December 14, 2024 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's been another busy news week and we like to
review the major stories of the week here on the
Black Information Network. Today, we are joined by Black Information
Network news anchor Nicole Deal to discuss this week's major stories.
This is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast and I'm
your host, ramses Jah Nicole Deal.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to the show. How have you been since we
last spoke?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello there, ramses It's been a while, right.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
A little bit? Yeah, getting ready for the holidays.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I am kind of I just need a little more money,
just a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, don't we all?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And yeah, I'm gonna do some holiday shopping a little
later on today, So I'm excited looking forward to buying
things for myself. Oh wow, then maybe some other people.
But before we get there, of course, we have to
discuss the news and it's been a busy week. First up,
he's one of the most loved and respected boxers of
all time, but things took a turn for the worst
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for Floyd Mayweather during his recent visit to London, and
it all stems from his views on the conflict between
Hamas and Israel. So why don't you give us a
little bit more on this story? And you know, I'll
share some of my thoughts as well.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Okay, well, this story is pretty straightforward, but before I
kind of jump into it, I want to read something
that the US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln released just
a couple of months ago on the one year anniversary
of the Hamas attack on Israel. The statement says, on
October seventh, twenty twenty three, more than twelve hundred men,
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women and children, including forty six Americans and citizens of
more than thirty countries, were slaughtered by Hamas, the largest
massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. Girls and women were
sexually assaulted. The depravity of Hamas's crimes is almost unspeakable.
It goes on to say Hamas also took two hundred
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and fifty four people hostage that day, including twelve Americans.
So that's the framework that we're dealing with before we
go into the story. So what happened, Getting back to
what happened in London, Floyd Mayweather was reportedly doing some
shopping there. He walked out of a local jewelry store
and he was basically confronted by an angry group of
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anti Israel protesters. So, for those who may not know,
after the October seventh. After the October seventh attack, he
made a lot of charitable contributions to the Israel Defense
Forces and those that were affected by the attacks. And
one of the donations that he made was four hundred
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thousand dollars to reportedly buy some bulletproof vest for Israeli
medical volunteers. He also used his fifty million dollar private
jet to take supplies into Israel things of that nature.
There are even pictures online of him holding the Israeli flag.
So what happened in London is there was a video
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of Mayweather trying to avoid this mob. The sound quality
is not that great, but you can certainly hear people yelling,
and I think one of those persons is Mayweather or
someone from his group. And according to tim Zy, the
group was using hateful speech toward him, including the inward.
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So the people who are confronting him are obviously in
support of Palestine. This one is this one is a
little bit difficult for me because the entire story is
about oppression, right, It's the oppression of Israel, of the Palestinians,
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and even Mayweather in that situation. I don't think anyone
should be attacked for their personal beliefs or what organizations
they choose to support, and certainly should not have to
deal with any racial slurs on a public street in
a civilized country. But I do understand that there are
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people on both sides of this story that are hurting,
and I just have to say my heart goes out
to the people of Israel and the Palestinian.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
People as well well.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well stated yeah, and I think that you're right. This
is It's complicated no matter how you approach it. I
think that what you did by framing the October seventh
attacks from hamas done to the citizens Israeli citizens, twelve
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hundred of them dead. I think that that provides some
insight for people who don't know anything about this, and
it can explain why people have decided to offer their
support to Israel. We reported on that, of course, in
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the aftermath of the October seventh attacks. We had a
journalist on by the name of Amy Horwitz who's a
friend of mine, and you know, he gave us some
insight into the relationship between Palestinians and Israel. But being
the journalist that I am or aspire to be, I
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knew that, of course, there has to be two sides
of the story. Let me seek out somebody who can
give me some insight into the Palestinian perspective.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Indeed, we made that episode.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Chris would remember that and credit to him for coming
up with that title. But in talking to the Palestinians,
we realized that this conflict had been going on. At
least I realized that the conflict had been going on
much longer than October seventh. And if you were to
identify the oppressor and the oppressed objectively, the oppressed are
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the Palestinians, and by every qualifiable metric they are the
oppressed and the equation, and Israel is the oppressor. That
is not to say that the attacks on October seventh
are justified, but you at least it is to say
that you can start to see kind of how everything
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ties together. And knowing that the story goes back decades
of these Palestinian people feeling oppressed and seeking autonomy, seeking
you know, they want their own statehood, they want, you know,
a number of things, and they've been negotiating and committing
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acts of terror they would definitely qualify as terrorist acts
and everything in between. And when you point that out,
they will simply point out the fact that they are
indeed being oppressed and that Israel has committed acts of
terror on Palestinian people going on for decades, and twelve
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hundred is not a big number in terms of death,
because Palestinian people have been experiencing that for so long
now when this became news in the aftermath of October seventh,
or really in the aftermath of Israel's response to October seventh,
because Israel just was carpet bombing Gaza and Palestinians, and
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I think the number is somewhere north of thirty thousand
Palestinians smitten from the earth in response to the twelve
hundred people that died on October seventh. And Israel's justification,
of course, is that they're trying to target Hamas soldiers,
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which I don't imagine that Hamas has an army that big,
and we all know that these are citizens. We've seen
the amount of children, we've seen the amount of babies,
baby pieces of babies. We've seen them for months now,
and every agency that matters in the world has called
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it a humanitarian crisis, has called it a genocide, has
called it unfair, unkind war, brutal, everything Israel's response, and
now Israel looks like the bullies because these oppressed people,
or at least the facet of these oppressed people and
their government representatives, if you want to call hamas, that
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responded on October seventh, and Israel in turn responded with
overwhelming force and turned the cities to rubble bombed all
the hospitals, all the schools, all the mosques, everything that
makes a city into a not just the human beings.
And what happened was people in the United States saw that,
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especially on college campuses, and they say, you know what,
enough is enough.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You can't do this.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You cannot genocide a people, not on our watch, right,
So the college kids get out and they protest this
and bring some more attention to this. And again this
is just for people that don't know the whole story,
which I'm not professing that I do, but at least
I understand kind of a sequence of events here. When
you look at a person like Floyd Mayweather being black, right,
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and then you know in the video it's said that
they protesters in London were using the N word. The
people in Palestine know that black people have been among
their biggest supporters. There's a statue of Mandela in the
nation state of Palestine, because historically speaking, black people and
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Palestinian people have had a shared story in that. You know,
historically these folks have been impressed and we have found
solidarity in that relationship. Certainly people on the ground here
in the United States, the younger people especially, and they've
been tons of black people who have been very vocal
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in support of Palestine. So people around the world understand
this relationship and this solidarity. So that inward may have
flown bar from the TMZ article. I would have to
hear that on video myself and know indeed that it
came from a pro Palestinian, anti Israeli individual to know
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that that's valid, because that does not track with the
story that I know as one of the people who
had a sign and was on the college campus protesting
Israel's response to the October seventh attacks. In terms of
Floyd Mayweather, I think your point is well made, Nicole.
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You know, he is well within his rights to say
Israel is who I want to support. Israel has a
right to defend itself. This is the response that Israel's
going with, and I support it. It'll never happen again,
if we stomp it out entirely, the world will learn
a lesson, and we will make a We will make
a lesson out of these people. Right, some people they
have a heavy handed approach, or they like a heavy
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handed approach. Sure, that's not the human thing to do.
I don't think that's what God would want. But you
know there are people like that. Floyd Mayweather happens to
be one of those people. Nothing to see here, right,
There's plenty of people that are protesting and making their
voices known to the opposite that Israel's response is too much,
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and these people deserve dignity and self determination and a
right to live. But outside of that, when I watched
the video, really nothing to write home about. You know,
it's just a crowd. I didn't see punches. I didn't
see people with fire, and no buildings on fire, nothing
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It just happened to be EMPLOYD.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Mayweather buying jewelry and there was a crowd out there,
most of whom I suspect were simply there because a
big boxer was there. And there happened probably to be
a small group of protesters that maybe agitated the rest
of the crowd and went from there. So in my opinion,
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it's kind of a nothing burger, But I'm glad that
we get to talk about it because i think anytime
we can shine some light on the goings on in
Gaza in the West Bank, I think it's important to
do that because those are human beings over there, and
regardless of how you feel about it, I think most
moral people want to know that as much care as
being taken to preserve human life as possible, and based
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on what I've seen Israel's response to encompass, that hasn't
been true for the majority of their campaign against Amas.
Moving on, during a recent Fox News in Subway, chokehold
assailant Daniel Penny spoke out for the first time since
jury found him not guilty in connection to the May
twenty twenty three death of Jordan Neely. Needless to say,
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his comments raised a few eyebrows. So I'm going to
share a little bit more of this story from you know,
the article that I read, And this is just a
quote from the interview, but it says this is from
Daniel Penny, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Quote, he was just threatening to kill people.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
He was threatening to go to jail forever, go to
jail for the rest of his life. And now where
I'm on the ground with him, I'm on my back
in a very vulnerable position if I would have just
let go. So this was him kind of explaining why
he had him in a choke hold and kept him
in that choke hold for six minutes. Okay, again, he's
on his back holding Jordan Neely on top of him,
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and he doesn't want to let him go because if
he lets him go, now he's on his back in
a vulnerable position, and Jordan Neely of course would get
At first, I want to offer something here first before
I let you jump in and round this out for us.
The first thing is that you know, when there are fighters,
you know, for the most part, fighters have weight classes,
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and these two would not qualify as being in the
same weight class. You know, a frail, thin, tiny Michael
Jackson impersonator that might weigh one hundred pounds versus a
former marine that's not the same. But let's say, for instance, whatever,
let's say, for instance, we live in a parallel universe
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and that doesn't matter. My biggest issue with this guy
is that you don't get to put yourself in harm's
way and then complain about being in harm's way. Well,
I couldn't let him go because then he could have
hurt me. Look, are you the hero or are you
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a coward? And if you can't make that distinction, then
you have to like come to terms with the fact
that you're a murderer.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You took this man's life.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You're not the police. He didn't hurt anybody, he was
talking and now he's dead and you get to go home.
That's how I feel about it. So I just want
to make sure I got that off before I threw
it to you. But yeah, give us your thoughts on this,
because I know that this has kind of stirred up
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a lot of emotions around the country.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh yeah, this is such a hot story. It's really heartbreaking.
Penny says that he was in a vulnerable position, like
you've already said. But to me, just like with George Floyd,
at some point, the person that you are restraining, be
it Floyd or Neely or whomever, at some point that
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person is no longer struggling, no longer yelling, no longer
screaming or being the threat that you thought that they were.
They're no longer moving, and eventually no longer breathing. So
did no one on the subway recognize that, I mean,
including the person that was holding him down. There's it's
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just for him to say that he was vulnerable. I
completely agree with what you just said. Ramsey's uh there
and and because of that there there's a huge outcry
in black communities all over the country right now following
his acquittal. One of the responses I want to share
about it is part of a statement from the leader
of the Black Lives Matter huk Newsom. He's he's calling
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on black vigilantes to retaliate against the former marine And
here's what he said. He says, like everybody else has vigilantes,
we need some black vigilantes. People want to jump up
and choke us and kill us for being loud, how
about we do the same when they attempt to as
I'm tired. I know you're looking for us to be like, oh,
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go in March, go in March. No, I want you
to hold a community event. He's talking about this weekend.
Everywhere from the Bronx to Houston, to Seattle to Florida,
Black people whole community events and talk about what you need.
And I don't know if he's right or wrong. It's
not for me to judge. There's a thing on TikTok
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right now says that says listen and don't judge. Listen
and don't judge. So but that's just what he had
to say about it. The other thing that I think
bothers me about this is Penny's remarks during the interview
is one of one of his kind. It just seems
like he has no remorse for taking the life of
another person. And I understand his argument. You know, people
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thought he was a thread. You say you were trying
to help, but here I didn't want any type of
attention or praise and I still don't the guilt I
would have felt if someone did get hurt, if he
did do what he to do, I would never be
able to live with myself. Huh and get hurt exactly.
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And that was you. You took the words right out
of my mouth that here's something to think think about,
mister Penny. No one actually got hurt. Someone got killed
and right, and there's such a big difference, I mean,
and for you to just I just want to hear
him say, you know, I'm sorry he's dead or I'm
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sorry he died that. You know, I didn't want it
to get to that point. It was never my intention.
I thought I was trying to. But but just say
I'm sorry because someone someone is you know, this is
somebody's son, their brother, their cousin.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
There. You know, there is being exactly if it was
a dog, right boy, an aggressive dog that didn't bite anybody,
and he choked it to death on the subway, there
would be a national outrage if he was acquitted after
choking a dog, and because he choked a black man again,
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didn't hurt anybody. It was loud and aggressive, all right,
Well he's a hero, he was protecting, all right, stop
miss me with that. And then he gets to this
is nonsense, And it's heartbreaking because you know, I don't
like to feel like I live in a country that
hates me, hates us, that feels like self defeatist, sort
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of like mentality, you know. And there's so many examples
of black success and black excellence and so forth. But
then I see stories like this, and I'm like, how
in the world is it the case that I know
that if there was a video of this man choking
a dog to death, that there would be more outrage
than if he's choking a black man, how.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Do I know?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And swap any of police and a black man, of
vigilantes and a black man, anything like that. Swap that
video out with a dog and see in your mind,
play it back in your mind if there was a
dog there, can you conceive of there being more public
outrage at a dog than a human being? And then
ask yourself does this country hate black people? And that's
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where I'm like, yo, and just I don't like dwelling
in that space because I'm an optimist, but.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That one's tough for me.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So anyway, he's uh, as I mentioned, free to go
home and live out the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So that's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Black Information Network News anchor Nicole Deal is here with
us discussing this week's major stories. All right, another week,
another headline for Donald Trump. This time, the President elect
shared his views during a recent NBC interview on how
children of illegal immigrants might be handled under his administration. So, Nicole,
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give us some more details on these comments made by Trump,
and then I'll jump in and share some of my thoughts.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
So, President elect Donald Trump was recently interviewed on NBC's
meet the press, and he did a lot of talking
about illegal immigrants, and here's some of what he had
to say. He first wants to use an executive action
to end birthright citizenship, meaning if you are born here
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in the US, you become a citizen, so he wants
that to go away. He wants to deport undocumented immigrants,
which by the way, that includes about eleven million people
here in the US. And then he made this comment.
He says, the only way you don't break up the
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family is you keep them together, and you have to
send them all back. So I think that's triggering for
me and maybe a lot of people, because when you
start talking about displacing entire families and displacing children, you know,
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my mind goes off to say, how, you know, how
are we going to do that? And then I saw
something that I read that talked about maybe some type
of kind of prison camp, I guess where you kind
of round people up and you know, station them somewhere
before they're actually deported, in things of this nature. So
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it's really I just don't I don't really know how
to feel about that. I remember seeing children in cages,
you know, during his first term in office, and that's
just not something And of course that was characterized as
a humanitarian crisis as well, and that's just not something
that I feel like we as Americans want to repeat.
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But maybe so, I don't know. Also, about about eight
years ago, Trump made a comment about former President Dwight
Eisenhower's uh, what was called then Operation Wetback, which is
obviously a racial slur, but but Trump glorified that and
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talked about how how it was very effective. And I
think that that operation, if you will, deported about a
million immigrants back in nineteen fifty four. So it's definitely
when it comes to illegal immigration. I know there are
millions and millions and millions of people that are that
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are flooding into this country, uh, and a lot of
them are trying to escape horrors and tragedies and oppression
and things of that nature. But we have to do
something to protect our borders. During his first presidency and
leading up to to during his campaign, his first campaign,
he talked about building the wall, and we got a
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little bit of that. We have Texas Governor Greg Abbott
putting the buoys out, but it's it's just not doing
enough to impact the numbers and and I don't know
what the answer is, but we've got to do something.
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The only silver lining I think to that interview, and
part of what Trump says was that he did say
he wanted to work with the Democrats on a plan
for the Dreamers, and of course those are the children
who have come to the US or came to the
US at at a very early age. So I just
feel like we've got to do something. But but I
don't I don't know what, and I don't know how
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we're going to deport millions of people, even even in
a four year term. I don't see how we're going
to accomplish that. We can't even keep up with the
with the hundreds of thousands of children and people that
are coming across our border. So how we're going to
round up millions and send them back and the expense
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for that is is a mystery for me.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Oh yeah, economic impact of that, because those million people
don't see.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
The thing is that.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
For people with long memories, you might remember that Democrats
had came to an agreement with Republicans in the in
the House to work together on shoring up the border.
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And then Donald Trump, because he wanted a campaign on
a weak border.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Tank that bill.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
He's like, Nope, all Republicans abandoned this effort because I
need the border to be weak so that I can
campaign on that the border is strong, then there's no
need for me to be back in office, you know
what I mean. But if the border is weak, I
can whip up fear, I can. You know, I play
the hits. It's worked last time. The border is open.
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Build a wall in Mexico's and paper. That worked last time.
So you know, but don't don't don't give them a
border deal, right, right, And then he got up there
and he played the hits. You know, criminals and insane
asylums and crazy people and murderers and rapists and the
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worst of the worst in the planet earth are coming
across the border. That's what he sounds like, right, And
of course we know that that's not true. The amount
of crime that is attributed to like immigrants and migrants,
relative to the amount of crime that Americans do on
our on each other is minuscule.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
But you know, he was able to whip up fear
in people.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know, we do have an issue with the border,
but it's not nearly as bad as it's been made
out to be. Everyone's hyper focused on the border because
Donald Trump has all the cameras and all the microphones
all the time, and if you say something enough times,
it becomes the truth, even if it's not right. So again,
I'm not saying that there's no issues with the border,
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but it's not as bad as people have made it
out to be. We're talking about the economic impact of
deporting the millions of people who come here to work.
It's not just bad people. Do bad people come across
the border. Yeah, but there's bad people in every single
population on Earth, and for the most part, there's way
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more good people that contribute to society. Indeed, that's how
societies work, right, So a lot of these people come
over and they work, and Donald Trump's plan is to
get rid of all of them, the ones who work
and the ones who don't. And the economic impact of
this it is nearly immeasurable, especially in border states where
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we depend on you know, folks coming and going across
the border. You know, people do business across the border.
There's communities there. And when we talk about families being separated, again,
this whole thing is based on fear. I think DL
Hughley says something and it's so potent. He says that
the worst place for a black person to live is
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in the mind of a white person, or the scariest
place for a black person to live is in the
mind of a white person, or something like that. And
I think that that speaks to, of course, the Jordan
Neely situation. If a white person gets afraid anything's on
the menu, kill him.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I was afraid.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
The police say that all the time, right, and then
when white people get afraid, Donald Trump can and he's
the one who whipped up the fear. But Donald Trump
can do things like this. I think if anybody stepped
outside of themselves and they recognized, Okay, if I was
in that position. Let's say I came here, I had
a baby here. As a result, I've lived here thirteen years.
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I have a job, I contribute, I have no life
back there. I pay taxes, I pay everything.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And Donald Trump is now the president.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And again you're putting yourself in that position, and you're like, hey,
there's no easy path for citizenship. I would love that.
It would make life easy for all of us. But
there's people I ramses, I personally know people who are
not citizens here because it takes decades. I have a
friend who's been waiting twenty it's probably it's got to
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be twenty years now for her citizenship to come through.
She'd been illegal the whole time she's been here since
she was a little girl from Costa Rica. Dear friend
of mine, baby sat my son when he was younger.
Nothing she could do, And it's expensive and it's tedious
and it's time consuming. They always send you back to
the drawing board and nothing's organized. So and when people
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are like, hey, you should have do it legally, it's.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Not that simple.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And then imagine this guy becoming the president and whipping
up all that fear, and then you have to live
in it and he's the president again, and you're like, yo,
I've done everything I know how to do. And for
the white people that are afraid, because they're susceptible to
fear the same as any other population, and Donald Trump,
of course, place to their fears, it's hard for them
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to conceive themselves in that position because they've always lived
a life of privilege. They've always lived a life where
everything is okay. There's no wars here, there's no cartels here,
nothing like that in their communities and they don't need
to flee or escape, so it's inconceivable. And they're so
calloused that it's like, oh, just do it the right
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way and we got nothing to worry about. Yeah, if
it was only that simple. And you know, the thing
that puzzles me the most about this is, I wonder
what the Latinos who voted for Donald Trump are thinking
now that he's effectively expanding his views on deportation.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We got to deport the dad or.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
The mom, and the kids can go to they can stay,
We'll put them in foster care, or they can go
with you. And that's effectively deporting us citizens. So wonder
what those people think now? All right, for our final
topic this week, we have an update on a story
we've been following involving backlash toward TV host Al Sharpton
from a coalition of black churches. So I want to
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share a little bit from Fox News on this one,
and then of course we'll get your thoughts to close
this out. But again from Fox News, a black church
coalition is walking back its call for MSNBC to suspend
and investigate Reverend Al Sharpton after his nonprofit accepted five
hundred thousand dollars in donations from Vice President Kamala Harris's campaign.
A week after writing that Sharpton's actions put the moral
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stain on the integrity of the Black Church, the National
Black Church Initiative reversed course, calling its earlier statement inappropriate
and saying it regrets the misstep. But this Monday, the
Initiative retracted its earlier statement, writing in part that it
was unaware of the existing contract or agreement with Black organizations,
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including Reverend Sharpton's National Action Network, to conduct nonpartisan get
out the vote efforts ahead of the election, and here's
a quote from them. We recognize the critical importance of
this work. After further research, we have found no evidence
that any candidate paid for support or endorsements, nor that
NBC was engaged in any partisan political activities related to
(32:19):
Vice President Harris's appearance on Politics Nation. Furthermore, we understand
that Vice President Harris made previous appearances on Politics Nation
with Reverend Al Sharpton over the years. The statement continued,
So a couple things first, this is on Fox. Hey
it broken clock is right twice a day, so good
(32:39):
kudos to Fox for owning this because they didn't have
to report on this. Sure everybody was wrong, I wasn't
wrong because I'm like, I'm gonna hold off on that
because it doesn't really seem like it doesn't seem as
bad as people are making it out to be. And
I suspect that this is everything is above board, you know,
especially when you're dealing with that type of money. And
(33:01):
of course they have a friendship and you can't pay somebody,
or I guess you can, but when you're friendly with him,
you kind of already know what you're getting, right, So
you're not going to pay somebody half a million dollars
to get a friendly interview when you're already friendly with them.
And she was already the clear choice for him, So
that part, it was like this, this doesn't add up,
And I'm glad that now the Black Church Coalition is
(33:23):
what was the name of it?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
He let me find it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, the Black Church Coalition is walking back their initial comments.
But talk to us about this. How did this one
hit you initially? And how do you feel about it now? Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, I kind of feel like you Ramsay's I think
it's kind of a nothing burger. Yeah, you know it
when it first hit you know, you have that whole.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Moment like a yeah, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Vice president and she you know, and then Al Sharpton,
of course he's a big name, particularly in the black community,
but he's well known, lots of followers, et cetera. And
so you want, I think a lot of people want
their to be something there. Oh, where there's smoke, there's fire.
But again, I think as as they dove into that,
(34:09):
and like you said, they're already friendly with each other.
I mean, this is an interview that was going to
happen with or without the donation. This is an interview
that was going to be friendly, you know, And so
it's it's kind of a it's kind of a nothing burger.
I am glad that that the Black Church Coalition did
come back and say what they said, uh, in support
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of him, and they almost kind of had to.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So so yeah, I just I'm glad that it's out
in the open, and I'm glad that they came back,
and like I'm glad Fox owned it, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, there you go, that's the main one, because a
lot of people need to see that.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So yeah, all right, well we'll leave it right there.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
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This is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast and I'm
your host, ramses Jah Nicole Deal.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to the show. How have you been since we
last spoke?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello there, ramses It's been a while, right.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
A little bit? Yeah, getting ready for the holidays.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I am kind of I just need a little more money,
just a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, don't we all?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And yeah, I'm gonna do some holiday shopping a little
later on today, So I'm excited looking forward to buying
things for myself. Oh wow, then maybe some other people.
But before we get there, of course, we have to
discuss the news and it's been a busy week. First up,
he's one of the most loved and respected boxers of
all time, but things took a turn for the worst
(00:58):
for Floyd Mayweather during his recent visit to London, and
it all stems from his views on the conflict between
Hamas and Israel. So why don't you give us a
little bit more on this story? And you know, I'll
share some of my thoughts as well.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Okay, well, this story is pretty straightforward, but before I
kind of jump into it, I want to read something
that the US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln released just
a couple of months ago on the one year anniversary
of the Hamas attack on Israel. The statement says, on
October seventh, twenty twenty three, more than twelve hundred men,
(01:36):
women and children, including forty six Americans and citizens of
more than thirty countries, were slaughtered by Hamas, the largest
massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. Girls and women were
sexually assaulted. The depravity of Hamas's crimes is almost unspeakable.
It goes on to say Hamas also took two hundred
(01:58):
and fifty four people hostage that day, including twelve Americans.
So that's the framework that we're dealing with before we
go into the story. So what happened, Getting back to
what happened in London, Floyd Mayweather was reportedly doing some
shopping there. He walked out of a local jewelry store
and he was basically confronted by an angry group of
(02:23):
anti Israel protesters. So, for those who may not know,
after the October seventh. After the October seventh attack, he
made a lot of charitable contributions to the Israel Defense
Forces and those that were affected by the attacks. And
one of the donations that he made was four hundred
(02:44):
thousand dollars to reportedly buy some bulletproof vest for Israeli
medical volunteers. He also used his fifty million dollar private
jet to take supplies into Israel things of that nature.
There are even pictures online of him holding the Israeli flag.
So what happened in London is there was a video
(03:06):
of Mayweather trying to avoid this mob. The sound quality
is not that great, but you can certainly hear people yelling,
and I think one of those persons is Mayweather or
someone from his group. And according to tim Zy, the
group was using hateful speech toward him, including the inward.
(03:27):
So the people who are confronting him are obviously in
support of Palestine. This one is this one is a
little bit difficult for me because the entire story is
about oppression, right, It's the oppression of Israel, of the Palestinians,
(03:47):
and even Mayweather in that situation. I don't think anyone
should be attacked for their personal beliefs or what organizations
they choose to support, and certainly should not have to
deal with any racial slurs on a public street in
a civilized country. But I do understand that there are
(04:09):
people on both sides of this story that are hurting,
and I just have to say my heart goes out
to the people of Israel and the Palestinian.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
People as well well.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well stated yeah, and I think that you're right. This
is It's complicated no matter how you approach it. I
think that what you did by framing the October seventh
attacks from hamas done to the citizens Israeli citizens, twelve
(04:49):
hundred of them dead. I think that that provides some
insight for people who don't know anything about this, and
it can explain why people have decided to offer their
support to Israel. We reported on that, of course, in
(05:12):
the aftermath of the October seventh attacks. We had a
journalist on by the name of Amy Horwitz who's a
friend of mine, and you know, he gave us some
insight into the relationship between Palestinians and Israel. But being
the journalist that I am or aspire to be, I
(05:35):
knew that, of course, there has to be two sides
of the story. Let me seek out somebody who can
give me some insight into the Palestinian perspective.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Indeed, we made that episode.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Chris would remember that and credit to him for coming
up with that title. But in talking to the Palestinians,
we realized that this conflict had been going on. At
least I realized that the conflict had been going on
much longer than October seventh. And if you were to
identify the oppressor and the oppressed objectively, the oppressed are
(06:09):
the Palestinians, and by every qualifiable metric they are the
oppressed and the equation, and Israel is the oppressor. That
is not to say that the attacks on October seventh
are justified, but you at least it is to say
that you can start to see kind of how everything
(06:31):
ties together. And knowing that the story goes back decades
of these Palestinian people feeling oppressed and seeking autonomy, seeking
you know, they want their own statehood, they want, you know,
a number of things, and they've been negotiating and committing
(06:53):
acts of terror they would definitely qualify as terrorist acts
and everything in between. And when you point that out,
they will simply point out the fact that they are
indeed being oppressed and that Israel has committed acts of
terror on Palestinian people going on for decades, and twelve
(07:15):
hundred is not a big number in terms of death,
because Palestinian people have been experiencing that for so long
now when this became news in the aftermath of October seventh,
or really in the aftermath of Israel's response to October seventh,
because Israel just was carpet bombing Gaza and Palestinians, and
(07:42):
I think the number is somewhere north of thirty thousand
Palestinians smitten from the earth in response to the twelve
hundred people that died on October seventh. And Israel's justification,
of course, is that they're trying to target Hamas soldiers,
(08:02):
which I don't imagine that Hamas has an army that big,
and we all know that these are citizens. We've seen
the amount of children, we've seen the amount of babies,
baby pieces of babies. We've seen them for months now,
and every agency that matters in the world has called
(08:24):
it a humanitarian crisis, has called it a genocide, has
called it unfair, unkind war, brutal, everything Israel's response, and
now Israel looks like the bullies because these oppressed people,
or at least the facet of these oppressed people and
their government representatives, if you want to call hamas, that
(08:46):
responded on October seventh, and Israel in turn responded with
overwhelming force and turned the cities to rubble bombed all
the hospitals, all the schools, all the mosques, everything that
makes a city into a not just the human beings.
And what happened was people in the United States saw that,
(09:07):
especially on college campuses, and they say, you know what,
enough is enough.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You can't do this.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You cannot genocide a people, not on our watch, right,
So the college kids get out and they protest this
and bring some more attention to this. And again this
is just for people that don't know the whole story,
which I'm not professing that I do, but at least
I understand kind of a sequence of events here. When
you look at a person like Floyd Mayweather being black, right,
(09:37):
and then you know in the video it's said that
they protesters in London were using the N word. The
people in Palestine know that black people have been among
their biggest supporters. There's a statue of Mandela in the
nation state of Palestine, because historically speaking, black people and
(09:59):
Palestinian people have had a shared story in that. You know,
historically these folks have been impressed and we have found
solidarity in that relationship. Certainly people on the ground here
in the United States, the younger people especially, and they've
been tons of black people who have been very vocal
(10:22):
in support of Palestine. So people around the world understand
this relationship and this solidarity. So that inward may have
flown bar from the TMZ article. I would have to
hear that on video myself and know indeed that it
came from a pro Palestinian, anti Israeli individual to know
(10:42):
that that's valid, because that does not track with the
story that I know as one of the people who
had a sign and was on the college campus protesting
Israel's response to the October seventh attacks. In terms of
Floyd Mayweather, I think your point is well made, Nicole.
(11:03):
You know, he is well within his rights to say
Israel is who I want to support. Israel has a
right to defend itself. This is the response that Israel's
going with, and I support it. It'll never happen again,
if we stomp it out entirely, the world will learn
a lesson, and we will make a We will make
a lesson out of these people. Right, some people they
have a heavy handed approach, or they like a heavy
(11:23):
handed approach. Sure, that's not the human thing to do.
I don't think that's what God would want. But you
know there are people like that. Floyd Mayweather happens to
be one of those people. Nothing to see here, right,
There's plenty of people that are protesting and making their
voices known to the opposite that Israel's response is too much,
(11:44):
and these people deserve dignity and self determination and a
right to live. But outside of that, when I watched
the video, really nothing to write home about. You know,
it's just a crowd. I didn't see punches. I didn't
see people with fire, and no buildings on fire, nothing
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It just happened to be EMPLOYD.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Mayweather buying jewelry and there was a crowd out there,
most of whom I suspect were simply there because a
big boxer was there. And there happened probably to be
a small group of protesters that maybe agitated the rest
of the crowd and went from there. So in my opinion,
(12:24):
it's kind of a nothing burger, But I'm glad that
we get to talk about it because i think anytime
we can shine some light on the goings on in
Gaza in the West Bank, I think it's important to
do that because those are human beings over there, and
regardless of how you feel about it, I think most
moral people want to know that as much care as
being taken to preserve human life as possible, and based
(12:47):
on what I've seen Israel's response to encompass, that hasn't
been true for the majority of their campaign against Amas.
Moving on, during a recent Fox News in Subway, chokehold
assailant Daniel Penny spoke out for the first time since
jury found him not guilty in connection to the May
twenty twenty three death of Jordan Neely. Needless to say,
(13:10):
his comments raised a few eyebrows. So I'm going to
share a little bit more of this story from you know,
the article that I read, And this is just a
quote from the interview, but it says this is from
Daniel Penny, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Quote, he was just threatening to kill people.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
He was threatening to go to jail forever, go to
jail for the rest of his life. And now where
I'm on the ground with him, I'm on my back
in a very vulnerable position if I would have just
let go. So this was him kind of explaining why
he had him in a choke hold and kept him
in that choke hold for six minutes. Okay, again, he's
on his back holding Jordan Neely on top of him,
(13:54):
and he doesn't want to let him go because if
he lets him go, now he's on his back in
a vulnerable position, and Jordan Neely of course would get
At first, I want to offer something here first before
I let you jump in and round this out for us.
The first thing is that you know, when there are fighters,
you know, for the most part, fighters have weight classes,
(14:15):
and these two would not qualify as being in the
same weight class. You know, a frail, thin, tiny Michael
Jackson impersonator that might weigh one hundred pounds versus a
former marine that's not the same. But let's say, for instance, whatever,
let's say, for instance, we live in a parallel universe
(14:36):
and that doesn't matter. My biggest issue with this guy
is that you don't get to put yourself in harm's
way and then complain about being in harm's way. Well,
I couldn't let him go because then he could have
hurt me. Look, are you the hero or are you
(14:58):
a coward? And if you can't make that distinction, then
you have to like come to terms with the fact
that you're a murderer.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You took this man's life.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You're not the police. He didn't hurt anybody, he was
talking and now he's dead and you get to go home.
That's how I feel about it. So I just want
to make sure I got that off before I threw
it to you. But yeah, give us your thoughts on this,
because I know that this has kind of stirred up
(15:29):
a lot of emotions around the country.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh yeah, this is such a hot story. It's really heartbreaking.
Penny says that he was in a vulnerable position, like
you've already said. But to me, just like with George Floyd,
at some point, the person that you are restraining, be
it Floyd or Neely or whomever, at some point that
(15:54):
person is no longer struggling, no longer yelling, no longer
screaming or being the threat that you thought that they were.
They're no longer moving, and eventually no longer breathing. So
did no one on the subway recognize that, I mean,
including the person that was holding him down. There's it's
(16:18):
just for him to say that he was vulnerable. I
completely agree with what you just said. Ramsey's uh there
and and because of that there there's a huge outcry
in black communities all over the country right now following
his acquittal. One of the responses I want to share
about it is part of a statement from the leader
of the Black Lives Matter huk Newsom. He's he's calling
(16:41):
on black vigilantes to retaliate against the former marine And
here's what he said. He says, like everybody else has vigilantes,
we need some black vigilantes. People want to jump up
and choke us and kill us for being loud, how
about we do the same when they attempt to as
I'm tired. I know you're looking for us to be like, oh,
(17:04):
go in March, go in March. No, I want you
to hold a community event. He's talking about this weekend.
Everywhere from the Bronx to Houston, to Seattle to Florida,
Black people whole community events and talk about what you need.
And I don't know if he's right or wrong. It's
not for me to judge. There's a thing on TikTok
(17:26):
right now says that says listen and don't judge. Listen
and don't judge. So but that's just what he had
to say about it. The other thing that I think
bothers me about this is Penny's remarks during the interview
is one of one of his kind. It just seems
like he has no remorse for taking the life of
another person. And I understand his argument. You know, people
(17:51):
thought he was a thread. You say you were trying
to help, but here I didn't want any type of
attention or praise and I still don't the guilt I
would have felt if someone did get hurt, if he
did do what he to do, I would never be
able to live with myself. Huh and get hurt exactly.
(18:16):
And that was you. You took the words right out
of my mouth that here's something to think think about,
mister Penny. No one actually got hurt. Someone got killed
and right, and there's such a big difference, I mean,
and for you to just I just want to hear
him say, you know, I'm sorry he's dead or I'm
(18:39):
sorry he died that. You know, I didn't want it
to get to that point. It was never my intention.
I thought I was trying to. But but just say
I'm sorry because someone someone is you know, this is
somebody's son, their brother, their cousin.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
There. You know, there is being exactly if it was
a dog, right boy, an aggressive dog that didn't bite anybody,
and he choked it to death on the subway, there
would be a national outrage if he was acquitted after
choking a dog, and because he choked a black man again,
(19:15):
didn't hurt anybody. It was loud and aggressive, all right,
Well he's a hero, he was protecting, all right, stop
miss me with that. And then he gets to this
is nonsense, And it's heartbreaking because you know, I don't
like to feel like I live in a country that
hates me, hates us, that feels like self defeatist, sort
(19:37):
of like mentality, you know. And there's so many examples
of black success and black excellence and so forth. But
then I see stories like this, and I'm like, how
in the world is it the case that I know
that if there was a video of this man choking
a dog to death, that there would be more outrage
than if he's choking a black man, how.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Do I know?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And swap any of police and a black man, of
vigilantes and a black man, anything like that. Swap that
video out with a dog and see in your mind,
play it back in your mind if there was a
dog there, can you conceive of there being more public
outrage at a dog than a human being? And then
ask yourself does this country hate black people? And that's
(20:20):
where I'm like, yo, and just I don't like dwelling
in that space because I'm an optimist, but.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That one's tough for me.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So anyway, he's uh, as I mentioned, free to go
home and live out the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So that's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Black Information Network News anchor Nicole Deal is here with
us discussing this week's major stories. All right, another week,
another headline for Donald Trump. This time, the President elect
shared his views during a recent NBC interview on how
children of illegal immigrants might be handled under his administration. So, Nicole,
(20:57):
give us some more details on these comments made by Trump,
and then I'll jump in and share some of my thoughts.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
So, President elect Donald Trump was recently interviewed on NBC's
meet the press, and he did a lot of talking
about illegal immigrants, and here's some of what he had
to say. He first wants to use an executive action
to end birthright citizenship, meaning if you are born here
(21:25):
in the US, you become a citizen, so he wants
that to go away. He wants to deport undocumented immigrants,
which by the way, that includes about eleven million people
here in the US. And then he made this comment.
He says, the only way you don't break up the
(21:46):
family is you keep them together, and you have to
send them all back. So I think that's triggering for
me and maybe a lot of people, because when you
start talking about displacing entire families and displacing children, you know,
(22:07):
my mind goes off to say, how, you know, how
are we going to do that? And then I saw
something that I read that talked about maybe some type
of kind of prison camp, I guess where you kind
of round people up and you know, station them somewhere
before they're actually deported, in things of this nature. So
(22:27):
it's really I just don't I don't really know how
to feel about that. I remember seeing children in cages,
you know, during his first term in office, and that's
just not something And of course that was characterized as
a humanitarian crisis as well, and that's just not something
that I feel like we as Americans want to repeat.
(22:49):
But maybe so, I don't know. Also, about about eight
years ago, Trump made a comment about former President Dwight
Eisenhower's uh, what was called then Operation Wetback, which is
obviously a racial slur, but but Trump glorified that and
(23:10):
talked about how how it was very effective. And I
think that that operation, if you will, deported about a
million immigrants back in nineteen fifty four. So it's definitely
when it comes to illegal immigration. I know there are
millions and millions and millions of people that are that
(23:31):
are flooding into this country, uh, and a lot of
them are trying to escape horrors and tragedies and oppression
and things of that nature. But we have to do
something to protect our borders. During his first presidency and
leading up to to during his campaign, his first campaign,
he talked about building the wall, and we got a
(23:52):
little bit of that. We have Texas Governor Greg Abbott
putting the buoys out, but it's it's just not doing
enough to impact the numbers and and I don't know
what the answer is, but we've got to do something.
(24:13):
The only silver lining I think to that interview, and
part of what Trump says was that he did say
he wanted to work with the Democrats on a plan
for the Dreamers, and of course those are the children
who have come to the US or came to the
US at at a very early age. So I just
feel like we've got to do something. But but I
don't I don't know what, and I don't know how
(24:35):
we're going to deport millions of people, even even in
a four year term. I don't see how we're going
to accomplish that. We can't even keep up with the
with the hundreds of thousands of children and people that
are coming across our border. So how we're going to
round up millions and send them back and the expense
(24:57):
for that is is a mystery for me.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Oh yeah, economic impact of that, because those million people
don't see.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
The thing is that.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
For people with long memories, you might remember that Democrats
had came to an agreement with Republicans in the in
the House to work together on shoring up the border.
(25:29):
And then Donald Trump, because he wanted a campaign on
a weak border.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Tank that bill.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
He's like, Nope, all Republicans abandoned this effort because I
need the border to be weak so that I can
campaign on that the border is strong, then there's no
need for me to be back in office, you know
what I mean. But if the border is weak, I
can whip up fear, I can. You know, I play
the hits. It's worked last time. The border is open.
(25:56):
Build a wall in Mexico's and paper. That worked last time.
So you know, but don't don't don't give them a
border deal, right, right, And then he got up there
and he played the hits. You know, criminals and insane
asylums and crazy people and murderers and rapists and the
(26:16):
worst of the worst in the planet earth are coming
across the border. That's what he sounds like, right, And
of course we know that that's not true. The amount
of crime that is attributed to like immigrants and migrants,
relative to the amount of crime that Americans do on
our on each other is minuscule.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
But you know, he was able to whip up fear
in people.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know, we do have an issue with the border,
but it's not nearly as bad as it's been made
out to be. Everyone's hyper focused on the border because
Donald Trump has all the cameras and all the microphones
all the time, and if you say something enough times,
it becomes the truth, even if it's not right. So again,
I'm not saying that there's no issues with the border,
(27:03):
but it's not as bad as people have made it
out to be. We're talking about the economic impact of
deporting the millions of people who come here to work.
It's not just bad people. Do bad people come across
the border. Yeah, but there's bad people in every single
population on Earth, and for the most part, there's way
(27:24):
more good people that contribute to society. Indeed, that's how
societies work, right, So a lot of these people come
over and they work, and Donald Trump's plan is to
get rid of all of them, the ones who work
and the ones who don't. And the economic impact of
this it is nearly immeasurable, especially in border states where
(27:50):
we depend on you know, folks coming and going across
the border. You know, people do business across the border.
There's communities there. And when we talk about families being separated, again,
this whole thing is based on fear. I think DL
Hughley says something and it's so potent. He says that
the worst place for a black person to live is
(28:15):
in the mind of a white person, or the scariest
place for a black person to live is in the
mind of a white person, or something like that. And
I think that that speaks to, of course, the Jordan
Neely situation. If a white person gets afraid anything's on
the menu, kill him.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I was afraid.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
The police say that all the time, right, and then
when white people get afraid, Donald Trump can and he's
the one who whipped up the fear. But Donald Trump
can do things like this. I think if anybody stepped
outside of themselves and they recognized, Okay, if I was
in that position. Let's say I came here, I had
a baby here. As a result, I've lived here thirteen years.
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I have a job, I contribute, I have no life
back there. I pay taxes, I pay everything.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And Donald Trump is now the president.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And again you're putting yourself in that position, and you're like, hey,
there's no easy path for citizenship. I would love that.
It would make life easy for all of us. But
there's people I ramses, I personally know people who are
not citizens here because it takes decades. I have a
friend who's been waiting twenty it's probably it's got to
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be twenty years now for her citizenship to come through.
She'd been illegal the whole time she's been here since
she was a little girl from Costa Rica. Dear friend
of mine, baby sat my son when he was younger.
Nothing she could do, And it's expensive and it's tedious
and it's time consuming. They always send you back to
the drawing board and nothing's organized. So and when people
(29:50):
are like, hey, you should have do it legally, it's.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Not that simple.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And then imagine this guy becoming the president and whipping
up all that fear, and then you have to live
in it and he's the president again, and you're like, yo,
I've done everything I know how to do. And for
the white people that are afraid, because they're susceptible to
fear the same as any other population, and Donald Trump,
of course, place to their fears, it's hard for them
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to conceive themselves in that position because they've always lived
a life of privilege. They've always lived a life where
everything is okay. There's no wars here, there's no cartels here,
nothing like that in their communities and they don't need
to flee or escape, so it's inconceivable. And they're so
calloused that it's like, oh, just do it the right
(30:34):
way and we got nothing to worry about. Yeah, if
it was only that simple. And you know, the thing
that puzzles me the most about this is, I wonder
what the Latinos who voted for Donald Trump are thinking
now that he's effectively expanding his views on deportation.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We got to deport the dad or.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
The mom, and the kids can go to they can stay,
We'll put them in foster care, or they can go
with you. And that's effectively deporting us citizens. So wonder
what those people think now? All right, for our final
topic this week, we have an update on a story
we've been following involving backlash toward TV host Al Sharpton
from a coalition of black churches. So I want to
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share a little bit from Fox News on this one,
and then of course we'll get your thoughts to close
this out. But again from Fox News, a black church
coalition is walking back its call for MSNBC to suspend
and investigate Reverend Al Sharpton after his nonprofit accepted five
hundred thousand dollars in donations from Vice President Kamala Harris's campaign.
A week after writing that Sharpton's actions put the moral
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stain on the integrity of the Black Church, the National
Black Church Initiative reversed course, calling its earlier statement inappropriate
and saying it regrets the misstep. But this Monday, the
Initiative retracted its earlier statement, writing in part that it
was unaware of the existing contract or agreement with Black organizations,
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including Reverend Sharpton's National Action Network, to conduct nonpartisan get
out the vote efforts ahead of the election, and here's
a quote from them. We recognize the critical importance of
this work. After further research, we have found no evidence
that any candidate paid for support or endorsements, nor that
NBC was engaged in any partisan political activities related to
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Vice President Harris's appearance on Politics Nation. Furthermore, we understand
that Vice President Harris made previous appearances on Politics Nation
with Reverend Al Sharpton over the years. The statement continued,
So a couple things first, this is on Fox. Hey
it broken clock is right twice a day, so good
(32:39):
kudos to Fox for owning this because they didn't have
to report on this. Sure everybody was wrong, I wasn't
wrong because I'm like, I'm gonna hold off on that
because it doesn't really seem like it doesn't seem as
bad as people are making it out to be. And
I suspect that this is everything is above board, you know,
especially when you're dealing with that type of money. And
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of course they have a friendship and you can't pay somebody,
or I guess you can, but when you're friendly with him,
you kind of already know what you're getting, right, So
you're not going to pay somebody half a million dollars
to get a friendly interview when you're already friendly with them.
And she was already the clear choice for him, So
that part, it was like this, this doesn't add up,
And I'm glad that now the Black Church Coalition is
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what was the name of it?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
He let me find it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, the Black Church Coalition is walking back their initial comments.
But talk to us about this. How did this one
hit you initially? And how do you feel about it now? Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, I kind of feel like you Ramsay's I think
it's kind of a nothing burger. Yeah, you know it
when it first hit you know, you have that whole.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Moment like a yeah, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Vice president and she you know, and then Al Sharpton,
of course he's a big name, particularly in the black community,
but he's well known, lots of followers, et cetera. And
so you want, I think a lot of people want
their to be something there. Oh, where there's smoke, there's fire.
But again, I think as as they dove into that,
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and like you said, they're already friendly with each other.
I mean, this is an interview that was going to
happen with or without the donation. This is an interview
that was going to be friendly, you know, And so
it's it's kind of a it's kind of a nothing burger.
I am glad that that the Black Church Coalition did
come back and say what they said, uh, in support
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of him, and they almost kind of had to.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So so yeah, I just I'm glad that it's out
in the open, and I'm glad that they came back,
and like I'm glad Fox owned it, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, there you go, that's the main one, because a
lot of people need to see that.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So yeah, all right, well we'll leave it right there.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Thank you very much as always for your time and
your insight and your brilliance. Once again, today's guest is
Black Information Network news anchor Nicole Deal. This has been
a production of the Black Information Network. Today's show is
produced by Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts you'd like to share,
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