November 18, 2024 • 34 mins
News Anchor Tyrik Wynn joins Host Ramses Ja and cohost Q Ward on today's podcast to review the major headline stories from this past weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here at the Black Information Network, we know how important
it is for you to start your week off energized.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Engaged, and enlightened.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
There are always major stories that break over the weekend,
and we feel you should know about the ones we
are talking about today, So stay tuned for our weekend
recap featuring Black Information Network news anchor Tyreek Win. This
is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast. I'm your host
ramses Jah.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And I'm your host Q Ward. All right, Tyreek, welcome
back to the show.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Man. Looks like you are relaxed, smiling, having a good
day so far. Man, talk to me when what you've
been up to. Yeah, man, it's been great.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Ready for the Thanksgiving holiday, you know that, you know,
Thanksgiving us coming up, holiday season, Christmas is coming up
my favorite time of year personally, so I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But man, it has been great.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Just got finished covering this election, which was definitely a
wild ride, had some amazing interview opportunities. Got to ride
in the motor k with Vice President Harris, which okay,
it so it was.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Great, Okay, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, I know Q and I have been looking forward
to talking with you about I'm sure the election is
going to make its way into some of our conversation today,
so we won't keep the people waiting. First up from
the Black Information Network. On Friday, November fifteenth, Malcolm X's
daughters and a state filed a one hundred million dollar
lawsuit in Manhattan federal alleging that law enforcement officials were
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aware of and involved in the assassination plot. Per The
Associated Press, attorney Ben Crumb said he hoped federal and
city officials would read the lawsuit and quote, learn all
the dastardly deeds that were done by their predecessors, and
try to write these historic wrongs unquote. Speculation and questions
have surrounded Malcolm X's death for decades. The thirty nine
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year old civil rights icon was killed while he was
speaking to a crowd of hundreds at Manhattan's Audubon Ballroom
on February twenty first, nineteen sixty five. Three men were
convicted of crimes and connection to the killing, but two
were exonerated in twenty twenty one after investigators determined they
were tried on shaky evidence and withheld information. The lawsuit
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accuses the prosecution team of suppressing the government's role in
the assassination. According to the suit, law enforcement officials had
a quote corrupt, unlawful, and unconstitutional unquote relationship with ruthless
killers that went unchecked for many years and was actively concealed, condoned, predicted,
and facilitated by government agents. The suit further alleges that
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NYPD and federal law enforcement agencies arrested Malcolm X's security
detailed days before the assassination and intentionally removed officers from
excuse me inside the ballroom where.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
He was killed.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Federal agencies had also had personnel in the ballroom who
failed to protect him, According to the suit, So for
a lot of people, you know, this might be like
a bombshell revelation. But for a lot of us, I know,
at least in the circles I've been traveling in, folks
are like, yeah, it's about time. We kind of knew this.
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So Tarrek, obviously you're here to give us your thoughts.
So let's go to you first.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
In the Q. Obviously we need you to share what
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, now that I was going to say the
same thing. It's pretty much as one of those things
where okay, like it's about time something is finally happening
here within this situation. And then when it comes to
the government and these police departments, from what I've seen
since I've been a lot, I don't put nothing past them, right,
you know, so I definitely, I definitely agree with this.
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Looks like, you know, Ben Crump is having to say
so in this as well, which is great. You know,
he's been involved with a lot of high profile cases
as well. But yeah, it's it's about time we're seeing
something within this assassination, even though it's been a lot
of years now, but at least we're seeing something now
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better late than ever.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So yeah, yeah, cool.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Similar, I think the expectation of the prosecutor that these
people will see the wrong doings of their predecessors against
black people, I think is a lot to wish for
our country. Our government, our federal agencies have not done
a good job of acknowledging the wrong doings of their
predecessors when it comes to the mistreatment of black people.
It's something like they think that it's personal against them.
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So it's either they're going to defend themselves because they
think you're saying they're wrong, or it's the opposite. Hey,
we didn't have anything to do with that. So nothing
we can do for you, so curious to see how
it plays out though.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, yeah, this is something that you know a lot
of times, you know, people imply or otherwise suggested black
people are we have a victim mentality, or that we
are overly paranoid, or you know, we see things in
the shadows that may not be there. We're given to
conspiracy theories all that sort of stuff, and the basis
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of that is that a lot of times when things
happen in mysterious circumstances, you know, this this country has
taught us that those quote unquote mysterious circumstances to you know,
other communities beyond our own, to us is very very
it makes it makes very plain sense to us. People
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were corrupt and they tried to cover it up, or
something crazy happened that shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And this is another example.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
This is obviously a higher profile example, but you know,
for many of us, we have a cousin that got
locked up for something that you know, just being black
and nearby, or something happened where you know, just all
kinds of crazy stuff. Right, So what this happened with
with Malcolm X, you know, with what happened with Brett Hampton,
with what happened with a lot of people in the sixties.
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You know, you can go back and look, you know,
when we see what came out later in terms of
you know, what what the investigations into doctor King's personal
life held and how that was held over is he
and you see that these government agencies were doing their
best to suppress these movements, these pro black movements. When
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when Malcolm X was killed, I think that a lot
of people in the black community were like, yep, they
got them, and other people were like, whoa, I don't
know what happened, Oh my god, how could that happen?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, And so.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You know that that quote unquote paranoia, that quote unquote
victim mentality is well founded, and unfortunately sometimes it takes
a long time for the evidence to come out, at
least enough evidence to mount a case against you know, uh,
an agency like this one. And whether or not the
ruling falls on our side, I think that whether what
it does is it it affirms and validates the fact
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that we're not seeing shadows in the dark, we're seeing
what's actually happening, and we may not get justice insofar
as we're concerned, but we are not. We can now
tell ourselves that we're not crazy. And this is something
that I believe it's part and parcel to our story
in this country. Moving on this from the Black Information Network,
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white women are getting called out for their quote performative
use of blue bracelets to show their opposition to President
elect Donald Trump. The bluelet movement reportedly stemmed from an
idea by Minnesota mom identified as Libby on social media,
who wanted to separate herself from women who voted for Trump.
Exit polls showed that fifty three percent of white women
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voted for Trump, while ninety one percent of Black women
backed Harris. After Libby's video went viral, white women started
to wear blue bracelets to signal their disdain for Trump.
Some women made their own blue bracelets, while others were
encouraged to buy them from black owned jewelry companies. The
viral trend soon came under fire as performative critics say
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the trend allows white women to express their condemnation of
Trump and his policies without actually having to do the
work and examine their own communities.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Quote. We didn't need safety pins. Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
This is according to doctor Klatta Berry, an engineer and
all author. Her social media post, she goes on to say, quote,
we didn't need pink hats, we didn't need blue bracelets.
We didn't need marches, we didn't need zooms. We needed
you to get Granny Auntie's sister daughter cousin, Mama, me Ma,
Mama to the dog one voting booth unquote.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Other critics say.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
That the blue bracelet movement pointed out how it would
likely only last as a temporary trend and not represent
a lasting symbol of change.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So Tyreek, give us your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
On this blue bracelet movement and you know how it
hits you or how how you're finding it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, So I was. I was looking at the story
and I don't know, I'm kind of like whatever that
that's kind of how I feel about I don't really,
it's not to me. It's not really a moving, a
moving type protest or I guess if they're calling it
a protest or whatever against Trump. I mean, and I
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agree with the quote, like if you were actually going
to do something, then it would have You should have
done something during the voting season, right, and you should
have got the people to the polls, not saying that
they didn't, but it seems like that that's what they
should have done, according to that quote. So the blue
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bracelet thing out of I think it's kind of pointless.
I mean, he's going to be elected, he won the election,
he's going to be elected, He's going in office. What
are the brew blasi is going to do nothing? So
that's pretty much how I feel about it. So I
think it's kind of pointless, besides the fact that you know,
you're wearing it just to say you don't support Trump.
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But I mean, whatever, it's not it's not moving it's
not moving anything forward for me.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's hard in the wake
of this election to feel almost anything positive, especially with
regards to what would be considered a performative gesture like this.
But I cautioned us to say, right, we can't have
it both ways. A half a decade ago, when the
other guy was president, the first time I heard people
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saying I'm glad that these racist people are coming out
of the closet and being racist with their whole chest.
Even though that was a very very dangerous truth, people
seemed to appreciate the idea that people were being forthright
with their feelings. Some of these women wearing these blue
bracelets are sorry. Some of these women wearing these blue
bracelets are upset. And just like with June teenth, when
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people show up clumsy and they don't do it perfect,
we criticize them. I say the same here that they
can't undo the vote. But not every white woman voted
for Donald Trump. And if some of them want to say, hey,
you have an ally here still in this world that
just got way more dangerous for you and way more scary,
and all you see every day is red maga hats,
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maybe this blue bracelet will say to a person that's
walking down the street scared, upset, angry, tensed, OK, there's
somebody here that doesn't hate me. There's somebody here who's
not actively working against me. If all they can do
right now is the blue bracelet, it's not them doing
nothing right, so don't I'm not jumping up and down
like yay go blue bracelet, But I'm also not condemning
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them for trying to say something showing some sign of
solidarity because.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It is feeling real bleak right now. Yeah, yeah, I
love that. I think that that is That's well.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I would expect nothing less, because that's kind of the
space that we work in, in the allyship space, and
so we tried our best to kind of understand that
people aren't born knowing what tactics are best deployed in
support of marginalized communities, and certainly not white folks who
have just a different experienced day to day. You know, allyship,
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while we're here, is complicated. It can be complicated, and
I learned that during this election. I don't think that
this was the only deciding factor, but I think that
there was a lot of factors that kept a lot
of people from voting. As you both know, voter turnout
was very low, and at least, well, how about this,
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a significant number of people who chose to withhold their vote.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
For the top of the ticket.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Those people were concerned about their allyship insofar as Palestine
was concerned.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I know that's why I said, at least some folks
you know what I mean. And this is why I'm
trying to explain how allyship can be complicated, because you know,
we actually have a mutual friend who talked about this,
who's like, you know, there's no way there's no way
that I could vote for Kamala Harris, whose administration is
actively committing genocide. I can't do that, and I obviously
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I can't vote for Donald Trump, and they get stuck
behind that one thing and their capacity to.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
What is the word I'm looking for? I think critically
beyond that that'll work.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, and understand that the implications go beyond just that
single issue is limited, whereas ours in this newsroom, yours, Tyrek, yours,
Qan mind, we understand that there are many issues that
have implications in and of themselves, and so the ripple
effects plural go much further beyond just what's going on
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in Palestine or any single issue, you know, not black issues,
not white issues, not Hispanic issues, not immigration, not economic
restorative justice, not environmental racism, not policing, nothing. There's so
many things that themselves have other issues. And because we're
in that space, we understand that, hey, look, things can
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get worse for all of us, or you know, some
things get better for some people, other things get worse
for other people. With this issue, because people were standing
on top of their allyship, I think, and it was
kind of the most recent, I think, hot button issue
for a lot of folks where they actually were outside protesting,
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where they actually were listening to stories and trying to
dive deep and offer as much support as they could.
A lot of people, again not the deciding factor, I
don't imagine, but a lot of people were like, listen,
I can't do that. And so, you know, you learn
how people are trying to support this group at what
they feel is that the cost of this other group,
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they end up not doing anything. And for at least
a lot of people that I've talked to since the election,
I've seen that be the case for them. And so
when we're talking about, you know, people wearing bracelets and
people trying their best to do what it is that
they do, I'm just learning that it's a lot more
complicated for some people than I anticipated. And even if
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it's just a small amount of people in this past
election that wouldn't have affected the outcome, I'm starting to
see for myself that, you know, it's not as simple
as what is right and wrong. For some people, it's like, well,
everything is wrong and nothing is right, and here's what
I have is a blue but blue bracelet. I don't
know why that's such a tongue twister for me. And
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so to your point, Q, I recognize that you know,
some people they can't do nothing, but there's nothing they
can do. So you know, whenever we end up in
that position, my advice is always do what you can.
And you know, at present, it seems like this blue
blue bracelet thing is a trend. So good luck and
god speed to all the folks wearing the blue bracelets.
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This is your weekend recap with today's guest, Black Information
Network news anchor Tyreek Win.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
All Right, this from The Daily Beast.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
A one time mayor of Amityville, Long Island, faces a
laundry list of allegations, including pressuring employees into consuming drugs
and racism. According to a lawsuit, Republican Peter Imbert, who
served as the town's mayor for sixteen years, is the
head of RCI Industries and insurance firm. His conduct while
running the company is the basis for the suit, reported
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The New York Post. According to maintenance worker Ralph Guarino's complaint, Imbert,
a registered Republican, also kept a secret room stocked with
the legal weaponry, including AK forty sevens and AR fifteen's.
The former mayor also allegedly told Guarino, quote whites should
stay with whites and blacks should stay with blacks unquote.
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Quote for the for the last ten years, I've constantly
been on edge around him, just ready for him to
snap unquote, Garrino told the Post. He goes on to say,
for two years, every day I did anything he wanted.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I fear the guy.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
He once told me he has quote no one to
answer to but God unquote. So I know you've read
a little bit more about this story, Tyreek. Obviously there's
you know, in the in the article that we were
given as as research, there's a lot of crazy stuff
that this mayor was up to. But obviously the racism
part I think is particularly potent at this moment, just
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because again a person in a position of power or
formerly in a position of power harboring these feelings. So
you know, talk us through, you know how this hit you,
and you know, just give us your thoughts and then
we'll come to you. Q.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, yeah, very racist situation. But I will tell you
there was one thing that struck me in particular. Right, So,
I know he's a mayor and then he's also over
this RCI company as well, But What was pretty striking,
I would say, was the last.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Sentence that was in the article.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
It says both him and his mother still work for
the company, right, Yeah, So you know, I was just
trying to figure out, well, if this is the case,
and I would say, if this is the case, I
guess why are you still there? You know, I don't
really think that you should as a person being part
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of that. I don't really think you should accept that
if that is the case.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So I did see that, So I thought that was so.
I thought that was interesting as far as the whole situation,
the type of task that he had to.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Do was different, different, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And then obviously the whole where the racism really came
in was when he said white should stay with whites
and blacks to stay with blacks. Yeah, basically we shouldn't
be I guess it means we shouldn't be interacting. If
I had to interpret my meaning or perception of it
would be but yes, very very racist situation. So I
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guess we'll see what happens with it.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
I think your point about him still working there is
an important thing to point out. I think what this
election just showed us is that people's financial situation and
the financial pressure, the fiscal pressure that people may be under,
can lead them to make some very anti self decisions. Right,
the price of eggs and gas is what a lot
of people are saying in these post election interviews is
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why they decided to vote for the racist, adjudicated rapists, misogynists, sexist,
ignorant evil.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'll stop because I'll do this for hours.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I have.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I got a list led to people voting for someone
like him. Like Rama said in the previous story, this
single issue thing that people get caught up on. And
if this guy and his mother worked there, he probably
feels like if he spoke out that him and his
mother would both lose their jobs and then be in
a worst off situation financially. They're willing to tolerate the
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racism of their boss so that they can pay their rent.
And I know that's a very hard choice to have
to make. But not everyone has the autonomy to just
get up and walk away from a job that they
have when their perception is I can't get a job
anywhere else, Everything costs more, the economy is in the tank.
Like people fall b them to their own perception, whether
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it be true or not, you know. So then someone
like our former and now newly elected president comes along
and makes people like his boss, this former mayor and
you know, executive at this company, feel even more embolded
in their racist positions. They feel like they can say
things like this out loud because clearly, as this guy said,
he has no one to answer to.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But god, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
One of the crazy things to your point, Q, is
that you know, uh, and I've talked about it on
this show, so you know, our listeners may have heard
this from me before. But you know, imagine back in
the day, this former mayor harboring these racist sentiments. You know,
black should stay with blacks, white should stay with whites,
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you know, and there's a whole psychology behind that. It's
fear based, and it's based in ignorance, and you know
a number of things. But imagine he felt that way
back in the day. With the election of Donald Trump, again,
people like that that harbor those sentiments but may not
act on them, may not be as out loud with them,
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may not say it with their whole chest. Now they
feel like they got their guy back in office, and
the reason that he got there is because of his
sentiments he just tells it like it is, and on
and on and on. He does what he wants, blah
blah blah, there's no consequences. So now they feel like
they exist in his image and they walk in his shadow,
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and they feel supported and emboldened to your point, Q
by his re election. So those people can now turn
up the dial on people who have historically.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Been subjugated and marginalized in this country. And we've seen that.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
We've seen the rise in hate speech online against black people,
against women, so forth, and so on. We've seen an
increase in incidents around the country on college campuses, on
high school campuses, anti anti women incidents. And it was
a direct result that the spike happened the day after
Donald Trump was elected.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And that is the Trump effect.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
The Trump effect emboldens people harbor a seed of racism,
a seed, just a tiny emoticum of anti black rhetoric
and behavior and so forth, and then you know, Donald,
the election of Donald Trump just waters that seed and
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shines sunlight on it for the next four years.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And so even if you.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Don't agree with or even if you agree with all
of Donald Trump's policies and you think he's the best
person for the job, and whatever whatever it is that
you think, you're still having to ignore the Donald Trump effect.
And for those of us who didn't like Donald Trump,
even if we agreed with all of his policies, we
would have to be concerned with that Donald Trump effect
because that actually does affect our day to day lives,
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which admittedly there's not a lot of us, but there's
not enough mental gymnastics that I could do or the
people that voted like me could do to make that
part make sense.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Add to it all the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Things that you mentioned, Q, that he's an adjudicated piston,
he's all these other things that just he was not
a person that's bit for office. And yet and still
because so many people set the election out here, we
are so moving on this from CNN, the US Justice
Department has launched the civil rights investigation of Illinois's Sangamon
County Sheriff's office, four months after a deputy fatally shot
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Sonja Massey while responding to her call about a possible
prowler outside.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
The thirty six year old black woman's home.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
The July sixth encounter between Massy and two County sheriff's
deputies came who came to her home near Springfield, ended
with Deputy Sean Grayson, who was white, shooting her following
a dispute involving a pot of hot water in her kitchen.
Body camera footage shows Grayson was fired and charged with
murder and other offenses, and a letter Thursday to county officials,
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the Justice Department said the shooting quote raised his serious
concerns about scso's interactions with black people and people with
behavioral health disabilities unquote. The copy of the letter was
obtained by CNN five Eliot wics the shooting also raises
concerns about the scso's policies, practices, procedures, and training regarding
community policing, bias, free policing, response to behavioral health crises,
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use of force, de escalation, and other matters, the DJ
said quote. Additionally, the incident and prior nine to one
one calls involving Ms Massey in the days before her
death indicate possible issues with the emergency response and dispatch system,
according to the DOJ, which said it's also reviewing employment practices,
allegations of a lack of racial diversity, and body worn
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camera compliance. The Justice Department will investigate sorry whether these
matters amount to race and disability discrimination prohibited by federal
law according to the letter. So this is just a
little bit of movement on Sonya Massey's story, which was
well covered by the Black Information Network Tyreek.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Let's get your thoughts here. So I would.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Actually like to know what this share of training like,
what SHAFF training looks like, because I know they were
talking about, you know, they need to investigate the way
that I guess the training is going and the practices
and procedures and things in that nature. So I definitely
agree that something needs to be done about the way
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the share of and police are being trained. Obviously there's
there's something missing or there's something not happening, and of
course we have various bad apples that are police officers
and sheriffs and stuff, and and unfortunately that is the case.
But there is something that is happening within this training
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that the that they have to go through where some
something is not clicking. There, there's something that's this is
not We're constantly always having issues with police and sheriffs
and all and all of this stuff. So there needs
to be something to take place. There needs to be
something to happen. But I will say the the training
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does it does raise a concern absolutely, so I definitely
agree with that. But yeah, it's good that they're doing
the civil rights investigation and so we'll see what comes
out of this investigation.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah, I mean, we spoke earlier about performative gestures, right.
The Department of Justice investigated the Phoenix Police Department and
found that there were a lot of not just bad
apples with bad practices violations. And then after that investigation,
they jumped out the car and attacked a man for
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being close to them black man, a black man who
was deaf, who was not only deaf, but they responded
to a person who just committed a crime just pointing
to the next black person he saw. The police were
called for the men that they encountered, the men that
they encountered, who was white, pointed to a black man
across the street, and instead of doing anything to the
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white men who who had just committed a crime, that
got in their car, drove across the street and beat
up a black man. After a Department of Justice investigation,
So our police agencies have always done and continued to
do what they were created for. Okay, a long time ago,
a group of people came to this continent, stole all
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the land, and then created someone to protect them from
having that land and property stolen back. They then brought
people here from another continent, turned them into slaves, and
hired more people to make sure that those slaves remained
slaves into perpetuity. That's what our policing agencies were designed
for at their inception. So when people said years ago
to defund the police, and everybody got afraid and oh
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my god, we're not going to have law enforcement anymore.
And that's the worst thing that could possibly happen. Even
black people spoke up against defund the police, which defund
the police was just a bad slogan. Law enforcement in
this country needed long ago to be reimagined and recreated, right,
because it's not a lot when it says to serve
and protect on the side of their vehicles, it's just
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those people, it's just who they're designed to serve and protect.
That's not indicated. So there's just some context missing from
that statement. And again I say we should have because
I believe that we are not passed the part where
anything can be done. Our newly elected president has made
it very clear that he intends to make things like
this easier for police officers to get away with. He
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wants to give them blank immunity. He wants to kind
of double down on this lack of accountability that they're
already experienced. That the reason why I said performative gestures,
because yeah, even if they come and find that these
officers violated every possible thing that's in place, its officers
can be reassigned, rehired, put on paid leave. There's no
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accountability almost ever, so there's no reason for them to
change anything because those who run these organizations, they have
something that they want to accomplish, and it just continue
to put their boot on the next of people that
they can can. And unfortunately, our newly elected president tends
to make that an even more severe curve downward.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And the worst part about it is that some people
can appeal up to the Supreme Court. And we know
what happens with the Supreme Court now, especially with Donald
Trump's reelection, that that Supreme Court is the ace card,
the master stroke for the rest of our lives at least,
and so quote all right, I'm going to share a
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bonus story with you before we go. This from WUSA
nine is out of Waldorf, Maryland. A Charles County family
speaking out Saturday after their seven year old son ended
up in the hospital after an incident at his elementary school.
The boy's mom posted about her son's experience online, and
it has since gone viral, with over two hundred and
fifteen thousand likes on Instagram as of Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
My child, who is the second grader, was hung in
the boys bathroom by a fourth grader. I received the
most traumatizing phone call from the school stating that my
child was being rushed to Children's hospital in I'm feeling
anger and seeing read but my son is here about
the grace of God and I will forever be thankful.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Charles County Public Schools released a statement saying, dear parents, guardians,
and staff, I want to update you on a situation
that occurred today at See Paul Barnhardt's elementary school. This afternoon,
two of our students were reportedly horse playing in a
school bathroom when one student's jacket got caught on a
stall door hook. The student was not able to free themselves,
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and the other student involved was also not able to
help them. The student left the bathroom to seek help
from staff and reported the incident to administrators. Administrators responded
and were able to assist, but staff called nine one
one for additional precautionary medical support. His parents said they're
sharing their side of the story and hopes of preventing
this from happening to anyone else.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
My son did tell me that when they were in
the bathroom, he said, the little boy told him, quote,
I'm going to show you how I did people back
in the day unquote. That's why I feel like it's bullying,
his mother said. His mother goes on to say, it's
not telling how many other are Sorry, it's no telling
how many other kids this has happened to unquote. So
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just your final brief thoughts, Tybreek and then UQ and
then we'll wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, so very very sad situation here. It is good
that the child is alive. I will say, I think
the school statement is so byes. I don't I don't
really like the way that they put it, saying it
looks just to go back, it looks like they said
that it was Jackie got caught on this door hook
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it that that's kind of just downplaying the actual situation
and what actually took place in the bathroom. And as
a as a person who did go to school, I
have there are incidents that do happen in the bathroom.
I haven't seen, of course, I haven't seen anything this fortunate,
but there are fights, there are all all kinds of things, right,
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and so I don't like how the school system just
tried to downplay what took place. And then with the
son talking about what the other child said to him,
you can't have that quote and say that it got caught,
you know. It's so obviously he had some intentions to
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do something to this child, and which he did that incident,
and he hung the child in the bathroom, So for
the school to say that it just got caught is
pretty absurd.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, As a parent of a student who has been
a victim to violence and hate speech at school, this story,
as you guys can imagine, stuck out to me. And
just like you said, Tyreik, the two kids were horse
playing and the jacket got caught on a hook. It's
such a ridiculous way to try to explain this story,
especially once you read the quote that I'm to show
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you how we did it back in the day. It's
just a failure of our children by those who are
in positions of authority, who are who we expect to
protect them. And every day we send our children to
school hoping that the adults in the room will make
sure that they're doing okay. And I don't know, stories
like this make me have less faith and I cannot
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stop myself from going back to this election, you know,
getting rid of the Department of Education and getting rid
of places like this for children who are in special
situations or who have special needs, things are going to
get more difficult for us before they get easier, and
we might have to deal with this for a very
long time.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
It's extremely discouraging. Man.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, well, unfortunately, we're going to have to leave it
right there. But of course, if there are any new developments,
will be here to report on them. In the meantime,
I'd like to thank you very much for your time
and your insight. Once again, today's guest is Black Information
Network news anchor Tyreek Went. This has been a production
of the Black Information Network. Today's show is produced.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Engaged, and enlightened.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
There are always major stories that break over the weekend,
and we feel you should know about the ones we
are talking about today, So stay tuned for our weekend
recap featuring Black Information Network news anchor Tyreek Win. This
is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast. I'm your host
ramses Jah.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And I'm your host Q Ward. All right, Tyreek, welcome
back to the show.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Man. Looks like you are relaxed, smiling, having a good
day so far. Man, talk to me when what you've
been up to. Yeah, man, it's been great.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Ready for the Thanksgiving holiday, you know that, you know,
Thanksgiving us coming up, holiday season, Christmas is coming up
my favorite time of year personally, so I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But man, it has been great.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Just got finished covering this election, which was definitely a
wild ride, had some amazing interview opportunities. Got to ride
in the motor k with Vice President Harris, which okay,
it so it was.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Great, Okay, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, I know Q and I have been looking forward
to talking with you about I'm sure the election is
going to make its way into some of our conversation today,
so we won't keep the people waiting. First up from
the Black Information Network. On Friday, November fifteenth, Malcolm X's
daughters and a state filed a one hundred million dollar
lawsuit in Manhattan federal alleging that law enforcement officials were
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aware of and involved in the assassination plot. Per The
Associated Press, attorney Ben Crumb said he hoped federal and
city officials would read the lawsuit and quote, learn all
the dastardly deeds that were done by their predecessors, and
try to write these historic wrongs unquote. Speculation and questions
have surrounded Malcolm X's death for decades. The thirty nine
(01:47):
year old civil rights icon was killed while he was
speaking to a crowd of hundreds at Manhattan's Audubon Ballroom
on February twenty first, nineteen sixty five. Three men were
convicted of crimes and connection to the killing, but two
were exonerated in twenty twenty one after investigators determined they
were tried on shaky evidence and withheld information. The lawsuit
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accuses the prosecution team of suppressing the government's role in
the assassination. According to the suit, law enforcement officials had
a quote corrupt, unlawful, and unconstitutional unquote relationship with ruthless
killers that went unchecked for many years and was actively concealed, condoned, predicted,
and facilitated by government agents. The suit further alleges that
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NYPD and federal law enforcement agencies arrested Malcolm X's security
detailed days before the assassination and intentionally removed officers from
excuse me inside the ballroom where.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
He was killed.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Federal agencies had also had personnel in the ballroom who
failed to protect him, According to the suit, So for
a lot of people, you know, this might be like
a bombshell revelation. But for a lot of us, I know,
at least in the circles I've been traveling in, folks
are like, yeah, it's about time. We kind of knew this.
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So Tarrek, obviously you're here to give us your thoughts.
So let's go to you first.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
In the Q. Obviously we need you to share what
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, now that I was going to say the
same thing. It's pretty much as one of those things
where okay, like it's about time something is finally happening
here within this situation. And then when it comes to
the government and these police departments, from what I've seen
since I've been a lot, I don't put nothing past them, right,
you know, so I definitely, I definitely agree with this.
(03:32):
Looks like, you know, Ben Crump is having to say
so in this as well, which is great. You know,
he's been involved with a lot of high profile cases
as well. But yeah, it's it's about time we're seeing
something within this assassination, even though it's been a lot
of years now, but at least we're seeing something now
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better late than ever.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So yeah, yeah, cool.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Similar, I think the expectation of the prosecutor that these
people will see the wrong doings of their predecessors against
black people, I think is a lot to wish for
our country. Our government, our federal agencies have not done
a good job of acknowledging the wrong doings of their
predecessors when it comes to the mistreatment of black people.
It's something like they think that it's personal against them.
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So it's either they're going to defend themselves because they
think you're saying they're wrong, or it's the opposite. Hey,
we didn't have anything to do with that. So nothing
we can do for you, so curious to see how
it plays out though.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, yeah, this is something that you know a lot
of times, you know, people imply or otherwise suggested black
people are we have a victim mentality, or that we
are overly paranoid, or you know, we see things in
the shadows that may not be there. We're given to
conspiracy theories all that sort of stuff, and the basis
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of that is that a lot of times when things
happen in mysterious circumstances, you know, this this country has
taught us that those quote unquote mysterious circumstances to you know,
other communities beyond our own, to us is very very
it makes it makes very plain sense to us. People
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were corrupt and they tried to cover it up, or
something crazy happened that shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And this is another example.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
This is obviously a higher profile example, but you know,
for many of us, we have a cousin that got
locked up for something that you know, just being black
and nearby, or something happened where you know, just all
kinds of crazy stuff. Right, So what this happened with
with Malcolm X, you know, with what happened with Brett Hampton,
with what happened with a lot of people in the sixties.
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You know, you can go back and look, you know,
when we see what came out later in terms of
you know, what what the investigations into doctor King's personal
life held and how that was held over is he
and you see that these government agencies were doing their
best to suppress these movements, these pro black movements. When
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when Malcolm X was killed, I think that a lot
of people in the black community were like, yep, they
got them, and other people were like, whoa, I don't
know what happened, Oh my god, how could that happen?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, And so.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You know that that quote unquote paranoia, that quote unquote
victim mentality is well founded, and unfortunately sometimes it takes
a long time for the evidence to come out, at
least enough evidence to mount a case against you know, uh,
an agency like this one. And whether or not the
ruling falls on our side, I think that whether what
it does is it it affirms and validates the fact
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that we're not seeing shadows in the dark, we're seeing
what's actually happening, and we may not get justice insofar
as we're concerned, but we are not. We can now
tell ourselves that we're not crazy. And this is something
that I believe it's part and parcel to our story
in this country. Moving on this from the Black Information Network,
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white women are getting called out for their quote performative
use of blue bracelets to show their opposition to President
elect Donald Trump. The bluelet movement reportedly stemmed from an
idea by Minnesota mom identified as Libby on social media,
who wanted to separate herself from women who voted for Trump.
Exit polls showed that fifty three percent of white women
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voted for Trump, while ninety one percent of Black women
backed Harris. After Libby's video went viral, white women started
to wear blue bracelets to signal their disdain for Trump.
Some women made their own blue bracelets, while others were
encouraged to buy them from black owned jewelry companies. The
viral trend soon came under fire as performative critics say
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the trend allows white women to express their condemnation of
Trump and his policies without actually having to do the
work and examine their own communities.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Quote. We didn't need safety pins. Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
This is according to doctor Klatta Berry, an engineer and
all author. Her social media post, she goes on to say, quote,
we didn't need pink hats, we didn't need blue bracelets.
We didn't need marches, we didn't need zooms. We needed
you to get Granny Auntie's sister daughter cousin, Mama, me Ma,
Mama to the dog one voting booth unquote.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Other critics say.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
That the blue bracelet movement pointed out how it would
likely only last as a temporary trend and not represent
a lasting symbol of change.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So Tyreek, give us your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
On this blue bracelet movement and you know how it
hits you or how how you're finding it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, So I was. I was looking at the story
and I don't know, I'm kind of like whatever that
that's kind of how I feel about I don't really,
it's not to me. It's not really a moving, a
moving type protest or I guess if they're calling it
a protest or whatever against Trump. I mean, and I
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agree with the quote, like if you were actually going
to do something, then it would have You should have
done something during the voting season, right, and you should
have got the people to the polls, not saying that
they didn't, but it seems like that that's what they
should have done, according to that quote. So the blue
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bracelet thing out of I think it's kind of pointless.
I mean, he's going to be elected, he won the election,
he's going to be elected, He's going in office. What
are the brew blasi is going to do nothing? So
that's pretty much how I feel about it. So I
think it's kind of pointless, besides the fact that you know,
you're wearing it just to say you don't support Trump.
(09:41):
But I mean, whatever, it's not it's not moving it's
not moving anything forward for me.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's hard in the wake
of this election to feel almost anything positive, especially with
regards to what would be considered a performative gesture like this.
But I cautioned us to say, right, we can't have
it both ways. A half a decade ago, when the
other guy was president, the first time I heard people
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saying I'm glad that these racist people are coming out
of the closet and being racist with their whole chest.
Even though that was a very very dangerous truth, people
seemed to appreciate the idea that people were being forthright
with their feelings. Some of these women wearing these blue
bracelets are sorry. Some of these women wearing these blue
bracelets are upset. And just like with June teenth, when
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people show up clumsy and they don't do it perfect,
we criticize them. I say the same here that they
can't undo the vote. But not every white woman voted
for Donald Trump. And if some of them want to say, hey,
you have an ally here still in this world that
just got way more dangerous for you and way more scary,
and all you see every day is red maga hats,
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maybe this blue bracelet will say to a person that's
walking down the street scared, upset, angry, tensed, OK, there's
somebody here that doesn't hate me. There's somebody here who's
not actively working against me. If all they can do
right now is the blue bracelet, it's not them doing
nothing right, so don't I'm not jumping up and down
like yay go blue bracelet, But I'm also not condemning
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them for trying to say something showing some sign of
solidarity because.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It is feeling real bleak right now. Yeah, yeah, I
love that. I think that that is That's well.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I would expect nothing less, because that's kind of the
space that we work in, in the allyship space, and
so we tried our best to kind of understand that
people aren't born knowing what tactics are best deployed in
support of marginalized communities, and certainly not white folks who
have just a different experienced day to day. You know, allyship,
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while we're here, is complicated. It can be complicated, and
I learned that during this election. I don't think that
this was the only deciding factor, but I think that
there was a lot of factors that kept a lot
of people from voting. As you both know, voter turnout
was very low, and at least, well, how about this,
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a significant number of people who chose to withhold their vote.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
For the top of the ticket.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Those people were concerned about their allyship insofar as Palestine
was concerned.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I know that's why I said, at least some folks
you know what I mean. And this is why I'm
trying to explain how allyship can be complicated, because you know,
we actually have a mutual friend who talked about this,
who's like, you know, there's no way there's no way
that I could vote for Kamala Harris, whose administration is
actively committing genocide. I can't do that, and I obviously
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I can't vote for Donald Trump, and they get stuck
behind that one thing and their capacity to.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
What is the word I'm looking for? I think critically
beyond that that'll work.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, and understand that the implications go beyond just that
single issue is limited, whereas ours in this newsroom, yours, Tyrek, yours,
Qan mind, we understand that there are many issues that
have implications in and of themselves, and so the ripple
effects plural go much further beyond just what's going on
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in Palestine or any single issue, you know, not black issues,
not white issues, not Hispanic issues, not immigration, not economic
restorative justice, not environmental racism, not policing, nothing. There's so
many things that themselves have other issues. And because we're
in that space, we understand that, hey, look, things can
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get worse for all of us, or you know, some
things get better for some people, other things get worse
for other people. With this issue, because people were standing
on top of their allyship, I think, and it was
kind of the most recent, I think, hot button issue
for a lot of folks where they actually were outside protesting,
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where they actually were listening to stories and trying to
dive deep and offer as much support as they could.
A lot of people, again not the deciding factor, I
don't imagine, but a lot of people were like, listen,
I can't do that. And so, you know, you learn
how people are trying to support this group at what
they feel is that the cost of this other group,
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they end up not doing anything. And for at least
a lot of people that I've talked to since the election,
I've seen that be the case for them. And so
when we're talking about, you know, people wearing bracelets and
people trying their best to do what it is that
they do, I'm just learning that it's a lot more
complicated for some people than I anticipated. And even if
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it's just a small amount of people in this past
election that wouldn't have affected the outcome, I'm starting to
see for myself that, you know, it's not as simple
as what is right and wrong. For some people, it's like, well,
everything is wrong and nothing is right, and here's what
I have is a blue but blue bracelet. I don't
know why that's such a tongue twister for me. And
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so to your point, Q, I recognize that you know,
some people they can't do nothing, but there's nothing they
can do. So you know, whenever we end up in
that position, my advice is always do what you can.
And you know, at present, it seems like this blue
blue bracelet thing is a trend. So good luck and
god speed to all the folks wearing the blue bracelets.
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This is your weekend recap with today's guest, Black Information
Network news anchor Tyreek Win.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
All Right, this from The Daily Beast.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
A one time mayor of Amityville, Long Island, faces a
laundry list of allegations, including pressuring employees into consuming drugs
and racism. According to a lawsuit, Republican Peter Imbert, who
served as the town's mayor for sixteen years, is the
head of RCI Industries and insurance firm. His conduct while
running the company is the basis for the suit, reported
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The New York Post. According to maintenance worker Ralph Guarino's complaint, Imbert,
a registered Republican, also kept a secret room stocked with
the legal weaponry, including AK forty sevens and AR fifteen's.
The former mayor also allegedly told Guarino, quote whites should
stay with whites and blacks should stay with blacks unquote.
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Quote for the for the last ten years, I've constantly
been on edge around him, just ready for him to
snap unquote, Garrino told the Post. He goes on to say,
for two years, every day I did anything he wanted.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I fear the guy.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
He once told me he has quote no one to
answer to but God unquote. So I know you've read
a little bit more about this story, Tyreek. Obviously there's
you know, in the in the article that we were
given as as research, there's a lot of crazy stuff
that this mayor was up to. But obviously the racism
part I think is particularly potent at this moment, just
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because again a person in a position of power or
formerly in a position of power harboring these feelings. So
you know, talk us through, you know how this hit you,
and you know, just give us your thoughts and then
we'll come to you. Q.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, yeah, very racist situation. But I will tell you
there was one thing that struck me in particular. Right, So,
I know he's a mayor and then he's also over
this RCI company as well, But What was pretty striking,
I would say, was the last.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Sentence that was in the article.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
It says both him and his mother still work for
the company, right, Yeah, So you know, I was just
trying to figure out, well, if this is the case,
and I would say, if this is the case, I
guess why are you still there? You know, I don't
really think that you should as a person being part
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of that. I don't really think you should accept that
if that is the case.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So I did see that, So I thought that was so.
I thought that was interesting as far as the whole situation,
the type of task that he had to.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Do was different, different, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And then obviously the whole where the racism really came
in was when he said white should stay with whites
and blacks to stay with blacks. Yeah, basically we shouldn't
be I guess it means we shouldn't be interacting. If
I had to interpret my meaning or perception of it
would be but yes, very very racist situation. So I
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guess we'll see what happens with it.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
I think your point about him still working there is
an important thing to point out. I think what this
election just showed us is that people's financial situation and
the financial pressure, the fiscal pressure that people may be under,
can lead them to make some very anti self decisions. Right,
the price of eggs and gas is what a lot
of people are saying in these post election interviews is
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why they decided to vote for the racist, adjudicated rapists, misogynists, sexist,
ignorant evil.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'll stop because I'll do this for hours.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I have.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I got a list led to people voting for someone
like him. Like Rama said in the previous story, this
single issue thing that people get caught up on. And
if this guy and his mother worked there, he probably
feels like if he spoke out that him and his
mother would both lose their jobs and then be in
a worst off situation financially. They're willing to tolerate the
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racism of their boss so that they can pay their rent.
And I know that's a very hard choice to have
to make. But not everyone has the autonomy to just
get up and walk away from a job that they
have when their perception is I can't get a job
anywhere else, Everything costs more, the economy is in the tank.
Like people fall b them to their own perception, whether
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it be true or not, you know. So then someone
like our former and now newly elected president comes along
and makes people like his boss, this former mayor and
you know, executive at this company, feel even more embolded
in their racist positions. They feel like they can say
things like this out loud because clearly, as this guy said,
he has no one to answer to.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But god, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
One of the crazy things to your point, Q, is
that you know, uh, and I've talked about it on
this show, so you know, our listeners may have heard
this from me before. But you know, imagine back in
the day, this former mayor harboring these racist sentiments. You know,
black should stay with blacks, white should stay with whites,
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you know, and there's a whole psychology behind that. It's
fear based, and it's based in ignorance, and you know
a number of things. But imagine he felt that way
back in the day. With the election of Donald Trump, again,
people like that that harbor those sentiments but may not
act on them, may not be as out loud with them,
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may not say it with their whole chest. Now they
feel like they got their guy back in office, and
the reason that he got there is because of his
sentiments he just tells it like it is, and on
and on and on. He does what he wants, blah
blah blah, there's no consequences. So now they feel like
they exist in his image and they walk in his shadow,
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and they feel supported and emboldened to your point, Q
by his re election. So those people can now turn
up the dial on people who have historically.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Been subjugated and marginalized in this country. And we've seen that.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
We've seen the rise in hate speech online against black people,
against women, so forth, and so on. We've seen an
increase in incidents around the country on college campuses, on
high school campuses, anti anti women incidents. And it was
a direct result that the spike happened the day after
Donald Trump was elected.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And that is the Trump effect.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
The Trump effect emboldens people harbor a seed of racism,
a seed, just a tiny emoticum of anti black rhetoric
and behavior and so forth, and then you know, Donald,
the election of Donald Trump just waters that seed and
(22:23):
shines sunlight on it for the next four years.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And so even if you.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Don't agree with or even if you agree with all
of Donald Trump's policies and you think he's the best
person for the job, and whatever whatever it is that
you think, you're still having to ignore the Donald Trump effect.
And for those of us who didn't like Donald Trump,
even if we agreed with all of his policies, we
would have to be concerned with that Donald Trump effect
because that actually does affect our day to day lives,
(22:47):
which admittedly there's not a lot of us, but there's
not enough mental gymnastics that I could do or the
people that voted like me could do to make that
part make sense.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Add to it all the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Things that you mentioned, Q, that he's an adjudicated piston,
he's all these other things that just he was not
a person that's bit for office. And yet and still
because so many people set the election out here, we
are so moving on this from CNN, the US Justice
Department has launched the civil rights investigation of Illinois's Sangamon
County Sheriff's office, four months after a deputy fatally shot
(23:19):
Sonja Massey while responding to her call about a possible
prowler outside.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
The thirty six year old black woman's home.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
The July sixth encounter between Massy and two County sheriff's
deputies came who came to her home near Springfield, ended
with Deputy Sean Grayson, who was white, shooting her following
a dispute involving a pot of hot water in her kitchen.
Body camera footage shows Grayson was fired and charged with
murder and other offenses, and a letter Thursday to county officials,
(23:48):
the Justice Department said the shooting quote raised his serious
concerns about scso's interactions with black people and people with
behavioral health disabilities unquote. The copy of the letter was
obtained by CNN five Eliot wics the shooting also raises
concerns about the scso's policies, practices, procedures, and training regarding
community policing, bias, free policing, response to behavioral health crises,
(24:12):
use of force, de escalation, and other matters, the DJ
said quote. Additionally, the incident and prior nine to one
one calls involving Ms Massey in the days before her
death indicate possible issues with the emergency response and dispatch system,
according to the DOJ, which said it's also reviewing employment practices,
allegations of a lack of racial diversity, and body worn
(24:36):
camera compliance. The Justice Department will investigate sorry whether these
matters amount to race and disability discrimination prohibited by federal
law according to the letter. So this is just a
little bit of movement on Sonya Massey's story, which was
well covered by the Black Information Network Tyreek.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Let's get your thoughts here. So I would.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Actually like to know what this share of training like,
what SHAFF training looks like, because I know they were
talking about, you know, they need to investigate the way
that I guess the training is going and the practices
and procedures and things in that nature. So I definitely
agree that something needs to be done about the way
(25:16):
the share of and police are being trained. Obviously there's
there's something missing or there's something not happening, and of
course we have various bad apples that are police officers
and sheriffs and stuff, and and unfortunately that is the case.
But there is something that is happening within this training
(25:39):
that the that they have to go through where some
something is not clicking. There, there's something that's this is
not We're constantly always having issues with police and sheriffs
and all and all of this stuff. So there needs
to be something to take place. There needs to be
something to happen. But I will say the the training
(26:00):
does it does raise a concern absolutely, so I definitely
agree with that. But yeah, it's good that they're doing
the civil rights investigation and so we'll see what comes
out of this investigation.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah, I mean, we spoke earlier about performative gestures, right.
The Department of Justice investigated the Phoenix Police Department and
found that there were a lot of not just bad
apples with bad practices violations. And then after that investigation,
they jumped out the car and attacked a man for
(26:37):
being close to them black man, a black man who
was deaf, who was not only deaf, but they responded
to a person who just committed a crime just pointing
to the next black person he saw. The police were
called for the men that they encountered, the men that
they encountered, who was white, pointed to a black man
across the street, and instead of doing anything to the
(26:59):
white men who who had just committed a crime, that
got in their car, drove across the street and beat
up a black man. After a Department of Justice investigation,
So our police agencies have always done and continued to
do what they were created for. Okay, a long time ago,
a group of people came to this continent, stole all
(27:20):
the land, and then created someone to protect them from
having that land and property stolen back. They then brought
people here from another continent, turned them into slaves, and
hired more people to make sure that those slaves remained
slaves into perpetuity. That's what our policing agencies were designed
for at their inception. So when people said years ago
to defund the police, and everybody got afraid and oh
(27:41):
my god, we're not going to have law enforcement anymore.
And that's the worst thing that could possibly happen. Even
black people spoke up against defund the police, which defund
the police was just a bad slogan. Law enforcement in
this country needed long ago to be reimagined and recreated, right,
because it's not a lot when it says to serve
and protect on the side of their vehicles, it's just
(28:04):
those people, it's just who they're designed to serve and protect.
That's not indicated. So there's just some context missing from
that statement. And again I say we should have because
I believe that we are not passed the part where
anything can be done. Our newly elected president has made
it very clear that he intends to make things like
this easier for police officers to get away with. He
(28:26):
wants to give them blank immunity. He wants to kind
of double down on this lack of accountability that they're
already experienced. That the reason why I said performative gestures,
because yeah, even if they come and find that these
officers violated every possible thing that's in place, its officers
can be reassigned, rehired, put on paid leave. There's no
(28:46):
accountability almost ever, so there's no reason for them to
change anything because those who run these organizations, they have
something that they want to accomplish, and it just continue
to put their boot on the next of people that
they can can. And unfortunately, our newly elected president tends
to make that an even more severe curve downward.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And the worst part about it is that some people
can appeal up to the Supreme Court. And we know
what happens with the Supreme Court now, especially with Donald
Trump's reelection, that that Supreme Court is the ace card,
the master stroke for the rest of our lives at least,
and so quote all right, I'm going to share a
(29:28):
bonus story with you before we go. This from WUSA
nine is out of Waldorf, Maryland. A Charles County family
speaking out Saturday after their seven year old son ended
up in the hospital after an incident at his elementary school.
The boy's mom posted about her son's experience online, and
it has since gone viral, with over two hundred and
fifteen thousand likes on Instagram as of Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
My child, who is the second grader, was hung in
the boys bathroom by a fourth grader. I received the
most traumatizing phone call from the school stating that my
child was being rushed to Children's hospital in I'm feeling
anger and seeing read but my son is here about
the grace of God and I will forever be thankful.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Charles County Public Schools released a statement saying, dear parents, guardians,
and staff, I want to update you on a situation
that occurred today at See Paul Barnhardt's elementary school. This afternoon,
two of our students were reportedly horse playing in a
school bathroom when one student's jacket got caught on a
stall door hook. The student was not able to free themselves,
(30:29):
and the other student involved was also not able to
help them. The student left the bathroom to seek help
from staff and reported the incident to administrators. Administrators responded
and were able to assist, but staff called nine one
one for additional precautionary medical support. His parents said they're
sharing their side of the story and hopes of preventing
this from happening to anyone else.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
My son did tell me that when they were in
the bathroom, he said, the little boy told him, quote,
I'm going to show you how I did people back
in the day unquote. That's why I feel like it's bullying,
his mother said. His mother goes on to say, it's
not telling how many other are Sorry, it's no telling
how many other kids this has happened to unquote. So
(31:13):
just your final brief thoughts, Tybreek and then UQ and
then we'll wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, so very very sad situation here. It is good
that the child is alive. I will say, I think
the school statement is so byes. I don't I don't
really like the way that they put it, saying it
looks just to go back, it looks like they said
that it was Jackie got caught on this door hook
(31:42):
it that that's kind of just downplaying the actual situation
and what actually took place in the bathroom. And as
a as a person who did go to school, I
have there are incidents that do happen in the bathroom.
I haven't seen, of course, I haven't seen anything this fortunate,
but there are fights, there are all all kinds of things, right,
(32:05):
and so I don't like how the school system just
tried to downplay what took place. And then with the
son talking about what the other child said to him,
you can't have that quote and say that it got caught,
you know. It's so obviously he had some intentions to
(32:25):
do something to this child, and which he did that incident,
and he hung the child in the bathroom, So for
the school to say that it just got caught is
pretty absurd.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, As a parent of a student who has been
a victim to violence and hate speech at school, this story,
as you guys can imagine, stuck out to me. And
just like you said, Tyreik, the two kids were horse
playing and the jacket got caught on a hook. It's
such a ridiculous way to try to explain this story,
especially once you read the quote that I'm to show
(33:00):
you how we did it back in the day. It's
just a failure of our children by those who are
in positions of authority, who are who we expect to
protect them. And every day we send our children to
school hoping that the adults in the room will make
sure that they're doing okay. And I don't know, stories
like this make me have less faith and I cannot
(33:23):
stop myself from going back to this election, you know,
getting rid of the Department of Education and getting rid
of places like this for children who are in special
situations or who have special needs, things are going to
get more difficult for us before they get easier, and
we might have to deal with this for a very
long time.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
It's extremely discouraging. Man.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, well, unfortunately, we're going to have to leave it
right there. But of course, if there are any new developments,
will be here to report on them. In the meantime,
I'd like to thank you very much for your time
and your insight. Once again, today's guest is Black Information
Network news anchor Tyreek Went. This has been a production
of the Black Information Network. Today's show is produced.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
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