6/11/25: Trump Preps Insurrection Act, Tanks Roll Into DC As Trump Threatens Protesters

Krystal and Emily discuss Trump preps for insurrection acts, tanks roll into DC for military parade.

 

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Speaker 4 (01:02):
Though, well, Christ to start the show this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, yes, we do the big show though, because the
protests are continuing, not just in Los Angeles now, they're
spreading around the entire country. New York is seeing some protesting,
Atlanta is seeing some protesting. And we have some video
clips both from Los Angeles and around the country to
start the show off with today, and we'll break down
the updates the latter's updates in the clashes between those cities,

(01:28):
particularly again between Los Angeles, California and the Trump administration.
Because Crystal, this new cycle is not slowing down.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, not at all, And I'm interested to get your thoughts.
Be your first chance on the show this week to
weigh in. Trump also gave rather disturbing, in my opinion,
a speech in front of troops at Fork Bragg yesterday.
And it's all kind of part and parcel building up
to this big military parade this weekend that happens to
be on President Trump's birthday. We've got tanks rolling into DC.
We've got some footage of that, and widespread protests planned

(02:01):
for that day as well. Trump saying that those protests
are going to be met with force, really not making
a distinction between whether they are violent or peaceful protesters.
So extremely ominous developments that we can report on this morning.
We've also got speaking of ominous, strange video that was
put out by TOOLSI I'm curious your take Emily on
what is going on there behind the scenes. But she's

(02:24):
warning rightfully so about the dire consequences of nuclear war,
and of course comes at a time of dramatic escalation
between Ukraine and Russia, so that will be an interesting
one to get to.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I mean, what's happening right now in Ukraine is
also just sort of being buried. I'm not saying wrongly,
But in the domestic news cycle, we have a really
crowded news cycle. So we have updates actually on some
more deadly attacks that we will cover, especially in that
block and Crystal Stephen A. Smith on the Daily Show.
We have a clip that everyone is definitely going to

(02:55):
enjoy enjoy, But if you hear Steven A. Smith on
the Daily Show, then you already know that you're joined
the clip in all likelihood. And some more updates from
Zora Mamdanie's race in New York City.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, looks like he has all the momentum will it
be enough? Big question there, but some interesting new poll numbers.
We've also got updates out of Israel. We've got some
comments from Greta Tundberg and the wake of her being
what President Trump calls kidnapped, which I think is accurate
by Israel and detained there for a while. Some of
the other activists are still being held in Israel, but

(03:28):
she's speaking out. We also have some new video of
the AID horror scene and new reporting about another AID slaughter. Meanwhile,
my Kakabee, who is our ambassador to Israel, saying, hey,
we're not too big on this whole two state solution thing,
really significant change in official US government policy, and we're
going to be joined this morning by tarn Steinbrckner Kaufman.

(03:50):
She is an AI expert coming at it from the
sort of liberal perspective, and so wanted to get her
take on a bunch of developments. In particular, Meta is
ponying up a massive amount of cash to try to
win the race for AGI, or artificial general intelligence. These
are extraordinary developments that could upend literally all of our lives.

(04:12):
So interested to see what Taren has to say about
all of that.

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Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah.

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Absolutely, and thanks to everybody who has availed themselves of
that offer. One last news update before we jump in.
We don't have this bus as an element in the show,
but apparently Elon I don't know, sometime late last night
tweet it out that he regards some of the things
that said about President Trump, so real four going on there.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I don't know what times on us in, but it
came at three or four in the morning, and he
said exactly what Crystal just mentioned. I regret some of
my posts about President Trump last week. So I guess
we'll stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
For more, Yes, more intrigued there, and I'm sure we
will continue to cover it all right, let's go ahead
and get to these ice protests anti ice protests that
really at this point are spreading across the country. And
we've got some video we can put up on the
screen that shows all the different places where these protests are.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Now going on.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
You know, to be fair, there had been protests prior
to this moment, but they've certainly exploded in size and
scope since you know, things kicked off in LA, and
since President Trump decided to send in the National Guard
and now also deploy the Marines. Word is that the
Marines are supposed to actually arrive in LA today. This
is the some of the images from LA from yesterday.

(05:53):
We've got New York City, you saw Chicago earlier. I
know Atlanta had protests as well. I think there are
just protest plan for even more cities put today and
going into the weekend, including places like Minnesota. You can
see Boston here as well. My understanding, Emily, I don't
know if you saw anything different this morning, but that
LA was relatively quiet last night. The mayor imposed a

(06:16):
curfew in the one square mile area of the downtown
where the protests had been located, centered around that federal
government building. So she imposed a curfew. I think anyone
who tried to defy it basically got arrested, and you know,
I think that's mostly what went down in LA yesterday.
Here you can see protesters i think, blocking a thoroughfare

(06:36):
in Los Angeles from yesterday, and we also can show
you fairly disturbing. You know, you're starting to get some
of the videos from the police response here. And remember
this is LAPD, this is not the National Guard, and
they have certainly had an overwhelming show of force. I

(06:58):
heard Soccer and Ryan talking yesterday about how difficult it
is to tell actually between the ordinary police and National
guardsmen or you know, marines, because the local police departments
are so kitted out with all of this military gear.
This really happened in the wake after the War on
Terror and the war in Iraq. All of that military

(07:19):
equipment started to come home and you know, basically every
major police department throughout the country now has looks like
they're going in ready for battle. So in any case,
to go ahead and show you this video that is
you know, really going viral, showing a woman who reportedly
just like lives in the area of where this protests
were and was trying to get home and approaches a

(07:41):
line of the LAPD cops who are there on the
scene doing crowd control, and they pretty much shoot her
with some sort of non lethal projectile, probably rub bullet,
point blank.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Let's go ahead and take a look at a little
bit of that.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
They're telling her a move, but that's a public sidewalk.
They're telling her to move. Watch if they shoot her. Whoo,

(08:23):
holy fuck, they're gonna shoot.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
We're bling stop, she's anger. Come on, we gotta get
a pup free.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
So shoot her point blank and she says, I'm just
trying to get home. We've seen a few incidences that
are like that. We also showed you previously on the
show that reporter from Australia who is also hit with
a rubber bullet. And yeah, they're not going to kill you.
They're les lethal I think they call them emily, but
they can do some damage. I've been seeing the injuries
come out in any case. Before we get into the

(08:59):
latest from Gavin Newsom and Trump's speech and all of that,
just wanted to give you a chance to give kind
of top line thoughts about what you make of this
situation and how this is all unfolding.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, I think I tend
to think people have, from a political perspective, a hierarchy
of priorities, and I think that a lot about Trump.
We're like analyzing Trump's decisions to do various different things,
whether it's you know, deporting people for anti Israel op eds,

(09:30):
students for anti Israel op eds, are attempting to deport
them for anti Israel op eds, or you know, going
turning the screws to Harvard in novel ways. I tend
to think that sometimes it's the people don't like the
way that Trump approaches the situation, but they still and
this is a mistake. I think that some like mainstream

(09:52):
Democrats make the average American still, though doesn't like what
the actual status quo policy is less. So it's not
that like people really really are, you know, on board
with Donald Trump militarizing responses to protests and they just
love it and all of that. I mean, I think
a lot of average Americans look at that and really

(10:14):
don't like to see the militarization of like local law enforcement.
Where to the point that you were saying, Sager and
Ryan were discussing, it looks like they're like in Fallujah
when they're policing like regular demonstrations, and you know, far
bit for me to defend the LAPD. Which I'm not
surprised at all by that video that we just showed,

(10:34):
which I think was sourced from Reddit of a woman
just getting popped by rubber bullet, which as she's trying
to get home, doesn't seem to be a threat to anybody,
isn't with a crowd. So yeah, I don't think anybody
likes to see those scenes. I honestly personally think that
when we have tens of thousands, I mean I pulled
up this Homeland Security report from last year of the

(10:56):
non detained people on the national Docket or ICE at
the time. So this was July twenty first, twenty twenty four,
sixty two thousand people for assault that were non detained,
convicted criminals convicted of assault roaming the country. Same thing
with dangerous drugs is how they classify it, sex crimes

(11:16):
homicide thirteen thousand people. So I think for a lot
of Americans, they are probably more similar to me aligned
on that question of like, there are tens of thousands
of people who are not detained, who are convicted criminals
who came into the country, even if they're dropping the
bucket for you know, I agree with that. I think,
actually like the Cato Institute statistics are probably correct, the

(11:38):
pro immigration statistics are probably correct that the average migrant
commits crimes at a lesser rate than the average world.
I don't take any issue with those statistics, but I
think there are a lot of dangers. I see sanctuary
city policies, sanctuary state policies, California basically a sanctuary state.
I see those as subsidies the cartels, which allow people

(12:02):
to go into the country and not be detained, not
be well I should say, I shouldn't say attained, but
not be deported, And that allowed a lot of trafficking
of people across the border, and cartel's made money off
of just about every single one of them. So I
don't like how Trump is approaching it. I also really
don't like I think I like less how California has

(12:24):
approached it over the course of the last decade. But
we likely disagree on that.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Crystal, Well, well, let's be clear you are at odds
with Steven Miller on that. Yes, because yes, what he
explicitly said and the and has implemented through ICE. He
explicitly said to the leaders of ICE, why are you
going after criminals? Go to the home depot, go to

(12:48):
the seven elevens. So the priority is not on dealing with,
you know, criminals, because the problem is that, yes, of
course there is some number of undocumented inmmigrants who have
committed crimes, been convicted of crimes, been accused of crimes,
et cetera. It is not the millions of people, and
it would not provide the mass show of force that

(13:11):
Stephen Miller wants. So you will find very few people,
including myself in this country who say, yes, we want
to keep the convicted criminal undocumented immigrants. The approach that
they're taking will make it more difficult to remove the
actual dangerous individuals that you're speaking about, and instead they

(13:32):
are targeting the you know, kids, the elementary school graduation,
the day laborer who's out just trying to get a
job and has no criminal record whatsoever. That's who they're
actually going after, and that is what sparked these protests
in la in particular, which have now really spread across

(13:53):
the country.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
You know, the big picture for me here.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Is we now have a stat of truly authoritarian, terrifying
actions being taken here by the Trump administration. I mean,
to bring in the National Guard over the objections of
local law enforcement to handle some pretty run of the
mill protests, the type of thing that you see after

(14:18):
like you know, a football team wins the Super Bowl,
or a basketball team WINBA Finals or whatever like that's
where these things started. To call in the National Guard
over the objections of the governor insane, unprecedented, truly in
terms of these dynamics. To bring in the Marines is

(14:38):
utterly deranged. Then you have this speech that we're going
to show you some clips from here in a moment
in front of active duty troops getting them to cheer for,
you know, calling GAVINUS a news scum and going after
the fake news meeting. I mean, it's just a hyper
partisan speech that you're getting active duty soldiers behind you

(14:58):
that you handpicked, by the way to make sure that
they had the right politics to be behind you to
cheer for. Then you add to that this military parade
planned for his birthday for this weekend, where he says
any protester, not just smiling person, any protesters are going
to be met with force and you know, the pattern

(15:21):
is pretty clear here. And then you mentioned some of
the other actions that have been taken, whether it's the
you know, arresting students for writing an op ed or
you know, the attacks on me, the tax on universities,
all of this amounts to an extraordinarily dangerous authoritarian power grab.
There is nothing and I'll play the Gavin Newsom sad
in a moment where he makes this. I believe he

(15:42):
makes this point in the SOD as well. There is
nothing that limits this federalizing of the National Guard to
just LA or to just California, or to just sanctuary
cities or sanctuary states or wherever it is that you
know you have a policy issue with them. There is
no limiting principle on it. And so it certainly seems
like part of the goal here is to normalize the

(16:05):
idea that it requires the US military in order to
just enforce the law. I mean, we showed you the
clip of the LAPD. They're not coming in all like
hugs and cuddles. They have thousands of cops. You know,
the Republicans are supposed to be the ones who are
all about law enforcement, like they are the ones who
are actually supposed to be trained to deal with people

(16:28):
who are lawbreakers, and so the notion that you have
to bring in marines who are trained for combat to
be deployed against American citizens is something is I think
a red line that every it's truly un American and
is a red line in my opinion that absolutely no
one should accept.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
This could get worse because to the point that you're making,
there's protests now popping up all over the place. There
is no is not necessarily a element on the Trumpet
administration's interest in expanding around the country. If anything, I mean,
I think the Trump administration is eager to have that,
and it's because I think the reason, like the political

(17:12):
explanation for it, and I don't think we disagree on
the politics from the Trump administration's perspective, but like they
want to look like they're leaning into this. They want
to look like the you know, Gavin Newsom. They hope
Gavin Newsom gets as much airtime as he can. And
we actually have a clip of Gavin Newsom giving a
primetime television address last night and have gotten a decent

(17:36):
It's gotten a decent bit of play just over the
last twelve hours or so so let's actually go ahead
and roll at e x three to get a taste
of how Gavin Newsom addressed people last night.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
This is about all of us. This is about you.
California maybe first, but it clearly will not end here.
Other states are next. Democracy is next. Democracy is under
assault before our eyes. This moment we have feared has.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Arrived, and crystal before we get to the Fort braggspeach,
which we also, as you mentioned, have clips from the
I just want to say my frustration with that is
the sanctuary state policies are why it's hard to get
the tens of thousands of convicted criminals, not even people
with chargers, but just convicted criminals like that. That's why

(18:25):
it's actually hard for law enforcement to do it, is
that they're able to be in California and in these
places like it does genuinely make it really hard. And
so I feel like what would be really de escalatory
is for Gavin Newsom to do what like Muriel Bowser
has done here in DC and start walking some of
those policy policies back. But now it's just everyone's kind

(18:46):
of has dug in because a Trump administration responded in
a way that Gavin Newsom politically is responding to in
this way and not entirely without reason. They're calling it
for his arrest, so you can see why Kavin Newsom
would react as he did. But we're absolutely no closer
to solving the legitimate problem. And many such cases, I guess,

(19:09):
such as the nature of American politics in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Well, I'm pretty sure Texas is not a sanctuary state,
correct me if I'm wrong, And they're using the same
type of tactics there, the same type of protests are
being sparked, and there is a a couple of white
cities are I think, like Houston is. But yeah, and
there are quite a large number relatively equivalent population, you know,
per capital number of undocumented immigrants in Texas as there

(19:34):
are in California. So, you know, fine, to debate sanctuary
city and sanctuary state policies, I disagree. I think it's
important and actually is good for elimination of crime and
violence to make it so that immigrants feel like they
can go to the authorities without fearing like they're going to,
you know, break up their family and be deported out

(19:55):
of the country.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Fair to criticize, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
To have a debate about that legitimate policy argument, not
legitimate to send in marines against American citizens who are
protesting at a time when you know, the governor, when
their protests are relatively limited, not out of control in
some way that the LAPD can't handle, and again zooming
out as part of a broader authoritarian crackdown and power

(20:20):
grab against dissent overall in this country. And you know,
I think part of the reason why they're now using
National Guards so you know, these active duty soldiers with
semi automatic weapons, they're using them in ice raids now
in California, I think, is to present an image of criminality,

(20:42):
because when you see this force coming in, you assume
this must be for some you know, super bad guy,
super villain to create that impression, even though who you're
really going after is like, you know, again like a
day labor at home depot or you know, a mom
with an American citizen kid, and you know, those types
of more sympathetic cases. So by militarizing the response and

(21:04):
having that look of the masked ICE agents surrounded by
the kitted up National guardsmen, you can create a perception
that these must be hard and criminals they're going after
when that is, we know not the case. I mean,
even the guys they sent to Seacoat to rot in
a slave labor camp for life, the vast majority of
them were not criminals in any respect, had no arrest

(21:28):
record whatsoever. And you have to assume the reason that
they did that is because they just have They just
there just aren't the number of undocumented criminals that they
want to project to the nation. So, you know, I
think Newsome, who I am no fan of in general,
has actually done an excellent job and a very you know,

(21:49):
most Democrats are so slow on their feet in terms
of responding and engaging, and they're only going on the
mainstream mountlets and only doing these prepackaged things. He gave
this trimetime address which I thought was relatively effective, but
he's also been out there mixed it up on Twitter.
He's done a bunch of different podcasts. He's been very

(22:09):
aggressive about combating narratives in real time in a way
that listen, I think his star had really fallen. I
think he'd really misread the moment early in Trump two
point zero, and there's just no doubt that this is
hugely elevating for him. With the Democratic base, and you know,
definitely makes him more of a contender. Not that that's
the most important thing right now whatsoever. But we've mentioned

(22:32):
now a couple of times Trump went to Fort Bragg
and gave this speech in front of the you know,
the active duty soldiers that are there, hyper partisan, hyper political,
typical like Trump rally speech, which you know, I know
nobody cares about, like the way things used to be

(22:53):
or the norms. But this is something that would have
been completely completely unthin thinkable, out of bounds whatsoever, Like
the idea of soldiers even like overtly expressing partisan political
beliefs was something that was completely out of bounds until
you know, really the Trump moment. So let's go ahead

(23:13):
and take a look at some of how that went down.

Speaker 7 (23:16):
And before going further, I want to say a few
words about the situation in Los Angeles, California. Have you
heard of the place where I've deployed thousands of National
Guard troops and hundreds of Marines to protect federal law
enforcement from the attacks of a vicious and violent mob.
And some of the radical left they say, oh, that's

(23:36):
not nice. Well, if we didn't do it, it wouldn't
be a Los Ange it'd be burning today, just like
the houses were burning a number of months ago. Generations
of army heroes did not shed their blood on distant
shores only to watch our country be destroyed by invasion
and third world lawlessness here at home, like is happening

(23:58):
in California. Commander in Chief, I will.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Not let that happen.

Speaker 7 (24:02):
It's never going to happen in Los Angeles. The governor
of California and the mayor of Los Angeles, they're incompetent,
and they paid troublemakers, agitators and insurrectionists. They're engaged in

(24:23):
this willful attempt to nullify federal law and aid the
occupation of the city by criminal invaders.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
That's what it is.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
Very simply, we will liberate Los Angeles and make it free,
clean and safe again.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
It's happening very quickly.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
But they proudly carry the flags of other countries, but
they don't carry the American flag.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
They only burn it.

Speaker 8 (24:46):
Did you see a lot of the flags being burned.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
They weren't being burned by people from our country or
from people that love our country. People that burned the
American flag should go to jail for one year.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
It's what they should be doing.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
That last piece there, something he has repeated multiple times.
You know, it has been deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court,
but I'm sure is a you know, if you pull
it is fairly popular to criminalize the burning of the
American flag. But in in case, Emily, what do you
make of the dynamics of the President Derek giving this
hyperpartisan speech and you know, eliciting cheers and booze from

(25:28):
the active duty soldiers there.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
At Fort Bragg. I agree with what you said as
we were queuing up the video that it's something if
Barack Obama did it, if even John McCain did it,
nobody would be happy to some extent, because it's Donald Trump,
it's something that we're numb to. And I also think
not without reason, because he's still, at least for now,

(25:52):
an exception to how he handles a lot of these situations.
I mean, even I can't envision jd Vance doing anything
quite like that. I can't envision a Democrat who I
think would do anything quite like that. But we don't
really know what happens to these norms after Donald Trump
is no longer president. So yeah, it's just one of

(26:15):
the sisters, like, I don't know if this is something
that we are still in this like temporary Trump moment,
or if this is something that continues afterwards.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I think that's a good point because perhaps at this moment,
he's the only one who can get away with this,
treating the military as his own personal army effectively, and
that's certainly the way that he wants them to behave,
that's certainly the way people want to perceive them, and

(26:46):
maybe now at this moment, because he's so outrageous in
so many regards, he's the only one who can even
remotely get away with that. But once that bridge is
crossed and that approach to you know, the military deploying
the military against US citizens and routinely using Marines for
law enforcement in American cities, once that sort of thing

(27:08):
becomes normalized, then it doesn't just stay with Trump. There's
a bridge that's crossed and a genie that's out of
the bottle that's very hard, if not impossible, to put
back in. And I think that's what is so incredibly
alarming to be and others about this moment. It just
give you a little bit of backstory. Jane Cousten was

(27:31):
able to obtain the sort of like memo that went
out about how they picked these guys to be standing
there behind Trump. She got this note that says they
need everyone seated by this time. Soldiers sitting in the
bleachers are to be fit and not look fat. Classic
soldiers in the bleachers will not be allowed to have water,
so they must hydrate in no colored patches. If any
soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the

(27:53):
current administration, and they don't want to be in the
audience and they need to speak with their leadership and
get swapped out. Basically, they don't want soldiers not audio
is rolling their eyes or shaking their head in disagreement,
et cetera. So they basically put out like a casting
call here to get the you know, the guys with
the right political views are going to be loyal to Trump,
who aren't going to be rolling their eyes or shaking

(28:14):
their head or you know, not enthusiastic enough, not cheering
and laughing and applauding at the laugh lines and the
cheer lines, et cetera. And so that was how they,
you know, were able to create this this moment, this
authoritarian strongman moment for president Trump where it appears like
the military is serving as his sort of like you know,

(28:37):
personal uh, marching band, cheerleaders, his his force directly rather
than the servants and protectors of the American people. There
were also I mentioned before, he's got this military parade
coming up this weekend in DC. That is going to
be a very you know, that's going to be a

(29:00):
troubling moment because he announced in the Oval Office yesterday
that those any protests, which they're already protests planned for Saturday,
for that day, that any protest will be met with force,
making no distinction between peaceful and violent protesters.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Let's go ahead and take a listen to that.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
Maybe there a little bit, but it seems to be
getting less and less because they're going there. They met
with a very heavy force, and if they weren't, you
would have that say right now, would be on fire.
It would be burning down the rest of it, what's
left over, because the other fire was started because they
wouldn't allow water into LA. They wouldn't allow water into
California because they had it all shifted out to the

(29:40):
Pacific Ocean. Then I turned it around, called him up
to tell him kind to do a better job. He's
doing a bad job, causing a lot of death and
a lot of potential death. If we didn't send out
the National Guard, and last time we gave him a
little additional help, you would have Los Angeles would be
burning right now.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
The reaction to these large scale height operations in Los Angeles,
should people expect to see similar operations in the.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
Rest of the country and we'll similar protests.

Speaker 7 (30:08):
The out and what was always as you know, we're
moving murders out of our country that we're put here
by Biden or the Autopen.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
The Autopen really did.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
A very simple rule of engagement. If they're dangerous, if
they're throwing concrete or bricks, if they're spitting in the
face of the police or whoever's in front of them,
if they're punching people, if they're doing all of the
things that you see done for the last three nights,
that I would say is engagement.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
So that was actually more specifically about what's going on
in California. I think we have the sought for the
next block about the military parade where he says, you know, protesters,
we met with overwhelming force, but you know he's making
these claims, say oh La California and beyond fire if
we hadn't sent the National guardsmen. The reality is most
of the National guardsmen that have been sent I think
it's like four thousand at this point, have not been

(30:56):
given orders, are not really doing doing much of anything.
In fact, local law enforcement LAPD is having a divert
resources to protect the National cartsman who've been given no orders,
in nothing to do, which underscores the fact that, I mean,
even Trump himself has said that things have quieted down
in LA. Of course he wants to take credit for it,

(31:17):
but underscores the fact that, as Newsome and Karen Bass
have been saying, the scope of the protests which were
within like largely within like one square mile a few
city blocks in downtown LA, were well within the capability
of the LAPD to handle. And you know, bringing in
the National Guard did nothing but inflame tensions and make

(31:39):
the protests much larger than they would have been otherwise.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
So also to the point Crystal about where this goes
from here, let's put a two on the screen. This
is an indication that the protests are going to continue
to spread to other cities. As a report from NBC News,
we should also go through a three. This is Jennifer
Griffin of Fox News noting that the seven hundred Marines
ordered to help in LA have not yet arrived to

(32:08):
help control the riots. The Marines will remain at Seal
Beach south of LA and will be undergoing training for
a few more days, which Crystal. A few more days
of training in a situation like this sounds like a
delay that's intentional to make it look like the Marines
were involved without ever actually putting the Marines in the situation.

(32:33):
Because after a few days of training, which is already
rather nebulous, I don't know that they actually are going
to find a situation where they put the Marines in
Los Angeles. So that's an interesting one to watch as well.
It almost is like Pete haig Seth wanted to respond
to Donald Trump's suggestion and said, Okay, We've got the

(32:55):
Marines on it, and they're they're undergoing their training for
you know, civil unrest, and then while the riot's over.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, well, I mean the reporting I saw as are
supposed to arrive today, so we'll see. I hope that
your analysis is the correct one. It also just underscores
the case like Marines are not trained for crowd control.
They are trained for offensive combat missions, not to go
in and act in a law enforcement enforcement capacity against

(33:27):
American citizens. So, like I said that, what I saw
is that they're meant to arrive today. We'll see what
happens there and what use they're put to.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
And if they're already arriving after the mayor has implemented
a curfew.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Curfew that basically quieted down. Now, I do think there's
another major flashpoint this weekend with the protests, and you know,
ice rates are continuing. What I read in the La
Times this morning is they're actually expanding outside of the
city into more rural areas, you know, going after farm
daily laborers and things of that nature. So you know,

(34:03):
the ice rates are not going to stop. So the
provocation that originally sparked the protests are not going to
end either. So you know, certainly the conflagration, I think
it's way too early to say that that is over.
There's a lot of reasons to still be really concerned
about where this is all headed.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
There has been some some legal action that we wanted
to update you on. Gavin Newsom put this up on
the screen. Voden emergency motion to block Trump's I believe
and he agrees a legal deployment of Marines and National
Guard in LA. He was asking for this a decision
to be made on this and a tro to be
issued within two hours. The judge said, no, we're not

(34:41):
going to issue a tro in the timeframe that you want. Instead,
a hearing is set for Thursday to consider the merits
of the lawsuit here. And you know, in terms of
the legality, Trump has not invoked the Insurrection Act, which
would give him much more broad powers. Instead, he used

(35:02):
these it's called Title ten powers that seem on their
face to require the consent and for the governor to
actually be the one that issues the order to federalize
the National Guard, I mean, the deployment of the Marines.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
What legal pretext they are using to justify any sort
of use of the Marines in a law enforcement setting
in LA. So that seems to be to be even
more tenuous. But we'll see what the courts have to
say about all of this.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Well, christ to say, actually we have a five. This
is the next element to put on the screen. This
is from the San Francisco Chronicle, reporting that says, we
obtained a memo from DHS Secretary Christie no I'm asking
d D Secretary Pete Haigsatz the grant soldiers the authority
to detain or arrest quote unquote lawbreakers in LA. This
would be a step towards the Trump administration invoking the
Insurrection Act. Experts say, so to the question that you

(35:53):
just raised, are they trying to pave the path to
the Insurrection Act with some of this? I think is
an open question as well, especially with the reporting and
actually what we saw last night about expansions into other cities.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I think it's quite likely.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
In a six Stephen Miller has been really leading the
sort of propaganda charge, and he says here that this
is the definition of insurrection. LA and California leadership demand
the right to illegally import unlimited foreigners into America, to
control America's entire immigration policy by FIAT, and if they're
not so permitted, they'll allow mobs to target Ice with

(36:31):
impunter I mean, this is just absurd. First of all,
you know, we we've had court rulings at this point.
Steven Miller is always using the language of invasion. We've
had multiple courts rule at this point in the context
of alien enemies ec this is not an invasion. This
is you know, absurd, like, this is way beyond the
bounds of what that language would imply. And it's not

(36:53):
like Newsome and Bass were standing in the way of
Ice rates. You know, he makes it sound like they
were blocking lawn for the ICE from doing anything and
going in and you know, deporting immigrant. That's just not
the case whatsoever. But I think the important thing here
is the use of the word insurrection and the attempt

(37:14):
to lay the groundwork, the rhetorical groundwork to build up
to an invocation of the Insurrection Act, which I've been
pointing out. On Day one, Trumpet signed an executive order saying, hey,
check into it was Christy Doom and a couple other
off I think heg Seth, I don't remember a couple
other officials. Hey do an analysis and tell me whether

(37:36):
I should invoke the Insurrection Act now. So he's been
looking for an excuse to do this. We've also got
reporting now that he's been from the jump looking for
a pretext in order to send in federalized National Guard,
send in troops, potentially invoke the Insurrection Act. So I
certainly think it is very likely that we are building

(37:57):
up to exactly that, especially as protests build in cities,
in blue cities across the country.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
In particular, you pulled out this quote from a Wall
Street Journal report yesterday. This is a seven that basically
it shows this is I'll read it. In Coral Springs, Florida,
at least eight agents and tactical gear shields and rifles
surrounded a home with guns raised to arrest a father
with no criminal history. And Irvine, California, ICE agents drove

(38:23):
a phalanx of military vehicles in the Orange County suburb
to arrest a person, though not for legal immigration. They
were seeking a resident son who had allegedly posted flyers
alerting neighbors to the presence of ICE agents. Crystal, that
goes to the point that you were making earlier in
the block about actually whether some of these excessive and

(38:46):
arguably incompetent instances of trying to subdue you know, either
non criminal aliens or American citizens, does that actually hurt
ultimately the effort to take convicted criminals out of the country.
For the Trump administration to take tens of thousands of

(39:06):
convicted criminals out of the country. It's certainly a hell
of an anecdote there from the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, I mean posting flyers is clearly protected First Amendment activity.
And so you're sending in a failanx of military vehicles
to go after someone's son who posted some flyers. I mean,
this is insane and I think you know the first
instance was with regard to it was in Florida, again

(39:32):
not a sanctuary state, but they felt that the numbers,
Steven Miller felt that the numbers were too low when
they were largely focusing on, you know, trying to find
criminal undocumented immigrants. So they are taking much more aggressive tactics.
As we've discussed before, part of the plan here is
to be so insane, so cruel, so over the top

(39:57):
that you scare people into self deporting themselves. That was
the point of Seacott. There are also plans now that
have been reported out to send thousands more immigrants, largely
actually European immigrants to Guantanamo Bay. And so you know
this is the goal, and it ties in also with
the quote unquote big Beautiful Bill, which would provide vastly

(40:18):
more resources to ICE, both in terms of manpower and
in terms of partnering with private prison contractors to build
out these massed attention facilities. So you know, these shows
of force are very intentional, even though they are in
certain instances unconstitutional and wildly, wildly unnecessary. Again, I do

(40:45):
think part of that is when you have this show
of huge numbers of agents coming in fully kitted out
in military vehicles, you know, with their military gear, the
public perception of some is so they must be going
after a criminal, even when it's a dad with no
criminal record, even when it's a sun for posting flyers.

(41:09):
So this is, you know, this imagery and this approach,
it's all very intentional. I also find it really disturbing
the way that they the ICE agents have taken too
oftentimes wearing plane clothes and fully masking and obscuring their
their face. And I think that is, you know, deeply
un American and deeply disturbing, and it's led to some instances.
Already there was a there have been a couple instances

(41:32):
I've seen where people have posed as ICE agents and
in order to themselves commit crimes. The other thing that
I think it's important to note is they've diverted resources
in the FBI and other you know, law enforcement agencies
within the federal government to this mass deportation effort which

(41:53):
takes them off of other the ability to go after
other criminal activity. So, you know, back to your original
point about what you would like to see happen at
how you'd like to see this focus on, you know,
getting people who have committed crimes and who are on
documented immigrants out of the country. That is not at all,
you know, they do not at all have a focus
on criminals, whether it's undocumented or otherwise.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Instead, the focus really is.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
On creating the sense of terror and horror among the
entire immigrant community so that people will themselves self deport
so that their base will get the red meat that
they want, and also, I think partly to try to
you know, to trigger a reaction from the public that
justifies even more of an authoritarian crackdown, which is exactly
what we're seeing unfold right now.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
It's a very frightening state of affairs because I actually
am sympathetic to a lot of these agents like our
run of the mill and were likely to disgroun on
this run of the mill ice agent who you know
has a family, is trying to provide for them and
is getting you know, videotaped and shot all over social

(42:56):
media all of that. But it's part of the job
at this point. And so it's one of the frustrating
things I think about the Trump era in general is
that the responses to a lot of I think legitimate
problems and problems with you know, I would say like
sympathetic at least from my perspective on the right problems,
the reaction is it does go and sometimes, like you

(43:19):
use the phrase anti American, I mean, I do think
having masked law enforcement officers pulled people off the streets
is and some of them have been citizens, by the way.
We've seen videos of that, so you know, it's it's
a fright state of affairs when you have people who
are in the country illegally not even wanting to show
up to the court hearings because they're deporting people at

(43:40):
the court hearings, which again it's another sort of like
get it if it's your job to deport people who
are overseeing visas and are in the country illegally, But
then people don't even participate in the process anymore because
they're afraid of being deported. So it's setting up they
as a response to a very legitimate crisis I think

(44:04):
created by the buy An administration. It's it's setting us
up for a lot of unrest. I feel like, actually, Crystal,
this this really is just the beginning. But uh, we've
earned a laugh. So I think we should watch the
Waymos fleeing.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yes, wamos are exiting La here they are full service
in downtown La amid ice protest. The Waymos are fleeing
the scene after a new novel protest tactic of summoning wamos.
I didn't even realize, to be honest with you, that
WEIMO use was as widespread as it is in California.
But to be honest, that's that's kind of interesting of itself.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
But the tactic is summoning the Waymos.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
To like them on fire.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
So it's kind of funny.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
It is kind of funny, kind of funny. What I said,
don't do what I said.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I don't know if this was on air air, but
what I was saying is like, listen, if we have
an organized war against the robots, I'm here for it, Like, yes,
let's do that. But if we're just doing this as
like I am one who I'm not particularly sympathetic to
the usefulness of setting a weamo on fire and jumping
on top.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Of it with a Mexican flag. Look, I get it.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I'm not like it's not a moral issue, but I
don't think that it is. You can see the way
the Trump administration is like jumped on these images and
absolutely loves them. So it's not the most helpful thing
in the world, no.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
But the way most fleeing in unison, I think it's
just helpful from a levity perspective because we could all
use it. At this point, Christal, we've talked a lot
actually about the expected military parade here in Washington, DC
on Saturday, So let's get to the updates on that story.

(45:50):
Massive presence here in Washington. There are lots of videos
going viral. You can see it of tanks being loaded
in brought on flatbeds to the city. Let's go ahead
and listen to what Donald Trump had to say about
this yesterday.

Speaker 8 (46:04):
We can roll b one celebrating big on Saturday, We're
gonna have a lot of and if there's any protesters
once to come out, they will be met with very
big force. By the way, for those people that want
to protest, They're going to be met with very big force.
And I haven't even heard about a protest, but you know,
this is people that hate our country, but they will
be met with very heavy force.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
All right, So estimated price tag between twenty five and
forty five million dollars. We can start dozing.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Bring elon and the chainsaw back. Let's doje it.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Here's B two. You can actually see why the price
tage just as high as it is. This is tanks
rolling into DC, the Washington Monument in the background. It's
going to be down I believe Constitution Avenue on Saturday
between like six and nine pm I think is roughly
when it's scheduled to go for And this is yeah,

(47:00):
I mean you're you're looking at tanks rolling down the
streets now, Crystal. Before we tossed to whether the roads
are equipped to handle this, that's a different question. Trump
the legend here. Everyone remembers Trump tried to do this
in his first term after going to France seeing a
French military parade and wanting to bring it back to

(47:25):
the United States. People like Gematis were uncomfortable with it.
In Trump one point zero. But now Trump is you know,
much more staff by loyalist Pete Hegseth is an obvious
example of that. People who are ideologically aligned with him
and aligned with sort of going along with his mission,
or they're aligned with that sort of that loyalty to Trump.

(47:48):
Let's put it that way, and have really no hesitation
about going along with this. There is a scheduled day
of defiance or a planned day of defiance, more protests
on Saturday. The Washington Post is reporting this is B three.
We've heard about this actually since Trump said he was
going to do the military parade here in DC. We've

(48:09):
heard that they're actually needing to put metal plates, and
I've seen some of them. Actually, they're not fun if
you're like biking around, but they've had to reinforce the
road with metal plates to prevent damage. When you have
one hundred vehicles in addition to, as the Post reports,
thousands of soldiers, dozens of tanks, and more than one

(48:30):
hundred other vehicles scheduled for that procession along Constitution Avenue.
The gross weight so the ones that are supported by
the government, that can be supported by the government vehicles
would be eighty thousand pounds, but the Abrams tanks each
way about seventy tons. There's twenty eight of those planning
that the administration is planning to roll down in the

(48:52):
parade again for the Army's two hundred and fiftieth birthday,
which I will say actually is on Saturday. It actually
does coincide with Donald Trump's birthday and Saturday in the summer,
sort of a I don't know Chrystal, whether that's an
unfortunate coincidence for Trump, it's clearly a fortunate coincidence, But
I think he would be doing something for the Army's

(49:13):
two hundred and fiftieth birthday, to be honest, anyway, he
really wanted to have this military parade. Maybe what would
the what would the QAnon people say about that? Maybe
there's something we're supposed to be reading into this, something.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I've lost I've lost the threat a bit with where
the QAnon people are at this point. I think there's
splinter factions. I know there are some who had turned
on Michael Flynn, some who were still, you know, still
in league with Michael Flynn.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
So I've lost touch a little bit with with where
they are at this point.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
They're probably out there justifying Palentiner, taking all of our
data and creating this giant panopticon as somehow fighting the
deep state is probably what they're up to at this point.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
But trust I mean process.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Listen, if this was a one off and you were
just having military parade and there wasn't not guardsmen who'd
been federalized over the objections of the California governor in
the street, marines being deployed against American citizens, a US
congresswoman who was just indicted on charges that could get

(50:12):
hurt seventeen years in prison. By the way, if you
didn't have Trump out there saying that we are going
to meet protesters with overwhelming force, making no distinction between
whether they were peaceful or whether they were violent, maybe
then you'd go. And that's a waste of money. It's
going to mess up the DC streets, which really don't
need that. You know, DC budget really doesn't need the

(50:34):
extra tens of millions of dollars is going to take
to repair the damage, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
But is it the biggest deal in the world.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
No. When you put all of those pieces together, it
really does feel like you are building to a crescendo
of authoritarian power grab sorry, fascist imagery that is quite
intentional and quite frightening and quite overwhelming. And that's not

(51:01):
even to mention the things that we talked about before,
the attacks on public universities, the crushing of descent and
free speech. The counter terrors are basically framing anyone who
is a protester of any of these administration's policies as
providing material support for terrorists. The afore mentioned Talenteer database

(51:23):
that seeks to surveil and compile all of the data
on everyone who's in the country, you at, citizen and
not so that that crushing of descent can be wielded
much more effectively. When you put all of these pieces together,
troubling does not begin to describe it. And so I
think this is a very fraught, combustible moment with potentially

(51:48):
dire and far reaching consequences for the direction that this
country goes in. And especially, you know, when you do
have large scale protests that have been pre planned, which
you know, people should have the right to protest their government.
That's kind of, you know, a core American value. When
you have those protests planned, when you already have Trump

(52:09):
and Stephen Miller and others providing the rhetorical justification to
launch this mass crackdown. I think everyone, I don't care
where you are on the political spectrum, I think everyone
should be deeply concerned for what that means for your rights,
for the rights of you know, your friend's family, your neighbors,
for your ability to dissent from anything this government or

(52:30):
a future regime does as well. I think we're on
very very treacherous ground and that it will be difficult
to walk back from some of the things that are
being done right now.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
In this time.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Let's put before on the screen. This is a local
news breakdown of the expected cost here. So Trump has
said on Meet the Press that the cost is peanuts
compared to the value of doing it, but again that
number is potentially as high as forty five million dollars,
and they broke down even like six teen million of
that could come from just repairing the roads afterwards. So

(53:05):
you know, they're also advertising really heavily in the area
within like five hours of DC, roughly five hours of DC,
trying to get people to come to it. I think
that's another open question about this. What we can look
at here on B five is counter protests that are
planned to spread throughout the country, and one of the
things Crystal. Building on what you were just talking about,

(53:27):
I wanted to mention is these are being rallied, These
are being organized under the banner of No Kings, and
so if you look at the map here there are
planned counter protests all over the country, but no Kings.
I think it's really interesting branding. And I think it's
really interesting branding for a counter protest movement Jax opposed

(53:47):
with the resistance movement of twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty because No Kings is implicitly and inherently patriotic,
and I think appeals to the patriotism of the average
American in a way that resistance never did. So I'm
curious what you make of that, Crystal, because I think, uh,

(54:09):
that's actually a very for the left. Positive development.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yeah, I think it is a smart framing and I
think app and that the cat has just joined.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
As you see behind.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Kings except for Salem, except for Salem, and Salem as
are that's definitely the king in this household.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
But No, I think it is. I think it is
intelligent branding.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
And this is why you know, I know Soger and
it seems like you feel like, oh, the crackdown in LA,
like this is going to play into Trump's hands. And
you know, I'm like really leery at this point of
offering political predictions because I think things have been so
difficult to predict ultimately.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
But I don't. I think this is too much, too fast.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Where the fears of Trump and the worst, you know,
worst concerns, the gravest concerns about how this man would
behave if you gave him the power of the presidency
again are just undeniably present. You know, if you look
at the polling, people are not crazy about the protesters.

(55:17):
People are never crazy about protesters. Although actually, with the
exception of the BLM protesters, they were overwhelmingly popular. But
even if you look back at like the Civil Rights movement,
you know, those protesters were also not popular. If you
look at Trump's response to it, using marines against protesters,
wildly unpopular. His ratings on immigration still okay, they're his

(55:38):
best ratings, but he's barely above water if he is
at all. That's in like the best polls. Some of
the polls find his deportation like ratings even on things
like deportations deeply underwater.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Americans they don't want a king.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
I do think there is a reaction against this, very
clear like power grab, and there are so much in
the floods of the zone strategy that is hitting people
in the face right now that I would not be
so confident if I was the Republicans that this politically
is to their benefit. Now, maybe their plan is for

(56:15):
it not really to matter that much what the American
people think about it. Maybe their plan is to continue
with their power grab such that dissent is crushed, that
there is limited ability to voice your concerns electorally. I'm
not talking like, oh, they're going to cancel elections or whatever,
but you can see scenarios where the pretext of crushing

(56:38):
protests is used to take control of some of the
voting apparatus.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
You could certainly.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I mean, it's very easy to imagine situations where they
just outright reject whatever the election results are that are
unfavorable to them. So maybe they don't particularly care about
the politics of it, but to the extent they do,
I think this is much more treacherous than they imagine,
especially when you know the reality of what who is
being deported in the way that it's being handled. Is

(57:07):
staring people in the face. You know, they're having to
grapple with the pregnant mom who's married to an American citizen,
or the you know, the dad with no criminal record
who has all the agents show up at his house,
or the son who's just like posting flyers and is
being met with this insane use of force. Because the
truth of the matter is emily that there is no

(57:28):
ability to do a mass deportation strategy that doesn't involve
a massive police state that is going to impact literally everyone,
and I think we've already seen that with the crushing
of the you know, the pro Palestine dissent, because by definition,
you have to sore down, okay, who is citizen and

(57:49):
who is non citizen. That means that you were going
to have to you know, inquire and have your surhil
and state hit citizens as well.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
The money that's in the.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Budget for the big beautiful bill for ice for detention centers,
there's no way to just keep that confined to whatever
population it is. I think it's mostly like, you know,
if you look at the pulling people very comfortable as
they should be with deporting like criminal and documented immigrants.
You go beyond that the numbers actually really fall off
a cliff. And when you ask specifically about people have

(58:21):
no criminal record who have been here for a long time,
I'm talking it's like seventy five twenty five that people
feel like, why are you.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Messing with these people?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
They are just like living their lives and not causing
people any kind of harm. So again, maybe they don't
care about the politics, which is what is a terrifying
I think in real possibility. But to the extent they do,
I don't think they are as on nearly as firm
a ground as they feel they are right now.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
No, I mean I think they care about the politics.
I think they're also some of them are very online.
But I actually I also still think on the narrow
question of the riots, I do think it's I do
more soccer on that life, like it's it's helpful to
Trump because people like Gavin Newsom still haven't addressed the

(59:08):
problem that voters care more about in a satisfactory way.
But that aside, the no kingsing is really interesting to
me because I feel like that's sort of this man
is having a forty five million dollar, potentially forty five
million dollar military parade, happens to fall on his birthday,
and he is like in some cases encouraging snowflakery from

(59:30):
like law enforcement that has to cover their faces and
anti americanly. I think there's something that Dems can tap
into that is almost emasculating, but not in the way
that the Resistance thought that they had him by claiming
there was a pe tape and you know, having those
disgusting blow up balloons of him everywhere he went where
it was like naked, it was just weird, didn't work,
and Crystal, you know this because you live outside of DC,

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like there was something. There is something very real for
a lot of people who maybe don't love Trump but
continue to vote for him and continue to sympathize with
him or agree with him over Democrats on some of
these culture war questions because they do love America. The
people can disagree with this, but they feel like Trump

(01:00:14):
loves America. And again, you could disagree with that. You
can hate that everything's wrong, but that's something that people
like about Trump is that he seems to like the country.
And I do think that's a mistake that Democrats made
in the resistance era was not meeting so many people
where they are on that question, and it allowed them
to look unpatriotic and allowed the American people to think
that they're unpatriotic because they weren't kind of leading with

(01:00:36):
that question in particular. And I think that's why the
No King's branding is actually very very smart for the left.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Interesting, Yeah, I mean, I think that it is an
intelligent branding, and especially I mean, this is the way
he behaves in everything, you know, even with the tariffs,
wanting people to come and like, yeah, been the knee,
you know, he wants to make it so that Fema
is ad is dispatched at his bequest, you know. Is
this is the way that he operates in every respect,

(01:01:06):
and so when you put the label on it, all
these pieces fit together, including the use of the American
US military as his own private force. Secretary of the
Army actually called it Trump's army or his army this
morning on Fox News. So they really are pushing that

(01:01:27):
and trying to normalize that sense that this is a
force that should be wielded at the whims of the president,
which is not the way that obviously that is fundamentally
anti American, un American, and that is consistent with the
way that a king would behave, not a duly elected
president of the United States. So yeah, I agree with

(01:01:47):
you that I think it's it's intelligent branding. We'll see
how widespread the protests are, We'll see what the crackdown
is going to be. And the last thing I'll say
on this is I also think that there is just
something deeply disturbing about watching all of these tanks being
rolled into DC that hits on a visceral level as well.
You know, we talked about the optics of the protests
and what people take from that, et cetera. And you know,

(01:02:10):
I'm not one that says like, oh, that doesn't matter
and we can't talk about or whatever. But I think
equally damning are the optics of tanks rolling into the
nation's capital for a celebration of the president's birthday. That's
just with many people, that is just not going to
sit right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Speaking of the Teriffs, brothers, tiny bit of news on
this front, actually massive bit of news in this front.
Trump has posted while we were recording Crystal that the
deal with China is done, subject to final approval with
President Sheet and me full magnets and any necessary rare
earth will be supplied upfront by China. Likewise, we will
provide to China what was agreed to, including Chinese students
using our colleges and universities, which has always been good

(01:02:49):
with me, he says. And we're getting a total of
fifty five percent tariff. China is getting ten percent, And
of course he ends his post in my favorite sign off,
thank you for your attention to this matter. So, Chris, so,
thank you for your attention to this matter.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Yeah, well, they apparently really I guess didn't think through
the whole rare Earth situation. Kind of freaked out about that.
So that is interesting. I'm sure Soccer and I'll dig
into that more tomorrow. I feel like we talked too
long about la and Trump, So maybe should we should
we skip over Tulsi and her weird nuclear warning video
and jump straight ahead to John Stewart.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
What do you think people can look up the weird
Tulsi video. They should look up the weird Tulsi video.
There would have there's maybe we'll talk about it on Friday,
but there's there's some interesting stuff to dig into.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
It is a good Friday topic. Yeah, let's do it.
Let's do it for Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I mean, the response to it is like probably even
more unhinged video. But to me, top line take, this
is like what happens when you have someone who is
an influencer put in a position of power. They never
really let go of their and my quick take hold
on the influencer world.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
My quick take is that Tulsi's freaked out by all
of the deep sit people that she works with now
and we should mention before we let the guoks. We
teast it up at the top crysal that there have
been significant escalations in the Russia Ukraine conflict that are
getting buried in the domestic news cycle. The BBC headline
this morning is record number of drone attacks signals dangerous,
dangerous shift in the war, large gale, Russian droone attacks

(01:04:13):
on Ukrainian cities are on the rise. There was a
bombardment Monday night, and so this is not We've covered
this many times in the last couple of weeks, but
this is not de escalating with the presidency that promised
to end it in twenty four hours, even if that
was sarcastic or hyperbolic. We are into June here, so

(01:04:34):
about six months in so nothing seems to sadly, there
does not seem to be a light at the end
of the tunnel. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Indeed, indeed, a very very troubling situation and series of
escalatory actions that we've been watching unfold there, you know,
with the with the Russians, but with the Ukrainian drone
swarm attack inside of Russia, and now Russia responding with
an aggressive attack directly on Kievs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
And Telsa Gabbert's video. The connective to she was that
she was talking warning about the imminent

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Threat of the consequences of nuclear war exactly