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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here at the Black Information Network, we know how important
it is for you to start your week off energized, engaged,
and enlightened.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
There are always major stories that break over the weekend,
and we feel you should know about the ones we
are talking about today.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So stay tuned for our weekend recap. This is the
Black Information Network Daily Podcast. I am your host ramses
Jah and I am your host q Ward. All right, well,
we've had an interesting weekend. A lot of us are
still recovering. I know that that's been the feeling around here.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We've been kind of leaning on each other.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah for that recovery, Yes, indeed, But you know, life
goes on and the news goes on. And before we
get started, I want to acknowledge the viral moment that
took place. For those that don't know, TD Jake's had
a medical incident during a sermon, we want to share
a bit from his camp. This as a statement from
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the Potter's House of Dallas. This came on November twenty four,
twenty twenty four, during today's service, Bishop TD Jakes experienced
a slight health incident and received immediate medical attention. Following
his powerful hour long message, Bishop Jakes is stable and
under the care of medical professionals. The entire Potter's House
family is grateful for the outpouring of love, prayers and
support from the community. Thank you for your understanding and
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continued prayers. So we just want to send a shout
out to TD Jake's. That's as much of an update as.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We have Bishop Jakes and to his family and his
church family as well.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Absolutely, and obviously as more news comes out, we'll share
that with you. First story this comes from News one.
On November twentieth, Mary Lewis, a black woman, was awarded
a whopping two point two million dollars settlement in her
lawsuit against Saferant Solutions, a third party service that provides
residents screening and applicant risk scores to landlords and property managers.
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According to the company's website, the lawsuit stemmed from Lewis
being denied an apartment in Massachusetts in twenty twenty one.
Her excitement about moving into a brand new home. According
to the Associated Press, she was disheartened to receive an
email from safe Rent stating that her application had been rejected.
The core of Lewis's lawsuit was centered on Saferant's use
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of an algorithm to assess rental applicants, which she claimed
discriminated against her based on race and income. The suit
alleged that the algorithm failed to account for the benefits
of housing vouchers, a crucial factor in determining a renter's
ability to pay. Mary Lewis argued that this outright sorry,
that this oversight unfairly disadvantaged low income applications who rely
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on these vouchers. Additionally, the lawsuit accused Saferances algorithm of
placing too much weight on credit information, which it said
provided an incomplete picture of an applicant's ability to pay
rent on time. The suit further contended that the system
disproportionately penalized black and Hispanic applicants, as they often have
lower median credit scores due to long standing historical inequities,
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thus make it harder for them to secure housing. So, yeah,
this one was interesting because this was not an outcome that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
We really expected.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We're grateful for, but you know, normally people don't acknowledge
the systemic part of this.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I want to do some more research into that story
because everything that you just read is true. We are
disproportionately affected by you know systems like that, but those
systems seem to be in place across every industry and
every sector that requires level of credit and money to
buy things. If you want to buy a car or
in a house, buy a home, that use income and
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credit score, and yes, those things do disproportionately affect black
and brown people. I just need to know more about
how this will set up precedent legally, because again, everything
that was said there was true. So interested to see
where this goes because I was caught off guard when
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we got to the reasoning. I was ready for there
to be more and if that was it, and I'm like, well,
all of that stuff has always been true, So what
was different in this case where she was able to
sue and get a very large settlement? So well, I
think that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't know. I don't know this, but if I
had to speculate, people are creative, and people have a
strong desire to be right and not viewed in a
negative light. And computers don't reason the same way people do.
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Computers are not subjected to things like shame or being
ostracized from society. So if a computer is doing something
that's racist or discriminatory, it's just doing that right. And granted,
the computer can be programmed by people who harbor certain
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sentiments or computers otherwise can really hold a mirror of
to society and put all of the inequities on full
di display. But computers, in theory are objective, whereas people
historically have tried to hide that. You say, best throw
a stone and hide your hand. And so if you
get a person in a courtroom, a person is going
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to try to defend themselves and try to say, okay,
this that or the other. And I believe that this
company more or less did the same thing. They really
didn't want this to go. They didn't want to defend themselves,
and they cited that they didn't want to spend the
money to litigate this, so they settled, you know, or
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somehow if they took a shortcut, if to.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Avoid spending money, they gave somebody two point two million dollars.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
This company is doing very well, I must do that,
and they probably stood to lose more than that. So
so yeah, but obviously you're right, the precedent that this
sets could be very meaningful, especially as you know, laws
continue to come together, and well.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Maybe would have been very meaningful at some point in history.
I don't think right now to'll have the impact that
we hope and wish it would. I'll be looking more
into this story and doing some further research. Next up,
this is from Black Enterprise.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
President elect Donald Trump nominated his first African American cabinet pick,
Scott Turner, to be the Secretary of the United States
Department of Housing and Urban Development. Trump announced Turner's placement
via a press release emphasizing Turner's past accomplishments. The soon
to be Hudd's secretary is a veteran NFL player and
also supported Trump during his first term in office. The
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former Texas House Representative served as the first executive director
of the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council. CNN's Laura
Coates spoke with Byron Donalds and asked him about Trump's
failure to recommend him for a cabinet position. Donalds denied
feeling snubbed and continued to support the Republican Party's choices.
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The congressman believes the accomplishment outweighs diversity. He claims the
Biden administration sacrifice progress for the sake of diversity. Though
the administration boasts many economic and social policy wins. So
Byron Donald's obviously, you know, staying in line with Donald Trump.
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He's not going to bad mouth Trump now that he's
you know, reclaimed the White House, and I'm sure he's
waiting on his opportunity to serve you know, this administration.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The interesting thing is that opportunity never has to present itself.
There's the proximity to power that he cares about. And
most Republicans won't badmouth Donald Trump, whether they agree with
him or not. Even those who have bad mouthed him
aggressively in the past realize in order to win quote
unquote at politics, you have to be popular, and the
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most popular person in their party by far is the
new president elect. And they've considered the alternative right. Speaking
against him could literally, according to threats from Trump and
his people, cost them their career careers. Yeah, so nobody
wants to cross that line. They want the proximity to
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his power and really just the ability to stay in
the position that they are in, to make their money,
to live their life kind of free of circumstance, which
has become the kind of calling card of the Republican Party.
And you know, many people will hesitate to speak out
against Trump because of that. You know.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The one thing that kind of rubs me the wrong
way about this, though, is that Byron Donald's you know,
he says accomplishments outweigh diversity, and I think that that's
an extreme oversimplification intentionally, like it's it's intentional what is it,
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intentional ignorance or oversight or something like that. I think
you say better than I do, but it's it's intentionally
misleading it and it paints the picture in almost like
a like a charity or a welfare type of way.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
They want us all to believe that life is a meritocracy,
and it's not right in their minds. What they're trying
to convey is if you're the best, you'll get the
opportunity every time. And we just know that that's not
the truth. Confirmative action diversity when the inclusion initiatives were
not created as charity initiatives. They were created to get
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rid of the blatant oversight that was happening with regards
to candidates across all industries, education, opportunity, employment, healthcare, housing, everything.
People were being intentionally ignored in every space. So people
created programs to say Hey, at least look at candidates
from this pool that you guys are clearly that you
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guys clearly can't for yourselves consider, so let us help
you help yourselves. A lot of times more qualified, more
skilled candidates come from duman Action and DEI, not less
under candidates. That's not how it works.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But you know the way that that he's saying this,
and then of course him equating with with or a
diversity with the Biden administration and somehow suggesting that the
Biden administration has had problems as a result of the
diversity of the administration. And I love the fact that
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the article points out the administration boasts many economic and
social policy wins. And so you know this, I'm not
a fan of this guy, but we have to talk
about him because he's black and he's been overlooked. And
of course we have to talk about Scott Turner as well.
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So at least there are some some black people. But
I think there's an article that came out that this
said there are more white guys named Doug in Trump's
cabinet than there are black people.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So how about that.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That's funny, right, So yeah, I guess we'll see what
ends up happening with Byron Donalds. This is your weekend
recap on the Black Information Network with your hosts ramses
Jah and q Ward. All right, next up from the
Black Information Network. A New York man has been arrested
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after he allegedly threatened to blow up a state senator's
office in Harlem. On Monday, November eighteenth, Vadim Dirgajev was
arrested after allegedly walking into the office of Senator Cordell Clear,
located inside the State Office Building, and issuing a series
of threats against her staff. Per The New York Post,
Clear said she wasn't present for the threats. The Democratic
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lawmaker said she was on the phone with a staffer
when the suspect demanded to see her. Quote, she said
that this man had come in and demanded immediately just
said I demand, I want to see Clear and if
I don't get to see her, I'm going to shoot
this office up. I'm going to bomb the place, and
remark similar to that Clear recalled knowing President elect Donald
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Trump's win, the suspect allegedly said, quote, things are going
to change now. Unquote. He made some disparaging remarks about
President Biden, and Vice President Harris Clear added, Derkacheff and
a parent Trump supporter, is facing charges of making terroristic threats,
threat of mass harm, third degree menacing, and second degree harassment.
In a statement, the state legislatures Black, Puerto Rican, Hispanic
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and Agent Caucus condemned the incident quote. Regardless of political
affiliation or preferred candidates, there is absolutely no room for
threats or violence in our public discourse. It is incumbent
upon every leader who holds federal or local office to
set positive examples for all constituents by promoting respectful dialogue
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and fostering a culture of non violence. This is a
quote from the Caucuses. So yeah, that's you know, we've
talked about it before, the Trump Effect. You know, these
people feeling extra bold and extra outside with all their
racism and all their or whatever, and He's stoked those
flames and we got to live in that for another
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four years.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah. I wish I could have spoke first, because I
would appoint it to you and you highlighting that very thing,
the Trump effect. You know, we've spoken on multiple platforms
about that, and a lot of people, even black people,
spoke out during former president and newly president elect Donald
Trump's first term about how they were glad that the
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racists were, you know, out with their chest, you know,
saying all this racist stuff out loud, but they came
out of the closet, quote unquote, and I'm like, yo,
that's a dangerous, a less comfortable, far more dangerous society.
That's not better. People can be racist in their homes
and in private if it means they're going to be
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kind and polite, even if performative, in public with us,
And now that we've removed the shame of it, very
dangerous things like this are continuing to happen, and I'm
guessing will only get worse as we move into this
new administration.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
There's definitely an uptick in hate crimes when Donald Trump
is president.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So and that's not rain.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
No, no, that's that's value. I think that's the FBI.
I forget the exact number. I think it's like thirty
something percent increase in hate crimes during its first term.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It'll be worse.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And then there's obviously incidents increase in incidents of bullying
and harassment, and uh, you know, anti black and anti
immigrant of course, anti women rhetoric online and in person
on campuses and other other areas in society across the country,
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and those are documented, so yes, you're right, it's not
my opinion. Those are factual. But yeah, the Trump effect,
all right. Next up, this one is a tough one,
so brace yourself. This is from NBC w y f
F four dot com. A Simpsonville family has filed a
lawsuit claim in Greenville County Schools was negligent in responding
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to bullying and her assmen claims when it comes to
their now fourteen year old daughter. Sue claims the lack
of response from administrators, faculty, and staff led to their
daughter's attempted suicide.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Unfortunately, words do hurt. They used to teach us. Sticks
and stones will break my bones, but words will never
hurt me. Words are the one thing that we carry,
Ty Turner said. Ty is the mother of Kaliah Turner,
a former student at Doctor Finesse J. Fisher Middle School
in Greenville County. She was eleven and twelve year old
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twelve years old at the time she attended Fisher. A
twenty four page lawsuit Calia's family filed this summer details
multiple occasions where Kaliah said another student physically assaulted her
and called her a roach and a man.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
There was no less than seven to nine times that
I myself personally reached out to the school, and I
had the emails, and half the time they didn't respond back,
and if they did, it wasn't with anything of substance.
There was never any resolution, Ty Turner said. Then, on
March seventeen, twenty twenty three, Ty Turner said that became
a day she will never forget. That evening she found
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her then twelve year old daughter hanging from a belt
in her bedroom at home. She was cool to the touch,
blood was coming out of her nose, and she had
already urinated on herself. She had fully committed to what
it was that she was attempting to do, and she
was gone for eight whole minutes. Paramedics couldn't do couldn't
find a pulse, and they couldn't find her heartbeat. There
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were grown men in the room crying, Turner said. Turner says,
she's a woman of God, and she heard a whisper
from God to praise him. He said, I found a pulse.
He said, it's very faint, but I found one. I
don't know what you're out here doing he said, but
I would say he should.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Calia is a miracle, Turner says. Turner said Caliah was
in a coma for weeks, ultimately staying in the hospital
for one hundred and one days. So yeah, bullying little
black girls, especially who already have a monumental task of
loving themselves in a world that hates them, loving themselves
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in a country that hates them, bullying can be clearly
something that is a lot to deal with. You know,
my heartbreaks for this little girl, and obviously your family too.
I know you're and you're a father to a little girl.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So this is this is one of the most difficult
stories that you and I have had to ingest an
attempt to digest. Yeah, I knew it was coming to
Yeah I am. I am a girl, dad, but I'm
also a human being and lucky in a way that
we didn't call it bullying when I was younger, bullying
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when the word bully when I was young really meant
like physical, like get beat up. But I experienced this
as a young person, and thank god I had the
resolve to where it's still hurt, Like the words don't hurt.
Thing has never been true. Right. We tell our kids
and our friends this to try to give them some
encouragement and some power so that they're not as dramatically
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affected by other people's words. But words hurt me a
lot lot, and they didn't change how I felt about myself.
And that's the thing I'm thankful for. Like when people
said I, you know, I was ugly, or I was stupid,
or I couldn't read, or I didn't smell good or
whatever they would say. I didn't go home believing them.
But my feelings were still hurt. And you know, imagine
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not having that resolve, not having that resiliency to be
impacted by those things but not let them affect how
you feel. This young lady did not have that resolve,
and it was constant, and the grown ups who were
supposed to protect her, according to this story, did not
emails and letters and communication from home saying that this
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is happening and nothing changing could lead a child who
you know, you remember you and I have talked about this.
When you're a kid in school, School is the whole world. Yeah,
it's not this small thing that's insignificant. It's everything. And
when all of your peers and fellow kids make you
feel like you don't matter in your less than constantly.
That feeling of hopelessness could lead you to trying to
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just escape in the worst possible way. So we're grateful
that this young lady is still with us, but we
are torn apart that she had to go through what
she had to go through. And imagine being the parent
of a child who reached that point in having to
process that. It's going to be a lot for both
of them to recover from after this. Yeah, this is.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
The tough part for me is just imagining, I mean,
think about that, imagining being in so much pain that
in your mind the right thing to do is to
hang yourself so that you don't have to feel that pain.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And yeah, there's feeling so worthless. There's no escape, there's
no light at the end of the tunnel. This is
not going to stop. So that's tough man.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, Next up, this is from the Center Square. The
University System of Georgia's Board of Regents has recommended a
number of new and revised policies for its institutions, such
as a commitment to institutional neutrality, the prohibiting of DII
tactics in a mandatory education in America's founding documents. The
University's System of Georgia USG is made up of Georgia's
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twenty six public colleges and universities, as well as Georgia's
archives and the Georgia Public Library Service.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
USG institutions sall remain neutral on all social and political
issues unless such an issue is directly related to the
institution's core mission. Unquote the board's proposed revision read quote
ideological test affirmations and oaths, including diversity statements, will be
banned from admissions processes and decisions, employment processes and decisions,
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and institution orientation and training for both students and employees.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
No applicant for admissions shall be asked to or required
to affirmatively ascribe to, or or pine about political beliefs, affiliations, ideals,
or principles as a condition for admission. The new policy states. Additionally,
USG will hire based on a person's qualifications and ability.
So this is clearly just them battening down the hatches
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and getting ready for the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
This is the erasure of our history and.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Our contributions to this country and our plight for a
more equitable society, and because a lot of people couldn't
make it to the polls or a lot of people
are just single issue voters. And was like, oh, well,
I don't agree with Kamala Harris on this one thing,
and so I'm not going to vote for either. Now
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Trump is shaping our country moving forward, and all the
work that you know, the Sojourner truths and the Frederick
Douglas's and the you know, the stokely Carmichaels and the
you know, Malcolm X's and so forth and so on.
You know, I hope none of them are rolling in
their grave and we get something back. But with the
Supreme Court stacked the way it is, might be a
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lifetime or two before we get a chance to get
back to center on these So it's a really sad day.
But we got to teach ourselves now. So we got
to teach our own kids.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And you know, you characterize this as a battening down
of the hatches, preemptive preparation for someone else's policy. I
don't see it that way. I think this is, oh
that's how we feel as well. So let's go ahead
and institute these policies. Now, we don't have to wait
for the President elect to make this mandate. This is
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what we want to do anyway. So now we know
that the support is on its way, we can get
out in front of this and just go ahead and
institute these things. I'd love to see what the applications
will look like for students and employees in Georgia. Would
ask what your ethnicity is still, because if you're still
asking that question, if you're not considering it, then why
do we need to know? So I'm very, very curious
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if you apply for a job or if you apply
to attend these universities, since they're so neutral, right, your
gender and ethnicity should not be required anymore. They'll say
it's for data. Okay, yeah they won't. They wouldn't dare
use it to disqualify you. Not in America.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
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