June 10, 2025 • 42 mins
Ryan and Saagar discuss Trump sends marines to LA, poll shows immigration Trump's strongest issue.
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A lot of people enjoyed that.
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Speaker 1 (01:30):
Let me the show bar. All right, this is the
tough part of the show. Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We're going to talk about some of the overnight developments there.
The big top line news is President Donald Trump mobilizing
several hundred United States Marines active duty service members, sending
him to Los Angeles for some sort of law enforcement
support mission. Still a lot of questions surrounding that. We're
going to show you some of the video and other things.
Clashes breaking out between lapd between protesters, last night there
(01:54):
was some looting as well, so we'll show everybody some
of the images. We're going to talk about a little
bit polling. I teased that yesterday there's been some CBS
News widespread polling about Donald Trump and immigration. This is
a big segment of our discussion yesterday with Crystal over
the popularity of Trump's program and also just broadly why
a lot of this fight is being picked. Right now,
we're gonna talk about Palantineer. This is a story that
(02:14):
I missed, but Ryan, you're really going to be driving
this one. This is Laura Lumer is getting involved. Tim
Dillon is alleging that there's widespread buying off of influencers
regarding Palenteer.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, he really is the George carl I think he's
the George Carlin of our generation.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I said that yesterday China, We're going to give everybody,
and I know this is flying under the radar, but
it's tremendously important. United States and China negotiators met in
London yesterday just for the second round of trade talks.
Everybody's basically on pins and needles on what the hell
is going to happen here? The tariffs were off while
I was gone. Thank you, President Trump for removing the
crisis that you caused.
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Many car seat.
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Owners, however, have not yet shocker right, you will be
shocked to learn that car seat prices, stroller prices, and
all that did not go down even though the tariffs
went on.
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We're going to read, sure it's a main stroller manufacturing.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Ninety nine percent of car seats are made in China.
You know that. Ninety nine safety?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And also you know another thing I learned recently is
you know, these car seats don't even last that long.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You can't donate them, right, like because and it's like
maybe I'm maybe cartel.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I think this is too safetiest, but like, you can't
donate a car seat. I mean, if you're in a
car wreck, that's one thing, But if you have a
perfectly good car seat, it really can't give it to somebody,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I think that's Nuts's corret. Sorry, I think it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm sure I'm gonna have parenting Twitter and all those
people coming after me.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I get it, I get it. I just I think
it's wrong with you.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Okay, good, I'm glad they do all right. The only
reason not to want to use car seat is because
they shit all over them.
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But that's a whole other story.
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in my life theo Von This is the segment.
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Unfortunately we're not able to get to you.
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Yesterday we had our Gaza Flotilla guest, and of course
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we're there's gonna be a couple of clips that we
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that came over the weekend, some interesting moments in particular
the d n C. I'm really excited for Ryan to
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is just I mean, I know it's fun to dunk
(04:09):
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companies out there. Extraordinary news there, Ryan, I'm out of
Los Angeles from President Trump. You know. It's actually a
little bit crazy because literally moments before that announcement was made,
Trump had actually given a statement where he had I
wouldn't say it ruled out per se of sending in
(07:26):
the Marines, but he's like, I think that we have
it more under control. I have a few more details
that I can say. So it's a little complicated the
way this is being done. Trump has not invoked the
Insurrection Act, So this is from US Northern Command. They
say they have quote activated the Marine Infantry Battalion that
was placed in an alert status over the weekend. Seven
hundred Marines with second Battalion, seventh Marines' first Marine Division
(07:47):
will seamlessly integrate with the title ten forces under Task
Force fifty one who are protecting federal personnel and property
in the Greater Los Angeles area. The activation of the
Marines is intended to provide Task Force fifty one with
the adequate numbers of forces to provide continuous coverage of
the area in support of the lead federal agency.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Task Force fifty.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
One provides a rapidly deployable capability to partner with civil
authorities and deity entities in response to homeland defense and
homeland security operations. So effectively, what they are saying is
that these seven hundred active duty Marines are being placed
under the same Task Force fifty one, which is basically
now comprised of the twenty one hundred National Guardsmen that
(08:29):
were mobilized by Trump previously, as well as these seven
hundred Marines, basically to supplement that mission. It does not
appear from what I can see in front of me
is that they will be quote, they have been trained
in de escalation, crowd control, and standing rules for the
use of force that are similar under the National Guardsmen. Effectively,
it's like using active duty soldiers as National guardsmen here
(08:51):
in the fourth I'm not trying to downplay it. I'm
just genuinely confused because this is such an extraordinary situation.
I mean, I actually cannot think really of the last
time that active duty US military members were actually deployed,
you know, without the consent and actually without the not
only the consent, but like the invitation right of the
governor of a state that was already pretty extraordinary. Not
happened since nineteen sixty five under LBJ, And so this
(09:15):
time around, I mean, it is difficult to contextualize. The
Marines have not yet arrived, we don't really know what
they're doing. But the image nonetheless is going to be
I mean shocking. It's a shocking development here from Donald
especially considering I mean, we will show people video from
last night, but I mean, but from by all accounts,
it does not appear to have been worse than the
previous two days of some of the rioting of protesting
(09:36):
that was happening in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
It's less yeah, yeah, and maybe they're like planning their
amphibious landing on Venice Beach or whatever wind up in
downtown Los Angeles. Let's start with a four before we
get into some of the other images.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
A four.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
This is Gavin Newsom saying that he's going to sue
the federal government.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's for you know what.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
On the one hand, you could dismiss as you know,
procedural or paperwork arguments. On the other hand, you could
say that this is you know, goes to the fundamental
nature of power sharing between the states and the federal government.
He calls it quote an unprecedented power graph. He argues
multiple things. One, he says the getting the National Guard
deployed was invalid because there is no insurrection, there is
(10:20):
no rebellion. It's just it's just a protest, and that
no kind of it's not the kind of protest that
the cops haven't been able to handle over many decades
and over the history of the United States. And he
also says that the law requires that you work with
the governor and that the governor be the one that
(10:41):
deploys the National Guard, and that's not just paperwork, because
what it does is it requires the buy in of
both entities. It keeps everyone together. If the government written
large is defined by its monopolization of the use of force.
If you now have a upily where you know, you've
(11:02):
got National Guard, you've got some members over here who
are responsible to this state actor, and then you've got
another state actor that also has men and women under arms,
and you're sending them into the same streets. You know,
that's that's not how this is envisioned to go.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, so you know, as you said, with some of
the images, let's go ahead and put some of these
up there on the screen. I'll just kind of narrate
kind of what we see here. This is just some
collated footage that we see. I want everybody to keep
in mind that everything you're seeing here is LAPD, who
as I said yesterday, I mean, look, I think one
of the distinguishing characteristics between this and BLM is that
(11:38):
I said previously, I don't think that democratic leaders are
like really justifying a lot of this going on right now.
In fact, you know, LAPD, as you can all see,
is like pretty ready to rock and roll from what
we see right now. I mean, the justification appears to
be that this would free up LAPD resources. But you
can see here right now, you know, this was after
I believe that there was like a declared online assembly yesterday.
(12:01):
People are not heating Crystal's warning and they do continue
to wave Mexican flags there in the streets of Los Angeles.
Here we had some we had some looting and several
retail establishments. Of course, people very very upset at over
immigration detention, just like they were over George Floyd, which
is why Apple stores and Adidas rep places.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Have to be looted.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But as you can see, you know, in front of you,
there are several arrests and other things that have taken
place that does look like police it is. This is
another thing that's just so difficult to distinguish when the
police start to gear up in military camo. I mean,
this is something that goes all the way back to
Ferguson with the militarization of a lot of American police forces.
(12:41):
Like when you literally can't even tell and you have
to look the shield as to what it is, we shouldn't,
you know, overplay it either. There were a lot of
peaceful protests that happened in the streets of Los Angeles.
As you can see in front of you. There were
marches that happened in some of the streets as well
as across the United States and several different pockets around
that was happening. This is getting quite a bit of attention.
These were some images that were tweeted out by Governor
(13:03):
Gavin Newsom of National guardsmen who were sleeping on the floor.
This was Governor Newsom's critique here saying that Trump basically,
you know, sent the National Guard in without proper planning
and without proper planning or resources. It is funny, because
I'm not funny for the people to the floor, that's terrible.
(13:24):
But actually I do remember that this was a similar
controversy here in Washington after the January sixth riots. If
you'll remember, we were living in the Green Zone Ryan
after January six here in Washington, and I distinctly remember
walking by parking garages and just seeing like a thousand
guys sleeping on the floor in January in a park,
cold concrete in January. You know, they were definitely here
(13:46):
for what exactly, So because of a qwanon Ryot, I
feel kind of similarly about this. I mean, there's no
real reason at least in my opinion, outside of optics.
But we will get to the polling for a lot
of this. But I mean, I think it fits with
a lot of the Trump administrations straps, inviting fights over
you know, basically extraordinary uses of power, and in this
particular case, trying to pick a fight where he does
(14:07):
believe he feels strongest politically. And part of the reason
for that is we talked a lot about this yesterday.
I'm curious what you think is that. I think it's
really important to contextualize what's happening in Los Angeles. But
it's also important to contextualize that probably ninety percent of
the country has never been to Los Angeles, maybe even
ninety five percent of the country. So when you are
in Pittsburgh or Detroit, or Georgia or Charlotte, North Carolina,
(14:33):
any of these places, you don't know anything about LA.
All you're watching is the video about what's happening over there.
And with images like this, regardless when you're watching CNN,
Fox or anything, you're going to be seeing the Mexican flag,
you're going to be seeing some of the or if
you're on social media, you're going to be seeing some
of the looting. You may even be seeing some of
the peaceful protesting and all of that as well, but
you are going to get the impression that things are
really hot and on fire in the city, and that
(14:56):
means that drawing attention to that and then the conflagration
surrounding it at an level is really one that Donald
Trump is inviting.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And there's a bunch of discussion kind of in the
center left around the question of how smart are the
protests for Democrats or how smart are the protests for
opposition to Trump, which ignores the fact that doesn't matter
what anybody thinks, like this is not a centralized, like
Soros planned thing.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Well you should speak on that, because there is actually
a lot of right wingers who do believe that this
is like massively or by the way, I've always found
that incredibly stupid, Like there's this theory in the right
that every left wing protest is like organized and supported
by NGO. Now, I won't deny that these people don't
have email lists or whatever bust people in or any
of that, but I mean, I was living here in
(15:44):
the city during BLM. I can pretty much just guarantee
you that it wasn't because of organization. I mean I
think it was like again, literally people being at home,
mass psychosis, just believing in this cause. Whatever I find,
we've litigated that to that. My point though, is that
I don't think anybody for us, my white liberal neighbors,
to all go out into the streets. Oh exactly, for Bilam,
they went because they were upset. I think people are
(16:06):
upset here too. I think it's fine. You know, we
live in democracy, it's right.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And the different groups that get tagged as being central
to these these protests happening had the same budget ten
years ago, two years ago, you know, six months ago.
Yet they didn't weren't able to get people out on
the streets because right, sure you can get and you know,
when it's like an NGO protest, everyone there is wearing
(16:29):
the same T shirts. There's like forty five people, they
all know each other, they're on the clock. Yes, yeah,
so those are literal paid protesters, but nobody has the
money to go beyond like a couple dozen of those
kinds of people. You need an actual spark, and you
need gasoline, and then you get people out onto the
streets and what the Trump administration has been doing was
(16:54):
effectively guaranteed to create this reaction and arguably designed to
create this reaction because they love it, Like they absolutely
adore these images that they're getting. Let's let's Trump do
the thing he's really wanted to do. Send in the Marines.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, well, there is real like on the right in particular,
there's still a lot of anger about the way that
the BLM protests we're.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Going to restorel well, I mean, you can smash it.
It's bi directional.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Nobody's forcing people to loot Adidas in Apple stores, Okay,
and every person who does. You know, all right, you
know it's not twenty twenty anymore. You don't have CNN
panels talking about riot is the voice of the unheard.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Everyone's like, you're kind of an idiot and you're going
to jail.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
But I will say, you know, on that front, that's
this whole like tone policing around protesters.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I don't know. I still think it's important.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Actually, I think it's important for opinion leaders and others
to learn lessons politically and for people to recognize, like, hey,
this is really bad. Like well, I mean, on January
sixth and all that there was at least what a.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Two year or three year period were really like, yeah,
you know, like that didn't turn out so well for us.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
It ended up being fine, I guess in the end,
and people largely forgot about it. But I mean, I
don't think we could deny that. In twenty twenty two.
If you remember a lot of the more like Jen
six adjacent Republicans who ran, they all lost, right, I mean,
Doug Mastriano, David Purdue, remember a day against Raffensburger.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
We had Brian Kemp survive.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Like it was important actually in its time to not
necessarily carry Lake, you know, to be a peer as
one of these people who saved degress extreme. It gave
Democrats the United States Senate. And that's arguably the reason
that what we have, like the inflation reductionists so many
ten pulp, whether you like them or not, that is
actually did have an impact.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Sure it didn't end up having in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
But anyway, I do think like that level of people
advising them to be smarter or whatever, I don't think
it's a bad idea because sure maybe some Mexican flag
waivers are always going to do it. But it does
matter to have like a top down kind of commentariat
telling people and be like this is not good, Like
you are inviting your own destruction to a certain extent,
(19:00):
and I think people like you and Crystal I have
spoken up against that destruction and you're like, that's not
what we want to see. So just don't give people
what they want, which is generally a good ruin politics.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
By the way, it's it's interesting though that the security
forces never get tone policed, like you never hear it,
not even even on Fox.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I only not on Newsmax.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Hey buddy, maybe you shouldn't on camera aim your weapon
at an Australian reporter and pull the trigger.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I did see poor people criticize that at least at
least I don't know if it's I don't watch Newsmax Confession,
but it may have been Fox.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I actually have no idea.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Or like plain clothes, Ice spoons should stop going around
masked because there was just this case in Philadelphia where
a guy went into like like a barber shop or something,
and or beauty shop or something and was masked and
dressed like a fake Ice agent. Because ICE agents are
(19:59):
now putting on these bandanas refusing to identify themselves, you know,
zip tying people and dragging them off the street. And
so this guy went in and he's like Ice and
he like zip tied this woman and then took like
a thousand dollars because everyone's like, oh wait, we're not
allowed to get in front of ICE or else we're
going to get arrested too, and nobody toned.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Police is the other side.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
But so the point is I think this is this
is what Trump wants, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's
good for Trump.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
As we're going to get into it, I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I mean, one of the important things that I what
I tried to highlight yesterday is like one of the
reasons why I thought, at least yesterday we're doing this
in real time. While I'm like, I think it isn't
that positive for Trump? Is?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I think, whoever this is.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Just generally on these types of social issues, whoever seems
crazier usually is the person who loses. And if you
look at the last couple of months for the Trump
administration on immigration, you had the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case, right,
you had El Salvador Seacott.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You did not largely have an elevator.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Of stories for ic deportation raids or you know, gang
criminals rape whatever, Like that's not what the main story was.
But then you flip it and you're like, oh, well,
now you have people waiting Mexican flax, burning waymos in
the street. Now you know ad looting and all this.
People think may think I'm obsessing about the looting. I'm
trying to highlight for you what boomers are going to
(21:21):
be seeing in Alabama. Like I'm trying to I want
people to really know how like important these images are
going to be against for anyone like marginally right wing aligned.
This is spreading like wildfire across the entire Internet, and
that is going to inform a lot of the way
that they're going to think and behave for Republican politicians
(21:43):
and support vice versa. By the way, if you're somebody
on the left, I mean, I know there's massively viral
of images. I think it's like Kirk Russell's son like
speaking back to the cops, like you should be ashamed
of yourself or whatever. I see it on Twitter it's
guy fifty eight thousand retweets. So I mean, look, everybody's
living in their own in from environment, and people should
understand that. I still think we're probably in net positive territory.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But there are a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
The marine image is going to be a crazy one
that I mean's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
They have an active dute in the United States Czy
Marina on the streets of Laston.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's nuts, all right. Like I believe one of the
only times.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
In US history that active duty soldiers were mobilized for
a domestic law enforcement situation was one hundred and first
Airborne in nineteen fifty seven with President Eisenhower around that desegregation.
Can I forget exactly, I mean, it's the governor who
stood in.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The schoolhouse store. I don't I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
The name of it exactly, but I mean that's kind
of what we're talking about in terms of its precedence.
Another one here is this looming threat to arrest Gavin Newsome.
So this is something Gavin floated yesterday. He was like,
go ahead and arrest me. Donald Trump actually spoke on it,
was asked about it yesterday, endorsed the idea.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Let's take a listen, Gavin.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
He's daring Tom Holman become an erecto should he do it.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I would do it if.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I was Tom.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I think it's great Gavin, but I think everything he's done.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
A terrible job.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Look, I like Gavin news and he's a nice guy,
but he's grossly inconfidence. Everybody knows. All you have to
do is look at the little railroad he's building. It's
about a hundred times over budget. We're putting a flag
fall over there under budget. I always do under a
crime has he committed. I think his primarily primary crime
(23:36):
is running for governor because he's done such a bad job.
What he's done to that state is like what Biden
did to this country, and that's pretty bad. It's the
wrong philosophy.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So that was Trump saying, basically endorsing the idea of
arresting Newsome quote, I would do it if I were Tom.
I think it's great. Tom Homan here, that's who he's
referencing there. Actually did react to that, and so far
has said that nothing news is done is the rest worthy.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Let's go ahead and play at a five.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Please didn't the reporter asked you, well, could he governor?
Governor Newsom or or mayor basby arrested? I said, well, no,
one's about Blahl. They crossed the line to wait a crime.
Absolutely they can. So there was no discussion about wrestling Newsom,
and it told you know what he's done.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
He failed. He failed that date.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
He waited two days of that city burning and people
getting hurt off she was being assaulted before before he
made any declaration of an awful on lawful assembly. He
late to the game. President Trump isn't late to the game.
Men and women advice are not late to the game.
And men and women he's the men women the board
joke made la safe for that day. But you're not
(24:39):
hearing any of this. Oh, hear's a rhetoric about Ice
being racist and Ice being Nazis and terrorists, and Governor
Newsom feeds that.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So that's what.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
And he gave another interview to CNN just yesterday saying
that he's like he hasn't done anything yet, absolutely has
not done anything yet to have a bad governor, I
mean in a sense I actually want because you know,
I mean, I don't think he should be arrested.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I think it would be pretty insane.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
It kind of would be the best thing that could
happen to Gavin Newsom for his wife career. I was
wondering I wanted to get your reaction as to that,
because I mean, obviously Newsome initially dabbled in kind of
his Steve Bannon podcast and he was like Charlie Kirk right,
and he was he was kind of trying to enter
the bro sphere.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
But I would say during this crisis, like.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
He kind of has, you know, stepped up as a
resistance style figure and anything he does as oppositional as
he can to the Trump administration, I do think he
could be you know, something like this could be very
beneficial to him and could change his kind of future
orientation as a democratic leader.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And he likes to walk a tightrope, and this is
the tightrope that the kind of tightrope he likes to
walk because he wants to be able to be out
on the edge pushing back against the Trump administration's authoritarianism.
But he doesn't want us seem like he's endorsing burning
a a Waymo car or looting an Apple store. But
he does want to endorse the right to peaceably assemble
(26:06):
and protest. He does want to push back against you know,
Trump's across the board. We're going to find everyone and
deport them, including green card holders, while not endorsing you know,
criminals who are staying here. So like, I think he
kind of enjoys that effort to like balance all of
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those different things.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
And as long as he is the face of like
this standing up against Trump and that's where you want me,
that's exactly kind of where he wants to be. I mean,
this is all in the political realm, I do think,
which is I mean, it's pretty nuts, like marines are
on their way to Los Angeles and it is It
is curious too, because I mean, by Trump's own comments,
he said, he's like, yeah, I think things are calming down.
(26:49):
And look, I understand, you know, we just play videos
of looting or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I would also say in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I hate to say, this is like not exactly the
place where looting is particularly uncommon. I don't think it
should be that way, but you know it's not something
like LAPD is dealing with for the very first time.
So this is what we see right now in terms
of the situation there.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I guess the big jump.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
That would have to take place next, which I know
it sounds crazy about with the sending of active duty troops.
The big one would be in evoking of the Insurrection
Act because the troops are still being sent under this
Title ten authority, and the Marines are still being actually
placed in the same like unit as these National guardsmans,
which means they're not out on the streets like conducting
(27:34):
law enforcement behavior. I believe of like a National guardsman
can't even make an arrest unless a cop is like, hey,
you should you know, detain this person. It purely is
like being able to deploy tear gas and defense or
whatever of federal effectively creating a perimeter with shields around
the federal property.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, and some of the pro January sixth people on
the right are so salty about getting accused of carrying
out an insurrection that now they see they everything is
an insurrection. Comically, see insurrections everywhere. It's like, guys, you
sack the capital to try to interfere with the transfer
of power, Like there's a reason people threw the I
(28:13):
word in there. That's different than a protest over immigration
or police violence that happens in the downtown.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But they're like, well, you're trying to inhibit like a
lawful activity of deportation is.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
The law right, But you're not trying to change the regime. Yeah,
And an insurrection is trying to change the regime, which
is what they were trying to do on January sixth,
by their own not just admission, but proud like that.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That's what they were standing up for. They're going to
save the republic seventeen seventy six. Yeah, well that's a
little bit of an IQ test.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Also doing the whole seventeen Your whole motto is seventeen
seventy six. And then you've been crying ever since that
you got accused of an insurrection.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Ran. If you are looking for intellectual consistency here, you
are in the wrong place, my friend.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Right when you just need to read some book, I'll
see my way out.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Right. With the deportations and some of the polling, let's
go ahead and move to some of this. There's some
data that has been coming in on this. And by
the way, it is not you know, it is not uniform.
It is kind of all over the place, and this
is part of the ride. The circumstances are around this matter.
CNN's Harry Enton breaking some of this down. Let's take
(29:21):
a lesson.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Donald Trump, the president picking a fight on this and
to an extent, you see Los Angeles Mayor Karen Vass
a Democrat, and the California Governor Gavin.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Newsom pushing back.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
So what a voters see in terms of their perceptions
of Republicans the president or Democrats, say Gavin Newsom on
this issue.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yeah, the American electorate believe that the Democrats don't have
a clue on the issue of immigration. I mean, you
could just take it here closer to trust more and immigration.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Democrats versus Republicans. Got three different polls.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
For you across the board. They all tell the same story.
Republicans lead on the issue of immigration. You see it here,
CBS plus six, You see it here, CNN plus six,
you see it here, IPSOS Bigger plus nineteen. No matter
what poll you look at, no matter which way you
cut it, the American public is with the Republicans. The
American public is with Donald Trump, and to a much
(30:10):
greater extent than they were in term number one. And
it's not just on the broad issue of immigration. It's
on the specifics as well in which the American public
is with Donald Trump and the Republicans. And that is
why Donald Trump is eager to take on this fight
and eager for those scenes.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
That's exactly what we were saying, you know, yesterday, and
I do think it's something people really need to keep
in mind. I would say, you know, really, the only
immigration issue of the last thirty days which has been
net positive for the Democrats was the Kilmar Albrego Carcia case.
Of course, noteworthy the Trump administration did, you know, basically
bow down to the Supreme Court and they brought him
back here to face.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I mean, look, it's a trial, right, I mean, by
the way, you know, this guy's now free to give interviews.
He's gonna have a defense team, like I'm sure he'll
probably have like multimillion dollar defense.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
We have discover.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I said yesterday, I really hope it doesn't take a
plea deal because I actually wanted to go a trial.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I want to be able to see all of the evidence,
just to break some of this down that Harry was
talking about. Let's go ahead and go through some of
the slides, shall we. Let's put them up there on
the screen. So this is Trump administration's program to deport
immigrants illegally in the US. Fifty four percent approved, forty
six percent disapproved. I will say that disapproved number has
gone up, so people should keep that in mind. Dermostatic
public opinion is definitely on its way as some of
(31:27):
this becomes reality.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Let's go to the next part, shall we.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Trump's deportation program is making people in the US quote
safer forty two percent, less safe thirty percent, no change,
twenty seven only really thirty percent there in the less
safe category.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Let's go to the next one we have here.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Trump of the administration is prioritizing the deportation of dangerous criminals
fifty three percent, forty seven percent those who aren't dangerous criminals.
I will say, I mean, actually on this one, what
you really have seen is kind of a shift and
a push by Steven Miller and others to take place
in workplace raids. You know, not necessarily even quote prioritizing
dangerous criminals and others, but really just prioritizing the removal
(32:03):
of people who are here illegally. Let's continue with some
of these breakdowns. This, though, is why I think that
this is all really happening when the nation's attention is
all on immigration. As you can see here, Trump's tariffs
and trade, Trump's goals versus Trump's approach, fifty percent of
people are like, Yeah, Trump's goals I like. Thirty seven
(32:24):
percent of people, though, say Trump's approach is something that
they like. In terms of the dislike numbers, sixty three percent.
I mean, we're going to do a supermajority status over there.
Let's get to the next one, shall we. Here you
see the impact of new tariffs on prices. You see
in the short term, seventy seven percent that's going to
increase prices, four percent say decrease, and only nineteen percent
say have no impact and or not sure. And so
(32:45):
if you think about really what's happening, this is.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
The whole thing.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Forty five percent approved, fifty five percent disapprove. But it's
fifty percent approved. On immigration, fifty percent disapprove, and on
the economy it's forty two approve fifty eight Economy is
weak for him. Immigrant remains basically the only real thing
that they have left, in my opinion, especially after squandering
a lot of the goodwill that they initially had coming
in on Doge. But anything you want to say before
(33:11):
we get to like some of the specific poems is.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Real quickly on that.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, immigration polling has the volatility of a Tesla stock.
You look at twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, the country is
actually kind of siding with Trump like that, and Trump
says and believes, and I think rightly so that his
seizing of that issue really catapulted him through the nomination
(33:34):
and also then to the White House. When the images
of the kids in the cages and the Muslim band
and all this stuff like hits the American public in
the face, they recoil and it flips, and you get
this kind of massive support for immigration. You get yard
signs and suburbs all over the country. Then under Biden,
(33:55):
you have millions of people because you got these twenty
twenty kind of shut down of the border because of COVID,
So you've got all this pent up kind of pressure
on the border that gets lifted at the same time
Biden comes in millions of people coming across the border,
and opinion flips back again.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I think that's really what changed everything, because because it
was a massive change in the status quo, and it
was particular, it was a material, it was a genuine change,
which I think a lot of people ignore.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Like this is one of the things, right, and it's
true throughout history like that.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
You know, you'd have periods of American history where you'd
have massive inflows of immigration and then you'd have a
reaction to that and have it shut down for a
long time, and then you'd have loosening up again. So
maybe things are moving faster now if if Trump overplays
his hand, the public has shown a willingness to you know,
pivot on a dime on this issue.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
No, I think it could be punishing.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
That's part of the reason why I do think that
they are risking it with some of these because if
it's seen as over zealous, militarized one that is uh,
one that is extreme relative to where things are. I
have no idea where things are going to fall, because
I also think the appetite for a lot of people
of crushing protests is pretty high. Let's go and put
this eight up there on the screen. This is an
(35:08):
interesting one. It kind of gets into some of the
nitty gritty Americans believe LA protests should be handled by
state and local authorities. This is a UGOV poll just
literally came out yesterday. Who do you think it should
be the lead in responding to protests? Fifty six percent
say state and local, twenty five percent say the federal government.
Nineteen percent say not sure. It's a little hard some
of these, you go.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Ahead, interesting question where the parties are very much divided. Yes,
because the only people in the country who believe by
a significant margin that the federal government should take the
lead are Republicans, even Independence by fifty six to twenty
here right say it should be state federal. Obviously, you know,
overwhelming majority of Democrats believe that. So it's this situation
(35:49):
where Republicans are in the vast minority on the question,
but within the Republican base.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Well, that's this question, that's that's that's kind of what
I don't want to move away from. Do you approve
disapproved of the protests? Thirty six percent approve, forty five
percent disapprove. Not sure is nineteen percent. So that's one
where I mean, I think these people should really take notice.
I mean this, by the way, BLM was more popular
at its initial outbreak than this is. And if you
really look at some of this here you have right now,
(36:18):
things are all over the all over the place, like,
for example, do you believe the protests in Los Angeles
against ice are quote mostly peaceful thirty eight percent, mostly
violent thirty six twenty six not sure. So the more
media that plays of violence like that's largely what's going
to inform.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
A lot of this.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I also again want to give a multifaceted picture. Do
you approve or disprove the Trump Administration's handling of deportations?
Thirty nine percent approve, fifty percent disapprove. So there's a
lot of movement, you know, within this, And that's why,
you know, it's funny because I see so much of
this happen right now where people who speak out against
like the Trump administration specific action are criticized as you
(37:00):
interlow whatever. But it's like, guys, the public does pay
attention to process. I get it, it's annoying, it's nitpicky
or whatever. But you know, if anything, if you're quote
on the team, paying attention to process really matters, especially
for something like this, because you can see you actually
have a net positive issue and then a net negative
in terms of how the way that you are handling it.
(37:21):
And that's why I think that this marine deployment in particular,
I mean, also, who knows how long this is going
to stay. One of the worst things about the jan
sixth thing. There were National guardsmen in our streets here,
Ryan for what four months? When did the first come
down at the Capitol? It took months, by the way,
I mean, that's crazy. The United States Capital is one
of the most accessible places in America, I think.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Which I think I thought it was never calm down.
I thought so too.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I mean, I mean, one of the cool things about
the capital is constituents can just walk in there and
like heckle their member of Congress. I encourage people to
do it. It's it's really fun to watch. Actually, but
that just stopped overnight. Of course the members loved it.
But yeah, But the point is is that around Washington,
I'm sure you've seen this. When I came to college here,
you could go up to the White House fence.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Now not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Lafayette Park. I think maybe in the last two years
people have been able to go. During BLM, it was
basically just shut down for like three years, which I
think is nuts.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Is bad.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You know, these are like the nation's monuments, capitals, et cetera.
And now here we have in the Los Angeles it's like, okay,
so they're being sent there as you and I know
it takes months, maybe even years for.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
People to be sent back.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
You want an active duty US Marine, you know, occupation
or whatever around the federal liberation. But it sounds secks
for them too, you know, Liberation Day. They don't want
to live in downtown Los Angeles. It's a shipple compared
to twenty nine pobs. Although apparently they don't like it
there either because it's too hot, so whatever.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
When I moved to this city, you can actually drive
along Pennsylvania Avenue.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Oh those pre nine eleven right, Yeah, I've seen videos
of that. I've never seen it. Yeah, yeah, you're just
sitting in trafficking. It's like if you watch really old
episodes of the West Wing from like nineteen ninety nine,
you'll see car You're like.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Wait, you could drive in front of the White House.
You're like, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
When they shut it down, the whole city is like
that's a major thoroughfare.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That's how we get across that city. How are you?
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I don't shut down Membrane? What post pre nine eleven
Washington d C? What was like it was the Golden age?
It certainly was okay, So that's with polling, We don't
last point of this.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
I think, yeah, this is this will be as interesting
as a trivia question a year from now, like what
was the polling like at the beginning of this, because
we have no idea where.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
This is headed. We truly don't, and that's that's going
to change everything.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Well, that's another question too around how the protesters themselves
handle this in Los Angeles, because if you continue to
see more looting or more Mexican flags and or you know,
Waymo's being although I believe WEYMO has been shut down now,
or you know, general like burning, you're going to see
NetPro But if you just see these permanent drone helicopter shots,
(39:50):
you know, and that doesn't even seem like it's particularly bad,
I think public opinion could sway pretty quickly. And it
is a big question too about how the rest of
the nation will respawned. As of yet, have not seen much. No, no,
there's nothing big going on in New York, nothing big
going on. I mean there's little pockets, few things, San Francisco, Dallas.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
These are a few hundred people.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
These are not you know, ten even ten twenty thousand, like,
let alone the millions that we originally saw back in
twenty twenty, right.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
I mean, I you know, we talked earlier about the
disorganized nature of this and and I elevated that. But
it is worth underlying underlining that they did arrest the
head of the SCIU in California. But I'm that brought
to people familiar with it.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Can you lay out exactly what happened, because I know
that that had happened, but I have not read this.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
It was like four days ago or so. It was
David Whareta.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
I don't know if he's related to Dolores where to
it was a legendary kind of civil civil rights and
immigration rights figure, labor organizer, but so he's the head
of the SCIU in California. And they were protesting these
a bunch of arrests and detentions of people in this
basement of this federal building. People who were being kept
(41:02):
for many hours in pitch dark, being given you know,
very little food and water over that period of time,
just treated like, you know, treated absolutely horribly. And so
there were very small protests around this, partly organized by
SEIU in defense of their comrades, and they arrested the
(41:23):
head of the state Chapter of the s CiU and
then a bunch of people came out. So you can
call that organized in the sense it's literally organized labor,
because this is an organized group of people who were
like they arrested, where to they did what not? Because
he's here illegally using that kind of almost a loophole.
(41:44):
What's the charge. The charge would be obstructing like you know,
a lawful like immigration arrest or something. But I call
it a loophole because if you're protesting the general policy
of like the treatment of immigrants, and a cop is
like move out of the way, and you're like, no,
I'm sitting here protesting. You can arrest them for civil
(42:05):
disobedience normally, and that's you know, that's typically how this
miss this goes a little misdemeanor in said they're saying, ah, boom,
you are, you're trying to obstruct a federal you know,
carrying out of immigration duties. And so they arrested him
for that and they're still holding him and so that
that is what really kicked off the protest.
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Actually, can we call it Dad Show?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
All right? I was telling Ryan before how this guy
had four of them. I have no idea including twins.
I was like, comforting and taking care of one screaming
child is enough, but to have two of them there
at the same time, they're on different crying schedules and
feeding schedules, I think I would actually lose my entire minds.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So I think I respect. I have so much more
respect for you.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I was thinking, I can't wait to go toe to
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Speaker 1 (01:04):
Because I said.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yesterday, like playing in the NBA when one team has
played like four games.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, especially that last night we had a streamer on
our hands, I'm just running circles around him. There, I know, I.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Said yesterday, I said, any bad take that I have
for the next year, you can just blame it on
sleep deprivation and me being I tweeted out my health
statistics yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
A lot of people enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
By the way, it's all worth it. I don't care,
but it is funny. All right, So let's go ahead
and see what we have in the show today.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Let me the show bar. All right, this is the
tough part of the show. Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We're going to talk about some of the overnight developments there.
The big top line news is President Donald Trump mobilizing
several hundred United States Marines active duty service members, sending
him to Los Angeles for some sort of law enforcement
support mission. Still a lot of questions surrounding that. We're
going to show you some of the video and other things.
Clashes breaking out between lapd between protesters, last night there
(01:54):
was some looting as well, so we'll show everybody some
of the images. We're going to talk about a little
bit polling. I teased that yesterday there's been some CBS
News widespread polling about Donald Trump and immigration. This is
a big segment of our discussion yesterday with Crystal over
the popularity of Trump's program and also just broadly why
a lot of this fight is being picked. Right now,
we're gonna talk about Palantineer. This is a story that
(02:14):
I missed, but Ryan, you're really going to be driving
this one. This is Laura Lumer is getting involved. Tim
Dillon is alleging that there's widespread buying off of influencers
regarding Palenteer.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, he really is the George carl I think he's
the George Carlin of our generation.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I said that yesterday China, We're going to give everybody,
and I know this is flying under the radar, but
it's tremendously important. United States and China negotiators met in
London yesterday just for the second round of trade talks.
Everybody's basically on pins and needles on what the hell
is going to happen here? The tariffs were off while
I was gone. Thank you, President Trump for removing the
crisis that you caused.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Many car seat.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Owners, however, have not yet shocker right, you will be
shocked to learn that car seat prices, stroller prices, and
all that did not go down even though the tariffs
went on.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
We're going to read, sure it's a main stroller manufacturing.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Ninety nine percent of car seats are made in China.
You know that. Ninety nine safety?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And also you know another thing I learned recently is
you know, these car seats don't even last that long.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You can't donate them, right, like because and it's like
maybe I'm maybe cartel.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I think this is too safetiest, but like, you can't
donate a car seat. I mean, if you're in a
car wreck, that's one thing, But if you have a
perfectly good car seat, it really can't give it to somebody,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I think that's Nuts's corret. Sorry, I think it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm sure I'm gonna have parenting Twitter and all those
people coming after me.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
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the d n C. I'm really excited for Ryan to
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is just I mean, I know it's fun to dunk
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Excited for updates from the region.
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You know, I'm usually pretty into pop culture, but I
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Every one, like people on the internet was on Blake
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you know, we haven't seen anything good her. Her performance
in the town is like legendarily bad. Her Boston act,
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Okay, I'm trying to think of some other failed DTC
companies out there. Extraordinary news there, Ryan, I'm out of
Los Angeles from President Trump. You know. It's actually a
little bit crazy because literally moments before that announcement was made,
Trump had actually given a statement where he had I
wouldn't say it ruled out per se of sending in
(07:26):
the Marines, but he's like, I think that we have
it more under control. I have a few more details
that I can say. So it's a little complicated the
way this is being done. Trump has not invoked the
Insurrection Act, So this is from US Northern Command. They
say they have quote activated the Marine Infantry Battalion that
was placed in an alert status over the weekend. Seven
hundred Marines with second Battalion, seventh Marines' first Marine Division
(07:47):
will seamlessly integrate with the title ten forces under Task
Force fifty one who are protecting federal personnel and property
in the Greater Los Angeles area. The activation of the
Marines is intended to provide Task Force fifty one with
the adequate numbers of forces to provide continuous coverage of
the area in support of the lead federal agency.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Task Force fifty.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
One provides a rapidly deployable capability to partner with civil
authorities and deity entities in response to homeland defense and
homeland security operations. So effectively, what they are saying is
that these seven hundred active duty Marines are being placed
under the same Task Force fifty one, which is basically
now comprised of the twenty one hundred National Guardsmen that
(08:29):
were mobilized by Trump previously, as well as these seven
hundred Marines, basically to supplement that mission. It does not
appear from what I can see in front of me
is that they will be quote, they have been trained
in de escalation, crowd control, and standing rules for the
use of force that are similar under the National Guardsmen. Effectively,
it's like using active duty soldiers as National guardsmen here
(08:51):
in the fourth I'm not trying to downplay it. I'm
just genuinely confused because this is such an extraordinary situation.
I mean, I actually cannot think really of the last
time that active duty US military members were actually deployed,
you know, without the consent and actually without the not
only the consent, but like the invitation right of the
governor of a state that was already pretty extraordinary. Not
happened since nineteen sixty five under LBJ, And so this
(09:15):
time around, I mean, it is difficult to contextualize. The
Marines have not yet arrived, we don't really know what
they're doing. But the image nonetheless is going to be
I mean shocking. It's a shocking development here from Donald
especially considering I mean, we will show people video from
last night, but I mean, but from by all accounts,
it does not appear to have been worse than the
previous two days of some of the rioting of protesting
(09:36):
that was happening in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
It's less yeah, yeah, and maybe they're like planning their
amphibious landing on Venice Beach or whatever wind up in
downtown Los Angeles. Let's start with a four before we
get into some of the other images.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
A four.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
This is Gavin Newsom saying that he's going to sue
the federal government.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's for you know what.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
On the one hand, you could dismiss as you know,
procedural or paperwork arguments. On the other hand, you could
say that this is you know, goes to the fundamental
nature of power sharing between the states and the federal government.
He calls it quote an unprecedented power graph. He argues
multiple things. One, he says the getting the National Guard
deployed was invalid because there is no insurrection, there is
(10:20):
no rebellion. It's just it's just a protest, and that
no kind of it's not the kind of protest that
the cops haven't been able to handle over many decades
and over the history of the United States. And he
also says that the law requires that you work with
the governor and that the governor be the one that
(10:41):
deploys the National Guard, and that's not just paperwork, because
what it does is it requires the buy in of
both entities. It keeps everyone together. If the government written
large is defined by its monopolization of the use of force.
If you now have a upily where you know, you've
(11:02):
got National Guard, you've got some members over here who
are responsible to this state actor, and then you've got
another state actor that also has men and women under arms,
and you're sending them into the same streets. You know,
that's that's not how this is envisioned to go.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, so you know, as you said, with some of
the images, let's go ahead and put some of these
up there on the screen. I'll just kind of narrate
kind of what we see here. This is just some
collated footage that we see. I want everybody to keep
in mind that everything you're seeing here is LAPD, who
as I said yesterday, I mean, look, I think one
of the distinguishing characteristics between this and BLM is that
(11:38):
I said previously, I don't think that democratic leaders are
like really justifying a lot of this going on right now.
In fact, you know, LAPD, as you can all see,
is like pretty ready to rock and roll from what
we see right now. I mean, the justification appears to
be that this would free up LAPD resources. But you
can see here right now, you know, this was after
I believe that there was like a declared online assembly yesterday.
(12:01):
People are not heating Crystal's warning and they do continue
to wave Mexican flags there in the streets of Los Angeles.
Here we had some we had some looting and several
retail establishments. Of course, people very very upset at over
immigration detention, just like they were over George Floyd, which
is why Apple stores and Adidas rep places.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Have to be looted.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But as you can see, you know, in front of you,
there are several arrests and other things that have taken
place that does look like police it is. This is
another thing that's just so difficult to distinguish when the
police start to gear up in military camo. I mean,
this is something that goes all the way back to
Ferguson with the militarization of a lot of American police forces.
(12:41):
Like when you literally can't even tell and you have
to look the shield as to what it is, we shouldn't,
you know, overplay it either. There were a lot of
peaceful protests that happened in the streets of Los Angeles.
As you can see in front of you. There were
marches that happened in some of the streets as well
as across the United States and several different pockets around
that was happening. This is getting quite a bit of attention.
These were some images that were tweeted out by Governor
(13:03):
Gavin Newsom of National guardsmen who were sleeping on the floor.
This was Governor Newsom's critique here saying that Trump basically,
you know, sent the National Guard in without proper planning
and without proper planning or resources. It is funny, because
I'm not funny for the people to the floor, that's terrible.
(13:24):
But actually I do remember that this was a similar
controversy here in Washington after the January sixth riots. If
you'll remember, we were living in the Green Zone Ryan
after January six here in Washington, and I distinctly remember
walking by parking garages and just seeing like a thousand
guys sleeping on the floor in January in a park,
cold concrete in January. You know, they were definitely here
(13:46):
for what exactly, So because of a qwanon Ryot, I
feel kind of similarly about this. I mean, there's no
real reason at least in my opinion, outside of optics.
But we will get to the polling for a lot
of this. But I mean, I think it fits with
a lot of the Trump administrations straps, inviting fights over
you know, basically extraordinary uses of power, and in this
particular case, trying to pick a fight where he does
(14:07):
believe he feels strongest politically. And part of the reason
for that is we talked a lot about this yesterday.
I'm curious what you think is that. I think it's
really important to contextualize what's happening in Los Angeles. But
it's also important to contextualize that probably ninety percent of
the country has never been to Los Angeles, maybe even
ninety five percent of the country. So when you are
in Pittsburgh or Detroit, or Georgia or Charlotte, North Carolina,
(14:33):
any of these places, you don't know anything about LA.
All you're watching is the video about what's happening over there.
And with images like this, regardless when you're watching CNN,
Fox or anything, you're going to be seeing the Mexican flag,
you're going to be seeing some of the or if
you're on social media, you're going to be seeing some
of the looting. You may even be seeing some of
the peaceful protesting and all of that as well, but
you are going to get the impression that things are
really hot and on fire in the city, and that
(14:56):
means that drawing attention to that and then the conflagration
surrounding it at an level is really one that Donald
Trump is inviting.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And there's a bunch of discussion kind of in the
center left around the question of how smart are the
protests for Democrats or how smart are the protests for
opposition to Trump, which ignores the fact that doesn't matter
what anybody thinks, like this is not a centralized, like
Soros planned thing.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Well you should speak on that, because there is actually
a lot of right wingers who do believe that this
is like massively or by the way, I've always found
that incredibly stupid, Like there's this theory in the right
that every left wing protest is like organized and supported
by NGO. Now, I won't deny that these people don't
have email lists or whatever bust people in or any
of that, but I mean, I was living here in
(15:44):
the city during BLM. I can pretty much just guarantee
you that it wasn't because of organization. I mean I
think it was like again, literally people being at home,
mass psychosis, just believing in this cause. Whatever I find,
we've litigated that to that. My point though, is that
I don't think anybody for us, my white liberal neighbors,
to all go out into the streets. Oh exactly, for Bilam,
they went because they were upset. I think people are
(16:06):
upset here too. I think it's fine. You know, we
live in democracy, it's right.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And the different groups that get tagged as being central
to these these protests happening had the same budget ten
years ago, two years ago, you know, six months ago.
Yet they didn't weren't able to get people out on
the streets because right, sure you can get and you know,
when it's like an NGO protest, everyone there is wearing
(16:29):
the same T shirts. There's like forty five people, they
all know each other, they're on the clock. Yes, yeah,
so those are literal paid protesters, but nobody has the
money to go beyond like a couple dozen of those
kinds of people. You need an actual spark, and you
need gasoline, and then you get people out onto the
streets and what the Trump administration has been doing was
(16:54):
effectively guaranteed to create this reaction and arguably designed to
create this reaction because they love it, Like they absolutely
adore these images that they're getting. Let's let's Trump do
the thing he's really wanted to do. Send in the Marines.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, well, there is real like on the right in particular,
there's still a lot of anger about the way that
the BLM protests we're.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Going to restorel well, I mean, you can smash it.
It's bi directional.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Nobody's forcing people to loot Adidas in Apple stores, Okay,
and every person who does. You know, all right, you
know it's not twenty twenty anymore. You don't have CNN
panels talking about riot is the voice of the unheard.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Everyone's like, you're kind of an idiot and you're going
to jail.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
But I will say, you know, on that front, that's
this whole like tone policing around protesters.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I don't know. I still think it's important.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Actually, I think it's important for opinion leaders and others
to learn lessons politically and for people to recognize, like, hey,
this is really bad. Like well, I mean, on January
sixth and all that there was at least what a.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Two year or three year period were really like, yeah,
you know, like that didn't turn out so well for us.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
It ended up being fine, I guess in the end,
and people largely forgot about it. But I mean, I
don't think we could deny that. In twenty twenty two.
If you remember a lot of the more like Jen
six adjacent Republicans who ran, they all lost, right, I mean,
Doug Mastriano, David Purdue, remember a day against Raffensburger.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
We had Brian Kemp survive.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Like it was important actually in its time to not
necessarily carry Lake, you know, to be a peer as
one of these people who saved degress extreme. It gave
Democrats the United States Senate. And that's arguably the reason
that what we have, like the inflation reductionists so many
ten pulp, whether you like them or not, that is
actually did have an impact.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Sure it didn't end up having in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
But anyway, I do think like that level of people
advising them to be smarter or whatever, I don't think
it's a bad idea because sure maybe some Mexican flag
waivers are always going to do it. But it does
matter to have like a top down kind of commentariat
telling people and be like this is not good, Like
you are inviting your own destruction to a certain extent,
(19:00):
and I think people like you and Crystal I have
spoken up against that destruction and you're like, that's not
what we want to see. So just don't give people
what they want, which is generally a good ruin politics.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
By the way, it's it's interesting though that the security
forces never get tone policed, like you never hear it,
not even even on Fox.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I only not on Newsmax.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Hey buddy, maybe you shouldn't on camera aim your weapon
at an Australian reporter and pull the trigger.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I did see poor people criticize that at least at
least I don't know if it's I don't watch Newsmax Confession,
but it may have been Fox.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I actually have no idea.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Or like plain clothes, Ice spoons should stop going around
masked because there was just this case in Philadelphia where
a guy went into like like a barber shop or something,
and or beauty shop or something and was masked and
dressed like a fake Ice agent. Because ICE agents are
(19:59):
now putting on these bandanas refusing to identify themselves, you know,
zip tying people and dragging them off the street. And
so this guy went in and he's like Ice and
he like zip tied this woman and then took like
a thousand dollars because everyone's like, oh wait, we're not
allowed to get in front of ICE or else we're
going to get arrested too, and nobody toned.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Police is the other side.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
But so the point is I think this is this
is what Trump wants, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's
good for Trump.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
As we're going to get into it, I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I mean, one of the important things that I what
I tried to highlight yesterday is like one of the
reasons why I thought, at least yesterday we're doing this
in real time. While I'm like, I think it isn't
that positive for Trump? Is?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I think, whoever this is.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Just generally on these types of social issues, whoever seems
crazier usually is the person who loses. And if you
look at the last couple of months for the Trump
administration on immigration, you had the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case, right,
you had El Salvador Seacott.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You did not largely have an elevator.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Of stories for ic deportation raids or you know, gang
criminals rape whatever, Like that's not what the main story was.
But then you flip it and you're like, oh, well,
now you have people waiting Mexican flax, burning waymos in
the street. Now you know ad looting and all this.
People think may think I'm obsessing about the looting. I'm
trying to highlight for you what boomers are going to
(21:21):
be seeing in Alabama. Like I'm trying to I want
people to really know how like important these images are
going to be against for anyone like marginally right wing aligned.
This is spreading like wildfire across the entire Internet, and
that is going to inform a lot of the way
that they're going to think and behave for Republican politicians
(21:43):
and support vice versa. By the way, if you're somebody
on the left, I mean, I know there's massively viral
of images. I think it's like Kirk Russell's son like
speaking back to the cops, like you should be ashamed
of yourself or whatever. I see it on Twitter it's
guy fifty eight thousand retweets. So I mean, look, everybody's
living in their own in from environment, and people should
understand that. I still think we're probably in net positive territory.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But there are a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
The marine image is going to be a crazy one
that I mean's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
They have an active dute in the United States Czy
Marina on the streets of Laston.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's nuts, all right. Like I believe one of the
only times.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
In US history that active duty soldiers were mobilized for
a domestic law enforcement situation was one hundred and first
Airborne in nineteen fifty seven with President Eisenhower around that desegregation.
Can I forget exactly, I mean, it's the governor who
stood in.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The schoolhouse store. I don't I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
The name of it exactly, but I mean that's kind
of what we're talking about in terms of its precedence.
Another one here is this looming threat to arrest Gavin Newsome.
So this is something Gavin floated yesterday. He was like,
go ahead and arrest me. Donald Trump actually spoke on it,
was asked about it yesterday, endorsed the idea.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Let's take a listen, Gavin.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
He's daring Tom Holman become an erecto should he do it.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I would do it if.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I was Tom.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I think it's great Gavin, but I think everything he's done.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
A terrible job.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Look, I like Gavin news and he's a nice guy,
but he's grossly inconfidence. Everybody knows. All you have to
do is look at the little railroad he's building. It's
about a hundred times over budget. We're putting a flag
fall over there under budget. I always do under a
crime has he committed. I think his primarily primary crime
(23:36):
is running for governor because he's done such a bad job.
What he's done to that state is like what Biden
did to this country, and that's pretty bad. It's the
wrong philosophy.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So that was Trump saying, basically endorsing the idea of
arresting Newsome quote, I would do it if I were Tom.
I think it's great. Tom Homan here, that's who he's
referencing there. Actually did react to that, and so far
has said that nothing news is done is the rest worthy.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Let's go ahead and play at a five.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Please didn't the reporter asked you, well, could he governor?
Governor Newsom or or mayor basby arrested? I said, well, no,
one's about Blahl. They crossed the line to wait a crime.
Absolutely they can. So there was no discussion about wrestling Newsom,
and it told you know what he's done.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
He failed. He failed that date.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
He waited two days of that city burning and people
getting hurt off she was being assaulted before before he
made any declaration of an awful on lawful assembly. He
late to the game. President Trump isn't late to the game.
Men and women advice are not late to the game.
And men and women he's the men women the board
joke made la safe for that day. But you're not
(24:39):
hearing any of this. Oh, hear's a rhetoric about Ice
being racist and Ice being Nazis and terrorists, and Governor
Newsom feeds that.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So that's what.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
And he gave another interview to CNN just yesterday saying
that he's like he hasn't done anything yet, absolutely has
not done anything yet to have a bad governor, I
mean in a sense I actually want because you know,
I mean, I don't think he should be arrested.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I think it would be pretty insane.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
It kind of would be the best thing that could
happen to Gavin Newsom for his wife career. I was
wondering I wanted to get your reaction as to that,
because I mean, obviously Newsome initially dabbled in kind of
his Steve Bannon podcast and he was like Charlie Kirk right,
and he was he was kind of trying to enter
the bro sphere.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
But I would say during this crisis, like.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
He kind of has, you know, stepped up as a
resistance style figure and anything he does as oppositional as
he can to the Trump administration, I do think he
could be you know, something like this could be very
beneficial to him and could change his kind of future
orientation as a democratic leader.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And he likes to walk a tightrope, and this is
the tightrope that the kind of tightrope he likes to
walk because he wants to be able to be out
on the edge pushing back against the Trump administration's authoritarianism.
But he doesn't want us seem like he's endorsing burning
a a Waymo car or looting an Apple store. But
he does want to endorse the right to peaceably assemble
(26:06):
and protest. He does want to push back against you know,
Trump's across the board. We're going to find everyone and
deport them, including green card holders, while not endorsing you know,
criminals who are staying here. So like, I think he
kind of enjoys that effort to like balance all of
(26:28):
those different things.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
And as long as he is the face of like
this standing up against Trump and that's where you want me,
that's exactly kind of where he wants to be. I mean,
this is all in the political realm, I do think,
which is I mean, it's pretty nuts, like marines are
on their way to Los Angeles and it is It
is curious too, because I mean, by Trump's own comments,
he said, he's like, yeah, I think things are calming down.
(26:49):
And look, I understand, you know, we just play videos
of looting or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I would also say in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I hate to say, this is like not exactly the
place where looting is particularly uncommon. I don't think it
should be that way, but you know it's not something
like LAPD is dealing with for the very first time.
So this is what we see right now in terms
of the situation there.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I guess the big jump.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
That would have to take place next, which I know
it sounds crazy about with the sending of active duty troops.
The big one would be in evoking of the Insurrection
Act because the troops are still being sent under this
Title ten authority, and the Marines are still being actually
placed in the same like unit as these National guardsmans,
which means they're not out on the streets like conducting
(27:34):
law enforcement behavior. I believe of like a National guardsman
can't even make an arrest unless a cop is like, hey,
you should you know, detain this person. It purely is
like being able to deploy tear gas and defense or
whatever of federal effectively creating a perimeter with shields around
the federal property.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, and some of the pro January sixth people on
the right are so salty about getting accused of carrying
out an insurrection that now they see they everything is
an insurrection. Comically, see insurrections everywhere. It's like, guys, you
sack the capital to try to interfere with the transfer
of power, Like there's a reason people threw the I
(28:13):
word in there. That's different than a protest over immigration
or police violence that happens in the downtown.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But they're like, well, you're trying to inhibit like a
lawful activity of deportation is.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
The law right, But you're not trying to change the regime. Yeah,
And an insurrection is trying to change the regime, which
is what they were trying to do on January sixth,
by their own not just admission, but proud like that.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That's what they were standing up for. They're going to
save the republic seventeen seventy six. Yeah, well that's a
little bit of an IQ test.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Also doing the whole seventeen Your whole motto is seventeen
seventy six. And then you've been crying ever since that
you got accused of an insurrection.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Ran. If you are looking for intellectual consistency here, you
are in the wrong place, my friend.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Right when you just need to read some book, I'll
see my way out.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Right. With the deportations and some of the polling, let's
go ahead and move to some of this. There's some
data that has been coming in on this. And by
the way, it is not you know, it is not uniform.
It is kind of all over the place, and this
is part of the ride. The circumstances are around this matter.
CNN's Harry Enton breaking some of this down. Let's take
(29:21):
a lesson.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Donald Trump, the president picking a fight on this and
to an extent, you see Los Angeles Mayor Karen Vass
a Democrat, and the California Governor Gavin.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Newsom pushing back.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
So what a voters see in terms of their perceptions
of Republicans the president or Democrats, say Gavin Newsom on
this issue.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yeah, the American electorate believe that the Democrats don't have
a clue on the issue of immigration. I mean, you
could just take it here closer to trust more and immigration.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Democrats versus Republicans. Got three different polls.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
For you across the board. They all tell the same story.
Republicans lead on the issue of immigration. You see it here,
CBS plus six, You see it here, CNN plus six,
you see it here, IPSOS Bigger plus nineteen. No matter
what poll you look at, no matter which way you
cut it, the American public is with the Republicans. The
American public is with Donald Trump, and to a much
(30:10):
greater extent than they were in term number one. And
it's not just on the broad issue of immigration. It's
on the specifics as well in which the American public
is with Donald Trump and the Republicans. And that is
why Donald Trump is eager to take on this fight
and eager for those scenes.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
That's exactly what we were saying, you know, yesterday, and
I do think it's something people really need to keep
in mind. I would say, you know, really, the only
immigration issue of the last thirty days which has been
net positive for the Democrats was the Kilmar Albrego Carcia case.
Of course, noteworthy the Trump administration did, you know, basically
bow down to the Supreme Court and they brought him
back here to face.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I mean, look, it's a trial, right, I mean, by
the way, you know, this guy's now free to give interviews.
He's gonna have a defense team, like I'm sure he'll
probably have like multimillion dollar defense.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
We have discover.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I said yesterday, I really hope it doesn't take a
plea deal because I actually wanted to go a trial.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I want to be able to see all of the evidence,
just to break some of this down that Harry was
talking about. Let's go ahead and go through some of
the slides, shall we. Let's put them up there on
the screen. So this is Trump administration's program to deport
immigrants illegally in the US. Fifty four percent approved, forty
six percent disapproved. I will say that disapproved number has
gone up, so people should keep that in mind. Dermostatic
public opinion is definitely on its way as some of
(31:27):
this becomes reality.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Let's go to the next part, shall we.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Trump's deportation program is making people in the US quote
safer forty two percent, less safe thirty percent, no change,
twenty seven only really thirty percent there in the less
safe category.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Let's go to the next one we have here.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Trump of the administration is prioritizing the deportation of dangerous criminals
fifty three percent, forty seven percent those who aren't dangerous criminals.
I will say, I mean, actually on this one, what
you really have seen is kind of a shift and
a push by Steven Miller and others to take place
in workplace raids. You know, not necessarily even quote prioritizing
dangerous criminals and others, but really just prioritizing the removal
(32:03):
of people who are here illegally. Let's continue with some
of these breakdowns. This, though, is why I think that
this is all really happening when the nation's attention is
all on immigration. As you can see here, Trump's tariffs
and trade, Trump's goals versus Trump's approach, fifty percent of
people are like, Yeah, Trump's goals I like. Thirty seven
(32:24):
percent of people, though, say Trump's approach is something that
they like. In terms of the dislike numbers, sixty three percent.
I mean, we're going to do a supermajority status over there.
Let's get to the next one, shall we. Here you
see the impact of new tariffs on prices. You see
in the short term, seventy seven percent that's going to
increase prices, four percent say decrease, and only nineteen percent
say have no impact and or not sure. And so
(32:45):
if you think about really what's happening, this is.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
The whole thing.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Forty five percent approved, fifty five percent disapprove. But it's
fifty percent approved. On immigration, fifty percent disapprove, and on
the economy it's forty two approve fifty eight Economy is
weak for him. Immigrant remains basically the only real thing
that they have left, in my opinion, especially after squandering
a lot of the goodwill that they initially had coming
in on Doge. But anything you want to say before
(33:11):
we get to like some of the specific poems is.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Real quickly on that.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, immigration polling has the volatility of a Tesla stock.
You look at twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, the country is
actually kind of siding with Trump like that, and Trump
says and believes, and I think rightly so that his
seizing of that issue really catapulted him through the nomination
(33:34):
and also then to the White House. When the images
of the kids in the cages and the Muslim band
and all this stuff like hits the American public in
the face, they recoil and it flips, and you get
this kind of massive support for immigration. You get yard
signs and suburbs all over the country. Then under Biden,
(33:55):
you have millions of people because you got these twenty
twenty kind of shut down of the border because of COVID,
So you've got all this pent up kind of pressure
on the border that gets lifted at the same time
Biden comes in millions of people coming across the border,
and opinion flips back again.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I think that's really what changed everything, because because it
was a massive change in the status quo, and it
was particular, it was a material, it was a genuine change,
which I think a lot of people ignore.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Like this is one of the things, right, and it's
true throughout history like that.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
You know, you'd have periods of American history where you'd
have massive inflows of immigration and then you'd have a
reaction to that and have it shut down for a
long time, and then you'd have loosening up again. So
maybe things are moving faster now if if Trump overplays
his hand, the public has shown a willingness to you know,
pivot on a dime on this issue.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
No, I think it could be punishing.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
That's part of the reason why I do think that
they are risking it with some of these because if
it's seen as over zealous, militarized one that is uh,
one that is extreme relative to where things are. I
have no idea where things are going to fall, because
I also think the appetite for a lot of people
of crushing protests is pretty high. Let's go and put
this eight up there on the screen. This is an
(35:08):
interesting one. It kind of gets into some of the
nitty gritty Americans believe LA protests should be handled by
state and local authorities. This is a UGOV poll just
literally came out yesterday. Who do you think it should
be the lead in responding to protests? Fifty six percent
say state and local, twenty five percent say the federal government.
Nineteen percent say not sure. It's a little hard some
of these, you go.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Ahead, interesting question where the parties are very much divided. Yes,
because the only people in the country who believe by
a significant margin that the federal government should take the
lead are Republicans, even Independence by fifty six to twenty
here right say it should be state federal. Obviously, you know,
overwhelming majority of Democrats believe that. So it's this situation
(35:49):
where Republicans are in the vast minority on the question,
but within the Republican base.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Well, that's this question, that's that's that's kind of what
I don't want to move away from. Do you approve
disapproved of the protests? Thirty six percent approve, forty five
percent disapprove. Not sure is nineteen percent. So that's one
where I mean, I think these people should really take notice.
I mean this, by the way, BLM was more popular
at its initial outbreak than this is. And if you
really look at some of this here you have right now,
(36:18):
things are all over the all over the place, like,
for example, do you believe the protests in Los Angeles
against ice are quote mostly peaceful thirty eight percent, mostly
violent thirty six twenty six not sure. So the more
media that plays of violence like that's largely what's going
to inform.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
A lot of this.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I also again want to give a multifaceted picture. Do
you approve or disprove the Trump Administration's handling of deportations?
Thirty nine percent approve, fifty percent disapprove. So there's a
lot of movement, you know, within this, And that's why,
you know, it's funny because I see so much of
this happen right now where people who speak out against
like the Trump administration specific action are criticized as you
(37:00):
interlow whatever. But it's like, guys, the public does pay
attention to process. I get it, it's annoying, it's nitpicky
or whatever. But you know, if anything, if you're quote
on the team, paying attention to process really matters, especially
for something like this, because you can see you actually
have a net positive issue and then a net negative
in terms of how the way that you are handling it.
(37:21):
And that's why I think that this marine deployment in particular,
I mean, also, who knows how long this is going
to stay. One of the worst things about the jan
sixth thing. There were National guardsmen in our streets here,
Ryan for what four months? When did the first come
down at the Capitol? It took months, by the way,
I mean, that's crazy. The United States Capital is one
of the most accessible places in America, I think.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Which I think I thought it was never calm down.
I thought so too.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I mean, I mean, one of the cool things about
the capital is constituents can just walk in there and
like heckle their member of Congress. I encourage people to
do it. It's it's really fun to watch. Actually, but
that just stopped overnight. Of course the members loved it.
But yeah, But the point is is that around Washington,
I'm sure you've seen this. When I came to college here,
you could go up to the White House fence.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Now not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Lafayette Park. I think maybe in the last two years
people have been able to go. During BLM, it was
basically just shut down for like three years, which I
think is nuts.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Is bad.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You know, these are like the nation's monuments, capitals, et cetera.
And now here we have in the Los Angeles it's like, okay,
so they're being sent there as you and I know
it takes months, maybe even years for.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
People to be sent back.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
You want an active duty US Marine, you know, occupation
or whatever around the federal liberation. But it sounds secks
for them too, you know, Liberation Day. They don't want
to live in downtown Los Angeles. It's a shipple compared
to twenty nine pobs. Although apparently they don't like it
there either because it's too hot, so whatever.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
When I moved to this city, you can actually drive
along Pennsylvania Avenue.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Oh those pre nine eleven right, Yeah, I've seen videos
of that. I've never seen it. Yeah, yeah, you're just
sitting in trafficking. It's like if you watch really old
episodes of the West Wing from like nineteen ninety nine,
you'll see car You're like.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Wait, you could drive in front of the White House.
You're like, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
When they shut it down, the whole city is like
that's a major thoroughfare.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That's how we get across that city. How are you?
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I don't shut down Membrane? What post pre nine eleven
Washington d C? What was like it was the Golden age?
It certainly was okay, So that's with polling, We don't
last point of this.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
I think, yeah, this is this will be as interesting
as a trivia question a year from now, like what
was the polling like at the beginning of this, because
we have no idea where.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
This is headed. We truly don't, and that's that's going
to change everything.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Well, that's another question too around how the protesters themselves
handle this in Los Angeles, because if you continue to
see more looting or more Mexican flags and or you know,
Waymo's being although I believe WEYMO has been shut down now,
or you know, general like burning, you're going to see
NetPro But if you just see these permanent drone helicopter shots,
(39:50):
you know, and that doesn't even seem like it's particularly bad,
I think public opinion could sway pretty quickly. And it
is a big question too about how the rest of
the nation will respawned. As of yet, have not seen much. No, no,
there's nothing big going on in New York, nothing big
going on. I mean there's little pockets, few things, San Francisco, Dallas.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
These are a few hundred people.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
These are not you know, ten even ten twenty thousand, like,
let alone the millions that we originally saw back in
twenty twenty, right.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
I mean, I you know, we talked earlier about the
disorganized nature of this and and I elevated that. But
it is worth underlying underlining that they did arrest the
head of the SCIU in California. But I'm that brought
to people familiar with it.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Can you lay out exactly what happened, because I know
that that had happened, but I have not read this.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
It was like four days ago or so. It was
David Whareta.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
I don't know if he's related to Dolores where to
it was a legendary kind of civil civil rights and
immigration rights figure, labor organizer, but so he's the head
of the SCIU in California. And they were protesting these
a bunch of arrests and detentions of people in this
basement of this federal building. People who were being kept
(41:02):
for many hours in pitch dark, being given you know,
very little food and water over that period of time,
just treated like, you know, treated absolutely horribly. And so
there were very small protests around this, partly organized by
SEIU in defense of their comrades, and they arrested the
(41:23):
head of the state Chapter of the s CiU and
then a bunch of people came out. So you can
call that organized in the sense it's literally organized labor,
because this is an organized group of people who were
like they arrested, where to they did what not? Because
he's here illegally using that kind of almost a loophole.
(41:44):
What's the charge. The charge would be obstructing like you know,
a lawful like immigration arrest or something. But I call
it a loophole because if you're protesting the general policy
of like the treatment of immigrants, and a cop is
like move out of the way, and you're like, no,
I'm sitting here protesting. You can arrest them for civil
(42:05):
disobedience normally, and that's you know, that's typically how this
miss this goes a little misdemeanor in said they're saying, ah, boom,
you are, you're trying to obstruct a federal you know,
carrying out of immigration duties. And so they arrested him
for that and they're still holding him and so that
that is what really kicked off the protest.
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