April 29, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Black Fat Fem Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio
and Doctor John Paul LLC. Hey everyone, welcome to another
episode of the Blackfast and Podcast where all the intersections
of identity are celebrated. My name is John, also known
as Doctor John Paul, and will my sugar might be
(00:20):
going up and down like the stock market. The one
thing that is steady around here is mother is here
for an app. How are you today, Joe? How are think?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
First of all, girl, I am in fluorescent lighting right now.
This is criminal, This is nasty.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's not giving. Girl, I think I look so nasty?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Was the overhead light? We being uncunt?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's giving very uncundy Like I have the Kisminius talent.
But the lights are not are not my friend today? No,
poor lighty is giving a right my girl?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Backup boss in the.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Twenty five like, what is happening? But Anyoney's family is
your girls joining a cage shot. I'm here to tell
you all that I am done with everything. The reason
I'm just done with it all because I can be
because Peach I was tired. Oh my god, I am
so tired. Like I woke up today and I said,
(01:19):
why why am I why am I awake.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I want to be invested like the world. The world's
come too far, like Pope.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Listen, the Pope is the Pope left.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The Pope is not in the streets like that, because
I will get, for sure, knock on my door by
super service.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
But so Chris Bakes, you blew that part. But you
know people are here killing people in the streets, okay,
because I'm not dragging my ass.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
God, because the Pope said, who what what somebody else?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
There's there's, there's there's. It was like a beam of
like I want to say, it was like your housewives
are the house are likely bad Backgrols club. But like
the girl straight hand some sugarhand.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And then she walked away and she was like sugarhand.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Her spirit bit me she had and I said, that's
what's appropriates said, and I was taken out.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
But also.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But but you know what, you know what though even
though the Pope is up out of here, we are
we are not alone by ourselves today. So what I
will say is this today we are joined in our
third seat by a doll that both you and your
mama loves. She is a writer, composer, director, and activists
whose work has gone her acclaim from both Billboard and
(02:36):
Outfast Girl. Now let's clock it, clock that tea. Not
everybody gets on Billboard's radar. I just want to make
sure that everybody named Mama know that. So today we
are joined by the one and only Star Amrazi. Did
I say that right?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You said you were close enough? Diva, it's star.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I'm I'm a ross Sue. Okay, I know that's right. Well,
I tried, but thank you so much to be in here.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
How is you slated?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I'm doing good, girl, I feel very much the same
kind of like day by daying at this very moment
in time.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yes, yes, girl, as we all are right there.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
With both of you both.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I had to go outside, said I wanted a hike.
I said, let me go ahead and talk to the
spirits in the forest.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And then come come come on Shinto about us, which
we will get into later, because all about I know
all about Amatu.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Okay, girl, we'll get into her later.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Episode.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We're gonna give our girls some flowers with Sisha Campbell
and are still here sing. I'm kicking off asking asking
you something that Star rebels in Daily want to ask
the question for all of us here. What doesn't mean
to serve ce un t cunt baby. I know, for me,
it's just a whole presence. It's like it's a way
of life, a way of being. It's one of those
(03:59):
things you you gotta talk about if you are about
you know what I mean. Like, it's just you know,
you know you ain't gonna go traffic. Could you stay
in your lane? Did you feel your best? Everything that
you do and you look your best because you're feeling
your best? You know, Like it's just like like like
if you have to try and explain it, you don't
have it, you know what I'm saying, Like, not has it?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So that's what means to me. I'm curious what means
to y'all though, Yeah, you first and whist sean.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Okay, Serving cut is what we're talking about. I feel
like cut is a state of mind, and like your
version of cut is your version of cunt. I think
having that confidence to serve whatever you're serving. If it's
I'm the garbage man, then that's your that's what you serve,
and you see you better serve it well if you're serving.
(04:46):
I'm the assistant manager to the regional manager at a
paper company, then that's what you're serving as well. And
you know, for me personally, I just think that I
am one of the most iconic dolls. Yes, I know,
that's right of the modern edge, and so that gives
me a joint of pleasure to serve cunt really.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, wow, what a moment.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I never understood what serving cunt was until I started
realizing that a lot of the ways I felt about
myself were rooted in anti blackness, fat phobia, and queer
phobia and so like, once I was able to get
out of that mindset, I was like, oh, I'm that bitch,
Like I really am that girl. And it just when
I started to like really embrace my softness and my feminists,
(05:30):
when I was getting my nails done, when I got
a good, good bag to carry, it just all started
feeling like, oh, I'm that bit, like and you can't
take it. You you know you can't. So yes, So
I agree that kunt is a state of mind. And
I see people look at me and try to compute
my energy and it's like eat it, dull, chump, chom
(05:52):
chom chomp, chomp, chom chump, Like you can't the afterglow
of my Louis Vauton perfuses. You can't take it right
like you'll care, they'll me and you'll never be us
on a good day, like all three of us. You'll
never be us. And that is the that's the that
is the moment, that is what kind is.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They're not even on your best day? Will you be us? Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And you're still going to be at the bottom, like
literally you'll.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Not saying.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I always think of that song Gucci Gucci, that like
this old ass song by Kreas this girl but when
she but when when she said, why are you looking better?
I'd be looking better. I'm just like, girl, that's exactly
all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You're looking big and I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Better, bitch, okay, why are you looking better and better?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I was thinking about this because recently, too, I like
went viral and then I get a lot of weird
comments from the fans, and I'd be like, oh my god,
this is so crazy because and and they're kind of
me and like they want me to be constantly producing.
They want like all this stuff, and I'm like, girl,
you all need to calm down because.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I could take it or leave. I don't have to
do this.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I'm beautiful. I've had sugar daddies have had like man like.
I don't have to like do any of this. I
will leave this all behind and move on to a
different world like the girl. I also could get a job.
I'm just like a lot of these people do not.
They can't go from my idea, the conception of the projects.
And that's that's the skill in itself.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Weak.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Okay, sorry, we know that. What I'm screaming. You said,
the only concession you got is when you were born girl,
that's it.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Another and that we have gathered the girls but serving
but serving charisma.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You needless nerve and talent they give them. Maru, we
have to get a quick break to play some mills.
Be back with a que Conbo will start more, and.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Justin said, all right, y'all. So as we dive into
today's conversation, I wanted to understand one thing I had
when I was doing my Instagram stalking, which I always
do before a guest comes on. There's something that you
(08:19):
talk a lot about in your work, which is the fantasy,
right and talking about the future and talking about all
of those things right, how they connect. And so you've
mentioned that you strive to live the fantasy in a
world that's actively working against you, which I absolutely love
and adore, and so that term the fantasy and all
of all of these words, right, these all the things serving,
(08:40):
all of these things have been things that we as
the queer community and trans community have used to kind
of express ourselves and to talk about who we are.
And so sometimes, you know, I do know one thing
that I've been thinking a lot about is how the
fantasy can be lethal for our trans siblings. And so
I wanted to ask you in this moment, you know,
what does it mean for you to eg xist and
(09:01):
thrive in the fantasy? In this current moment, I think,
like it's so interesting because I do feel like I
live in my own world sometimes, and I live in
a place like I'm in California, I'm in LA where
like I don't feel othered, super othered walking around as
a transperson.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I don't really feel that way.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
And I also have privileges having being like more surspassing
like I have privileges so I don't necessarily on my
day to day deal with sort of like actor transphobia
I think what I did with more than anything is
anti blackness and like misoge noire, and I think the
fantasy for myself is really I just sort of built
(09:45):
in my mind this idea that like, I am sickening,
and sometimes when people are hateful, it is because I
am just so sickening that they cannot simply take as
we said earlier. And I think that is something that
really does help me sleep at night though, because it's
like I could be upset about something happening. For example,
even today, I was like this, I've recorded a song
(10:07):
with somebody and I gave them all these ideas and
I was like, you should use the sample of like
Tyra yelling at be quiet Tiffany, like that that would
eat in a track. Why when I asked the boy
for the track, I didn't get the track, but I
look on Instagram and the.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Song is made.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yea, my vocals are gone and the Tyra is in this.
The thing that I told him to do is in
the thing. And I was thinking to myself, like, girl,
I'm just so sick. My ideas are just so good.
My it really is really just like, oh, my ideas
are just so good, Like I should really just like
use them for myself anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So no, but is that shally a great segue into
into my question because it's like it's about your about
you being a music artist. So I love I love
like I'm just so sicking that people will take my
ideas like I love that. I love the mindset because
like like it's like you like like you could say
mad bi or be like, I'm just so sick that
people just love people that love just taking my shit.
Like so I am thinking about how you take up
(11:08):
space in the electron pop lane as well, because I
know that you're a music artist. You have done done
electron pop, you electron and pop, you work with folks
still music, especially as black artists, when people don't always associate.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Like like this lane with blackness. I want to know
how do you thrive in this space?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And also like how like how how do you navigate
being a black artist when people do take your shit
like this.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I think it's just it's so funny if you think
about it, because it's like a lot of white boys
and I'm like a white boy can never a straight
white boy especially it's not going to think about like
the fat things that our community creates. And that's why,
if you like, think about internet language right now, everybody
talks like they're adult from nineteen ninety yep.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Like what like everybody talks.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Like adult Like I'm like, oh you you're all literally
regurgitating everything that you heard that has made it into
your ears. And I think it's just it is a
symptom of the times, like people are so desperate for
something that makes them feel different. And I think we
live in a world and this is a lot I
have a larger thought about this, but I feel like
(12:15):
post Black Lives Matter, we are living in like a
reactionary phase to that because people realize that like most
of their culture and most of the things that they
love all came from black people specifically, and now they
felt othered, and so they're just going to take our
culture without having us yep. And in the conversation. And
(12:36):
I think that is why, because they don't want to
feel bad. They don't want to feel bad about themselves.
They want to feel like, oh my God, like oh
I'm wrong or something. And that's why we have all
of these white people who are all sorts of identities.
Now I'm playing identity politics with each other and policing
each other in order to absconde themselves from any feeling
of being the bad guy. And so when it comes
(12:57):
to my music and my ideas, it's like, oh, like,
I don't really like the music industry. I'm actually really
happy that I'm working in other art forms because I
know that film people. Film people always are like, oh,
film is like the most toxic industry. I'm like, actually, music,
I think is one of the most toxic industries.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Agree. I agree, reareheartedly yeah, and we can we can
talk for days. I mean, we've had folks on the
show talk about why they've intentionally stayed independent and why
they've you know, refused to sign contracts and YadA, YadA, YadA,
and so I appreciate you uplifting that. And I can
only imagine what it's like to be, you know, to
be I don't want to say this for it to
(13:33):
come across as it being like dismissive, but I can
imagine what it's like for you to be. So I
love the energy you give. I don't want to say
that you're full of yourself because you're not. I want
to say that you love you more than other people
could ever fathom and I love that. I love when
people are like, I'm that girl and you just have
to deal with it. And I think the industry and
(13:54):
I think society wants to break that down. And I
think that that's one of the reasons why I'm so
happy that you're on the show show because that's something
I feel like we tell all of our listeners that
we want folks to really listen to the show and
to get that message as well, like you have the
right to love yourself unapologetically. You have the right to
have the audacity, and so I love that you're pouring
into yourself. Yeah, so I'm going to ask this question.
(14:19):
I know, Joho, I'll be transparent and saying this is
not a me question, Joho put this question here, so
I'm a rock with it. I know your last name
was inspired by the Shinto goddess. I don't want to
pretend like I know what I'm talking about what I
really don't. So you're gonna educate me in this smoke
inspired by the Shinto goddess. And I'm curious what the
(14:40):
process of choosing that name was like, and like when
folks transition and choose their name, like what is the
process like, given how different the process may look for
you or for other people specifically in this administration, what
advice would you give to folks who are in the
process of trying to figure out who they are and
what their name might be and how they want to
(15:00):
kind of show up in the world.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
That's so funny. I love that question. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Thank you both for the combo effects of this question.
When I was a teenager, like sixteen seventeen, I started
going by star and I always liked star Shine, Like
for some reason that stood out to me. I think,
there's a musical hair and they say star Shine. You know,
they think about star Shine that it says hello, And
(15:27):
so I wanted to be star Shine. When I was nineteen,
I had left Austin, Texas, where I was, and I
moved to San Francisco and there was this queer youth
center called Lyric and they had like a lawyer who
would go with you to the courthouse to follow your
name change paperwork. So I was like star Shine kind
(15:47):
of at the time, and I was trying to find
words that meant shining or to shine or something like that.
Like I was like, I want a new I want
something that means shining. So when I was on a
baby naming website, I seen Amatarassu, like it was like
lots of goddesses names and Matarassu was there and I
was like, oh, that's beautiful, like, oh, it's shining one
(16:08):
in heaven. I think it is what it translates too
similar to that. I was like, yes, I'm star shining
one in heaven and so okay, I like thought about
the name. Then a couple of weeks later, I missed
my first appointment to go to the courthouse. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The lawyer got back with me. He rocked with me.
He was like, I know the dolls.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I know the dolls are on all time. So the
second appointment, I go, I know this is a long story.
I'm sorry, but it's not at all. Tell the story, baby,
I love it. The second appointment, I go, right, so
I'm there. I'm like, I'm Morassu. I fill out the paperwork.
We filed the court work paperwork.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I go to court.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Then a few weeks later and the judge is like, okay,
I'm Arassu. My name is side. They notarize the paper.
Why I googled my last name A Morassu and nothing
shut up. I was like, no, I'm Marasu and it's
and then I look and I'm like, Ahma Terasu, and
I was like, oh my god, like I totally spelled
it wrong. And then I was like, that's fab actually,
(17:10):
because now I have my own name. Yeah, I have
the name that a nineteen year old went and filed
paperwork for not realizing that and not double checking that
she spelled it right. And I honestly I feel like
it's so iconic because I know it really is like
real baby Japanese culture anyway, So I'm like, girl, I'm
(17:32):
not Japanese. I'm literally just Amarasu and it's a completely
made up name.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
There. I love it. I love it. That was so cute.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You so much?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, so because I first because like so it's like
I'm also I'm like hugely into gIBIS culture. Manga anime
were all watch my growing up, and so I wish
I thought it was inspired by Nut, which is like
which is an anime where they're they're like one of
one of the special moods is is Ama Terasu. And
it's like like it's it's a star shaped like uh
(18:07):
like ninja art. It's a lot of low Than'm not
gonna get into. But I first I was inspired by that,
and so hearing this is sending me because it's just
so not what I was expecting you to say at all.
And then when you when you said that you signed it,
I'm around su. My first off was like did she
just did she?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
That is iconic.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That is like a behavior like like everything everything you're
saying doing, I'm like, okay, like this, like this is
what it means, like like the joy of living in.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Your world, like the joy living in your own world.
It's so powerful.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Also, like it's like such a direct response of like
this is what menverstation looks like like when you truly
trust and believe in yourself fully and you can do
anything and you're fucking doing it.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And I just I live. I live so much.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You know, your content is so fun and imaginative and different,
and I want to and like different different sense of
like you do so many things that you are multifascitude,
So I want to know, like what inspires you for
like for it when in Surpas you make content, when
you make music, what inspise you to like just show
by your full self, what moves you into.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
These different lanes, you know, being so multi hibernated and
all that you do.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
And our well, often I just kind of go with
my gut. I think we've sort of danced around that
in this conversation. But like my intuition really is like
what I'm followed, I lead, I lead myself by it,
and I follow it, you know what I mean. It's
like I'm just going through I forgot one part to
(19:41):
answer back to something from the previous. Thing is for
the other folks listening who are trying to go through
their processes too, it's like, just stick to you how
you feel. And I think that it touches into the
whole thing of like just go with how you feel.
Like some days I'm like, oh, I really love DJing
like this. I had a show last weekend, and every
time I do like a good show, it always reminds
(20:02):
me like, actually, I really love.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Music so much like I love other people's music.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I love playing music, I love dancing, and like going
with what I feel joy in has never led me
the wrong way. It's always led me to a great
situations and meeting great people. And I think with the
like Instagram stuff. To me, it is part of a
job in order to get what I want, which is
to have my own show and to be creating like
(20:28):
films and be an actress. Really and I think in
our modern day you kind of have to do all
of these things and you have to be your own
promo in order to really be seen. Like there are
casting doctors that are looking at it like people's instagrams
and they're following and shit before they cast them. And
so for me, it came out of like being frustrated,
Like making that first video I made that went viral,
(20:49):
I was like frustrated because I was like, no, I'm
not getting sent any castings, Like nobody's sending me anything.
I'm just gonna make myself like the villain. And I
was like, may I'm gonna give myself the villain and
the angenou in one video and now I'll see multiple
dimensions of me and it kind of like caught on immediately.
And if you notice, like a lot of the videos
(21:09):
I make currently of the AI in the future, I'm
a villain or and I'm also the girl who's like
trying to figure out how the world works. And I
think being both of those girls. Those of those girls
live inside me, and I think, like it's fun to
be able to create a character that is crazy and
doing stuff that I would never do, and then also
be sort of myself. It's like it's a beautiful dichotomy.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I think, Mmm, I love the answer, the answer, and
I love Smancha like hearing you, like hear you say
like like like a g way to show your own
range and to do it yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Like that's just really really fantastic to say, like I
can do both.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I know I can do both. I will do both.
You can now see how I can do both. You
can speak because you know I can do both. I
knew all the above.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I am a one. You are a wooman show like
you could do Yeah, that's just.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
A bisexual batty. You wake it up, Yes, yes, yes, yes,
we have to wake it up.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
All right. With that being said, now that we have
lived our best fantasy in this segment, we have to
take a break and when we get back, we are
going to jump into our journalistic bag and ask some
hard hitting questions.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Oh no, okay, fam we are black and we are back,
and this week we're not jumping pop culture bag this
has been a while since we've done it. John, you
(22:50):
set this up, say you ask a jolistic questions. So
I'm going tells us to you to see.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
What we got in the heart.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yes, I'm laughing right now because joeho waanha sound like
you're in a prison.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
The way I keep my voice down this much.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So for full transparency for our listeners, we have been
the last two weeks have been rough for us on
this show. Last week when internet was going out, and
then this week Joho is not recording at home, so
we are.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Creating also this this new mic. She's sensitive.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I feel like like I hear myself like so lovely,
and I'm like, girl, I feel like I am a
mouse right now.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Just maybe it's just maybe this week. So this week
for our next segment, we're getting into our What's Popping back.
It's been a couple of weeks since we've actually done
What's Popping And for folks turn for folks who have
been following the news the way that I've been following
the news, I have been noticing a trend and I'm
noticing people turning on popular celebrities. And so first it
(23:50):
was j Low and then now I'm seeing everybody turn
on Katie Perry. I laughed because did y'all see that
Wendy's tweet when we did, when they were like, okay,
Perry made it back to Earth, and then when he's
was like, y'all should have left Kennedy Perry there just
like wait a second, like throne Katy Perry to the wolves.
(24:13):
And so I just wanted to quickly just again because
I love being a mixed company, and I know that
we're all a little bit shady. I wanted to ask y'all, like,
why do y'all think that both of them are getting
so much heat? And do y'all feel like it's necessary?
Like I've been a huge Like I'm not a huge
fan of j Lo, So I want to make that
very clear. And I do like some of Katy Perry's songs,
(24:34):
but I also know that she's real dumb for doing
what she did in Space, and so I'm just wanting
to know, like is it me or like what what
started it? Like what what do y'all think actually started
you know, the backlash on j LO and Katy Perry.
I just want to talk about it. So I will
go to you and then we'll go we'll go to Joho.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I feel like Jo wants to talk.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
But okay, my first face was like you said pop,
you said popular celebrities, and I was like, hold on,
can we do the question because I know people love
some people Jlo for sure, right, And I couldn't understand why.
(25:17):
Now listen, you give us girl rom Com. I'm sad,
give her a mic. I don't know how I feel
about that. Okay, But Katy Perry like, like Jo, I
can say earned it, But Katy Perry like okay, and
I rock what I was a kittie cat for the
first two years, for the first two albums for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So there's this article right where she says that she
regrets she regrets the Spaceship Bride only because she wishes
the video from Into the.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Pab was never shown. And this is so, this is
this is this is my thing. Girl.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You knew from jump this was a pr stunt, right
and you decided don't do you don't be bad because
you was a clown.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Like you was a clown and then you have a
circus girl. You you knew full what were you doing?
Did that Dan Daisy into the damn thing and started
flashing through the thing. And then here you live at
her flat. You know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You don't be mad that you don't be as bad
at your stump backfire bitch like that, Like, do I
think I deserved Yes, because miss girl is trying so
hard to be relevant, like and she's just like, it's
like you're doing all the wrong things. It's like literally,
whoever her, whoever her PR team is needs to get
they are not giving her the right.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Things to do.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
And then she she's made me to use some like
some critical thinking herself. I'm not saying she's like, I
don't think she's dumb, Like I'm not at all. I
just don't think she's thinking about what her career is.
And like, I think I think she sees herself kindly
differently than how other people see her.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I think like.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
She's living in the fantasy. I don't know if that
fantasy pays off for her. Okay, like you, it's like
you can live the fantasy in the fantasy like lives
lives in you, but face lives in her. It's so
like girl, she's just like and like and she she
had had song her album the album. The album was
a flops, a song that like she at was gonna
(27:10):
be like like a woman's empowerment and was like this
is song is so bad. And she made that song
with someone with Ebus's face, the guy that everyone's like,
why are you working with him? Like she's just not
making new decisions for her career.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So girl, you want to know why people are mad
you because you do a dumbas shit. So yes, it's deserved.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But also but also like critique, every critique, every artist,
girl like the day at the end of the day,
even gaking live.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Off of her. Why why was she in that thing too?
While she in there? By SUNTI in there?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And why aren't and and this is also sad because
she had she had two days of everyone living for
her for that damn bout and then she's over her
mouth and be like have you been have you been
with You haven't been until today, which you mean have
you been before?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Girl?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You guys go to space? Will be nearly like I
just forg just think it goes go to space. So
critique all celebrities, they all just all deserve the day.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I deserve it.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
What about you star anything that you have the thing
about it is like I don't know if I feel
like the thing is that if they don't realize that
it is that they are a meme, that's where they
lose their power in it all. Like with Katie for example,
I'm like, now, she went there and she did that
all on purpose to be funny. I kind of I
(28:21):
rock with it, honestly, because I do think that we
live in such a farce like society, like yes, like
let me just be insane on this plane or shuttle.
I guess like for the for the like hilarity of it.
But I don't know, like, as you said, I don't
know if she thought of it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
That way, Like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, Like if you're in on the joke, girl, then
that's great.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
But if you if she isn't on a joke and
she's like pulling a stunt right now, then I think
it was an effective stunt. And the fact that she
is like completely memes like all of you know, like
everybody is talking about Katy Perry now, j Loo, I
don't know what. I don't know what Jenny from the
block dig, well, what does she do wrong? I don't
(29:04):
know why people hating on her?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, but quickly. But no, I don't like and again
I don't want to come across as petty because like
the thing is, like I I just I'm noticing a
trend of people turning on celebrities, and I guess I'm
trying to question of like what do I need to
do to make sure that our listeners don't turn on us?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Right, there's no hope really in the comments, people are
just monstrous.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
If if I become that famous without my money, honestly,
girl turned on me, that's fine because because what I don't,
I'm rich, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
As people turn on minor celebrities, major celebrities.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's just kind of like, don't do dumb ship Like
I'm not gonna be in a spacecraft flopping around my
little my little daisy, Like that's just not what me doing.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
And now I might, like I might just but I
feel like it would be like in a shake and
go wig. It would give kind of performance. I mean,
it might give me Katy Perry in the spaceship Gil
King's the judge and we're lipsicking.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
For our lives years. It would give I would be
up in space. Do you remember Britney Spears is born
to make you happy video. That's what I would be
given in space. Like I'd be in space with a
crop top on and I'd be dancing with a whole
bunch of dancers like in a spaceship singing. I was
(30:35):
want to be happy.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, Like now this is a genius. Now this is
a genius. We should say this to Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, lip singing for lip singing to combat down to
Earth like svivorspace, lip syns for gravity.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
If you can't, if you can't were in the ship
for eight months, have them up there. Yeah, if you
stay up there. If you don't, yes, but if you live,
sing for your life and you actually win, you get
to come back to Earth. That's real.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
And I would be kick flipping in that anti gravity
is so crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Everywhere in that damn place.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Okay, yes, yes, So I don't know if we have
time for this question, Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Do we still have time or no? Do we need
to push you know?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I have I have fifteen minutes, so I think.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, I'm going to ask this question real quick, real spicy,
and just we're gonna go there and then we'll we'll
run out of here. I want to ask this question
real quick, and I know it's spicy, and I know
it might get us in trouble, But Star, I want
to ask you specifically, are you making any predictions on
what celebrities who might get canceled next? And we're looking
at you, Gail, I don't know. I feel like and
(31:57):
we can bleep their names if you want.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I don't really know. Honestly, I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, good, Well this is just a This is just
a segment to tell that if you are a celebrity
and you're listening, girl, watch you know what.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like this is where you can do.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You all can take a page from Beyonce's book. She
don't say nothing, and people drag her for it. But
the real least she can't say nothing. She won't say nothing,
give her more in trouble. She keeps quiet. Mom's the word.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
So like, oh, you know what, someone will get canceled
new a Disney Channel celeb like grown up one.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I'm guessing that's next?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (32:36):
What is.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
It?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
The Christ? Is it spin Carpenter? You mean espressal girl?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Oh my god, is she a Disney Channel person?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
She is? She is?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Think ay thinking Raven.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
No, I'm just I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Just I just kind of like like my my like
I talked to my psychics and you know, my into
I just was like someone from Disney.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Okay, okay, honestly, baby, oh you know what, Well, we'll
wait n Z.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I'm sure I am sure.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Would be like a girl.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Okay, Oh my god, okay, sorry, then you have to
cut it out. Also, my god, crazy the pope died.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Sorry, I love there were three segments and you're like,
oh god, a pulp died.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Here before.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Wait, so that was that was the first thing we
said early top of the.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Process.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
She said, ship the pop yes here, Oh my god. Okay,
y'all we gotta say he he my Molly we en
danger girl. We know you know, MOLLI Ninja girl. We
know who won't be in danger.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Uh sucks you.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Sorry, Molly, you're in Dianja girl. We are not because
we might have business a pair of bills. Okay, bills,
we got a few more to pay, but with more
russhow in your favorite segment and just went back inside.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
All right. So with that being said, we're gonna go
ahead and jump into our last segment, and this is
where we ax the dolls we ask everybody what are
the things that you are celebrating this week or what
are the things you are not? And so with that
being said, as we get into our guest ma'm and
our no Man Pam segment, I am celebrating this week
(34:48):
the idea of black owned bookstores. I had a chance
this week to actually go to one in Las Vegas.
As you all saw, I was at the Analog Dope
store doing a talk with the wonderful Andre who does
a whole bunch of lg. Andre Wade is their name.
They do a whole bunch of amazing queer work in Nevada,
and so I just wanted to make sure that I
(35:09):
posit that. But all that to be said, just being
in conversation with them, being around black people, being in
a black store, it was all a black queer owned store.
I want to make sure I make that very very
clear and queer that it was an absolute amazing experience.
And so yes, if you have a chance, if you're
from Vegas, if you're a listener who's from Vegas, go
to Analog Dope, buy their books, support them. They've been
(35:31):
around for three years and they're doing some really really
cool stuff over there ask for my nomad pam so
as you all know, I live on a plane. At
this point, I want to say nomam to people who
literally don't know the cologne or the perfume. Limit three
to four sprays in a small area. Please, somebody on
my flight and it was cheap. I knew it was
(35:52):
cheap because my asthma started acting up. Sprayed all this
cologne and then got on a plane and everybody was
coughing on the plane for the forty five fifty minutes
we were on the plane. Babe, if you are can
you not like that? Is just my prayer. Please make
sure that you know how many sprays to spray if
you are going to spray perfume or colone before you
get on a plane. I just want to say that,
what are your yes, ma'am's and your nomam pans for
(36:14):
this week?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Love, Yes, ma'am, going on a walk?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Okay, but go on a walk?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Uh no, ma'am. It's so funny. Is also being on
a plane. It's just being on a plane in general.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
It is no ma'am.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Though we have to do it, but yes, it's s
stressful and I've been having the thing where I was
sitting next to this boy, and he was like so serious,
and I felt I had a peek.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Girl.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
You know, it's like when you get on the plane,
you got a pig, You're in the window, and I'm like,
oh my god, like excuse me, sir, like yes, get up.
I was like so pissed, and I was like, girl,
it's not that. It's not my fault. Right, We're on
a plane, girl anyway, So that's my no, ma'am is
people with attitudes.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, people with attitudes, especially when you fly, and it's
like come on, like I like, that's my biggest thing,
is like people take themselves way too seriously in the airport.
People take themselves way too seriously on a plane. I
grew you wholeheartedly and oh my god, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Oh no, no, no sorry.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
I didn't mean to cut you off, but it just
made me think about this, thinking about somebody smelling on
the plane. This funny story because I'll keep it short
with this lady. So I get on the plane. This
girl in Jabi gets on the plane, so she sits
the girl in his job, and then this older white
lady sits in the window and her son's in the
middle so the girl's wearing some strong perfume like ood,
like some kind of ood.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
But it wasn't too crazy. But the lady was like,
I'm sensitive. She's like like I want to meltdown, no,
like vocally, and then she goes yeah. She's like I'm
so sorry.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
She calls to the attendant. She's like, can I move seats?
This girl's perfume is just too smelly. I just can't
handle it. I can't sit here. Can I sit in
the front? Is there open seats in first class? And
the lady's like, no, you can't go to first class
late Oh well, it's just a smell. And she's like, okay,
well there's a seat actually in the back of the plane.
(38:07):
You want to go, say there's this there's open seat
in the back, so we can go ahead and take
you back there.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
And she was like oh well no.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
But and then she's the lady's like, are we gonna
have a problem, And the girl and the job is
like looking around and she's like.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
No, I don't have a problem. I love all people.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Wait, I love This is just so much to happen
on a plane, I know, And she starts crying.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Oh of course, she's not.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
She's having a breakdown and now everybody's looking around. But
she she was a white lady.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Okay, of course.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
So then her son goes, he turns and say, Mom,
you just need to quit it. Yeah, and then in
a discussion, so that was.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Just yeah, I tell I've been saying this, and thank
you Janelle James for giving me this in my my lex.
I kind of want to make sure that I don't
say it as if it's my own. But Janelle James
has a whole if you have seen her comedy special
on Netflix, please get to it. She has a whole
thing on Netflix where she talks about bus people being
on planes now and that is literally what it gives.
(39:10):
It very much gives. There are a lot of Greyhound
people that have literally started going, have been choosing to
go to the sky to fly, and it is literally
what it is giving. So yeah, I definitely, as someone
who has literally flown almost seven times this month, I
feel this conversation in my sir. Yeah, girl, I have
been back. I've gone to New York. Okay, I have
(39:31):
gone to Portland this month. I have gone to where
did they just come back from? I went from Austin
to Vegas and now home, and then next week I'll
be up in Berkeley. So yeah, I have literally not
been home for more than a week before I have
to fly again this month, all because of this book,
which I'm very thankful. I'm grateful for, but I definitely
feel this conversation deep in this like the bowels of
(39:54):
my shindow. All right, Joho, what's your yes, ma'am and
your no, ma'am?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
For this week, Pam for this week is to miss
on your nerve? Yes, guad.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I know two episodes ago, I think I think lots
of petographic time is Thomas construct these days we talked about,
you know, drag race someone. It's like who might win,
what you might think, what we might think. And I'm
just really pleased on a nerve one. I know people
probably are mad about it, and I understand that, Like,
arguably I do think that.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
One was better than the other, the finalley, but.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
The consistency, okay of well of the other queen, like
on a nerve was it like consistently was amazing. Consistently
was tops Like I'm sorry, but that's our queen right there.
Like I would be happy if Jewels won for sure too,
and also like on your nerve is the entire embodiment
(40:51):
of Charisman's nerve and talent. So live la love her
so much, my noma'am pam is. People cant even hear
transplants are homophobic.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
You don't need to.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
You'll need to knock it off and calm down. That
is genderferinge care. You used to leave goops, knock it off, like,
I just cannot deal with people who were like who
are you? Who are doing things who are altering in
their body and that just hair transplants like people who
are altered their bodies to feel like better themselves. Somebody,
let's live be genner fer being care. So you're trying
to outlaw that for folks, not realizing that you're getting
the same thing, like you're trying to get a front
(41:24):
of your gender girl.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
So guess what, that's genderferming care.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
So so I put that out as a you know,
as a foud for thought for some people, because that's
still how it works. So then's something you're gonna try
and find it and say you hate square pulps and
transfers especially, recognize that the ship you do in your
body is also genderfer being care. And if you want
to allow outlaw us, outlaw yourself to a girl. Otherwise,
don't do a babes. Don't do it, babes.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay. Yeah, Well, with that being said, now that we
all have gotten all of these wonderful things off of
our souls, please send us your thoughts, your feedback in
your email at Blackfatfempod at gmail dot com. You can
also send us your via social media by interacting with
our post on Instagram and Twitter by using the handle
at Black Fatfinpod. Queen Joho. Where can the Dolls find you?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Of course you can find me at Johanna's across all socials,
my website at jorinails dot com.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
And if not there you can find me girl. I
have no idea.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Just find me somewhere on the streets. Hopefully on the
street is wholly at my house, just chilling, just.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Chilling, Star, Where can the dolls find you? Or where
do you? Let me ask you? Where do you want
to be found?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
The girls can find me on Instagram at Star amara
su or my personal website Star one two three four
dot info.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You are absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much for being
here with me this week. I appreciate you the house down, boots.
I appreciate everybody for listening. As for me and as
you know in my household, y'all can go to ww
dot to John Paul dot com. You can find more
information about my book tour. You find more information about
the book. And like many people have said, they've seen
(43:07):
my book out in the wild, drop me a line.
If you see my book somewhere you want to just
grab it and take a picture with it and shoot
it over. I love to know where my book is
and how it's reaching people. So, uh, thank you everybody
who's been doing that. That's been really fun to see
in really fun to hear. With that being said, we
want to thank our wonderful producer Bei Wang for all
of the logistics and for getting star here. Like we
went through some stuff, but baby, you've made it. We
(43:30):
got you own the show and it yes, God, yes,
so we got you on this show. So I'm really
happy to have this in our uh and and you know,
as we're coming up on episode one point fifty, we're
very happy that you are a part of that legacy.
Wow said, yes, babe, we made it happen.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, iconic behavior very.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
That very that you are Episode one and so we're
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(44:32):
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(00:20):
going up and down like the stock market. The one
thing that is steady around here is mother is here
for an app. How are you today, Joe? How are think?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
First of all, girl, I am in fluorescent lighting right now.
This is criminal, This is nasty.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's not giving. Girl, I think I look so nasty?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Was the overhead light? We being uncunt?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's giving very uncundy Like I have the Kisminius talent.
But the lights are not are not my friend today? No,
poor lighty is giving a right my girl?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Backup boss in the.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Twenty five like, what is happening? But Anyoney's family is
your girls joining a cage shot. I'm here to tell
you all that I am done with everything. The reason
I'm just done with it all because I can be
because Peach I was tired. Oh my god, I am
so tired. Like I woke up today and I said,
(01:19):
why why am I why am I awake.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I want to be invested like the world. The world's
come too far, like Pope.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Listen, the Pope is the Pope left.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The Pope is not in the streets like that, because
I will get, for sure, knock on my door by
super service.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
But so Chris Bakes, you blew that part. But you
know people are here killing people in the streets, okay,
because I'm not dragging my ass.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
God, because the Pope said, who what what somebody else?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
There's there's, there's there's. It was like a beam of
like I want to say, it was like your housewives
are the house are likely bad Backgrols club. But like
the girl straight hand some sugarhand.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And then she walked away and she was like sugarhand.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Her spirit bit me she had and I said, that's
what's appropriates said, and I was taken out.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
But also.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But but you know what, you know what though even
though the Pope is up out of here, we are
we are not alone by ourselves today. So what I
will say is this today we are joined in our
third seat by a doll that both you and your
mama loves. She is a writer, composer, director, and activists
whose work has gone her acclaim from both Billboard and
(02:36):
Outfast Girl. Now let's clock it, clock that tea. Not
everybody gets on Billboard's radar. I just want to make
sure that everybody named Mama know that. So today we
are joined by the one and only Star Amrazi. Did
I say that right?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You said you were close enough? Diva, it's star.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I'm I'm a ross Sue. Okay, I know that's right. Well,
I tried, but thank you so much to be in here.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
How is you slated?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I'm doing good, girl, I feel very much the same
kind of like day by daying at this very moment
in time.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yes, yes, girl, as we all are right there.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
With both of you both.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I had to go outside, said I wanted a hike.
I said, let me go ahead and talk to the
spirits in the forest.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And then come come come on Shinto about us, which
we will get into later, because all about I know
all about Amatu.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Okay, girl, we'll get into her later.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Episode.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We're gonna give our girls some flowers with Sisha Campbell
and are still here sing. I'm kicking off asking asking
you something that Star rebels in Daily want to ask
the question for all of us here. What doesn't mean
to serve ce un t cunt baby. I know, for me,
it's just a whole presence. It's like it's a way
of life, a way of being. It's one of those
(03:59):
things you you gotta talk about if you are about
you know what I mean. Like, it's just you know,
you know you ain't gonna go traffic. Could you stay
in your lane? Did you feel your best? Everything that
you do and you look your best because you're feeling
your best? You know, Like it's just like like like
if you have to try and explain it, you don't
have it, you know what I'm saying, Like, not has it?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So that's what means to me. I'm curious what means
to y'all though, Yeah, you first and whist sean.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Okay, Serving cut is what we're talking about. I feel
like cut is a state of mind, and like your
version of cut is your version of cunt. I think
having that confidence to serve whatever you're serving. If it's
I'm the garbage man, then that's your that's what you serve,
and you see you better serve it well if you're serving.
(04:46):
I'm the assistant manager to the regional manager at a
paper company, then that's what you're serving as well. And
you know, for me personally, I just think that I
am one of the most iconic dolls. Yes, I know,
that's right of the modern edge, and so that gives
me a joint of pleasure to serve cunt really.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, wow, what a moment.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I never understood what serving cunt was until I started
realizing that a lot of the ways I felt about
myself were rooted in anti blackness, fat phobia, and queer
phobia and so like, once I was able to get
out of that mindset, I was like, oh, I'm that bitch,
Like I really am that girl. And it just when
I started to like really embrace my softness and my feminists,
(05:30):
when I was getting my nails done, when I got
a good, good bag to carry, it just all started
feeling like, oh, I'm that bit, like and you can't
take it. You you know you can't. So yes, So
I agree that kunt is a state of mind. And
I see people look at me and try to compute
my energy and it's like eat it, dull, chump, chom
(05:52):
chom chomp, chomp, chom chump, Like you can't the afterglow
of my Louis Vauton perfuses. You can't take it right
like you'll care, they'll me and you'll never be us
on a good day, like all three of us. You'll
never be us. And that is the that's the that
is the moment, that is what kind is.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They're not even on your best day? Will you be us? Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And you're still going to be at the bottom, like
literally you'll.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Not saying.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I always think of that song Gucci Gucci, that like
this old ass song by Kreas this girl but when
she but when when she said, why are you looking better?
I'd be looking better. I'm just like, girl, that's exactly
all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You're looking big and I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Better, bitch, okay, why are you looking better and better?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I was thinking about this because recently, too, I like
went viral and then I get a lot of weird
comments from the fans, and I'd be like, oh my god,
this is so crazy because and and they're kind of
me and like they want me to be constantly producing.
They want like all this stuff, and I'm like, girl,
you all need to calm down because.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I could take it or leave. I don't have to
do this.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I'm beautiful. I've had sugar daddies have had like man like.
I don't have to like do any of this. I
will leave this all behind and move on to a
different world like the girl. I also could get a job.
I'm just like a lot of these people do not.
They can't go from my idea, the conception of the projects.
And that's that's the skill in itself.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Weak.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Okay, sorry, we know that. What I'm screaming. You said,
the only concession you got is when you were born girl,
that's it.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Another and that we have gathered the girls but serving
but serving charisma.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You needless nerve and talent they give them. Maru, we
have to get a quick break to play some mills.
Be back with a que Conbo will start more, and.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Justin said, all right, y'all. So as we dive into
today's conversation, I wanted to understand one thing I had
when I was doing my Instagram stalking, which I always
do before a guest comes on. There's something that you
(08:19):
talk a lot about in your work, which is the fantasy,
right and talking about the future and talking about all
of those things right, how they connect. And so you've
mentioned that you strive to live the fantasy in a
world that's actively working against you, which I absolutely love
and adore, and so that term the fantasy and all
of all of these words, right, these all the things serving,
(08:40):
all of these things have been things that we as
the queer community and trans community have used to kind
of express ourselves and to talk about who we are.
And so sometimes, you know, I do know one thing
that I've been thinking a lot about is how the
fantasy can be lethal for our trans siblings. And so
I wanted to ask you in this moment, you know,
what does it mean for you to eg xist and
(09:01):
thrive in the fantasy? In this current moment, I think,
like it's so interesting because I do feel like I
live in my own world sometimes, and I live in
a place like I'm in California, I'm in LA where
like I don't feel othered, super othered walking around as
a transperson.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I don't really feel that way.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
And I also have privileges having being like more surspassing
like I have privileges so I don't necessarily on my
day to day deal with sort of like actor transphobia
I think what I did with more than anything is
anti blackness and like misoge noire, and I think the
fantasy for myself is really I just sort of built
(09:45):
in my mind this idea that like, I am sickening,
and sometimes when people are hateful, it is because I
am just so sickening that they cannot simply take as
we said earlier. And I think that is something that
really does help me sleep at night though, because it's
like I could be upset about something happening. For example,
even today, I was like this, I've recorded a song
(10:07):
with somebody and I gave them all these ideas and
I was like, you should use the sample of like
Tyra yelling at be quiet Tiffany, like that that would
eat in a track. Why when I asked the boy
for the track, I didn't get the track, but I
look on Instagram and the.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Song is made.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yea, my vocals are gone and the Tyra is in this.
The thing that I told him to do is in
the thing. And I was thinking to myself, like, girl,
I'm just so sick. My ideas are just so good.
My it really is really just like, oh, my ideas
are just so good, Like I should really just like
use them for myself anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So no, but is that shally a great segue into
into my question because it's like it's about your about
you being a music artist. So I love I love
like I'm just so sicking that people will take my
ideas like I love that. I love the mindset because
like like it's like you like like you could say
mad bi or be like, I'm just so sick that
people just love people that love just taking my shit.
Like so I am thinking about how you take up
(11:08):
space in the electron pop lane as well, because I
know that you're a music artist. You have done done
electron pop, you electron and pop, you work with folks
still music, especially as black artists, when people don't always associate.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Like like this lane with blackness. I want to know
how do you thrive in this space?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And also like how like how how do you navigate
being a black artist when people do take your shit
like this.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I think it's just it's so funny if you think
about it, because it's like a lot of white boys
and I'm like a white boy can never a straight
white boy especially it's not going to think about like
the fat things that our community creates. And that's why,
if you like, think about internet language right now, everybody
talks like they're adult from nineteen ninety yep.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Like what like everybody talks.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Like adult Like I'm like, oh you you're all literally
regurgitating everything that you heard that has made it into
your ears. And I think it's just it is a
symptom of the times, like people are so desperate for
something that makes them feel different. And I think we
live in a world and this is a lot I
have a larger thought about this, but I feel like
(12:15):
post Black Lives Matter, we are living in like a
reactionary phase to that because people realize that like most
of their culture and most of the things that they
love all came from black people specifically, and now they
felt othered, and so they're just going to take our
culture without having us yep. And in the conversation. And
(12:36):
I think that is why, because they don't want to
feel bad. They don't want to feel bad about themselves.
They want to feel like, oh my God, like oh
I'm wrong or something. And that's why we have all
of these white people who are all sorts of identities.
Now I'm playing identity politics with each other and policing
each other in order to absconde themselves from any feeling
of being the bad guy. And so when it comes
(12:57):
to my music and my ideas, it's like, oh, like,
I don't really like the music industry. I'm actually really
happy that I'm working in other art forms because I
know that film people. Film people always are like, oh,
film is like the most toxic industry. I'm like, actually, music,
I think is one of the most toxic industries.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Agree. I agree, reareheartedly yeah, and we can we can
talk for days. I mean, we've had folks on the
show talk about why they've intentionally stayed independent and why
they've you know, refused to sign contracts and YadA, YadA, YadA,
and so I appreciate you uplifting that. And I can
only imagine what it's like to be, you know, to
be I don't want to say this for it to
(13:33):
come across as it being like dismissive, but I can
imagine what it's like for you to be. So I
love the energy you give. I don't want to say
that you're full of yourself because you're not. I want
to say that you love you more than other people
could ever fathom and I love that. I love when
people are like, I'm that girl and you just have
to deal with it. And I think the industry and
(13:54):
I think society wants to break that down. And I
think that that's one of the reasons why I'm so
happy that you're on the show show because that's something
I feel like we tell all of our listeners that
we want folks to really listen to the show and
to get that message as well, like you have the
right to love yourself unapologetically. You have the right to
have the audacity, and so I love that you're pouring
into yourself. Yeah, so I'm going to ask this question.
(14:19):
I know, Joho, I'll be transparent and saying this is
not a me question, Joho put this question here, so
I'm a rock with it. I know your last name
was inspired by the Shinto goddess. I don't want to
pretend like I know what I'm talking about what I
really don't. So you're gonna educate me in this smoke
inspired by the Shinto goddess. And I'm curious what the
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process of choosing that name was like, and like when
folks transition and choose their name, like what is the
process like, given how different the process may look for
you or for other people specifically in this administration, what
advice would you give to folks who are in the
process of trying to figure out who they are and
what their name might be and how they want to
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kind of show up in the world.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
That's so funny. I love that question. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Thank you both for the combo effects of this question.
When I was a teenager, like sixteen seventeen, I started
going by star and I always liked star Shine, Like
for some reason that stood out to me. I think,
there's a musical hair and they say star Shine. You know,
they think about star Shine that it says hello, And
(15:27):
so I wanted to be star Shine. When I was nineteen,
I had left Austin, Texas, where I was, and I
moved to San Francisco and there was this queer youth
center called Lyric and they had like a lawyer who
would go with you to the courthouse to follow your
name change paperwork. So I was like star Shine kind
(15:47):
of at the time, and I was trying to find
words that meant shining or to shine or something like that.
Like I was like, I want a new I want
something that means shining. So when I was on a
baby naming website, I seen Amatarassu, like it was like
lots of goddesses names and Matarassu was there and I
was like, oh, that's beautiful, like, oh, it's shining one
(16:08):
in heaven. I think it is what it translates too
similar to that. I was like, yes, I'm star shining
one in heaven and so okay, I like thought about
the name. Then a couple of weeks later, I missed
my first appointment to go to the courthouse. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The lawyer got back with me. He rocked with me.
He was like, I know the dolls.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I know the dolls are on all time. So the
second appointment, I go, I know this is a long story.
I'm sorry, but it's not at all. Tell the story, baby,
I love it. The second appointment, I go, right, so
I'm there. I'm like, I'm Morassu. I fill out the paperwork.
We filed the court work paperwork.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I go to court.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Then a few weeks later and the judge is like, okay,
I'm Arassu. My name is side. They notarize the paper.
Why I googled my last name A Morassu and nothing
shut up. I was like, no, I'm Marasu and it's
and then I look and I'm like, Ahma Terasu, and
I was like, oh my god, like I totally spelled
it wrong. And then I was like, that's fab actually,
(17:10):
because now I have my own name. Yeah, I have
the name that a nineteen year old went and filed
paperwork for not realizing that and not double checking that
she spelled it right. And I honestly I feel like
it's so iconic because I know it really is like
real baby Japanese culture anyway, So I'm like, girl, I'm
(17:32):
not Japanese. I'm literally just Amarasu and it's a completely
made up name.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
There. I love it. I love it. That was so cute.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You so much?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, so because I first because like so it's like
I'm also I'm like hugely into gIBIS culture. Manga anime
were all watch my growing up, and so I wish
I thought it was inspired by Nut, which is like
which is an anime where they're they're like one of
one of the special moods is is Ama Terasu. And
it's like like it's it's a star shaped like uh
(18:07):
like ninja art. It's a lot of low Than'm not
gonna get into. But I first I was inspired by that,
and so hearing this is sending me because it's just
so not what I was expecting you to say at all.
And then when you when you said that you signed it,
I'm around su. My first off was like did she
just did she?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
That is iconic.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That is like a behavior like like everything everything you're
saying doing, I'm like, okay, like this, like this is
what it means, like like the joy of living in.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Your world, like the joy living in your own world.
It's so powerful.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Also, like it's like such a direct response of like
this is what menverstation looks like like when you truly
trust and believe in yourself fully and you can do
anything and you're fucking doing it.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And I just I live. I live so much.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You know, your content is so fun and imaginative and different,
and I want to and like different different sense of
like you do so many things that you are multifascitude,
So I want to know, like what inspires you for
like for it when in Surpas you make content, when
you make music, what inspise you to like just show
by your full self, what moves you into.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
These different lanes, you know, being so multi hibernated and
all that you do.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
And our well, often I just kind of go with
my gut. I think we've sort of danced around that
in this conversation. But like my intuition really is like
what I'm followed, I lead, I lead myself by it,
and I follow it, you know what I mean. It's
like I'm just going through I forgot one part to
(19:41):
answer back to something from the previous. Thing is for
the other folks listening who are trying to go through
their processes too, it's like, just stick to you how
you feel. And I think that it touches into the
whole thing of like just go with how you feel.
Like some days I'm like, oh, I really love DJing
like this. I had a show last weekend, and every
time I do like a good show, it always reminds
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me like, actually, I really love.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Music so much like I love other people's music.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I love playing music, I love dancing, and like going
with what I feel joy in has never led me
the wrong way. It's always led me to a great
situations and meeting great people. And I think with the
like Instagram stuff. To me, it is part of a
job in order to get what I want, which is
to have my own show and to be creating like
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films and be an actress. Really and I think in
our modern day you kind of have to do all
of these things and you have to be your own
promo in order to really be seen. Like there are
casting doctors that are looking at it like people's instagrams
and they're following and shit before they cast them. And
so for me, it came out of like being frustrated,
Like making that first video I made that went viral,
(20:49):
I was like frustrated because I was like, no, I'm
not getting sent any castings, Like nobody's sending me anything.
I'm just gonna make myself like the villain. And I
was like, may I'm gonna give myself the villain and
the angenou in one video and now I'll see multiple
dimensions of me and it kind of like caught on immediately.
And if you notice, like a lot of the videos
(21:09):
I make currently of the AI in the future, I'm
a villain or and I'm also the girl who's like
trying to figure out how the world works. And I
think being both of those girls. Those of those girls
live inside me, and I think, like it's fun to
be able to create a character that is crazy and
doing stuff that I would never do, and then also
be sort of myself. It's like it's a beautiful dichotomy.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I think, Mmm, I love the answer, the answer, and
I love Smancha like hearing you, like hear you say
like like like a g way to show your own
range and to do it yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Like that's just really really fantastic to say, like I
can do both.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I know I can do both. I will do both.
You can now see how I can do both. You
can speak because you know I can do both. I
knew all the above.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I am a one. You are a wooman show like
you could do Yeah, that's just.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
A bisexual batty. You wake it up, Yes, yes, yes, yes,
we have to wake it up.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
All right. With that being said, now that we have
lived our best fantasy in this segment, we have to
take a break and when we get back, we are
going to jump into our journalistic bag and ask some
hard hitting questions.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Oh no, okay, fam we are black and we are back,
and this week we're not jumping pop culture bag this
has been a while since we've done it. John, you
(22:50):
set this up, say you ask a jolistic questions. So
I'm going tells us to you to see.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
What we got in the heart.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yes, I'm laughing right now because joeho waanha sound like
you're in a prison.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
The way I keep my voice down this much.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So for full transparency for our listeners, we have been
the last two weeks have been rough for us on
this show. Last week when internet was going out, and
then this week Joho is not recording at home, so
we are.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Creating also this this new mic. She's sensitive.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I feel like like I hear myself like so lovely,
and I'm like, girl, I feel like I am a
mouse right now.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Just maybe it's just maybe this week. So this week
for our next segment, we're getting into our What's Popping back.
It's been a couple of weeks since we've actually done
What's Popping And for folks turn for folks who have
been following the news the way that I've been following
the news, I have been noticing a trend and I'm
noticing people turning on popular celebrities. And so first it
(23:50):
was j Low and then now I'm seeing everybody turn
on Katie Perry. I laughed because did y'all see that
Wendy's tweet when we did, when they were like, okay,
Perry made it back to Earth, and then when he's
was like, y'all should have left Kennedy Perry there just
like wait a second, like throne Katy Perry to the wolves.
(24:13):
And so I just wanted to quickly just again because
I love being a mixed company, and I know that
we're all a little bit shady. I wanted to ask y'all, like,
why do y'all think that both of them are getting
so much heat? And do y'all feel like it's necessary?
Like I've been a huge Like I'm not a huge
fan of j Lo, So I want to make that
very clear. And I do like some of Katy Perry's songs,
(24:34):
but I also know that she's real dumb for doing
what she did in Space, and so I'm just wanting
to know, like is it me or like what what
started it? Like what what do y'all think actually started
you know, the backlash on j LO and Katy Perry.
I just want to talk about it. So I will
go to you and then we'll go we'll go to Joho.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I feel like Jo wants to talk.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
But okay, my first face was like you said pop,
you said popular celebrities, and I was like, hold on,
can we do the question because I know people love
some people Jlo for sure, right, And I couldn't understand why.
(25:17):
Now listen, you give us girl rom Com. I'm sad,
give her a mic. I don't know how I feel
about that. Okay, But Katy Perry like, like Jo, I
can say earned it, But Katy Perry like okay, and
I rock what I was a kittie cat for the
first two years, for the first two albums for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So there's this article right where she says that she
regrets she regrets the Spaceship Bride only because she wishes
the video from Into the.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Pab was never shown. And this is so, this is
this is this is my thing. Girl.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You knew from jump this was a pr stunt, right
and you decided don't do you don't be bad because
you was a clown.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Like you was a clown and then you have a
circus girl. You you knew full what were you doing?
Did that Dan Daisy into the damn thing and started
flashing through the thing. And then here you live at
her flat. You know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You don't be mad that you don't be as bad
at your stump backfire bitch like that, Like, do I
think I deserved Yes, because miss girl is trying so
hard to be relevant, like and she's just like, it's
like you're doing all the wrong things. It's like literally,
whoever her, whoever her PR team is needs to get
they are not giving her the right.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Things to do.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
And then she she's made me to use some like
some critical thinking herself. I'm not saying she's like, I
don't think she's dumb, Like I'm not at all. I
just don't think she's thinking about what her career is.
And like, I think I think she sees herself kindly
differently than how other people see her.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I think like.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
She's living in the fantasy. I don't know if that
fantasy pays off for her. Okay, like you, it's like
you can live the fantasy in the fantasy like lives
lives in you, but face lives in her. It's so
like girl, she's just like and like and she she
had had song her album the album. The album was
a flops, a song that like she at was gonna
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be like like a woman's empowerment and was like this
is song is so bad. And she made that song
with someone with Ebus's face, the guy that everyone's like,
why are you working with him? Like she's just not
making new decisions for her career.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So girl, you want to know why people are mad
you because you do a dumbas shit. So yes, it's deserved.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But also but also like critique, every critique, every artist,
girl like the day at the end of the day,
even gaking live.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Off of her. Why why was she in that thing too?
While she in there? By SUNTI in there?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And why aren't and and this is also sad because
she had she had two days of everyone living for
her for that damn bout and then she's over her
mouth and be like have you been have you been
with You haven't been until today, which you mean have
you been before?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Girl?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You guys go to space? Will be nearly like I
just forg just think it goes go to space. So
critique all celebrities, they all just all deserve the day.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I deserve it.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
What about you star anything that you have the thing
about it is like I don't know if I feel
like the thing is that if they don't realize that
it is that they are a meme, that's where they
lose their power in it all. Like with Katie for example,
I'm like, now, she went there and she did that
all on purpose to be funny. I kind of I
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rock with it, honestly, because I do think that we
live in such a farce like society, like yes, like
let me just be insane on this plane or shuttle.
I guess like for the for the like hilarity of it.
But I don't know, like, as you said, I don't
know if she thought of it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
That way, Like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, Like if you're in on the joke, girl, then
that's great.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
But if you if she isn't on a joke and
she's like pulling a stunt right now, then I think
it was an effective stunt. And the fact that she
is like completely memes like all of you know, like
everybody is talking about Katy Perry now, j Loo, I
don't know what. I don't know what Jenny from the
block dig, well, what does she do wrong? I don't
(29:04):
know why people hating on her?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, but quickly. But no, I don't like and again
I don't want to come across as petty because like
the thing is, like I I just I'm noticing a
trend of people turning on celebrities, and I guess I'm
trying to question of like what do I need to
do to make sure that our listeners don't turn on us?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Right, there's no hope really in the comments, people are
just monstrous.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
If if I become that famous without my money, honestly,
girl turned on me, that's fine because because what I don't,
I'm rich, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
As people turn on minor celebrities, major celebrities.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's just kind of like, don't do dumb ship Like
I'm not gonna be in a spacecraft flopping around my
little my little daisy, Like that's just not what me doing.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
And now I might, like I might just but I
feel like it would be like in a shake and
go wig. It would give kind of performance. I mean,
it might give me Katy Perry in the spaceship Gil
King's the judge and we're lipsicking.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
For our lives years. It would give I would be
up in space. Do you remember Britney Spears is born
to make you happy video. That's what I would be
given in space. Like I'd be in space with a
crop top on and I'd be dancing with a whole
bunch of dancers like in a spaceship singing. I was
(30:35):
want to be happy.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, Like now this is a genius. Now this is
a genius. We should say this to Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, lip singing for lip singing to combat down to
Earth like svivorspace, lip syns for gravity.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
If you can't, if you can't were in the ship
for eight months, have them up there. Yeah, if you
stay up there. If you don't, yes, but if you live,
sing for your life and you actually win, you get
to come back to Earth. That's real.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
And I would be kick flipping in that anti gravity
is so crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Everywhere in that damn place.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Okay, yes, yes, So I don't know if we have
time for this question, Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Do we still have time or no? Do we need
to push you know?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I have I have fifteen minutes, so I think.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, I'm going to ask this question real quick, real spicy,
and just we're gonna go there and then we'll we'll
run out of here. I want to ask this question
real quick, and I know it's spicy, and I know
it might get us in trouble, But Star, I want
to ask you specifically, are you making any predictions on
what celebrities who might get canceled next? And we're looking
at you, Gail, I don't know. I feel like and
(31:57):
we can bleep their names if you want.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I don't really know. Honestly, I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, good, Well this is just a This is just
a segment to tell that if you are a celebrity
and you're listening, girl, watch you know what.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like this is where you can do.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You all can take a page from Beyonce's book. She
don't say nothing, and people drag her for it. But
the real least she can't say nothing. She won't say nothing,
give her more in trouble. She keeps quiet. Mom's the word.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
So like, oh, you know what, someone will get canceled
new a Disney Channel celeb like grown up one.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I'm guessing that's next?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (32:36):
What is.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
It?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
The Christ? Is it spin Carpenter? You mean espressal girl?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Oh my god, is she a Disney Channel person?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
She is? She is?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Think ay thinking Raven.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
No, I'm just I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Just I just kind of like like my my like
I talked to my psychics and you know, my into
I just was like someone from Disney.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Okay, okay, honestly, baby, oh you know what, Well, we'll
wait n Z.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I'm sure I am sure.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Would be like a girl.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Okay, Oh my god, okay, sorry, then you have to
cut it out. Also, my god, crazy the pope died.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Sorry, I love there were three segments and you're like,
oh god, a pulp died.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Here before.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Wait, so that was that was the first thing we
said early top of the.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Process.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
She said, ship the pop yes here, Oh my god. Okay,
y'all we gotta say he he my Molly we en
danger girl. We know you know, MOLLI Ninja girl. We
know who won't be in danger.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Uh sucks you.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Sorry, Molly, you're in Dianja girl. We are not because
we might have business a pair of bills. Okay, bills,
we got a few more to pay, but with more
russhow in your favorite segment and just went back inside.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
All right. So with that being said, we're gonna go
ahead and jump into our last segment, and this is
where we ax the dolls we ask everybody what are
the things that you are celebrating this week or what
are the things you are not? And so with that
being said, as we get into our guest ma'm and
our no Man Pam segment, I am celebrating this week
(34:48):
the idea of black owned bookstores. I had a chance
this week to actually go to one in Las Vegas.
As you all saw, I was at the Analog Dope
store doing a talk with the wonderful Andre who does
a whole bunch of lg. Andre Wade is their name.
They do a whole bunch of amazing queer work in Nevada,
and so I just wanted to make sure that I
(35:09):
posit that. But all that to be said, just being
in conversation with them, being around black people, being in
a black store, it was all a black queer owned store.
I want to make sure I make that very very
clear and queer that it was an absolute amazing experience.
And so yes, if you have a chance, if you're
from Vegas, if you're a listener who's from Vegas, go
to Analog Dope, buy their books, support them. They've been
(35:31):
around for three years and they're doing some really really
cool stuff over there ask for my nomad pam so
as you all know, I live on a plane. At
this point, I want to say nomam to people who
literally don't know the cologne or the perfume. Limit three
to four sprays in a small area. Please, somebody on
my flight and it was cheap. I knew it was
(35:52):
cheap because my asthma started acting up. Sprayed all this
cologne and then got on a plane and everybody was
coughing on the plane for the forty five fifty minutes
we were on the plane. Babe, if you are can
you not like that? Is just my prayer. Please make
sure that you know how many sprays to spray if
you are going to spray perfume or colone before you
get on a plane. I just want to say that,
what are your yes, ma'am's and your nomam pans for
(36:14):
this week?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Love, Yes, ma'am, going on a walk?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Okay, but go on a walk?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Uh no, ma'am. It's so funny. Is also being on
a plane. It's just being on a plane in general.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
It is no ma'am.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Though we have to do it, but yes, it's s
stressful and I've been having the thing where I was
sitting next to this boy, and he was like so serious,
and I felt I had a peek.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Girl.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
You know, it's like when you get on the plane,
you got a pig, You're in the window, and I'm like,
oh my god, like excuse me, sir, like yes, get up.
I was like so pissed, and I was like, girl,
it's not that. It's not my fault. Right, We're on
a plane, girl anyway, So that's my no, ma'am is
people with attitudes.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, people with attitudes, especially when you fly, and it's
like come on, like I like, that's my biggest thing,
is like people take themselves way too seriously in the airport.
People take themselves way too seriously on a plane. I
grew you wholeheartedly and oh my god, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Oh no, no, no sorry.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
I didn't mean to cut you off, but it just
made me think about this, thinking about somebody smelling on
the plane. This funny story because I'll keep it short
with this lady. So I get on the plane. This
girl in Jabi gets on the plane, so she sits
the girl in his job, and then this older white
lady sits in the window and her son's in the
middle so the girl's wearing some strong perfume like ood,
like some kind of ood.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
But it wasn't too crazy. But the lady was like,
I'm sensitive. She's like like I want to meltdown, no,
like vocally, and then she goes yeah. She's like I'm
so sorry.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
She calls to the attendant. She's like, can I move seats?
This girl's perfume is just too smelly. I just can't
handle it. I can't sit here. Can I sit in
the front? Is there open seats in first class? And
the lady's like, no, you can't go to first class
late Oh well, it's just a smell. And she's like, okay,
well there's a seat actually in the back of the plane.
(38:07):
You want to go, say there's this there's open seat
in the back, so we can go ahead and take
you back there.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
And she was like oh well no.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
But and then she's the lady's like, are we gonna
have a problem, And the girl and the job is
like looking around and she's like.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
No, I don't have a problem. I love all people.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Wait, I love This is just so much to happen
on a plane, I know, And she starts crying.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Oh of course, she's not.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
She's having a breakdown and now everybody's looking around. But
she she was a white lady.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Okay, of course.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
So then her son goes, he turns and say, Mom,
you just need to quit it. Yeah, and then in
a discussion, so that was.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Just yeah, I tell I've been saying this, and thank
you Janelle James for giving me this in my my lex.
I kind of want to make sure that I don't
say it as if it's my own. But Janelle James
has a whole if you have seen her comedy special
on Netflix, please get to it. She has a whole
thing on Netflix where she talks about bus people being
on planes now and that is literally what it gives.
(39:10):
It very much gives. There are a lot of Greyhound
people that have literally started going, have been choosing to
go to the sky to fly, and it is literally
what it is giving. So yeah, I definitely, as someone
who has literally flown almost seven times this month, I
feel this conversation in my sir. Yeah, girl, I have
been back. I've gone to New York. Okay, I have
(39:31):
gone to Portland this month. I have gone to where
did they just come back from? I went from Austin
to Vegas and now home, and then next week I'll
be up in Berkeley. So yeah, I have literally not
been home for more than a week before I have
to fly again this month, all because of this book,
which I'm very thankful. I'm grateful for, but I definitely
feel this conversation deep in this like the bowels of
(39:54):
my shindow. All right, Joho, what's your yes, ma'am and
your no, ma'am?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
For this week, Pam for this week is to miss
on your nerve? Yes, guad.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I know two episodes ago, I think I think lots
of petographic time is Thomas construct these days we talked about,
you know, drag race someone. It's like who might win,
what you might think, what we might think. And I'm
just really pleased on a nerve one. I know people
probably are mad about it, and I understand that, Like,
arguably I do think that.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
One was better than the other, the finalley, but.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
The consistency, okay of well of the other queen, like
on a nerve was it like consistently was amazing. Consistently
was tops Like I'm sorry, but that's our queen right there.
Like I would be happy if Jewels won for sure too,
and also like on your nerve is the entire embodiment
(40:51):
of Charisman's nerve and talent. So live la love her
so much, my noma'am pam is. People cant even hear
transplants are homophobic.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
You don't need to.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
You'll need to knock it off and calm down. That
is genderferinge care. You used to leave goops, knock it off, like,
I just cannot deal with people who were like who
are you? Who are doing things who are altering in
their body and that just hair transplants like people who
are altered their bodies to feel like better themselves. Somebody,
let's live be genner fer being care. So you're trying
to outlaw that for folks, not realizing that you're getting
the same thing, like you're trying to get a front
(41:24):
of your gender girl.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
So guess what, that's genderferming care.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
So so I put that out as a you know,
as a foud for thought for some people, because that's
still how it works. So then's something you're gonna try
and find it and say you hate square pulps and
transfers especially, recognize that the ship you do in your
body is also genderfer being care. And if you want
to allow outlaw us, outlaw yourself to a girl. Otherwise,
don't do a babes. Don't do it, babes.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay. Yeah, Well, with that being said, now that we
all have gotten all of these wonderful things off of
our souls, please send us your thoughts, your feedback in
your email at Blackfatfempod at gmail dot com. You can
also send us your via social media by interacting with
our post on Instagram and Twitter by using the handle
at Black Fatfinpod. Queen Joho. Where can the Dolls find you?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Of course you can find me at Johanna's across all socials,
my website at jorinails dot com.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
And if not there you can find me girl. I
have no idea.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Just find me somewhere on the streets. Hopefully on the
street is wholly at my house, just chilling, just.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Chilling, Star, Where can the dolls find you? Or where
do you? Let me ask you? Where do you want
to be found?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
The girls can find me on Instagram at Star amara
su or my personal website Star one two three four
dot info.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You are absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much for being
here with me this week. I appreciate you the house down, boots.
I appreciate everybody for listening. As for me and as
you know in my household, y'all can go to ww
dot to John Paul dot com. You can find more
information about my book tour. You find more information about
the book. And like many people have said, they've seen
(43:07):
my book out in the wild, drop me a line.
If you see my book somewhere you want to just
grab it and take a picture with it and shoot
it over. I love to know where my book is
and how it's reaching people. So, uh, thank you everybody
who's been doing that. That's been really fun to see
in really fun to hear. With that being said, we
want to thank our wonderful producer Bei Wang for all
of the logistics and for getting star here. Like we
went through some stuff, but baby, you've made it. We
(43:30):
got you own the show and it yes, God, yes,
so we got you on this show. So I'm really
happy to have this in our uh and and you know,
as we're coming up on episode one point fifty, we're
very happy that you are a part of that legacy.
Wow said, yes, babe, we made it happen.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, iconic behavior very.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
That very that you are Episode one and so we're
very happy to know that you are a part of
this legacy that is the Blackfefon Podcast. With that being said,
we also want to say thank you to our wonderful editor,
Chris Rogers, because without him, we wouldn't have no audio
and we wouldn't have any visual for the tubes of you.
And if you have not gone down to the tubes
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A lot of folks are putting that stuff behind paywalls
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(44:32):
Fat Femine fabulous and remember we may not be your
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