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January 28, 2025 • 62 mins

This week, the BFFs are getting silly! We talking about some of our favorite historically Black phrases (see, what happened was...we got inspired by our good judys). Catch the phrases that move our spirit as we talk about how having McDonald's money has healed our inner children. Also, Joho rants about why One of Them Days is a must-see movie.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Black Fat Film Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio
and Doctor John Paul LLC.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Everyone, Welcome to another episode of the award winning show
Black Fat Film.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Where all the intersections of an edity are celebrated.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm one of your hosts, John also known as Doctor
Don Paul, and I want to start this episode by
saying that while I was in Vegas last week, your
girl found a quiz Nos, and I guess I was
living in nostalgia because I am here to report.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Christ was some reporter music over this breaks breaking news,
breaking news. It wasn't good, y'all.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
It wasn't give me what she used to game.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was so disappointed.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I actually saved half of my sandwich and then I
tried to eat the other half of it the next
day and I ended up throwing it away because it
just was not it wasn't good. But I did get
to myself. I hyped myself up, and so part of
this is my fault. But I also I blame you,
Chris Samache. I blame quiz Nos or the fact that

(01:17):
the quality of their food is no longer the same.
But I will say this, I know for a fact
that Togo still knocks because I had it when I
first moved into my new place. And I do know
for a fact that Togo's is still that girl. So
at least we're one for two. At least we're one
one for two. But Quinn knows you can go ahead
and let that go. It's not it's not good. It's
not good anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
And I see why they went away. But oh well,
how are you, queen Joha?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Okay, but what did you get?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Was it like? Was it the sandwich? Could there have
been other things that that the quality of the dishes?
I guess have questioned me first?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, so I thought the moster roll.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
That's a new one for them.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Okay, yeah, well no it's been they've had that for
a while now.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
But for a while, but hands a while. I've had
its in like a good decade. So you say a while,
how long they had it?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Ever since I was in college, they've had that sandwich.
That's what made me get it was because I was
living off of the nostalgia.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
So this is what I think.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think my taste buds have changed since my price
point has changed?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Does that.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
So what you just said is that you have you
you've outgrown the tastic.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
That's what happens, and that's fair, that's valid.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
You're like, I just have different taste ceders now and
the level level has up, and that's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's I live.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
I think I screamed, fam. Okayam, it's your it's your fam.
It's your favorite famous bitch, Jordan or Joe.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
So what can I say?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
When?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
So when what the band happened? Someone was someone who
posted that extra for Miley trying to kill your favorite
famous bitch, and I came back. It's hilarious, But I
gotta tell y'all. Let's gotta tell y'all. Though, please get
up to talk. Please just get up to talk, y'all.

(03:20):
I just want to say, lovingly beloved, y'all. Wild y'all
will to USA A whole band that happened the day
before happened, and then it came out the next day,
thanking the at that point president elect and not the
actual president, like y'all smell a stunt, A stunt hadn't
had in the way that we've had so many of.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Y'all, Like, no shame, no judgment, you know, get your life.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Girls, but the way, because because the way that some
of y'all really jumped into that stunt, and I was like,
it's a chat.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
For me, y'all, just just get off of it now.
Just it's it won't be the same. It won't be
the same. Now, it's nothing will be the same. So yeah,
but yeah, that's me AnyWho, y'all In tradition of celebrating
our girl, Miss Sisha Campbell and the fact that we
are in fact still here. Surprisingly so after after January twentieth,

(04:16):
I want to ask, what with all's going on? Girl,
because that's a lot going on right now. What's either
helping or giving you optimistic? And I'm asking for myself
because I don't know what's giving me optimistic anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Girl.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
I'm just I'm just here. I just I show up.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
To work today and I said, okay, this is all
I got and I left work and I said, okay,
that's all I have.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So what's helping you? Girl?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
That's all I got? And that's all I had. You
know what, that might end up being the title of
this episode. That's all I got. You know, I foxed
with that heavy That is a big move here. Let
me write that down. That is all I got and
all I have. That's a word, that is a word,

(05:06):
that is a Bible scripture, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So what we will say is this.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, I know that you don't have a lot
of words of optimism. I will say this, So one
listening to the song by Sounds of Blackness optimistic constantly
keeps my hand lifted.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
As long as you keep y'all hair to the sky.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's as much as we can sing so we don't
get sued. So I listen to that song constantly when
I start to feel kind of low and feeling as
if things are not gonna, you know, not gonna get better,
and it's it's not even a you know, I know
a lot of people have been using well, God's got
this and God is in control and bump all that.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'm not trying to hear all that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
What I'm saying is I believe, excuse I believe that
in this life we have seen bad things happen, we
have seen worse things happened, and it may feel like
things are getting worser, right, but I definite, definitely believe
that when we look around at what's going on, there
are more people who are on the right side than

(06:06):
there are on the wrong and it may feel like
right now that there are a lot of people who
are on the wrong side of history, because obviously we're
seeing bands, we're seeing people do whatever they can to
stop conversations about equity. We're seeing so many people responding.
What I keep telling myself is this is white supremacy's
last grasp at air, and they are doing whatever that

(06:26):
they can to keep their positions and their placement of power.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So it's one thing I tell myself.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
The other thing I tell myself when I think about
the word optimistic, I think about our show numbers.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'm watching them grow.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I see people reaching out to us and saying, hey,
you know, you and Joho have changed my life in
this way, or you and Joho's show down to the
point like if the show is late, people are hitting.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Me and saying, hey, where is the show? Right?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
We have people who see this show as a beacon
of light for them each week, right, And so that
tells me that we're doing something right right looking, you know,
looking at this idea that we get more mail that
says that of how much people love us and appreciate
us in our work versus people sending us hate mail.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Right, that that tells me we're doing something right. Right.
So what I'm what I'm.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Ultimately saying is is that we could be sitting here
talking about how terrible the world is. We could be
talking shit back and forth about all this stuff, but
we have more people who are who are reaching out
to us and asking us about tours, asking us about
you know more, you know, connects with other big shows.
We're doing the work, and so what I mean by
that is and it's funny because we were talking about

(07:42):
this before the show started for our listeners. You know,
we were talking about this idea of you know, sometimes
people saying we love your work and us feeling like, well,
I wish the work was celebrated more. But I'm also
taking a step back and saying, the right people see us,
the right people are being uplifted by us, and I
think that's the thing that makes me happy. That's the
thing that keeps me going. What I will also say

(08:04):
is this, and I'm going to divert from what I
initially had wrote in our show flow. I want to
shout out Roquel willis Be because I've been following her
for the last couple of weeks. She's been posting a
lot of good stuff, but something she had posted today
that really struck me, and I said, you know what,
because because lately it's been i'll be transparent and saying
it's been real hard for me to be you know,

(08:25):
boisterous and quote unquote flashy about a lot of the
good stuff we've done, that we have happening. You know,
there's just a part of me that there's still that
element of I'm trying to stay humble and not trying
to let this per se, like when I say this,
the book of the podcast, the awards, the recognition, the
people who know me.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Like I'm trying not to let all of that get
to my head.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
But I think that there's something in that that Raquel
had hit on today in one of their posts, and
one of her posts, she had said, we need to
show people that we're thriving as well as showing people
that we're fighting. And I think that for me has
made me really kind of change the perspective of things
that that and the way that I see things. So
I'm optimistic that things will get things will get worse

(09:08):
before they get better, but I'm also very uplifted and
knowing that the right people are seeing us and the
right people are seeing us thrive. So that was my
long way of saying all of them, you know, And.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
I have to just say recall if you, if you're
listening this at all, like seeing you at the People's
March speaking, not that I was there, like seeing the
video of you speaking of people in march.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
It was just really amazing and really.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Like full circle, especially especially from reading her book The
Taste to Bloom. Knowing that you know, she began the
Woman's March and was cut off to now new speaking
in front of how many thousands of people at the
at the People's March is really really really amazing. And
I love that point about we have to show up
with thriving as well as fighting, because I think then

(09:51):
it will server people's thoughts of us. People think that
queen trans communities or identities are just people that struggle
all the time, but like we.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Actually thrive many many, in many many ways. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
but even this show.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I think this show is a great example of that.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I think, you know, for us to have the platform
we've had for three years, and you know, there are
moments where we're just kind of like, oh, you know, no,
you know, no one cares about black fat fem and
then we get that subtle hit. You know that someone
will either like I said, we'll send an email or
will stop me in the hallway. I had that happen
to me when I was, you know, at Creating Change.
You know, someone ran up to me and said, oh

(10:31):
my god, one, I didn't know you were going to
be here. But also too, I am such a fan
of what you do and I'm so happy that you're here.
And and it hits, you know, it hits, it really does,
because again, you're you're seeing another specifically in that moment,
it was a blackfem person, right, You're seeing another black
fan person who was seeing you and giving you not
only are they validating you, but also at the same time,

(10:52):
you know your work is validating them, and so it
may feel, you know, it may feel like at times,
you know, we don't know we're doing the right thing,
or we don't know if what we're doing is ever
gonna really quote unquote make us successful, whatever the fuck
that means. But the reality is is that it's still
we're telling a legion of people that they have the
right to exist and they have the right to be

(11:14):
happy in who they are as they exist.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
And that, for me is what makes me optimistic.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
When I stay out of that mindset of they're taking
my rights away, and they're trying to take my job,
and they're trying to take my money, and they're trying
to make my life living hell.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
When I live in just that, when I.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Live in just the moment of us two sisters are
sitting here and we when we laugh, and when we joke,
and when we when we when we when we you know, Kiki,
about shit that nobody cares about obviously, right, no one
cares about poisonos.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
But it's the idea that.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
We find fun and we find joy and that five
minutes that's that's five minutes of joy that the right
can't take from us.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So that, for me is what makes me so optimistic.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
And I'm trying not to get emotional thinking about it,
but I just really wanted to say that, like, we
have the right to be optimistic and joyful, even in
moments when we feel like all we are, all we
have is darkness.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know who good?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's the power.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, So I just I really felt that today That's
what I've been sitting with. But Anyway, all that to
be said, well, now that we have breathed some light
into what feels like a very dark room, we are
going to spread some joy in our next category where
we just this episode we just gon't be silly.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
The last two.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Episodes pretty heavy where we recognize that and in the
midst of us having to do what what was serious
and doing what's necessary, we also can have a little
bit of fun. So that's what this episode is. This
episode is nothing but fun, and we don't have a
good time. So we will be back after we pay
some bills more in a second. Okay, so this week

(13:03):
we wanted to take a literal page out of our
friends to the show, Jared with two T's and Treville
Anderson's book, which you can find linked to the show notes.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
It's historically black phrases, and so we might have.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Mentioned this book some moons ago, but you know, a book, books, books,
last forever, honey. We loved black menature, and so we
wanted to take a page out of their book, and
we wanted to acknowledge some of the black phrases that
we think are absolutely fantastic co and that that drive
our life. And so with that being said, I saw
a girl do what what inspired.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
This episode was? I saw a girl on TikTok. I
wish I had her name.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I wish I knew the actual TikTok I saw a
couple of months ago, and she was talking about the
five different ways that you could say girl, and also
kind of like the extension of like basically in that way,
the extension of the Black Telepathy episode that we had.
I think it was like episode one twenty five or
like one twenty six, but we talked about black to
epathy and this idea that black people can say something

(14:02):
and and all they have to say is like one
word and they don't have to say anything else.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
We all know. That's kind of what I wanted to
give with this.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
So like how these phrases are so historically black, but
they're also like we don't have to have to pay
life to know what these what these you know, phrases mean.
And I think that's the really cool part. So I said,
let's discuss that. Well, we'll go ahead and discuss that,
we'll get into some other fun and then we'll we'll
go ahead and push the you know, we'll push the
vote forward. So with that thing, said I wanted to

(14:30):
ask you this list that we have, so we have
quite a list.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Of historically black phrases.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I wanted to ask you which ones are the ones
that speak out to you and why you know so the.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Ones that are in my common vernacular exactly fool so
and so as out here make me like making me
look like the fool. I know who Boo is, and
I don't know why bo was a fool, but fool
me got me look look look like him. No, ma'am, no, ma'am.
I can't stay vicious because.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
That often and it makes me laugh because it's so true.
You'd be like, not like.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
And and and you gotta be like Boo the fool.
You can't even say boo Boo the fool. You say
Boo the fool, Like this is doing that, so that.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
For sure, See, hockey dory is a honky dory and
everybody everything is honky dory.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
So true. Oh my god, I've heard that in so long.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
But you are sorry, which also makes me laugh because
when they say when they say honky dory, I know,
honky used to be a term that they would used
for for for the palm color people. And so I'm
like you say honky dory was what that means? I
definitely I I definitely say.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I never say.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
I never say you ain't you ain't never lie.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I love I. I love to say.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
So my dad was says a lot, but what if
he walked a lot he was, he would be like
he but my dogs are barking, and I and like
nowadays when I like, if I if I, if I
go out to the club, I come up home girl. First,
I said, my dogs is barking, y'all. My dogs is holling,
how like i'd be my my my poor feetis just

(16:18):
be going through it. I love to say to two
shakes of a lambs sail, which is fun. I got
with my sister live Off, love her for it. But
I think the one one that I don't say often
by love them. People say it because it's just shitty
boots down. If you like it, I love it, because
I'm like, first of all, that's actually not true.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Because because like like, no, if they like it, you
don't love it.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
And and also if they love it, then what do
you do?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
If you like I love it, girl, you don't.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
You don't love them, You don't love it more more
than I do. So don't don't not here lying to me,
I hear, make me out here look like it comes back,
but that's that's me.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yes, No, I live these ones here, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
So I put some of these down because, as you
all know, so my daddy's family is from ar Kansas,
which is Arkansas, and my mama is from My mama's
family is from Mississippi. So all they ask is a
hell of southern and they all have Southern ass sayings
and things that just kind of jump out every once
in a while when we're having conversations. And so when
I was talking to my mom the other day, she

(17:27):
was talking about somebody in my family and she was like,
you know, they never like to believe that fat meat
is greasy, and I know what that means, right, but
if you set that to anybody else, they would say what,
like what does that mean? And so one of my
favorite historically like you going to find out that fat
meat is greasy basically meaning.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Like you go you keep fucking around like it's basically
fuck around and find out.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
That is that is what is easy?

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I mean, I'm like, actually, yes it is, yes, it
is andy.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Some of the other if you know me very well,
you will find one of the things that you'll hear
me say randomly is they ain't got two pennies.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
To rub together.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
So that's another way of saying two broke people or
some people who ain't got no money constantly going out
doing stuff, but it ain't got two pennies to rub together.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Basically just saying these people's as broke or aren't even.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Say it about myself sometimes, man, chay, I ain't got
two pennies to rub together, meaning I.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Ain't got no money, I ain't got nothing for you.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Another favorite that lives with me is God knows my heart.
So if I do something and I know that I
didn't do it out of malice, or I didn't do
it like I forget something or I messed around and
I'm like, oops, I forgot, Like God knows my heart.
God know the God knows my heart.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Other other ones we love. Whose man's is this right?
When people start acting up?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
That's more of a New y praise, though that's more
of a New York phrase. I feel like people in
New York say that all did. But that's a very
very historically black one. But this one, this one is
the one for me, you got the right one for
the wrong.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Day, because sir, should go off is there.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
They are in fact not the right one, but it
is the right day for them to go.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
It's truly, it's truly uh with the word like would
be a oxymoron or like a paradox, like it's paradox
like you.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Actually have the wrong one, reckon, I would recommend. So
this is my thing for our non black listeners. If
you ever hear, even if it's not you directly, who
who hears this phrase, If you are in a space
and you hear any black person yell out you got
the right one on the wrong day, my advice to

(19:52):
you is to get out of sight shelter because because
that black people don't just so so I said, black
people don't just walk into spaces and act up right.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
There are people who do.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
There are some black folks who do, but it's just
very very rare. So when a black person is pushed
and then they finally get to that point and then
they scream out, you got the right one. Let's let's
let's let's even go here. Let's go here, joho.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
If you hear a black person scream, see what you're
not about to do ah damn mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Means what you don't want is to be in the
gross areas by accident. You don't want what you don't
want to catch on smoke because that's what happened to you.
If you, if you happen to be around unfortunately, like
black Rage, you would be a casualty of war. If you,
if you are, you're in the cinity girl and you
I'm sorry, but you you can't be un set with
us for what if you catch astray.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
You can't be upset because because you took you took around.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
And we warned you as listeners, we warned you that
this is the that's time for you to get out
of dots. What I will also say is this that Sony,
so you you played Mortal Kombat. I'm sure right, but Belise, yes,
so I'm just making sure to like to sue, Yes, yes,
yes that part. So what I will say is this,
if you hear see what you're not about to do,

(21:19):
or if you here first you got the right one
on the wrong day, see what we're not about to do.
Is that's a fatality. That is a straight up cop
send it. Sure, that is what I would screen. That
would literally be me if I heard that, like, oh
time ago, because I'm about to go out. So you
just want to share that. We got a few more

(21:40):
that we want to share. I love to say if
it was a snake, it would have bit me. That
is one of my favorite ones to see. And then
so what had happened was that?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Listen, that's when you know the good tea is coming.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
When I said, buckle in, bitch, it's time, it's time
for that part, it's totally they're about to go in
for a ride.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
So I held a couple of honorable mentions.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't know if any so the one at the
bottom and lost it honorable mentions?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Do you have any honorable mentions that you.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
So you so this is in there, and I love
this because it's like if someone says who made this,
who made the it's never to actually.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Know who made it. For a good reason, it's to say.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Who made this, who made the who made the mac
and cheese, who made it to the salad, who made
who made the meat? Like it's don't tell them, don't
tell me who made it, because then that person will
have to pay. It's it is never for fun, if
I if I if I asked you who made this?
If I said if someone, if someone's at the door,

(22:56):
and I said who who that is? Who is it is?
I don't want have to go guessing this girl. If
someone's i'm a door, I said, and they are now
themselves I answer to a girl. No, I'm I'm done.
What you said, I ain't got popped the piston, So
I haven't. I haven't heard the full phrase before. I
always heard ain't got popped the piston, But you ad

(23:17):
another one that I had not realized was that that
that that completed the sentence. Yes, so, and that makes
me live. I wouldn't throw out because that is so true.
I mean pot the piston for sure. I was like
my dad always that like like and for like for
those who don't know it was, it was just like,
but it's like, if you talking.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Out, you got a pot to pisson. You have a pisson, girl,
And that's how it is. I live. I live. So
those those are my Arma mentions.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah yeah, or people again, people constantly begging for something.
My mama would always say that people were constantly begging.
They lord, they ain't got a pot to piss in
or out of they just broke they.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Know where, Yeah, and it just stays living. Now.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
My favorite that I add it here I love is
God don't like ugly.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
That is very much so true.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Every time something terrible happens, you always say, you know,
God don't like ugly, and so it's just very much given,
very black old saying. But the other one too that
I'm gonna ask, and I've constantly asked if people if, oh,
here do you want to go to this?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Who do you?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Who are coming? Who are gonna beat it? That that
is that is very much giving.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Actually because let me tell you, because because because we
see a.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Friend a friend had a friend that had to invite
me out to hang up with them and their partner.
And then they roll up to my house and so
I go to the backseat this to of the bitches
in the back seat with them, and I was like,
I had I was not prepared for other people.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Girl, what if I was.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Looking a mess? Well if I was this, weatpan? What
about what my eyebes weren't done? I came thinking I
could be safe with just you and your man's and
now I'm here with two other people who I had
I met yet, and like, what's that?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Fine?

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Should do I adapt in real time? Sure, but never
from that one. But whatever, not finna ask me do
I do something? I'm gonna say, who I wanna be there?
Because not because what.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
You're not about to do.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
It's having me look like a fool. I'm like, I
know what's up and then not know what's up with
Ie in the Empire. So I was like, oh, hello,
defriends that I'm not met before and ask me today?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
That is That is one of my biggest I think
as I get older, you know, not to tangent too much,
but that is one of my biggest pet.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Peeves is if I go somewhere and then I invite
you and then I find out, or if.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
We go somewhere we're going somewhere and then you tell me, oh,
so and SO is coming too, and I'm like, but
I don't know so and so or I didn't invite
so and so.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
That's great for so and so if they happen to
be here, cool. I'm not trying to say with so
and so like so and so.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Don't If I if I.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Invite you out and we get and we get to
said place, and you tell me so and so is
coming and then clear with me.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
First girl didn't clear, it didn't clear it didn't.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
You have the right one for the wrong day. That's
what happened.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Politely told friends, Look, you are you are pushing it
by constantly doing that.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Knock it off.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Also, can I say pushing it just just just a
phrase that white.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Folks have gone, have gone? Really well? Is pushing it?
Because I'm like, what are you what? What am I pushing? Exactly?

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Whatever it is, I'm pushing and I live with that.
With that one, you're pushing it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
So there's also another TikTok I saw with a girl
talking about the different phrases that white people created that
uh that that literally ate.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
The one that will always do it for me is
you're on thin ice, buddy.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Because.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Why came up with that one?

Speaker 2 (26:53):
The white folks got that one, right, You are on
fin eyes, not not the guys.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
You are on I know that's right.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yes, every time I hear a white person say you're
on dead ice, buddy, I'm like, absolutely absolutely, you're on
dead ice. So yes, you are correct. White people ate
with both of those. But yes, this was just a
great fun time for.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Us to talk about no one more, one more.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I'll have one more.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Making a dollar out of fifteen cents is very black.
I will say this lastly, this is the last one.
Who made the potato salad will always be kind of
peak blackness. Don't know about care about nothing else. When
you said who made this? I wanted to go back
to that, because you're correct. If anybody asked who made

(27:42):
the potatoes salad specifically, that means that everything there is nasty.
I just want to make sure to put that out
there too. It potato salad. It's not even who made this.
If somebody, if a black person says who made the
potato salad, that tells you that everything else is disgusting
and you should needt there. I just wanted to put
that out there. Okay, we're done a periods.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
I scream, well, now that y'all know what we mean
when we were cackling and cracking the fuck up talking
to you'a on the show. We got to take a
quick break, but we'll be back in two shapes two
shakes of a Lamb Sale to dive into some more
foolish with y'all. MO and just to say, Okay, fam

(28:30):
we are black. And you know, now that we're talking
about black phrases, you probably notice that one one one
of them, one of them that we have that we
didn't mention is someone said the Beyonce of black phrases.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yes, and that is yes, you guessed that, y'all. Do
you have a dollar's money? Do you have Beyonce money?
Do you have X?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Do you have so and so money? So I want
to I want to take this phrase this week and
gotta put a remix on remox because I am sure
that many of us grew up not having the money. Okay,
we have someone some money, someone For this week's how
you healing? What's something that you have purchased or thinking
about purchasing. They might have healed the small partment in

(29:09):
your child, right like, what what? What's the been that
you're actually knowing that? No, I actually do have a
dollar today and and I'm gonna go get this thing.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
So what is it for you?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah? Okay, Well since you put yeah, I'm first. Oh Lord, Okay,
here we go. I love this question honestly because I
feel like, again kind of going back to what I
said at the top of the show, about writing.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
I want to make this very clear to because this
is something.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
That I've been reveling with and I've been kind of
going back and forth with my with myself, right, sort
of sort of important, but also I'm just talking shit,
you know. I hear people talk very openly about how consumerism,
how money, how access to money is not going to

(29:53):
say black people. I want to say I agree with
that wholeheartedly, but I also want to acknowledge that that
is a twofold yes and right. So I don't believe
wholeheartedly that money or consumerism is going to save black people. However,
money and sometimes having money to buy what you need

(30:14):
and sometimes what you want can also help heal a
lot of the pain that you have. And so I
say this as somebody who grew up in a place
watching by single mother struggle very hard to pay rent,
to keep the lights on, to put food on the table,
to make sure me and my brother had clothes, to

(30:34):
make sure me and my brother had shoes, to make
sure me and my brother had new stuff, right, not
even just clothing, shoes, Like, there were moments where I
saw my mom go without in order for us to
have what we have, you know, or have what we needed.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
That for me is something that sits with me a
lot of times.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
And so when people look at me and they say, John,
you're always talking about a brand, or John you're always
talking about your car, or John, You're always talking about
money and some capacit you know, blah blah blah. I
have to remind people that there are a lot of folks,
specifically black folks, specifically black queer folks, who win a
very long time without the stuff that they without pay

(31:13):
no love that they you know, that they needed in
order to survive. And I'll say this, like, I didn't
get to this place like a lot of people think
of me as flashy and a lot of people think
of me as.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
A label war bitch.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I just got here like I am thirty nine, and
up until probably thirty five, I struggled, okay. And when
I say I struggled, what that means is there were
times where I didn't know where my money was gonna
come from. For rent, I didn't know where money was
gonna come for for me to be able to find
an outfit, to go to the shoot that someone wanted

(31:44):
me to do, or to be on this show, or
to do X, Y and Z.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
I just got to this place now where I can
walk in like I had a moment today and I'm
gonna say it for my noman Pam, but I had
a moment today and it was the first time. I
want to say it's the first time that I could
do it, but it is the first time that I actively,
like in my head, knew that this was like, Oh, okay, girl,
You've moved into a different.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Price point in your life.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
And so I say allot that to say to the point,
so I feel like I'm getting very preachy.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I think the one thing that is simple for me is.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
One thing about doctor John Paul is she is gonna
eat out. Okay, I don't care if there is food
at home. I don't care if someone has cooked food
in home. If you've cooked food in.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Home, and I'm hungry right now, I am going to.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Get something to eat. I'm not waiting to get home
to eat. It isn't wasteful, possibly right. But one thing
about doctor John Paul Is says she is not going
to be hungry, and that is because I find joy
in being able to swipe my card knowing I can
eat anywhere and everywhere. I want to eat because growing

(32:56):
up we couldn't. So I'll even say this last week
when I was out in Fade, I took my mom
to go see a show. I took my mom to dinner,
and the bill came and I paid for it, right,
And we were just talking and talking and talking, and
we were talking about something and it came up and
you know, and I asked my mom.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Said, Mom, why didn't we ever do explaancing. My mom said,
because we couldn't afford it. That was just her response.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
We could afford it. And I was like, oh, you're right,
we couldn't afford it. Okay, whatever, right, and we moved on.
But what I'm saying is now I'm in this place
off If you know, I want to go to Spago,
if I want to go to Noble, if I want
to go to Jasmine, if I want to go anywhere
any of these top restaurants, I'm gonna go because I can't,
you know. And so that for me is what brings

(33:35):
me joy, is being able to know and I don't
be that too, knowing that I can go to a
restaurant and pay a meal and my mom can order
anything she wants off the menu.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
That's something for me.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
It's kind of a payback to her of saying like
you struggle to raise me, and now I'm in a
good place, and now you're in a good place.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
You know, you know that That's what it is for
me as well too. It's like it's not buying something
for myself, but being able to give or get some
for someone else, like having the means to give someone
some money or a resource and not and like not
not effected back right, like to do it and be
like and like if if I part with this, that's
actually okay with me, like like or buy someone, buy

(34:13):
someone groceries if the things support.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
That healed mind a child because growing up.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
My dad, my dad would ask my mom for money
to help his kids and eight had ten times out money.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Actually everyone's helping his kids.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
We will go to drugs or drinks like it would
like it went like he was unfortunately lying.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
To us the way it was going to right.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
So like so I grew up one like one feeling
helpless myself, but also being like oh you know, like
like like wow, dad was so good he would like
help all his kids, and then growing up there like help.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Me, I don't know you know, and like you know,
like ask it, I can actually help people, right, I know?

Speaker 4 (34:52):
I was like, wait, girl, you mean all the times
my dad was out here hustling, hustling me for my
allowance lunch money, he was out here is he was
out here doing doing cope. Okay, Wow, I was out
here being I'm not being used about this man, but
my own father live, Dad, live. I love you in heaven,
but God damn well if you're there live.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
Lo love you, but God damn listen you are, but
wherever you are, so you just like like knowing that
can help my people and knowing that it actually helps
them to me is but it was a part of
your own child, right having the means.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
To do to do that, however whenever I want to,
I mean not whenever, because there are times worth somebods
I can't, but like having the means to do so
mostly makes me feel heal because like I'm in the
place that I'm in a place that like my parents
weren't right or I mean.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Or even that point right, like just want my dad.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
You know that I that I actually can do what
I say I'm to do, Like I am studying that
I I do I say I'm going to do nine
point five times out of ten. Because I grew up
with somebody who did not do that, it's important to
me to do that, and so he was my I
shall to say I would show up the way that
I said i'd show up for somebody or myself, because
I have that.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
So, yeah, that's real. I you speak very much to it,
you know.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
And it's like I said, kind of back to my
point up top right, that these are the different ways
of showing you know, you showing yourself. You know where
you've been and where you are now right, and you know,
I understand that addiction is hard, and you know, and
maybe one day down the line we'll do a full
episode where.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
We talk about addiction and how it's impacted that.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
You know, my dad was also a drug addict as well,
and so there were moments where like even my mom
at dinner we were talking.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
My mom was saying, you.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Know, your father took the money out of you know,
your piggy bang, or took food out of my you know,
money out of my wallet, you know, to do X,
Y and Z, And so I think sometimes, you know,
when I think about that, you know, it makes it
makes up for me also one wanting to help my
mom to and leading my mom to having everything that

(36:59):
she wants, but also at the same time too, it
reminds me, you know, of where I've been and what
I've been through as a as you know, as a kid,
and where I am now and why I'm so happy,
you know, even just recently, like I said, you know,
when I was in Vegas, I walked into the Louis store.
Y'all know one thing you gonna know about me and
I I've learned to not have no shame about a
design made Louis Vuitton addicts. I want to say who

(37:22):
I'm a Louis Vuitton addict. I love everything they do
and love this stuff that. I love their perfumes, I
love their bags, of their charms, of everything about Louis Vuitton,
and I just want to you know, I normally carry
a uh travel side set of one of their perfumes.
And I told myself, I was like, girl, you already
on like set number three of these travel was just girl,

(37:43):
like just my bottle because you're out for here spending
all this money on these travel sides.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Did you go in and buy a bottle?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
And I just wanted in about a bottle, you know,
and as you know, as as as much you know.
I saw another black TikToker talking about this. She was like,
if I'm gonna work as hard as I work, I'm
gonna get what the fuck I want. And that's really
like I feel like, if you are a person who
is you're going to work, you're working with a whole
bunch of white people who don't want you there. You're

(38:08):
putting up with all of these things on your on
your plate that you probably shouldn't be doing that work
any goddamn way.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
You're probably not getting paid what you deserve.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Why turn around to come home and be like, oh,
I can't have this because our house to save. Bitch,
if you got amorrow, you're not gonna have what you want.
You're gonna be three feet down in the ground. So
by and again, I say all of this within reason, Right,
There's always there's the adult.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
There's the kid in me, and then there's the adult meat.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
That's how I rationalize thingm The adult met will say, John, girl,
you are still waiting on these checks, slow down, right,
But the.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Child is saying, get what you want. You didn't have it.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
You know when you were fifteen and sixteen, give what
you want. And so when you're when the adult can
talk to the child, you know, and tell the child, hey,
sometimes you got to slow.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Down pay these bills. Been sure, you're good?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
All right, let's have that conversation. But I'm a big
proponent of baby, if you if you got a little
bit of extra coin, take care of yourself, do something
nice for yourself, because the world ain't gonna do it
for you. If you got the McDonald's money, if you
got the Beyonce money, do something nice for yourself. So
mm hmmm, especially now because knows how long we're gonna

(39:19):
have it. My god, my god, what a moment.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
My God.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Is pleasing to me. To God, were saying, you Whitney,
you should still be here. But anyway, all that to
be said, we want to make sure that our McDonald's
money keeps coming in. So we have to take a

(39:48):
short break and listen to some of our sponsors. But
when we get back, we are going to jump into
your favorite segment, yes, ma'am, and.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
No man, Pam will be more and we'll be back
in a second.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
All right, y'all. So we're just gonna go ahead and
jump in.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I have I have quite a few no man PAMs
this week, and so i'll probably I'm gonna start off
my yes man with something I think is don't I
don't so you so you tell me Jojo, because you
you tend to be more of the political one.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
The poly side girl, than I am.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
So I wanted to acknowledge I saw this, and I
don't know if this is truly So this might be
a yes man with an asterisk. So as Biden part.
As Biden left the Oval office, he pardoned Marcus Garvey
on the way out the door, and then he also
pardoned black National.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Here, let me reset that.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
So I don't know, So Chris, we'll go ahead and
cut and we'll reset from here. So I don't know
if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
This might be a yes man with an asterisk. But
I wanted to get your take on it before we
go around. Given Biden's some claps, because right now I'm
only giving him two finger claps.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Really, he's not getting whole clap from me. He's getting
two fingers.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, that's so fair.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Only two fingers.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
But he pardoned Marcus Garvey on his way out For
those of you who don't know who Marcus Garvey is.
He was the black nationalist who influenced Michael Mex and
other civil rights leaders, and was convicted of mail fraud
in the nineteen twenties. Also, he pardoned top Virginia lawmakers

(41:31):
and advocates for immigrant rights, criminal justice reform, and gun
violence prevention.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
So I'm hearing.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
People celebrate these things, but I'm also on my mind
of like, I'm also seeing some people throw some shade back.
So I'm trying to figure out should we be clapping
for for Biden as he leaves office doing this or what?

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, A great, great question. So it's hard.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
It's hard because I'm I mean, this is this is
a challenging question.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Because okay, I mean.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Someone like because someone like so like Marcus Garvey was
a was I think there's some a controversial figure of
a black community in the twenties thirties, I mean throughout
his work, right because he was he was a big
proponent of the like of the Back to Africa movement. Right,

(42:34):
he was he was a black nationalist and he's he
was from it. He was from from from Jamaica. I
believe black nationalists. So like really believed in like you know,
he he he was amazing Black power movement. I'm trying
to figure out how to say what I watch what
I say because i'mna trying to maybe want to make

(42:55):
him a mad for my saying and honestly, the way
I was this is both way before my time I
I am.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
I imagine he did great work, right. He influenced people
like Malcolm X.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
You know, he influced people like Max, He influenced people
like MLKA Junior.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Like. People did love the work that he did.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
And for some people, his work was controversial because it
involved like having an excess from America, which some people
are like, hell, yes, let's do it, and some people
are like.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
I don't know about all that. Right THEO there, he
did believe it, and he did believe.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
I believe I believe he believed in racial separatism.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
You know, so like so like you know, like what
like how like how do you define separation?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
But basically like I know you, I know what you're saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
believe let's let's call a spade of faith.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
And I've heard other black people say this still that
he was part of the people who believe that and
I might be talking out of my ass. But he
from what I understand, he believed that separate was good
for black people, like we were to be.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Not like what would he say, separate but equal.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
I you know, I I can't say that he would
or would not, but you know, but like but but
but he separate was more about us going back to
us to think it's astral homeland.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Right, and so I think Africa, yes.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
And so I think so I think some people are
like yes, some people are like no. So I think
like it's like I think it's it's it's hard, it's hard.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
It's hard. It's hard. It's hard.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
You know. He found it.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
I believe it was the Black Star Line, which was
to provide transportation to Africa, which is also what he
got the mail fraud for, which was like was like
I think like that, like the sale of it was
like a male fraud and the sale of stop for it.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
So like it's you know then that he supported. So
the I think the part of the partnering.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Was good because in the day he was inspiration for
some rights activists and at the day he like as
a black person that point in that time, there's no
doubt that he was disapportionedly like like like disportionally affected
due to due to his raids like by the law,
because why folks have done way worse and gone a
way still much more, you know, and still do. So

(45:05):
I think the part in like, I think it's gonna
celebrate that. And also some people have different takes on
celebrating Marcus Garvey.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I personally, I don't know so much about him.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
I know that he also and he helped heels really
inspired like like a lot like please probably probably inspired
the Black National Islam movement, which let people like Lewis Farakhan,
who I could never say good thing about personally, you know,
and you know, but he also did help people like
really believe in the blackness more and help black folks

(45:36):
have more, really up up with black folks and give them,
help us fulfill them, help them feel more dignity back
in the nineteen thirties and forties. So I'm like, yeah, yeah,
so yeah, it's all to say like two figure claps
things appropriate I want to do.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I want to do a rutous applause. But I would say,
like that is good that he did that, you know.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
But but but in the same way, it's also all performance, right,
like okay, like you're parting somebody who so it's like
solid performance. I think the person you know, the other
Lawmcracy partner as well, Like that is nice. And also
like girl, these are people who I mean some people
who no longer here, some people are who are so here.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I know that he pardoned.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
There was there was I think the name is like
Rabbi Rabbi Rugbier, who was a bit of an offense
and was and was I think was the boarding or
was facing the deportation back to Tobago, you know, to
pardon them, which I think is good because it does
it's just good. It clears their record for them, So
that is good. But I know, like it's hard. It's

(46:35):
just it's all hard stuff. Personally, I feel it.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
I feel it, Okay. So yeah, I saw that on
NBC Black and I just was like, should we be
excited about sister? Should we not? I don't know. And
so I want to say that before y'all start, you know,
trying to say y'all supporting this stuent. No, we know
we are trying to find.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
The nuance like we always do in every conversation that
we have, and I was just wondering if we should
be excited about it. But either way, even if it
is performative, you know, I I do sometimes think that
you know it's necessary, right, It's necessary, so you know
it is what it is? Okay, Well, moving on, because
I was scouring and that honey trying to find it.

(47:16):
I'm good and I just I was like, this is
probably gonna have to do. And and at this point
you just got to take take it where we can
get it. My no man Pam this week, So I
was going to go off on a random nobody gives
a fuck tangent about some stuff, but so I have to,
and I'm gonna go I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna
scratch the original one I was gonna do, and I'm

(47:37):
gonna go ahead and save part of it for after
what I'm about to say. But I'm gonna say this,
and it actually probably relates to some of what my
other one, my other no Manpam wants, So I want
to say this, So yes, this is how it relates,
but I'm gonna extend it and make it longer.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I want to say this.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I've been noticing as I go out to eat, as
I go to restaurants, as I go out to buy things, target,
whatever the case may be. I've been noticing people are
becoming more and more rude to the people who are
working there. And I just want to say, if you're
going somewhere, like, regardless of where you're going, it can be.
It could be a hotel, it can be a restaurant,

(48:14):
can be a plain. Wherever you are traveling, people are
dealing with some really heavy shit right now. Please try
to be nice. Please try to be nice. Please try
to act like you've.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Got some damn sense.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
But more than ever, please stop acting like you're better
than the people who are working these jobs. That is
something that I really hate. And I see a lot
I see very much, and just me being out and
traveling and doing stuff, I see a lot of people
who try to act like they're better than the people
who are helping them. And I'm here to tell you
as someone who's come from that, Yes I worked at Yes,

(48:48):
I've worked in fast food. Yes I worked at a Starbucks.
Yes I've worked in customer service. Like I've done all
of those things. It really like you can need that
job as quick as you think you are at the
top of I want to say that before I spiral
or before I go off about what I'm about to
say off next, right, so balance duality.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
What I will also say is this on the flip.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
I went into a store today and I'm not gonna
say the name of the store that I went into,
and the person was helping me. I was being very nice,
very cordial, trying to you know, go and just say, hell,
I have a question about this that I was basically
I forgot.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Well, idem say I forgot.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I made the stupid decision to not bring a brown
bag with me, and I realized that a lot of
the stuff I'm wearing is brown, and because I have
a type of personality, I am annoyed that I have
to rock a black bag with a lot of colorful
items that I have.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
So that's just me being me.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I went into the store looking for a brown bag
to have with me at this conference, and as I
was talking to the person who was helping me, you
already probably know where this story is gonna go.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
The person so I was looking at two different bags
and I pointed one bag and I was like, Oh,
that bag is cute. Is there a way for me
to find out.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
If that bag is in the store, and the persons like, yeah,
I'll forget the back it's saying, we have three, but
I have to find them. Okay, fantastic. I look at
another bag and I said, oh, that bag is also cute.
The only thing I notice is that it doesn't have
a zipper. I said, do you have that bag in stock?
He looked at me, without even asked, without even saying anything,
he said, yeah, well the bag that that other bag,

(50:24):
that bag is not on sale. And I looked at
him and I said, but baby, that's not what I
asked you. I asked you if you had that bag
in stop like, did if you.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Have it in the store. I didn't ask you. So
what am I? What am I rambling about? I just
I'm I'm really annoyed by black people. I didn't ask
you if it was.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
I wanted to know that's great, either good in the
back or not.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I just I really need people to check so that
that's my long way of saying.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
I don't know if it's if it's the right way
of saying, I need you to check your inherent bias.
I really need people to check their inherent bias because
and I want to be let's let's let's let's ass
also get it to the weeds of it. It was
not who you think who said it to me, Let's
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Really be your awn.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
So I really need people to check their inherent bias
because I just want to make sure people understand. And again,
I don't know if that was my less ballast.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I don't know if that would me.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I don't know if that's to be projecting because I've
had so many bad experiences in high end stores buying stuff.
I don't know if that was his intent. But I
just want to say, like, as as a general, very
general statement out of the projection, just make sure.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
You're checking your If I ask you a question and
your answers and answer my question, what was the reason
you're the answer?

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Like I mean, I mean like, I mean like like
like yes, like, I also.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Want to give you another diventha doubt. And also if
I asked, do you have talk and your response was
it's not on sale?

Speaker 6 (52:03):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Like, what what was the reason why you give me? Answer? Girl?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I like, what do you? So?

Speaker 2 (52:13):
If I had the time to duck walk in that story,
but I was in a rush and I was trying
to find a brown.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Bag before I hit my next meeting.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
So part of me didn't even want to get into
the weeds of being like what what is this? Part
of it was like do you have the bag or not?
They didn't have the bag I left. But I say
that to be to say that my last thing I
want to say on this episode before I throw it
back to you, joho.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Is I am sick and tired. Come to your point
earlier about TikTok.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I'm sick and tired of the niggas who are already
crying about what's happening. Girl, We told you and you
didn't want to listen. The leopards are now eating your face.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Have a nice day. What are your yes, ma'am's and
no mams for this week?

Speaker 3 (52:58):
So my no mam, pam, I'll go that first.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Everyone trying to drag our friend Francesca Ramsey uh for
her posts need to stop. She got lit up for
making a post about it's messy, but like she made
she made she made a post of like she she
she she's more, she's more of a reason than like

(53:22):
x y z is black owned like for her to
support it like that, Actually that that like that's actually
not a hot take, Like let me be there, like
just just something is just something is is like.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Is is insert minority? Insert something owned? Does that actually
not like does not mean that someone out like.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Surprisingly for some people, does not mean that you actually
owe them to do the thing. Also, if you don't
like that, if you don't like that about that person,
you don't have to follow them.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
You don't have to.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
You can just not say anything like like like like surprise,
like she actually and surprising to some always you nothing
she is she is allowed to and abactually feel how
she feels regardless, and also like she's not wrong. Listen,
there are a lot there are a lot. There are
a lot of things that white folks have made that

(54:17):
I do not enjoy, so I don't buy them. I
would rather opt for a.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Black owned, queer owned, Jewish owned.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
That's your own thing because the product is better and
makes sense and it's and it's also owned like bid
the bright Daddy. But like like but but like if
if the product or service is a good girl, it's
just not good. Like people are going up regardless, are
going about like like like that's the issue about not

(54:44):
not using the product isn't that isn't because they're daddy,
because it's not good, like.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
It's like it's yeah, it's just y'all need to calm down,
Like go touch some grass.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
People are.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Dragging somebody and you and the n that same man.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Like trust me, I see things every day from people
that I'm like, this isn't it? And you know I
don't do I don't comment saying this isn't it?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Girl? Why because it actually is.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Not my business. Actually I'm I'm concerned if this person
thinks x y Z. Sometimes I will do something right,
like I've like I posted I posted a story response
to a response to it in response to a response
to well it's something that happened at the inauguration, but
like that's because that's is like I I can target,
I full fine target an organization that I don't align

(55:33):
with in a public way.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
I need to go on a person's messaging and be
like this is like this is a bad take, girl.
All things are bad takes. All tastes are good takes.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Like all tastes are takes regardless like this, leave it alone,
leave it alone, Go go find something else.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
To like have a take on.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
You know that that that for fortunate hours when America
was blocked from TikTok, assume that the people of TikTok
were having a great time. They were like, wait, is
there an actually nice here? And I was like, oh,
it's sounds like maybe I understand. Think you just keep
your pickons to yourself because they actually don't there about you.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Like you can just stop. So manham to that. My yes, ma'am, pam.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
It's to the movie One of Them Days by starring
Kiki Palmer and Sisa and directed by I'm sure you
know I give I give acknowledgement to the director of
that show, directed by Lawrence Lamon this. This movie was
so much fun, so hilarious, Like if you like bries Maids,
if you like girls Ship, I feel like she's like

(56:30):
white Chicks like this is this? Is that that feel
good comfort film. You can watch it over again. That
ship was just snap funny. I would watch this several times.
Sissa hilarious, Keith Palmer obviously hilarious, Like.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
I think that was just so good it was.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
It really was also like kind of like a level
to la in some ways too, especially poignant, giving give
what's happening with happening on with the fires like Super Black,
how had some great black actress like had had Gabrielle Denise,
had Dwayne Perkins in there, like some people that I
love to see.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Kat Williams. Was was a fun cameo. Really, it was
just it was. It was a great, great movie. I
loved it so much. If you haven't seen it yet,
please see it asap because it.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Was so good and I cannot wait for it to
come out on streaming because I will definitely buy it.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
It's a lot of comfort film for me.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I love to hear that. I wish I'm in a
place right now where I don't really have the time
to break.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Away to go see it, but when I do get
a moment of downtime, I definitely do plan to go
make that either i'm a sceneing in theaters or officially
when it comes out on video demand.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I won't make sure that I buy it, just to
make sure that they still get.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Their money, they get their coin for that film, because again,
I like a lot of people same thing. I'm gonna
take a moment to just plug this book, but at
the same time, I'm going to say the same thing
I've been.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
S book girl.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
When you support stuff when it for the first that
those those first couple of days when something drops even
up to it, right, So the press is important for
to tell people go buy it, to go watch it.
But even in that first couple, those first couple of days,
those numbers matter because it tells publishers, It tells, you know,
the companies that are are you know, providing money to

(58:09):
these creators to make these films, that there is a
want for it. And so if we if we're not
supporting the work, obviously it's not going to keep getting made.
We're not going to keep seeing geeky palmmer and really
good you know, I won't even call it a rom com,
but you know comedies that you know focus on black girl,
black people shit. So please please please support stuff. It's

(58:30):
like support in the work of Xavier x D, support
black art, Like we really need to make sure that
we're doing what we can where we can. If you
can't get to the theaters, because I do recognize that
there's still some people who are very anti I'm going
to a theater. Make sure you buy it when it
comes out on video demand, you can make sure you
stream it.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Make sure that you're telling people who do want to
go to the theaters.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
To go watch it.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
But yeah, that's that's a very very very good point.
I love that, and like I said, when I get
some time, I'm definitely gonna go see it. All right.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Well, with that being said, please said that's yourself feedback
in your email two Blackfatfempod at gmail dot com, whether
you want to add it. If there are historically black
phrases that we missed, if there are phrases that we
mentioned that different meanings for you, let us know. We
would love like we love seeing the emails. We've seen
an uptick in them, so it's really really cool to

(59:17):
see that people are vibing with a lot of the
stuff that we're putting out there. You can also send
us your thoughts via social media by interacting with our
posts on Instagram. In Blue Sky but usually had no
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(59:38):
for us there, you will not find us. Queen Joel,
where can the dogs find.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
You my loves as always.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
You can find me a Jojodown's across all socials my
website Joindanes dot com.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
You will not find me my comments section.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
And if you're trying to come at me sideways, girl,
I want to notice why I beloved live lfelove, But
I do.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I actually owe people nothing like those who don't. Don't
try God not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Me, Try God not me. What a moment. That is
a word. That is a word.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
And I also agree in that. Try don't try us.
Try your local church, Try your local mental health office,
Try Kaiser mental Health Services, Try anybody right, Try trailer Joes, Tryaldy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
You can try Jack in the box.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
But don't try us because we are not the one
or the two another historically black phrase.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Okay, but that ass. But that being said, you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Can buy my book at ww dot doctor John Paul
dot com. If you click the little book thing at
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order there awesome really tasty treats that are coming along
with that. You'll also be seeing a little bit more
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kind of just letting people know, like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Hey, girl, come on down, Come on down, go ahead,
and spy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Hairs girl please. You can also find me on all socials,
but you can also exclusively find me on Blue Sky
at doctor John Paul dot blue Well we faxed in.
This is where we think our producer Bey Wayne for
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(01:01:23):
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My god, we are so thankful.

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Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Shout out our wonderful editor Chris Rogers because without him
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Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
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