May 24, 2024 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's been another busy news week and we like to
review the major stories of the week here on the
Black Information Network. Today, we are joined by Black Information
Network news anchors Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens to discuss
this week's major stories.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is the Black.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Information Network Daily Podcast, and I'm your host, Ramsey Jah.
All right, you too, Welcome back to the show. Vanessa,
how have you been. I hear you you were in
Aruba doing something crazy down there.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I wish no, I've been great. The weather's sun and
shining and warm here in the New York City area.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
All right, I love it. And Mike, I know we
just spoke was that yesterday?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But how are you doing?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Good? Man, doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Good? Glad to hear glad to hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
All right, Well, let's get to the news another day.
Another lawsuit for Diddy this week on the heels of
his recent disastrous apology video. Did he now has more
legal trouble on his play? Vanessa, let's get things started
with you tell us more about the story, and then
Mike will come to you to get your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The Diddy disaster. Oogel is going the way of Harvey Weinstein, R. Kelly,
even Bill Cosby. But in his case, there is video, raw, public, horrendous.
He apologized, but how can he come back from this
daily it's someone else's popping up with a case. There
are about seven lawsuits against him. The lady says you
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mentioned is from a model from twenty years ago, accusing
Puffy as he was known then, of drugging and sexually
assaulting her when she was looking for a mentor. We're
hearing how abusive and aggressive he was, not just with Cassie,
but others likely kept quiet with cash. He gave an apology,
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but if pictures are worth a thousand words, that video
will cost him tens of millions of dollars in lawsuits settlements.
And lastly, Cassie did release the statement saying, in part,
she just wished people believed her when she spoke out
from the beginning. And of course, the other shoe we're
waiting to drop from that FBI investigation and raid and
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association with what happened earlier this year. So bottom line,
Dinny is in trouble.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Mike, let's get you away in here.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, there was actually a new claim against him today.
I'm not sure and that's if that was included in
the ones you mentioned, but you know, there may be
more victims as well. We will continue to watch this one.
As for that video, just horrendous to see someone being
treated that way, kicked, thrown down. I mean, this has
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been an issue in the black community for longer than
I know from you know, previous generations, but it's unfortunate
it's continuing now. No woman should be treated that way.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, I actually read the report of this most recent
lawsuit of the woman who is kind of hoping that
Puffy would become her mentor and give her, you know,
some additional access to connections and so forth in the
music industry, and her account of what happened. It feels
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very disturbing to have read it. And you know, if
you like, you can, you know, check it out. It's
up on the website.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And then now of course now that because you know,
I do my best, especially when it comes to black people,
to give black people the benefit of the doubt, and
that gets a little sticky when it's black people saying
one thing happened and then black people saying another thing happened,
or a black person saying this and another black person
saying that, however, you know, you'd be hard pressed to
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find me celebrating the loss of a big name.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's it's more just like, Okay, justice was served, that
was what was supposed to happen. But it's not like
I'm dancing on the grave of someone like that. That's
just not my way.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Even worse, when there's video.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, And on the
heels of that video, everything feels more believable, and that
benefit of the doubt that I would normally assign to
it now feels more like he probably did that, you
know what I mean. And so when you read such
a graphic account of what happened and now you feel like,
(04:19):
oh man, if that happened, that is deeply disturbing. It
kind of shines a whole new light on this person
that I've danced to his music. You know, I'm a DJ,
so I've played his songs, and you know, growing up,
I would listen to, you know, all the artists on
his roster and even his own, you know, music that
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he put out. And now I'm you know, re examining
his time with Cameron Diaz and re examining his time
with j Loo, and I'm re examining, you know, all
these things like, well, how did this happen without us knowing?
Though I know there were rumors, but rumors are rumors.
But how did this happen for such a long time
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without us knowing? I mean, you can go back thirty
years and I guess the same is true with R. Kelly,
the same is true with Bill Cosby, and you know
these other names that we know. But it just feels
so disturbing when you hear the account of it, like
this person was able to do this and we.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You know, so I like the way you put in, Mike.
We're going to keep.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Following it and see what develops. But it does look like, yeah,
he's going to have to deal with some things now
because there's a lot of people that can never unsee
that video.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And you know, I've heard.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Diddy's done quite a bit these past couple of weeks
and certainly since that video.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Next up news from Pennsylvania involving a family of a
sixteen year old black child who was wrongfully executed. Mike,
let's start with you this time. You are listeners to
details on this story in the Vanessa will come to
you next.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, you know, this reminds me many of what happened
to em Mattil years years ago. And other black men
have been wrongly accused of some sort of crime or
looking at or something to a white woman and there's
a rush to judgment, there's lynching. This particular case goes
back almost one hundred years. The black teenager was executed
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by the state of Pennsylvania after being convicted of murder.
This was nineteen thirty one. His family has since followed
lawsuits seeking damages. After the conviction of Alexander McClay Williams
was vacated two years ago, a new trial was ordered.
Williams was convicted after a thirty four year old white
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woman was found slain inside her cottage by her ex husband.
Husband said he found her and then Williams was arrested
in charge with stabbing the woman dozens of times, but
there was no witnesses to the crime. The black man
was never seen at the scene of the crime. Instead,
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prosecutors just relied on confessions that we're said to be
coerced out of the sixteen year old. So since then,
the lawsuit says, prosecutors ignored evidence, including that the victim
had followed from divorce from her husband, saying he was
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extremely cruel. I mean, we're going into the weeds quite
a bit on this one, but you know, it sounds
like one of those true crime stories that we see now.
The husband is often the one who is responsible. But
yet they pended on this sixteen year old black teenager, Vanessa.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Let's get your thoughts here too.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, from all accounts, all evidence pointed to the husband.
There's no connection to this Williams at all. And the
thing about it is his last living sibling who was
basically the main one with this lawsuit. She's in her nineties,
so basically this is the last time anybody who even
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knew this guy Williams and the young boy would even
see any kind of justice. He was sent to the
electric chair within weeks. Now. One thing that's interesting, he
did have a black lawyer, William Ridley, who is said
to be the first black attorney in Delaware County, Pennsylvania,
but he brought this case before an all white jury,
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so it didn't really even matter. There was no chance
at all. So the family is we said, is suing.
There's really no dollar amount yet, but you know, they
deserve millions for what happened to that young boy.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah yeah, And this is I like this because it's
holding this country accountable for its history, and that's something
that America has gotten away with for far too long.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You know, you know what the real tragedy as well,
it's still happening today. Oh yeah, every day we're doing
stories about the exonerated exactly. So I'm at least those
people are coming out alive after thirty forty years.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And you know, the part of this that that is
a little unsettling is that, you know, how long this
has happened without consequences has led to the predicament that
we find ourselves in today. And I feel like with
more consequences, either one people will be more responsible with
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how they move, two people will be compensated if they
are treated wrongly black people in particular, or three both.
So you know, even though this is a tragic incident,
you know, this this resolution feels like it's not nothing,
you know, it's it's actually something, especially if there ends
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up being millions of dollars, you know, and and you know,
to just kind of fill in some gaps. I know
that they ignored a bloody handprint on the wall that
was presumed to be from the killer that wasn't investigated
at all during this trial. When they got the confession,
there was no parents present, there was no lawyers present.
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As you mentioned, they executed him like very quickly after
the trial of an all white jury, and you know,
the lawyer that took the case did so for ten dollars,
the black lawyer you mentioned. And I feel like that
black lawyer knew what he was up against, and that's
why he didn't try to prove his innocence, but rather
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to like ask for mercy from the court life in prison,
Please don't kill this boy, and then, you know, kick
that can down the road. We'll revisit it in five
years or try to get an appeal or a new
trial or whatever. And now I feel like that was
probably the strategy of that lawyer, and it ended up
costing this young man his life. The lady was stabbed
to death thirty four or thirty seven times with an
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ice pick, clearly by her husband, and her husband went
free and this boy never got to grow up. And
I just imagine the pain that this family endured knowing
the whole time that this guy was innocent, that their
son was innocent, that their brother was innocent, that you know,
and you know, I remember reading how they walked him
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to the electric chair, because that's how they took his life,
and you know the account of that, how he needed
help walking, just the amount of grief and just the
like I felt, the sadness for him. I'm feeling it now.
It's just what a horrible you know, And you mentioned
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the amount of people that are exonerated. I know that
they feel that on some level when they get sentenced
to twenty years and thirty years the football numbers, you
know what I mean, and they're not coming home, you know,
everybody's gonna be grown in it, moved away by the
time they get out. And that feeling of Okay, I
just lost my life for something I didn't even do.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
There was no DNA testing back, none of it. None
of it, and probably very few things they could do
with fingerprints and so forth, you know, not like the
technology that they have today. But just this quick rush
to judgment to assume that you know, somebody black did
the crime. And how many people have been sent to
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prison executed that will never know the truth. It's not
to say everybody is innocent, but I mean the ones
who did not do any wrong should not be punished.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Sure, at the Central Park five, I mean they're just
like handpicked, like you know what, will just choose you,
no rhyme or reason, just choose somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But that's That's Another great example is that they had
some people like you mentioned, they chose these people that
they're going to pin this crime I'm on, so that
the police can I don't know, appear as though they
are solving a crime to the public. I have no
idea why they would do this. And of course they
pick someone black, someone that they feel society wild not
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miss or whatever, and they ignore the actual police work
that goes into it. So once new evidence starts coming out,
they do their best to suppress it because it doesn't
fit the narrative that they've crafted or they've already stepped
into something, and now they're trying to engineer and manufacture
a case so that that can be true, rather than
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be an objective and identifying things and piecing it together
or repiecing it together. You know, even back then there
was no police work. You mentioned the DNA stuff, a handprint,
you know, a person like me. I have enormous hands.
I could pull them a basketball. I'm not a big guy,
but I got big hands. Right, My handprint looks very
different from pretty much everyone's, you know. And it's just
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the measurement of it. You know, there's something identify viiable there,
and it wasn't even discussed again. And it's just the
sadness of how disconnected, how divorce from reality that these
police were are and perhaps will continue to be, and
how it disproportionately negatively affects, you know, my people is
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very disheartening. And this is why I push so passionately
and frequently to have a critical re examination of policing
in this country, because these outcomes shaped by people that
are insulated from consequences, qualified immunity, you know whatever, and
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internal police investigate the police. How is there any objectivity there?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All these things that I push back against. This story
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Speaker 1 (15:08):
Black Information Network News anchors Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens
are here with us discussing this week's major stories. All right,
Next up, the feud between Texas Representative Jasmine Crockett and
Marjorie Taylor Green is still in the news this week,
especially with the announcement from Representative Crockett about her new
business venture. Vanessa, what's the latest on this story? And
then Mike, we'll get you to weigh in afterwards.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Ooh, can we say it together? Bleef blonde, bad built,
butch body body, because everyone is saying it huntry western songs.
I've heard rap songs. I even heard a gospel song
last night.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, the Clapbacks were singing it, the AI version.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It's crazy, and yes, Congresswoman Crockett is planning to make
money off of it. Trademarket put it on hats to
hoodies under the Crockett clap Back collection. That way, yeah,
that way. Marjorie Taylor Green, who is a weightlifter, She
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then put on social media her working out to show
how proud she is of that beach blonde, bad built,
butch body. But you know, it's it's funny, but it's
sad that it has disintegrated to that in our congressional discourse.
But a lot of people are saying that, you know,
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this finally puts MTG in her place. She is known
for going off and other people, and now she finally
has been shut down. But in a way because she's
back on social media right now kind of teasing aoc
about you know, the Bronx rally that Trump had recently.
(16:53):
So you know, she she'll never stop.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, Mike, what you got for me?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
As Vanessa said, she will not stop. I mean this
is normal for her. She's been doing it for such
a long time. They use fundraising off of these kinds
of things, and Marjorie Tillergreen is going to keep doing
this kind of a thing. I was a little surprised
with Congresswoman Crockett to get caught up into that fray,
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but you know, people are people and they respond and react. However,
they feel a lot of people think it would have
been better for her to take a high road on
this instead of going down to that level. But you know,
when you're attacked, you respond different ways. So we'll see
what happens with this. You know, Jasmine Crockett still has
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a lot of respect and boy, we just we'd like
to see our lawmakers have a little more decorum.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You know, for the most part, folks would like to
know that lawmakers are following the protocol and they're acting
in a decent manner, and they're working with other lawmakers
to make the best outcomes for the people that they
possibly can, and that things never get personal and things
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never get ugly the way that they have. But to
be fair, a lot of what has happened in recent
years on the right in particular, and really the result
of Trump's ascension to the White House and his continued
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command of the reigns of the Republican Party in this
country sets the standard. It changes the state of play
in politics entirely. That man came in with not a
modicum of decency or he was not beholden to tradition.
He was exceptionally rude and brash and harsh. He built
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his platform on making fun of people, other representatives disabled.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What is that name calling?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah? It still is, Yeah, exactly, you're right. And so.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
When you see the people that espouse his views and
his demeanor emanating and emulating his behaviors, it just goes
to show what he has done to change politics, at
least on that side of the country. And when you
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see a person like Marjorie Taylor Green in the chamber
behaving that way, then it starts you start to kind
of appreciate that the state of play has changed and
the old way is not working. They don't care about
what's right, they don't care about our feelings. They don't care.
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They're trying to do something. They're very much in the minority,
but they will redraw maps, they will, you know, do
all the political maneuvers that they can to maintain power
and to try to continue to shape this country in
such a way that they feel is appropriate, something that's
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more traditional, something that is more based on like yesteryear.
And of course around here we're not big fans of
yesteryear because yesteryear we were treated much worse. Right, So again,
when the state of plate changes, you know, us taking
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the high road that would have worked back when Michelle
Obama said this, you know, I heard Charlie Mane talking
about this too. You know, once upon a time when
we were still we still had an opportunity to get
our first woman president and you know, with Hillary Clinton,
and before all of these things had changed and before
we saw these things working. Because like it or not,
Trump was an effective president. He got the stuff done
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that he wanted to get done. He defunded the CDC.
I remember this happening. I've talked about it before. I
know people that work at the CDC. So I remember
when those budget cuts came from Donald Trump. And then
we had to deal with a pandemic in this country.
New Zealand was on lockdown for two weeks. We were
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on lockdown for two years because Donald Trump defunded the CDC,
the specific group that was created to deal with the pandemic.
Donald Trump deregulated all the trains. Remember all the trains
were crashing and spilling, wasteing all those towns all over
the place. That was Donald Trump. That was his presidency,
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and there was a lot of safeguards in place, and
he bulldozed through all of them. He elected all the
In terms of decency, he rushed through a Supreme Court nomination.
He didn't leave it for the next president like what
was normally how a person would do it. You know,
an outgoing president does not elect a Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It doesn't has never happen that way.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
And so the state of play has changed, and so
when I see Jasmine Crockett adopting to this new adopting
these new plays and adapting to this new state of play,
I say, you know, we don't want to stay here,
but we do like the idea of letting them know
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that we're capable of that. And maybe they don't want
it because that's that gets worse for them too. Right now,
they've been able to just kind of get things off
and they know that we're not going to do anything.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
They think that Liberals are weak.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
They think that they are strong, and unfortunately that is
not true. It just appears that way based on our politics.
But last thing, I'll say, I'm a fan of trademarking things. Historically,
as you both know, I've trademark some pretty important stuff.
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And so shout out to Jasmine Crockett for recognizing the
potential and owning the things that she's created and leaning
into it with.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
The clap Back collection. I love that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
For our final story today, perhaps the headline should read
teachers behaving badly over the past two weeks. Two stories
involving teachers demonstrating bad behavior or you know, depending on
how you feel about it, but one definitely is bad
behavior toward the end of the school year have made
the news cycle, one involving a hair braking session and
the other involving derogatory language in the classroom. Mike, share
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a brief summary on these stories with our audience, and
then Vanessa will come to you for your thoughts to
close us out.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, you know, I always told my kids while growing
up to be extra full at the end of the
school year, because it seems that's when bizarre behavior seems
to happen often.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
In the two cases you mentioned, one of them, a
black science teacher went viral on TikTok. He was showing
his female students unbraiding his hair. He was reportedly fired
for that, and on social media many say doing this
cross boundaries, and this was called inappropriate. It's probably something
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he could have done sitting on his front porch with
his sister or girl friends or whomever. I don't think
school was the proper place for that. But in the
other case, a presumably white sixth grade teacher was accused
of using the N word in class, and there were
social media pose to accusations of unequal discipline on black students,
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which is and this is not the first time something
like that has happened, especially during the pandemic when everybody
was remote. A lot of teachers were caught up in this,
but it was their true feelings, their true sense just being.
They're just just caught. And you know, we do expect
teachers to be held to the highest standards in the
classroom dealing with our kids. Even on the outside. They
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influence the children, and that is whether teachers are black
or white, they need to do the right thing.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Sure, Vanessa, I don't think the teacher should have been
fired one which one.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I'm talking about this science teacher who had his hair unbraided.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm kind of with you a little bit, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And the only reason, I mean, maybe a suspension, maybe
something in his record. But the problem with that is
that teacher. I heard him talking on social media and
he was saying how he has such a close relationship
with his students. Some of them look at him as
a big brother, some even as a father figure. And
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to get through to these kids today is so tough.
So when you have someone who's getting through, you have
to keep them around because he was influential. Now there
is a situation where I think the word decorum was
used earlier. Decorum is applicable here. You have to keep
some kind of boundary not being too personal, but you
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also have to reach the kids. So it's a very
fine line that these teachers must must walk. I have
a good friend, good girlfriend who recently retired unfortunately, but
she was an excellent teacher and she was very involved
with the student. She would bring like turkey dinners, she
would give out gifts, So you do have to have
a connection. But the you know, them touching his hair
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like that and unbraiding his hair, maybe that was going
a bit too far.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Maybe, and you know for that, well, let me let
me start here. So for the second story that you
talked about, Mike, that was from any ISD in San Antonio.
The teacher's name was Rebecca Wadland, and what was happening
is she was discussing with her students the film Hidden Figures,
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and what she said to the students was they didn't
hire inwards back then. But she's a I think it
was like some sort of math teacher or something like
that showing Hidden Figures. So again, math is kind of
the backdrop. It's not the main part of Hidden Figures.
Hidden figures is about the racism that these women endured
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to even be able to contribute to this magnificent accomplishment
in the United States's history. But that's what she was showing.
And for her to say they didn't hire inwards back then,
and she used the hard r on it, that was
what was so upsetting to the students. Now, the teacher
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was getting his hair unbraided in the classroom. A little
bit more context for our listeners. He had a hair
appointment and he hadn't had time to unbraid his hair,
so he asked for some help, like, Hey, can you
guys help me take my hair out?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I got a hair appointment, right right. Black hair.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Is something that I don't know everything about, but I
know a little bit about because I have black hair.
I've always had it. It just grows like this every
day of my life.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I kind of love it, and my family loves it.
You know, That's all that matters to me.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I know that black people we have a very special
relationship with our hair. We have a very special relationship
with each other's hair. I don't like people in my
hair unless I'm related to them and I love them,
or unless they are an old black woman. I don't
have to know you at all because they come up
to me in the store.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh baby, this is so thick. You should let me
break this for you.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And I feel loved and I don't feel violated or
anything like that, because I know that this woman is
not petting me.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
She's you know, she's family.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I don't even have to know who she is, right,
we have a very special relationship with our hair. Add
to that that, some teachers, some teachers. I'm not sure
if that's true of this teacher we're talking about now,
but some teachers live and work and go to church
and go to the grocery store in the same communities
as the kids that they teach. They're part of that community.
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So it's very easy for some teachers to feel like
a part of a student's life.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know, it takes a village that sort of thing, right.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I think that because we are in a hyper sexualized society,
that everything sexual is salacious, or everything sexual sells, or
everything sexual whatever, somehow something goes back there. I was
having a conversation with someone talking about how I sleep
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in the bed with my son, my son, and where
their brain went. They were thinking bed sexuality, and I
can't be mad at them because that's the society in
which we live, right. But the bed is where you
go to sleep. And it's me and one other person
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in this house, and he's nine years old, and we
watch TV together, and we watch his cartoons together. And
I love my son, you know what I mean. So
to associate all these weird things, it's a little strange, right,
So let us not forget that teachers are part of
our community. Teachers are more than just teachers. They're like
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the part of that village that raise the child. That
hair is a special thing for us. And while yeah,
that may not be the wisest thing based on current sensibilities,
there is there's nothing sinister in and of itself about
(31:02):
that behavior, you know what I mean. I might need
I need help with my hair all the time. I
have sisters that will help me wash it, and you
know that sort of thing. But I just don't want
us to lose part of what makes us like. Hair
is like a big part of black culture.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It just is.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And I don't want for us to become scared of
helping each other with hair, because that's bonding that Like
I've had my hair, hot, combed rated. Oh I got
to hate you and my hair braided, But I love
the experience, you know what I mean? And you know
it doesn't need to be by somebody that I love.
But after it's braided, I have some other person that
I bonded with, you know. So there's something there. I
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don't know that fired is the right thing, because I
think you mentioned it, Vanessa, that he seems like a
good man who does right by his kids and teaches
them well and they respond to them. And they lost
that person from their community because of some sensibilities that
may not necessarily apply to that specific situation, and as
a result, consequences that were maybe a bit too harsh.
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And you know, everyone has to live in the after
the aftermath of that.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Before we go, I just wanted to tell you something
that's coming over right now. Marilyn Moseby, the former prosecutor
in Baltimore, Maryland, who was facing dozens of years in prison,
was just sentenced to twelve months of house arrest, one
hundred hours of community service, and three years of supervised release.
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And I remember that's the story where she was accused
of lying on an application for a mortgage. So She
the mother of two daughters, and like I said, she
was facing some serious prison time. So the good news
she will not be behind bars, but she has been
sentenced to twelve months of house arrest and one hundred
(32:54):
hours of community service along with supervised release.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
All right, we'll leave you that one right there. As always,
i'd like to thank you both very much for your
time and your insight. Once again, today's guest a Black
Information Network news anchors Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens. This
has been a production of the Black Information Network. Today's
show is produced by Chris Thompson.
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It's been another busy news week and we like to
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Network news anchors Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens to discuss
this week's major stories.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is the Black.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Information Network Daily Podcast, and I'm your host, Ramsey Jah.
All right, you too, Welcome back to the show. Vanessa,
how have you been. I hear you you were in
Aruba doing something crazy down there.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I wish no, I've been great. The weather's sun and
shining and warm here in the New York City area.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
All right, I love it. And Mike, I know we
just spoke was that yesterday?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But how are you doing?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Good? Man, doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Good? Glad to hear glad to hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
All right, Well, let's get to the news another day.
Another lawsuit for Diddy this week on the heels of
his recent disastrous apology video. Did he now has more
legal trouble on his play? Vanessa, let's get things started
with you tell us more about the story, and then
Mike will come to you to get your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The Diddy disaster. Oogel is going the way of Harvey Weinstein, R. Kelly,
even Bill Cosby. But in his case, there is video, raw, public, horrendous.
He apologized, but how can he come back from this
daily it's someone else's popping up with a case. There
are about seven lawsuits against him. The lady says you
(01:19):
mentioned is from a model from twenty years ago, accusing
Puffy as he was known then, of drugging and sexually
assaulting her when she was looking for a mentor. We're
hearing how abusive and aggressive he was, not just with Cassie,
but others likely kept quiet with cash. He gave an apology,
(01:39):
but if pictures are worth a thousand words, that video
will cost him tens of millions of dollars in lawsuits settlements.
And lastly, Cassie did release the statement saying, in part,
she just wished people believed her when she spoke out
from the beginning. And of course, the other shoe we're
waiting to drop from that FBI investigation and raid and
(02:02):
association with what happened earlier this year. So bottom line,
Dinny is in trouble.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Mike, let's get you away in here.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, there was actually a new claim against him today.
I'm not sure and that's if that was included in
the ones you mentioned, but you know, there may be
more victims as well. We will continue to watch this one.
As for that video, just horrendous to see someone being
treated that way, kicked, thrown down. I mean, this has
(02:32):
been an issue in the black community for longer than
I know from you know, previous generations, but it's unfortunate
it's continuing now. No woman should be treated that way.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, I actually read the report of this most recent
lawsuit of the woman who is kind of hoping that
Puffy would become her mentor and give her, you know,
some additional access to connections and so forth in the
music industry, and her account of what happened. It feels
(03:06):
very disturbing to have read it. And you know, if
you like, you can, you know, check it out. It's
up on the website.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And then now of course now that because you know,
I do my best, especially when it comes to black people,
to give black people the benefit of the doubt, and
that gets a little sticky when it's black people saying
one thing happened and then black people saying another thing happened,
or a black person saying this and another black person
saying that, however, you know, you'd be hard pressed to
(03:42):
find me celebrating the loss of a big name.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's it's more just like, Okay, justice was served, that
was what was supposed to happen. But it's not like
I'm dancing on the grave of someone like that. That's
just not my way.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Even worse, when there's video.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, And on the
heels of that video, everything feels more believable, and that
benefit of the doubt that I would normally assign to
it now feels more like he probably did that, you
know what I mean. And so when you read such
a graphic account of what happened and now you feel like,
(04:19):
oh man, if that happened, that is deeply disturbing. It
kind of shines a whole new light on this person
that I've danced to his music. You know, I'm a DJ,
so I've played his songs, and you know, growing up,
I would listen to, you know, all the artists on
his roster and even his own, you know, music that
(04:39):
he put out. And now I'm you know, re examining
his time with Cameron Diaz and re examining his time
with j Loo, and I'm re examining, you know, all
these things like, well, how did this happen without us knowing?
Though I know there were rumors, but rumors are rumors.
But how did this happen for such a long time
(05:00):
without us knowing? I mean, you can go back thirty
years and I guess the same is true with R. Kelly,
the same is true with Bill Cosby, and you know
these other names that we know. But it just feels
so disturbing when you hear the account of it, like
this person was able to do this and we.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You know, so I like the way you put in, Mike.
We're going to keep.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Following it and see what develops. But it does look like, yeah,
he's going to have to deal with some things now
because there's a lot of people that can never unsee
that video.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And you know, I've heard.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Diddy's done quite a bit these past couple of weeks
and certainly since that video.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Next up news from Pennsylvania involving a family of a
sixteen year old black child who was wrongfully executed. Mike,
let's start with you this time. You are listeners to
details on this story in the Vanessa will come to
you next.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, you know, this reminds me many of what happened
to em Mattil years years ago. And other black men
have been wrongly accused of some sort of crime or
looking at or something to a white woman and there's
a rush to judgment, there's lynching. This particular case goes
back almost one hundred years. The black teenager was executed
(06:19):
by the state of Pennsylvania after being convicted of murder.
This was nineteen thirty one. His family has since followed
lawsuits seeking damages. After the conviction of Alexander McClay Williams
was vacated two years ago, a new trial was ordered.
Williams was convicted after a thirty four year old white
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woman was found slain inside her cottage by her ex husband.
Husband said he found her and then Williams was arrested
in charge with stabbing the woman dozens of times, but
there was no witnesses to the crime. The black man
was never seen at the scene of the crime. Instead,
(07:04):
prosecutors just relied on confessions that we're said to be
coerced out of the sixteen year old. So since then,
the lawsuit says, prosecutors ignored evidence, including that the victim
had followed from divorce from her husband, saying he was
(07:25):
extremely cruel. I mean, we're going into the weeds quite
a bit on this one, but you know, it sounds
like one of those true crime stories that we see now.
The husband is often the one who is responsible. But
yet they pended on this sixteen year old black teenager, Vanessa.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Let's get your thoughts here too.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, from all accounts, all evidence pointed to the husband.
There's no connection to this Williams at all. And the
thing about it is his last living sibling who was
basically the main one with this lawsuit. She's in her nineties,
so basically this is the last time anybody who even
(08:08):
knew this guy Williams and the young boy would even
see any kind of justice. He was sent to the
electric chair within weeks. Now. One thing that's interesting, he
did have a black lawyer, William Ridley, who is said
to be the first black attorney in Delaware County, Pennsylvania,
but he brought this case before an all white jury,
(08:29):
so it didn't really even matter. There was no chance
at all. So the family is we said, is suing.
There's really no dollar amount yet, but you know, they
deserve millions for what happened to that young boy.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah yeah, And this is I like this because it's
holding this country accountable for its history, and that's something
that America has gotten away with for far too long.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You know, you know what the real tragedy as well,
it's still happening today. Oh yeah, every day we're doing
stories about the exonerated exactly. So I'm at least those
people are coming out alive after thirty forty years.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And you know, the part of this that that is
a little unsettling is that, you know, how long this
has happened without consequences has led to the predicament that
we find ourselves in today. And I feel like with
more consequences, either one people will be more responsible with
(09:33):
how they move, two people will be compensated if they
are treated wrongly black people in particular, or three both.
So you know, even though this is a tragic incident,
you know, this this resolution feels like it's not nothing,
you know, it's it's actually something, especially if there ends
(09:55):
up being millions of dollars, you know, and and you know,
to just kind of fill in some gaps. I know
that they ignored a bloody handprint on the wall that
was presumed to be from the killer that wasn't investigated
at all during this trial. When they got the confession,
there was no parents present, there was no lawyers present.
(10:17):
As you mentioned, they executed him like very quickly after
the trial of an all white jury, and you know,
the lawyer that took the case did so for ten dollars,
the black lawyer you mentioned. And I feel like that
black lawyer knew what he was up against, and that's
why he didn't try to prove his innocence, but rather
(10:41):
to like ask for mercy from the court life in prison,
Please don't kill this boy, and then, you know, kick
that can down the road. We'll revisit it in five
years or try to get an appeal or a new
trial or whatever. And now I feel like that was
probably the strategy of that lawyer, and it ended up
costing this young man his life. The lady was stabbed
to death thirty four or thirty seven times with an
(11:03):
ice pick, clearly by her husband, and her husband went
free and this boy never got to grow up. And
I just imagine the pain that this family endured knowing
the whole time that this guy was innocent, that their
son was innocent, that their brother was innocent, that you know,
and you know, I remember reading how they walked him
(11:27):
to the electric chair, because that's how they took his life,
and you know the account of that, how he needed
help walking, just the amount of grief and just the
like I felt, the sadness for him. I'm feeling it now.
It's just what a horrible you know, And you mentioned
(11:49):
the amount of people that are exonerated. I know that
they feel that on some level when they get sentenced
to twenty years and thirty years the football numbers, you
know what I mean, and they're not coming home, you know,
everybody's gonna be grown in it, moved away by the
time they get out. And that feeling of Okay, I
just lost my life for something I didn't even do.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
There was no DNA testing back, none of it. None
of it, and probably very few things they could do
with fingerprints and so forth, you know, not like the
technology that they have today. But just this quick rush
to judgment to assume that you know, somebody black did
the crime. And how many people have been sent to
(12:32):
prison executed that will never know the truth. It's not
to say everybody is innocent, but I mean the ones
who did not do any wrong should not be punished.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Sure, at the Central Park five, I mean they're just
like handpicked, like you know what, will just choose you,
no rhyme or reason, just choose somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But that's That's Another great example is that they had
some people like you mentioned, they chose these people that
they're going to pin this crime I'm on, so that
the police can I don't know, appear as though they
are solving a crime to the public. I have no
idea why they would do this. And of course they
pick someone black, someone that they feel society wild not
(13:13):
miss or whatever, and they ignore the actual police work
that goes into it. So once new evidence starts coming out,
they do their best to suppress it because it doesn't
fit the narrative that they've crafted or they've already stepped
into something, and now they're trying to engineer and manufacture
a case so that that can be true, rather than
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be an objective and identifying things and piecing it together
or repiecing it together. You know, even back then there
was no police work. You mentioned the DNA stuff, a handprint,
you know, a person like me. I have enormous hands.
I could pull them a basketball. I'm not a big guy,
but I got big hands. Right, My handprint looks very
different from pretty much everyone's, you know. And it's just
(13:57):
the measurement of it. You know, there's something identify viiable there,
and it wasn't even discussed again. And it's just the
sadness of how disconnected, how divorce from reality that these
police were are and perhaps will continue to be, and
how it disproportionately negatively affects, you know, my people is
(14:19):
very disheartening. And this is why I push so passionately
and frequently to have a critical re examination of policing
in this country, because these outcomes shaped by people that
are insulated from consequences, qualified immunity, you know whatever, and
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internal police investigate the police. How is there any objectivity there?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All these things that I push back against. This story
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Black Information Network News anchors Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens
are here with us discussing this week's major stories. All right,
Next up, the feud between Texas Representative Jasmine Crockett and
Marjorie Taylor Green is still in the news this week,
especially with the announcement from Representative Crockett about her new
business venture. Vanessa, what's the latest on this story? And
then Mike, we'll get you to weigh in afterwards.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Ooh, can we say it together? Bleef blonde, bad built,
butch body body, because everyone is saying it huntry western songs.
I've heard rap songs. I even heard a gospel song
last night.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, the Clapbacks were singing it, the AI version.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It's crazy, and yes, Congresswoman Crockett is planning to make
money off of it. Trademarket put it on hats to
hoodies under the Crockett clap Back collection. That way, yeah,
that way. Marjorie Taylor Green, who is a weightlifter, She
(16:09):
then put on social media her working out to show
how proud she is of that beach blonde, bad built,
butch body. But you know, it's it's funny, but it's
sad that it has disintegrated to that in our congressional discourse.
But a lot of people are saying that, you know,
(16:33):
this finally puts MTG in her place. She is known
for going off and other people, and now she finally
has been shut down. But in a way because she's
back on social media right now kind of teasing aoc
about you know, the Bronx rally that Trump had recently.
(16:53):
So you know, she she'll never stop.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, Mike, what you got for me?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
As Vanessa said, she will not stop. I mean this
is normal for her. She's been doing it for such
a long time. They use fundraising off of these kinds
of things, and Marjorie Tillergreen is going to keep doing
this kind of a thing. I was a little surprised
with Congresswoman Crockett to get caught up into that fray,
(17:22):
but you know, people are people and they respond and react. However,
they feel a lot of people think it would have
been better for her to take a high road on
this instead of going down to that level. But you know,
when you're attacked, you respond different ways. So we'll see
what happens with this. You know, Jasmine Crockett still has
(17:43):
a lot of respect and boy, we just we'd like
to see our lawmakers have a little more decorum.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You know, for the most part, folks would like to
know that lawmakers are following the protocol and they're acting
in a decent manner, and they're working with other lawmakers
to make the best outcomes for the people that they
possibly can, and that things never get personal and things
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never get ugly the way that they have. But to
be fair, a lot of what has happened in recent
years on the right in particular, and really the result
of Trump's ascension to the White House and his continued
(18:36):
command of the reigns of the Republican Party in this
country sets the standard. It changes the state of play
in politics entirely. That man came in with not a
modicum of decency or he was not beholden to tradition.
He was exceptionally rude and brash and harsh. He built
(19:02):
his platform on making fun of people, other representatives disabled.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What is that name calling?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah? It still is, Yeah, exactly, you're right. And so.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
When you see the people that espouse his views and
his demeanor emanating and emulating his behaviors, it just goes
to show what he has done to change politics, at
least on that side of the country. And when you
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see a person like Marjorie Taylor Green in the chamber
behaving that way, then it starts you start to kind
of appreciate that the state of play has changed and
the old way is not working. They don't care about
what's right, they don't care about our feelings. They don't care.
(19:58):
They're trying to do something. They're very much in the minority,
but they will redraw maps, they will, you know, do
all the political maneuvers that they can to maintain power
and to try to continue to shape this country in
such a way that they feel is appropriate, something that's
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more traditional, something that is more based on like yesteryear.
And of course around here we're not big fans of
yesteryear because yesteryear we were treated much worse. Right, So again,
when the state of plate changes, you know, us taking
(20:42):
the high road that would have worked back when Michelle
Obama said this, you know, I heard Charlie Mane talking
about this too. You know, once upon a time when
we were still we still had an opportunity to get
our first woman president and you know, with Hillary Clinton,
and before all of these things had changed and before
we saw these things working. Because like it or not,
Trump was an effective president. He got the stuff done
(21:05):
that he wanted to get done. He defunded the CDC.
I remember this happening. I've talked about it before. I
know people that work at the CDC. So I remember
when those budget cuts came from Donald Trump. And then
we had to deal with a pandemic in this country.
New Zealand was on lockdown for two weeks. We were
(21:25):
on lockdown for two years because Donald Trump defunded the CDC,
the specific group that was created to deal with the pandemic.
Donald Trump deregulated all the trains. Remember all the trains
were crashing and spilling, wasteing all those towns all over
the place. That was Donald Trump. That was his presidency,
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and there was a lot of safeguards in place, and
he bulldozed through all of them. He elected all the
In terms of decency, he rushed through a Supreme Court nomination.
He didn't leave it for the next president like what
was normally how a person would do it. You know,
an outgoing president does not elect a Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It doesn't has never happen that way.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
And so the state of play has changed, and so
when I see Jasmine Crockett adopting to this new adopting
these new plays and adapting to this new state of play,
I say, you know, we don't want to stay here,
but we do like the idea of letting them know
(22:28):
that we're capable of that. And maybe they don't want
it because that's that gets worse for them too. Right now,
they've been able to just kind of get things off
and they know that we're not going to do anything.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
They think that Liberals are weak.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
They think that they are strong, and unfortunately that is
not true. It just appears that way based on our politics.
But last thing, I'll say, I'm a fan of trademarking things. Historically,
as you both know, I've trademark some pretty important stuff.
(23:04):
And so shout out to Jasmine Crockett for recognizing the
potential and owning the things that she's created and leaning
into it with.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
The clap Back collection. I love that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
For our final story today, perhaps the headline should read
teachers behaving badly over the past two weeks. Two stories
involving teachers demonstrating bad behavior or you know, depending on
how you feel about it, but one definitely is bad
behavior toward the end of the school year have made
the news cycle, one involving a hair braking session and
the other involving derogatory language in the classroom. Mike, share
(23:39):
a brief summary on these stories with our audience, and
then Vanessa will come to you for your thoughts to
close us out.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, you know, I always told my kids while growing
up to be extra full at the end of the
school year, because it seems that's when bizarre behavior seems
to happen often.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
In the two cases you mentioned, one of them, a
black science teacher went viral on TikTok. He was showing
his female students unbraiding his hair. He was reportedly fired
for that, and on social media many say doing this
cross boundaries, and this was called inappropriate. It's probably something
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he could have done sitting on his front porch with
his sister or girl friends or whomever. I don't think
school was the proper place for that. But in the
other case, a presumably white sixth grade teacher was accused
of using the N word in class, and there were
social media pose to accusations of unequal discipline on black students,
(24:41):
which is and this is not the first time something
like that has happened, especially during the pandemic when everybody
was remote. A lot of teachers were caught up in this,
but it was their true feelings, their true sense just being.
They're just just caught. And you know, we do expect
teachers to be held to the highest standards in the
classroom dealing with our kids. Even on the outside. They
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influence the children, and that is whether teachers are black
or white, they need to do the right thing.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Sure, Vanessa, I don't think the teacher should have been
fired one which one.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I'm talking about this science teacher who had his hair unbraided.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm kind of with you a little bit, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And the only reason, I mean, maybe a suspension, maybe
something in his record. But the problem with that is
that teacher. I heard him talking on social media and
he was saying how he has such a close relationship
with his students. Some of them look at him as
a big brother, some even as a father figure. And
(25:44):
to get through to these kids today is so tough.
So when you have someone who's getting through, you have
to keep them around because he was influential. Now there
is a situation where I think the word decorum was
used earlier. Decorum is applicable here. You have to keep
some kind of boundary not being too personal, but you
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also have to reach the kids. So it's a very
fine line that these teachers must must walk. I have
a good friend, good girlfriend who recently retired unfortunately, but
she was an excellent teacher and she was very involved
with the student. She would bring like turkey dinners, she
would give out gifts, So you do have to have
a connection. But the you know, them touching his hair
(26:33):
like that and unbraiding his hair, maybe that was going
a bit too far.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Maybe, and you know for that, well, let me let
me start here. So for the second story that you
talked about, Mike, that was from any ISD in San Antonio.
The teacher's name was Rebecca Wadland, and what was happening
is she was discussing with her students the film Hidden Figures,
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and what she said to the students was they didn't
hire inwards back then. But she's a I think it
was like some sort of math teacher or something like
that showing Hidden Figures. So again, math is kind of
the backdrop. It's not the main part of Hidden Figures.
Hidden figures is about the racism that these women endured
(27:21):
to even be able to contribute to this magnificent accomplishment
in the United States's history. But that's what she was showing.
And for her to say they didn't hire inwards back then,
and she used the hard r on it, that was
what was so upsetting to the students. Now, the teacher
(27:44):
was getting his hair unbraided in the classroom. A little
bit more context for our listeners. He had a hair
appointment and he hadn't had time to unbraid his hair,
so he asked for some help, like, Hey, can you
guys help me take my hair out?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I got a hair appointment, right right. Black hair.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Is something that I don't know everything about, but I
know a little bit about because I have black hair.
I've always had it. It just grows like this every
day of my life.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I kind of love it, and my family loves it.
You know, That's all that matters to me.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I know that black people we have a very special
relationship with our hair. We have a very special relationship
with each other's hair. I don't like people in my
hair unless I'm related to them and I love them,
or unless they are an old black woman. I don't
have to know you at all because they come up
to me in the store.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh baby, this is so thick. You should let me
break this for you.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And I feel loved and I don't feel violated or
anything like that, because I know that this woman is
not petting me.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
She's you know, she's family.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I don't even have to know who she is, right,
we have a very special relationship with our hair. Add
to that that, some teachers, some teachers. I'm not sure
if that's true of this teacher we're talking about now,
but some teachers live and work and go to church
and go to the grocery store in the same communities
as the kids that they teach. They're part of that community.
(29:22):
So it's very easy for some teachers to feel like
a part of a student's life.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know, it takes a village that sort of thing, right.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I think that because we are in a hyper sexualized society,
that everything sexual is salacious, or everything sexual sells, or
everything sexual whatever, somehow something goes back there. I was
having a conversation with someone talking about how I sleep
(29:53):
in the bed with my son, my son, and where
their brain went. They were thinking bed sexuality, and I
can't be mad at them because that's the society in
which we live, right. But the bed is where you
go to sleep. And it's me and one other person
(30:14):
in this house, and he's nine years old, and we
watch TV together, and we watch his cartoons together. And
I love my son, you know what I mean. So
to associate all these weird things, it's a little strange, right,
So let us not forget that teachers are part of
our community. Teachers are more than just teachers. They're like
(30:40):
the part of that village that raise the child. That
hair is a special thing for us. And while yeah,
that may not be the wisest thing based on current sensibilities,
there is there's nothing sinister in and of itself about
(31:02):
that behavior, you know what I mean. I might need
I need help with my hair all the time. I
have sisters that will help me wash it, and you
know that sort of thing. But I just don't want
us to lose part of what makes us like. Hair
is like a big part of black culture.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It just is.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And I don't want for us to become scared of
helping each other with hair, because that's bonding that Like
I've had my hair, hot, combed rated. Oh I got
to hate you and my hair braided, But I love
the experience, you know what I mean? And you know
it doesn't need to be by somebody that I love.
But after it's braided, I have some other person that
I bonded with, you know. So there's something there. I
(31:41):
don't know that fired is the right thing, because I
think you mentioned it, Vanessa, that he seems like a
good man who does right by his kids and teaches
them well and they respond to them. And they lost
that person from their community because of some sensibilities that
may not necessarily apply to that specific situation, and as
a result, consequences that were maybe a bit too harsh.
(32:04):
And you know, everyone has to live in the after
the aftermath of that.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Before we go, I just wanted to tell you something
that's coming over right now. Marilyn Moseby, the former prosecutor
in Baltimore, Maryland, who was facing dozens of years in prison,
was just sentenced to twelve months of house arrest, one
hundred hours of community service, and three years of supervised release.
(32:33):
And I remember that's the story where she was accused
of lying on an application for a mortgage. So She
the mother of two daughters, and like I said, she
was facing some serious prison time. So the good news
she will not be behind bars, but she has been
sentenced to twelve months of house arrest and one hundred
(32:54):
hours of community service along with supervised release.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
All right, we'll leave you that one right there. As always,
i'd like to thank you both very much for your
time and your insight. Once again, today's guest a Black
Information Network news anchors Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens. This
has been a production of the Black Information Network. Today's
show is produced by Chris Thompson.
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Speaker 1 (33:17):
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I'll be hosting another episode of Civic Cipher this weekend
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podcast info, check Civiccipher dot com and join us Monday
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(33:38):
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