February 14, 2023 • 12 mins
On today's podcast, Host Ramses Ja looks at Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders and her opposition to the term "Latin -X".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M hmm. It's going with that. This is the Black
Information Network Daily Podcast, and I'm your host, ramsays Jah.
And sometimes the amount of stories that make their way
to us means that we simply can't cover everything that
(00:20):
comes our way. But from time to time, a story
just stays with me and I feel compelled to share
it with you and give you my thoughts. And now
one more thing, Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders Band's use
of term Latin X in state documents. This is what
(00:45):
we're talking about today. Now, those of you familiar with
Sarah Huckabee Sanders UM, no that this is definitely something
that is in her wheelhouse. Uh, these sort of divisive things,
these non inclusive things and so forth. Um, But you know,
(01:09):
there's a lot of people that feel the way that
she feels, and she is the one who has enough
power to make a decision like this. And this just
kind of lets me know that we need to have
these conversations because oh how soon we forget. Um, I'm
(01:31):
gonna do a little bit of reading from CNN Politics
CNN dot com if you want to check it out.
But what I have says Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckaby Sanders
signed an executive order this week barring the term latin
X and the facial an official state documents, saying the
(01:51):
government should use ethnically appropriate language. Um. She goes on
to say the government has a responsibility to repect, respect,
sorry it's citizens, and use ethnically appropriate language, particularly when
referring to ethnic minorities. The executive order read The term
latin X emerged as a gender neutral signifier among Hispanic
(02:13):
or Latino people in recent years, but it has become
a divisive issue among many. Latin X was originally intended
to be an alternative to Latino or Latina for people
who don't identify as male or female, or who don't
want to be identified by their gender. Numerous activists, academics, politicians,
and corporations have adopted the term latin X to be
(02:34):
more inclusive. All right, Um, you know it was watching
a documentary or really a long interview with a gentleman
who wrote a book on double speak. This was recent
(02:56):
and I sent this link to my older brother who
is a is an m c S in a group
called Dilated People's. His name is Rocca. If you want
to look up dilated people's that's my big brother, and
he and I was sent stuff back and forth all
the time. Um. But he's written plenty of songs talking
about exactly how people are easily convinced that things are
(03:22):
not what they are right. Um. I remember a story,
um where the gentleman who wrote this book said that,
you know, there was a court case basically two people arguing,
two companies arguing rather um about whether or not they
(03:46):
could sell chickens as fresh chickens you know too consumers um,
meaning sometimes a chicken is butchered and packaged and chilled
and you can pick it up in a package at
the store, and sometimes the chickens are frozen. Um. And
because of corporate double speak and government double speak, this
(04:08):
you hear a lot with you know, police and all
that sort of stuff, how they use vague language or
tricky language to kind of tell a story. Um. This
court case ended up finding that despite the company storing
the chickens at below freezing temperatures and shipping them, that
(04:30):
if the company called them deep chilled chickens, I believe
that was a deep childer deep cooled chickens or something
like that, um, that they could get away with selling
what is effectively frozen chickens, not effectively exactly frozen chickens,
and chickens were frozen, um, But by changing the wording
a bit um, you could still sell them as fresh
(04:54):
chickens and not frozen. So reason that's important is because
we're gonna look at this sort of double speak here,
this language that's intended to um confuse us readers. I
(05:15):
want to focus in particular on this quote where she
says the government has a responsibility to respect its citizens
and use ethnically appropriate language, ethnically appropriate language, particularly when
referring to ethnic minorities. So she wants to ban the
(05:35):
use of the term Latin X to respect ethnically appropriate language.
So the Latin part is still there, Uh, Latin X.
You know, for those that understand anything about Latin based languages,
when the word ends and oh, it's masculine. When when
it ends in a it's feminine. And so this makes sense.
(05:57):
It has nothing to do with the ethnicity at all. Um.
But to a casual reader, you know, that might seem reasonable.
You know that double speak, it's it's very tricky. But
the fact is is that she does not want to
see a progressive country certainly doesn't want to see a
progressive Arkansas. No surprise there. And I can say that
(06:20):
I've been in Arkansas. UM. But this statement entirely, in
its entirety ignores while it's intended, it fails miserably to
those of us educated and can read through these this
these lines, UM. It completely fails to respect non gender
(06:48):
conforming citizens, non binary citizens, UM, and citizens who you
know don't want to be identified by their sexuality. Sexual
preference is basically a nod to the lgbt Q I
A plus community. UM. And now you may be listening
(07:09):
and think to yourself, well, whatever, you know, I got
my own problems. I'm not worried about those people's problems.
Or maybe you stand in opposition to that entire community
because of your upbringing, religious beliefs or whatever that is.
You know, whatever the case is, right, And this is
what I brush up against a lot a lot of times.
(07:30):
It's Christian people. I was raised Christian. You can't get
more Christian how I was raised. I was raised literally
in the church because the Greater Grace Memorial Church of
God in Christ in Compton, California, had living quarters. My
father was the minister of that church and my grandfather.
There's churches where I live now with my grandfather's name
(07:51):
etched into the buildings, and I carry that man's name,
and so do my sons. So I come from a
faith based tradition, so I get it. But I also
recognized that it's not my place to judge anyone. It's
one of the first things I learned, you know, in
my faith based tradition. Uh. But something that's a little
(08:15):
bit more significant, a little bit more important and indeed impactful,
is that I recognize the plight that black people went through.
Oh how soon we forget when it came to language,
(08:38):
which is what we're talking about today. Latin X. It's fine,
doesn't hurt anybody. It's inclusive. This community wants to be progressive.
They're not saying take away Latino, take away Latina. They're
just adding another word. We went through rather more than that.
When was the last time somebody called you a negro?
(09:00):
It was the last time somebody called you a negress? Oh? Wait?
You recognize that we had to live through a changing
world in order to get to where we are now,
to be respected on our terms, to live in a
society that's a little bit more fair than it was
(09:23):
fifty years ago, probably more than that sixty seventy years ago.
And I feel like this breakdown is problematic. This is
(09:44):
part of the reason why I do my best personally
and I take my sons to stand in solidarity with
communities that are fighting for these little simple things. Our
Native brothers and sisters for many years did not want
to be represented as team mascots red skins. That was
(10:07):
a long fight for them to get the respect that
they decided was appropriate for their community, and everybody was
surprisingly okay with it for a long time. And while
(10:28):
I'm here, I do want to mention that right now,
I'm recording this on unseated ancestral lands of the Akima
and Odown people's and what you know of this Phoenix, Arizona.
Why not standing solidarity? I learned from Fred Hampton Rainbow Coalition.
(10:53):
There's a lot more in common and what makes us different.
If you support me and I'll support you, and if
I support you, make sure you come and support me.
That's fair. That's what everyone's afraid of. That's what God
Hampton shot in Chicago Latin X MHM. So talk to me,
(11:23):
what do you think maybe I'm wrong, highly doubted, but
I'm always willing to listen. Go ahead and hit me
up on social media. I'm at Ramsay's job and as always,
you can use the red microphone talk back feature on
the I Heart Radio app. I'd love to hear from you,
(11:44):
and until I do, peace. This has been a production
of the Black Information Network. Today's show is produced by
Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts you'd like to share, use
the red microphone talk back feature on the I Heart
Radio app. While you're there, be sure to hit subscribe
and download all of our episodes. I am your host,
ramsas Jah on all social media. Join us tomorrow as
(12:04):
we share our news with our voice from our perspective
right here on the Black Information Network Daily Podcast
M hmm. It's going with that. This is the Black
Information Network Daily Podcast, and I'm your host, ramsays Jah.
And sometimes the amount of stories that make their way
to us means that we simply can't cover everything that
(00:20):
comes our way. But from time to time, a story
just stays with me and I feel compelled to share
it with you and give you my thoughts. And now
one more thing, Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders Band's use
of term Latin X in state documents. This is what
(00:45):
we're talking about today. Now, those of you familiar with
Sarah Huckabee Sanders UM, no that this is definitely something
that is in her wheelhouse. Uh, these sort of divisive things,
these non inclusive things and so forth. Um, But you know,
(01:09):
there's a lot of people that feel the way that
she feels, and she is the one who has enough
power to make a decision like this. And this just
kind of lets me know that we need to have
these conversations because oh how soon we forget. Um, I'm
(01:31):
gonna do a little bit of reading from CNN Politics
CNN dot com if you want to check it out.
But what I have says Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckaby Sanders
signed an executive order this week barring the term latin
X and the facial an official state documents, saying the
(01:51):
government should use ethnically appropriate language. Um. She goes on
to say the government has a responsibility to repect, respect,
sorry it's citizens, and use ethnically appropriate language, particularly when
referring to ethnic minorities. The executive order read The term
latin X emerged as a gender neutral signifier among Hispanic
(02:13):
or Latino people in recent years, but it has become
a divisive issue among many. Latin X was originally intended
to be an alternative to Latino or Latina for people
who don't identify as male or female, or who don't
want to be identified by their gender. Numerous activists, academics, politicians,
and corporations have adopted the term latin X to be
(02:34):
more inclusive. All right, Um, you know it was watching
a documentary or really a long interview with a gentleman
who wrote a book on double speak. This was recent
(02:56):
and I sent this link to my older brother who
is a is an m c S in a group
called Dilated People's. His name is Rocca. If you want
to look up dilated people's that's my big brother, and
he and I was sent stuff back and forth all
the time. Um. But he's written plenty of songs talking
about exactly how people are easily convinced that things are
(03:22):
not what they are right. Um. I remember a story,
um where the gentleman who wrote this book said that,
you know, there was a court case basically two people arguing,
two companies arguing rather um about whether or not they
(03:46):
could sell chickens as fresh chickens you know too consumers um,
meaning sometimes a chicken is butchered and packaged and chilled
and you can pick it up in a package at
the store, and sometimes the chickens are frozen. Um. And
because of corporate double speak and government double speak, this
(04:08):
you hear a lot with you know, police and all
that sort of stuff, how they use vague language or
tricky language to kind of tell a story. Um. This
court case ended up finding that despite the company storing
the chickens at below freezing temperatures and shipping them, that
(04:30):
if the company called them deep chilled chickens, I believe
that was a deep childer deep cooled chickens or something
like that, um, that they could get away with selling
what is effectively frozen chickens, not effectively exactly frozen chickens,
and chickens were frozen, um, But by changing the wording
a bit um, you could still sell them as fresh
(04:54):
chickens and not frozen. So reason that's important is because
we're gonna look at this sort of double speak here,
this language that's intended to um confuse us readers. I
(05:15):
want to focus in particular on this quote where she
says the government has a responsibility to respect its citizens
and use ethnically appropriate language, ethnically appropriate language, particularly when
referring to ethnic minorities. So she wants to ban the
(05:35):
use of the term Latin X to respect ethnically appropriate language.
So the Latin part is still there, Uh, Latin X.
You know, for those that understand anything about Latin based languages,
when the word ends and oh, it's masculine. When when
it ends in a it's feminine. And so this makes sense.
(05:57):
It has nothing to do with the ethnicity at all. Um.
But to a casual reader, you know, that might seem reasonable.
You know that double speak, it's it's very tricky. But
the fact is is that she does not want to
see a progressive country certainly doesn't want to see a
progressive Arkansas. No surprise there. And I can say that
(06:20):
I've been in Arkansas. UM. But this statement entirely, in
its entirety ignores while it's intended, it fails miserably to
those of us educated and can read through these this
these lines, UM. It completely fails to respect non gender
(06:48):
conforming citizens, non binary citizens, UM, and citizens who you
know don't want to be identified by their sexuality. Sexual
preference is basically a nod to the lgbt Q I
A plus community. UM. And now you may be listening
(07:09):
and think to yourself, well, whatever, you know, I got
my own problems. I'm not worried about those people's problems.
Or maybe you stand in opposition to that entire community
because of your upbringing, religious beliefs or whatever that is.
You know, whatever the case is, right, And this is
what I brush up against a lot a lot of times.
(07:30):
It's Christian people. I was raised Christian. You can't get
more Christian how I was raised. I was raised literally
in the church because the Greater Grace Memorial Church of
God in Christ in Compton, California, had living quarters. My
father was the minister of that church and my grandfather.
There's churches where I live now with my grandfather's name
(07:51):
etched into the buildings, and I carry that man's name,
and so do my sons. So I come from a
faith based tradition, so I get it. But I also
recognized that it's not my place to judge anyone. It's
one of the first things I learned, you know, in
my faith based tradition. Uh. But something that's a little
(08:15):
bit more significant, a little bit more important and indeed impactful,
is that I recognize the plight that black people went through.
Oh how soon we forget when it came to language,
(08:38):
which is what we're talking about today. Latin X. It's fine,
doesn't hurt anybody. It's inclusive. This community wants to be progressive.
They're not saying take away Latino, take away Latina. They're
just adding another word. We went through rather more than that.
When was the last time somebody called you a negro?
(09:00):
It was the last time somebody called you a negress? Oh? Wait?
You recognize that we had to live through a changing
world in order to get to where we are now,
to be respected on our terms, to live in a
society that's a little bit more fair than it was
(09:23):
fifty years ago, probably more than that sixty seventy years ago.
And I feel like this breakdown is problematic. This is
(09:44):
part of the reason why I do my best personally
and I take my sons to stand in solidarity with
communities that are fighting for these little simple things. Our
Native brothers and sisters for many years did not want
to be represented as team mascots red skins. That was
(10:07):
a long fight for them to get the respect that
they decided was appropriate for their community, and everybody was
surprisingly okay with it for a long time. And while
(10:28):
I'm here, I do want to mention that right now,
I'm recording this on unseated ancestral lands of the Akima
and Odown people's and what you know of this Phoenix, Arizona.
Why not standing solidarity? I learned from Fred Hampton Rainbow Coalition.
(10:53):
There's a lot more in common and what makes us different.
If you support me and I'll support you, and if
I support you, make sure you come and support me.
That's fair. That's what everyone's afraid of. That's what God
Hampton shot in Chicago Latin X MHM. So talk to me,
(11:23):
what do you think maybe I'm wrong, highly doubted, but
I'm always willing to listen. Go ahead and hit me
up on social media. I'm at Ramsay's job and as always,
you can use the red microphone talk back feature on
the I Heart Radio app. I'd love to hear from you,
(11:44):
and until I do, peace. This has been a production
of the Black Information Network. Today's show is produced by
Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts you'd like to share, use
the red microphone talk back feature on the I Heart
Radio app. While you're there, be sure to hit subscribe
and download all of our episodes. I am your host,
ramsas Jah on all social media. Join us tomorrow as
(12:04):
we share our news with our voice from our perspective
right here on the Black Information Network Daily Podcast
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