November 5, 2024 • 20 mins
Host Ramses J and cohost Q Ward continue their series profiling the distinguished ladies of the 2024 National Council of Negro Women. Today's special guest is Ms. Alexis Herman, the first African-American to hold the position of U.S. Secretary of Labor. Prior to serving as Secretary, she was Assistant to President Clinton and Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to our special series Distinguished Ladies of the NCNW
here on the Black Information Network. Recently, myself, Ramsay's Jah,
and q Ward made our way to Baltimore for the
sixty first Annual Convention of the National Council of Negro
Women and were able to have some meaningful conversations with
some of the most powerful and influential Black women in America.
(00:20):
We discuss politics, education, healthcare, economics, and everything in between.
So sit back and enjoy today's episode of the Distinguished
Ladies of the NCNW here on the Black Information Network.
All Right, So, like we like to do on this show,
who saved the best for last?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We are about to have a magnificent conversation with another
woman who is an inspiration, another woman who reminds us
that the black woman is as close to God as
we can be on this planet. And I love the
fact that we can affirm that frequently that our listeners
and you know, Chris Thompson Tony Coles will echo that
(01:03):
sentiment along with us. We're about to have a conversation
with Alexis Herman. She formerly served as the twenty third
US Secretary of Laborer under President Bill Clinton. She was
the first African American to hold the position. Prior to
serving as Secretary, she was Assistant to the President and
(01:24):
Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement. She
is the sort of person that can give some insights
and some perspectives on what we are experiencing right now
as a country, what's at stake, what we can do
about it, and conceivably what positive outcomes we are going
(01:49):
to be able to look forward to. So welcome to
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, thank you for inviting me, and I'm delighted to
be with both of you. It's magnificent what you're doing
to communicate a message, a history, to inspire us, especially
a new generation.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So I thank both of you.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
We are.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
So grateful to be able to share not just this conversation,
but this moment with you, the timing with which this
conversation is happening, as we are now less than a
month from probably the most pivotal election.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Of our lifetime.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
There is a political party that is campaigning on fear,
on divisiveness, and on despair, and there is another party
that is campaigning on joy and hope and the perspective
for a greater country for all of us moving forward.
We are seeing the use of alternative facts. I've heard
(02:55):
them called, or, as my grandmother used to say, just
lies with regards to the information that our public is
having fed to them, with regards to potential future outcomes.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
In this electorate, we've.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Seen historic job creation, historic job growth, and historic economic
recovery under our current administration, and we have a candidate
who is speaking about an opportunity economy and growing the.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Middle class moving forward.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
In your position, as someone who has worked in this
space and understand it's understands it a bit better than
the layman might. How would you speak to what we've
seen collectively with our current administration and what the promise
for the opportunity economy and a brighter future for working
(03:55):
Americans would look like under the respective is that we
have placed before is now leading up to again this
very pivotal election.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well, you know, I am reminded, and I've been in
the political world for many years since.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I was a child.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
My father was the first African American elected to any
office in the Deep South in Mobile, Alabama, and it
was back in the nineteen forties.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
This was post reconstruction, it was.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
War ten, and it was the only ward where black
people could actually go and vote. So I was there
with him from the time that I was a child.
And I give you this background because I can remember
(04:53):
somebody that we called Uncle Boba, who used to have
to pass the literacy test where we had the poll
taxes just.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
To be able to vote.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And I remember the day Uncle Bubba would come every
year to try and pass that test. And I remember
the question that he was asked the last time I
was there as a child, and that question was how
many bubbles in a bar of soap?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
That's what they wanted him to answer.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I go back from those days to this moment in time,
and I think I've heard over and over and over
again every time we have a presidential election that this
election is the most critical election of our time.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
To oh, I heard it with President Obama. I certainly
heard it with Bill Clinton. I can go all the
way back remembering.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Presidential campaigns, but I can say, in all honesty, for me,
this election really is the most critical of our times
because everything everything is on the ballot, all of the work,
(06:22):
all of the accomplishments, all of the struggles, the blood,
the sweat, the tears. I saw my own father at
the age of five beaten by the klu Klux Klan
for trying to register people to vote just in our hometown.
(06:45):
But today, to think that we're having to relitigate all
of this, it is really beyond comprehension. We cannot begin
to enumerate everything, and I do mean everything that is
on the table, from the voting rights that we fought
(07:07):
so hard for, from just the desegregation of our schools
for our children to have a right to a decent education,
healthcare for our families. I think of the legacy of
doctor Height, the National Council of Negro Women, and I
(07:28):
remember it was doctor Height who got the first fair
housing bill passed in this country and had the first
black housing community it's called Higher Heights, just outside of Biloxi, Mississippi,
(07:49):
where we were able to have home ownership and get
home loans for the first time. So when you asked
me about this election, and I reflect on everything that
we have died and fought for, it really is all
on the table, not just democracy, not just will we
(08:16):
continue to grow the economy the way we have seen,
not just the jobs that have been created, not just
the sense of dignity and pride that so many people
feel again coming out of a COVID era where we
never thought we would get back to normal, and we
(08:36):
did to have an economy that it's growing, that it's strong,
and we're about to lose all of that. And so
for me, when you talk about then and now, there
really is no comparison. I mean, you could pick one
(08:57):
area in previous presidential elections. Know it might be voting right,
it could have been housing and something about the ECONO.
I mean investing in healthcare. That was the big issue
in the Clinton administration. But this time around, it's everything.
(09:17):
And that's the big difference. That's the big difference.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
If my voice didn't matter, people wouldn't be trying so
hard to silence me, And if my vote didn't matter,
they wouldn't work so hard to take it away.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
So you know why I'm voting this November because I
know they don't want me to.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Your voice is powerful, your voice matters. Don't let your
voice be silenced. To register, confirm your voting status, or
get information about voting in your area, visit vote dot gov.
That's vote dot goov. A message from the Perception Institute
and the Black Information Network.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
First off, thank you for that that was passionate and profound.
I want to make sure that I acknowledge that we
don't often get to talk to people like you, certainly
not in an in person setting, so to be able
to feel the energy, it is very moving, and I
think we need that gravity, that additional gravity in this
(10:14):
moment because, as you mentioned, the stakes are so high
and the time is running out. So it's not just
will you vote. The people that listen to this show
more than likely are going to vote. It's will you
do something beyond what you would normally do because the
stakes are so high. Will you bring people to vote
with you? Will you compel people to get registered? That
sort of thing. So again, I wanted to acknowledge that
(10:37):
that answer because I think we all needed that. But
I also recognize that we're in a unique position to
talk to someone who has some insight in areas where
not very many people. You've walked a path not very
many people get to walk.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
As the.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Former director of the White House Office of Public Engagement,
I think that you are uniquely positioned to address something
that has come up on this show quite a bit. Democrats,
and you served under a Democratic president. Democrats two of them.
(11:24):
Two of them indeed, have been criticized recently for not
leaning into their accomplishments and incorporating their accomplishments into their messaging.
(11:45):
Charlemagne is a friend of ours, a friend of the show,
of course, has gone on The Daily Show and gone
on his own show saying Democrats need to do more
with their messaging to let people know what they're doing
and how they stand in contrast to the Republican Party.
They need to do more with their messaging. We had
a conversation today and we did a panel in New
(12:05):
Orleans where we talked to gen Z's and gen Z's
we had to have a conversation about how the messaging
from Democrats was really missing the mark there. So again,
as the former director of the White House Office of
Public Engagement, what would you say you would like to
(12:27):
see done about the messaging from the Democrats to the
general population.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I think the messaging generally does not speak to.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
New generations of voters. I believe that we are still challenged.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
In that space.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I think it's one thing to say that campaigns today
have great social media outreach, you know, and we've got influence.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Since we've got you and you quit right, doing these.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Podcasts really reaching different audiences, but I think we have
not honed the message in a way that speaks to
a new generation of our children, our young adults, you know.
(13:25):
And I'm going to give you a very specific example.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I was with a group of young folk in their.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Twenties who really were not as passionate as I thought
they should be about exercising their right to vote. And
so we got into some of the things that they're hearing.
And one example that we talk about is saving democracy.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And you know, you hear it over and over again.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Democracy is on the ballot.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
We have to save it. But the other folk that
I was talking to.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know what, they said, we don't know about saving democracy.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We want to fix it. We want to fix democracy.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay, we don't know that we want to save this
democracy as we presently define it. And they talked about
the feelings of exclusion and how we have yet to
(14:43):
make the promise of America the practice of America for
all Americans, and all of a sudden, it was like
a light bulb went on my own head, because you know,
for many of our young adults today, it really is
(15:03):
about fixing democracy for them and not saving it. So
I think we have to do a lot more to
listen and to speak in the language and use words
that resonate of not just why it's important, but to
(15:26):
be able to speak, not necessarily a new language, but
to be able to listen more effectively for what are
the right words to inspire and to motivate. I also
heard they're looking for more personalization. It's kind of like,
(15:48):
what's in it for me?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Okay, you know what's in it for me?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And I think we gotta personalize it more and talk
about it and bring it down to a level.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
What is in it for you.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
My mother was born in the nineteen forties in Macon, Georgia,
and I've shared with our listeners many times before that
when my mother became of age to vote, it was
not yet legal for women to vote in this country.
So I've always voted with an intentional responsibility to honor
(16:27):
her and my grandmother. Sometimes we hear about the civil
rights movement and Jim Crow and segregation and redlining and
all of these things that we dealt with, and we
think that they're way way way back in the history
of our country. No, this is my mother, not my
great grandmother. Not my great great, my mom.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I think.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Where we missed the mark with our young people as
we expect them to have that same sense of determination
with regards to their responsibility as voters, and as you
just put it, they're engaged in a different way, and
it's okay for them to want to know what's in
this for me. If I'm going to participate in this,
I should get something out of it. And us having
(17:12):
to say at more than once that it's the most
important election of our lifetime has kind of taken some
of the gravity away from that phrase. But I think
we collectively learn something they taught you and then you
taught us that we have to figure out the proper
messaging forgen Z and that generation behind.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Ours and.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Try to collectively figure out a way to get them
energized and involved, because I don't think we can get
the America that we want without their participation.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
No question about it. So no question about it.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
God bless you again for making some time for us,
for honoring us with your presence. We would spend the
next hour just telling you how awesome you are and
how fortunate we feel that you took time out of
your day to come and have a conversation with us.
If there's anything else that you'd like to say before
we part ways, please do well.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I would just say that both of you, May God
continue to use you and strengthen you, and know that
what you are doing is making a real contribution, a
real contribution because you're reaching voices. You're reaching voices and
(18:28):
giving a new generation the inspiration that they need to
use that voice for the development of all of us.
So I thank you, and may God continue to strengthen
and bless each of you.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You know, I know that it's a lot longer than this,
but I'm going to go through it one more time
and I want you to kind of hear the story,
the legacy, the impact that our guest has made. Alexis
(19:06):
Hermann again, Thank you again. Formerly the twenty third US
Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton and the first African
American to hold that position. She's here with us right now.
She was also the Assistant to the President and director
of the White House Office of Public Engagement.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
She's right here with us.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We didn't get to talk about, you know, your relationship
with Dorothy Heyde.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
We didn't get there.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
There's so many other parts of your story that we
didn't get to, but sufficed to say, it's been an
honor to have a conversation with you. The pleasure is
ours and my hope is that we'll be able to
do it again in long form.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
And I would love to do it.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And it's specially to talk about my beloved sir, good mom,
Dorothy Height.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The first young adult vice president of the National Council
of Negro.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Women's got to have that conversation because of Dorothy Alight.
She raised me, she trained me.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Well, thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Let's do it again, so bless you.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Be sure to check back for additional episodes right here
on the Black Information Network Daily Podcast
Welcome to our special series Distinguished Ladies of the NCNW
here on the Black Information Network. Recently, myself, Ramsay's Jah,
and q Ward made our way to Baltimore for the
sixty first Annual Convention of the National Council of Negro
Women and were able to have some meaningful conversations with
some of the most powerful and influential Black women in America.
(00:20):
We discuss politics, education, healthcare, economics, and everything in between.
So sit back and enjoy today's episode of the Distinguished
Ladies of the NCNW here on the Black Information Network.
All Right, So, like we like to do on this show,
who saved the best for last?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We are about to have a magnificent conversation with another
woman who is an inspiration, another woman who reminds us
that the black woman is as close to God as
we can be on this planet. And I love the
fact that we can affirm that frequently that our listeners
and you know, Chris Thompson Tony Coles will echo that
(01:03):
sentiment along with us. We're about to have a conversation
with Alexis Herman. She formerly served as the twenty third
US Secretary of Laborer under President Bill Clinton. She was
the first African American to hold the position. Prior to
serving as Secretary, she was Assistant to the President and
(01:24):
Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement. She
is the sort of person that can give some insights
and some perspectives on what we are experiencing right now
as a country, what's at stake, what we can do
about it, and conceivably what positive outcomes we are going
(01:49):
to be able to look forward to. So welcome to
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, thank you for inviting me, and I'm delighted to
be with both of you. It's magnificent what you're doing
to communicate a message, a history, to inspire us, especially
a new generation.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So I thank both of you.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
We are.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
So grateful to be able to share not just this conversation,
but this moment with you, the timing with which this
conversation is happening, as we are now less than a
month from probably the most pivotal election.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Of our lifetime.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
There is a political party that is campaigning on fear,
on divisiveness, and on despair, and there is another party
that is campaigning on joy and hope and the perspective
for a greater country for all of us moving forward.
We are seeing the use of alternative facts. I've heard
(02:55):
them called, or, as my grandmother used to say, just
lies with regards to the information that our public is
having fed to them, with regards to potential future outcomes.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
In this electorate, we've.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Seen historic job creation, historic job growth, and historic economic
recovery under our current administration, and we have a candidate
who is speaking about an opportunity economy and growing the.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Middle class moving forward.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
In your position, as someone who has worked in this
space and understand it's understands it a bit better than
the layman might. How would you speak to what we've
seen collectively with our current administration and what the promise
for the opportunity economy and a brighter future for working
(03:55):
Americans would look like under the respective is that we
have placed before is now leading up to again this
very pivotal election.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well, you know, I am reminded, and I've been in
the political world for many years since.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I was a child.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
My father was the first African American elected to any
office in the Deep South in Mobile, Alabama, and it
was back in the nineteen forties.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
This was post reconstruction, it was.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
War ten, and it was the only ward where black
people could actually go and vote. So I was there
with him from the time that I was a child.
And I give you this background because I can remember
(04:53):
somebody that we called Uncle Boba, who used to have
to pass the literacy test where we had the poll
taxes just.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
To be able to vote.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And I remember the day Uncle Bubba would come every
year to try and pass that test. And I remember
the question that he was asked the last time I
was there as a child, and that question was how
many bubbles in a bar of soap?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
That's what they wanted him to answer.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I go back from those days to this moment in time,
and I think I've heard over and over and over
again every time we have a presidential election that this
election is the most critical election of our time.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
To oh, I heard it with President Obama. I certainly
heard it with Bill Clinton. I can go all the
way back remembering.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Presidential campaigns, but I can say, in all honesty, for me,
this election really is the most critical of our times
because everything everything is on the ballot, all of the work,
(06:22):
all of the accomplishments, all of the struggles, the blood,
the sweat, the tears. I saw my own father at
the age of five beaten by the klu Klux Klan
for trying to register people to vote just in our hometown.
(06:45):
But today, to think that we're having to relitigate all
of this, it is really beyond comprehension. We cannot begin
to enumerate everything, and I do mean everything that is
on the table, from the voting rights that we fought
(07:07):
so hard for, from just the desegregation of our schools
for our children to have a right to a decent education,
healthcare for our families. I think of the legacy of
doctor Height, the National Council of Negro Women, and I
(07:28):
remember it was doctor Height who got the first fair
housing bill passed in this country and had the first
black housing community it's called Higher Heights, just outside of Biloxi, Mississippi,
(07:49):
where we were able to have home ownership and get
home loans for the first time. So when you asked
me about this election, and I reflect on everything that
we have died and fought for, it really is all
on the table, not just democracy, not just will we
(08:16):
continue to grow the economy the way we have seen,
not just the jobs that have been created, not just
the sense of dignity and pride that so many people
feel again coming out of a COVID era where we
never thought we would get back to normal, and we
(08:36):
did to have an economy that it's growing, that it's strong,
and we're about to lose all of that. And so
for me, when you talk about then and now, there
really is no comparison. I mean, you could pick one
(08:57):
area in previous presidential elections. Know it might be voting right,
it could have been housing and something about the ECONO.
I mean investing in healthcare. That was the big issue
in the Clinton administration. But this time around, it's everything.
(09:17):
And that's the big difference. That's the big difference.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
If my voice didn't matter, people wouldn't be trying so
hard to silence me, And if my vote didn't matter,
they wouldn't work so hard to take it away.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
So you know why I'm voting this November because I
know they don't want me to.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Your voice is powerful, your voice matters. Don't let your
voice be silenced. To register, confirm your voting status, or
get information about voting in your area, visit vote dot gov.
That's vote dot goov. A message from the Perception Institute
and the Black Information Network.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
First off, thank you for that that was passionate and profound.
I want to make sure that I acknowledge that we
don't often get to talk to people like you, certainly
not in an in person setting, so to be able
to feel the energy, it is very moving, and I
think we need that gravity, that additional gravity in this
(10:14):
moment because, as you mentioned, the stakes are so high
and the time is running out. So it's not just
will you vote. The people that listen to this show
more than likely are going to vote. It's will you
do something beyond what you would normally do because the
stakes are so high. Will you bring people to vote
with you? Will you compel people to get registered? That
sort of thing. So again, I wanted to acknowledge that
(10:37):
that answer because I think we all needed that. But
I also recognize that we're in a unique position to
talk to someone who has some insight in areas where
not very many people. You've walked a path not very
many people get to walk.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
As the.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Former director of the White House Office of Public Engagement,
I think that you are uniquely positioned to address something
that has come up on this show quite a bit. Democrats,
and you served under a Democratic president. Democrats two of them.
(11:24):
Two of them indeed, have been criticized recently for not
leaning into their accomplishments and incorporating their accomplishments into their messaging.
(11:45):
Charlemagne is a friend of ours, a friend of the show,
of course, has gone on The Daily Show and gone
on his own show saying Democrats need to do more
with their messaging to let people know what they're doing
and how they stand in contrast to the Republican Party.
They need to do more with their messaging. We had
a conversation today and we did a panel in New
(12:05):
Orleans where we talked to gen Z's and gen Z's
we had to have a conversation about how the messaging
from Democrats was really missing the mark there. So again,
as the former director of the White House Office of
Public Engagement, what would you say you would like to
(12:27):
see done about the messaging from the Democrats to the
general population.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I think the messaging generally does not speak to.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
New generations of voters. I believe that we are still challenged.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
In that space.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I think it's one thing to say that campaigns today
have great social media outreach, you know, and we've got influence.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Since we've got you and you quit right, doing these.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Podcasts really reaching different audiences, but I think we have
not honed the message in a way that speaks to
a new generation of our children, our young adults, you know.
(13:25):
And I'm going to give you a very specific example.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I was with a group of young folk in their.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Twenties who really were not as passionate as I thought
they should be about exercising their right to vote. And
so we got into some of the things that they're hearing.
And one example that we talk about is saving democracy.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And you know, you hear it over and over again.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Democracy is on the ballot.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
We have to save it. But the other folk that
I was talking to.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know what, they said, we don't know about saving democracy.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We want to fix it. We want to fix democracy.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay, we don't know that we want to save this
democracy as we presently define it. And they talked about
the feelings of exclusion and how we have yet to
(14:43):
make the promise of America the practice of America for
all Americans, and all of a sudden, it was like
a light bulb went on my own head, because you know,
for many of our young adults today, it really is
(15:03):
about fixing democracy for them and not saving it. So
I think we have to do a lot more to
listen and to speak in the language and use words
that resonate of not just why it's important, but to
(15:26):
be able to speak, not necessarily a new language, but
to be able to listen more effectively for what are
the right words to inspire and to motivate. I also
heard they're looking for more personalization. It's kind of like,
(15:48):
what's in it for me?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Okay, you know what's in it for me?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And I think we gotta personalize it more and talk
about it and bring it down to a level.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
What is in it for you.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
My mother was born in the nineteen forties in Macon, Georgia,
and I've shared with our listeners many times before that
when my mother became of age to vote, it was
not yet legal for women to vote in this country.
So I've always voted with an intentional responsibility to honor
(16:27):
her and my grandmother. Sometimes we hear about the civil
rights movement and Jim Crow and segregation and redlining and
all of these things that we dealt with, and we
think that they're way way way back in the history
of our country. No, this is my mother, not my
great grandmother. Not my great great, my mom.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I think.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Where we missed the mark with our young people as
we expect them to have that same sense of determination
with regards to their responsibility as voters, and as you
just put it, they're engaged in a different way, and
it's okay for them to want to know what's in
this for me. If I'm going to participate in this,
I should get something out of it. And us having
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to say at more than once that it's the most
important election of our lifetime has kind of taken some
of the gravity away from that phrase. But I think
we collectively learn something they taught you and then you
taught us that we have to figure out the proper
messaging forgen Z and that generation behind.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Ours and.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Try to collectively figure out a way to get them
energized and involved, because I don't think we can get
the America that we want without their participation.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
No question about it. So no question about it.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
God bless you again for making some time for us,
for honoring us with your presence. We would spend the
next hour just telling you how awesome you are and
how fortunate we feel that you took time out of
your day to come and have a conversation with us.
If there's anything else that you'd like to say before
we part ways, please do well.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I would just say that both of you, May God
continue to use you and strengthen you, and know that
what you are doing is making a real contribution, a
real contribution because you're reaching voices. You're reaching voices and
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giving a new generation the inspiration that they need to
use that voice for the development of all of us.
So I thank you, and may God continue to strengthen
and bless each of you.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You know, I know that it's a lot longer than this,
but I'm going to go through it one more time
and I want you to kind of hear the story,
the legacy, the impact that our guest has made. Alexis
(19:06):
Hermann again, Thank you again. Formerly the twenty third US
Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton and the first African
American to hold that position. She's here with us right now.
She was also the Assistant to the President and director
of the White House Office of Public Engagement.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
She's right here with us.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We didn't get to talk about, you know, your relationship
with Dorothy Heyde.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
We didn't get there.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
There's so many other parts of your story that we
didn't get to, but sufficed to say, it's been an
honor to have a conversation with you. The pleasure is
ours and my hope is that we'll be able to
do it again in long form.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
And I would love to do it.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And it's specially to talk about my beloved sir, good mom,
Dorothy Height.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The first young adult vice president of the National Council
of Negro.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Women's got to have that conversation because of Dorothy Alight.
She raised me, she trained me.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Well, thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Let's do it again, so bless you.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
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