and talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Let's hear what the people want.
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Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well, we're talking about change, right, what's coming up for
us next? I means, what's weird? Is right now? The
same week, separated from twenty four hours? Are shows weird?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Weird? Was that?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
By the way, we did something so funny the other night? Well,
I failed yesterday I shot this commercial which I'm I
allowed to talk about yet, but it was really fun
and I was going to take everyone along.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
With me on the day and then I totally forgot
to film most of it. But this is what we did.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
We went to Stake forty eight last night. I was
curious to see how everyone was going to take Real Housewives.
So one kind of way to look is to go
on the x feed and see what people are saying,
go on different social medias. So we went to Stake
forty eight, we looked at the Twitter feed, We had
drinks and we talked about the show because my show
(28:23):
premiered that night, and Terry's show premiered the night before,
and it was just like kind of a fun thing
to see. People were very excited that the show is back.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes, yes, which was fun and.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Usually with the first episode there's not too many trolls
on there. It was pretty like fine, everyone's just excited
that the show is back and happy to see everyone,
because the first episode of our show is usually just.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
A catch up, Right, what have people been doing? Where
are they?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
They do these fun carousels, which I like, which is
like a few seconds of you and me, a few
seconds of Gene and Dravis, a few seconds of tam
or net.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
But you know, I like that. It's cute.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So that's what we did on premiere night, and we
watched the feed and saw what everyone was saying.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yep, and your show came out too.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Came out the night before.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah. My new show's Plastic Surgery Rewind. Botch presents Plastic
Surgery Rewind And I have no idea how well or
not received it is yet. It's really hard to tell. Now.
In the old days, you could get things called the
overnight ratings and get a sort of an idea of
how many people watched it, and then you would get
the real ratings for like the first twenty four hours,
(29:37):
and then you get the three day ratings. Now nobody
watches it live, well, I guess diehard fans do. Right
now you have to figure out, I think within a week.
So I have no idea whether plastic surgery rewind is
getting interest or not.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I saw some nice articles about it. Yeah, it was
pretty buzzy. They were saying, what did I read odd
our aubry O dat found out? Did he was arrested
while you were filming?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I remember that?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Is that on the show?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah? It's on the show. Yeah, it's interesting. All these
celebrities move into a house. They've all had some surgery,
and then they discussed whether they want to rewind remove
their surgery. If they do, I take them to the
operating room and then we see how it affected their lives.
It was a Remember I worked on that show for
a year before we went into production. Remember that, Yes, yes, yes,
(30:33):
And how weird they would come out at the almost
exact same time as that road.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Helps so bizarre. How many episodes is it eight?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
And so you know, depending on the reaction it'll go
another season, or we'll do Botched again or whatever. Who knows.
The nice thing is botched is still live in a
good way, you know. I look forward to doing more
Botched or botch presents or whatever that's really fun. But
I at the stage of my life I like to
(31:03):
do multiple things. I just don't want to do one thing.
I just don't want to do just surgery. I just
don't want to do just botched or just med legal.
I want to do many, many things with lots of
potential time off.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I mean, speaking of time off, we have like a
lot of trips planned.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, I mean you do have me working not at all.
In July, my office said, you're working three days this month.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Well, listen, you three days. Terry and I are really
good at sitting down and you know, discussing where we're
at and what's important and what we need to be doing.
And we really love traveling. Having said that, we really
love working. So to find that balance is really important,
(31:49):
and find the balance of traveling with the kids versus
traveling by ourselves and all of that.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, you don't amaze meet new topic if you don't
mind how many of our friends don't eat and don't drink.
They reached a certain stage in their lives where they
stopped eating all sugar and stop and don't drink both
and stop drinking all No one, Oh okay, that trip
we just went on Croatia.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Oh two people down that trip.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Two people don't drink alcohol, four people don't eat sugar.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I mean so many people are willing once they've reached
a certain age, seem to be so concerned about preserving
themselves or something.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, I think that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I mean, look, there's obviously definitely some people who you know,
I have a lot of friends like this who feel
like alcohol doesn't serve them anymore, right, and some of them,
I mean that's why I started trying microdosing mushrooms and
all that stuff, because I was like, I had friends
that were doing that instead of drinking.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
That's not my thing.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
But now you're over and over.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'm really I'm just not good with drugs. Yeah, I'm
really not alcohol.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Like, I get it, I understand how to trate it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I like the the the what's what's what am I
looking for?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
The ceremony or ceremony process.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, yes, I like the glasses. I like the look
of it. I like the beverage. I like how I
feel it's that's the tone. It does have the drone.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
But I have to say, even for me, you know,
I had many months this year where I didn't drink
at all.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, but it's just amazing. It interests me how many
people are trying to live a super perfect It's almost
I think it's called esthetic life. Where esthetic I think
so maybe that means skinny, I don't know, but anyway
where esthetic aesthetic aesthetic is how you no no, but
there's a there's a Yeah, there's a term for it
(33:54):
where no sugar, no alcohol, almost like no joy and.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Hedronic Yeah, and uh staticism, esthetic aestheticism, aestheticism?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Was it a ees or as what you say aes
getting back up as aestheticism? Right, Yeah, it's like a
life without any kind of stimulation, almost like perfection.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, if you're getting used different ways, is.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
If you're trained for a usc fight. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Well, people get their highs different ways. Some people get it.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
From they're getting highs.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Endorphins from working out. One of the people you're talking
about is very into fitness.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, very into fitness. Well, that's just part of another person.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
You're talking about won't eat sugar but enjoys martinis.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah. But anyway, people our age that we know of
a great percentage of them are pursuing that esthetic life.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And then we have a bunch of friends that are lushes.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And just and we try to be in somewhere in
the middle.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, I think we've reached.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I mean, I feel like I've reached a pretty good balance.
I love my new workout life. Yeah, and we're going
to talk about that in our YouTube, also about you know,
working working out at different decades of your life, because
I think that is so important.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, No, I like where I am workout wise.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I like where I am with my relationship with alcohol,
I like yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
And food I like it.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah. I like the microdosing of tru zeppetite.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
He loves his.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I love pinjarros my my zep bounds. I love that stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Do you think because of all of the information now
about the cognitive effects and the work they're doing on
Alzheimer's patients and all these different things, do you think
it will become more like a supplement that people will
be getting instead of a weight loss drug.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I don't but I think there will be a boatload
of people who use it for anti aging.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Do you think they'll do a smaller dose for people
that want it just for anti aging and not for
weight life.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I do it a very small dose done every seven
days or every ten days, just to control the noise
and the sugar and reduce the inflammation.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
That's yeah, it's all about all about the inflammation.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, I think micro dosing this stuff's to me. The
problem is the stuff's kind of expensive.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Will it be always though?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, well until it goes generic, which is not going
to be for a bunch of time.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I think why, how do how does something go generic? It?
Is it like music where a song has to be
out for one hundred.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Years before it's but this is less time.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
What's the word before it's public domain?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
So you get it?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Like happy birthday is now a free song? Do you
know when I first was a young actress, you couldn't
sing happy Birthday on.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
A TV show?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Really? Nope, amazing They.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Would sing like for he's a jolly goodfeller.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, I mean, you know a drug comp he spends
tremendous billions in R and D and they're allowed to
be the only one to sell that drug for a
certain period of time, and then after that time it lapses,
they anybody can make it.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So is it a standard amount of time or is
it different for every drug.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I think it's a standard amount of time. Yeah, in general.
But because there was a shortage, if there's a national shortage,
then pharmacies are allowed to compound it, allowed to make it.
And that's why people were getting online all of these
GLP ones, the others.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
There was a shortage, there was.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
A shortage, and then once the drug company says, okay,
there's no shortage anymore, you can get it. We have
unlimited quantity, can't compound, you can't compound it. But they're
still doing it online. So you can still get it online.
But you don't know because a real pharmacy with real
licenses are it's illegal for them to make these drugs,
but you can still get them online. So now you're
(37:54):
selecting out the pharmacies who are like willing to open
up here and make it and sell it and then
are to be subjected investigation.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Scary them. How do you know what they're putting in it?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You don't, So I recommend I just recommend against taking
all of these things compounded.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
What do you think about you know, I've seen a
lot of people selling gummies and stuff that are like
GLP one adjacent sort of things.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Well, there are you know, there's always these supplements, and
we have one berberine that that sort of have like
GLP one effects. Yeah, and they avoid all the side
effects and the expense and so on of the injectibles.
But it depends. I mean, they're as long as they're
sort of based in science, but they're not obviously going
to be as powerful as the prescription drugs. The question is,
(38:40):
you know, who do you get it from? You have
a doctor wh's willing to prescribe you these drugs for
off label indications. Because I take these off label. I
take them for anti aging. I take them for reduction
of inflammation on this microdosing, and it's tremendous, tremendously effective.
I think ultimately, you know, a greater great I mean
(39:03):
a lot of people were taking met forman b anti aging. Yeah,
that was ada. Yeah, I think it's a big deal.
You certainly don't take it for it's indicated really.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
But it has similar properties to the GLP ones, so
it's shutting down the sugars and the inflammation.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Which I think is so great.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
So can you take met foreman and do you pay
ones together?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
I mean, in general, the answer is yes, you can.
For an individual. I'm not giving any medical advice Tony.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You he's not your doctor, but you'd.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Have to check with your doctor. But definitely you can
take those together. You know, there's some sort of side
effects you can get with met form and lactic acidosis
and other things which we don't need to talk about.
But yeah, absolutely, I think they're wonderful together. I take
them together.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
We are going on a family trip on Sunday. Yes,
we're gonna be an Idaho.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah, dah Yeah, Lake Cordelaine.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It's so pretty.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, it's pretty. I'm a little concerned because I like
to work in my little stimulated thing and it's very
very super high end. But it's very same same, so
I'm a little concerned when to get them and go Okay, Well,
remember you.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Were concerned about going on the ship as well, and
that was a great trip.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
It was a great trip, but we were on a ship.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
It was very highlighted.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
I mean, this is yeah, this is very very nice,
but you.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Know, what's nice about this trip, I think is that
I like the way I've planned the whole thing. I
feel I'm so happy that we have so our kids
wanted to bring friends, and I said, that's fine, but
not till halfway through the week, right, And actually it's
even less than that. So we have like four days
alone and three days they have their friends.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
So it's perfect.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
So we can spend four days with the kids running
around doing all the things and enjoying them, and then
their friends can come and we can have some alone
time because honestly, the week, I mean, that's right before
everyone's leaving, because then Kat's going to go to college,
Max is going to go back to Boston, Nicky's going
(41:03):
to move back into his.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
House, and then we just have ace.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, So my concern on a trip like this is,
so you get this is my problem. I get up okay,
and I have to try not to overeat. Yes, and
then when do I have my first cocktail, this is
not good, okay, And then once I break the seal
on the cocktail, all hell has broken.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
List it's just not good. Yeah, I will tell you.
We have another fun trip coming up as well, well.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
That one, So that one I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
So Ace is doing a summer program in Europe at
a college and very excited about it. He founded himself,
applied himself, got in and is doing this very cool
entrepreneur thing for a couple of weeks. And so I thought, God,
that's far. Maybe we should hang out in Europe for
(41:58):
a couple of days, just make sure he's okay, settled.
And that turned into me and Terry going to the
South of France.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, that's which I love. That's going to be insane.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I'm excited for that.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, so we're in terms of again breaking the seal
on the cocktail. When we're in the South of France,
it's like, okay, it's ten am, but what time is
it in Los Angeles?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Oh oh, we're fine. It's like when you go to
the airport, time doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah. One of the things I'm very happy about that
I'm doing that I would recommend people do, is I
It's easy for me to say it's because I've reached
a certain stage of life, but I focus every my
whole day about when am I going to do my
body moving? When am I going to move with the bone.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
You're very good at that.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You're also very good at Terry really keeps up with
the trends. We're going to talk about this on our
tiktoks and yeah YouTube also but about like I was saying,
working out in different decades.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
But also, you know, we're not.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Going to get into it because we know Darry loves
to talk about zone two. But this whole concept of
zone two and training, I realized, you know, people were saying,
maybe a year ago, you're too skinny, You're just skinny.
And what I realized was when I started, you know,
just doing pilates and I wasn't doing the hit training anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
It wasn't lifting.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
And I love how long and lean and you know,
I'm so strong in the core, but I just you know,
recently picked up.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
The weights again and I'm doing all that. So glad
about that.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, I mean, you have to do resistance training men
and women. Women really really important because you get osteoporosis
more easily. You got to preserve your lead muscle mass,
and you've got to do this sort of slow, long,
you know cardio thing. You know, sixty percent of your
maximum heart rate that's called low intensey steady state or
Zone two training, and you've got to elevate your protein
(43:53):
and you should be protein intake and you should be
taking creatine. Everything's like the minimums.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
You know, what are you most excited about for our
alone trip?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
I love the music and these gloves. I love the clubs.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay, So if you've if you've not been to one
of these places, South France, Saint bart there's any of
the places. I'm sure there's I'm sure Greece does this
kind of thing and probably cost the Malfi coast. So
they have these places you go and I've talked about
them before where you go and you have lunch and
it's like a three hour lunch. Yes, food is spectacularly
(44:33):
good and the music.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Is insane so good, and it always ends with the AA.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
There's four songs.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
This four songs.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
There's I guess Rain down and Out, oh h of course,
and then Toto.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
There's always Toto. There's always Dancing Queen. Yes, there's always
Bob Bob.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
What's that one?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Oh yeah, Neil Diamond, Sweet Carola. Those three are definite. Yeah,
there's one more that we're not.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Coming up with.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Well, yeah, but it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
And I remember we were in Saint Bart with Mike
and Nancy and another couple who lives in Saint Bart
and they were laughing about, you know, the music and everything,
because they don't usually go to those kind of places
unless they have.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Friends in town.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
And we were there and but even when those songs played,
they were.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Up and dancing.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
It was so funny.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I'm like, Oh, but you know what's really nice about
these places. Everyone's dressed beautifully, the music's great, the air
yous look good, the air is good.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
It's just so nice.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Centro Pei. I love the beach there where you can
literally walk out a quarter mile and you're still only
up to your waist. It's so nice and it's warm
and it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It's gonna be really hot it gazar.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
No, Oh, it's central to be really hot in Quarterlane.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Oh, it's going to be really hot there too.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yeah, that's gonna be challenging. Are we doing the boat thing?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I meany days were doing the boat thing too.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Got the boat thing going? Do you want to play
golf with Nikki?
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
No.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I arranged some pilates for me and the kids that
like to do pilates I'm excited about you and I are.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Going to hike.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
There is funny that you know there isn't a good
water thing for us at Cordelane. It's like, you know,
let's go in the water. How many times do we
go in the water in Cordline. We don't. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, you and I really don't where.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Zehra pay we go in the water.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
We do.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
It because it's cold.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
The water's cold, but it should be very nice now yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
I'm excited, all right, So talk to me about what
you're looking forward to. So I'm looking because we're like, sorry,
we're like midway through the year, right, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
This is the halfway point. So it's funny.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I was on the phone with my manager the other
day and we like we're talking about the things that
we are going, what's going on right now, and how
we're going into the last half of the year. Like strong,
I feel really excited about things that we're doing and
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
So tell me what that is for you. Here's your
half year check it. What's good? Now?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
What are you excited about? So expanding my practice in
Beverly Hills awesome, okay, Number one. Number two, maintaining a
very thorough extensive workout program here because now I have
more hours because I'm not commuting so much. I look
forward to this new project where we're going to test
(47:38):
things in ourselves and put it out there and teach
people what we were smiled. There's so much bs out there,
there's so much being sold that doesn't work. I look
forward to the possibility of maybe doing a new show
you know that I've always wanted to do. We'll see
if that happens, and you know, just become just continue
(48:00):
to be on a path of health and wellness and
longevity because I'm now in the downward slide where things
that haven't happened yet will happen in the next five, ten, fifteen,
twenty twenty five years. And just making sure I monitor
myself that it so I figure it out before it
figures me out, you know what I mean. And then,
(48:21):
you know, continue having this wonderful relationship with you and
our kids and moving to the next stage of life
and doing a lot of different things and helping people.
What about you.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I love that our son Nick has on his phone
This too shall pass because I you know Tom Hanks,
he's the one that I heard say it, but he was,
you know, in a conversation with other people saying this
too shall pass. That that means good things and bad things.
So when things are bad and you say this two
shall pass, like things will get better when things are good,
(48:52):
this too shall pass, meaning enjoy them and appreciate them
while they're good.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, and don't expect them to always be there, because.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
They won't, so you really have to, which is I
think what I was kind of getting up before about
and enjoying the process of doing shows and stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
It's like this two shell pass.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'd rather be in play than not right.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
So I.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Had a pretty good season on Housewives, I think. Obviously
I haven't seen it, so we'll talk to me in
twelve episodes and I'll let you know if I feel
the same way. But I really felt more like myself
this year.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
This is also since I've been back.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
I feel like the first year someone wasn't lying about
me on the show, which was very nice and refreshing
and allowed me to really just be which was nice.
I obviously most important to me is our family, so
my relationship with you and I love all the things
(49:53):
that we're doing together, and the trips were taking and
the businesses were working on and even new products we're doing.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
It's like, it's exciting. I love all of that.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
And as a mother, you know, they say you're only
as happy as your unhappiest.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Child, and oh my good emotional gat and you know
this too, shell pass. But right now they're all good.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, they're all pretty good.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
They're all pretty good. I change, Yeah, of course it does.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
It's mercurial. You know, that's kids, it's parenting. You know,
it's up and down. But I like that all four
of them are on the precipice of something interesting and unique,
all four of them, and I love watching that and
being a small part of it and guiding and helping
(50:44):
and seeing them fly.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I just love that that feeds my soul.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
And you know, personally, I you know, I have no
idea what's going to happen with these projects we're working on,
and there's TV things and there's podcasting and there's all
these different fun things, and I'm excited to see how
everything shakes out. And yeah, I think I'm just I'm
(51:15):
in a you know, you said it before, and I think, yeah,
I'm a very good, happy thing. I mean, I wish
my hormones were balanced every day, that would be nice.
This menopause thing sucks, really, man, I feel all you girls.
There's this girl on TikTok Melanie, and she created this
club that we do not care a club. It is
(51:35):
the funniest We do not care that we forgot we
were gonna say when we walk into the room. We
do not care that we're not wearing you know, pants
with zippers anymore.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Like it's just so.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
And it's a huge community and millions of people women
all saying what we do not care about anymore because
we're at this stage of life. It's brilliant and I
love it and I love the community she's created, and
it's freed me up a bit to.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Be like, yeah, you know what, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I I'm making myself happy, which I think I haven't
done always.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
That's good. Well, you've done at ten amazing years here
at podcast one. You've done an amazing job with incredible content.
And I mean, I have an idea of what's coming
next for you, and I think it's very concrete and
very on and very interesting. And I love you and
I love where you're going. And I think for you,
(52:28):
this is certainly one of the most exciting, the most
exciting time in your life since you know, you were
doing your own show on NBC, well CVS at NBC.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
I think those days were easier in a way because before.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
We had kids.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah, it was just that was it.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Our relationship and our separate careers. Yeah, so it was
a little more binary, right, It was easy to track,
and you know, we were on a good train, projectory
and all that.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
And then after all these years.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, I mean, but you know, you you are a
very experienced, successful CEO of your and our lives. You
dial you you hold many hats, a lot of businesses,
a lot of resources, and you're in control. And I
don't know how you do it. I have, like, you know,
(53:26):
I'm like the chief, you know, technical officer at your company,
and I just have to do one thing and focus
on how does the how does this object work? Can
I make this object better? All I have to do
is work on this where you have to work on
the You're like the tim cook of our lives. You
have to manipulate everything you do. It's excuse me so well,
(53:49):
and I think I'm so thankful for you and grateful
for you, and grateful to be just one of your
humble servants in your life and be able to participate
in Heather Debro's world because Heather brose world. I'm telling you,
ever get a chance to visit, or live in, or
experience Heather to Bro's world. It's a giant, multi million dollar,
(54:10):
totally interesting enterprise with a lot of facets to it,
and it's fun and cool, and I invite you to
stay and be a part of it in the future.
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Well that was really sweet. I'm crying again. Both is
all very bittersweet. You know, a lot has happened this
last ten years.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
Yeah, and this is I think the sweet spot. So
let's do it. Let's move on and explode through to
the next phase. You know, Stoicism. By the way, if
anybody wants to, if you're at a phase of your
life where things are not good, things are good, things
are changing, I invite you to go online and go
(54:51):
anywhere and just look up stoicism, the spiritualism of Stoicism,
and just read about it, see videos on it. It's
a really healthy way to live your life.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Thank you. For being here my pleasure. I love you,
I love you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
I can't even do this, but thank you all for
being with me for the last decade.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
I am so grateful for all.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Of you again, so grateful for everyone here at podcast one.
Thank you for listening, for supporting, for working with me
all of the things.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
I am just.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
You know, humbled, honored to have been here for a decade.
I'm excited for you all to see what is about
to happen and what we're doing next.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
I'm super excited.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
It's completely new, different, interesting, and I'm hoping you'll come
along with me.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
And to end things, I am going to give a
nod to the fabulous Jonathan Blooth, who wrote a theme
song for Heather Debrow's world ten years ago, and he's
just wonderful and sent it to me and you know,
it's just the best. So we're gonna play it out
with that.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Bye, everyone, wor
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