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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's been another busy news week and we like to
review the major stories of the week here on the
Black Information Network. Today, we are joined by Black Information
Network news anchors Terry McCready and Kevin Brown to discuss
this week's major stories. This is the Black Information Network
Daily Podcast, and I'm your host ramses Jah. All right,
Terry and Kevin, welcome back to the show. Terry, how

(00:23):
was your June team, Well, it was wonderful.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You know, it's just so interesting.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Every year we're seeing more celebrations, more involvement, and people
really just getting excited about the meaning of what this
day is all about. So I'm so encouraged going forward
and you know next year will be even better.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Absolutely, and Kevin, I'd love to hear about yours as well.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah, I had the opportunity to be a part of
a multicultural June teen an event and it was surprising
to see how many people from different cultures were a
part of this event. It was incur urging.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh yeah, that's beautiful to hear. I spent my June
teenth enjoying the pop out with the Cannon Friends the
concert doing a live stream with Q out. I'll have
more on that in the days to come, because that
was really a special moment. And then of course I
got a Juneteenth gift from a neighbor of mine. She

(01:21):
was a white lady, and she decided to walk one
over and drop up a gift for me and my kids.
So I had a great June teenth too. But I
know that everyone is here to recap the news stories
from this week, so let's not keep waiting any longer.
First up motives aside, an interesting narrative is beginning to
emerge as Senator Tim Scott can no longer claim to
be the only high profile blackmail politician publicly supporting former

(01:44):
President Donald Trump. Former Detroit mayor Kwame Kopatrick just announced
he's endorsing Trump, and most recently, forty eight year old
black Republican Byron Donald made news when he voiced his
thoughts about the vice presidency role while out supporting Trump. So, Terry,
you discussed this story some more first, and then Kevin,

(02:05):
we're going to follow up with you.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Okay, So Florida Representative Donald's you know, he's standing by
ready to serve as the Trump wingman if he's called
up to do so. And I find it interesting you
know that he's citing judgment as one of his more
formidable vices. Right, how terribly convenient it isn't helping him

(02:28):
with any discernment, at least not the kind that we
would hope he'd have to recognize that, you know, someone
with a laundry list of charges, a convicted felon buying
the presidency. It's sort of a myopic depravity for Donald's
and also Tim Scott, it's pretty breathtaking. He says, whatever

(02:49):
Trump does, he's going to support. And I find that alarming.
I'm sure a lot of other people do as well. Sure,
you know, Trump, as we all know, can be this
unguided missile, prone to saying these out of pocket things.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
On the daily.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
He's praising Hitler, Hannibal elector, he's continuing with dangerous rhetoric
about rinked elections, coded language of how we're going to
make sure that election subversion doesn't occur again as it did,
you know, twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
So I guess that means that.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Donald's is just fine with conspiracies as long as he's
the VP pick. And so I just look at this
as blind ambition versus democracy on the ballot.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
There you go, I'm not mad at that, Kevin, what
you got for me?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
It seems that the former president Donald Trump is looking
for a viable candidate to do what black Republicans do,
which is to have some sort of substance when it
comes to trying to pull black voters from Democrats. Tim

(03:59):
Scott is a weak candidate for that role obviously. Kwame
Killpatrick owes Donald Trump wife because he was convicted and
in federal court twenty eight years and only served seven.
So I think it was in the last twelve hours
of Trump's presidency is when he decided to commute the

(04:23):
sentence of Kwame Killpatrick. So his life has been changed.
And let me tell you, what he did to Detroit
is basically what Trump is trying to do to the country.
So I understand with it why they see eya eye
Byron Donald during an interview said he was smart. He

(04:47):
listed that as one of his qualifications for being vice president.
And someone else who is not yet seriously considered because
he's running for North Carolina the governor the governor seat
in North Carolina, Mark Robinson. Yes, Mark Robinson is probably

(05:11):
closer to what Trump is looking for because he's television
friendly he produces sound bites that foxes can use to
fire up the magabase. Byron Donald and Kwame Killpatrick and
Tim Scott don't do that. But Mark Robinson is a

(05:35):
serious contender for the position of governor in North Carolina,
despite the fact that he doesn't pay his child support
and has has a list of other oh my goodness,
a few other issues. So he's got he's got an
interesting way to go. I don't believe it will be

(05:56):
a person of color. However, Tim Kwami and Byron I
don't think they fit the bill for what Trump.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Is looking for. Yeah, and plus, you know, within Trump's mind,
all the black voters are going to vote for him anyway,
So why would he need to do that, you know,
performative action to get black voters when again, in his mind,
we're all going to vote for him anyway. But you
know the crazy thing is him, Yeah, exactly, exactly so,
but you know his mind is not the only one

(06:27):
that is, you know, so far gone. Because indeed, Byron Donald,
I'm going to read a quote from him. He says, quote, look,
I think that I would have an ability to step in.
This is when he was asked would he be able
to function in the president's role if something happened to
Donald Trump, if theoretically he was Donald Trump's BP prick pick. Okay,

(06:50):
so quote, Look, I think that I would have an
ability to step in. I'm actually pretty intelligent. I can
sift through issues really really well. It's about judgment, it's
about logic streams, it's about how you make decisions at
the end of the day. And then you cannot discount
the fact that you would have a lot of people
who are very qualified to be around to help you

(07:11):
do that job and do what's in the best interest
of the American people. I believe in myself one percent.
I do. And so you know, we'll see what President
Trump decides. I'm going to support whatever he does. And
so this is kind of his entire rant on that issue.
But it feels a little self righteous and self centered.

(07:34):
And you know when a person starts to pat themselves
on the back in a way that it's almost like
he's trying to convince himself, you know what I mean.
You know, I don't think I've had a problem in
the in terms of my cognitive abilities, but for me
to say out loud, you know, I'm really intelligent it's

(07:56):
almost like I'm trying to convince someone of something. It's
either a given or just you know, it's not the
sort of thing you need to talk about out loud,
And so that threw me for a loop, But I digress. Anyway,
We'll see what happens with that guy. Moving on next up.
Hard to believe in twenty twenty four that a recent
Congressional vote came down to the wire that would have
restored a racist statue at one of America's biggest national cemeteries. Kevin,

(08:18):
this time, we're going to start with you, give us
some more details on history, and than tell Terry. We're
going to follow up with you to round us out.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, the statue is a Confederate memorial the Congressional Republicans
wanted restored and placed into Arlington National Cemetery. This statue
features stereotypical images of black people. It was originally the

(08:46):
Daughters of the Confederacy had this statue placed in Arlington
National Cemetery, and as usual, whatever Republicans want to do,
Black Republicans co signed, regardless of the legislation and what
it represents there this this statue taken down for a

(09:12):
reason because only in America is there such a focus
on the losers of the Civil War. There is season
that the South just won't let let that situation go.
The national flag of the Confederacy is a white one.
Give up because they lost the war. And you don't

(09:36):
find anywhere across the globe where the side that lost
the war in a country is so celebrated the way
the Confederacy is here in America.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
All right, Terry, let's get you okay, Well, speaking of racist,
misogynistic flamethrowers, you know, it's it's it's pretty astonishing that
this the restoration of this statue was so narrowly defeated.
We're talking one two thirty. That's problematic, that's extremely slim,
something like three dozen or so of you know, these

(10:10):
House Republicans were actually angry that an independent commission, you know,
removed it in twenty twenty three, and then they had
the unmitigated goal to tell the Black Secretary of Defense,
Lloyd Austin, that the commission overstepped its authority. You know, wow,
really overstepped.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
The argument was that the statue was emblematic of national unity,
if you can believe that, and so it was palpable
that House Minority and Leader Jeffries then asked some very
pivotal questions.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
What Confederate traditions are being upheld.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Anyway, Lynching's rape, racial oppression, and let's be honest, you know,
this effort was being cloaked inside the Defense Authorization Act,
which ultimately understood it to be exactly what it is,
and that is just purely abhorrent.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah. Yeah, And you know something interesting here too, is
that you mentioned that the statue was removed in twenty
twenty three, but I want people to know that it
was removed in December of twenty twenty three, like kind
of like the other day. And these Republicans have put
together this effort to try to bring it back, and

(11:23):
that's a testament to their coordination. And I'm sure that
they won't stop, you know they if they got Roe v. Wade,
if they got affirmative action and all this stuff, I'm
sure they can get a couple of statues back. But
I think that this and at least one other story
that we're talking about today, really shows the importance of
voting in every election, you know, your mid terms, your

(11:44):
local elections, all that sort of stuff. But yeah, this
is you know, I think Kevin, you mentioned it that
this is something that they just won't let go again.
They had a five year run that you know, the
con to receive like the bona fide Confederate States of
America had. So when people look back at the traditions

(12:08):
and whatever, I mean, there's not long It's not long
enough to really have a tradition, you know what I'm saying.
I have t shirts older than the Confederates. It's not
like it was around for one hundred years or anything
like that. It was five years and they were they
were completely destroyed and then they had to pay restitute,
like just obliterated. Right. So the folks that want to

(12:32):
hang on to the Confederacy are really trying to say
that they want to hang on to the old ways
of the South. And as you mentioned, that's or as
as you mentioned Terry On behalf of Aqem Jeffries, that's
you know, the the lynching, the raping, the slavery, you know,
all the things that we as a country have gotten past.

(12:52):
But people that want to, you know, have these monuments
and fly that Confederate flag are the people that you know,
in their heart of hearts, they're not holding onto tradition.
They're not. There's nothing to that. It's a five year run,
you know what I'm saying, there's and then nobody was
alive during that time either. So again, the white flag
is the flag of the South, the Confederate States of America.

(13:14):
And you know, even the definition of a conservative is
a person who is averse to change or innovation. And
you know, a person holding traditional values, to be fair,
but that aversion to change and innovation is something that
is kind of part and parcel to that. That branch
of the government these days, and traditional values, I think

(13:38):
has kind of grown to just espouse a traditional, more
foundational America where you know, white male landowners were at
the top and they were the ones able to shape
society in a way that suited them best. And now
that the rest of us have a voice, they are
longing for those days of old. There is no legacy there,

(14:00):
there's no history, there's nothing there of any value other men.
They want more power back in their pockets.

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Speaker 1 (14:21):
Black Information Network news anchors Terry McCready and Kevin Browner
here with us discussing this week's major stories. All right,
next up, I love this story. Black Maryland Governor Wes
Moore made headlines twice this week by first discussing on
the Sunday CBS program Face the Nation, the billion dollar
price tag to repair Baltimore's Francis Scott Keybridge, and then

(14:42):
also for his unusual move regarding thousands of marijuana based
convictions in the state. Terry. This is a story that
you and Kevin have covered for the network. So let's
get some more details from you, first on Governor Moore's
marijuana partons, and then Kevin, I want you to weigh
after that.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Okay, So why don't think there are many people who
would be surprised if about the cost repair this massive structure.
Moore said that there was a partnership with the Biden administration.
It's solid and the federal cost share is what is
needed to expedite this work, and he says that this
is an effort that will ultimately propel the American economy.
We've seen the Port of Baltimore is now fully reopened,

(15:18):
which is pretty ambitious since this collapse just happened back
in March. Typically, there was initial pushback from the GOP
when President Biden promised that the government would be paying
for it, but Governor Moore said, so far, so good,
and cooperation on both sides of the aisle has been
very encouraging. So as far as this mass pardon of

(15:41):
one hundred and seventy five thousand low level marijuana convictions,
this is an aggressive executive action. It's also one that's
in step with the trends that we've seen for a
long time. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, and
really the numbers don't lie. Blacks are three times more
likely than white people to be arrested on marijuana charges,

(16:02):
which then, as the governor points out, becomes this sort
of seamless pathway to denial of housing, education, and job opportunities.
And this occurs even after time served. So ultimately we're
talking about a sociological crisis.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, and I want to add to that briefly that
the studies also show that black people, while they're arrested
at three times the rate, and they're disproportionately and more
harshly convicted, are also using marijuana historically speaking at the
same exact rates as white people. So that shows over policing.
That shows overreached by the entirety of the criminal justice system.

(16:43):
But before I weigh in anymore, Kevin, let's get you
to weigh in here.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, you stole some of my thunder.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
That man, I didn't know. I just want to make
sure I got in there. But we're in sync, so
go ahead, no problem.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
But there is an interesting another sign to this which
I find fascinating, which is Wes Moore. He is a
person to watch if this democracy survives the next election,
because on the right track, he has the pedigree, and

(17:18):
I believe that this is he's leading the way for
other Democratic governors follow suit in a manner that as
Republicans have together across the country done everything possible to

(17:38):
reduce voter roles in minority communities, make it tougher for
voters to register to vote, Democrats, following wes Moore's lead
can unleash a wave of additional Democratic voters by just
the stroke of a pen. Because this, look, this is

(18:04):
hand to hand combat. It's not about making speeches or
looking good or legislation Republicans are very, very, very effective
at marketing despite the fact that they have very few
legislative achievements. However, they're tied in the polls. This is

(18:25):
almost Jerry Springer like government. Yeah, it is performance, it's
not exactly it's theater, it's not substance. And Democrats are
a little bit behind the eight ball because they are
focusing on, well, look what we've done, and the public
is lukewarm to that, but they respond because they're not

(18:49):
paying attention to marketing messages and Republicans are very good
at that. So wesmore along JB. Pritzker of Illinois, another
governor who isn't afraid to speak truth about what's going
on on the other side of the aisle and how

(19:09):
it affects the country. And also Gavin Newsom to a
lesser extent, but he has a little baggage. But other
individuals who I suspect will take this issue of sweeping
the roles and allowing more Democrats to be a part

(19:30):
of this coming election.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, no, I'm not mad at that. And you know,
I think another thing that we see here is just
again the importance of making sure you're voting in every
election and making sure that you're engaged politically, because it's
the people in your community that can shape outcomes for
you in a more profound way than people a million

(19:55):
whiles away in d C. Or well, I know we're
on in DC, but you know from most of the country,
DC is a hike. And so you know, there's a
lot to be said about actions like this and how
it can shape outcomes and really bring about restorative justice
and to bring about a more equitable go at the

(20:19):
American dream because you know, now there's one hundred and
seventy five thousand people who can get back on track.
You know, they have been again disproportionately victimized by the
criminal justice system. And let's not forget that marijuana was criminalized,

(20:39):
I believe in part by j Edgar Hoover. So this
was a governmental initiative to criminalize marijuana, and I believe
it would have been like it was one other drug.
And the idea was to disrupt the Black power movement
and the hippie movement. The government was behind the criminalization
of marijuana so that they could target black people and

(21:01):
they have done right. And now this is lingered in
the air for now fifty sixty years whatever, and we've
suffered as a result of that as a community. As
you mentioned, job opportunities, housing opportunities, et cetera. The foundational
elements of the American dream and most American pursuits have
been compromised for Black people, who again use marijuana at

(21:24):
the same rates as white people, but again due to
over policing. And you know, once you're in the criminal
justice system, black people's sentences tend to be way higher
than non black people. White people get a slap on
the risk. Sometimes they don't even get arrested, just get
their pot poured out on the street, keep it clean, kids,
have a nice night. So yeah, this restorative justice is

(21:46):
something that I can absolutely appreciate. Let's vote for more
black people so that we can get more positive black outcomes.
All right, final stories for this week. We celebrated the
Juneteenth holiday, but we also warn the loss of baseball
icon Willie Mays stylist Angela Beaufield. To close out today's program,
let's take a moment to share and reflect on their
contributions to our community. Kevin, We're going to start with

(22:07):
you and get your thoughts on Willie Mays and Angela
Beaufield and then Terry, We're going to come to you
to close this out.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Oh my goodness, because both of those stories have Bay
Area connections. I spent over twenty two years on local radio,
had an opportunity to be in the presence of Willie Mays.
And although the narrative is about his accomplishments, and rightfully so,

(22:38):
less time is spent on the era and what Willie
Mays had to go through in order to be one
of the most incredible baseball players ever, a twenty four
time All Star from Westfield, Alabama, without the benefit of steroids,

(23:00):
just grits and fried chicken. He and Hank Aaron. What
else did they eat from Alabama but lots of grits, greens,
and fried chicken and to become a twenty four time
All Star for Willie Mays, and less attention is being
paid to these individuals and how they endured. Both he

(23:24):
and Hank Aaron both Negro League stars and Baseball Hall
of Famers twenty five times for Hank Aaron and twenty
four for Willie Mays. Also another Bay Area connection, Angela Bofield.
She and I both New Yorkers who spent time in California.

(23:48):
I had the privilege of spending time with Angela, and
although she was a serious, perfect pitch song stylist, I
got to her as someone with an incredible sense of humor.
Off stage, she was very funny and engaging and professing personality.

(24:09):
And I want to shout out to Narda Michael Walden,
who did several benefits for Angela when she got sick. Narda,
who is incredible produce has worked with Whitney and Aretha
and Mariah and has I think twenty five Grammys as

(24:31):
a producer, really came to seriously put together some fundraisers
for Angela when she got sick a couple of years ago,
and I was privileged to be a part of that.
So these two individuals with Bay Area connections, it was

(24:53):
an interesting moment to reflect on both of these folks
who I had the privilege in the presence of.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Terry. Let's get your your thoughts here.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well as you know Kevin mentioned, you know Mays and
Aaron both grace and determination. One oh one I saw
in an interview Hank Aaron was talking about the game.
He was just so plaintive and simple when he said that,
you know, he came to play the game to do
his best, and he was the best. So even when
you know he's out there he's being ridiculed and rided,

(25:28):
he never lost sight of his singular goal, and that's what.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Won over even his detractors.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
So in that way, he was this incidental activist because
of his fortitude and unflappable vision, unlike say, some of
our more contemporary athletes like Colin Kaepernick, whose career took
a major blow because of this outright direct activism. Although
his message was palpable, as was Muhammad Ali's, but for

(25:56):
May's baseball was his singular of objective. You know, Angela Beauvil,
this really struck a chord with me, and I do
have a fun fact in the early two thousands, when
I was with a certain New York business network which
I won't name. You probably can figure out which one
I'm talking about. Anyway, At the time, I was an
anchor for the Urban Report. We were producing the Music

(26:19):
of Black the Business of Black Music, and so I
was really excited when we decided that we were going
to feature Angela Beauvil. Then I spoke with her manager
at the time and he said, Angela isn't black, therefore
she's not going to be participating. End of story, full stop.
And I was astonished. I was very disappointed. And you know,

(26:41):
I started to think, Okay, well, you know, record labels
and managers sometimes have their own ideas about mass appeal
and what the artist's vision is, even though you know,
she has always been fervently embraced by the R and
B and black community.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Then I started to sort of juxtaple, what's going on
right now?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
And I think we have this, you know, multi racial
tonality in music. There's a lot of cross pollination going on,
not only in terms of artists ethnicity, but also their
unique sounds, you know. And I thought of someone like
say Doja Cat, who I'm sure probably checks the other
box on the census form. If someone presented her with

(27:23):
an opportunity to do, say a Tina Turner review, I'm
guessing she'd jump at that opportunity because I'm thinking without
Tina Turner, there would be no Doja Cat, you know,
by the same token, right. You know, you remember a
few years ago, when I guess it was during the Grammys,
they had j Loo doing this Motown review and there

(27:44):
was just this mass revolt from the fans. They couldn't
believe it. Why j Lo, you know Beyonce Jannet Jackson,
who actually is Motown royalty by association. But you know
Jlo's thinking, you know, come on, mister DJ, let's get
this started. Wasn't pushing back from j Loo because you know,

(28:06):
she understood this was a great opportunity. But if you
look at, you know, motor City, you don't trifle with
with Motown because this is sort of this ubuncular unanimity.
This is like an extension of family. People see Motown
as this institution, this is the backdrop of our lives.
This is how we grew up. So people took it very,

(28:28):
very personally. So I just thought that was interesting. But
you know, you know, Angela Bofield's music was a rich
part of my own musical tapestry in the eighties. It
was a snapshot of what was going on at the time.
It was Angela d Trained, Patti Austin, Phyllis Hyman, Luther
Vandros and of course you know Angela's This time I'll
be Sweeter actually was this mega success in nineteen seventy eight.

(28:51):
Then she went on and did Antelita de la Noce,
which I used to sing to Angela of the Night,
and then it was you know, I try one of
my favorite and then she came out with Only Love,
which was I just adored Only Love because it was
this boyant, up tempo jazzy sound and had all the feels.

(29:11):
And then of course, as Kevin mentioned, her vocals were
absolutely resplendent and unique, and she was just very special.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
He was the ultimate superstar.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, there's you know, in terms of her her not
being black, I'm not sure if I ever shared this.
I always talk about, you know, I'm a DJ, and
I'm from Compton and all these things that become relevant,
which real quick shout out to Detroit because they do
not play You're absolutely right, they do not play about Motown.
But anyway, you know, my grandmother was from Cuba, you

(29:43):
know what I mean, So I have a strong connection
to Cuban artists, and Angela Beauphil is Cuban. She's half Cuban,
half Puerto Rican, not unlike Fat Joe. But you know,
a lot of people don't know Sammy Bavis Junior was Cuban,
you know what I mean. Because he it was easier
to pass as Puerto Rican at the time, but he

(30:06):
was he was a Cuban man, you know. And so
around here we call that black. Black people who speak Spanish,
you know, that's that's you know, come around, come around
where we live. You get treated black, you know what
I'm saying. And you're going to have the black experience,
and you're gonna be able to identify with the black experience.
And genetically speaking, you are composed of blackness. You know,

(30:28):
if I can see the kink in your hair and
I can see the melanin expressed in your skin, there's
a direct line to Africa and over on this part
of the world, we call that black. And so there
are people that try to rewrite their story because they
feel like they'll have an easier path toward success one
way or another. And I you know, everybody's playing the
game best, they know how some people from a different time.

(30:49):
You know, whatever your path is, you know that, you know,
good luck. But around here we call that black because
that's what it is. And then, of course, uh, just
to round out, you know, I wanted to share this
from USA today. I've admittedly not the biggest sports guy,
but you know, Willie Mays obviously is a name that
I know because he's bigger than sports by far, you know,

(31:13):
so from USA today. The Giants retired his uniform number
twenty four in nineteen seventy two. Remember that number twenty four. Okay,
the address of their home stadium at and T Ballpark
is twenty four Willie May's Plaza. His bronze statue in
front of the main entrance is surrounded by twenty four
palm trees, and the right field wall is twenty four

(31:34):
feet high. And he also received the Presidential Medal of
Freedom under Barack Obama, which I thought was really cool.
And then last thing I want to say here is
that Kevin, you were talking about this the I just
learned this myself, so let me not pretend like I
knew this a whole time. I learned from Qward. But
the MLB has recently started incorporating the Negro elites statistics

(31:59):
into their accounting for like great players and historical players
and figures and so forth, which has adjusted a lot
in the way of greatest players and you know, fantastic
phenomenal players and records and so forth. But what it
does is it has shown the greatness of black players

(32:20):
from the negro leagues and black people in history that
historically were not considered because their data wasn't incorporated. So
another neat little fun fact that I learned recently I
thought everyone would get a kick out of. But with
that in mine, that's it. That's all the news that
we were going to share for this week. So thank
you both very much for your time and your insight
has always once again. Today's guests are Black Information Network

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