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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's been another busy newsweek and we like to review
the major stories of the week here on the Black
Information Network. Today, we are joined by Black Information Network
news anchors Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens to discuss this
week's major stories. This is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast.
I'm your host ramses Jah.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And I am your host q Ward.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All right, So, Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens, welcome back
to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How are you doing today.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm very good, thank you. This year is already off
and running fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Okay, and Mike, I know you're champion at the bit too. Man,
talk to me kind to stay alive in twenty five
I I heard that I ain't mad at you. All right, Well,
let's peel back some malayers here. I'll go first. The
disrespect never ends. Even after conceding the presidential race and
participating in the certification of the elections, some politicians still
find ways to disrespect the first black and female VP
(00:51):
of the United States, and one incident was on full
display this week. And I soa let's get things started
with you tell us more about this story, and then
Mike will come to you next.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, may I First, the class act that is our
vice president. First, she displayed nothing but dignity and grace
through this whole transition of power. Now the incident you're
referring to old and white. This the husband of Senator
deb Fisher out of Nebraska. He outright refused to shake
(01:23):
her hand. His wife did with a smile when she
was sworn in. So after the swearing in, you know,
of course, she shook Senator Fisher's hand and she turned
to her husband. People are saying because he was leaning
on a cane while his other hand was on the
Bible and he didn't have a free hand. But whatever
it was, it was noticed by the Vice president. She
(01:45):
kind of raised an eyebrow, took her hand back, and
one smooth move, turned to the photographers who were there
to capture the moment, and smiled. What's the deal with
Bruce Fisher, We can only guess, but his actions took
away from his wife's memorable moment during her swearing in.
So it's just one of those things that was captured
(02:05):
in a picture. Says a thousand words, right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Absolutely, Mike, talk to me, man, Yeah, this just kind
of reminds me of back in the day when you
put up a hand for a high five, and the
other person wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Know, hit you back, keep your hanging. Yeah, that's what
sort of looked like to me. I mean, there may
be something else going on, but it just looked disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
More of the same.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
You know, we are asked and expected actually to be
full of class even when being blatantly disrespected. And here
we are again, as you guys mentioned, our very honorable
and regal vice president, showing class in the face of
(02:52):
disrespect once again. Because this isn't the first time that
those on the other side have gone out of the
way to try to make sure she felt some sort
of slighter disrespect. So you know, kudos to her for
continuing to be who she's always been.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Next.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
As an IVY League school, Yale University has always provided
classes designed to educate tomorrow's leaders. However, one of their
latest course offerings has raised a few eyebrows and made
headline this week. Mike, this time will start with you
if you are listening to some details on this story,
and then Vanessa will follow up with you.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
All right, so I'll give you the bullet points and
then you know, you guys can can all weigh in,
there are different layers to the story. In this class,
the Yale students are being asked to study the relationship
between black and white women, and it asks if they
can be friends. So the course titled No Time for
Tears looks at friendships between black women and white women,
(03:48):
and it's to see whether relationships between the different races
of women can develop on equal footing. Now, in college,
you have a variety of classes. Often that may seem
the strain. You know, the titles, But aside from questions
about the topics themselves, students in this class are also
guaranteed the grade of B plus if they meet the requirements,
(04:12):
and that's regardless of their grades on individual assignments. According
to one report, it says the course uses what's being
called contract grading, which is supposed to make it easier
for students to get good grades if they simply make
an effort. And some are calling this an anti racist
approach to assessment and a way of participating in educational
(04:37):
justice and equity. So I'm not exactly sure what to
think about this. There are racial implications, but I'm curious
as to you know, everyone else's thoughts.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Vanessa, Well, you know, I thought the title of this
course was can white women and Black women be friends?
And the answer is absolutely yes. I have quite a
few of white friends who are like sisters to me.
But this, of course, is deeper than that, because this
election was the ultimate betrayal. Here, our reproductive rights were
(05:15):
on the line, as well as other issues of decency, respect,
and women were supposed to stand together, which is why
many black women are now taking a mental health break.
They say, we did our part, we voted the right way,
and now many don't trust white women when the stakes
are high to come through. So it's interesting what's happening
now between our sisterhood.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
This came to me as a Fox News article, and
I cannot help but notice the biases and the anger
behind the words in nearly every Fox News article that
I read, Everything that feels progressive, exploratory like it, it
(06:07):
has the potential to heal. Fox News has this almost
this desire to pick it apart and find the flaws
in it. And the truth is there's flaws in everything.
But you know, for this effort, I say bravo, I
say kudos. How else are relationships supposed to improve if
(06:30):
not by taking an intentional academic critical examination of what
is how else do we find ways to make things better?
As far as the articles take on the grading system,
(06:50):
I am a person who has worked in an academic environment.
I've had to assign grades, and I understand that there
is an argument out there people that are fed up
with participation trophies and everybody gets the same. No, everyone
should get according to what it is that they produce. Sure,
(07:11):
that is one philosophy. I will see that entirely, But
there is a different approach when it comes to learning.
It is well understood there are different types of learning styles,
there are different types of education, and each of those
styles and education styles has different value in the real world.
(07:32):
And people with a limited view of education. Funnily enough,
are the people more likely to push back against something
like this. Where listen, if you come in off the street,
we're going to start you with a B plus if
you participate in this class, because that is the point
for you to learn something that can be useful given
your personality and how you can take this information and
(07:55):
translate it into the real world. Now, a traditional grading
system does don't really.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Work that way.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Add to that that traditional grading systems are absolutely biased
toward folks of European descent. This is well studied, well documented,
and so for people making an honest effort to explore
the relationships between two groups of women one of one
(08:22):
of those groups. For some reason, people feel like they
feel like people.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Don't understand them.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's very odd, but you know, as far as those
two groups and how they relate to each other, I
say kudos to Yale for this class. I say kudos
to the instructors for providing a scientific and indeed a
(08:49):
transferable strategy that will work in taking this content from
the classroom and make the ripple effect in the real world.
And I push back against the energy that I picked
up in that Fox News article. I say bravo to
all those involved. Black Information Network News anchors Vanessa Tyler
(09:11):
and Mike Stevens are here with us discussing this week's
major stories.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Up next, some disturbing news to report involving a white
nurse and her abusive treatment toward black infants at a Richmond,
ne natal care facility. Vanessa, let's go back to you
for this story, share more about it, and Mike, we're
gonna get your thoughts as well.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Oh, c. This is so disturbing.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It's not clear if all the babies were black, but
they were all boys. A black father has come for
it to say his son was one who had his
tippia broken. So all these infants with broken legs in
the precious nick you the Neo NATO intensive care unit,
and it took years to get to the bottom of this.
The nurse, identified as Aaron Strautman, has been charged with
(10:00):
child abuse. At one point she was suspended and then
allowed back to work. But there are so many of
these stories. I remember covering a killer nurse who was
injecting the elderly and killing them through IVS and being
fired and hired at several different hospitals. I'm sure the
hospital located in Henriiko County is bracing for multiple lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Mike, Yeah, this this can be called the ultimate betrayal.
You know, when you're in the hospital, especially with an
infant in a NICU, it can't speak for themselves. You're
really at the mercy of the medical staff, you know,
and parents can't stay in that, you know, they could.
They usually have an observation window, but the parents can't
(10:48):
be there all the time, so they're depending on the
medical staff to take care of the babies who are
in there for some reason or another, so they're even
more at risk than other infants. And when something like
this happens, it just makes you shake your head and say, wow,
you know, why would someone do something like this? It's
(11:08):
just a big why for me.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Honestly, Q and I talked about this when we were
putting together Civixcipher. This was one of the stories that
we floated and before, during, and after discussion discussing this
nurse and these black babies, because you're right, there were
(11:34):
some that weren't black, but I believe there was a
good number of them that were. I think it was
like seven in total.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah, I think five black babies and two that weren't.
And some of her colleagues or people's involved with the
story say that was just to throw us off the
scin that she was targeting black babies.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, I think that was how we discussed it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
But before, during, and after discussing this, I know that.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
This was.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Deeply emotional and incredibly unsettling, you know. And some of
the articles that we were looking through there's pictures of
these babies and you can see how defenseless they are.
And I think that there's something like innate and all
of us decent folk that can look at a baby
and appreciate life. We can appreciate the fact that we are,
(12:24):
that that's where we came from, that this being deserves
support helpless otherwise. And you know, for folks like me,
you know, your heart beats a certain way, you're like, Okay, well,
this is something that we're supposed to care for and
care about. And to know that this woman was hurting.
(12:45):
To know that anybody goes out of the way to
hurt black people is something that's it's very sad, but
you know, it's part of this journey that I've been
on and we've all been on. You know, there are
people that exist that want to hurt black people simply
because we have more melanin than they do. That's the
whole push. But for someone to an injured a newborn,
(13:13):
it shows how deep this evil can go. And you know,
if you had to ask me, at some point, I
would grow up and you know the world would not
change in the way that I had hoped that it
was going to change. And I had always been told
(13:34):
and that all the racists wouldn't die out the way
that I thought, And indeed, one day I'd be on
the news for all intents and purposes discussing a white
nurse breaking the bones of black newborns. I would have
thought there's no way that that world would even have
been possible back then, much less in the future.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And yet here we are.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I don't know what's coming this nurse's way, but I
don't imagine it will be enough. That is a vile, vile.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Thing to do.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But for our final story this week, we're gonna discuss
another case of police officers behaving badly during a routine
traffic stop. This is right up the alley for all
of us, So Mike, give us more on the story
first than Vanessa will come you next.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah. So, when I read the headline of this, I
had one thought about it, But then as I read
the story further, I realized that there can be considered
to be two sides of the story. So, in Ohio,
police officers accused of searching a five year old black
child during a routine traffic stop. The child was in
the car with his father and uncle. The father came
(14:47):
out of the car put his hands up, but then
this five year old child did the same thing, possibly
mimicking his father, and cops search both of them.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It searched the five year old child.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
The thought was that the father may have given the
boy something to hide. Police dogs did alert officers of
a controlled substance in the part of the car where
the child was. Later, a statement was put out saying
that they were concerned about the child having access to
drugs that could cause an overdose. So the officers higher
(15:30):
up said he did he acted properly. Here's the other hand,
if something really had happened to the child where the
father possibly had given him some sort of drug that
he inhaled, which has happened police and police did not
follow through, it would have the officer could have been
(15:50):
accused of negligence. So, you know, it seems to me
this is the kind of thing that happens more often
to black people. Some are calling them an abuse of
power that could traumatize a child, but you know, it's
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
There have been.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Cases where police officers have handcuffed young black children who've
done nothing wrong. So it's not out of reach to
think that this can happen for the wrong reasons. But
then again, perhaps in this case it was for the
right reasons.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Vanessa, your thoughts, the old routine traffic stop gone wrong?
How many times have we heard that? I remember there
was talk at one point of letting non police traffic
enforces do the job, since when it involves black drivers,
it often does not end with just a ticket, which
thankfully happened in this case with the father, Brandon Wilson,
(16:47):
just being cited. But this type of thing I believe
will impact that five year old. It was traumatic and
snatches a bit of his black innocence.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Vanessa said, more of the same.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
And we can just copy and paste this headline into
every week's script and it would fit. We'd have more
than one story that we can just insert after the
headline every week. And it's emotionally exhausting. And the old
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the dog said that there was a controlled substance. It's
something that personally I laugh at because I've had a
police dog make it a certainty that there were some
drugs on my person or in my car, and considering
the car was brand new, and I've never tried, transported
or carried a drug in my life, I found it
quite offensive that this dog was so certain that there
(17:43):
was a controlled substance in my car and that the
police had to tear my car apart to find it.
Of course they did not, and then told us Rams
was in the car with me at the time, that
someone with drugs must have brushed against my car some
thousand miles prior to this routine traffic stop. So again,
(18:05):
you know, we can't pretend to be in the minds
of those who do such a difficult and demanding job.
But I must say, if you're going to sign up
for such a difficult and demanding job, understand the stakes
and understand that you just have to be better at
that job than the citizens that you interact with.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, some interesting stories this week, but I'm not letting
you off the hook at all. So Vanessa, I'm gonna
need you to promote that podcast for.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Us, all right, Yes, I have up right now on
my podcast, Blackland. It's about a life changing story of
a now fourteen year old Kalaia Turner. She was bullied
so relentlessly in her South Carolina middle school that, at
age twelve, she attempted suicide. She took the belt of
(18:54):
her robe and her mother found her hanging in her room.
From her bunk bed was left with permanent brain damage. Again,
it's so heartbreaking, but you have to hear what her
mother is doing now to fight bullying and what she
has vowed to make what's left of her daughter mean something.
(19:15):
Hear the rest of the story, it's very compelling. On
my podcast black Land.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, we're all going to be sure to check that out.
Thank you both very much for your time and your insight.
Once again, today's guests are Black Information Network news anchors
Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens. This has been a production
of the Black Information Network. Today's show was produced by
Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts you'd like to share, use
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Speaker 2 (19:49):
I am q Ward on our social media as well.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
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perspective right here on the Black Information Network Daily podcast
It's been another busy newsweek and we like to review
the major stories of the week here on the Black
Information Network. Today, we are joined by Black Information Network
news anchors Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens to discuss this
week's major stories. This is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast.
I'm your host ramses Jah.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And I am your host q Ward.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All right, So, Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens, welcome back
to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How are you doing today.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm very good, thank you. This year is already off
and running fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Okay, and Mike, I know you're champion at the bit too. Man,
talk to me kind to stay alive in twenty five
I I heard that I ain't mad at you. All right, Well,
let's peel back some malayers here. I'll go first. The
disrespect never ends. Even after conceding the presidential race and
participating in the certification of the elections, some politicians still
find ways to disrespect the first black and female VP
(00:51):
of the United States, and one incident was on full
display this week. And I soa let's get things started
with you tell us more about this story, and then
Mike will come to you next.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, may I First, the class act that is our
vice president. First, she displayed nothing but dignity and grace
through this whole transition of power. Now the incident you're
referring to old and white. This the husband of Senator
deb Fisher out of Nebraska. He outright refused to shake
(01:23):
her hand. His wife did with a smile when she
was sworn in. So after the swearing in, you know,
of course, she shook Senator Fisher's hand and she turned
to her husband. People are saying because he was leaning
on a cane while his other hand was on the
Bible and he didn't have a free hand. But whatever
it was, it was noticed by the Vice president. She
(01:45):
kind of raised an eyebrow, took her hand back, and
one smooth move, turned to the photographers who were there
to capture the moment, and smiled. What's the deal with
Bruce Fisher, We can only guess, but his actions took
away from his wife's memorable moment during her swearing in.
So it's just one of those things that was captured
(02:05):
in a picture. Says a thousand words, right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Absolutely, Mike, talk to me, man, Yeah, this just kind
of reminds me of back in the day when you
put up a hand for a high five, and the
other person wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Know, hit you back, keep your hanging. Yeah, that's what
sort of looked like to me. I mean, there may
be something else going on, but it just looked disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
More of the same.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
You know, we are asked and expected actually to be
full of class even when being blatantly disrespected. And here
we are again, as you guys mentioned, our very honorable
and regal vice president, showing class in the face of
(02:52):
disrespect once again. Because this isn't the first time that
those on the other side have gone out of the
way to try to make sure she felt some sort
of slighter disrespect. So you know, kudos to her for
continuing to be who she's always been.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Next.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
As an IVY League school, Yale University has always provided
classes designed to educate tomorrow's leaders. However, one of their
latest course offerings has raised a few eyebrows and made
headline this week. Mike, this time will start with you
if you are listening to some details on this story,
and then Vanessa will follow up with you.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
All right, so I'll give you the bullet points and
then you know, you guys can can all weigh in,
there are different layers to the story. In this class,
the Yale students are being asked to study the relationship
between black and white women, and it asks if they
can be friends. So the course titled No Time for
Tears looks at friendships between black women and white women,
(03:48):
and it's to see whether relationships between the different races
of women can develop on equal footing. Now, in college,
you have a variety of classes. Often that may seem
the strain. You know, the titles, But aside from questions
about the topics themselves, students in this class are also
guaranteed the grade of B plus if they meet the requirements,
(04:12):
and that's regardless of their grades on individual assignments. According
to one report, it says the course uses what's being
called contract grading, which is supposed to make it easier
for students to get good grades if they simply make
an effort. And some are calling this an anti racist
approach to assessment and a way of participating in educational
(04:37):
justice and equity. So I'm not exactly sure what to
think about this. There are racial implications, but I'm curious
as to you know, everyone else's thoughts.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Vanessa, Well, you know, I thought the title of this
course was can white women and Black women be friends?
And the answer is absolutely yes. I have quite a
few of white friends who are like sisters to me.
But this, of course, is deeper than that, because this
election was the ultimate betrayal. Here, our reproductive rights were
(05:15):
on the line, as well as other issues of decency, respect,
and women were supposed to stand together, which is why
many black women are now taking a mental health break.
They say, we did our part, we voted the right way,
and now many don't trust white women when the stakes
are high to come through. So it's interesting what's happening
now between our sisterhood.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
This came to me as a Fox News article, and
I cannot help but notice the biases and the anger
behind the words in nearly every Fox News article that
I read, Everything that feels progressive, exploratory like it, it
(06:07):
has the potential to heal. Fox News has this almost
this desire to pick it apart and find the flaws
in it. And the truth is there's flaws in everything.
But you know, for this effort, I say bravo, I
say kudos. How else are relationships supposed to improve if
(06:30):
not by taking an intentional academic critical examination of what
is how else do we find ways to make things better?
As far as the articles take on the grading system,
(06:50):
I am a person who has worked in an academic environment.
I've had to assign grades, and I understand that there
is an argument out there people that are fed up
with participation trophies and everybody gets the same. No, everyone
should get according to what it is that they produce. Sure,
(07:11):
that is one philosophy. I will see that entirely, But
there is a different approach when it comes to learning.
It is well understood there are different types of learning styles,
there are different types of education, and each of those
styles and education styles has different value in the real world.
(07:32):
And people with a limited view of education. Funnily enough,
are the people more likely to push back against something
like this. Where listen, if you come in off the street,
we're going to start you with a B plus if
you participate in this class, because that is the point
for you to learn something that can be useful given
your personality and how you can take this information and
(07:55):
translate it into the real world. Now, a traditional grading
system does don't really.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Work that way.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Add to that that traditional grading systems are absolutely biased
toward folks of European descent. This is well studied, well documented,
and so for people making an honest effort to explore
the relationships between two groups of women one of one
(08:22):
of those groups. For some reason, people feel like they
feel like people.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Don't understand them.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's very odd, but you know, as far as those
two groups and how they relate to each other, I
say kudos to Yale for this class. I say kudos
to the instructors for providing a scientific and indeed a
(08:49):
transferable strategy that will work in taking this content from
the classroom and make the ripple effect in the real world.
And I push back against the energy that I picked
up in that Fox News article. I say bravo to
all those involved. Black Information Network News anchors Vanessa Tyler
(09:11):
and Mike Stevens are here with us discussing this week's
major stories.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Up next, some disturbing news to report involving a white
nurse and her abusive treatment toward black infants at a Richmond,
ne natal care facility. Vanessa, let's go back to you
for this story, share more about it, and Mike, we're
gonna get your thoughts as well.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Oh, c. This is so disturbing.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It's not clear if all the babies were black, but
they were all boys. A black father has come for
it to say his son was one who had his
tippia broken. So all these infants with broken legs in
the precious nick you the Neo NATO intensive care unit,
and it took years to get to the bottom of this.
The nurse, identified as Aaron Strautman, has been charged with
(10:00):
child abuse. At one point she was suspended and then
allowed back to work. But there are so many of
these stories. I remember covering a killer nurse who was
injecting the elderly and killing them through IVS and being
fired and hired at several different hospitals. I'm sure the
hospital located in Henriiko County is bracing for multiple lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Mike, Yeah, this this can be called the ultimate betrayal.
You know, when you're in the hospital, especially with an
infant in a NICU, it can't speak for themselves. You're
really at the mercy of the medical staff, you know,
and parents can't stay in that, you know, they could.
They usually have an observation window, but the parents can't
(10:48):
be there all the time, so they're depending on the
medical staff to take care of the babies who are
in there for some reason or another, so they're even
more at risk than other infants. And when something like
this happens, it just makes you shake your head and say, wow,
you know, why would someone do something like this? It's
(11:08):
just a big why for me.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Honestly, Q and I talked about this when we were
putting together Civixcipher. This was one of the stories that
we floated and before, during, and after discussion discussing this
nurse and these black babies, because you're right, there were
(11:34):
some that weren't black, but I believe there was a
good number of them that were. I think it was
like seven in total.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah, I think five black babies and two that weren't.
And some of her colleagues or people's involved with the
story say that was just to throw us off the
scin that she was targeting black babies.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, I think that was how we discussed it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
But before, during, and after discussing this, I know that.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
This was.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Deeply emotional and incredibly unsettling, you know. And some of
the articles that we were looking through there's pictures of
these babies and you can see how defenseless they are.
And I think that there's something like innate and all
of us decent folk that can look at a baby
and appreciate life. We can appreciate the fact that we are,
(12:24):
that that's where we came from, that this being deserves
support helpless otherwise. And you know, for folks like me,
you know, your heart beats a certain way, you're like, Okay, well,
this is something that we're supposed to care for and
care about. And to know that this woman was hurting.
(12:45):
To know that anybody goes out of the way to
hurt black people is something that's it's very sad, but
you know, it's part of this journey that I've been
on and we've all been on. You know, there are
people that exist that want to hurt black people simply
because we have more melanin than they do. That's the
whole push. But for someone to an injured a newborn,
(13:13):
it shows how deep this evil can go. And you know,
if you had to ask me, at some point, I
would grow up and you know the world would not
change in the way that I had hoped that it
was going to change. And I had always been told
(13:34):
and that all the racists wouldn't die out the way
that I thought, And indeed, one day I'd be on
the news for all intents and purposes discussing a white
nurse breaking the bones of black newborns. I would have
thought there's no way that that world would even have
been possible back then, much less in the future.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And yet here we are.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I don't know what's coming this nurse's way, but I
don't imagine it will be enough. That is a vile, vile.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Thing to do.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But for our final story this week, we're gonna discuss
another case of police officers behaving badly during a routine
traffic stop. This is right up the alley for all
of us, So Mike, give us more on the story
first than Vanessa will come you next.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah. So, when I read the headline of this, I
had one thought about it, But then as I read
the story further, I realized that there can be considered
to be two sides of the story. So, in Ohio,
police officers accused of searching a five year old black
child during a routine traffic stop. The child was in
the car with his father and uncle. The father came
(14:47):
out of the car put his hands up, but then
this five year old child did the same thing, possibly
mimicking his father, and cops search both of them.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It searched the five year old child.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
The thought was that the father may have given the
boy something to hide. Police dogs did alert officers of
a controlled substance in the part of the car where
the child was. Later, a statement was put out saying
that they were concerned about the child having access to
drugs that could cause an overdose. So the officers higher
(15:30):
up said he did he acted properly. Here's the other hand,
if something really had happened to the child where the
father possibly had given him some sort of drug that
he inhaled, which has happened police and police did not
follow through, it would have the officer could have been
(15:50):
accused of negligence. So, you know, it seems to me
this is the kind of thing that happens more often
to black people. Some are calling them an abuse of
power that could traumatize a child, but you know, it's
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
There have been.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Cases where police officers have handcuffed young black children who've
done nothing wrong. So it's not out of reach to
think that this can happen for the wrong reasons. But
then again, perhaps in this case it was for the
right reasons.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Vanessa, your thoughts, the old routine traffic stop gone wrong?
How many times have we heard that? I remember there
was talk at one point of letting non police traffic
enforces do the job, since when it involves black drivers,
it often does not end with just a ticket, which
thankfully happened in this case with the father, Brandon Wilson,
(16:47):
just being cited. But this type of thing I believe
will impact that five year old. It was traumatic and
snatches a bit of his black innocence.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Vanessa said, more of the same.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
And we can just copy and paste this headline into
every week's script and it would fit. We'd have more
than one story that we can just insert after the
headline every week. And it's emotionally exhausting. And the old
(17:21):
the dog said that there was a controlled substance. It's
something that personally I laugh at because I've had a
police dog make it a certainty that there were some
drugs on my person or in my car, and considering
the car was brand new, and I've never tried, transported
or carried a drug in my life, I found it
quite offensive that this dog was so certain that there
(17:43):
was a controlled substance in my car and that the
police had to tear my car apart to find it.
Of course they did not, and then told us Rams
was in the car with me at the time, that
someone with drugs must have brushed against my car some
thousand miles prior to this routine traffic stop. So again,
(18:05):
you know, we can't pretend to be in the minds
of those who do such a difficult and demanding job.
But I must say, if you're going to sign up
for such a difficult and demanding job, understand the stakes
and understand that you just have to be better at
that job than the citizens that you interact with.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, some interesting stories this week, but I'm not letting
you off the hook at all. So Vanessa, I'm gonna
need you to promote that podcast for.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Us, all right, Yes, I have up right now on
my podcast, Blackland. It's about a life changing story of
a now fourteen year old Kalaia Turner. She was bullied
so relentlessly in her South Carolina middle school that, at
age twelve, she attempted suicide. She took the belt of
(18:54):
her robe and her mother found her hanging in her room.
From her bunk bed was left with permanent brain damage. Again,
it's so heartbreaking, but you have to hear what her
mother is doing now to fight bullying and what she
has vowed to make what's left of her daughter mean something.
(19:15):
Hear the rest of the story, it's very compelling. On
my podcast black Land.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, we're all going to be sure to check that out.
Thank you both very much for your time and your insight.
Once again, today's guests are Black Information Network news anchors
Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens. This has been a production
of the Black Information Network. Today's show was produced by
Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts you'd like to share, use
the red microphone talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. While
(19:42):
you're there, be sure to hit subscribe and download all
of our episodes. I'm your host Rams's Jah on all
social media and.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I am q Ward on our social media as well.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And we'll be hosting another episode of Civic Cipher this
weekend on a station near you. For stations, showtimes, and
podcast info, check civicxcite dot com and join us Monday
as we share our news with our voice from our
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