October 7, 2024 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here at the Black Information Network, we know how important
it is for you to start your week off energized, engaged,
and enlightened. There are always major stories that break over
the weekend, and we feel you should know about the
ones we are talking about today, So stay tuned for
our weekend recap featuring the author of the book Trap
History and the executive editor of Atlanta Daily World, Mister A. R.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Shaw. This is the Black.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Information Network Daily Podcast and I'm your host, Ramses Job.
All right, mister A. Rshaw, Welcome back to the show.
It's been a little over a month, but man, we
certainly miss you around here. Man, welcome back to what
you've been up to.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man, Man, a lot is happening inlight and it's that
one month of course, DNC, A Cord, CBC several major
breaks in the elections, So I'm ready to dive right
into it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Okay, Well, I won't keep you waiting. First up, this
is from your very own Atlanta Daily World. Team Harris
Walls has launched Athletes for Harris, a new campaign effort
to organize and mobilize athletes and coaches to campaign for
Team Harris Walls in the final sprint of the election.
Athletes are among the most trusted voices for key voting blocks,
especially young men, making them uniquely qualified campaigners for Vice
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President Harris and Governor Walls. Sporting events and games are
also key moments to draw in large and politically diverse audiences,
audiences that are increasing their reach with gen z and
younger men. This fall, Team Harris Walls will leverage these
moments and athletes to organize reach and make its case
to voters.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So talk to us a little bit about this.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, so it seems you know, what's interesting is that
the Harris Wats campaign has been doing a significant good
job of trying to reach those individuals in the sports space,
not only with the announcement of the athletes for Harris,
but I've covered multiple Hariss Harris Watt's tailgates, and so
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what they're doing is they do like tailgates before football games.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm here in Atlanta, and every.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Hours before each game they're having a tailgate where they
give out barbecue, you know, drinks, and they have like
a play area for kids. But the whole purpose is
to really get people engaged and informed about Team Harrison
and Walls. Last week, actually before the Sunday night football
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game which was considered. Uh it was a Thursday night
football game against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Anthony Anderson, he was there and he spoke to you know,
several of the fans got an opportunity, he signed autographs
to took pictures. And so we've seen this from the
Harris campaign. Uh, their attempt to really reach those male
voters that are you know, sometimes they just kind of
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not really you got to kind of push them to
really make them understand the importance of this election. And
so she's really trying to reach people where they are
and going to these sports and these athletic games and
reaching out to athletes. I think that's a major win
for for her campaign.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, you know, I was looking and I realized that.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
You know, obviously we know that black males are of
particular interest because black males either they are going to
vote for Harris. Of course, historically that's been a reliably
Democratic voting block. But in recent months, particularly when Joe
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Biden was the presumed Democratic nominee for president, we saw
the erosion of support of black males away from Joe Biden,
and we saw a good number of those would be
Biden voters increasing the numbers for Trump, and that was
very alarming to the Democrats, of course, And so you
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know with Kamala Harris understanding that that's taking place and
tapping names like Magic Johnson and Billy Jeane King and
Doc Rivers and Chris Paul to help get the messaging out.
And that's something that a lot of people have been
very critical of Democrats over because the Democrats won't brag
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when they should, and funnily enough, the Republicans will brag
over stuff they didn't have anything to do with. So
you know, this type of messaging I see where they're
being intelligent and they're and they're trying.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
To reach a specific group of people.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
In fact, this isn't the only thing because for me,
as of you know this conversation yesterday, I was at
an event and I was there with Q, you know,
my co host, but you know we were there with
Jessica Alba. So we were talking to her, just imagine that,
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and we were talking like Kerry Washington had a nice
long conversation with her. There are other politicians there too.
Michael Eely was there, so you know Q was talking
to him for a while. I guess they know it's acute.
Everybody knows Q. But you know, so all of these
these folk, Glenn Close was there of course, as I mentioned,
a lot of politicians are there as well, and so
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just being at these type of events in the name
of Kamala Harris to me suggests that they are leveraging their.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Supporters, particularly those that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Work in entertainment, you know, athletes is what we're talking
about now. But even these actors and these other high
profile individuals, they're rallying that support group and putting them
to work to get Kamala Harris elected. And they're doing
the messaging on behalf of the Harris campaign, which historically,
you know, a lot of people have been very critical
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of Democrats not saying here's what we've done for you,
and here's why we haven't done more. Please vote down ballot,
et cetera, et cetera. And so you know, I applaud this.
I mean, it's better than not doing it, So yeah,
I'll take it. Moving on this from indy one hundred
dot com Elon Musk, whose company X has long been
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accused of allowing hate to prosper on the platform, as
face criticism after falling for a fake article and claiming
those who push racism quote should be shunned quote, less
than twelve hours after he apologized for backing an anti
semitic tweet. Must share the comment on Saturday, which would
have been October fifth, in response to a fake article
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purporting to be from Pro Publica writer Emily Goldstein titled Yes,
diversity is about getting rid of white people and that's
a good thing, which states that the author is extremely
glad that the white race is dying and that white
people do not have a right to exist. Pro Publica
shared a statement condemning the hateful disinformation and stating Goldstein
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has never been employed by or contributed work to Thought
Catalog in an online blog. The person behind the post
was actually an online troll named Joshua Goldberg from Florida,
who in twenty nineteen admitted he was behind twenty seven
different Reddit accounts as well as the aforementioned article. Referring
to the article on diversity, he wrote in a Medium
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article quote, I assume the alt right would be stupid
enough to fall for it, and I assumed correctly.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Unquote Musk's point. I sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Musk's post has since been issued with a community note
pointing out his error, while his remarks about those pushing
racism needed to be shunned come less than a year
after he admitted he made a mistake in saying that
Jewish communities have a dialectical hatred of white people was
the actual truth. So anyway, this one is just it's
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so funny because it shows Elon Musk himself how gullible
and susceptible people are to disinformation and how easily shareable
it is, and indeed the fallout that it can cause,
and he just h nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You know, he could change all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He got a taste of his own medicine, and it's
still kind of standing in the middle of it.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Let's let's get your thoughts on this though, of course. Yeah, man,
it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You think about Elon Musk, someone who has the power
of one of the biggest social media platforms in the world,
and he's basically, you know, been incompetent, and how he's
handled it, pushing misinformation on multiple fronts. And so we've
seen not just with this incident, but we've seen multiple
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times where Elon Musk have you know, put out false
information on the X platform and so we you know,
a lot of people say that he bought this platform
to basically sway this election in Trump's favor, and you know,
we've seen him, you know, campaign for Trump things of
that nature. But when we look at the gist of
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things and what Elon stands for, we got to look
at his past. I mean, you think about you know,
in South Africa and what his father did to you know,
a lot of South Africans in terms of just the
brutality that a lot of South Africans faced under his father.
Even with Elon Musk and his current companies where several
black employees have stepped up and sued the company for racism.
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And so for someone like Elon to just say, you know,
racism should be shunned and things of that nature, we've
seen racist actions from him time at the time again.
And so hopefully we you know, after this election, uh,
you know, mce Trump loses, we're gonna we're gonna put
it out there, We're gonna see, uh, hopefully Elon go
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back to South Africa.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Wouldn't that be funny?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Well, in the meantime, he's he's suffering more immediate consequences
because I remember seeing that he lost advertisers as a
result of this, and you know, some people are just
kind of married to that platform. And the more time passes,
the more I kind of I kind of get it.
You know a lot of people that that's just they've
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built their following there, that's you know, a big part
of their careers and how they feed themselves. And it's
still a platform that does allow you to share information
and if if everyone abandons it, then it just becomes
an echo chamber for the alt right. So some people
do need to be there to at least provide access
to the truth.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Sure, but I know one thing is certain.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
As soon as he started letting that inward prosper on
that platform, as soon as he like took the reins,
you know, I was out, Civic Cipher was out, Q
was out, We were all the way out, you know,
And we were part of that kind of initial exodus
from that platform when he took over, just because we
could see the writing on the wall. It just doesn't
make sense to support something that is decidedly anti black
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in our estimation.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So you can catch us on fanbase.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
If my voice didn't matter, people wouldn't be trying so
hard to silence me, and if my vote didn't matter,
they wouldn't work so hard to take it away. So
you know why I'm voting this November because I know
they don't want me to.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
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and the Black Information Network.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Today's guest is the author of the book Trap History
and the executive editor of Atlanta Daily World, Mister A. R.
Shaw all Right. Next up from the Shade Room, Diddy's mom,
Janis Combs has issued her first statement about his legal woes.
Janis is breaking her silence amid her son's piling lawsuits,
which began with ex girlfriend Cassandra Cassie Ventura suing him
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in A Member of twenty twenty three. Meanwhile, Shawn Combs
is still sitting behind bars in Brooklyn, New York City,
on felony charges of sex trafficking, racketeering, and transportation to
engage in prostitution.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I come to you today as another that is devastated
and profoundly saddened. By the allegations made against my son,
Shawn Combs. It is heartbreaking to see my son judge
not for the truth, but for a narrative created out
of lies. To bear witness to what seems like a
public lynching of my son before he has had the
opportunity to prove his innocence is a pain too unbearable
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to put into words. Like every human being, my son
deserves to have his day in court, to finally share
his side and.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
To prove his innocence. Quote.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
As her statement continued, Janis Combs said, Sean is not perfect.
The mother acknowledged that Diddy lied about domestic violence, in
particular his assault on Cassie in twenty sixteen in a
hotel hallway. Quote Sometimes the truth and a lie becomes
so closely intertwined that it becomes terrifying to admit one
part of the story, especially when that truth is outside
the norm or it's too complicated to be believed this,
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Jennis said, adding that she believed he settled with Cassie
for those reasons and that the settlement is what caused
the domino effect to today's events and her statement. Janis
Combs also asserted that no one is immune from fear
or mistakes. She again said that Diddy's failure to disclose
the domestic violence doesn't automatically mean he's guilty of the
allegations in his indictment or active lawsuits. So somebody standing
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in Ditty's corner, it's his mom, So can't be mad
at her for that.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Let's get your thoughts here. Yeah, I mean she's right
and she's wrong. I think she's right there.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
He does deserve his day in court, and we should
let it play out from a legal standpoint, but we
should also listen.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
To the victims as well.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Where I think the biggest issue with this entireditty thing
is that there was no one to check him. There
was no one to actually stand up and say, look,
what should is wrong? And you know, you know, as parents,
a lot of parents don't really know what their kids
are doing at all at all times. But there should
have been some person, whether it's his mother or some
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mentor figure, that really put a stop to what Dedi
was doing. Because you got to understand, all of this
stuff has been happening for years. This didn't come out
now just because we're hearing about it. This has been
going on for years. And knowing that there are a
lot of people who enabled him. I think that's the
biggest issue is that there are so many people who
saw these things happen and saw the abuse, saw the
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drug use, and didn't say anything. It didn't really go
to dating and say, look, you have an empire that
could be basically crushed due to your actions. And I'm
not sure if anyone talked to him or his ego
didn't listen, but this is something that could have been
stopped years ago, and we would hope someone like his
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mother would be able to step in and say, look,
stop at the drug use, stop at the party, and
stop with the abuse, you know, stop with all of
these things, because now we're seeing that not just someone
not not the downfall of him personally, but the downfall
of his corporation and businesses and people who are employed
by him. You had to understand the impact of this.
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It's not just him going away, but it's all the
people who dependent on him for a paycheck for their
livelihood who are being impacted by his actions. And so,
like I said, his mother she was right and she's
wrong on this on her lady's statement, but we will
see how it plays out in court.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah. You know. The thing about.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
This, this thing in particular, and you know, it started
to like make me feel concerned when I saw something
similar happen to Jonathan Majors.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Is that.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's it's very easy for people to do one thing
willingly enthusiastically in a moment, and then after that moment
has passed, after the de facto consent has been given,
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or the verbal consent has been given, after the initiation
by them, after they've taken some action or otherwise engaged
in a moment willingly. I've seen that it's possible for
a person to then regret what they've done and then
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rewrite the story, twist the narrative to suggest that they
were not in control, that they weren't happy or excited,
or they weren't initial, whatever. And the fallout from that,
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especially if you're a person in a position of power,
in a position of authority, it feels like there's nothing
you can do because that narrative has shifted. And the
only reason I say this, the only reason I invoke
the name of Jonathan Majors, is not because there wasn't
a victim, because clearly there was a victim. It has
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been decided by the courts. That has now been the story,
and it will be okay. I'm not trying to rewrite
that at all. But what I saw was in the
middle of that, as we were recovering that, I saw
the video of him jumping out of the suv and
attempting to run away from the lady, you know, And
to me, that suggests he was trying to get away.
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That suggests that he was trying to diffuse the situa
or something like that. And I know that Diddy's story
and a lot all these other people's stories are different,
you know, every story is different, of course, But when
I see that, and then I guess tap into the
narrative that exists in you know, in you know, popular culture,
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which is that Jonathan Major's is this monster and he
beat this woman up and blah blah blah, which again,
according to the court records, all of that's true, but
that critical piece was missing in my mind, and that
critical piece was the video of him running away from her.
And I don't think, you know, just in terms of
like understanding what he was trying to convey and what
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she was trying to convey, I feel like the truth
lies somewhere in the middle, but often enough in you know,
the public.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
What is the word I'm looking for the court of
public opinion.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
We will decide that he is one hundred percent wrong,
she's one hundred percent of victim, and that's that. And
when I saw that video, I was like, oh, it's
more complicated than that, right, So when I look at
this Diddy story, I feel kind of some of those
same feelings. Of course, victims need to be treated accordingly
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and they need to be made whole, right, But there's
something like, you know, I talked about this before, the
thousand bottles of baby oil, Right, how does that sound?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So when I look at his mom saying this stuff,
I'm like, shoot, she might be honto something here, because
I'm a part of the public too, a public opinion,
and that thousand bottles of baby oil is something that's significant,
that's something we've talked about. It does make him look
like a monster, like an insatiable beast. Right. And then
I had a moment on the show where I was like,
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you know what, he was probably using that baby oil
to fill up.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Tubs or you know, kiddie pools, or for bood.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Wrestling, or oil wrestling or whatever, because that's the thing
that you do, right, and just adding that peace to
the narrative takes away that, oh my gosh, he's this
sensatiable monster that needs mountains of lubricant, and it turns
it into Okay, this guy was throwing parties that were
probably beyond the line that most people assumed that they were.
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But admittedly, for decades, going to a Diddy party was
a sign that you had made it, you had arrived,
you know, and a lot of the people that were
wanting to go, we're wanting to go and participate for
the very reasons that you know we're seeing in these reports.
They thought that they had access to X and Y
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and z.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I'm sure. And so when she says, you know that
he deserves his day in.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Court, I'm not taking anything away from victims.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I would never do that, okay, But.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm learning along with the rest of us that I
should not be so quick to judge people. And I
remember I got slapped in the face when I saw
that video of Jonathan Major is running away from that lady.
Again not saying he's right, he's clearly wrong. And it's
been decided by people that are way more informed than me.
I want to put that out there. But that video
certainly changed how I felt about it because instead of
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me simply feeling bad for the victim, I was like, shoot,
this is bad all the way around, you know. I mean,
I wasn't happy for anybody. These are sad stories. Indeed,
I don't want to see any black man suffer for
you know what I mean, unless they are like bad people.
Of course they deserve consequences, but I don't want to
see someone suffer unduly. And you know, typically if a
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man is strong and as you know, self assured, as
I believe Jonathan Major's to be, is running away from
a situation, then I need to rethink my approach to it.
So that's just kind of I'm taking his mom's comments
and I'm kind of reframed. I mean, how I'm positioning
Diddy in the world. So you know, we'll see what happens.
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You know, maybe there he's done the worst, most vile
things in the world. I saw the Cassie video. Obviously
there's no two ways about that. But she's saying, yes,
he did this, and that's why he chose to settle it.
And once the video came out everyone else felt like
they could have a payday, and you know that's all
in the rest of the article. Of course I didn't
get to that part, but but yeah, it's uh, you know,
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she said, just because one part is true doesn't make
the other part true. And he already kind of admitted
to that and settled that part because he knew that
part was true. So we the only thing we can
do is wait to hear from him and let the
courts decide and move from there. But at least in
terms of right now, I'm going to not hang him
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just yet. I'm going to try not to be unkind
or unfair to anybody just because I'm in this position.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It just feels like.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I need to do better at and I haven't reported
on it the wrong way. It's just, you know, I
feel a certain way, and I feel like maybe that
can translate in how I cover these things. So I'm
gonna try not to judge him because I'm not his judge.
I'm not in a jury, and I need to wait
for the facts the same as the rest of us.
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Our final story today comes from The Independent. Hines has
issued an apology after it came under fire for an
advertisement currently on display in a tube station in London.
The food company, known for its Ketchup mayonnaise and baked beans,
is recently under fire for launching and ad campaign for
its new family sized pasta sauces, and one controversial advertisement
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that has been seen in tube stations including Vauxhall and
Manor House, a family is seen in a wedding scenario.
The poster shows the bride, a black woman, smiling as
she scoops up a fork full of pasta, next to
a man who is presumably the groom. On her right
is an older man and woman who appeared to be
the groom's parents, and on her left is an older
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black woman who was supposedly meant to be her mother. People, however,
took issue with the fact that the bride's father is
not pictured, with many suggesting that the ad perpetuates negative
stereotypes about black fathers.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
So.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I know you saw this ad, right, Okay, So talk
to me about that. Yeah, So, I mean I think
the thing is this.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I mean, when I first saw it, I knew what
it was because I understand being in media. I've been
in the media for eighteen years and I understand what
happens in terms of how brands or you know, advertisement
advertisements are created.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
What happens is people sit.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Down in a room and then they go over you know,
different scripts and different images, and then they come to
a conclusion of what will be presented to the public.
Sure a lot of times in those rooms there aren't
any black people, so you know, you have you know,
rooms that aren't aware. So what this just shows that
there was this lack of awareness. There wasn't anyone in
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the room who saw that this was wrong, that this
was an issue. Uh, and we've seen it and we
see it all the time. So you know, when we
talk about THEI diversity, equity inclusion, it's been this misnoment
that THEI stands for giving someone a position that they
don't deserve, which is totally not true. What it is
is you need people in a room that's going to
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really give a voice to communities that have been underserved
for forever.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, blind spots, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
So it's so you know, and I noticed it when
I first saw it. I said, Okay, they didn't have
anyone black in that room or someone who understood the
culture and in that room at that time. Because it
only takes one person to look at that picture and say, oh,
hold up, you need a black man or black a
black father, a black father figure in this image before
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you put this out there. Now you're facing a backlash,
and so you think about the economic impact of that, right,
the economic impact of you're putting out this ad and
not being culturally sensitive to a group of people. Now
you're losing money right where you could have just hired
someone on your team that could have saved you millions
of dollars, but instead, you know, you forego that because
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of whatever. But it shows you the importance of the EIA.
And so I just want people to really understand that
this is what happens. This is what happens when you
lack diversity in these rooms. And so it'll continue to
happen as long as they continue to attack DEI, we
will see more companies losing money on the back end
because they wouldn't hire diverse individuals on the front end.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Sure, And I think that's the best way to say it,
when you say hire diverse individuals plural because everything you
said is spot on. One thing I would challenge people
to do is do more than hire just one person.
And I would even go further than that, hire and
promote and listen to black women in particular. Here's my
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reason for that, at least in this country, and I'm
sure to a large extent around the world, our households
historically have been shaped by a maternal figure very much
show So the culture, the child rearing, the you know,
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the rock you know in our world is often maternal.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And the vantage point is very different.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
That that woman could look at this ad and see
something that even I couldn't see because when I first
saw the ad, I saw the ad before I read
the article, and I knew that there would be something wrong,
and I didn't see it. And the reason is because
when I read the article and went back and looked
at the actual photo, I'm like, oh, well, what I
saw with symmetry six people on an ad is it's
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an even number, so you can't put a person in
the center. Five people allows you to put one person
in the center. So my artist brain, I guess, saw
that as Okay, this is centered on the bride enjoying
the pasta, you know, that's really it, and so you
need four people to flank her to kind of drive
home that it's a wedding and you want the people
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clutching their pearls to be the father's, you know, parents,
and then you want it to look like these are
this is a wedding setting, so you need someone representative
of the mother.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
And that's really as far as my thoughts went.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
So even if I had been the diversity higher in
the room, I could have very easily missed that, But
a black woman would be more likely to catch it
and say, you know what, our people have historically been
sensitive to X, Y, and Z, and here's here's my
contribution here, and that black woman in the scenario where
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I've placed myself in that room with the ad execs,
that black woman would have actually saved the company money,
where as someone like me might have overlooked it. And
believe me when I say, I know full well the
sensitivities that black people have. I've had the black experience,
but I have not felt it in the way that
a black woman could feel it, nor will I. I
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am not a black woman, right, but I know full
well that the CDC has debunked the myth that black
men are absent fathers. That was done in twenty fourteen
or twenty thirteen to study the results in twenty fourteen.
I know that you can google right now Black Dad's CDC,
as in Center for Disease Control. You can google it
(29:52):
right now, Black Dad's CDC, and you're going to see
all of the articles and all of the results that
have been published debunk the myth that we are absent fathers. Indeed,
you'll see that black men, in many categories, if not most,
are doing better than everyone else in the role of fatherhood.
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But that myth persists and has persisted, and our great
leaders have said to us that we need to stay
home and be in the home and be better fathers
and blah blah blah, which is true, because just because
we're doing better than everyone else doesn't mean we can't
do as best as we can do. And that's not
ignoring the and I don't want to ignore the fact
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that there are households where there is no father present. Absolutely,
but the myth that is tied to our people is
not well founded in this country. And I know that,
and I still would have missed this one. I just
wouldn't have put it together because my first mind didn't
even see it that way.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I saw symmetry.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I saw an ad that was trying to put a
concept into someone's mind. And so I think what I'm
trying to impress upon our listeners is that we should
always listen to black women. And if you don't have
no black women in the room with you, you're probably in
the wrong room. So I think I'll leave that one
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right there. That feels like a high to end the
show on. Thank you very much for your time and
your insight.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Once again. We shouldn't wait a month to do this again.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Man, I love talking to you, brother, So we'll talk
to Chris and figure out how to do it more frequently.
But again, thank you for your time once again. Today's
guest is the author of the book Trap History and
the executive editor of Atlanta Daily World, Mister aar Shaw.
This has been a production of the Black Information Network.
Today show is produced by Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
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Here at the Black Information Network, we know how important
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Shaw. This is the Black.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Information Network Daily Podcast and I'm your host, Ramses Job.
All right, mister A. Rshaw, Welcome back to the show.
It's been a little over a month, but man, we
certainly miss you around here. Man, welcome back to what
you've been up to.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man, Man, a lot is happening inlight and it's that
one month of course, DNC, A Cord, CBC several major
breaks in the elections, So I'm ready to dive right
into it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Okay, Well, I won't keep you waiting. First up, this
is from your very own Atlanta Daily World. Team Harris
Walls has launched Athletes for Harris, a new campaign effort
to organize and mobilize athletes and coaches to campaign for
Team Harris Walls in the final sprint of the election.
Athletes are among the most trusted voices for key voting blocks,
especially young men, making them uniquely qualified campaigners for Vice
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President Harris and Governor Walls. Sporting events and games are
also key moments to draw in large and politically diverse audiences,
audiences that are increasing their reach with gen z and
younger men. This fall, Team Harris Walls will leverage these
moments and athletes to organize reach and make its case
to voters.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So talk to us a little bit about this.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, so it seems you know, what's interesting is that
the Harris Wats campaign has been doing a significant good
job of trying to reach those individuals in the sports space,
not only with the announcement of the athletes for Harris,
but I've covered multiple Hariss Harris Watt's tailgates, and so
(01:57):
what they're doing is they do like tailgates before football games.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm here in Atlanta, and every.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Hours before each game they're having a tailgate where they
give out barbecue, you know, drinks, and they have like
a play area for kids. But the whole purpose is
to really get people engaged and informed about Team Harrison
and Walls. Last week, actually before the Sunday night football
(02:26):
game which was considered. Uh it was a Thursday night
football game against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Anthony Anderson, he was there and he spoke to you know,
several of the fans got an opportunity, he signed autographs
to took pictures. And so we've seen this from the
Harris campaign. Uh, their attempt to really reach those male
voters that are you know, sometimes they just kind of
(02:53):
not really you got to kind of push them to
really make them understand the importance of this election. And
so she's really trying to reach people where they are
and going to these sports and these athletic games and
reaching out to athletes. I think that's a major win
for for her campaign.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, you know, I was looking and I realized that.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
You know, obviously we know that black males are of
particular interest because black males either they are going to
vote for Harris. Of course, historically that's been a reliably
Democratic voting block. But in recent months, particularly when Joe
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Biden was the presumed Democratic nominee for president, we saw
the erosion of support of black males away from Joe Biden,
and we saw a good number of those would be
Biden voters increasing the numbers for Trump, and that was
very alarming to the Democrats, of course, And so you
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know with Kamala Harris understanding that that's taking place and
tapping names like Magic Johnson and Billy Jeane King and
Doc Rivers and Chris Paul to help get the messaging out.
And that's something that a lot of people have been
very critical of Democrats over because the Democrats won't brag
(04:19):
when they should, and funnily enough, the Republicans will brag
over stuff they didn't have anything to do with. So
you know, this type of messaging I see where they're
being intelligent and they're and they're trying.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
To reach a specific group of people.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
In fact, this isn't the only thing because for me,
as of you know this conversation yesterday, I was at
an event and I was there with Q, you know,
my co host, but you know we were there with
Jessica Alba. So we were talking to her, just imagine that,
(04:57):
and we were talking like Kerry Washington had a nice
long conversation with her. There are other politicians there too.
Michael Eely was there, so you know Q was talking
to him for a while. I guess they know it's acute.
Everybody knows Q. But you know, so all of these
these folk, Glenn Close was there of course, as I mentioned,
a lot of politicians are there as well, and so
(05:18):
just being at these type of events in the name
of Kamala Harris to me suggests that they are leveraging their.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Supporters, particularly those that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Work in entertainment, you know, athletes is what we're talking
about now. But even these actors and these other high
profile individuals, they're rallying that support group and putting them
to work to get Kamala Harris elected. And they're doing
the messaging on behalf of the Harris campaign, which historically,
you know, a lot of people have been very critical
(05:51):
of Democrats not saying here's what we've done for you,
and here's why we haven't done more. Please vote down ballot,
et cetera, et cetera. And so you know, I applaud this.
I mean, it's better than not doing it, So yeah,
I'll take it. Moving on this from indy one hundred
dot com Elon Musk, whose company X has long been
(06:14):
accused of allowing hate to prosper on the platform, as
face criticism after falling for a fake article and claiming
those who push racism quote should be shunned quote, less
than twelve hours after he apologized for backing an anti
semitic tweet. Must share the comment on Saturday, which would
have been October fifth, in response to a fake article
(06:35):
purporting to be from Pro Publica writer Emily Goldstein titled Yes,
diversity is about getting rid of white people and that's
a good thing, which states that the author is extremely
glad that the white race is dying and that white
people do not have a right to exist. Pro Publica
shared a statement condemning the hateful disinformation and stating Goldstein
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has never been employed by or contributed work to Thought
Catalog in an online blog. The person behind the post
was actually an online troll named Joshua Goldberg from Florida,
who in twenty nineteen admitted he was behind twenty seven
different Reddit accounts as well as the aforementioned article. Referring
to the article on diversity, he wrote in a Medium
(07:19):
article quote, I assume the alt right would be stupid
enough to fall for it, and I assumed correctly.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Unquote Musk's point. I sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Musk's post has since been issued with a community note
pointing out his error, while his remarks about those pushing
racism needed to be shunned come less than a year
after he admitted he made a mistake in saying that
Jewish communities have a dialectical hatred of white people was
the actual truth. So anyway, this one is just it's
(07:53):
so funny because it shows Elon Musk himself how gullible
and susceptible people are to disinformation and how easily shareable
it is, and indeed the fallout that it can cause,
and he just h nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You know, he could change all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He got a taste of his own medicine, and it's
still kind of standing in the middle of it.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Let's let's get your thoughts on this though, of course. Yeah, man,
it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You think about Elon Musk, someone who has the power
of one of the biggest social media platforms in the world,
and he's basically, you know, been incompetent, and how he's
handled it, pushing misinformation on multiple fronts. And so we've
seen not just with this incident, but we've seen multiple
(08:42):
times where Elon Musk have you know, put out false
information on the X platform and so we you know,
a lot of people say that he bought this platform
to basically sway this election in Trump's favor, and you know,
we've seen him, you know, campaign for Trump things of
that nature. But when we look at the gist of
(09:04):
things and what Elon stands for, we got to look
at his past. I mean, you think about you know,
in South Africa and what his father did to you know,
a lot of South Africans in terms of just the
brutality that a lot of South Africans faced under his father.
Even with Elon Musk and his current companies where several
black employees have stepped up and sued the company for racism.
(09:25):
And so for someone like Elon to just say, you know,
racism should be shunned and things of that nature, we've
seen racist actions from him time at the time again.
And so hopefully we you know, after this election, uh,
you know, mce Trump loses, we're gonna we're gonna put
it out there, We're gonna see, uh, hopefully Elon go
(09:46):
back to South Africa.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Wouldn't that be funny?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Well, in the meantime, he's he's suffering more immediate consequences
because I remember seeing that he lost advertisers as a
result of this, and you know, some people are just
kind of married to that platform. And the more time passes,
the more I kind of I kind of get it.
You know a lot of people that that's just they've
(10:12):
built their following there, that's you know, a big part
of their careers and how they feed themselves. And it's
still a platform that does allow you to share information
and if if everyone abandons it, then it just becomes
an echo chamber for the alt right. So some people
do need to be there to at least provide access
to the truth.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Sure, but I know one thing is certain.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
As soon as he started letting that inward prosper on
that platform, as soon as he like took the reins,
you know, I was out, Civic Cipher was out, Q
was out, We were all the way out, you know,
And we were part of that kind of initial exodus
from that platform when he took over, just because we
could see the writing on the wall. It just doesn't
make sense to support something that is decidedly anti black
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in our estimation.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So you can catch us on fanbase.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
If my voice didn't matter, people wouldn't be trying so
hard to silence me, and if my vote didn't matter,
they wouldn't work so hard to take it away. So
you know why I'm voting this November because I know
they don't want me to.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Your voice is powerful, Your voice matters. Don't let your
voice be silenced. To register, confirm your voting status, or
get information about voting in your area, visit vote dot gov.
That's vote dot goov. A message from the Perception Institute
and the Black Information Network.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Today's guest is the author of the book Trap History
and the executive editor of Atlanta Daily World, Mister A. R.
Shaw all Right. Next up from the Shade Room, Diddy's mom,
Janis Combs has issued her first statement about his legal woes.
Janis is breaking her silence amid her son's piling lawsuits,
which began with ex girlfriend Cassandra Cassie Ventura suing him
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in A Member of twenty twenty three. Meanwhile, Shawn Combs
is still sitting behind bars in Brooklyn, New York City,
on felony charges of sex trafficking, racketeering, and transportation to
engage in prostitution.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I come to you today as another that is devastated
and profoundly saddened. By the allegations made against my son,
Shawn Combs. It is heartbreaking to see my son judge
not for the truth, but for a narrative created out
of lies. To bear witness to what seems like a
public lynching of my son before he has had the
opportunity to prove his innocence is a pain too unbearable
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to put into words. Like every human being, my son
deserves to have his day in court, to finally share
his side and.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
To prove his innocence. Quote.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
As her statement continued, Janis Combs said, Sean is not perfect.
The mother acknowledged that Diddy lied about domestic violence, in
particular his assault on Cassie in twenty sixteen in a
hotel hallway. Quote Sometimes the truth and a lie becomes
so closely intertwined that it becomes terrifying to admit one
part of the story, especially when that truth is outside
the norm or it's too complicated to be believed this,
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Jennis said, adding that she believed he settled with Cassie
for those reasons and that the settlement is what caused
the domino effect to today's events and her statement. Janis
Combs also asserted that no one is immune from fear
or mistakes. She again said that Diddy's failure to disclose
the domestic violence doesn't automatically mean he's guilty of the
allegations in his indictment or active lawsuits. So somebody standing
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in Ditty's corner, it's his mom, So can't be mad
at her for that.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Let's get your thoughts here. Yeah, I mean she's right
and she's wrong. I think she's right there.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
He does deserve his day in court, and we should
let it play out from a legal standpoint, but we
should also listen.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
To the victims as well.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Where I think the biggest issue with this entireditty thing
is that there was no one to check him. There
was no one to actually stand up and say, look,
what should is wrong? And you know, you know, as parents,
a lot of parents don't really know what their kids
are doing at all at all times. But there should
have been some person, whether it's his mother or some
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mentor figure, that really put a stop to what Dedi
was doing. Because you got to understand, all of this
stuff has been happening for years. This didn't come out
now just because we're hearing about it. This has been
going on for years. And knowing that there are a
lot of people who enabled him. I think that's the
biggest issue is that there are so many people who
saw these things happen and saw the abuse, saw the
(14:35):
drug use, and didn't say anything. It didn't really go
to dating and say, look, you have an empire that
could be basically crushed due to your actions. And I'm
not sure if anyone talked to him or his ego
didn't listen, but this is something that could have been
stopped years ago, and we would hope someone like his
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mother would be able to step in and say, look,
stop at the drug use, stop at the party, and
stop with the abuse, you know, stop with all of
these things, because now we're seeing that not just someone
not not the downfall of him personally, but the downfall
of his corporation and businesses and people who are employed
by him. You had to understand the impact of this.
(15:15):
It's not just him going away, but it's all the
people who dependent on him for a paycheck for their
livelihood who are being impacted by his actions. And so,
like I said, his mother she was right and she's
wrong on this on her lady's statement, but we will
see how it plays out in court.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah. You know. The thing about.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
This, this thing in particular, and you know, it started
to like make me feel concerned when I saw something
similar happen to Jonathan Majors.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Is that.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's it's very easy for people to do one thing
willingly enthusiastically in a moment, and then after that moment
has passed, after the de facto consent has been given,
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or the verbal consent has been given, after the initiation
by them, after they've taken some action or otherwise engaged
in a moment willingly. I've seen that it's possible for
a person to then regret what they've done and then
(16:49):
rewrite the story, twist the narrative to suggest that they
were not in control, that they weren't happy or excited,
or they weren't initial, whatever. And the fallout from that,
(17:12):
especially if you're a person in a position of power,
in a position of authority, it feels like there's nothing
you can do because that narrative has shifted. And the
only reason I say this, the only reason I invoke
the name of Jonathan Majors, is not because there wasn't
a victim, because clearly there was a victim. It has
(17:33):
been decided by the courts. That has now been the story,
and it will be okay. I'm not trying to rewrite
that at all. But what I saw was in the
middle of that, as we were recovering that, I saw
the video of him jumping out of the suv and
attempting to run away from the lady, you know, And
to me, that suggests he was trying to get away.
(17:57):
That suggests that he was trying to diffuse the situa
or something like that. And I know that Diddy's story
and a lot all these other people's stories are different,
you know, every story is different, of course, But when
I see that, and then I guess tap into the
narrative that exists in you know, in you know, popular culture,
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which is that Jonathan Major's is this monster and he
beat this woman up and blah blah blah, which again,
according to the court records, all of that's true, but
that critical piece was missing in my mind, and that
critical piece was the video of him running away from her.
And I don't think, you know, just in terms of
like understanding what he was trying to convey and what
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she was trying to convey, I feel like the truth
lies somewhere in the middle, but often enough in you know,
the public.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
What is the word I'm looking for the court of
public opinion.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
We will decide that he is one hundred percent wrong,
she's one hundred percent of victim, and that's that. And
when I saw that video, I was like, oh, it's
more complicated than that, right, So when I look at
this Diddy story, I feel kind of some of those
same feelings. Of course, victims need to be treated accordingly
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and they need to be made whole, right, But there's
something like, you know, I talked about this before, the
thousand bottles of baby oil, Right, how does that sound?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So when I look at his mom saying this stuff,
I'm like, shoot, she might be honto something here, because
I'm a part of the public too, a public opinion,
and that thousand bottles of baby oil is something that's significant,
that's something we've talked about. It does make him look
like a monster, like an insatiable beast. Right. And then
I had a moment on the show where I was like,
(19:50):
you know what, he was probably using that baby oil
to fill up.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Tubs or you know, kiddie pools, or for bood.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Wrestling, or oil wrestling or whatever, because that's the thing
that you do, right, and just adding that peace to
the narrative takes away that, oh my gosh, he's this
sensatiable monster that needs mountains of lubricant, and it turns
it into Okay, this guy was throwing parties that were
probably beyond the line that most people assumed that they were.
(20:21):
But admittedly, for decades, going to a Diddy party was
a sign that you had made it, you had arrived,
you know, and a lot of the people that were
wanting to go, we're wanting to go and participate for
the very reasons that you know we're seeing in these reports.
They thought that they had access to X and Y
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and z.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I'm sure. And so when she says, you know that
he deserves his day in.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Court, I'm not taking anything away from victims.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I would never do that, okay, But.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm learning along with the rest of us that I
should not be so quick to judge people. And I
remember I got slapped in the face when I saw
that video of Jonathan Major is running away from that lady.
Again not saying he's right, he's clearly wrong. And it's
been decided by people that are way more informed than me.
I want to put that out there. But that video
certainly changed how I felt about it because instead of
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me simply feeling bad for the victim, I was like, shoot,
this is bad all the way around, you know. I mean,
I wasn't happy for anybody. These are sad stories. Indeed,
I don't want to see any black man suffer for
you know what I mean, unless they are like bad people.
Of course they deserve consequences, but I don't want to
see someone suffer unduly. And you know, typically if a
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man is strong and as you know, self assured, as
I believe Jonathan Major's to be, is running away from
a situation, then I need to rethink my approach to it.
So that's just kind of I'm taking his mom's comments
and I'm kind of reframed. I mean, how I'm positioning
Diddy in the world. So you know, we'll see what happens.
(22:05):
You know, maybe there he's done the worst, most vile
things in the world. I saw the Cassie video. Obviously
there's no two ways about that. But she's saying, yes,
he did this, and that's why he chose to settle it.
And once the video came out everyone else felt like
they could have a payday, and you know that's all
in the rest of the article. Of course I didn't
get to that part, but but yeah, it's uh, you know,
(22:27):
she said, just because one part is true doesn't make
the other part true. And he already kind of admitted
to that and settled that part because he knew that
part was true. So we the only thing we can
do is wait to hear from him and let the
courts decide and move from there. But at least in
terms of right now, I'm going to not hang him
(22:49):
just yet. I'm going to try not to be unkind
or unfair to anybody just because I'm in this position.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It just feels like.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I need to do better at and I haven't reported
on it the wrong way. It's just, you know, I
feel a certain way, and I feel like maybe that
can translate in how I cover these things. So I'm
gonna try not to judge him because I'm not his judge.
I'm not in a jury, and I need to wait
for the facts the same as the rest of us.
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Our final story today comes from The Independent. Hines has
issued an apology after it came under fire for an
advertisement currently on display in a tube station in London.
The food company, known for its Ketchup mayonnaise and baked beans,
is recently under fire for launching and ad campaign for
its new family sized pasta sauces, and one controversial advertisement
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that has been seen in tube stations including Vauxhall and
Manor House, a family is seen in a wedding scenario.
The poster shows the bride, a black woman, smiling as
she scoops up a fork full of pasta, next to
a man who is presumably the groom. On her right
is an older man and woman who appeared to be
the groom's parents, and on her left is an older
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black woman who was supposedly meant to be her mother. People, however,
took issue with the fact that the bride's father is
not pictured, with many suggesting that the ad perpetuates negative
stereotypes about black fathers.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
So.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I know you saw this ad, right, Okay, So talk
to me about that. Yeah, So, I mean I think
the thing is this.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I mean, when I first saw it, I knew what
it was because I understand being in media. I've been
in the media for eighteen years and I understand what
happens in terms of how brands or you know, advertisement
advertisements are created.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
What happens is people sit.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Down in a room and then they go over you know,
different scripts and different images, and then they come to
a conclusion of what will be presented to the public.
Sure a lot of times in those rooms there aren't
any black people, so you know, you have you know,
rooms that aren't aware. So what this just shows that
there was this lack of awareness. There wasn't anyone in
(24:59):
the room who saw that this was wrong, that this
was an issue. Uh, and we've seen it and we
see it all the time. So you know, when we
talk about THEI diversity, equity inclusion, it's been this misnoment
that THEI stands for giving someone a position that they
don't deserve, which is totally not true. What it is
is you need people in a room that's going to
(25:19):
really give a voice to communities that have been underserved
for forever.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, blind spots, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
So it's so you know, and I noticed it when
I first saw it. I said, Okay, they didn't have
anyone black in that room or someone who understood the
culture and in that room at that time. Because it
only takes one person to look at that picture and say, oh,
hold up, you need a black man or black a
black father, a black father figure in this image before
(25:50):
you put this out there. Now you're facing a backlash,
and so you think about the economic impact of that, right,
the economic impact of you're putting out this ad and
not being culturally sensitive to a group of people. Now
you're losing money right where you could have just hired
someone on your team that could have saved you millions
of dollars, but instead, you know, you forego that because
(26:14):
of whatever. But it shows you the importance of the EIA.
And so I just want people to really understand that
this is what happens. This is what happens when you
lack diversity in these rooms. And so it'll continue to
happen as long as they continue to attack DEI, we
will see more companies losing money on the back end
because they wouldn't hire diverse individuals on the front end.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Sure, And I think that's the best way to say it,
when you say hire diverse individuals plural because everything you
said is spot on. One thing I would challenge people
to do is do more than hire just one person.
And I would even go further than that, hire and
promote and listen to black women in particular. Here's my
(27:04):
reason for that, at least in this country, and I'm
sure to a large extent around the world, our households
historically have been shaped by a maternal figure very much
show So the culture, the child rearing, the you know,
(27:28):
the rock you know in our world is often maternal.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And the vantage point is very different.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
That that woman could look at this ad and see
something that even I couldn't see because when I first
saw the ad, I saw the ad before I read
the article, and I knew that there would be something wrong,
and I didn't see it. And the reason is because
when I read the article and went back and looked
at the actual photo, I'm like, oh, well, what I
saw with symmetry six people on an ad is it's
(28:08):
an even number, so you can't put a person in
the center. Five people allows you to put one person
in the center. So my artist brain, I guess, saw
that as Okay, this is centered on the bride enjoying
the pasta, you know, that's really it, and so you
need four people to flank her to kind of drive
home that it's a wedding and you want the people
(28:30):
clutching their pearls to be the father's, you know, parents,
and then you want it to look like these are
this is a wedding setting, so you need someone representative
of the mother.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
And that's really as far as my thoughts went.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
So even if I had been the diversity higher in
the room, I could have very easily missed that, But
a black woman would be more likely to catch it
and say, you know what, our people have historically been
sensitive to X, Y, and Z, and here's here's my
contribution here, and that black woman in the scenario where
(29:06):
I've placed myself in that room with the ad execs,
that black woman would have actually saved the company money,
where as someone like me might have overlooked it. And
believe me when I say, I know full well the
sensitivities that black people have. I've had the black experience,
but I have not felt it in the way that
a black woman could feel it, nor will I. I
(29:29):
am not a black woman, right, but I know full
well that the CDC has debunked the myth that black
men are absent fathers. That was done in twenty fourteen
or twenty thirteen to study the results in twenty fourteen.
I know that you can google right now Black Dad's CDC,
as in Center for Disease Control. You can google it
(29:52):
right now, Black Dad's CDC, and you're going to see
all of the articles and all of the results that
have been published debunk the myth that we are absent fathers. Indeed,
you'll see that black men, in many categories, if not most,
are doing better than everyone else in the role of fatherhood.
(30:13):
But that myth persists and has persisted, and our great
leaders have said to us that we need to stay
home and be in the home and be better fathers
and blah blah blah, which is true, because just because
we're doing better than everyone else doesn't mean we can't
do as best as we can do. And that's not
ignoring the and I don't want to ignore the fact
(30:33):
that there are households where there is no father present. Absolutely,
but the myth that is tied to our people is
not well founded in this country. And I know that,
and I still would have missed this one. I just
wouldn't have put it together because my first mind didn't
even see it that way.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I saw symmetry.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I saw an ad that was trying to put a
concept into someone's mind. And so I think what I'm
trying to impress upon our listeners is that we should
always listen to black women. And if you don't have
no black women in the room with you, you're probably in
the wrong room. So I think I'll leave that one
(31:15):
right there. That feels like a high to end the
show on. Thank you very much for your time and
your insight.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Once again. We shouldn't wait a month to do this again.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Man, I love talking to you, brother, So we'll talk
to Chris and figure out how to do it more frequently.
But again, thank you for your time once again. Today's
guest is the author of the book Trap History and
the executive editor of Atlanta Daily World, Mister aar Shaw.
This has been a production of the Black Information Network.
Today show is produced by Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts
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