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October 22, 2024 • 34 mins

News anchor Amber Payton joins Host Ramses Ja on today's podcast to discuss the major stories from this past weekend.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here at the Black Information Network, we know how important
it is for you to start your week off energized, engaged,
and enlightened. There are always major stories that break over
the weekend, and we feel you should know about the
ones we are talking about today, So stay tuned for
our we can recap featuring Vin Senior Editor and news
anchor Amber Payton. This is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast,

(00:22):
and I'm your host, Rams' job. All right, Amber, Welcome
back to the show. What's the latest and greatest in
your world?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Latest and greatest in my world? There's a lot going
on in my world, so I don't even know how
to answer that.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I know the feeling.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's election season, so they probably got us all running
around crazy right now. But you know, duty calls and
we got some news to cover, So let's cover the news.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
How about that?

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
All right? First up from Revolt d L.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Hughley is not holding back jokes or commentary regarding the
twenty twenty four presidential election. Countless accounts of false claims
have fueled support and disdain for both Harris and Trump.
Among the sources of misleading posts is Twitter. Elon Musk
has been a supporter of the former president, even speaking
at voter town halls on his behalf. When Hughglely joined

(01:14):
radio personality Big Boy for a recent interview, he agreed
that jokes about the political climate were quote low hanging
fruit end quote, but did not mince words when speaking
about Musk's involvement in the election cycle. He first pointed
out the purchase of Twitter. Quote when you're really, really rich,
what do you buy media? And why do you buy it?
Because you want to control the narrative. You want to

(01:37):
be so rich that you tell people what to think.
Quote the original Kings of Comedy star said, goes on
to say, quote instead of x's, it should be three
k's hugely, ap jokingly quipped, piggybacking on reports that suggest
the app is struggling to get its revenue in the black.
He continued to explained, quote, even that tells you how

(01:58):
much money you have and how important it is. I'll
lose money to shape a narrative. I'll lose money to
shape minds, to tell people what to think. Like he's
literally the chief of dispensing misinformation.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
The chief of it. He's ai.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
All these kinds of things, he said, all kinds of
stuff but that is how valuable having information is, the
access to information. So this is something that a lot
of people have been talking about online, of course, and
i'd imagine just because the election is in the air,
people are talking about it.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
At the workplace and so forth.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Way in here, give us your thoughts on this one too,
and see how I want to see how it fits
with my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, you know, one, we all know who you know
Elon is voting for, right, But I just think that
you know Elon is the You are the CEO of
space X, of Tesla, you are the owner of x
formerly known as Twitter. You are the richest person in
the world. He has all of this power, and which

(03:03):
means he's he's a very influential person. But the amount
of misinformation that this man pours out, I mean, as
recently as I'll use FEMA as an example, like he's
the person that a person he wasn't the only, but
he might have been the most influential person who talked
about FEMA blocking donations to victims of Hurricane Helen, which

(03:28):
was never true. Right, And so the he has the
power to influence voters, like you said, it's election season,
which he has tried his best. You know. I when
we had the Black Women for Harris campaign in what
July I think that was, and they raised it was

(03:50):
forty four thousand Black women. They raised one point five
million dollars, and then immediately after White Dudes for Harris popped.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Up two hundred thousand. White Dudes for Harris raised four million.
It was somewhere around.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
There, and so the next day their their ex account gone.
Because he doesn't support those that support Harris. It's just
he's using his power and his influence. He knows he
has it, hence why he does and says the things
that he does. But he's just I don't want to

(04:26):
say he's using it for like evil, but that is
the thought that comes That's the word that comes to mind.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, honestly, I think I can keep this short. You know,
anyone left on X I understand if people have built
like kind of a big following there, and that's you know,
it's hard to let that go, especially if it fuels
different parts of your career.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
But I'll say it this way.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I recognize in respect that you have to be struggling
with the fact that the owner of that platform is
unless you know it's an echo chamber for you. You
have to be struggling with the fact that that platform
is very toxic to free speech, despite Elon Musk's position

(05:18):
as a free speech absolutist. You know, I came across
something might have been yesterday. There's an artist named Jelly Roll,
a country artist, and he kind of has his.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Roots in hip hop, and he said that.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
X is the most toxic platform and that he's getting
off the platform. And that was like headline news, and
which is how I knew about it. And he's I
think he's got the number one album in the country
right now, but I think that that reflects my feelings
about that platform. As soon as Elon Musk took over,

(05:56):
I was nervous. But once I found out that the
in word, the use of the in word rose however
much percent. I just saw the writing on the wall.
I was like, you know what, I'm not going to
participate in this. There are a number of social media platforms,
and you know, my following on X as they call

(06:16):
it now, was not more important to me than my
own dignity. So you will not find Rams's job there.
You will not find civic site for there. It's unless
they get sold again or something else happens.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I'm being honest. I find me on fan base.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I use ex maybe once or twice a year, because
you know, we work with we work with iHeart, and
there comes a time when we like to promote the
events that iHeart does, like the iHeartRadio Music Festival, and
so I'll post that that is that might be the
only tweet that you've seen for me consistently every year
for the last five years.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I don't use it.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
There's so many different social media platforms. It's I can
you know, if Eli on Us just so happens to
be listening to the Black Information Networks podcast right now,
I'm sure neither you nor I will have an X
account by the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh yeah, no, I don't have one, and I don't
have no desire to buy a Tesla or you know,
have an X account.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
You know, Gmax Electric Vehicles.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know, Instagram is more influential in terms of the
people I'm trying to reach anyway, and for me, you know,
we have kind of different positions. But for me, my
Heart's never made a big deal out of whether or
not have an X account. So nobody even like really
noticed that I don't have it so or that I
had it and now don't have it. But for everybody
who's contemplating like how to move forward, especially if you

(07:39):
are a content creator and you're thinking of you know,
where you can take your thoughts where they won't be obstructed,
where you can where your presence can have a meaningful
impact on, especially like black community and black creators. I
highly recommend fan Base and like I said, if you
want to go where they're there's a lot of people. Instagram,

(08:01):
you know, even Facebook, all those places still have tons
of people, so you know, food for thought. Anyway, moving
on this from the Black Information Network, a substitute teacher
was removed from a Minnesota high school classroom after he
allegedly engaged in quote racially harmful behavior, including reenacting George
Floyd's murder Wisconsin police officer Stephen Dwayne Williams, a substitute

(08:23):
teacher at Woodbury High School in Washington County, Minnesota, performed
the quote prone restraint on a student in the fourth
period of English class unquote. Sean Hogendorf, the communications director
for South Washington County Schools, said in a statement. Per
c and Inn and a letter to the school community.
Administrator said Williams quote put a student on the ground

(08:46):
in front of the class as part of a reenactment
of the police actions that resulted in the murder of
George Floyd unquote. Quote police brutality isn't real unquote, Williams
allegedly told students. According to the local school letter, the
sub institute teacher also allegedly told students that quote cops
would be the best criminals unquote, and that quote they

(09:08):
know how to get away with stuff. Woodbury High School
Principal Sarah Sorenson Wagner called the incident quote.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
A racially harmful situation. Sorenson Wagner noted that the teacher
was immediately removed from the classroom and walked out of
the school following complaints from students. Quote.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
We are continuing to investigate the incident, but I want
to assure you the substitute teacher will not be back
in Woodbury High School again, the school said in a statement.
Woodbury Police Department has also launched an investigation into the incident.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
We are disturbed by the preliminary information of what occurred.
This from Woodbury Public Safety Director Jason Posel This statement
goes on to say, the safety of the students, teachers, staff,
and our community is our top priority. We will investigate
this incident to the fullest extent while knowing compassion to

(10:01):
the students impacted. Williams was also reported to the Minnesota
Department of Education and the Minnesota Professional Educator Licensing and
Standards Board. The Prescott, Wisconsin Police Department, where Williams had
been employed for the past two years as a patrol officer,
put him on administrative leave amid the investigation. All right,

(10:23):
so a lot of quotes in that one, but right,
let's get your initial reaction here when you came from.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Two things.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
The first thing, it's very odd that a police officer
decided to demonstrate the thing that caused worldwide outrage.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, meaning you.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Are one of the officers that didn't learn the lesson
the first time.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
The fact that.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Because I did read up on this story, the fact
that a student was was so disturbed by it told
me that it wasn't just you know, us as adults
that were traumatized by it, and you know the babies,
you know, the children were as well, So you would yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
So they would have been even younger.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, exactly, and so to demonstrate that, it's like you're
making them relive the trauma.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
What was the lesson?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I got a little confused because the police officer did
the demonstration, but the teacher the quote where he said
cops would be the best criminals. They know how to
get away with stuff. I was a little bit confused
because are you in support of this or are you
are you against it? Or I couldn't tell if I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Tell, Yeah, So for me, I was thinking that, So
let's back up. This officer doubles as a substitute teacher.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Oh, he is the substitute teacher.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
And yeah, and he.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
In the class, perhaps is on a tangent, ends up
having this conversation and he shows what the police were doing,
uh in the in George Floyd's case, and then he's
an apologist for police, effectively saying, you know this, this

(12:29):
is not the police's fault. The police are the good guys,
you know whatever. You know, we have the quote up
here and I could find it for you again. But
he says, you know, police brutality isn't real. That's that's
a direct quote. And then he goes on to say
cops would be the best criminals and they know how
to get away with stuff. So it's almost like indoctrination. Yeah,

(12:54):
it's almost like teaching the students to become boot liquors.
It's almost like teaching the students that George Floyd deserved
exactly what he got. And the thing that I often
say is that you only need to change one thing
about the situation, right, you know, if there's equal justice

(13:15):
under the law, if you know, lady liberty is blind,
you know all that stuff, if that's really true, and
swap out George Floyd for a twenty three year old
Caucasian female, a sixty six year old privileged corporate executive
who's white. Yeah, swap him out for any of those people.

(13:36):
Does he have a knee on his neck until he
dies in the street, and then do police come after
the fact and say what this officer is saying?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
And if you can't answer that question in the affirmative
that the police will will treat that exactly the same,
then I think that what you're doing is mental gymnastics,
trying to rewrite the story or rewrite the narrative around
police and doing that in a classroom obviously is exceptionally problematic,

(14:07):
and this is where the idea of indoctrination comes from.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
So just my thoughts, it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
But that also makes it worse because one now I
have another question. What's this the part of the planned
curriculum this school year?

Speaker 4 (14:23):
I would really hope not.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I doubt it.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah, if my voice didn't matter, people wouldn't be trying
so hard to silence me, And if my vote didn't matter,
they wouldn't work so hard to take it away. So
you know why I'm voting this November because I know
they don't want me to.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
Your voice is powerful, your voice matters. Don't let your
voice be silenced. To register, confirm your voting status, or
get information about voting in your area, visit vote dot gov.
That's vote dot gov. A message from the Perception Institute
and the Black Information Network.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
B I.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
N Senior editor and news anchor Amber Payton is here
with us discussing the weekends major stories All Right next
from NBC News. Black conservative radio host Shelley Winter drew
outrage from many when he broke down the blackmail electorate
in the US into quote House African Americans and field

(15:19):
African Americans quote during an appearance on Wednesday on CNN
on CNN News Central with co host Sarah Sidner, Winter
was discussing whether black people will turn out to vote
for the Democratic presidential nominee as they have in the past,
or vote Republican in larger numbers. Quote, let me boil
this election down in the African American community to a

(15:40):
very simple I'll reference to Great Malcolm X. He said,
this race is between House African Americans and Field African Americans,
and Field African Americans are voting for Trump. Invoking slavery
seemed to stun Sidner and guest Michael Blake, a former
advisor to Barack Obama. The comment also incited an avalanche

(16:00):
of social media criticism directed at Winter, whose radio show,
The Shelley Winter Show, is based in Atlanta. At the
same time, Winter's comments highlighted the sensitivity surrounding the black
mail vote and how influential it may be in November.
So yeah, I mean, obviously, there's been a number of

(16:21):
black men in positions with platforms who have been very
critical of other black men continuing to vote Democrat because
the vast majority of black men are still very democratic
in our values. And as a result in our vote.

(16:45):
But for him to say to make the comparison of House, well,
I mean we can say it here House negroes versus
Field negroes. That one obviously got a lot of folks
up in arms. So give us your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Her amber.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Was a bit much, and he said he knew that
he knew it when he said it. Yeah, right, I
don't know that I would compare it to house slaves
and feel slaves. I would just do continue to do

(17:20):
what everyone's been doing, which is encouraging the Black community
to vote. Yeah, I know that this this election, you
know some I'm even careful with my words is I
don't want to encourage I'm not trying. I don't want
to sound like I'm encouraging anyone to vote either way. Right,
that's not Oh.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I can do that. I know you guys can't. But
I can definitely do.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
It, right, I can't.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
So I'm like, I'm tiptoed around my words right now.
I would I think that he did take it to
the extreme, sure, But the message, the message behind it
was just to make sure that black men, and I
think the entire black community go vote, so that whoever

(18:04):
you don't want to see in the White House whoever.
So that they don't, they have a better chance of
not getting in there if you go cast your vote.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Sure, that's all I can say.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, I know it's tough to talk about it, but
let me say this, because our listeners know how I
feel about Donald Trump. I've made my feelings about Trump
known for years on this show.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
In terms of this guy.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Taking a quote from Malcolm X and using Malcolm X's
name to hide behind the fact that what he's saying
is foul and out of place and insulting, one of
the things that I will say is that Malcolm X
made his statements in the sixties, So we're talking a

(18:59):
whole differ chapter in American history when Malcolm X could
still reach out and touch human beings who were enslaved,
and he could touch the descendants of those people enslaved,
and he could see the implications of that, and he

(19:22):
could see that there were still black people who had
not come around to his way of thinking. Invoking something
like that at that time during the Civil Rights movement
made certainly way more sense than whoever this guy is

(19:43):
saying something like that. Now, Yeah, it's so far out
of place.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
On top of.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
That, him invoking, excuse me, the house negro versus the
field negro invokes slavery right, And to be fair, he
did admit that, you know, everyone's a slave to a
two party system or something like that. But I think
his position falls apart because he is a Trumper. And

(20:19):
if he could show men, if he could show me
anything that is in Trump's Agenda forty seven, that's in
Project twenty twenty five, that is intended to benefit black men,
he could show me anything. You know, he can have
his argument all day long, but every time I ask

(20:41):
that question, nobody's able to show me anything. Meanwhile, I
look at Kamala Harris's platform and forget the fact that
she's a black woman and that she has perspective that
Donald Trump can never have. Yeah, forget the fact that
Kamala Harris has a direct connection too that the legacy

(21:02):
of civil rights because she has lived the black experience
in the United States of America. Regardless of what people say.
She is a black woman. She went to Howard University.
She's an aka Okay from Oakland, California. I'm black and Cuban.

(21:24):
No one questions my blackness. I never went to an
or to an HBCU. I never pledged for any fraternity. Unfortunately,
it just didn't happen. I went to Arizona State. But
I wish somebody would challenge my blackness. I've been black
outside for a long time. Inaacp black right. So forget

(21:48):
the fact that she's a black woman, which in and
of itself should give you at least some appreciation of
what she could what perspective she could bring to that position.
But let's cast out aside for a second. She actually
does have policy on her website you can go to

(22:11):
right now that will specifically benefit black men.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
So who's the real house, Negro in? Who's the real field? Negro?
Moving on.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
This from wavy dot com, The death of a man
who is in Virginia Beach Sheriff's Office custody back.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
In June has been ruled a homicide.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner in Norfolk shared
the update with ten on your Side Friday afternoon, saying
Roland Hill died from positional and mechanical asphyxia due to
restraint with the neck and torso compression. The update came
after the Virginia Beach Sheriff's office announced Friday that five
deputies involved in the Hill incident had been terminated, and

(22:52):
today after ten on your Side requested the autopsy report
in the case. Quote based on updates from the Virginia
State Police in the Roland Hill case, deputies of the
Virginia Beach Sheriff's Office involved in this incident are no
longer employees of the Virginia Beach Sheriff's Office unquote, Sheriff
Rocky Holcombe announced Friday. Holcombe said he couldn't comment further

(23:16):
on the case as it's still under investigation by Virginia
State Police and the Virginia Beach Commonwealth's Attorney Attorney's Office,
but said his office is cooperating and committed to transparency.
Side note, I'll never understand how the police get to
investigate the police. But moving on, quote, we remain committed
to justice and transparency, which is why I requested an

(23:38):
independent investigation by VSP immediately upon being notified of what
occurred on June fourth. Our hearts continue to go out
to mister Hill's family during this difficult time, unquote, Holcomb said.
Side note bravo.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
All right.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
State Police said there were no updates as a Friday.
The COVID Weals Attorney's Office meanwhile share this statement, quote,
we are aware of the cause of death and the
fact that those five deputies are no longer employed by
the Sheriff's office. The results of the Sheriff's internal investigation
do not impact the independent criminal investigation being conducted by
the Virginia State Police and the Commonwealth Attorney's Office. This

(24:17):
office has been in contact with the Virginia State Police
since the start of this investigation. Once the vsp turnover
their report, we will thoroughly review it. We asked for
the public patients throughout our continued investigation and will share
an update at the conclusion of our review. Unquote, I'll
share this last piece. The Sheriff's office said back in

(24:37):
June after Hill's death that he suffered medical emergency after
being restrained by the deputies. Two friends of Hill, who
was thirty four years old at the time, told Ten
on your Side at the time that believed the medical
emergency was caused by Hill's treatment at the jail. So, yeah,
another black man killed in police custody, choking to death

(25:04):
or asphyxiating, I guess I should say, but it says
due to the restraint with neck and torso compression, so
crushing him to death.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
It reminded me of George five officers. It reminded me
of George Floyd.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, yeah, so go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Well you know this is home for me.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, you know, I said, yeah, this.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Is so I'm I I'm bored and raised here. Uh
and so I'm I'm always going to hold people that
I consider my people accountable.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Now, you know, it's good that it sounds like.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
The holcom who's the I'm sorry, what is his title.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Virginia Beach.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, it sounds like he held his people accountable. But I
heard homicide and I see no charges. I just see
five people who no longer have a job. Where's the
Where is really the accountability? Yes, you know, our hearts
do go out to the family that is you know,
you have to start there.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
But are we done?

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Are you going to wait.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Until the police finished investigating the police?

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Like you said earlier?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Like, well, how if this were anyone else, if it
weren't five police officers and it was just five people
that positional and mechanical asphyxia, I don't even like what
that sounds. And looks like I don't want to imagine, right,

(26:36):
but and the medical examiner ruled it a homicide, they
would waste time charging anyone else. But are they being
protected because they were officers of the law.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
So, you know, I think it's well documented that police
have a culture of protecting each other, whether or not
it's deserved, whether or not it's right. You know, some
people have violent tendencies. There are police recruiting tactics that
target those people specifically. You know, you see people with

(27:17):
the punisher logo, you see people with the you know,
all kinds of like symbolism, and they get these bullies,
these people that love violence, and then they can actually
be violent and cause harm to people if they have
a badge and a gun. The worst that they have
to you know, deal with in terms of real world

(27:38):
consequences that they're frequently having to consider is being reprimanded.
Rarely do they get fired. Rarely do they get reprimanded,
but rare still do they get fired, and almost never
do they get charged.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I want to add something because you know what this
brings up, and I don't know how familiar you are
with this case.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Do you remember.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Donovan Lynch, the name sounds familiar Orrell's cousin, Donovan Lynch.
That's why something in the water was not here in
Virginia Beach for a little while. Was shot by a
police officer while you were talking. I just I was
looking for an update. What happened to the officer? Nothing
happened to the officer.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Sure you see nothing there was.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
They said there was no evidence to support criminal charges
because his body camera wasn't one.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
But they couldn't prove that he did or didn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Oh listen, I'll do you one better.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
So you may not know this, but there's a viral
video that's being circulated right now out of Phoenix where
I am. Where I am, police officers pulled up on
a man who was well, hang on, let me start
at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
You'll love this.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
The police officers were called to a circle k over
an incident caused by a white man, okay, the white
The police approached the white man, he says whatever he says,
and he blames a black man or causing him to
be out of character. I'm you can read the story yourself,

(29:11):
so maybe maybe the details might not be as.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Exact as you'd like.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
So the police are talking to the white man that
the store workers called for. The white man blames a
black man. The police say, oh, okay, leave the white man,
who was the person the source of the issue.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Leave him there.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
They go across the street in their cars. They pull
up on the black man. Okay, black man is just walking. Okay, now,
I'm going to tell you right now, the black man
is deaf. Oh yeah, cerebral.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Pauls yes, and they oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I saw the video.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Okay, yes, So they pull up, they hop out, and
and and the police in Arizona have already been under
like investigation for discriminatory practices right world investigation for discriminatory practices,
so that they were under investigation when this happened. And
we talked about this on Civic Cipher quite a bit.
But anyway, they pull up, uh, and the officers jump

(30:13):
out of the car. Uh and they beat him up.
That's that's what happens now the office.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
He wasn't listening to their okay now, now, even if
he could hear, even if he could hear, they they
attacked him within one second, pulling up on him.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Right. So you see how the police are just lying.
It's just they're just lying. That's it.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
And then one of the officers says that he bit
he bit them, or he bit him on his hand.
Right now, the scarring was a straight line consistent with Oh,
you scraped your arm across his teeth, or you scraped
your arm across his across the ground. These aren't bitemarks.
This is a straight line. So what do they do.

(30:58):
They wait for a video or a section in the
video where the camera's out of frame, and then they say,
that's where he bit me. So the camera is like
pointing the wrong way one of the officers. The body
cam footage fell off entirely, and neither of the officers
knew that they were being recorded by the camera in
the parking lot.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
So again, if there's no camera.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Like, imagine how often this happens to black people, there's
no camera present where that.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
You just got to take that and hold that. Now.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
He got arrested that day. Fortunately the charges were later dropped.
But he got arrested that day and went to court
and the judge ruled that there was sufficient evidence to
charge the black man who was walking. Mind you, he
had nothing to do with what the white man originally said.
Nothing to do the white man just picked a random

(31:53):
black man, nothing.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
To do with it.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Whatever happened to the white guy.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Who knows he's.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Probably in a mansion somewhere living great.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Wow, But the black man will be traumatized, perhaps for
the rest of his life. Now I suspect the lawsuits
coming and blah blah blah. Fortunately because there was cameras.
But for those of us who are not lucky enough
to have cameras around, for those of us who are
not lucky enough to have such a fairy tale story.

(32:23):
And I don't mean this fairy tale as in like
all these are good things, but the public outcry because
he was deaf, because he has cerebral palsy, you know
what I mean. That amplified the story, right, So you know,
for those of us where there's no settlement involved and
we just get beat and sent back home after a
jail sentence or a prison sentence, you know what I mean,

(32:44):
And then we'll have to put together some semblance of
a life after that and carry the mental trauma of
that and the social impact. What is my social mobility
now that I have a felony or now that you
know what, and how does this affect my community?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
How does this affect data?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
How does this affect my capacity to care for my children,
to provide for my wife or my immediate family. What
are the residual effects of the police being police that
they're just doing. These aren't bad cops, These are just cops. Again,
the judge was like, yeah, there's sufficient evidence to charge
the black man for what crime? Resisting arrest? Arrest for

(33:28):
what doesn't matter, it's resisting arrest. There's video well on
this frame, the officer says that he was bitten. The
officer feared that he would run away. The officer feared
for his safety, and that blind support of the police
is why I tend to be very critical of policing
as an institution. Now, I can rant all day, but

(33:50):
I'm sure you've heard it all before, so I'll leave
it right here. Don't forget These and more stories can
be found at binnews dot com. Thank you very much
for your time and your insight and your compassion, and
you're brilliance once again. Today's guest is bi In Senior
editor and news anchor Amber Payton. This has been a
production of the Black Information Network. Today's show is produced

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