INSTANT REPLAY: But I'm Delta One! (Featuring Laci Mosley)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Black Fat Felm Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio
and Doctor John Paul LLC. Hey everyone, and welcome to
another episode of the Blackfat Felm Podcast, where all the
intersections of identity are celebrated. I am one of your hosts,
John also known as the Doctor John Paul, and I
see the cost of gas and them eggs creeping back up,

(00:21):
Joe Biden playing in my face. I see you, girl.
I know you know that, I know I see what
you're doing, and I want to say that I'm not
here for the mess. I really am. Not you trying
to play me and act like I don't understand that
gas went from like three fifty nine to four seventy
nine and under a month. Don't play with me. Don't

(00:42):
play with me, Joe Biden. I'm gonna stay on them too,
And I'm gonna say this real quick before we jump
into the show. Joe Biden, I'm coming for that ass
because you promised me that you was gonna get rid
of these loans and now I'm seeing the little, these
little what is it the letters that they sin to
remind you that your payment's about to get about to
kick back up. No, I'm noticing them too, Joe Biden,

(01:03):
I see you, Uncle Joe. I'm just yes, I'm coming
into this episode gast because he keeps playing our face
and you would think that you would think I would
save this to the end of the show, but I
was coming in hot because I'm noticing it. But anyway,
as you could tell, I'm feeling better. I'm on my
second rounds of antibiotics, and a girl is slowly getting

(01:25):
back to herself. How are you, queen Jojo? I was
not expecting you to come out the gates like that,
like you said.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Fucking no, man, Pam.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
We're gonna start right right here right. I have ignored
my email that gets my loan information.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Bitch, I'm like things reminder because I thought I thought
that's what I was just.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I just thought it was deferred in definitely, Like, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
They set the end of July. They won't they money July?
Je girl, okay, well said my payment playing real quick?
Oh my yes.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
And secondly, since I'm there with you, I'm trying figure
out where miammune system, where it went from my body
to a baby, because I'd be getting sick.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Whever often than not, and I am over it like gone.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Are the days, And truly a bitch should cough on
my face pre pandemic, a bitch should cough on my face,
and I would not I would not be phased.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I would not have given one thought about in these days.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
If I call on my face bitch the way I
last saw my to last on my eyeballs, put soap
on my nose, wash my mouth out with it. It
is too it is too much. It's funny because I'm
gonna say this and then we're gonna go ahead and
enter our guests. So I had to call Kaiser. I
have killer Kaiser. Everybody knows that. And I had to
call Kaiser to ask them about something recently, and they said, like,

(02:44):
you know how they have that little thing that they
know that they played before you speak to like a representative,
and it was like, respiratory viruses are on the rise,
and it's like, no, Doug girl, RSB is trying to
kill us.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
K is MO.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's mutating and it's turning people's eyes into light like
this new I've seen. I was actually at the hospital,
so when I went to go get my second round
of antibiotics, I was at the hospital with someone who
was I would assume was affected by that new version
of COVID. And when I said that it was scary,
how awful, their eyes looked like they looked like somebody

(03:23):
busted them in both of their eyes and broke the
It was bad like their eyes were. It was Sorry
for triggering people on the mic, but I just I
did want to say, like, it is whatever, something is
going around and it is getting people, and y'all got
to put on the mask and stay in the house.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Just because they because now they no longer require masks.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
No, no, and Kaiser and that was that was the
last on defense side.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I was like, thank god Kaiser still has masks and.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Now they and people the way people be coming in
this bitch coughing up a storm.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yep, bro, you know what it is.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
It is year. It is year three hundred.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
We're gonna die. I keep saying that. I said, we
are literally on our way out of here, and I'm
doing the best that I can to stay above ground.
But all that to be said, you know, we're just
doing the best that we can and we're trying to
make it look cute while we do it. But anyway,
all that to be said, I am really excited because
we have a guest joining us who has always been
a friend in my head for a very long time. Yes,

(04:25):
literally a friend in my head. And so when I
saw that their name was on the list to be
on the show, I was like, good golly, Miss Milett,
I made it to big time. So I want to
say I started rocking with her when she was on
the pop series Florida Girls. That that was that, Yes, baby,
I know you see you see I see yes girl,
I was. I was a fan back then. But since

(04:48):
then they have gone on to be on Insecure, Single Parents,
a Black Lady's sched show, and now they are hyper
on Harper On I Carly. I was trying to say
both of those.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Had their hopper as well.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, well anyway, I'm happy you up girl. You might
also know her as the scam Goddess, and I am
so excited that they are here with us on the show.
Miss Lacey. Mostly, how does you do with door?

Speaker 4 (05:13):
John? What an intro? Do you want to do my funeral?
You should do my funeral? We are going and you
gotta do my funeral because I was so cute. That
was really good. And then Jordan, I see those nails.
You do my body?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yes, I live, I live? Who go through the body?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:37):
I did the question to be like who did the body?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Like I need to know who did the body?

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Like we're did you see her her body?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Who get the okay.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
From the side. So it's like, I'm my face is up.
But you get to you get to ask, and you
get like the whole by like full legs to.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
My casket cut out, have me face down up and
have a cut out with my asses.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Not your booty cheeks out like Prince Julia literally from
the casket booty cheeks. We are starting this show off right,
Oh my god, We're gonna get to our to our
opener something as we always do our weekly ultimation Tiss
Campbell with our still Here segment and the fact that

(06:30):
we are all still here in this world.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Until until until.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Yes what could I recently learned the origin of that
teacher came meme and I was like, okay, she was
really talking to her truth and we was.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
It's still funny, but I'm like, SI, I try to
have a little a.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Little bit right. I respect the hustle. However, it is funny.
That is why the second call still here it is funny.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
But for this week, still here.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Since we talk a lot about character this week, I
want to begin by asking all of us here, what
is the most out of character things.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
You have done and what my bro brought brought out
of you.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Reminder, it doesn't have to be anything bad, but it
is and it's juicy. You let us know, okay, God,
and then then I'll pass it to Lacy, and then
We'll pass it to Gen.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So for me and I share this recently, but now
I feel like.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Anyone who spells my name j O R d O
n actually knows who I am, and it's just.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Fucking with me.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Pleasie.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I will a little bit to the story.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Typically at work, I will get an email maybe once
once in the blue moon, with my name spelled j
R d O one. My name is Jordan j R
d A N and so usually I like, let I
go wa waterffer ducks back, as j Ponson says. But
in the past two months I have been getting multiple
repeated emails, sometimes from the same person. After I sign

(08:02):
my name, after I respond to them with name in there,
that will just say j O R d O N
and so so finally, so someone so so like someone
someone reposts on Instagram, right, like my name is in
the email. My name is the email, like this whole
long thing right, and I'm live. I'm live, laugh laughing
it because reliable content. So I have a whole story
right about how people from the name wrong and I'm

(08:24):
so mad about it.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
And so now fast, thank you, come on.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Me. Okay, fast forward to me. Last month at Glossier,
get in my lip loss on. I was, I wanna
give you some look loss and we got two packs today.
The click bosses always popping and this girl bless her soul.
For those who don't know I Glossier, you have to
give your name first before and then then like then
you you you pay for it, and then they come
out and bring bring you back out to you.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
So the girl says what's your name?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
And I say Jordan, and in front of my face
she sells it J D O N. And immediately my
and my gut reaction is are you fucking with me?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
She said excuse me, and I said do you follow me?
And she was like what do you mean? And I
was like on Instagram do you follow me?

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Me?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Acting like do you know who I am?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I like, I'm some actual influencer somewhere. Do you know
who I am?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
She?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
This girl had no idea who I was or whatever.
She just my name is spelled j R d O N.
But I real.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I wrolled into her like I'm a real ass influencer
or a famous bitch. And I was like, wow, that
was so out catch it for me. But I just
wanted to know what ken our listeners tell us. Are
there people out there who spell their name that way?
I just want to know, Yes, I just want to
know if I'm right or wrong.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
I have to tell you because I went to a
coffee shop last week and the guy who was that
was out she Jordan, and I just said, how do
you spell your name?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And he said obviously with an A? And I was like,
I was like, oh my god too. I was like thanks,
I was like, thinks Sam.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
He The first thing he said was the first thing
he said was yeah, I don't know why people fellow
so and oh that's just dumb.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I was like, it's you see me?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
You see me? Do you also follow me on Instagram?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
You group? You know, you have to know, you know,
we know you've seen this before.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
You seen before anyway, So that's how I was out
of a character lazy? How about you?

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Okay, So the first thing I came to mind was
like the last time I like cursed people out in public?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
But then I was like, is that out of character?
Like I'm like cancer, And it's.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Also aries in my mood, like I don't know, I
cut the people out of maybe not as out of
character for me as I thought. I'm very good at it.
I've taken like what like six years of improv. I've
been doing improp for like ten years straight from because
I'm gonna call, and so it's like I got in,
like I can fucking refuse the shreds real quick.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yes and bitch.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, yeah, yes and bitch yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Only a habit of like coming out of character like that.
But I okay, so this is what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
So I remember one time I was in Texas.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
I just had to be maybe like, oh god, it's
more recent than I that it makes it more embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
How they sent is I maybe like two years ago?
But I just like, I'm a.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Black woman in America, dark skin, and so people just
automatically assume I don't deserve things.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
It literally happens everywhere.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
So I just took a red Eye back from New
York City and I was like flying first class, like
the Delta one, like bedship whatever. And of course I
go up. This white woman tries to get in front
of me, and the guy's like, hold on one second,
I have to take care of her, and I was like,
I'm Delta one.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
No, I'm saying that ship.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Then he looked at her ship and her ship he
was like, oh man, we haven't even started calling you
a group yet.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
So this bit who wasn't han't even been called my
black as Because.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Because I got in the business class line to go
up through the little thing, I got clear, but it
looks shorter to go through business class. This little old
man yelled at me like you gotta get in this line.
And then for a second, I don't know why I
got in the line. And then I saw these white
people going u where I was supposed to be going.
I was like, my god, damn it. And then I
went up there. I almost take that old man in
his chest. So I was already angry. So then when
he did that, I was like, I don don't want
I'm sorry. And then like they led me through right,

(12:20):
so not get on the plane. This is a black lady.
I'm like, hey, we're's seven C Like I need to
sit down, and you know, I don't know which side
of the place.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
It's a big plane, so I'm like, which side of
the plane do I need to get on?

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Because you know, if you're leaving a big ass plane
like that from JFK, if you go on the wrong side.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Oh unless you're about to do that jungle gym and
you know your way to the other side, YOURSEF. So
I'm trying to make sure I'm not interrupting the floor
of traffic. This lady. She was like, oh, yeah, down
that way, and I was like, okay, I go down
that way. It's A and B.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I was like, here we go.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Did you not look at the ticket when I said see,
you just thought I was in roasty like in the
back of the fucking playing bitch like fucking So then
the white man who was sitting there, I was like,
I'm so sorry it's the white man, but they don't
think I deserve to be in first class. And they
told me to go on the wrong side.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
You over you cracking up.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
He was like, sometimes you know I'll say this not
to carry you off, but sometimes you have to like
haul it the way that it is when you see it,
because that's the only way you can make sense of
what's happening in that moment. So I love that you
did that.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Like obviously in this moment, this is like yesterday. So
I'm more evolved than I was two years ago. But
two years ago I got to the point of bad
customer service and just I was so tired of being
treated as like terrible. That was like, what can I
do to like make myself seem like I deserve more things?
Like I used to go to the if I had
to go to the er, Honey, I was bringing the
Chanel bag, like I was looking like I'm an expensive

(13:53):
black I'll sue you like whatever.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I'm literally lectured nurses at three am.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
When they don't want to give me paid medicine, and
I was like, what is your name? Actually, don't worry
about it because there's logs. So I'm just gonna make
sure we get that down that you did not need
my healthcare because you know, black women are like the
rad mortality for us in the hospital is extremely high.
So I'm just gonna sue you you start talking like that,
oh the girls and they're like she was like, let
me go down and get the nurse Jackie.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Yeah, go get go, get the punch of.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Get nurse Jackie. Get machine screaming.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
But the end of this is now I'll just be like, hey, no,
treat me better, like and that's awkward, but whatever, fuck it,
like I'm not going to eat it. But before I
used to try out different textices, so like the person
thing right or I remember I was too I'm too
wrong to have been doing this. But I needed to
rent a car when I was in Texas and I
was like, okay, well I'm not like.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
I needed a good deal on it or whatever. And
I was like, I'm not gonna ever look white, and
this rich thing isn't really working. They just think I'm
sucking a wrapper British. That's because.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yes, Darling, yes, darling.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, I wondered to get up great because.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Great will be a bit just a bit more, a
bit longer.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Giving giving Kelly Trenny from Insecure when she.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Was serious and.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
With me, so yeah, that was me out of character
and I was like, what I went through with it
the whole way.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
They gave me the keys that I went to the conment.
Just propab you so much, nice, nice.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
So much. You are officially one of my favorite People
were sharing that story because I'm Delta one. That's that's
a movie. I was gonna stay before I share my story.
This reminds me so shout out to our friend of
the show XD XD. Whenever he has an issue with
a company, he will change his profile picture to a

(16:05):
white person so that the company will respond. And he
said every he said, it always works. He said, that
is one of the things. Yeah, he has. Literally if
he has any problem with the company, he will go
online change his avatar both on like his Instagram and
on his Twitter, so when people google him, they'll see

(16:27):
a white man and they respond quicker. And he said,
that's how he gets most of all his stuff online.
I think, and I might be lying. He had a
really when he moved, he had something happen with best Buy,
and that's how he got everything resolved with best Buy
was by switching his avatar. I mean, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
I won't lie like I've used like my blackness in
those cases sometimes like I had that series wouldn't take
back an air conditioning in college, like an air conditioning
unit that I didn't need anymore because it was like hot,
it was cold outside, and so they weren't like taking
it back or giving my money, and so I got
on it.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
I was like.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Never, I have never screamed like this in my life.
I was for you, we were all this is because
she thinks something funny. I am literally in tears. Why
you said serious?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Seriously?

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Like Kanye West has said, Sears does not care about
black people, made.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
A consorted effort knowledge.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Conditioners screaming.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
So for me, I'm usually that girl that likes to
I will think stuff in my head and I won't
say anything. But recently there was this I'm gonna say
woman because I don't want heat. There was a woman
who came into a store and she and she was
not white. I want to make sure to make that
very clear. She was not white. She came into the
store through a time I was at a USPS and

(18:03):
or the UPS store and she came in and I
guess she was When you take stuff so you could
take stuff back to Cols, I don't know if you
all know that, but when you take stuff from Amazon
back to Coles, they just take it whatever kind of
way you want to take it. But when you take it.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
To the Amazon, to Coals or Amazons and so let
me walk you through it.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
So if you buy a rug from Amazon, you can
take it back to Coals and Coals will ship it
for you, no question. That's Coals, okay. And you don't

(18:41):
like the shirt anymore, instead of boxing it back up
and having to like figure out where you can drop
it off at Amazon, you usually can just drop it
off out of Coals and Coles will send the shirt
back for you boxless.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
So for our listeners who didn't know that that's the thing,
but they also have the same option at UPS. However,
when you drop it off UPS, it has to be
in the original box and it has to be taped up.
So I was at UPS doing something else and there
was a woman who came in with a big like
carpet and she didn't have it boxed, nor did she
have tape. And so the lady was trying to explain

(19:16):
to her, we don't have the same process that Coles has.
You have to basically box it up and tape it yourself.
So the woman buys a box, but she basically was
trying to get them to give her the tape and
she and she literally, when I tell you, this woman
was about to flip this ups upside down over this tape,
and something in my spirit just like jumped out and

(19:36):
I said, when like she was all done screaming and
having her little tantrum, I just looked at her and
I said, you feel better? Sis, Like, do you feel
better that you just shit it all over these people's day?
And I don't know what that was, but just in
that moment, it just felt so good to just kind
of be like, yeah, I checked her, and she just
kind of looked at me and like like stopped off
with her with her unboxed carpet.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
I'm so goofy yelling and then not getting what you
want and so I have to lug this like big
ass a ladder run now.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
And that's exactly what happened, because it was a big
ass rug and I just was kind of like, you
feel better, girl, you feel good? And I could see
the ups people looking at me like, thank you so
much for saying that, because I can't say that, but
it's always funny to me because I'm that girl that'll
do that. I will go up and I will say
what I know the cashier wants to say, because I
know ain't nobody gonna check me. So that's kind of me, like,

(20:31):
that's just kind of one of the things I really
enjoy doing. But anyway, all that to be said, we
have to pay some bills. But when we get back,
we are going to get into this week's segment of
being your recovering people pleaser more in a sassin. All right, everybody,
So this week our conversation was inspired by your tweets, Lazy.

(20:54):
So I was doing a little bit of digging. Yes
I am that girl. I was all my life, well.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
How do they know?

Speaker 5 (21:02):
That's like something I've been dealing with, And I'm like, oh,
oh god, it okay.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
So I got on my master and I was putting
together the show flow and I saw the tweet about
how you wanted to tell your nail tag that you
didn't like all the extra she was doing to your nails,
but didn't have the heart to tell her, And I
was like, that is a perfect topic. Because even for me,
as somebody who is very much like, very self actualized

(21:28):
and I'm really cautious about my money, there'll be times
like I'll take my car to get it washed and
they'll do something to it, and I'll say, oh, that's the
extra twenty dollars. And I don't want to be like
I didn't ask for that, Like, can't you just wash
my card away? Then I asked you to wash my car.
I'm like, you try to do all this extra stuff
to it. But sometimes it's something in me just like, oh, well,
they might need the extra money, so let me just
go ahead, let them do it, right. I find this

(21:49):
to be a conversation that creeps up specifically for a
lot of us who are queer in conversations, because throughout
our lives we're constantly having to please people based on
our identity. I wanted to have this conversation with you.
I know you're an actress, and I know that you
are in and out of different minds and stories and
things of that nature, and so I wanted to kind
of ask you kind of start this conversation by first

(22:12):
thinking about the idea of people pleasing and like, how
might that impact the way you see yourself outside of
the roles that you take. So let's let's start there,
and then we'll kind of like dive into other stuff too.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Wow, that's that's so funny. I mean, I did tweet this.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
I'm currently wearing nails that I hate, like you can't see,
but like they're stickers. Like this fucking shit she's been
on top of it is a sticker and it makes
me so mad because I just wanted clean, like like
light pink nails, and I wanted them to be shorter than.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
This, but she's like, this is as short as I'll go,
and I'm like, but I need a type, Like you know,
I've been with her for three years.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
And she's the best in the game when she does
everybody Chloe, Halley, jayl you name it, like she's so good.
But like, I think you've taken me for a ride,
which is why I don't go in. I gotta go
once every three weeks because she'd be taking me for
a ride when I tell you, like these nails poles are.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Like like just for the hands, like.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
You want it off? What okay?

Speaker 5 (23:11):
That's put like stones And then like the only time
I can get her not to do this ship is
when I'm like, oh, it's for work, Like I have
to have my lesbian nails.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
So they have to be really, really sure it's for work.
It's for work, for my job. And she's like, okay,
if it's for work, then I'll do it. But like
my person is like, I don't respect them, suffer asked
for things.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
And she was like, no, that'll be ugly, and I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's like a bully. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
And even this, I tried to stop it. I tried
to stop it, and.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
I was like, before she did the little sticker, I
was like, you don't have the one I like, and
the rest of them don't look good, so like let's
just pay them and like keep them natural. And she
was like, well, I already put the coat on for
the sticker. That has to happen next, and I was like,
I don't. Then it almost funny, like so she does
it right, She's doing a little sticker thing or whatever.
It looks like very complicated whatever. Some lady from across

(24:08):
the nail salon is like watching this whole process happen.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
So when my nails are done, I'm like, oh, I
kind of like them.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
I hate them, and I'm like and then this lady
walks over and she was like I saw her doing
like the sticker thing or whatever, like can I look
at your nails.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
And like, see like how it turned out, and so
I showed them to her. She's like, m hm, silence.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
And then walks away, Am hollery, I love that for you.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
And then people pleaser.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
You can't just be like, oh, I'm not gonna like
I'm gonna tell her like it was so much comp
in my life as a performer, as someone who is
their own boss, who has to like advocate for themselves,
as a black woman who has to shout I have
delta wanted.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
People like too much conflict. I need a break, ye,
I kind of let it happen because I'm like, I'm
tired of fighting. I fight all day long. And so
when she was.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
On maternity leave, I started going to her sister, right,
just for a little bit m hm, same saloon. Her
sister just as good as she is. We don't have
to force, like having polite conversation. I asked for what
I want, she gives it to me. She's never pushy.
And so now I'm like, I know that she doesn't
work my many lady now can't work thursdays, right.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Her sister does. So there's the lady who does my pedicures.
So I'm gonna start going only on Thursday Thursday.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
The work is too hard. I have to go with
on Thursdays.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I'm so sorry, girl, I'll never see you again.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Yeah, it's just my job. It's only available with you
not But.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
What was that again?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Oh it's it's Tuesday now.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Same, I can't do Tuesday. Damn. I'm so sorry about that.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
I could come.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's crazy, man, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
That I am screaming you bring up, But you bring
up a really good point, I think real quick. I
think the one thing I hear you saying is around
people please, and we can move on. The concept of
people pleasing. For a lot of us is we just
are so tired of constantly always having to argue and

(26:30):
fight with people that some days you're just like, fuck it,
I'm gonna just I'm gonna just sit with it. I'm
gonna just have to just eat it because I don't
have the energy to keep fighting.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
And I'll take it a step I've recently been getting into.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
It's very difficult for me because I love and respect
my parents and my upbringing and everything, and so it's
been very difficult for me to criticize the things that
have contributed to the way that I operate as an adult.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
And because part of me is like, as you know.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Someone who I ain't get it out the look I'm
from the suburbs, but like I'm still a black woman,
you know what I mean. So there's plenty of it
was I got out the garden, you know, I gotta
I got out the botanical tiny okay, maybe, but we
were still around some dirt. Okay, it was fertilizer dirt.

(27:17):
And like realizing that sometimes there wasn't a lot of
room or space for my emotions. I constantly felt like
I had to achieve very highly to feel worthy of things.
Like a lot of my life. I felt like even
with comedy, like I'm a very kind of guarded person,
but you feel like you know stuff about me because

(27:39):
I show you a little bit and I do you know,
I'll do comedy or I'll listen to you, or we'll
have a humorous moment, and so you walk away from
it feeling like you met a fun person, but in reality,
you don't know shit about me, And it's like protection
and so and I realized it stems from the fact
that I lived in the space where everything felt like
the end of the world. Like I remember once time

(28:00):
I got to be and one of my parents was like, so,
do you want to go to the military, and like
what's serious? And I was like so, like what like
and it's just like that was how I live, And
so I was counsel president. I was class president at
the same time. Then white people made me give one
up because they were like, other people have to achieve
things too.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
I was like, well then they should have won the boat.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I don't know, but I kept but right right right like.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
Cheerleader, ran track like everything, like because I was the
only way I could get out of my house. So
I was sheltered, and I never felt like there was
a lot of room for me to be, like to
have emotions, like so many times if I was about something,
I was told to get over it or fix my
face or smile or whatever. So then that became something
ingrained in my personality as an adult that I'm slowly

(28:45):
now systematically debunking or like you know, breaking apart where
it's like I deserve my money, like you were talking
about with the car washtrow, Like I deserve my money.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
I don't need to overto I don't need to pay
you extra.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
I don't need to pay for shit that I don't
fucking want and I don't fucking like.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
And it's hard. I'm not there.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yet, but I am slowly, like each day taking away
something that I was doing to try to make myself
feel worthy to other people, when in reality, a lot
of times when you say yes when you mean no,
you're just saying no to yourself, And like, why am
I just myself all the time? So like I think
the people pleasing thing comes from that. It's like you
want to be liked, you want everything to be copaesthetic.

(29:24):
I'm very much a high alert person, Like I'm always
looking around like if somebody mad, does their face look weird?

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Has the energy changed? Like I'm afraid all the time.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Please continue to keep dragging me.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
But that's the fear that's weird from. It's like you're
afraid that your safety is in jeopardy.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
And for us, it's like queer people as you know,
people of color, you know, as people who don't identify
in the same spaces as like you know, as many
people in this country. That is a real threat. So
we're constantly on high alert in different ways for that
threat and trying to ingratiate ourself in this fucked up
society in a way that people like us more, maybe

(30:01):
like not try to kill us. So yeah, it's like
it steems a little deeper. So I was like, what's
I figured that? I was like, all right, bet, now
I know where it comes from. Now I can start
to fix it, because I do think as an adult,
you're responsible for your own healing, Like, yeah, you can.
You need to figure out where it comes from so
you can assess it and address it. But it is
still your responsibility. You can't put it to anybody else

(30:24):
an adult.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh baby, you said a word, that said a word. Well,
I love, love, love this topic, and I appreciate you
so much for bringing up the idea of likability because
I always think about how much respectability and likability to
play into this and how much.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
We're taught to shrink ourselves.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
It's like shrinking is a shrinking or taking up less
space is the ultimate form of people pleasing.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
It's how I see it, and like place it's relatable.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Okay, no, but the first time I got acrylic, I
had asked.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
For seletrow nails, and this thing gave me hubcaps and
the way she was like the way she the way
she was like, do you love it?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
And I was like, no, yes she did. She did
this little like cosmic cosmic flair, give me a whole
solar system.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
My fingers in the fucking shape of a tablet, like
the way, the way, the way. My mama was like,
if you don't like them, then like why'd you say
say ye never you come?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You come here every week? If I said notable?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Like your ungrateful ass son, who was like, man, fuck
you based for these damn nails. So I just like, okay,
So I like, I thank you so so much for that,
because I'm like, I feel singing in this moment and
you would not do.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
We're here and Jeordan, I'm taking a step forwards with
you with the nails because I think this is so
weird and maybe it's just a specific exercise for us
and people pleasing, but like nails are also like they're
not permanent. But when you get in a crilic or
if you get a gel egs or something that's like
fuse your nail and it's not the right way. Yeah,
it's not like they can just like take the acelephone
and wipe it off and fix it.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
You don't need it for another hour if you demanded.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yes, yes, I've been in a situation where I got
my nails done and the girl didn't know. So there.
I don't know if you've all seen, but that new
what is it called. It's like a two tone. It's
a chrome. They have to put the chrome on. They
have to like they used like a cue tip, and
they put the chrome on, and then they have to
seal it and then you have to put it under
the machine again. And you well, I had a girl

(32:31):
to dine, yeah, the magic, so yeah, and I had
a girl do mine and it ended up not looking
like when when it was all said and done, I
was looking at the clock. I had been there for
three hours. I was like, I'm not sitting here for
another hour for to fix it, right, And so I
left and I was just like, oh, you know, I'll
get over it. In my mind, I'm going I'll get
over it. I got home and my husband said, what
happened to your nails? And I was like, ah shit,

(32:53):
I gotta go back. So like things that you know
you can't know because someone else saw it. That's the
other thing. People don't take any sideration too, Like now
you got to go back and sit at the Neil
Tech place for another hour and a half for them
to fix it, you.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Know, But they've been a good reminder.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Looking at these ugly ass nails on my journey, I've
been like, yeah, I'm gonna stand up for myself, like
I won't let this happen to me.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Ever again, I won't let this happen. It's so trivial.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
But I'm like, it's such a representation of my entire life,
like money, like like how many people my family are
friends that I give money to?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
How many trips that I paid for? Like how much?
Like why don't I respect the hard work that I
fucking didn't get where I'm at?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Like exactly right, exactly because exactly that, because I was
just said that your point about it being trivial, like why,
like what why is it trivial to know that you
deserve something nice to do for yourself? Like why is
it trivial to like to want to want to spoil yourself?
Is how I think about it so so much, And
I'm also to ask you like in the moment, like

(33:58):
in the moments where where you like catch yourself people pleasing,
Like I'm just curious to ask maybe in real time,
like how there been moments where you have.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Caught it and like we have caught it and stopped it,
like you know, like versus versus the nail tech where
you just like it's fine. You know, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Like how how how how different months were?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Actually it's not fine and Union changed this.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
I'm struggling to think of when I tell you this
is very fresh, like the fact that John's that he
saw my tweets and was like, you know, like I'm
very much at the very beginning, like they just shot
the gun and we just started running the race.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Ain't nobody even offered me water yet? How I am
in the marathon?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Like like I hadn't even seen them. They offer people
with a marathon No buffins, that's it.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
No, No, we can still see the ribbon, we can
still see the starting line.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I haven't been cut yet. You haven't even started.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
But you know what I will say today Like I
used to tip like a lot on Uber eats, like
at least like I talked about my friends and then
I was like, what's a good tip, like if you
because they drove for like Uber Eats or gordash and
stuff for a little while, and like I drove for
DoorDash when I moved to LA for two days, which
was long enough for me to get like ten dollars
from that lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
And I was like, yeah, I lost wages.

Speaker 8 (35:35):
I was like, I'm like, I was like, I'm still
gonna type because I noticed, but yeah, I asked him,
was like, I.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Was like, I've been taking like ten dollars because I
have to like come in the building and.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Go up like that's my starting tape, like no matter
what I get.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
And then he was like, yeah, that's like kind of crazy,
like you could like I was like, that's my start
so it's like that could be trickle a and like
that's like a third of the meal and he was
like that's kind of weirk, like you can.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
And that's okay, And I was like.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Okay, So today I ordered some food and I was
like twenty percent.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, you hit the third button, yeah yeah, And I
mean it was still a good tip.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Like I've never shorty when I worked in the service
industry forever, but.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
I've overshipped my whole life because of that, and also
because like we're a black woman, like people don't give
you a good service because I think you're not gonna
tip and look back to what you said, Jordan, just
really quickly, because I know y'all are moving on to
the next thing. But the question that you said about like, oh,
what have you started to see yourself doing?

Speaker 4 (36:35):
I was like, uh nothing.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
I read like I'm got a healing Jordan.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
You're like, I wasn't going.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
I'm like, uh it right now, like I be a fraud,
Like I'm gonna be trying to like it's yeah, sometimes
you just realize some ship and you gotta get on it.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
You know, I just stepped on the bike.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
But there is a baby step moment that I just
realized I was in Joshua Tree, like trying to find
myself or some shit faver.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
And we had all these people come.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
It was just me and my best friend, and we
had all these people coming to this beautiful.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
House and it was just us there.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
She's also a black woman and like chefs and like
yoga instructors, and we really wanted to hire like, you know,
people who looks like us like and so for the
most part, excellent experience. But we did have one chef
who was like so bad, Like when I tell you
like so bad, it was comical, like he was a stammer.
He put a whole thing of like garlic clothes in

(37:41):
olive oil, and he stuck it in the oven and
turned the oven on so that the house would smell
like garlic, even though he was not gonna cook nothing
with that. He just gave the smell of things we're
getting cooked that we're gonna taste good, like wild shit.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
The food was over salted, it was cheap, it was.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Not cooked very well, and I was so angry.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
And you want my food. It's a different situation, you know,
we know, Paige, right, not cheap?

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, and then Josh come on now.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, okay, we're gonna travel for it, right, I know.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Okay, so then hey we do this whole thing. I'm like,
I'm like, but I'm like, I'm gonna stand up for myself.
So I tipped him twenty percent in cash.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
But when I put the cash in his hand and
said that food is really salty and overcooked and it
wasn't good and you should work on your menu.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Sometimes people need to know. Sometimes people need to know.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
I live.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I hope you said just like that though too, your
food was never salted.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
You need to change your menu. Here's your money, but
just know you ain't just no, it was just that
it was worse.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
He was like, oh tappy, Like we were there at
the counter he was cooking, and I was like, hey, like,
bbe wise. It's cool if we like, we'll go into
another room or we'll go do some other stuff. Unless like,
but my friend I could tell wanted to watch him
cook and like talk to him. But I was like,
if you need to be alone while you do this,
will go somewhere else. He's like, no, I love this.
I love the company. And so I'm like okay, So

(39:24):
we sit at this countertop and watch him cook. And
then for some reason, I don't even know how we
got to the subject, but he starts talking about Lizo,
and you know, he started talking about her weight, and
I literally was like, hey, I'm not that phobic, and
like we can just move it along, like we can
move the conversation along. And I think he thought, because
my friend like booked everything that she was on to

(39:45):
pay for anything, I pay for everything, but I can
give beta energy when I want to, just to see
how people will treat me. So he was like, I
asked him to move on from that fucking conversation four
fucking times, and he kept talking about it.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Oh wis about him?

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Oh whis about this? And I was like, you're not
gonna fatch him. A black woman like, she's healthy, she
can she can play the flue on stage and and dance.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
I'm sure she could run around as.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Talking about but I'm like, also here in my space
making me uncomfortable saying things that are sucked up and
like so also like I think that handshake moment with
the cash was also me being like, you know, I paid.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
For all of this.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
You let him know front.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Yeah, I'll be like here and I'll throw the pan adam.
I'm gonna jump from one extreme to the other. Oh god,
no one really bad wig that me and all of

(40:44):
my friends.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
I'm getting the wig.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Oh somebody called Holly Berry. But no, all that to
be said, I live. I think the one thing that
I really one of the questions that I really wanted
to ask you, I was like, I gotta know this
before we move on. I think one of the biggest
thing is that I've been seeing is you know, I've
known that you've dealt with just basically a lot of
shit in this role that you have on I Carly

(41:13):
and really thinking about how do you balance this notion
of manifesting your own authenticity in a in a public
figure way and also setting boundaries, right, like having to
set boundaries on what people can come in on and
where they can give their voice and things of that nature.
So I just would love to know, like, for folks
who might be looking to you or folks like us

(41:35):
who are on the mic, how do you balance kind
of this notion of being your authentic self and setting
boundaries while also making sure that you like advocate for
yourself as a black woman.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
That's a great question.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
It's like so multifascinating, And because I've been rambling on.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
So much, I'm going to try to give you the
most succinct I'm talking so this podcast.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
You know you're not I we got to go to
the niggas is gonna listen for two hours the.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Way I have not laughed as hard, and.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
So I have not laughed.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
I love you guy, because the're literally doing the figure.
I'm like, I'm like, oh no, You're like, no, You're fine.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
We're each other.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Are never how did you still do love that painting
in the back of the wall.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Each other?

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Those are best friends. But I would say that one I.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
Learned very early on day my personal business, Like I
know that some people like it's funny because like there's
some people who.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Use like.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Radical honesty and I'm not even gonna call it radical
honesty because I think it's a little toxic. It's like
just using every part of their personal life to like
gain traction or like followers or like clicks or like
views or whatever, and just basically exposing everything about themselves
in the interest of like attracting bowyers and people.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
And me as a nosy, like it'd be working.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
You know, me as as I identify as identify I
know people's business, right.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
I'm like, you're wild, but continue, like.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Okay, the way I'm just privy all information, I'm like,
h crazy, but go on.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Yeah really stop.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
But but I've learned, like that's not my vibe. So
I don't share things that are deeply personal to me.
It's very rare that I'll share something that is personal
to me just because like that's for me and for
my family.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
And that's like my real life. And that's how I
can kind of.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
Separate my life because in this business, especially now, where
parasocial relationships have become so strong and such a such
a easy way for people to cate a false sense
of relationship and security between the consumer and the seller.

(44:08):
And what I mean by that is like on podcasts,
I joke about this all the time. Godness, Like I
do this whole bit in the beginning where I'll like,
do like call a response, I like.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
How is y'all day? Oh, that's wild, which is a
response I could work for anything. You could be like
I got bus, that's wild. Oh I'll pass my els
at that's wow? Like yeah, like great.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
So you know, I joke about it because it's a
real thing. Like look at Gwyneth Paltrow and all her
creams and goops and stuff that she's selling to like
upper middle class white women look at like you can
literally look like I think one of the Hadids sisters, Bella,
she just said that she stopped drinking alcohol, right. She
was like, I'm sopped. I don't drink alcohol anymore, and
I'm celebrating my five months sober or whatever. But that

(44:46):
was paired with this launch of her non alcoholic cocktail
that was being sold in these Vegas restaurants. So it's
like she's telling you something somewhat personal about her life
and quotes, but then also pairing it with this product
that she's selling. So like how genuine is that? Like
how you know what I mean? Like media literacy is
on the all time decline. Bush was right, the kids

(45:09):
have been left behind, like very far behind. We are
from sixty six and we have.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Everybody's over here on the five just by yourself, and
we never they left.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
We're not going back, you know. So it's like I've
learned in this business there is this.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Kind of manufactured thing and and and a lot of
times as an actor, like your goal like when people
want to be famous, like they don't realize when you're
not in the business that being famous is a lot
of it is being a product. Like you become something
that has garnered enough attention that now we can sell you,

(45:59):
like come stand next to this purse, come wear this outfit,
come you know, sell, sell, sell things with your body
so that we can all make money off of the
attention that you've garnered. And a lot of ways that
attention is manufactured as well. It's like, okay, we have
this great publicist, we have this great studio behind you,
we have all these fashion brands behind you. We're gonna

(46:20):
push you so far into the public eye that you
will be recognizable, and then we are in turn going.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
To use that to sell the shit that we wanted.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
So I've had this like going on this ride from
like being on TMZ and like dealing with all the
racism shit and like like all of that, like that
thrust into a spotlight that wasn't the way that I imagined
it happening, and thinking like, oh, okay, well now I'm
going to become a product. I have a marketing degree.
I was like, fuck, y'all, all right, whatever, I'll do it.
I'm a scammer, I'll survive. And then like once that

(46:52):
little moment was like done, like oh you're the little
racism girl, and now we're moving on to something else.
And not not to say that I'm not working, to
say that things aren't still ascending in my career, but
that like weird media moment I realized.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Like I can't get caught up in what other people
think of me.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Was people want me to be like I want like
I went to Joshua Tree thought I was gonna find
myself didn't. It wasn't until I went to New York
to actually take care of my cousin who had like
a random, like.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Whole like hospital scare thing.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
That I was in New York, I saw Titanique, which
is amazing if you could see it, so fun It's
basically a camp version like musical of like the Celine
Dion impressionists retelling the Titanic movie. And it's so funny
and everyone is so good at it. And I'm not
even lying it was. This is not even endorsement, like,

(47:52):
it's just fucking amazing. And I went to see it
by myself and I saw all of these Broadway actors,
like or theater actors, right, you know this is off Broadway.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
But still the.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, they are trained and as somebody who is.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
My little songbook around New York.

Speaker 9 (48:07):
Cityney a stranger in a car like once on the
like listen, yes, but.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
So I respect it. But they were so fucking happy
and like really enjoying every moment of it. And it
reminded me of the reason why I started doing this
was get joy and to bring joy. So I can't
let people tamp that down.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
I just make sure that I think it's fun and
I release it into the world, and then it's not
mine anymore.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
And I think that that's we all have to find
the joy in what we do, and it's really hard
when the joy is attached to capitalism. So you have
to find the balance, Like, yeah, find your ship, but
don't let that ship make you.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
What's her name say in the Players Club? She said,
make that money, don't let it make you. Yeah, you
quoted the Plans Club.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
She went wrong? She was Then she pulled out that gun.
What happened? Shot had bars before that before she got.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, poor thing?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Oh you go ahead, you go ahead. I'm not I'm
not you go ahead.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
The last big thing I was going to say about this,
because I've been talking for so long, is that I
will say that when all the teams and racism stuff
was happening, blah blah blah, I was doing a lot
of interviews and like doing a lot of PR and stuff,
And I remember I got to the end of a
PR run, maybe my second one, and somebody asked me,
like a bunch of questions. I already been asked that
always happens whatever, But then they asked me like, you know,
like getting this job is harper and I carly, like

(49:52):
what does that mean for like black women and queer women?

Speaker 4 (49:56):
And I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
It just broke me and I was like, do you
ask like Sydney Sweeting what it means for like white
women for.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Her to have a job.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Do you ask Jason Bateman and if white man identify
with him on the street? I was like, you're essentially
asking me if like when I sign my W twos
do I think about Harriet Tubbman? Like what is the question?
Let's talk about the work that I'm doing. Let's talk
about the book that I'm writing. Let's talk about like, yeah,
me not like the shell of a clickbait story. So yeah,

(50:24):
it's it's a lot of like finding yourself and like
realizing that you can't tap into that shit too deep.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah, I foxed with it wholeheartedly. I really do. And
I think I I one I will say before we
before we run off to our second break. I think
the one thing I will say is thank you for
being as candid as you are about where you are
in your own journey, because I think even though I
wouldn't like I try to tell people, cause I have
friends who will say, oh, you're famous or are people

(50:52):
know you? And I'm like, fame whatever, Like famous not
something I've always aspired for or looked for, but I
do recognize that and notoriety. There becomes these things that
people make up in their head about you and who
you are and even how to be your friend or
how to get close to you and all of that.
And I love that you were so upfront with us

(51:14):
just about how your mind moves and how your mind thinks,
and and yeah, I'm just very much, very very grateful
for you sharing that. But yeah, lazy you've had.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
I feel like this is just every everything you should
has been so I mean to judgment has been so special.
But also the way that the way that you are,
you way you have drop some real gems in this
and like like you were you were even so truthful
and honest about the DA being a product in capitalism
while also being really funny with it, Like everything you

(51:45):
should have been so so amazing, And I'm so thankful
that we've gone a chance to speak with you.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
For this segment.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
We are going to take a break because while we
are getting over people pleasing, we do have to please
our advertisers.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
Still Hello, So you're going to listen to them, and
then we'll come back with lazy for our next segment,
What's on your Plate?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
We'll be right back in a moment.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Okay, y'all, we're gonna we're gonna do something different today
for what for what's on go play? We're gonna keep
it light and fun, just for funzies. I'm gonna do
some rapid fire questions with y'all. I'm gonna throw some
main dishes at y'all, and you're gonna tell us what's
the best side dish for it.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
So I'm gonna throw a main dish. It'll be lazy,
It'll be John.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
So this is basically you tested us to see how
black we are got it.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
Listen takes me away.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that you know,
there's no right or wrong answers, but there is a
wrong answer.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
So there is wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Y'all ready for this?

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Okay, I wanna throw a main dish and be lazy
than John. Okay, So first dish, pop Hye, Lacy.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Best side Popeye like Popeyes, like talk Sorry.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
A pot pie, a pot pie, pot pie, a pot pie.
She's all the sides.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
With a pot pie.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
I'm gonna go with tea like an English breakfast, but
puts a bourbon in it.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Okay, John, John, my husband makes it with rice. But
my husband is also white, so I don't know if
there's a correlation there. But he makes the pop pie
with rice. It's good because like the pop pie, like
with the meat and like the.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
I mean, you're saying something better than I did. I
said alcohol and tea.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
That she's still living in British dynasty. She's still she's
like just a pot pie with a spawnt and a
splashed bourbon.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Oh gosh, it just crept right back up.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Like they had wartime to like.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Tomatoes and.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Ever I pop pie with English tea on the side before,
have you ever?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
I just need to know.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
But okay, no, it's it's okay.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
It's your husband. Do you like the rest?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
That's the best one. It's okay. The real one starts now.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Pot roast, Okay, pot roast. I'm gonna go a baked
sweet potato with some butter and a little bit of
sea salt, you know, Oh little sweetness to the saltiness.
It's like very favory.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
You know, that's a meal that you get to your kids, Like,
that's the meal that you tell your kids, like, pull
that the freezer and the garage coming up.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Okay, okay, John, So I'm gonna say I'm gonna also
go down the route of potatoes. I don't love sweet
potatoes like that unless listen a pie. So I'm gonna
go ahead and do mashed potatoes. But they're not just
any kind of mashed potatoes. They gotta have a lot
of butter. I need to be able to taste the

(55:20):
milk in them. Like because people, people, people, people don't
know how to make mashed potatoes.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Yes, because it's very easy.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
That's that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Potatoes.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
If I come to your house, it's you. We are
too old for boxed potatoes. Now, I get it. Everybody.
Everybody's got a struggle, and I respect the struggle. However,
the way me and mind people in my situation role,
we don't do box potatoes there.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Okay, So I see potatoes both of y'all, and no
greens and type of greens in there.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
And that's a lot of work and we have multiple
size because that was not the game.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Listen, it was.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
It was a She's an Adventure moment, and y'all just
went to on one side dish.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I said, throw some main dishes. What's the You're right?
I did say, what's the best side dish? You're right,
nor Lacy, you got me that? Yes, so yes, and
you can have one of those.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Side dishes here a new one, and said, we'll do
barbacue chicken and ch I mean, I mean chicken smelled
and barbecue sauce.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Best side dishes. Give it to me, lazy.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
I love that you said chicken spelled and barbecue sauce
because that's definitely like a yeah, I could.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
Cook bait kind of like, and you.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Got to cook you get the sweet baby raised out
and maybe barbecue chicken.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
But I love it.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
I would have to put some broccolini with that, because
I'm brocco. It's gonna be bright green and a little
crunchy still, okay.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Help a little bit of water.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
Gonna get health and well maybe I even juice a
little lemon on it, because I'm classic like that. And
then also with that chicken, I mean, like you gotta
bust it down with another carb.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
I feel like mac and cheese.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
Yeah, a mac and cheese cook bus or a sweet
or a potato like a mashed potato situation.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
You know what I would guda mashed potatoes. Oh oh yeah,
you know, little milk and butter.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
Yeah that Guda gives us something a little different. And
that's the fact that I just smothered a piece of chicken. Money.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Yeah, I got some money.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Okay, yeah, go off, Okay, thank you John.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
How about you?

Speaker 1 (57:42):
So I wrote a note about potato salad is always
a must with anything barbecue for me. For me and
my home potato salad. However, not anybody can just make
the potato salad. I have written about this. I am
very particular about my potato salad, but yes, it has
to be eat a particular way for me to eat
it with my barbecue. But I also appreciate you naming

(58:04):
that barbecue is not created equally. There are a lot
of people who think that they can barbecue and they can't.
And I need my barbecue has to be on the
rail or I'm not touching it. So that's just me.
But that's why I'm also fat. So I'm particular about
my food.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
I okay, next to few we have two more of y'all.
Next dish black and catfish or salmon.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I'm so glad you didn't say salmon, because I would
have been really upset.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Soalmon, that's like.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
You didn't say that. You said samonth the.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Way, like, I don't know, we switch it up.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Maybe advocate for some all right now.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
Saying it people who believe it.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Yes, think about how much our language is done for
the culture. If we just start saying it, it will
be true.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Okay, and sorry, next week you will have b f
F some and stores.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
But I gotta go catfish because I'm from the South
and I used to like fish and like get like
like fish up catfish and then we would gut them,
clean them five.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Up, so Barefoot Country, I'm going catfish. And you know
with catfish, like we need some greens.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
This goa have some mac and cheese baked with at
least four types of cheeses.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
And I want the corner piece and it better be
like a little brown on a little outside, just a
little bit not not for Okay, Yeah, those are those
are definitely my size of say, oh, you gotta have
some hot sauf.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Louisiana preperably.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Okay, yes, yes, this is not so. I just want
to positive cook and say before we fin before we
put up cute bowl on this. I am starving, so
this is really not helping me. But I will say
that I am right there with you with the catfish.
I used to be a salmon girl. I would eat
salmon all the time, and I think salmon, yeah, some

(59:53):
on you eat some I would eat it all the time,
and I think that I kind of just kind of
the same way I don't do. If y'all know what
State of Brothers is, yes, ma'am, State of Brothers. It's
a grocery they have. It's like they have this like
seafood salad that I basically run myself, and it's so
bombed it's terrible for you. But I love all that

(01:00:15):
to say, yes, so I think that's what happened with
me and salmon. But I will say with black and catfish,
it has to be with that rice. But it's not
not jasmine rice. What's the other one by somebody? Yeah,
I want some buy somebody rice with a little bit
of like like butter.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Behind. I don't know, y'all. I'm longer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Longer. I think forever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
He says he's making rice and his boss body. I
get so excited because body, Rice is that girl.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Okay, yes, don't care about it was boring to Toulon
before it was cool, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, and a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
And I would also say, as a side to you
gotta have some broccoli or broccolini or even asparagus. I
think asparagus would do good for me. Okay, now my
last one, and this this one will make or break you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Gumbo aside of gumbo. Okay, go ahead, what's the side.
And you can't say rice because rice.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Is okay, okay, gag.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
Me a bit.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Okay, I can't say rice, Okay, with it, I'm gonna
have to say, okay, gumbo.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
So we got the Angley sausage and the like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Maybe I'm gonna just say my corn bread with the
corn in it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Damn. I was okay, we're different.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
I was not going to say corner it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I like sweet corn bread.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
A pinch of sugar corn in the corn bread.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I enjoy that that might be the whiteness in the white,
that might be the twelve percent of whiteness that that's
mean because I did was about twenty three and me,
I did. I did before.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Anyway, I can't have.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
That strikes like we gotta whatever we can withhold.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Okay, but I did it, and I'm twelve percent white,
and I think that's what that is that jumps out.
So that's why I like the corn of my.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Corporate Okay, I'll give you that I could do. You know,
you gotta do the blue corn bread.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
They coming in that blue box. That's the one box thing.
I will take.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Darryl to text me white now, Darryl here, Darryl, I
am so sorry. I am so sorry. My sister Darrell
is going to text me and it's gonna say, why
you let that that black lady talk about Jiffy on
your podcast, Because Daryl, I'm gonna be seeing her get it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
To every box, hey, the too, every box.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
The way she uses her social media to go off
about Jiffy. People use it, people make it corporate.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Wrong, Yeah, she's wrong. Listen. She ain't got a sponsor,
but I do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I will take I take it too. I will say this.
This was this was a trick question because if you'll
had actually given a side, dish, I would have been like,
hand me every black cards Okay, you don't give a
side dish. The corner was acceptable, but actual side dish.
Don't do that with gumbo the main event, like are
you gonna exactly exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
So I was like, okay, I was like, what they.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Go the game?

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
We did it, Joe, we did it. We did it, Joe. Well,
with that being said, and now my mouth salivating over
sweets and over corn bread and corn and all of
the things, and it's time for us to get into the
sweet part of the show. We will be back with
yes ma'am and No Man PAMs more in a baby.

(01:04:11):
All right, everybody, So we are back and this week,
since I'm trying to keep it evergreen in our yes
ma'am and I know man PAMs, I'm just gonna say
this my yes ma'am's and my no Man PAMs, this
weeks are going to be very, very very short. I
want to say yes ma'am to everybody who is getting
their come up and for trying to come for us,
meaning Trump, Carl Tucker, even donal Limmit, yes, Don Lemon.

(01:04:35):
Now let's talk about it. There was a time when
she was not family.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
She became Donald and Pepper, and I was like.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
She's like getting drunk at New York's Eve and standing
up with black lives. Yeah, there was a time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I have I have never laughed like this on a show.
We Are This is episode forty four, forty five, and
I am literally from how much I'm laughing. But yes,
she was giving Don Womin Pepper. I really want to
name this episode Don Lymen Pepper. I'm just gonna name
it donalmic Pepper. That's literally I'm Delta one, Don Pepper,

(01:05:34):
Delta one. Oh but anyway, all that to be said, yes,
I'm very excited to see her getting her just due
to because again, whiteness will not protect you. Now on
the other end of that, by no man, pam Is.
I wanted to send my love and regard so kind
of a serious thing here. I wanted to send my
love and regards to anyone who knew or loved Coco
the doll, whose life was recently taken in Atlanta. She

(01:05:57):
was a recent star of the movie Cocomo City, which
I think premiered at Sundance at the top of this year,
and she yeah, it did really, really well, and she
had so many amazing things about to pop off. Actually,
no people who were in her circle, and it kind
of left a lot of us with this like what now,
what does it mean for black trans women? And so

(01:06:19):
I think for me, my no man Pamas, just the
way that people have kind of been We know that
this stuff is happening to black trans women, and we
know that they continue to be the ones that are
harmed with a lot of the rhetoric that's happening, and
no one's really saying anything about it. And so I'm
just kind of in this place where I'm saying, like,
by no man Pamas to anyone who sees this stuff happening,
who is continuing to benefit from this kind of stuff

(01:06:42):
happening and not really doing anything to like move the
needle or advocate for us. So I just want to
say quickly, we can't be the only ones who are
screaming to the high heavens about needing help.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
So that's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Five and she died at thirty five. Yeah, so yeah,
neither was it for me. And I appreciate you knowing that,
and I think that that's been the biggest thing for me. It's,
like I said, I see so many people who have
platforms who have not said anything, and it's just getting
to a place where it's like trans and non binary
people can't be the only people screaming we deserve to live.

(01:07:15):
So guest, what are your guest ma'ams and your no
man PAMs for this week?

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Oh my, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Okay, this is like very petty, but I love Succession
because that's like white Empire.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
It's like the company.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Everybody's like, we want the company with these like jargon
terms and stocks and bonds. I do, like, I know
what the fun I'll talk about sec bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
You know that too.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
It's just like we didn't know an empire. It was
like the record labels, like, you know, we're just lying.
Got logan, Roy, don't play with me? Okay, So by
yes damp was to ship Roy. She really came up
last week because I just coming out next week. She
really came up last week and did her big one

(01:08:06):
for the women, and I.

Speaker 10 (01:08:10):
Was like yeah, yeah, my no, ma'am, Oh god, I
know them could be so many things happening right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
That was wild in news. I'm just gonna say that,
like by the time out here, they said it'll be
probably about a week. But today was wild in news.
But go on.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Okay, I no, ma'am, it's gonna have.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
To be Greg abby He's a fucking weirdo and I'm
from Texas and I'm so sick his as.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
I don't even know what to do. It's so disgusting.
And are you not in bars? Are you latest thing
of trying to get this white supremacist murder off who
they recently just realized he has other kind of like
assault allegations against children against him still like.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
Advocating this blood and a lot of it was because
of Tucker Crossing, like egging it on. So like a
big no man, fuck you to Greg Abbott. I can't
wait for you to leave the planet. There will be
so much better off.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
So yeah, those are my things.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Also, I will say, like Fox News, if y'a would
like me to take over Tucker cross this bike, I
will be open today because he was just lying. Anyway,
I can do good lives for you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
We are we are children of black parents. If that
is what thing we know how to do. We know
how to lie. We definitely know how to get out
of a bad situation.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
All the fake facts.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Yes, statistics, Okay, today I was like, instead of statistic, statistics,
We're gonna have adjectives. Okay, I'm gonna say, Okay, bad
is now a number on my It's gonna be on
my chart.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Okay, I got grabs. It's like bad good. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Let me come on there and lie literally screaming to
the top of I'm sure my my partners in the
room like what the fuck is going on in there?
Because I am screaming. But you literally said the numbers
are going to just be adjectives.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
Oh yeah, I tweeted.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
I was like, I still feel like I come on,
let me do it. I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Get off my line, Lacy, get off my line. I'm
not playing with you no more an hour of this.
I am. I have never screamed at a webbon like this,
but my mother because I because she loves me. Oh
my goodness, what a moment, What a moment. This this

(01:10:45):
has been fun. Joho, what are your yes ma'ams and
your nomad PAMs?

Speaker 11 (01:10:49):
Oh my god, yes, yes, ma'am, my yess, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
It is just Kickie Palmer.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
For her acceptance speech for her Vanguard Award the LBT
Sinners of Los Angeles Gala Gala or call it because
I really, really loved how she demonstrated like the nuance
like like like the nuanced spectrum of sexuality and general
dandy and to talk about them both so openly, you know,
and like like it's not like it's not like he
particularly came out and said I'm this or I'm that,

(01:11:24):
but talked about I've never felt this enough or this enough,
or woman enough or man enough, and that she's just
a little bit everything.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
And and I think that it's just that was like
a really helpful experience.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
I think for people who are not yet, they're a
place of acceptance and embracing of queer transientanities, like in
a moment that they get to understand oh like famous
people also experienced just this feeling of oh like like
I didn't think about this or I haven't been clear
on who I am in this way, and so I
just yes, mey and Pam to her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
I mean, love, love her for for so many things.
I also think about the time where she was almost
not almost not on our good side.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
So I'm glad that she is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
We love her the way that Mama did. A full
one eighty has kept yourself there there. You want to
talk about some good pr whoever is behind her, they.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
They got her right, They got her right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
You got something?

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Yes, so yes, yes, my rain, I'm they did the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
My know, Man Pam is just to any Manham's personal
this week it's just any non black people in San Diego,
because I was table this past weekend at a Pride
in the Military resource fair but sendego Black plusculation.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I'm on the board of which, like I love, it's
a great great reization. Military is a hard thing for me,
but like anyone who's queer deserves access to Pride resources. Yeah,
I was like, I happy to be here. And so
we had we had on our booth. We had a
little spin wheel when you spin for Prides. But when
the prize to answer a trivia question. The trivia questions
were either black queer and trans TV characters or media

(01:13:07):
content trivia question. Another trivia category was black queer trans
iconsra history or legislation affecting queer, black and trans folks
in the US today, or politicians.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
It was like, like, I mean one of the questions.
One of the questions was this show has a titled
drag race in it, so like truly low hanging fruit,
you know, low hanging fruit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
And when I tell you that, nary a person could
have answered the question was already enough.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
And then so then I'm like, how about like the
answer question wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
And I was like literally, I was like, drag, it's
really just just gotta get one more named drag race
and call that good day.

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
It's just like it's investigating, I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
So, so I was like, Okay, no, what, it's fine,
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Just name me, Just name me one, just one queer.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Black or trans person. I don't even have to know
who they are. It can be your friend, lie to me,
be compident and lie to me if you have to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
And nobody could so San Diego non black folks because
my living we're there for four hours and me and
my team and we're like we couldn't get the way
I was giving people names, I was like just I
was like, sailor burn Cox, say are lord?

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Say just say me. You can literally say your cousin
Rodney down the street.

Speaker 12 (01:14:38):
I would have been okay, okay, very white, very white,
somebody I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
Just give it up because I'm sorry. It is like
obviously Paul's flag, but don't act like when you get
on the stage. Everybody else say white, you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Know who, don't be talking. We can't talk about the craggy,
can't talk about the mm hmm, and you can't talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
That's not that wasn't a. I didn't say these opinions.
I'm just saying a fact.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
All gets up there and then everyone else is usually quiet.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Yes, and I will always I will always go for
that journalist who called him out on it, and he
the way he tapped, danced and tripped doll over.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
Listen, he's sick of us because he hates us.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
This last last crowning, he was like, okay, and in
the corner we got a QR CO for a c
o u uh and shut the fuck up. You get
out my mentions because we didn't play about how they're
trying to cancel drag.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
This siece is so shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Yes, please be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
I told the future. That's that's what I do. Bitch,
I toll the future. I don't say how supporting people myself, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
We're like, I can fight my whole lif all my life,
I had to fight.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Oh my life I had except that that I'm never
gonna get a rue. Paul's drag Race Box like they
are never gonna send me any promo because I know
that somebody who works for World of Wonder is listening
to this show. It knows that every episode we seem

(01:16:19):
to manage to land on RU Paul some way shape.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
For promoted listen is bad press. Okay, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
I am never gonna be in that audience finale and
I've accepted it. I'm not accepted that I'm never going
to get that in fighting next.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
To him, So I'm so sorry. I want next to him.
Prepare about Plus, though I love it's actually for me
to be gay this week.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
But.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yes, I fox with it. Well this, I will say.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
I don't mean to offend any of our guests who
have come before you, baby, but when I tell you
that this this episode was the what for me, I
mean that with every single fiber of my body. So everybody,
please send your thoughts and your feedback and your email however,

(01:17:25):
however this episode lands with you to Blackfatfempod at gmail
dot com. You can also send your thoughts via social
media by actor interacting with us on our post on
Instagram and Twitter and all of the socials. We'd love
to hear from you all, Lacey, Where can the dolls
find you?

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
Well, you guys can find me if you wanted to
see Socials d I V A l A C I
DBA Lacy on all platforms, and uh, listen to my
podcast Scam Goddess, which is yeah, anywhere that you listen
to podcasts, and it's very much comedy and then like
also some true crime, but it's about scam, so.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
You're not gonna hear about no nice people getting murdered.
So it's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Carley.

Speaker 5 (01:18:06):
Next season's out June first. I think I'm allowed to
say that. Yeah, yeah, so pull up. We have fun
things and sorts. It's very fun and very gay somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
I love that, Joho. Where can the dolls find you?

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
As usual?

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
You can find me at Jojo Daniels across Socials, or
you can find me at Kaiser begging to get new lungs.
That's tired mine out today, bitch, I am wheezing everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I need you to help a bit, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Please somebody give me some new lungs. Oh my god,
And you know that's not gonna happen. I'm gonna tell
you right now, what's gonna happen is they gonna put
you in that long line for urging hair and they
gonna hand you with sheet and basically tell you to
come back tomorrow because they can't help you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Can get you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:04):
Okay, I'm gonna come in with my Chanel bag and
be like, excuse me, I'm Delta one, bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Give me my fucking lungs.

Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
You see me in this bag, baby, it says, Okay,
that's that's the obscib.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Give me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
I cannot I hate it here, I really do. I
really do well. Anyway, y'all ask for me. You can
find me all over your socials. Everyone has been resharing
a clip that I had did for FUSE, and I
just wanted to big up. Has nothing to do with me,
has everything to do with c c Tefler. If you
have not watched her Fuse episode, please do. I'm advocating.

(01:19:49):
C c Tefler, for those of you do not know,
is a black trans athlete who is really trying to
get to the Olympics and is asking anybody and everybody
to help them get there. And so I've been really
just telling everyone watch the episode, connect with them on
social If you have connects. Do whatever you can, but
we need to uplift our system make sure she can
get to the Olympics for twenty twenty four. All that

(01:20:09):
to be said, Yeah, there was another NOD was gonna
make You should also be keeping the other trans girls
on your radars because these right wing niggas think that
they got us and I ain't having it. That was
the actual other note that I wanted to make sure
that I add to anyways you can find me all
over social doctor John Paul as well as my wife
website Doctor John Paul dot com lazy. This has been

(01:20:29):
a blast. I really appreciate it. We want to thank
our supervisors who helped make this happen, Producer Rebecca Ramos
and Vey Wang, and executive super producer Anna Hastnia everyone
over at iHeart Media. We would also like to shout
out our wonderful editor Chris Rodgers, who's gonna make some
great magic to speak because without them there would be
no show. This has been another one. Thank you for

(01:20:52):
listening and remember that you have the right to love
yourself no matter what stage of the process you are in.
I love us for real. Bye.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Nine was great.

Speaker 7 (01:21:06):
Mm hmm.

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