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October 29, 2024 • 31 mins

On today's podcast, Host Ramses Ja and cohost Q Ward bring you part 2 of their exclusive conversation with Texas Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. Part 2 of a 2 part interview .

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And now part two of our two part conversation with
Jasmine Crockett discussing the future for black people under a
Kamala Harris administration, hosted by me Rams's Job and Q War.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Honestly, it's not about Kamala and it's not about Donald Trump,
to be perfectly honest, I mean kind of sort of
Donald Trump, but not definitely not about Kamala. Because Donald
Trump is running from prison. This is his get out
of jail free card, right, So for him, yeah, it
is about him, right, Like he's like, I need this
because he can shut down any of the federal cases
if he becomes president, and I'm sure he will wage

(00:39):
all types of intimidation on the states. We've seen kind
of the rhetoric that he's had around the hurricane and
talking about how resources aren't going to certain places because
they're red places. That was actually again lies again, but
this was a game that he actually played. And so
I could see a scenario where because he's off because
New York, the State of New York, has convicted him,

(01:01):
he starts to withhold federal dollars if he has the
ability to control and direct those dollars, I could see
a similar situation out of Georgia if for some reason
he feels like things go the wrong way. So this
election for him, yeah, it is about him and him
running away from prison. But like, honestly, people need to
be kind of selfish and saying me showing up to

(01:22):
vote isn't really about me, because guess what, Like when
people said they didn't want to vote for Joe, I'm like,
Joe gonna be good. I'm like Joe is in his eighties,
he didn't lived his life. Joe got money. Joe gonna
be fine, Like he's not gonna be here when like
we don't have a world because the climate change, Like
Jo gonna be long gone, Like Joe gonna be fine.
When people felt like they were hurting his feelings but

(01:44):
not voting the saint about art his feelings, Like this
is a service that we offer. Like again, I tell
people all the time, it's been to don kind of
who you are. Like I made more money before I
came to Congress, and I would make more money if
I was out of Congress now, right, Like I do
this because I believe in the service. And that's the
same thing, Like you run for president. It's a lot

(02:05):
of people to make a lot more money than presidents make. Right,
the Obamas they doing a okay out of the White House, Okay,
like they are getting their money. And so same thing
with Kamala You're talking about the first black woman vice president.
You're talking about the first black female to be a
major party nominee. You're talking about someone who's been an

(02:27):
attorney general, the only black one to serve from the
state of California. Let me tell you something, if this
election goes the wrong way, guess who's gonna be fine.
She gonna be fine, but the rest of us not
so much. So like this election has to be about
you being selfish and saying, I'm showing up not because

(02:48):
of her, not because of him. I'm showing up because
of my daughter. I'm showing up because of my mama.
I'm showing up because I want better opportunities. And to
know that Project twenty twenty five has something from the
cradle to the grave that will harm us is a problem.
They don't want heads start for the children, and they
don't want they don't want heads start for the children,

(03:10):
and they absolutely want to obviously cut sobal security, raise
the age for social security, things like that, so you know,
when we look at who went out to protect the
cost of insulin, Now, who got the sugar, y'all? Who
got the sugar? Who got the sugar? Okay, all right?
So literally it was price gouging. It's like ten cents

(03:34):
to create insulin, and they were charging thousands of dollars.
People were rationing their medicine, people were dying. I mean,
this was a complete catastrophe. But having again a black
woman in position helps because or having black people in
general up the table. They can talk about these issues

(03:54):
and say, this is a problem and we want to
make sure that everyone has an And granted it's not ever,
we're going to work to expand it. But we saw
that we were able to really dictate the market itself.
Once the government said this is what we pay, then
the market then had to naturally adjust, right And so

(04:16):
you know, knowing that there are more drugs, more life
saving drugs that they're looking out for, or even when
we think about our communities, one of the things that
I've been most impressed about is having the ability to
hand out big chicks for environmental injustice issues. Right, Like,
it's always our communities, it's always the black and brown
communities that corporations have been allowed to dump on. You

(04:37):
wake up and there's this weird smell in the morning.
Whether it's the paper meal, whether it's the tire factory,
whether it's the shingles cment. Yeah, like it's it's always us.
We're always the dumping grounds. But the difference is it's
more than just a smell. It's literally killing us. And
so having an administration it says that's just not right,

(04:58):
Like we should not be okay okay with that right now.
People don't know that. As I serve on the AD Committee,
we've got all these dollars that were handed out for
environmental injustice, and so we're still pulling down on those dollars,
and the Republicans want to pull those dollars back. It
was the Inflation Reduction Act, yes, and the Inflation Reduction Act.

(05:20):
It's the largest investment and just green everything from a
new green economy to environmental injustice, like all levels of
like being a greener society. And so the Republicans are like, hey,
we want to take back all the money that y'all
did for the environment and use that money for some
stuff over in the Farm Bill, and we want to

(05:44):
cut thirty billion dollars worth of snap benefits. Some is like,
and y'all can't get the votes by yourself. You think
we gonna help you do we gonna help you undo
the good that we're doing because like no like have fun,
like have fun getting it done it and they can't

(06:04):
get it done it. So Farnville is almost two years
late now because I'm like, I'm not going to play
with child, and like, y'all is so dysfunctional that in
the majority, y'all can't even like rain down on y'all's terror.
I'm like, oh, I'm glad that y'all. My one is
they don't like each other, so why should we like them?
Like they don't like each other, they can't get along,
so why aren't child?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay? So we talk about black women with regards to.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Always for the history of this piece of land that
we now live on, that we were brought to saving
the day for us over and over again.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
And sometimes we said that in a way that's figurative.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
My grandmother's sister started a restaurant in nineteen fifty nine
and making Georgia, and this campaign went to eat there
a few weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Oh Man It made it very.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Literal that my grandmother's sisters are feeding the campaign usher
in history for black women.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
So that was a moment for me. I texted me.
I took him down to make it to go to
the to the cafe.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
You know Oprah visits when she goes to making, so
that the restaurant has really been it's a historical landmark
in making. Now I'm circling this back to Vice President Harris,
she said, and people have intentionally repurposed her saying this
as if she's not going to show up for us,

(07:30):
that she was not going to make policy just for
black people, and people have flipped that to she won't.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Make policy to help black people.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
You pointed out that as a party, we've we've not
done a good job of bragging about the things that
we do. Could you highlight some things that Vice President
Harris while she's been in office have done that does
benefit black people, since they won't bragged about it as

(08:00):
much as they should, and then people like to intentionally
plan our faces and act like they don't know better,
and some don't know better. Yeah, can we help educate
people to some things that have been done that benefit
black people?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
While she's been our vice president throughout her career. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
So one of the things that I think, well, it's
very important to me as an attorney or recovering attorney
not practicing. I don't even know what kind of attorney
I am at this point because I'm not allows parties.
But one of the things that I always found so
frustrating was I'm licensed in Texas, Arkansas federal courts, and

(08:39):
sometimes fairness was just a matter of who was sitting
on the bench. And so I think we've all been
in those scenarios, whether it's for a family case or
a criminal case or a civil case. For you walk
in and you're like, well, who was this judge? And
I hate this judge? And it's kind of annoyed becau
It's like, well, you should have shut up the boat, right,
Like now, light about the judge app the fact, right,

(09:00):
like most people don't know judge's names. And even as
we sit here in Arizona, I just brought it up
yesterday about the judiciary, and I was saying, now, thank
god for y'all's governor, who had y'all's back, who's a Democrat.
I said, Now, I don't know how the same state
that elected this democratic governor, elected these Supreme Court justices,

(09:24):
these Supreme Court justices that were intent on taking us
back to the eighteen hundreds, as it relates to briefpron
and I said, and the interesting part is that I
bet you none of y'all can name those Supreme Court justices.
You don't know their names, right, And so I'm like,
and I was trying to stress to them the importance
of always shown up and always voting. But the point
that I'm trying to make is that right now, as

(09:44):
we're living in a time in which the courts have
continuously been tearing our lives apart, I think one of
the most important things that has happened is that this
administration has appointed a historic number of people of color,
specifically women of color, to the benches. It has been
very quiet, but obviously we got our first woman, black

(10:08):
woman Supreme Court justice, which I don't know why it
took this long, but it did. We finally got it.
Even when we look at the other courts, those trial
level courts that people are going to be walking into,
and that initial look will come from say somebody like
Atanya chuck In, right, like, we have this administration appointed

(10:29):
more women of color to the bench than every other
president combined. And that was just in the first three
years or so. And this is with what I would
consider to be some hostile Senate rules, because judicial appointments
come out of the Senate. The House has nothing to
do with it. And they have all these weird traditions

(10:51):
that seemed to continuously hurt us. One it's called blue slips,
and it allows senators like mine to say we won't
accept any appointments, so they just get to waive home.
And so now we are in a backlog in certain states,
such as in their southern states, waiting and hoping that

(11:11):
they can stack those benches with Republicans like these are.
This is getting into the nitty gritty of things that
people don't even know about how difficult it it is
to move things, and how insidious the Republicans are. Like
when people say the Democrats don't fight or that we're weak,
it's because they really do some evilshit. I mean, we

(11:33):
ended up with this Supreme Court because they decided to
change the rules every step of the way to get here, right,
So that's how we ended up with the Supreme Court.
But anyway, so despite all of the challenges. I think
that it has been amazing to see what they've been
able to do on that. I think one of the
things that we don't talk about a lot is that

(11:54):
we didn't get the George Floyd and Policing Act and acted.
We didn't get it, but from an executive standpoint, it
was this administration that decided that they would ban things
like chopholes and things like that. So they took portions
of the George Floyd and Policing Act when we could
not get it through both chambers and did as much

(12:16):
of the legislation in the form of executive actions as
they can. But you know, we don't have kings and
queens here, at least not right now, and so you know,
it does take the House and the Senate and the President,
and there's limited powers that the president has, but the
president has flexed it. The wealth gap as relates to

(12:40):
black folk in this country, the wealth gap actually started
to shrink. It's the most that is shrunk, really, I
think in the history of the country under this administration.
And again we still haven't fulfilled for four years. But
let me tell you, when people talk about the Affirmative
Action decision, regardless of whatever positions they take. I need
people to understand that's the economic decision. That's about economics,

(13:03):
that's about widening that gap back up again. Because number one,
we know that this country believes that you've got to
get an education before you can get anywhere. That's just
kind of how we set it up in this country.
But more importantly, what they're trying to do is extrapolate
this decision into other decisions as it relates to department
heads for contracting. So the largest contractor of anything is

(13:28):
the United States government, right, and so they want to
limit access to getting those governmental contracts that would be
based upon those groups that historically have been disadvantaged. So
this is an economic decision. So I really need people
to start like peeling back the layers and recognizing that

(13:49):
the intentionality of this administration because one of the things
that they quietly did was under the Department of Transportation,
they have a Civil Rights Division, a division that will
cease to exist if Donald Trump is back into office.
That Civil Rights Division wanted to look at their policies
around contracting, and they're trying their best to insulate and

(14:10):
help to make sure that while they still weren't necessarily
meaning their metrics that they weren't going to start to
backslide in case things go wrong. That's another one of
those things that's been very under the radar. And when
we talk about money, like I'm talking about big contracts,
I'm talking about multi billion dollar contracts, whether we're talking

(14:32):
about roads, whether we're talking about airports, that kind of
stuff that the federal government pays for. And the reason
that it matters that people of color are able to
get those contracts is because all the numbers bear out
that the chances of a say, black owned firm, hiring
black people are higher than somebody else. So it helps

(14:55):
us overall in our community exactly exactly.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
So how about this that is looking backwards, that's looking
at right now, let's look forward. A lot has been
said about the opportunity economy that's sort of being championed
by the Harris Wallace administration. So discuss how that opportunity

(15:24):
economy would impact these same black people that are asking
the questions Q mentioned what has you.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Done for black people? Just look forward?

Speaker 5 (15:32):
What does the opportunity economy bring to the table for
black people?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, so I'm going to say that I feel as
if number one, I think I just laid out kind
of how education plays a role in our economy. But
it's been the more traditional, very expensive college.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
We know that this administration specifically understood that black folk
and brown folk, but black folks specifically have been disproportionately
burdened by student loan debt. Right. So even and this
is looking back, but I'm gonna get it to as
looking forward. So they relieved one hundred and seventy six

(16:15):
billion dollars of student loanday, the vast majority of that
there's been a net positive impact for black people. And
I'll say that. And so it's funny because I've been
in these environments where I felt like they were controlled
enough then I could ask the question. So like when

(16:37):
I was speaking to my sorority, when I was speaking
to the Omegas, I specifically asked people to raise their
hand if they ended up taking out student loans when
they went to college. Usually it's almost a hundred percent
of the room raises their hands. Right. Then I'd ask
them if anybody had their student loan deb relieved, I
get usually thirty five percent or so of the room. Wow,

(17:02):
I can only do that in a controlled environment. I
did it in essence, which everybody will show up to
essence and you know, don't know. And it was Angela
Raie that wanted to know the amounts. I was like, now, girl,
we was good to get some hands like. I was happy,
you know that everybody even showed up to essence. And
the most that I've ever heard anybody say, it's two

(17:22):
hundred and seventy thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Now can you imagine how life changing it would be
to get almost three hundred thousand dollars worth of dead
off your back. The crazy part is that I've never
heard anybody tell me less than six figures.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
There are so many people whose lives have been changed,
and I get on them. I say, if these people
can go out and talk about twelve hundred dollars, I'm
gonna need y'all to get out and talk about the
real money because like, because this is real, real, real money.
Like I need y'all to talk about how now your
debt to income ratio has been adjusted, so now you
can go and buy that home and build that generational wealth.
I need you to talk about how you're able to

(18:02):
now go get that business loan because you don't have
this on your back like and need you to talk
about how even though the cost of food may be more,
you have more dollars in your pocket to afford the
more expensive food. And so I say that to say
that I do think that there will continue to be
a strong push around student loan debt. And I think

(18:23):
that while the Supreme Court has really boxed us out
of a lot, if we can get a democratically controlled
House and Senate will be in a better position to
hopefully bring about even more relief for some people that
have been paying their student loans forever and literally cannot
get ahead. So that's one thing I think, And the

(18:43):
reason I brought up student loan debt is because some
of much of it is coming from the traditional education.
I personally believe that this administration will push for economic
opportunities in what I would consider to be more forward
thinking spaces. I don't think that we are moving in
a way in which the only way that you can

(19:04):
be successful is if you go get a four year degree.
And we have seen a shift, like there's legislation that
I'm on to give out pel grant dollars for those
that are going to two year institutions and things like
that to make sure that they have access to capital
as well to get their education. And as we continue
to move into a more tech driven society as a whole,

(19:29):
I think that they are going to be supportive of
making sure whatever that education looks like, you are seen
in an equitable space from the federal government and not
out there having to fend for yourself unless it is
a matter of going to the traditional educational routes. I

(19:49):
think that also what we're seeing with the advent of
manufacturing and how there has been a historic number of
manufacturing over one hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs that have
been created under this administration, the most that we've seen
of any that I can think of. We lost over

(20:10):
two hundred and fifty thousand manufacturing jobs under Trump. Under
this administration, we've gained eight hundred thousand new ones. But
I do want to say that manufacturing is even looking
different and how we manufacture and what we're manufacturing, whether
we're talking about the green economy or whether we're talking
about cars and the more traditional things that we think of.

(20:30):
The Chips and Science Act has been monumental. On my
ride over here, we were talking about the large investment
that was made for a chip factory right here in Arizona,
same thing as happening in Ohio with Samsung. It's about
a twenty six billion dollar investment for that particular facility.
And then we also have a new facility that will

(20:51):
be coming online in Texas as well. And so that
is what it looks like when you have really good legislation.
This particular team has always looked out for workers, and
it's not just those that are going into the corporate spaces,
it's those that are going into all spaces. And I
think that she wants to continue to push an agenda

(21:14):
that will bring more and more jobs here to the
United States and also balance out and make sure people
are equipped for whatever transition may take place because of AI.
A lot of people are nervous about AI. There's a
lot of reasons to be nervous because it's kind of like,
you know, the good and the bad that comes with it.
But more importantly, people are getting concerned about their jobs

(21:36):
and so making sure that people that were bringing new
jobs so that we will be able to balance out
exactly opportunities out there.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, you've had some.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Very viral moments, just doing your job, and there are
people who do not participate in politics or actively follow it,
who know your name now because of that. In recent news,
and thank goodness for you, you had another viral moment
regarding Project twenty twenty five. And our former president likes

(22:13):
to pretend that that has nothing to do with him,
and he doesn't know who these people are, and he
doesn't know.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
What's in it. He doesn't know what's in it, but
there's some good things that are in it, I think,
he says.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I think you mentioned his name being in that very
very hefty document some three hundred times. Yeah, can we
bring some attention to the very very obvious ways that
Project twenty twenty five is detrimental to black people?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Whatd have mercy is everything, you know. I do tell people,
if you are confused about this election, google Project twenty
twenty five and whatever your number one issue is, and
if you like what it says, then vote for Trump.
But if you dislike it, then you definitely need to
vote for Harris. So that's number one. I'm not suggesting
that anybody should really sit down and read it in totality.

(23:10):
I will say that they want to get rid of diversity, equity,
and inclusion, which is why I've argued that project tween
twenty five has already been here. The Heritage Foundation is
the one that was passing the anti DEI bills through
the state houses. They were the one giving us to
the Republicans. They were the ones that also felt like
our history needed to be deleted. The ceert bills that
we don't hear about it anymore, that all came from

(23:31):
the Heritage Foundation, as well as the six week abortion
band that they called the Heartbeat Bill. They handed that
out to the Texas House, they handed it out to Georgia,
they handed out to Florida. They handed out like they
that's what they do. So they've been doing this work
and so to live in a society where literally they're saying,
if it's the federal government. I talked about the Civil
Rights Division and Department of Transportation, they're saying, no civil

(23:54):
rights divisions at all anywhere, so that would be deleted.
So Department of Justice, they have a civil race DEVEI
where they go in, they do environmental injustice stuff. They
go after police in different areas. We just saw Tyree
Nichols case. They've been indicted and they were charged. On
the federal level, they want to deplete all resources as

(24:17):
relates to Department of as relates to Department of Justice,
or just any civil rights in any departments that we have.
As we're dealing with the hurricane, and and we know
the devastation that has been caused, I personally believe that
it will have a disproportioned negative impact on us if
they are allowed to get rid of any mention of

(24:37):
climate change that has to that phrase has to come
out of all federal documents. And they essentially really want
to just kind of gut the EPA. And we know
when we think about Flint, Michigan, right, we know that
again we have been subjected to the dirty water and
the dirty air environment exactly, and they want to delete

(24:59):
all references to that as well. So I think that
that will absolutely harm us. But again we already see
what's happening the Chevron decision that came out of the
Supreme Court. In that particular decision, it's basically saying, you
know what, the Supreme Court is going to be the
end all be all when it comes to figuring out
how much poison is okay for our how much poison,

(25:20):
not that they have any expertise whatsoever. They're like, forget
the experts, y'all got to bring to the Supreme Court
and then we'll make the decision. So, like all of
this has kind of been at play, and then you know,
with Donald Trump essentially getting the immunity again from the
Supreme Court again another arm of the project twenty twenty five,
because it seeks to empower the executor so much more

(25:42):
than the executor is supposed to be kind of turning
off the balance of our democracy as a whole. Yeah,
because we're supposed to be three coequal branches of government
and so now giving him immunity and allowing him to
do all this craziness. Well, one of the things is
that the DOJ operates separate and apart from executor. Yes,
the president will have a nominee, but that's it, right

(26:04):
because guess what, his son got convicted by this DJ.
This is just that would never happen with Trump, okay,
because he would absolutely be given power over the Department
of Justice and be able to go after those that
he wants to go after. So those are just some
of the things. But I say that it is important

(26:25):
for you to figure out what is your number one
issue and figure out where do they stand on it.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
So I know we're short on time, I want to
ask just one more question for you. Obviously we want
people to vote. Take a moment and explain why it's
so important. You touched on it earlier, but why it's
so important to do just a little bit more research
to vote down ballot.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Oh my gosh. You know, I wouldn't be sitting here
with y'all if it wasn't for people that took the
time to vote down ballot. People always ask where did
you come from? And I'm like, I've always been the same,
there's just more cameras on me now, Like that's it.
But I only won my state house race by ninety votes.
And you know I told one of my city council

(27:11):
people when she was running, I said, whatever you do
when you get in, that's just when the work begins.
So you got to kick the door down. And so
essentially they never should have let me in the door
because I kicked it down.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
It was the state House race in the state of
Texas that year, But in record time, there's never been
another freshman black member for sure of the state House
and then got called up and went to the US House.
I mean, it just doesn't happen. And it was because
of the work, but it was because people decided to
show up and voted my election. And I believe that

(27:50):
you can have the representation that you seek if you
just take the time to do the research and find
out who these people are. My district knew who I
was when they decided to send me to DC, and
so my district is all good with me. The rest
of the world is starting to figure out who I am,
but my district knew me, and they made the concerted
effort to make sure that they sent me to DC.
And you have that power. It's not just about the president,

(28:13):
because I'm gonna be perfectly honest and tell you that
everybody else will affect your life a lot quicker. The
chances of meeting a president of the United States are
kind of slim. The chances of you meeting you're a
city council person or your mayor a little bit better,
and ultimately we all work together. I am constantly on
the road, I'm constantly somewhere other than Texas, but it's
my local elected officials that call me and say Hey,

(28:34):
we need money for these roads, these bridges, or whatever
it is that they need money for. And then my
job is on the federal level, is to figure out
how I'm gon go find out that money and send
it back home. So everybody in this equation matters. But
more importantly, as I sit here in Arizona and I'm
not campaigning in Texas, and even though we may have
a pretty tight Senate race in Texas, I tell people

(28:55):
all the time that I'm here for my constituents, because
those on the state level have just that in January
they're going to seek the death penalty for anybody seeking
an abortion in state of Texas. I can't get freedom
from my constituents in Texas. It's got to come by
way of making sure that Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia,

(29:20):
that everybody shows up and that they cast the vote
for the people that I know will do their best
to protect my constituents. But right now, if people don't
wake up and start voting on the state level, if
they don't start voting on the federal level, we would
have fairer lines on the state level or county levels,
and things like that if the Voting Rights Act was protected,

(29:42):
sure we can't even get it past now. So I mean,
there's so many layers to this, but I just say
that the people that you will always have better access
to are the people down ballot, so don't skip them.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Well, you are more than an inspiration. It has been
more than an honor.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I'm going to speak for both of u.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
It's been more than one hundred and finally talk to
you after bumping into in New Orleans and DC, and
now we get a chance to sit down and actually
have a real conversation. Just an absolute joy. Before you go,
make sure that for all those new folks that they
get all your social media's and everything that you got
going on.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yes, so I can be found it Jasmine for us
on all social media platforms.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Fantastic And of course this is a conversation that we'd
like to keep going. So for you, our listener, if
you want to chime in, you can do so using
the red microphone talkback feature on the iHeart radio app,
or you can find me on all social media at
Ramsey's Job.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I am q Ward on all social media as well.
And until next time, y'all, peace.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
This has been a production of the Black Information Network.
Today's show is produced by Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts
you'd like to share, use the red microphone talkback feature
on the iHeartRadio app. While you're there, be sure to
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