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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's been another busy news week and we'd like to
review the major stories of the week here on the
Black Information Network. Today, we are joined by Black Information
Network news anchors Natasha Williams and Ray Harris to discuss
this week's major stories. This is the Black Information Network
Daily Podcast. Now I'm your host, ramses Jah. All right,
Natasha and Ray, welcome back to the show. Natasha, have you.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Been Oh, I've been great. Great.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, yeah, I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Holiday just great with family. Too much turkey, too much dressing.
I made the mac and cheese and you know, I
ate it in four days.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So I'm good. I'm healthy. Yeah, yeah, you look better
than ever. I love it. Ray, my man, how you doing.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I am doing great, Sir, blessed and more blessed. Okay,
I had a great holiday. Looking forward to the Christmas holidays.
Can't wait.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Absolutely. I love it. All right, Well, let's get to
the news. First.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Up, who some goings on this week? The Akron, Ohio
Police Department released the results of an internal investigation on
the death of Jalen Walker, and the results from the
review supported the actions of the eight officers involved in
the case. Natasha, you're based in Ohio. So let's start
with you give us some details on the story, and
then of course Ray, we're going to follow up with
you next.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, these stories are always very troubling, you know, they're
released and at the time it was released, of course
there's always unrest. Community is always upset. Forty six times
he was shot, He jumped out of the car, he ran,
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he had a gun in the car. They found a gun,
but uh, he was running. But it's one of those
situations that you feel like anytime a man is running
away from you, you have to ask the question, if
he's running away, you know, is he trying to get
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away from you? How can you feel threatened? But anytime
someone's running away, they feel that. You feel like they're
running away, they're trying to get away. But you know,
in our community, it seems as though if someone is
running and police are chasing them, they generally are not
going to survive. And this is indeed what the situation was.
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As you look at the video, made that turn back,
and as you look at that video, that turn that
he made was the fatal turn. When you make that turnback,
that's pretty much what it appears that police need to
indicate that they're at risk, particularly after he had supposedly
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fired a shot out of his car, indicating that he
had a gun, so they felt threatened. So it's one
of those situations. We've seen it over and over and
over again. It's like burning our minds, you know. We
see these situations where people run, you know, they appear
to be scared, they appear to be in crisis, and
then they end up dead. So it's troubling. We've seen
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it so many times it seems like it's just burnt
in our memory and it's just another case that we
see of a black man dying in a hail of
bullets and the community is just terribly upset, and a
lawsuit follows.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Ray, I need you to weigh in here, man, talk
to me.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
It's heart wrenching, but it makes you wonder how on
earth could something like this happen in today's society.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Here we are.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
We have social media now, Thank God for social media
and thank him for modern technology. Just imagine all of
the people of color and all of the people in
general who have been crucified by law enforcement or other
individuals who had a weapon. All of those cases and
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incidents that have happened not only in the United States
but around the world where people have been unjustly killed
or maimed as a result of actions such as this.
So it just, man, you know what, it's just breathtaking
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if you just sit and think about it, because we've heard,
you know, rumors, and you know, we've heard of the
unsolved cases and what have you. But wow, it's just
breathtaking when you think about all of the people that
have been wrongly unjust over the years. So this is
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just another case. Like Natasha just mentioned that it makes
you wonder when when is it going to end? Where
the when where they be justice?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
The The funny thing about at least this part of
the story. I know this is kind of the second
phase here, but it doesn't surprise me. Whenever there's an
internal investigation where the police are investigating the police and
they find that the police didn't do anything wrong, that's
kind of par for the course, and it's a conflict
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of interest, the glaring conflict of interest. This is why
there was a big push for community oversight. But I
take this a step further personally. Even if this shows
that police followed procedure and so forth, and Natasha, I
think you touched on this. I think the glaringly obvious
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conclusion is that police policies are wrong and need to
be rethought, because you're absolutely right. Anyone fleeing, any creature,
not even necessarily human, any organism endowed with consciousness, with
a brain and able to move its animated has a
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fight or flight response, and a fight is a lot
more risky than flight. Right, So if this individual is
fleeing flight, they pose no risk to you, and if
you're the one chasing them, then you, in this scenario,
pose the risk. And we see this a lot with
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not just this police chase, but with several police chases.
It either results in harm or death to the individual fleeing,
which isn't necessarily They're not necessarily convicted. As we all know,
crimes aren't strictly speaking, innocent or guilty. There's a huge
gray area that the carceral system just overlooks because there's
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a certain binary to it. But these individuals fleeing often
end up harm or dead bystanders in community, members and
people just driving in traffic end up harmed or dead,
and even the police themselves end up harmed or dead
because of police chases right in other countries around the world.
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If someone is fleeing, guess what, they let them go.
They do police investigative work and they come up with
a plan to apprehend the person at a time when
it's safer to everyone. And obviously the consequences are more harsh,
but they the police are expected to do police work,
not endanger the community, so that their jobs can be
slightly easier on the front end. And what we're seeing
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here is again the police policing the police based on
a set of guidelines and criteria that they have given
themselves and with no community oversight and with no police reform.
I think that ray to your point. We're right, we're
going to see this happen again and again. So it's
just a very sad story all the way around. But
that's what we got. Moving on a look.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
At least record though he had no record. Sure he
also had a crisis situation. His girlfriend had apparently gotten
a car crash.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Absolutely thank you for bringing that up.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
There was a situation where I guess another officer loaded
a gun somehow and like added more ammunition to it.
So it's like this has like so many different tentacles.
We can't go into all of that. But this is
very complicated.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, very complicated story.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And it will come out in this lawsuit that the
family's filing. You will hear much more about this story.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's the hope. That's the hope. But yeah, you're absolutely right.
It's it's never as cut and dry, it's always more nuanced.
These aren't bad people. These are people that are people.
This is a function of poverty often enough, the function
of folks living under the crushing weight of capitalism is
the folks trying their best to make it. These are
folks dealing with mental and sometimes even physical issues and limitations,
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and then their intersection of a human herdicament and police
procedures too often ends up in the death of black
and brown bodies. And until we get enough non black
and brown people to agree with that fact, this is
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our reality. And so yes, I do look forward to
the civil suit. Moving on, fans of women's college basketball
are wondering what's really happening with LSU star Angel Reese
and her disappearance from the team. Is it her attitude,
her grades, or something else? Right, You cover sports for
the bi N, So this time we're going to start with,
you give us more in this story than Natasha will
follow them the.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Buy you Barbie. Indeed, that's her nickname that I know.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Ms Rees has been an outstanding basketball player since transferring
to this program from Maryland, but she's also built a
personal empire. Women's basketball has transcended along with sports in general.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
This year.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
There is a program called Name Likeness and it has
really transcended the athlete in America where they can make
money off their name and likeness.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
That has been the case with Miss Reese.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
She's a social media superstar and she has garnered a
lot of endorsements, including the latest from Reebok, and she
continues to build her brand. But at the same time,
she's a basketball player for LSU and mind you, her
coach is very flamboyant and has personality as well. Was
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it a personality clash could have been, but Angel was
benched four games ago before this suspension started, so there
has been some behind the scenes dramatics going on in
the locker room and on the bench regarding Angel Reese
and her coach, Kim Maulkie. Neither has publicly said exactly
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what's happening. As a result of that, but Angel Reese
is supposed to play tonight. Will she be on the bench,
will she be in the game. We'll find out. But
this is four games later, and it's not normal for
a superstar of her status to miss this much game
time without some type of explanation to the fans, to
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the school, and to the rest of the team.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Natasha, let's get your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, I think I think there has to be an explanation.
I think Kim Molkie is keeping it close to the vest,
as she probably should. She needs to protect her players.
I read a lot about how she tries to do
a really good job protecting her players. It appears to me,
if it's not the grades, it has to be some
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type of person clash. I read an article recently on
how it's very difficult to manage million dollar players. In essence,
this young woman is now a million dollar player. So
if you can't manage million dollar ball players, then it's
probably difficult to manage this million dollar you know, uh
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nil player you know, name, image and likeness player, because
I mean she was she was flamboyant or she is flamboyant,
you know, with her lashes, you know, and hair and
makeup and all the things that she does. But she's
a fantastic player, and she can have all that and
be a fantastic player. But I think it probably is
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a lot for this young woman to manage, you know,
with all the pressure that comes with it, you know,
all the people who are pulling for her attention or
pulling for her, you know, to do poorly. I mean
some people that there's a lot of haters out there.
So I think she probably has a lot of pressure
coming from all directions, and she's probably trying to feed
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this social media thing, you know, and she's probably got
pressure from all angles, and she probably, you know, needs
a little help managing all that. So that might have
led to you know, maybe some actions or some things
that maybe got in the way of her doing what
she needs to do, you know, as a basketball player,
and that may have led to her maybe acting out
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in a way that maybe she didn't need to as
a basketball player because first and foremost, she's supposed to
be a player, and she has to feed this LSU machine,
because LSU is a program. I lived in Baton Rouge
and the Tigers are a that's a system, you know.
Death Valley is a system. That's a program that really
believes in sports. I mean LSU and Louisiana, that's a
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whole program. So you really have to buy into that
and be a part of that. And they, you know,
as national champions, you know, they really have.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
To live up to that.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
They lost their first game of the season, you know,
so that had to weigh heavy on going forward. You know,
you know what's going on now. You know, I got
to pick up the pieces. We've got to keep going
and we gotta live up to this. So you know,
all these rumors about her having a one point seven GPA,
you know, all that kind of stuff coming out. I
mean a lot of pressure. So I'm sure it's a
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combination of things that probably led to her being benched
for those four games. But I don't think she'll be
benched if it's not grades, if it's not something that
will definitely cause her to be you know, tagged by
the NC DOUBLEA. I think she'll be playing tonight, and
I think we'll see that she's the superstar that she
needs to be back in play because they need her.
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You know, she's a player who averages I guess around
twenty points a game, right, Ray, I think she'll be
uh back in play and she'll she'll get her personality
and everything in line to do what she needs to do.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Lack Information Network News anchors and Natasha Williams and Ray Harris.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Are here with us discussing this week's major stories all right.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
In the aftermath of his recent stabbing incident, Derek Shelvin's
attorney says the X COP is a target for inmates
who want to quote make a name for themselves. Others
are saying prison violence is something that happens on a
regular basis and this was just another inmate incident. Natasha,
what's your reaction to this story? And then Ray, of
course we're going to get your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
They say that police officers in it often are targets
in prison. You know, it's something that they have to
obviously protect officers from what I understand, and sometimes when
officers go into prisons, they give them an assumed name.
They can't even go under the name their actual name.
(15:49):
From what I understand, they move them to different states
to protect them because if they go into a prison
and they've arrested a number of the inmates, then they
obviously would be in a situation so sometimes sometimes they
move them around to different you know, states to make
sure that they're not in with the people they arrested.
So I get that maybe some of the people are
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trying to make a name for themselves, you know, by
by going after mister Chauvin. But prisons, let's be honest,
it's not where nice people meet. I mean, hey, a
prison is a place where some people have done bad
things and it's where they go to kind of pay
for their crimes. So I mean, in these prisons, a
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lot of people that go there are violent, and after
amount of time, people are going to find out who
he is and why he's there. So I'm not surprised
in the least bit that after a while people don't
know who Derek Chauvin is and what he's charged with,
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and that he's going to run into some trouble. Sure,
And you know, sometimes you read what yourself. You know,
it just is what it is. You know, if you
want to go back to the good old Bible times,
you read what yourself. And it's going to be very
difficult for a man who has basically who was on
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trial for a case that made international news, not to
be found out, you know, as far as who he
is and what he did and the role he played
in George Floyd's death. So you know, prisons are violent,
violent people live there, and he's gone to live in
a violent place for the next forty years, so things
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are bound to happen.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Absolutely, Ray, let's get your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
This is nine minutes and forty three seconds of payback,
an element of his wrongdoings, and this is, you know,
just another situation where we've covered so many prison stories
and we hear that life inside of the prison walls
totally different than it is from the outside world. So
he is walking on eggshells from the day he walked
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in there. He's a marked man. There's no way they
could hide him from the prison population, so.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
He's on eggshells.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Something can happen to him at any day. And it's
from my understanding from reading published reports. He's on maximum security,
so he's not around too many inmates, but sooner or later,
at some point there's going to be some contact or
some type of communication with other inmates, and this was
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probably one of those cases. I'm not surprised that he
has been attacked in prison.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It could have been.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Provoked or non provoked. What have you. But you know,
maybe he's reached to the point in his mind where
he doesn't want to live behind those walls anymore. It
could be a setup. We don't know what happened them
behind prison walls. But as Natasha says, you reap what
you sell.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I think that you're both right about that point. There's
not a lot of at least in my timeline, there's
not a lot of people that are sympathizing. A lot
of people are using this story to bring attention to
the fact that prisons in general have always been bad,
especially for black and brown people. And you know, there
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are people more concerned about the knife than there are
people concerned about Derek himself.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
And so, yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That seems to be, at least based on the algorithm's
servings to me, the general consensus that you reap what
you sew.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Well.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Lastly, the fallout from the music artist Cassie civil case
against Sean P. Diddy Comb's continues. As comes step down
this week as chairman of Revolt. Many people are now
speculating there's more problems on the horizon for the rap mogul.
Ray This time will start with you take us through
the latest developments on this story, and then Natasha will
come to you afterwards.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
This gentleman has built a media empire over the years
through bad Boy Records, and he spun off several other
businesses along the way. There have been numerous allegations from
various people of wrongdoings allegedly done by P. David Combs
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in this latest incident where he's facing a rash of suits.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Some of these suits are based on.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
The filings due to a limitation statue that's in New York,
and these lawsuits were filed recently. A case was just
settled out of court. The terms in the the terms
of the case have not been released and they remain sealed,
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but he allegedly settled the case with a former girlfriend
and former employee. Now, I want to give our listeners
a little insight in reference that when he was sued,
the strategy was not to go after mister Ditty, but
go after his entire empire, including his businesses. That's why
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that suit settled so fast out of court because it
involved his personal business and him himself. So a lot
of things. A lot of people say, hey, this is
the beginning of the beginning of the end for Ditty,
because you know, there's been so many allegations over the
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years that didn't make it to court. But now we're
starting to see exactly the many questionable incidents that he
had put it he has put himself in as a
result of this alleged activity.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Natasha, let's get your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Sure, It's very interesting he settled so quickly. I mean
twenty four hours later, you settle for an undisclosed amount
of money. I think, you know, people talk about, you know,
how quickly people settle, and you know, in relationship to guilt,
I mean, you know, when you settle as quickly as
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he settled, that really says something about, you know what,
you don't want to get out into the public sphere,
into the public space. I think that says something. And
then also how quickly others have kind of stepped aside
from him. He is a big supporter of a charter
school in Brooklyn. I think they immediately said also they
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do not want his money. He's no longer a part
of that. You know, Macy's is no longer going to
be selling Sean John clothes. So you know, all of
these different facets, facets of his business. You know, moving back,
stepping back. So I think it says a lot about
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you know, when you decide to, you know, to kind
of get involved in some of these activities and people
start to come out, you know, you really people start
to fall off, and when they do that, you know,
it kind of really starts to unravel where you are,
you know, as a businessman, as a person. And these claims,
you know, their claims, but when you start settling, it
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kind of gives credence to the claims and people start
to say, Okay, how can I remove myself, you know,
from any attachment to this and remove you know, anything
that we can lend to this and get away from it.
So I think that you know, a lot more will
come from this. I mean, you know, he stepped down
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from Revolt, that media company. I mean, I think you're
going to see a lot more of this. I mean,
I think we have definitely not heard the last of
the people who are coming for him. I think over
the years there have been a lot of women who've
come out out, but I think they just haven't had
a voice. But I think now many more voices will
be heard.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, I know, it's funny. I was.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I was speaking last night, funnily enough, at a YWCA
event for like community activism and for bringing about equitable
changes in the community. And of course, the YWCA is
the Young Women's Christian Association. It's the other side of
the coin for the YMCA, And of course the crowd
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was mostly women. And a lot of times you hear
about things like this, but to be in a room
like this where you hear people tell stories where they
felt paralyzed, they felt that there was nothing they could do,
They were in the presence of someone who was more
powerful than them, and they did not really have a
real choice. You know, I think that I learned a
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little bit just listening to those stories. And I've done
my best over the years to be I'm very open
to learning and growing as a person. But you know,
even last night, it lets me know that there's still
so much for me to learn in terms of how
certain predicaments hit certain people. And even if it's not
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the intention, the fact of the matter is that a
power dynamic creates a very very strange set of circumstances
for certain people who are particularly vulnerable. And so now
that I'm kind of listening to the both of you,
rehash ditty and what he's going through because of these accusations.
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I'm hoping that whatever resolution comes of all this, that
any victims, if indeed they are victims, are made whole,
or at least as whole as they can be made.
So I think we'll leave that one right there. Has
always I'd like to thank you both very much. You're
both brilliant anchors, journalist pundits, and it's always a joy
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to have you on the show once again. Today's guests
are Black Information Network news anchors Natasha Williams and Ray Harris.
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