War, Inflation, and the Price of Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, America dumb bombed Iran.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Scary times, man, especially just looking at how much of
the commentary in the past has been actively trying to
avoid this and then like full on doing it with
little to no notice is wild.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Well, it's all. It's all scary for so many reasons.
But what I've heard is that you know, and there's
of course TikTok and beams like everyone's like, hey, I
don't want to let Ron know it wasn't me, I'm
on your side whatever, which is problematic in its own right,
because Iran is doing up to some shadiness right right,

(00:38):
BA fan, Welcome to the Brown Table. I am joined
by og Brown Table guests. We have jan Nelly Espinal
aka miss be Helpful and just Chris.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Already off the back, already off.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Just the energy is just horrible to start and.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Peggy, now Hamilton's back so I can sing that Chris
is just that your name just says Chris, Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
It does around. I was just trying to get in
the room because if for you who don't know, Mandy
was sending me all kinds of wrong links. I was
just happy to be able to get in the room finally.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well, thanks for test driving the Patreon link. By the way,
if you guys joined the Patreon, you too could be
in the audience live to watch the Shenanigans up close
before I edit out. You could actually hear what Chris
has to say.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Really love that, No way, I love that. Imagine actually
being fully behind the scenes like the whole time, and
only you get to see for what really goes on.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
And then y'all can be like m I heard what
Mandy had edited out was Chris said something smart and
she was too intimidated. She didn't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
You're like, because when I listened to the podcast, Chris
is only only for about ten seconds. I didn't know
he was in the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I wish there was more. But we're gonna, yeah, Chris,
Chris is going to be prominent today, y'all. So you're
welcome or I'm sorry, but yes, if you are a Patreon,
we'll go to the show notes right now. If you
want to check it out, you can totally join for free,
but if you're a paid Patreon member. What I think
is my favorite perk that I came up with in
my brain is that you can join Brown Tables Live

(02:15):
every Monday when I record, so you'll get a link.
You can be in the audience. You can ask your
questions live. What else can they do in here? I
don't know. You could chat us, you could distract us, notes,
take notes, you can point out if I have anything
problematic on the shelf behind me, like a child's toy.
Today I have the brand Ambition book Club pick sky
full of Elephants. Yes, I wish I could wrap all

(02:36):
my books like the library does right wpover.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's protected, just a nice little protected, protective book cover.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
It doesn't fall off like low Ki. I don't like
book jackets because they just they go flying.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Literally last night last night I was reading I just
started this new nonfiction book and I was reading it
in the bed and the freaking book jacket just kept
slipping and sliding, and I just threw the thing all right,
so annoying.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
The aesthetic gone, so like, why don't they stick it?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Why why isn't it crintit on the cover itself? Maybe
it didn't last as long, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
No, it's more expensive because it's a separate manufacturing process.
When they just print the cover book of the book
with just fabric.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
And then they can like switch it out. When you
become on the New York Times bestseller, they can just
put a sticker on it or change the text and
then just they don't got to reprint books.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I do know. Let's do a quick little round of
life updates. We just came through June teenth. We do
bombed the country that actually the people who celebrated Juneteenth,
we had nothing to do with that exactly. Now.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Was that was that consulted on that decision?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Not not at all. If Congress wasn't, then we definitely weren't.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know what, I just want to real quick, I
want to give a shout out to the Studio Museum
in Harlem in New York City, because when I was
fifteen years old, I interned at the museum. I did
a special internship program which was for students that were
interested in the arts. And I was a baby, y'all.
It was two thousand and five, and they taught us
about Juneteenth and had us canvassing industry to educate the

(04:08):
community in Harlem about Juneteenth. To celebrate with the cookout,
they invited people into the community into the museum. They
had a whole exhibit showing James Vandersey's photography from the
Black Renaissance. And when I tell you, I was fifteen
years old, my little Dominican American self from Brooklyn had
never even heard of Juneteenth. And this was back in
two thousand and five. And I feel like now people

(04:28):
are starting to learn about Juneteenth and the history. And
I've been known since the early two thousands because of
the Studio Museum in Harlem, which has been doing a
lot of education. So shout out to them. I just
got to say.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
That day, that's so cool.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I didn't learn about Juneteenth, and I was much older,
like it was that. Never once in school was it mentioned.
You just didn't even know it was the thing.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I just went to the barbecues. I didn't really put
two and three together the history cues we're hanging out.
It's just what black people do. I did not put
the two two the causes of a barbecue collinto college. Yeah,
but there's so much that we haven't learned. It's embarrassing.
But while I kind of got distracted by Juneteeth, though

(05:09):
I was in Atlanta for a few days for a
very exciting thing. I've been sharing a little bit with
BA fan about my dad's situation, and I love that
he has no idea how to ever listen to this
show because he has no idea how much of his business. No,
he straight up texted every time he's in the hospital,
not that he goes, he goes kind of off, but
he'll text me. Be like, don't y'all answer anyone's dms

(05:32):
from nosy neighbors or friends or family who wants to
know about my business? And I was like, well, the
fine print you did not include. I couldn't mention on
my podcast. Community got to kid me.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes yoge, which, oh my goodness, Congress your daddy, Congress
your family.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
That is huge, girl, and huge, huge shout out to
my sister Mallory. She has a different father. She's not
a match for my dad. But she donated a kidney altruistically,
which is just because she wanted to. But the reason
she did it is because that bumped my dad up
the list. I think they said it was it could
take like up to three years for him to get

(06:11):
a kidney. Some people are on there for a decade
because you get kicked off, you get back on. But
all in all, it's it hasn't I don't know if
it's sunk in because it's been such an intense couple
of years with his health. But yeah, less than two years.
He has a brand new kidney. My sister donated back
in January. She had a by the way, she had
a ton of complications that I that were just terrible.

(06:35):
But she's come out mostly on the other side healthy,
my dad. And so it's January to now June, so
six months. And also his donate, his donate, his kidney
was donated by an altruistic donor in Indiana, So thank
you too, whoever that was.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
That is so cool.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
And uh, he's paying like a champ. No more dialysis.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Listen, listen with the little things that we take for
granted every day, like sitting on the toilet or standing
over the toilet.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
It was so funny. Yeah, that catheter, that feedbag was
filled to the brim, leaders upon leaders of urine. Liquid gold.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Poor daddy, Oh, liquid gold them Dad.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I don't want to why, you know, and I don't
want to. It's hard for me to ever talk about
it without getting on my on a little bit of
a pedestal about health and black communities because dialysis and when,
and especially in Atlanta, because like, we were driving in
my dad's hospital. He was in a Piedmont Atlanta staff
was amazing. He's now had open heart surgery there, he
had his kidney He's been there a lot. Yeah, well

(07:37):
I was. We were driving there, my brother and I
from Atlanta Airport to the hospital. We passed so many
dialysis clinics. It is big business, the business of black
and brown bodies that have been allowed to, you know,
develop chronic conditions that lead to kidney disease. It's high
blood pressure, it's diabetes. Those are the two biggest contributors

(08:00):
of kidney disease. And then what do you get when
someone is diagnosed with end stage renal failure. You get
a cash fucking cow because every chair you can fill
in a dialysis clinic, who's paying for that insurance, you know,
and they have to go three times.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
A week, they see dollar signs. That's what they say.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
They see dollar signs. And my dad is so I
can't even tell you. He is like so not the
norm for a man his age, in his sixties, with
his health background, to be what a giddy kidney as
fast as he did. My sister, I would say, used
her privilege in the best way possible to give him
a kidney, to give a kidney for him to get
bumped up the list. But and I'm not even talking

(08:39):
about We passed one place that blew my mind. It
was like, you go, if you're bench of Atlanta, it's
like strip clubs, gentlemen's clubs, dark, empty, you know, you know,
in some parts, right, but in like in the in
some parts. And we're driving down this road, I forget
what the rod was called. And then the belt line,
not the belt line, the belt line is gentrification but true.

(09:00):
And then to my left, I'm like, what the hell
is it look like? I was like, is that a
spa kidney? SPA was the name of it. It was
giving five star Ritz Carlton. Yes, in the middle of
the Gatau. So all that is to say, I'm so
damn grateful at the same time that my dad is

(09:21):
getting a brand new kidney and a new delisan life.
His brother, his fourth out of six siblings to have
end stage renal failure, and my uncle David's blind. He
already He's been in the hospital NonStop because one of
the complications is gangreen That's how people start losing their limbs,
like my aunt Sherry Lee, God rest her soul. One
of the last things happened before she died was she

(09:42):
lost a leg. Uncle David's in the hospital and they
are like amputating more and more bits of his leg,
like he just you know, is in hell. So, you know,
my siblings and I it was such a fast trip,
but like at a certain point we were just kind
of trying to absorb and like touch base on just

(10:04):
like our joint shared mission to break a bunch of
generational not just trauma, but generational curses, as my aunt
Brenda would say, and the the chronic health conditions in
my family. It's it's horrible, and I really hope that
we can be a part of that change. So that

(10:27):
was a lot, but I'm really happy for my dad.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I feel like we're at that age too, like millennials,
maybe slightly older millennials who are transitioning from like enjoying
our parents and like older generations being these like older
mentor kind of figures and like just you know, turning
into grandparents or just like supporting us in different ways
as they're getting older, to now us being playing the
supportive role to them because now they're at age where

(10:51):
they're just older than older and to a point where
they need us. And it's I don't know about y'all,
but it's such a scary thing to experience firsthand. Like
I've watched my dad. He's now seventy six, he's going
to be this summer, and it's just so it just
it feels like it happened one day to the next.
It was like one day he was the funny, loud,
laughing jokester, and all of a sudden, now I see

(11:12):
him struggling to do basic things like get up off
the couch and you know, the stretches that he used
to do he can't do. And I'm like, oh, my gosh,
is it happening. Is it happening? Is happening? And I'm
watching it happen, and it's so so scary and bizarre
experience because he's always been in my mind like he's
always been like fifty years old, like at like a
static age where he doesn't change, And now it's just

(11:35):
I can't deny it anymore, you know, And it's just
like so heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Thank goodness you have so many siblings too. I'm really
grateful for my siblings.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yes, yes, big families and families that come through. Oh,
it's everything. It really does change change the game.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's so weird to be like to kind of become
like a parent to your parents and how to tell
them what they should be doing, and like, hey.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Now, can't be saying that I'm going to get it.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
It's the truth.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Though.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
My dad wants to be like, you gotta.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Let them think. You gotta let them think that they're
in charge.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Shoes don't literally tind my dad's shoes. I was sweating.
That's a heavy leg. I put on socks and shoes
for little humans every day, but they're about this thing.
I was like that, I don't want it. First of all,
I don't want to touch his feet like the way
I know I could not be a nurse. I'll put

(12:24):
them gloves on. No, they were crusty. He has not
been moisturized. Those are the things what is going on?
And nuwn as those feet shoes on and I'm like,
I was like, Dad, what are you gonna do? You need?
You need some slides. He's like, nah, I'm a sneaker.

(12:45):
Who's gonna put your shoes on?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Is a market? Is a market in the retirement homes
for pedicures apparently get something going.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Sorry, I brought it up. I can talk about amplications,
I could talk about the pee tracker and all that,
but don't let me.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh. You know what, guys, they don't believe in moisturizing
their feet. You know, you put you just lotion. What
people can see you go up to you where your
sock is gonna go. And from there.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know, guys without black girlfriends, Chris, you don't got
a black girlfriend, but you have a black sister friend
right here, and you better be you better be lotion
in them angles.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Just don't understand it because sometimes you know, you don't
put lotion on your feet, you can be slipping on
the ground.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
So I'm like house then when you sleep, when you
when you sleep, you cutting up your sheet. You don't,
you don't feel that.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Look everything everything the sun's gonna see. It's gonna get
some loasure. I'm not gonna walk around ashy. But the
feet sometimes they get skipped. Sometimes they get skipped. I'm
not gonna lie. Nobody's looking at them.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Put some loation, Put some lotion real quick before you
put the socks on. That that's the best tip I
can give you because the lotion and the moisture and
the warmth of the sock, it will do something for
the skin.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Just the.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Vazoline on your feet at night, put the socks on top.
You don't want to sleep with soocks. Let them cook
for like thirty minutes, take them off. You know.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Oh, I got an aqua for a story because I
didn't know what that was because I never I seen it,
but I didn't know what it was. I never used it,
but I seen it in the house and stuff like that.
And I remember I was with Mandy for the live
show the live podcast you and Tiffery were doing in
New Jersey, and I remember we were riding in a
car and I was like, I'm kind of ashy. Did
somebody some lotion? And I think it was you. You're like,
I got some aquardfer. I was like okay, and I

(14:24):
put way too much on my hands. I'm like, oh,
it's a lotion. I was so greasy. My hands were
so greasy. For the rest of that day, I was
trying to wipe it off on stuff. I was like,
why do you give us a vassoline? What is this?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I know, Yeah, it's a consistency of bassline bro come on.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Basically, I don't know. It's it's my it's my vix
vapor rep. I will put it on everything, bug bites.
Aquafor sunburned, aquafor.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
It is life changing. When I was in Japan for
my birthday last year, I was riding a bike across
the Siddle Bridge and I looked over the bridge real
quick and while I turned my head, I lost that
when the bike fell off. The bike so embarrassing, y'all,
so embarrassing, fell off the like scraped my elbow and
my arm with I'm talking about like a gash, y'all,
not like a little scratch. And I put Aqua four
on that every single day, and when I tell you

(15:11):
eight days later, it looked like I never had a
cut in the first place. Aqua four will literally heal
any open wounds. I mean, Aqua four is seriously changing, y'all.
If you're not on it, get on that.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Use Coke Brown Ambition to get a free tub of
off for you know they don't sponsor.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Us yet, get your co grup, get your.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I want some real sponsors, like I don't want, you know,
I mean no, I want the sponsors. I already have.
Let me not block my blessings. But I love vexed
vapor rub. I want some black and he black black
sponsors are fixed vapor rub. I want orange drink. I
don't know what that brand is called Crush whatever it is,
crush sh No, I don't want kidney spots. I'm like,

(15:51):
that's the center.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
You have Dominigan kids. So if you do get vixed,
you have to save.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
You have to. I don't even have any in my house,
told Elliott, I don't know. I have, like honest, I
literally have to.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I will send you with me.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
But there's a brand called Freda for kids stuff, and
they have like a bougie eucalyptus oil and vix vapor
rub knockoff. Someone gave me that.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Okay, that might be good for the kids because will
be like extra extra.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
That brings me back to our very first round table
with y'all, because that was my story, all right. We
got to get into these headlines, y'all. Yes, America dumb
bombed Iran. I wanted to unless you'll have something to
say about conflicts in the Middle East, I just wanted
to like start thinking about personal finance implications. The one

(16:45):
that I've heard so far, Well, let me give pause
for any commentary on the state of our politics and
peacekeeping operations.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Girl, I have two brothers in the military, ones in
the Air Force and the other one is in the army,
So I was I was certainly scared. I mean, like,
I'm just praying that, you know, one or both of
them don't get deployed. But scary times, man, especially just
looking at how much of the commentary in the past

(17:14):
has been actively trying to avoid this and then like
full on doing it with little to no notice is wild.
It's wild, and it's definitely scary. I mean, even my
brothers who are both active military right now, like just
I haven't had a chance to talk to them in depth,
but we're all in a family chat and when they can,
you know, pop in and like comments or likes of
what they're doing. One of them is in Lachlan Air

(17:36):
Force Base in Texas near San Antonio, a little bit
south of San Antonio. And then the other one is
currently in Tennessee, but he's just stationed there. He just
got back from Romania because they were doing some some
like intervention on like Ukraine situations. They were like on
the outskirts Romania, like just setting up some camps and
just trying to keep eye and keep watching soil. He

(17:57):
got back from Romania literally just a couple months ago,
so it's a little heartbreaking to see like he just
got back. He's finally back home and just so excited
to be able to see some of his friends and
maybe get some time off and for family. And then
immediately like his Fourth of July request was denied. He
can't see us for fourth of July. Like there's so
many things where it's like immediately nope, going right back,

(18:17):
And it is heartbreaking because the kid's been he's been
he's been working really really hard. Like this poor kid
has been rocking. Sometimes he'll send us notes to just
be like hey guys, like I have to do eight
mile rock this morning with like twice my weight on
my back, Like that's my morning, Like that's what I'm
doing today. And I'm like, damn, Like this kid is
putting in work, physical work, and to then turn around

(18:37):
and be told, Nope, you can't even get three days
off to go see your family. So kind of sucks.
That's the last time you saw him probably Christmas last year. Yeah,
so over six months ago now, But.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
That's the really heartbreaking thing. And well it's all it's
all scary for so many reasons. But what I've heard
is that you know, and there's of course TikTok and
beams like everyone's like, hey, I don't want to let
Ron know it wasn't me. I'm on your side whatever,
which is problematic in its own right because Iran is
doing up to some shadiness right right. But the people

(19:10):
who are really at risk are in my what I've
heard is military personnel stationed in the Middle East because
Iran can reach them with their weapons, with their.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Missiles pretty directly. Ye yep.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
So I just pray keep them in my thoughts in prayers,
and God damn commander in chief didn't know you could
have weapons. Fomo just couldn't couldn't let be b, couldn't
let Benjamin utt and ya who have all the fun
So it said, you know what put me in Let's go,
I'll bring my toys to the play to the play date,
you bring your toys. Let's let's blow some shit up.

(19:45):
It's how it felt.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's like a pissing contest. I'm like, are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me right now, that's not that's not
let's not do that.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Let's not especially when it's treated as if like these
are like not human lives involved in this too. I
think sometimes it gets it's so easy.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
For oh, they don't give a shit about hum.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yes, aren't people on the ground and all where it's like,
you know, like people can't. I just can't. I think
that's what hits me so hard is like I can't
imagine like that being your life. You're just there trying
to raise your family, live your life, and then all
of a sudden, this is what happens to where you live.
You throw it into chaos, Like what does even look
like anymore? What does life even look like after that?
So it's it's really painful to see people going through that.

(20:21):
And also like, yeah, he was saying, like are people
who here who are in the military, who now you know,
didn't ask me a part of this and now they're
part of it.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well it seems trivial, but I did want to do
some research into what potential personal finance implications there may be.
I think we're already starting to see one of the
most noticeable everyone's talking about eggs, but it's also gas prices,
and Americans are very tied too, so those are likely
to spike. I think they have already. I think gas

(20:47):
or sorry oil, which oil prices are tied to gasoline
prices at the pump, has already shot up to over
one hundred dollars a barrel and likely to keep spiking.
So we may see gas increase, and y'all know, then
people go at the gas station, they start, you know,
hoarding gas, and then we get inflation, which brings me

(21:08):
to the next thing, which is inflation in general. So
the tie, my understanding is the tie with inflation is
that oil prices are a big driver of that. So
one study by Oxford Economics estimates that when oil reaches
one hundred and thirty dollars per barrel, that could push

(21:29):
inflation in the US to six percent by the end
of the year. Wow, ain't we just get this under control? Right?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
It just got back to a regular rate, which would
has been the goal for so long. We were at
nine percent, eight percent, seven. Now we're finally down three
to four, and now we're going back up to six.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Potentially that would be so scary if it does go
back up like that because people are just now finally
adjusting to things feeling normal again, I think after being
with such high inflation, and of course a lot of
that was due to COVID and things like that, but
it just feels like.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
We finally somewhat started to bounce back, and it just
feels like you can't catch a break.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Chris my ninja googler, because you seem how you somehow
know how to Google without making your whole computer shake,
which I can't do. Because it's like, did you look
up really quick what the oil is right now? Per barrel?
I'm seeing now, I'm seeing eighty dollars per I thought.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
It was eighty dollars the last time I read up
on it, which was like a day ago, two days ago.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, Chris, check right quick, which could be because so
far Iran hasn't blocked this crucial shipping container canal. It's
called the straight of or Mooves.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, So if they do end up blocking that, which
could be in retaliation, I don't think they have so far.
It's hard, right ba Fam, You're gonna hear this on Wednesday.
We're recording this Monday afternoon, So who knows what the
world could look like by then. But it's something that
we'll be looking at, is the oil prices and then
the tie into inflation. When energy goes up, it hits
all the things y'all get in Amazon shipments, we're getting

(23:00):
the cost of oh my god, cooling our houses. We're
in the middle of a heat wave here in New York,
so we could see prices the places.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yes, yes, yes, right. I was just in Texas a
couple of weeks ago, and who it was burning hot
in Houston. I was in Houston. Then I was in
Dallas and oh my goodness. I couldn't even step outside.
I was like, nope, I'm good to stay inside in
the ac So imagine if that's happening doing a heat wave, It's.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
That'd be rough. My cucumbers are struggling, y'all. I had
to put up some shade cover. I'm sorry. We have
what is this breaking? We have an update from Chris
Chris Browning in the field. Yes, Chris, give us your update.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Oh, we have an update at a crude oil prices.
We're looking at prices between seventy and seventy five dollars
per barrel, depending on what you're checking. All right, right now,
that's where it's at.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Is that typical.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Oh, I can get back to you with that soon.
I don't know off the top of my head at all.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Okay, Chris going back into that undercover Google, thank you,
thank you very much for your deep research. Chris Chris Browning,
San Francisco in his bedroom. Supply chain disruptions again, that
could be if they close that canal cyber attacks. This
is the one that freaks me out because I don't

(24:11):
know if it would impact Like has there been an
Iranian cyber attack that's impacted everyday Americans? I can't remember.
I just know that they have been attacking, like I
know they've been behind some key political figures getting hacked.
But there was some discussion about potentially hospitals being a

(24:33):
target for cyber attacks. Apparently they're like a huge target
and a weak one because I'm guessing because hospitals come
in all different shape sizes, and they have their own
systems and there's no like nationwide protection. It's up to
each hospital individually. But that's scurry.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
That makes sense too, because it's hard for medical institutions
to keep up in general, and let alone with technology
that's hard to keep up with period.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Chris Chris Browning, any word on.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
What I'm saying is that it's actually been pretty low.
It's been rising over the past several years, but you know,
it's like between seventy and eighty bucks the past two years.
It looks like it peaked around ninety bucks in twenty
twenty two, and then it was like sixty eight and
twenty twenty one, thirty nine and twenty twenty just because
obviously the pandemic. So it's getting towards a higher end

(25:25):
of what we see in the past ten.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Years that would track with inflation. So okay, all right,
we'll keep eyes on that. Thanks so much, Christopher Browning.
That was again, Christopher brown ng hard Ing.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Let's not forget that that last part there.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Very important, very important women ally.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Ally and a nonviolent peacekeeper.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Thank you, thank you. I am curious though, like because
it's been like the attitude towards like electric vehicles have
kind of been shifting a little bit here in the US.
I feel like people were starting to be like, well,
I mean one company in particular when I have to
mention them, but there's a lot of other companies who
make electric cars that we'll talk about. But I wonder
we'll gas because there one A gas is like a
driver for people wanting to go to hybrids and then

(26:08):
electric cars eventually. So I wonder, is it going to
be like, hey all, you are hating on like green
like initiatives, but electric cars, more solar, more alternative fuel sources.
It may be a driver, even though an environment where
that's not being supported and with regulations, if the people
want it, it might be a driver to push us
in that direction more.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Right, if the demand is there.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I'm really getting into my prepper bag right now, y'all.
And I just feel like, I mean, I don't blame you.
I want solar panels so bad. My tiny little root
can't handle them. There's not enough square footage apparently, but
once they get more efficient, I will be getting solar panels.
I just want to be I want to be more
sustainable myself. And I mean, yes for the environment sustainable,

(26:51):
but also like.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
For life, self sustaining.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Self sustaining, like I have a literal farmstead outside my
house now that I'm going with my and I blame
Mickey Kendall, who was on the podcast this week. I
interviewed her a month or two ago. She's the author.
Have you heard of that book Hood Feminism?

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Oh yeah, yeah right.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Can we talk to you all about Mickey yet? So
I had her on the podcast and I almost forgot
how she Oh it just came out. Yeah, it just
came out this week or sorry, on Friday. It was
supposed to come out Monday, but I pushed it out
earlier because once we hit it on, I was like,
I got to get Mickey out here because she is
an historian. I mean, she has like a PhD in history,
and she's a brilliant woman. But she really laid it

(27:34):
out in academic terms and just you know, but also
straight talking terms, how history is repeating itself and how
the only solution she's come up with so far as
community and prepping and getting ready for potential civil war
potential you know, lack of resources and next thing, you know,
I'm growing tomatoes and cucumbers and obsessed.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
She got through to you, She got through to you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, let me know. I'll be cannon tomatoes shipping them across.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
The country Mandy's tomatoes Dand I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh thanks, Well, should we leave Iran behind? I feel like, I.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Mean, I think I think it's tough for me at least,
it's really tough. I haven't I've kind of refrained from
posting content about like oh, how they're on, how this
is iron Ta's going to affect your finances. It's like
I know that that that that that's kind of stuff
that people use to get clicks. But as a content creator,
I cannot get myself to do it. I have two
brothers actively serving right now. I can't sit here and

(28:39):
go your your bank account and your investment portfolio. Here's
an opportunity here, let's just what we can learn from it.
I just i'd rather me personally, I just rather I
just rather stay quiet. I just rat to stay quiet.
I've talked about other things, but it's just it's just
so hard when people take this and make it like
the butt of the content type of thing, and it
feels so heavy and it feels so much much bigger.

(29:01):
So I'm just I'm very careful about the content I'm
creating right now, but also just what I'm seeing too,
just like making note of it, like oh okay, okay,
because we don't want to I don't know, we just
don't want to perpetuate that, like war is an opportunity
for your portfolio like that that is so that is
so cringe eck, and just want to vomit. I want
to see stuff like that. So I just am trying

(29:22):
to be aware of it. But I love I love
that you said, like, hey, let's just address some potential
impacts of it on your personal finances and not focus
on like what opportunities you can get like that is wild.
That framing to me is just so disgusting.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
No, it really is, and it's it's I think it's
interesting like us as people talk about like money all
the time and finances in a time where there's so
much other things outside of that that are happening in
the world that it becomes really difficult to like find
want to find purpose in talking about it and not
be like there's so much like this is the world's
going crazy and it's like everyone's lines are on hold,

(29:54):
and it's like it's so hard to hear that and
then be like, hey, let's talk about top saving stuffs.
I'm like, just it feels so it feels very hard.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yes, that's why I've been doing nothing but gardening. I'll
go to my ig and I'm like, h what should
I post. Oh, I have nothing but gardening content, and
it's fine. Anybody got to hear from us.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Sometimes exactly, sometimes it's better to be quiet and just
participate in reading the little book. Check on people offer
the resources to support help, but not necessarily just add
noise to the mix, right, Like I did get somebody
called me out. I posted a video about how important
financial literacy was and how teens can start early with
investment accounts and stuff, and somebody commented, this is valuable information,

(30:37):
but it feels so tone deaf right now, when our
COMMUNI is really being attacked and struggled this way. And
I said, listen, I one hundred percent hear you. When
I was talking on this exact live that I got
this minute bite from, I talked about how students need
to learn about taxes early, and high school courses allowed
you to learn that, including the fact that undocumented immigrants
paid over ninety billion dollars of taxes. So I'm not

(31:01):
ignoring it. It's just really hard. But I totally understand
her position. Like I saw the comment and I was like,
I'm not even going to be I'm not even going
to be aggressive or ever Stereo here I just was like, yes, this,
I hear you. I'm with you on this. I spoke.
I use my platform when I can't to speak on it.
I completely get it. But I'm also not going to
stop fighting the good fight that I've been fighting, that

(31:23):
my calling is to fight for, which is for access
to financial education for all of us in this country.
So companies wants, I mean hello, because I didn't send
for you people, But.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I understand the algorithm. It's like people don't do their
You can see a post from someone that's like from
a week before, and it's out of context and it
makes are you posting about this? But people don't just
like click on a profile to then see, oh, let
me see what else that person has said. They just
want to fire off a quick comment. Yep, you know yourself.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Internet thugs, internet warriors coming from me on your low
comments section.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I've got someone thinking of ice. There's some really happy news.
This first sentence in this article gave me chills as
I was just reading it, even though I already knew
the news. But my Mood Khalil, this is the sentence
ma Mood Khalil emerged from the airport gate fist raised
and smiling to a cheering crowd as he pushed his
newborn baby stroller with his arm around his wife. My

(32:19):
mood is free, y'all. He got out. I'm mad they
put him through Newark International Airport because y'all know Newark.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
They could have they could have done they could have
done the guardios, they could have done the guardious right there.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Right, even if they take the JFK. But he's out,
So that's some happiness. He should not have been there
in the first place. But to part him with his
newborn baby. I had forgotten that his wife was pregnant,
extremely pregnant when this man was kidnapped.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yesh, So imagine having to experience that. Oh my goodness,
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
The injustice and the fact that some lawmakers are using
this on their social media profiles to say, now that
he's back, we can sentence him, now, we can get
him in the court, now we can figure out what
he did wrong. Is like, wait a minute, Now we
can celebrate that he's free. What are you talking about?
It is wild how people sway things and twisting. Oh

(33:09):
my goodness, I can't.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, let's focus on the positive. He was with that
cute baby on.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Lli, I know, cute baby and his wifey and AOC
was there to greet him and welcome him.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
No, AOC. It was a little bit awkward. I think
when he rushed it, he think he was going to
hug some loved ones, and he kind of pushed her
out of the way.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
She should have.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Been like, oh, please, yeah, war here, carry your bag
for you. People were saying like, oh, she shouldn't have
been there, it was a photo op or whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I think it's fine if she was there. I just
don't think she should have been like the first person
he hoped he got off the butt. I mean, you
know it is no no, but one of the you know,
one of the first few people. It's like, I think
I would have waited, and once all that stuff was gone,
I'd be like, hey, I just want you to know
I'm here and I wanted to see you and support
you and welcome you back. But I wouldn't make it
about me, per se. I don't think she did. But
if people are complaining to say, oh, she shouldn't have

(34:02):
been up there in the forefront, like she still should not,
it's not fair to say she shouldn't be there exactly.
You know, I don't think that's fair to say, like
not being their period is crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
It's crazy because is the time when you need to
see that there are government people in the government who
are supporting the right side, right, and they're not the
right side, but the correct side, you know of like hey,
like there are people fighting to make sure this doesn't
continue to happen to people.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, yeah, and making sure her face is connected.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
And she has been so outspoken trying to get.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Him out, Yeah, trying to end this dehumanizing rhetoric. At
the end of the day, Like, I think that's what
she has been all about. So for her to be there,
I think was totally fine as long as there was
no intention to make it all about her, which I didn't.
I didn't get that sense at all.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, well, people are rallying and support of him, and again,
like the conflict in Gaza, not the conflict is too
small of a word. The genocide, the brutality that's happening
in Gaza is still happening. So people like him who
are speaking out, I think time for American citizens, as
scary as it can be, it's almost like we have
a privilege being a citizen because they are actively trying

(35:07):
to target non US citizens or people who were here
at immigration visas, target those who have spoken down against
what's happening in the middle of what's happening in Palestine,
in Gaza, what's been happening for Are we going on
two years now? Jeez?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I mean, I mean, depending on how you define the conflict,
this is the question.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Well since October seventh. Oh, yes, you're so right, of course, yes, yeah,
that was my first One of my first impressions of
New York was coming here biking past the UN in
twenty ten and seeing the protesters outside the UN with
the Palestinian flags and being like, well, what's that about,
and just not really understanding. But yeah, it continues to

(35:53):
rage on. And yes, two years since October seventh, and
many decades that they have been and brutalized in this way,
and it's yeah, it's really heavy. But I think what
I was just trying to say is like, as US citizens,
I hope we would have some measure of protection, even
more so than those who who may feel afraid for

(36:16):
their families, lives, their lives, their ability to continue working,
studying living here. So if you can, you know, and
I think in this small way talking about it helps
platform their message totally at a time when they're being
targeted yep.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
And not being afraid to speak out even though they're
trying to scare us straight scare scare us silent really
is what they're trying to do. I mean, if you
look at the potential the prospective mayoral candidate Lander in Brooklyn,
New York, who was like silenced and violently like put
up against the wall by like by the ice officers

(36:53):
because because he was trying to speak up.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
This was a was he running from there?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, Brandon Lander, He's running from there in New York City.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
It's too many of them. I can't keep.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Tracks, y'all.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
It's like my knee want to text me.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
My niece texted me literally, she was like THEA, I
think I might need your help. Is this like a
multiple choice test? Is just like how do I do
this for him? I said, baby, you got to rank
themb Honey, that you means you got to put you
got to bubble all of them in the spot. And
don't bubble two numbers for one person, and don't bubble
one person for the same number, two people for the
same number. It's literally like the most confusing process. I
feel sorry for my New York because like there are

(37:29):
people literally who don't understand and they want to do. Yeah,
they wanted to do the research. They wanted to understand,
but it's such a complex system and process, and there's
so many players, there's so many characters to just even
get familiar with. And oh my goodness, but I am
very proud of.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Such a terrible track record with choosing mayors. I'm saying
we I don't live in New York City anymore, but.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
All of us were all responsible, you know, we are responsible.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
We're like, we're like because Paddy, who doesn't know she's
a baddie and it's like with a trash We're like
Hallie Bailey and these mayors are like, who's her boy?
Her ex ddp ddposdd, whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
His name was.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
It was like, was it his twitch name that I'm
thinking of? Whatever? The manchild?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Right, accurate description work.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
But the twenty fourth is tomorrow, that's when they'll be
That's the primary, right.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yes, And I think New York is very is very
much so desperately trying to feel relatable to the people
who are in charge. We desperately want to get rid
of these people who come up there and are condescending
and are talking down at us and are doing politics
as usual with their corruption behind the scenes. And so

(38:39):
instead we want to pick people who look like us,
sound like us, talk like us, act like us. But
we focus so much, we over index on the relatability
that we don't focus on what are the actual credentials,
what's actually happening, what is this person actually about. And
I'm not, you know, here to to talk crap about anybody,
but the mayor who used to be the Brooklyn or president.

(39:01):
I had some experience working with in the capacity of
Brooklyn Borough President, and I had seen firsthand working with
the Brooklyn Borough President's office how a lot of it
was all talk and a lot of it was yah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. And then when you follow through, when you
follow up, there was there was no follow through. It
was like all talk. Oh, we definitely could make a
press release out of that, we can make it a
pres event, we could take pictures, but no meaning, no

(39:23):
actual impact, no real true commitment to goals and to
a long term project plan. And so I early on
was like, Hugh, I don't know about this, and I'm
from Brooklyn. So of course everyone that I knew was like,
what you made out Brooklyn Borough president. He got to
be mayor, and then all of a sudden, all this
stuff starts coming out once once this person is mayor,

(39:45):
and people are like, get him out, he's trashed. I'm like,
you were the ones who were blindly supporting because how relatable.
And so we got to stop over indexing for the
things that New Yorkers love, which is the real talk,
straight talk, talk to me, shay, you know, no bs.
But this is why so many people actually who voted
for Trump also voted for AOC. Weird right, you would think, wait,

(40:07):
what how you're gonna because people over index for straight talk,
real talk, no hearing your tongue. You say it like
it is. You're not about the BS. You have to
you know, anti establishment. You just say what you And
that is truly what I think the mistake is in
New York City is we so hard over index for that.
We got to cut that out, y'all. We I mean,
I say, we I live in Miami now, but I'm

(40:27):
in New Yorker today. I died. We need to stop.
We need to cut that out.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
We love an extrovert, Like, we need to really value
the quiet. I mean, we almost elected that Uma Aberdeen's trash, Like,
wasn't he about to her? Ex pervert? And now I'm like,
but the fact that Andrew Cuomo thinks he has has
a real shot. Bill Clinton is on the stump for him,
Oh my god, throw them both away.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Til I was so shocked when I saw that Clinton.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Excuse me, you're trying to.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
You Bill for people respect you Bill respected you Bill?
What is going on?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
He's like really old? Now he's like whatever, I'll show up.
How do I pivot from that to Megan and the
Stallion on Love Island? I don't know if I'll even go.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
You know what, I have a little bit of a
pivot because while you were talking about why New Yorkers
are always conned by people that we vote for, I
was about to bring up Ace. I felt like a
a yes, because I feel like Ace is the perfect
example for an analogy here, because when you start watching
the show, you just love Ace. You just love Ace
because you know he's so real, he's so rough, so

(41:31):
Jenue down to Then all of a.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Sudden, a couple of episodes in and you're like, we
hate him for Shelley.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Ace, What the hell are you doing? All these old
heroier motives?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Ace?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
What the f And this is truly a great connection
to what we just talked about New York with politics,
because this is how people operate. They come out the woodwork,
they're all positive upfront. Then over time you start to
see the ulterior motives that they had all along. Hello, Ace,
what's up?

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Like?

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Why is he so messy? Why is what is the vindictiveness?

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Child?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
What is with this Ace behavior?

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Like?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I was so upset, Like I just saw the episode
where he convinced all the boys to vote Jeremiah off.
Sorry if that's a spoiler for anybody listening, but you
know how.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
You going, how you I don't watch the votings. They
annoy me. I will fast forward and just get to
the good stuff. So I think I missed all of that,
But was it, teacher to go back and watch it?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
You should? And honestly, what I do is I.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Just nater Jeremiah too. He was such a dick.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Okay, So literally America voted and they basically put the
three girls and the three boys who had the least
votes from America up on the front of the fire
pit whatever. And so then there were six people, three girls,
three guys, and the rest of the cast members who
were safe had to vote off one girl, one guy.
Girls had to vote off one girl, and the guys
had to vote off one guy. So literally, earlier in

(42:48):
the episode, you see Ace moving to Nick and to Austin,
and so all his boys like, oh, you guys, you
see how Jeremiah was all love bombinghood and now he's
doing the same thing.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Now he's doing this.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
You see da da da, And he was like working
his little influence on them. And so when the vote happened,
I'm sorry, but I think I can speak for everyone
who watches the show, and I say, we all thought
Austin was going his ass home. Austin has no business
in the house. Don't nobody like him, don't nobody like him,
don't know about it.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Before the despicable display during the work challenge with Megan
thee Stallion, I hate him more after the way he
is treating Homegirl Dominican homegirl. What's her name?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Andrena, Well, there's two Amaya with a little bit of
a little bit of Andrea was raised in Spain, but
she's from the win Public. Okay, she was Spain, lives
in Jersey. Yeah, she's She's from a lot of places.
She said, I live in New Jersey, but I'm Dominican,
but my family from but I was raised in Spain,
so all the oldest places. But but yeah, I think

(43:49):
I know.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Austin gives me such the eck. You know his family
and he's from Michigan. I just can't take it.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I mean, look, if there was even one person who
was interested in Austin, actually I would have been fine.
But Amaya, she's just trying to pretend she's interested in
Austin because she needs to be safe. She needs a
way to stay on this damn I villa. She doesn't
have one. She doesn't have one prospect, so if she
doesn't make a prospect, she's out the villa. So she
had to pretend she likes Austin. Austin doesn't like her.
Austin doesn't like anyone, So send his ass home. Oh no, no,

(44:20):
they send Jeremiah home, even though he genuinely was into
Hoodah tried with Iris but then she was like, nah boo,
I feel like we're platonic. And then now he's into
Andrena They just jealous that he's with Andrena, so they
kicked his ass out, and I'm just like, how are
you gonna tell me that it's because he didn't actually
tried with women when he tried with three women. And
not only that, but Tay. I love Taylor, but like,

(44:42):
what woman besides the laundria the Taylor tried to get
with Amen exploring who is he? Exploring way why does
he get to stay? Why he's safe in the village?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Can we just do like a live watch Sash, like,
who are you watching leve Islin.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
With my boyfriend?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Is he into it?

Speaker 3 (44:57):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
But I forced I twisted his arm.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
See, I only want to be watching it with people
like you, and I don't have any people like you
in my immediate vicinity. And I mean, I know, watch
Love Island with us?

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Chris, come on, come on, I gotta tell you.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Come on.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I know what you two are talking about, because because
I went down to La to visit my family. Was
a baby shower going on from a brother and then
it was Father's Day and my mom was I walk
in and she's watching Love Island. I didn't know what
this was. I was like, you're watching was it? When
I think it was Love is Blind. I was like,
love is Blind or something. I was one of the
love shows. No, it's Love Island. And I'm like, what

(45:33):
are you watch it? And so she was like, you
want to watch it with me? I was like, not really,
but I was. I was like, I don't want to
be mean, so you know what here it.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Was a bunch of girls with a bikini, So you said.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I mean, it can't be all bad. So I sat
down and I watched it. It was like it was
a pretty ten episode. I was like, okay, whatever, you know.
She was. She was happy. I decided to spend time there.
But then the next day another episode came on. I'm like,
this is on again. She's like, I'm like, I thought
this was like a what's a week? Show? Houses on
every day every day? I said.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
The track, film.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Crew, that film crew, and those editors they were.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
They were working those people their death in the editing.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Room, overnight, post edit, overnight posts.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yes is wild. And so I sit down and this
is one where there's like some lumberjack challenge and I'm
like they start they started grinding. I was like, hold up,
I'm not watching this with you. I gotta leave.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I was like, that's a awkward.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
I'm not watching.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I cannot be in this room.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Soft point, I said, soft point, let's call it.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
It's bad.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I said, you nasty for watching this. I'm out.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I couldn't be on. That's why I could have be
on Like TV TV, it has to be on. Peacock
has to be on the streamer right.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Let your fama reminisce she was a bad.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
I don't want to we're not even talking about that.
I'm not there. I don't want to think about that.
We don't need to.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
We watched The Megan thee Stallion and one y'all love this.
The day my dad got out of the hospital. I
turned that on. I was like, we're gonna get Magian food.
We're going to watch The Megan thee Stallion. It was
so good. Meg.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
First of all, I don't love her personality.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
She's faddy, unreal, doesn't make sense, and she's talented, but that's,
you know, the first and foremost.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
I didn't know she was. I may myself have to
go cue that episode just to understand what you were
talking about and then go back and see what was going.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
On with anthropological research.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Just for research purposes for sure, for just research. But
Megan was is so natural and so genuine. You know,
there's so many people that come on and it's forced
and it's fake. Meg is actually a fan of the show.
She knew the details intimately, and yeah, she was there
to promote. She was there to promote a little bit
bathing suit line. But so what she did it in
a very natural, genuine way, mad respect. I love that episode.

(47:39):
I one hundred percent enjoyed it. And she added a
lot of fun and flared to that episode.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
So I love the marketing tie in. I thought, well,
this is lovely. Is she a fan? But she has
a swimsuit line coming out? Will I ever wear it?
Maybe the one with like the mad underboob, like the
one the one that the kind of witchy one was wearing.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
She she is witchy. She is witchy, like she's brewied.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
She pour in a big old yeah, like I feel
like she's got crystals under her boots at all times,
and probably some tarot cards. I bet she does everyone's
readings and like kind of white girl dreads. Sometimes I
got scared one time, but they're not actually dread it's
just a little braids. She was doing. But she does braids.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
She does braids. I will tell you though, she is
the one that I am most impressed with in terms
of her maturity level for the age of twenty five.
I mean the way that she carries.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Herself away pretty old island. No, is she twenty five.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
I just assume she's twenty five. But I feel like
for their age, being in your twenties, I don't. I
just feel like they're all so immature. I mean, Hudda
is the queen of saying I'm so mature. I'm a
girl's girl, and she's immature and not a girl's girl,
so it's crazy. But then you have Sierra, who genuinely
is a girl's girl. She's very mature. She's like, tries
very hard to be logical and not emotional, although recently
she's been very emotional because she sees that Nick is

(48:54):
interested in Andrena, so she's getting a little jealous.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
But I just mean, I'm not mad at her, but that.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
It's a lot. I think that she she started to
deal with like a little bit of yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure. But anyway, I think she's very mature, Like
when I hear how she approaches some of the conversations
and how she addresses conflict. I always like, okay, girl,
wives beyond your years, and Ace was giving me that
a little bit at the beginning, but now I can't
stay an Ace.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
He is like, first of all, Shelley reminds me so
much of Halle Bailey, just in her little like her
Disney Princess looks like I just like put her in
Universal Studio. She can play Aeriel all day every day.
She is just adorable. But then Ace is giving that
like that not good enough for her, Like has some
funny jokes and some quirks, and it makes me sick

(49:39):
to see them get like getting closer together. Now I've
missed huge chunks of the show because my love isoland.
Routine is usually to watch the recap and then skip
through the middle until I get to the end and
watch the last like ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Because nothing is happening.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Just skip ahead, nothing happening. So there's a lot of
long pot it was good.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I'll go back and watch it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
There's a lot of long pauses, and it's a reality show,
so like oftentimes it'll be like and so the girl
that I choose is thirty seconds later. Yes, right, so
just fast forward. I just fast forward, fast forward, fastward
until I see them talking, and then I'll go back
ten seconds and watch. So I just skip all the
pauses and bread so I'm like, I got time for this.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
This is so stupid.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
This is such a waste.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Hey, ba fam, We're gonna take a quick break, pay
some bills, and we'll be right back. All right, ba Fam,
We're back. By the way, Nelly, I'm gonna be in Miami, Miami,
which you're never there. I feel like, even though you.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Les that's what I was about to say, I said,
what dates girl? You know, because I'm always I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Be there for three days by myself because I'm speaking
at Color Calm. It's just.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Be very excited. I'm get to do a panel on
podcasting and I get to do it with one of
my I forget who the third panelist is. One of
them is Ayusha Roscoe from NPR. I am such a fan.
I love her so much. I'm gonna have to not
be weird.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Because I know a little weird. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
That's so much like to hear her voice on NPR.
I will get it. I was not an NPR kid
growing up. My parents didn't play that in the car.
I didn't even be either.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I mean I'm an NPR adult. I mean I was
an NPR college kid. But growing up in.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
College, people made me feel dumb, like dumb for not
knowing what NPR was, like not knowing this shit. I
could tell you what NPR was, but I didn't know
there was a local station, and like there is is
like all things considered and like you know, this American
life and all that that was not my I was
third ninety four.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Up is July twenty fifth in Miami. I'm home that weekend.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
You didn't even wait for me to tell you.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
You was talking and I was looking it up. I
was looking it up.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yes, I'll be there.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
You're gonna be here, Okay, Yes, I'll be home. So
you got to come hang with me.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yes, come by the pool. We'll got on Megan thee stallion. Yeah,
a real summer swimwear.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yes, honey, wear it.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I'll just put it on top of my one.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeh. We'll get the fine blue beach chairs that come.
You know, when you stay at the hotel, you get
the nice little beach access the ip.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Okay, I'm excited. I was gonna bring the children, but
I was like, nah, don't do a.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Girl, don't do it.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
It was a great decision right there, summer.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
No, no South Beach. It's not for the kids.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
It's not the it's hot, it's you know, adults and hot.
H A WTT and Chris. I mean, you're here, so
I guess I should. Also, you want to come to
my Miami.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
You would invite me to be your videographer.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Social media.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
You're always looking for at excuse to get out, honey,
come travel.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
The whole trip is a business, right off. If you
come to support with the podcast, with the social media promo,
this is true.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
And maybe said she's paying for my flight too, so yeah,
I'll be there.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I need some girl time. You can stay there. I'm
definitely not paying for that. It's gorobably be an expensive flight.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
But I was to say, now you San Francisco to Miami.
They don't really have a corner because I do that
flight quite a lot. They don't have any during the day,
so you would have to fly red eye or leave
super early in the morning, like at five six am.
It's very annoying. It's very annoy because sometimes I'm done
with work at like three or four pm Pacific time,
and I'll be like, oh, let me get the next
flight outs not till midnight, and I'm like, why the hell? Why,

(53:15):
what the hell is going to Miami?

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Mayday's gonna put me in business class. I have a
little pod to sleep in. You know, it'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Oh no, I told you my credit card. That should
tell you I should not be paying for for Beyonce tickets.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I don't care wait one of the dates for Beyonce
and Atlanta Mandy, because I'm going to go to the
one in Houston opening night Saturday this weekend coming.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
She's bringing out the goodies. Now. Now I'm hoping that
Paris in London. I saw her in London. I love
that show so much. I don't know. People say that
she loves London more than America. I don't remember. I
don't have men.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
You can't live in more than Houston, her own hometown, I.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Know, But like she was doing I guess, different songs.
And then in Paris though, Miley came out, Miley and
j Z and Jays.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, that was crazy. You saw the crowd in that.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Man. Kendrick I'm rooting for Kendrick to come out.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Where is he right now? It's going to be lining up,
the location is going to be lining up.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I don't know, it's move.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Let's see. We got to ask matched up their their
towards schedules.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
But the way I am ready to relive it and
London was cold and rainy and I had a good time.
It was it was what it was, But I just
was like, I really want to look to my left
into my right and see nothing but like beautiful black
girls from Atlanta. Like I just know the vibes are
going to be on one hundred and it's going to
everything I need. And I wouldn't be alone, you know

(54:42):
what I.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Mean, You won't absolutely not. It's never never, it's gonna
feel like that. I went to Usher in Atlanta and
it was incredible. But but in which my homegirls in Atlanta,
she works at the CDC, So every time I'm in Atlanta,
I'll go hang out with her. But this time, my
knees had begged me, begged me, beg me to do
it in Houston opening night, and she just finished paying
off her student loans. So I got me and her tickets.

(55:04):
I got her tickets as a gift for her celebrating
paying off her student loans, and so so I was like,
all right, she wants Houston. We're gonna do Houston Opening
Night Saturday, which is this weekend.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Coming I'm gonna before okay.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
It's before I land. It's this Saturday coming up.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I am so I hope that out fit.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I got my cowboy boots in the mail, and I
got my belt, which I got literally for like twelve
dollars using my points. And then bell, I have my belt,
a belt with the belt with the ut Austin.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
You're going to be okay with the Longhorns on it.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
And then I got nam like you already know, I
got the ten of denim tube top with the DNMG
and with the girl. It will be on my Instagram.
It will be on my Instagram. I'll repeat all day.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Happy for you.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I'm excited. If you want to get if you want
to do it three times, you want to come this
weekend to Houston, girl, No no, no, no, no, you know,
just more joy. You know, it's just more joy in
your life.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
That's all good for good.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I have a Google before you, Sorry to tell you.
Sorry perplexity that's why I've been googling that Kendrick is
going to be in uh in Europe all of July.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Oh dang, so it's not going.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Right, Well, it would be someone else, maybe Miley, which
I'm not a fa Shaboozy. I would love Shaboozie. Or
it might be Shaboozy, right, that would be lit. I
love Sweet Honey Bucking. Oh my god. I made my

(56:39):
dad listen to the whole Cowboy Carter album on the
way home from the hospital because he he told me
to turn my GPS off because he knew.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
The album is spicy. You guys, him listening to that
it is. She got some naughty live girls. She worked
it into a country album, but it's a lot of nasty.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I think it's a nasty We didn't get through the
whole we listened to like the first five tracks. I
might have skipped like a couple in the middle. I yeah,
I don't know. I don't think it's very spicy.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
But see, when you really listen between the lines, you're like.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I'm sure it is because she got.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Some mature themes. She got some mature themes and some
sensual undertones, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Do you have a Beyonce figure? Like, who's your Beyonce?
Who would you like?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Pay?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:31):
I like music, like I got nobody I care.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
About like that, Like you're not a concert guy or
you just don't know how many music artists that's your person.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Okay, I like all kinds of music, but I'm not
like you got anybody. I'm like, oh, I gotta go
see them. I'm not a concert person. Does that mean?
But I do love live music, so it's kind of weird.
It doesn't really make sense.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
I don't trust people are well.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
I think a concert is different from live music in
terms of like a live music experience usually for me
is much more intimate and smaller. Like live music, I
feel like I can actually see the instruments like that
within like versus a concert. For me, it kind of
takes away the live music feeling of it. It's more
of an experience rather than like a live music spectacle.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
It's art, yes, yes, theater.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
It's theater.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
It's especially acrobatics.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
It's acrobatics. It's that kind of thing. It's not more
circusolate than it is like a live music thing. Because
I do love live music in smaller settings. I love that,
but concerts, but I feel you.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
I'll take it all. But yeah, I saw her from
the floor in London, on the floor to the east,
so I saw one very specific viewpoint. I am just
excited to be dead center. Also, the screen stopped working
during this one dance routine where she had like, no
spoilers for you, Nelly, but anyway, and I want to
see it up close.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
So okay, I'm not mad at you go.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
So I'm gonna get my one fifty stub Hub credit
and let's take a quick break. We're going to come
back with Brown Boost bron break and then we go
and wrap but on up. So we'll do yeah, a
little quake, A little A little quake, look quake, quick break, quake.
We'll be right back via fam all right, v A fan,

(59:14):
we are back. We're gonna do our brown Boost Brown
Break at the Brown table. And I have vetted Chris's
boost or break this week, y'all, so I know it's
not gonna be trash.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Had did you tell them what you vetoed one that
I was very I'm gonna say it. Anyways, My up
from the birth of my of my nephew, Mandy was
like veto. Nobody cares about this child.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Even the birth went for a baby shower. Come on,
and he's not even born yet.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Wow, I'm gonna I'm gonna save this.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Think the birth of your baby nephews is important news, Chris,
very sweet news.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
It is very sweet.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
I'm gonna save this older. Yeah, it is like you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
You see how much you love Auntie Mandy? Right, let
me tell you what she did before you were born.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
She was she usual number one. Hate her from day zero?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
What you did come up with? But I did push
you to come up with a juicy or boost, and
you came up with one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
You did?

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
You? Did?

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
You do?

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
You want to go ahead and not get out?

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Go for sure makes diamonds, you know what I mean?
So if you just withstand the Mandy money pressure for
a little bit longer, you will becomes person.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Yeah let's go with that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Anyways, my boost for this week is uh I had
a friend who does these they call them like sprints.
You see them a lot out here with the tech
company tech founders where they kind of sit down for
this concentrated time to think through ideas that they have
with It's like a business idea, I change what you're doing,
and she even modified it for like, if you want
to make big life changes, it's a way of sitting down,

(01:00:52):
thinking through your life and the things that you value
and that makes sense to you and thinking about it
a very critical eye and coming up with something at
the end of the time. And so we spent a
whole day doing this. We started at like we started
at ten in the morning and we went to about
four and the Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Your friend coming up with it on their own.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
No, No, she does this for a living, so she
does a lot of facilitation of these for companies, for startups,
for founders and things like that. I met her through
Burna because Berna was there doing this with us. It
was me, Berna and b was there and a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Other friends whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
I know. It's it's it's like it's like it's like
it's like your credit card parks. This is the San
Francisco perk. I get to hang out with Berna and uh.
It was really interesting because like basically she gave us
like a little bit of homework before the event started,
before the day and she's like, Okay, I want you
to sit down and map out your life and any
important milestone so other it's like personal career wise, whatever

(01:01:47):
it may be, and plotted on a timeline, and she
said some link to this thing is called a mirror board.
And it's basically like almost like a if you can
imagine like a big workspace where you can build like
sheets and forms things like that, and you can like
type and work directly in it. And so she gave
us all these pre made things.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Like a kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
It sounds like no shot, not notion, because it's more
free flowing. It's like you have a big like what
do they call it, like a grid paper? She had
a grid paper, but it like you can move around
and add things to and you can zoom in, zoom out,
and if they use for presentations and for working through
ideas and mapping things out. And so you have this
timeline and you have like a little post notes you
can put on there and then type onto it, and

(01:02:26):
then you can like link things together. And so you
start off with like what was this big like what
are the things in your life? Were there or decisions
you made that you that kind of shaped where you
are now or could have forked off and gone somewhere else,
and you have to sit there and think through all
of this, and then you have to put down what
did you do? And then if you what if you
hadn't have chosen this, what would you have done? What
would have life done look like? Or what how did
you feel when you made those decisions? Before, during, and after.

(01:02:49):
You have to do that for your old timeline, and
it really makes you reflect on all the decisions you
made and like why, Like why did you make that decision?
And did you feel good about it? And the things
you didn't feel good about. It kind of gives you
insight into like, oh I didn't I actually didn't end
up liking this. Maybe I took something from it, But
it helps you as you plan now to be like, oh,
I don't want to do that again, or I really

(01:03:09):
like this thing. And it was such a cool thought
process because when we came together the next day we
started kind of working on that a little bit more.
And then from there what you do is you start
thinking about like why do you want to make a change,
and right, no, that's the reasons why. And then if
you didn't make this change, what would you feel like
how would your life be if you just didn't do anything,
and you kind of keep diving into things piece by piece,

(01:03:32):
and at the end of all this, to make a
long story short, you end up with these things you
take from each of these pages. So there's like a
little some of the sheets have like a little box
where it's like, Okay, what do you what was like
the biggest thing you took away from this thing? So
you go through and you vote. You have little dots,
little stickers, you can digital stickers you can place on
all the responses you gave through this whole long process,
and then you look through the ones you voted for.

(01:03:52):
It's like, oh, this was like this was meaningful to me,
and then you move that down to this bigger worksheet
and it builds almost kind of like a mad libs
Like for me, it was like I really enjoy like
video production, even though I'm thinking like I like, you know,
making podcasts and stuff like this, but I really enjoy
making things and being behind the scenes with a lot
of stuff. And it's like, what do what do you value?

(01:04:12):
And it was like, oh, I really enjoy working with
other people and it kind of gave me thoughts, like
insights into things that I didn't even think about. And
maybe like, oh, I need to prioritize working with other
people and not just working by myself all the time.
I need to work on or focus on maybe trying
out doing more behind the scenes production because that seems
to be something that is enjoyable to me and it
really gives you something to work with. And this is

(01:04:35):
just step one. It's like stage one and then we're
going to all get together another day and work on
what comes after this, which is where you start brainstorming
ideas from what you've learned about yourself. No, she's doing
it for free. She charges other people for this, but
because we're all friends, she's doing this for free for us,
very kindly giving up her time for this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
But I bet it was better coming from yourself. Ellah,
you love people, You already pay to go to coworking spaces,
and you're a you're a gizmo gadget dude. That sounds
really great. It's also like carving out the time to
reflect is just something that it never feels like there's

(01:05:15):
a lot of time for, but it is so nice
that you got to do it and that you've spent
time and that it was a group activity.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yep, and people don't put that on the to do list.
People don't put that on the to do list. Like
you're constantly like an energizer bunny, like you go go, go, go, go,
complete the next task, check the check that box, check
that box. Reflection doesn't feel like one of those things
that gives you a sense of like you know that
you were actually productive. And so I think that's why

(01:05:42):
it's you have to force yourself to be in spaces
and experiences like that to make room for reflection, because
I feel like that's so important, especially when you have
a business, because you're just holding the weeds, doing the
go to go every day. And yeah, I think that's
that sounds amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Yeah, it's like you just don't make time for this,
and it was and you have the pressure of being
around other people, so you got to do it. If
I was doing this by myself, I probably want to
stop fifteen times and gone and done something else, picked
up my phone. But you're like you're in an environment
where everyone's doing it, We're all focused, we all want
to hit the same endpoint when we're done with this.
And uh, yeah, I feel very fortunate to you know,
may friends with someone who would do this and facilitate
this and help us all kind of kind of figure

(01:06:19):
it out, you know at the you know, in your
thirties man, basically forty like me. You know, when you
get to this point in life, you know, sometimes you
need to it's good to reflect. You don't have to
be doing the same thing forever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Forty this week, Oh, who does my husband happy birthday?
Happy birthday, younger, mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Yeah, sure about for about five.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Minutes days younger.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Yeah, Chris, I feel like the one thing that you
said that really stuck with me about how cool that
experiences is that you can do it for anything. It's
not just like a work thing. It's like if you
have a personal issue that you're dealing with, a work issue,
a relationship issue, like if any aspect of your life
you can kind of workshop through in this way. And
maybe this person over here is working on their business,

(01:07:04):
you're working on something personal. Somebody over there is working
to a relationship issue. And it's so cool that that
framework allows you to work through pretty much anything that
you want to reflect on. So I like that a lot.
I feel like that's really smart for her in terms
of versatility for her business, for the model that she
can offer it in a lot of different settings.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Yeah, and that's exactly what it was like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
You could give her. I was going to say, did
she teach it online? Does she like do tips on
ig or something? Does she have a social media handle
you can shout out?

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Oh, I think I can. Let me look it up,
so I know she does this for a lot of
companies out here in the Bay Area. Her name is
Kristen shout out to her and her husband run a
restaurant called Swopshop. It's a Filipino restaurant out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Here, and she's got a restaurant.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Okay, and they got a restaurant. But I'll find I'll
find her handle it out, I'll share the people that
connect with her. But we were telling her like, yeah,
this is a great idea. You definitely should be doing
this more because she's also this is her way of
like molding it for individuals instead of companies to see
if there's like a way to do it that makes
sense and kind of works. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I would love to talk to her, Yeah, because I'm
doing this VIP coaching one on one now and I'm
so happy that I started doing it. It's just one
person for twelve weeks, well twelve sessions, and I don't
have And they've been asking like, is there a framework?
Is there such and such? But I mean, I create
it on the go for each person. But there's so

(01:08:21):
much introspection like baked in side by side thought work
where it's just like asking, leading questions and thought exercises
that that I don't have a particular framework. I just
know that it's very helpful. But it's cool that she's
come up with one, So I want to I want
to learn more.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Oh yeah, I'll get all there for information together and
I'll send it over to you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Now do we agree, ba fam that we got more
value out of that boost then the sole the only boost.
I mean, we love, we love a new black king
being born into the world, but didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Mm hmmmm, you know, go and spin to keep spinning it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
We learned a lot. Also, congratulations to your brother and sister.
And yeah, I want another baby. It's really sick. It's sickening,
yan Ellie. I want you to go last because I
know yours is going to be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Yeah, and I'm going to do a break, all right,
go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I'm going to do a break, Like I said, I
was in Atlanta recently and one of the stories that
I haven't really talked about, but it's been in the news,
especially because she's from Atlanta, is Adrianna Smith, which fam
If you've heard this name, maybe it sounds familiar to you.
This has been an ongoing story in the news for
months because this poor woman who's in her thirties was

(01:09:45):
declared brain dead. And a lot of people start the
story by talking about the fact that she which is true.
She has been declared brain dead but kept on kept
on life support because the reproductive laws were over or
if Rover Wade was overturned, and in Georgia, almost immediately

(01:10:08):
it triggered a new piece of legislation that reduced the
window for abortion to like six weeks. And I believe
she was nine weeks pregnant when she became brain dead.
But I was reading and what happened last week is
that the baby was delivered, and the baby was delivered prematurely.

(01:10:29):
It was like one point something pounds. We don't know
if he's going to survive. They gave him a name
of Chance, And there's so much wrong with that story
in so many ways, And I just as a mother
there's it's it's heartbreaking that she wasn't able to, you know,

(01:10:51):
fulfill that part of her life. She already had a
son as well, it's heartbreaking that he's left without a mom.
But the part of her story that really was getting
to me as I read more about her was that
what actually caused her to become brain dead declared brain dead,
is that she went to the hospital with severe headaches

(01:11:13):
and they pretty much brushed it off. Now, if you've
been pregnant and you've gone to the hospital as a
pregnant person, and there's actually jokes about this, like in
pop culture, in like on medical TV shows that I've seen,
where it's like, okay, incoming patient to the er, they're pregnant,
kick them up to labor and delivery. I myself had

(01:11:36):
cracked a rib from being really sick. I cracked a
rib from coughing when I was pregnant with my second baby.
And there's nothing you can do for a pregnant lady
with a cracked rib. I can't get an X ray,
there's no painkillers I can take. It's like, but they'll
like immediately kick you up to LL and D before
really looking at you. And I don't even think in
this case she was actually kicked to L and D.
She was just given really nothing. They were like, you're fine,

(01:12:00):
go home, take some til and all. Well, it turns
out she had several brain clots, blood clots in her brain,
and so she suffered a stroke and her poor husband
woke up to her in the throes of you know,
having one of these blood clots that ruptured, and that's
how she ended up on life support in the first place.

(01:12:22):
And we talk a lot about we talk a lot
about reproductive rights and how women of color are going
to become or largely will become the victims of the
lack of reproductive health care access in the weight in
the wake of Robi Wade being overturned. But I also
just think it underlines just in general, in healthcare, women

(01:12:46):
and women of color especially are not always taken seriously
and are you know, and that we are required. It
requires so much of us to like advocate and push
for the care that we deserve. And sometimes you're just
tired of fighting and sometimes you don't want to have
to do that for yourself. And it's not fair and
it's not right, but it's just so heartbreaking that she

(01:13:10):
tried to do the right thing and advocate for herself,
and it wasn't enough, and she was still sent home,
and then her body was used as if it were
a machine, as if it was you know, as if
she was less than human, just because some old white
dudes decided for her, decided.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
For her, not her husband, not her mother, not her son,
not her family, not.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Her husband who already had to grieve his wife and
his now son without his mother, but now has to
worry for the life of his newborn son, who may
or may not make it because he was kept alive
in a woman's body who was dead, effectively dead. So
my heart just goes out to Adriana Smith and her family.

(01:13:56):
I also want to someone had asked me to, you know,
what happened into the medical bills? Who pays who pays
the medical bills for keeping this woman alive for months
and months and now her newborn? And I don't know.
I don't know what the answer to that is. But
if it's not the State of Georgia, or I don't know,

(01:14:19):
I don't know, if it's not her family's insurance, even
insurance has its limits, you know, So if they have
a gofund me or they have any other way you
can support the family. I'll post that in the show notes.
We'll look it up. But I just wanted to. Yeah,
I hope. I just hope she's resting in peace now.
I hope that she gets to go in peace.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Fine, right, And I would definitely support that GoFundMe girl,
I would. And if anybody listening, if you haven't heard
the episode that Mandy did with doctor u J. Blackstock
from the She's the author of the book called Legacy,
which is about bias in healthcare, specifically against communities of
color and more specifically black communities. That episode was so good, Mandy,

(01:15:02):
like so good, and that book is so good. But
I love that you had doctor ujay on because she's amazing.
I recommend that for this specific topic. It was very powerful.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Thank you. Yeah. So I'm just sending love to you, Adriana.
I hope you're resting in peace, and to your family.
I mean, I know that their trauma continues on, but
you know that is the world we are in, right
And as I start to cry, I will let you on, Ellie,
Now bring us back up, bring us up, uplift us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
I'll make a connection in terms of why this matters
the most to me. Last year, in twenty twenty four,
the state of California passed a law that required financial
literacy to be taught as a semester, standalone, dedicated course
for all high school students before they graduate. So it's
a graduation requirement in the state of California. And I
was over the moon because California is the state that

(01:15:58):
has the largest population in the United States, so the
largest state by population and the largest percentage of Latinos
in the US that live in one particular state. Now
the second largest state by population is Texas, which has
the largest population of Black Americans, almost four million in
one state, which is Texas, and so about fourteen percent

(01:16:21):
of the population in the state of Texas is black.
And now Texas on Saturday, June twenty first, officially got
the law signed by the governor. So it is not
just passed the legislature, not the Senators and representative passed
the bill because that's what had happened before. But so
many times the bill passes and it sits on the
governor's desk for weeks and weeks and weeks it gets
ignored or the governor would pick it up and like

(01:16:42):
veto it if they don't like it. But in this case,
it was passed and signed into law on Saturday, June
twenty first, which means it is officially now a requirement
for high school graduation. It goes into effect officially on
in the fall of twenty twenty six, So this school
year twenty twenty five to twenty two twenty six, the
teachers are going to take this year to train, to plan,

(01:17:04):
the school districts are going to start making decisions about
what curriculum they're going to use, how they're going to
rearrange the master schedule to make sure every student takes
the class. And then starting in the twenty twenty six
twenty twenty seven school year, every single text in high
school kid that's in a public high school is guaranteed
access to an eighteen week long course dedicated to personal
financial literacy, all the things that we all wish we

(01:17:24):
had learned when we was in high school. So it
was a huge win. I mean, just based on the stats,
there's like we were at sixty five percent of students
in the US guaranteed access with the twenty eight states
that were already that had already passed this law, and
with Texas, it's now seventy five percent of students in
the US have guaranteed access.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
And this is the legislation that y'all wrote.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Then, basically, this is the legislation that we drafts. Start
push incredible and shout out to testified. There's videos on
my instagrament testifying, but the shoutout for shore goes to
Representative Lindagar's and Representative Ken King, who are the two
House the House representative. So Linda Garcia is a Democrat

(01:18:08):
and Ken King is a Republican, and so it was
a bipartisan effort, which means it doesn't matter if you're
a Republican or Democrat. Everyone agreed on both sides that
this was so important and that's why it was so
successful with so many, so many votes in support of it.
So it's official. If you live in Texas, spread the
word and if you see the news, share it far
and wide, because we need everybody to know that this
is an official change that happened, that it was signed

(01:18:29):
by the governor, and this is real, and no more
denying or making it an elective. It has to be
required in every single high school amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
So you're doing a little victory lap when you go
see Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Girl, it's a two for it. I'm going to see Beyonce.
But I'm also like, this is Texas. We won, Yes,
we did it. It was a long fight, and there
were so many things along the way that made me
think we were not going to win, that it wasn't
going to happen. There were so many hot political issues
like anding THHC product sales in the state of Texas

(01:19:03):
and a school funding bill getting the Ten Commandments posted
in public school. There was so much. There was so
much going on in Texas that was like distract It
was distracting people, I think from this bill that actually
is such a good thing. And we're over here fighting
about whether the Ten Commandment should be posted up in
the school. Students might not even say that, let's focus,
let's focus on what they're you know. So I'm so

(01:19:26):
glad it wasn't so much distraction to the point where
it kind of washed this bill off to the side.
This one really did make it to the end, which
it's very very hard to get a bill signed into law.
So I'm really really proud of Texas and I'm so
honored to have gotten to be a part of that
fight and to be able to tell the story. And
now now I'm like, Okay, which state is going to
be number thirty, number twenty nine? Yes, we got a

(01:19:48):
couple more twenty one more states to go. Who's going
to be number thirty?

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I'm cross? Is everything right? So now that Texas is
like the biggest one, it's like it doesn't become easier
to then convince more states.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Absolutely, because you have really big states like New York
who haven't who has not done it yet, Illinois, who
has not done it yet. And when they see big
states like California, Texas, Florida have already done it, they see,
oh there's no excuse, Oh we're too big to do that, No,
because there's precedent, like you said, So hopefully this definitely
makes the fight a little easier as we move forward.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I'm so glad you went last. Congratulations, Thank you, and
as you and the work you're doing is so impactful.
It already was, but it's just a lot of times
you don't get a chance to like see the impact.
But your work is, yeah, I mean it really, it
actually happens, and there's a lot of people working to
pass legislation that's so needed that don't get to celebrate that,

(01:20:39):
so and don't it doesn't get past, you know, the
filibusters and the bullshit. So just really excited for y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Yes, a little bit of the buss and all the
and all the madness going on.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
There's M's be helpful.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
She is be real helpful over there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Well, it's so nice to be with y'all again. Have
you back at the brown tape? Yeah, Nellie, have so
much fun in Houston. I can't be following you're I
g I'm gonna put my notifications on for your stuff. Yeah,
so the algorithm I'm gonna tag you so you can't.
And Chris, So, how many more sessions do you have

(01:21:16):
before you have your life plan all laid out?

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Oh? You know, I got homework now, but one more
and I actually have my whole I figured out. I'm
sure it all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Answers come, sure, But that's really exciting. I'm proud of
you too.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Oh, thank you. And before we go, I wanted to
know I sent you in you Nellie the link. I
did find that there is a go fund go fund
me for Adriana's family and because they were responsible for
the medical bills, I.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Will be clicking that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Yep, wonderful. Thank you. You're such a good on air
correspondent with the easy back checking access, that's what I
need video production often.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
You can come on. This is only when I ask
a question, that's all you're gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Oh man, I'm like that. Whenever I try to Google,
I'm like that snl s get the ego, what is
her name? Where she does like the cutting the steak
at the steakhouse, and I'm just like trying to google. Gosh,
hard to google. But now that's funny. Okay, ba Fam,

(01:22:20):
thank y'all so much for listening. If you want to
be in the live audience, nobody showed up to my
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Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Yeah, it can be last can be last minute.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Girl, that's my first time I got the invite out.
This is a success. Okay. Also, I hate a new
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do I have to say? Go be well, take care
of your loved ones, Go touch grass, hug somebody, check
it on somebody and yeah sending love, light, warmth. We'll
get through it somehow. It's gonna be so funny. All right,

(01:23:18):
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(01:23:38):
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