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August 11, 2025 41 mins

Tamra, Dolores and Wells are your faithful hosts, breaking down their experiences on The Traitors.

Did Wells’ wife try to sneak him a message during the game? Why was Tamra MIA at the beginning of her season? How did a stylist scam Dolores out of $50,000 before the show?

Though Wells was banished, Tamra was murdered and Dolores won the game, they all have a crazy story to tell…

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, welcome into the first ever episode of By Order
of the Faithfuls. I was a faithful I'm one of
your hosts. I'm Will's Adams.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I was a faithful one of the three hosts Tama.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Judge, Hi, I'm Delores Catana, and I was one of
the Faithfuls and the first housewife to ever win the show.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh that burns, that burns in all right?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I yeah, I was in two episodes. You were in
all of them.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Mine of the only house the only Okay, well, so
you were in two.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I was in five, and you were in every single
one of them.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I didn't want to leap.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
All I can think about is no phone for thirty days.
That's all I can think about, in that hotel, eating
chicken nuggets and one of those beans, those baked beans beans.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I ate chicken nuggets over salad and I don't even
like salmon. Well, maybe they upped it.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I was season two.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
All I wanted was to have a beer after filming,
and they wouldn't give me a beer. You never realized
how much of an alcoholic you are when you're like,
when you.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Can't have it?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
What beer?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, I don't drink at all, but let me tell
you after those round tables that I was begging for alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah yeah, well wait, you guys didn't get alcohol.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
No, and I come from a show why I am
the bartender and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Here a professional drinker.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, And I was like, wait, what all we do?
We not out of high wait drink?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
They would give us the little bottles, like the travel
sized bottles you get on the plane, plane size wine,
which gave you the worst headaches. Like you drank a
sip of that, you'd wake up the next day you
would think you drink awsome.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
It was literally an off brand wine and it tastes
like vinegar. The taste of it was so nasty. I
think they did that on purpose because they didn't really
want people drinking. And I had one, so I'm like,
well no, no, here, I got some one else can
have mine too.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
The worst headache I've ever You would have thought I
had the I don't know, a big hangover from what.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
You're somebody that doesn't drink. It pushed you to drink,
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's what this show does. It leads us all into
early alcoholism. Y, yes, yeah, we have something in common.
We're all faithfuls right, hence the name of the podcast.
Did anyone want to be a Trader? When you sat
down with Alan, did you say like, yeah, I want
to be a trader?

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I did, Like I was like saying something like oh oh,
thinking I was like cool, you know, now I'm in
the castle. Now I'm getting the fil I'm sitting in
front of Allan. I'm like, well, I've never really been
bad before, but maybe there's a side in me that
would come out. I want to shit in my pants.
If I was a trader, I wouldn't have lasted three seconds.

(02:51):
I can't lie for nothing. I mean, no, no, thank
god I didn't get picked. But then I got like, well,
it's like I got it insulted when it was yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, now for me, Honestly, I didn't know what I
was doing. I knew nothing about this game.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I watched it.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I'm like one of those people that I have to
actually do it to get it.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
So I was like, yeah, I'm a housewife.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I could do this. I can you know, Oh this
is nothing. This is nothing like you know, I housewives
like playing a game of chess, like.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, weight wars. So this day, I don't know what
I did. I don't know, and I did.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think I did say I wanted to be a trader,
but obviously they're like, nah, you're not cut out for it.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Why why I think it would have been good?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Damn well, I think going back, if I went back,
it would be, you know, a totally different game for me.
I was just trying to between being sick and trying
to figure out what I'm doing there, and it was
really difficult for me.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I wish I hadn't been indifferent, you know, like I
sat down with Alan and he's like, what do you
want to be? And I was like, I don't care.
I think i'd be a good trader, but I think
I would be a good faithful, like I think people
will like me. And I wish I had said I
want to be a trader, because after now playing the game,

(04:08):
at least you have control over your own fate. But
when you're a faithful you are just hoping for the
best and you might get cut way too early on
what happened to me, And so at least if you're
a trader, you have like some control over your faith.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Why do you think you got cut?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
What did you do? He didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I was saying, yeah, I don't think wrong. Yeah, I
don't really know why. What happened with me was the
day before we had a challenge and kind of after
the challenge, Derinda got like really angry, yes, and a
lot of people were like, she's kind of overacting, and
so a lot of people were like, we think she's

(04:49):
a trader. I was one of those people. And so
the next day, you know, I think everyone was like,
I think we're gonna all vote for Derinda. We all
think she's a trade. But then that night the traders
killed her. And so the next morning, when I found
out this information, I was like, that's so dumb, because

(05:11):
we were going to get rid of her. For you,
you should have taken out someone who was a threat,
because it was pretty evident that we all thought, and
so I was like, that's stupid. And then when I
said that, that like ruffled people's feathers and they were like,
so that's something that got maybe a trader would say,
and I was like, well, I think in the.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Very beginning, what I learned was you can't be overly opinionated,
because as some as you're overly opinionated or loud, or
you get mad or you accuse you got a target
on you.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, well so in the very beginning, you have nothing
to grab onto, so you could have said, oh, geez,
the sky is blue or something. The fact that you
even alluded to, oh, Dereinda was going anywhere or something
like that, it was just like, let's grasp on to that.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
But I mean, that's all you have at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
You did nothing. You did thing like you're like, his.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Eyes are crossed, he's gone, he's a trader.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
That's it gone.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
He breathed, he was breathing, heavy breathing, he was sweating. Yeah,
it's it's really all you have to go off of.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
If you guys have the opportunity to go back on
the show, would you try to be a trader?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
No, never want to be a trader. I enjoyed my
experience so much not being a trader that I think
when you're a trader, it's a very heavy burden lying
in real life, is it for me? I think the
gamers they like love to do it, they get off
on it, but I mean lying for me is is

(06:40):
very heavy, like it's and I feel that I didn't
have to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I think I would want to, just because I wasn't
one before, just sething different. But I agree, I think
it's a tougher job. Oh it's such a because you
really have to watch what you're saying and think about
what you're saying and not come dick yourself. And you know,
I think it would be really mentally very difficult.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I have to ask you, guys, because I never asked
you this, and and I'm curious, who did you reach
out to before you came on the show that had
previously been.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
On Kat Kate justin.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh, me too, definitely me too. I I reached out
to Kate Beedra Mji was wonderful. Kate was really really
good telling you know, she was very encouraging and the
little tips, little tricks of the trade, like this is
what how.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
To smuggle stuff in?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
No, I wouldn't now, I mean, you know, I mean.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Joking.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I just talked to Kate. I also talked to Brandy.
I talked to a few people that you know, you
don't get anything like nothing like you. They take all
your medication, all every you know everything. I had my
car keys in my purse. I forgot to take them out.
They took my car keys from me.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Like they opened up my shampoo bottle and was like
smelling it and looking in and pulling. I'm like, oh
my god, could you imagine if you actually tried to
smuggle something in, like you know, here's a little xanax,
or here's something helped me sleep.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Whatever. I used to do strip searches when I was
a corrections officer years ago.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
But you enjoyed that.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I no, I didn't. But they don't make it like
squat and cough.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, they don't. So you can just stick it right
up your butthole.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
You can always do that if it means that much
to you. There's nothing, I'm nothing that important to me.
And as a matter of fact, when I got there,
I gave my phone up early. I'm like, just take it.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
What is wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Oh Tamra, you need you are so funny, like you
have to be on top of everything. I cannot live
without Frankie Punicelli. She's walking around here right now. My says,
I cannot Otherwise I'm just unorganized. I don't want to
look at things until I have to be there. I
can't you.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I need to know everything before it even happens.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
How did you do it? How did you go?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, I need to know every step of the way.
How's this going to happen, what's gonna happen tomorrow. I
know it's weird. I need to turn this bright off,
but it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I wanted to ask this question to you because I
did it, and I wanted to know if other people
were doing it. So kind of famously, you get to
call your partner or spouse or whatever, and but you
know someone's in the room watching you FaceTime with them,
so you don't say anything. You don't spill anything. Oh yeah, yeah.
But my wife, who's a huge fan of the show,

(09:50):
wanted to know what was going on.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
So she was.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Based up a picture and it said like Trader aw
or like no trade of it. I was wondering if
you guys tried to like relay some information to your
to your like, uh, your partner, Who were you called
about what was going on in your life?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
No? I didn't, No, No.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
My situation was a little bit different because I got
sick and I had to take quite a few days off,
so they wouldn't give me my phone, but they gave
me like this uh burner phone kind of it where
I could watch Netflix. So I was able to crack
that phone and.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Text really yes telling.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So I don't know how I did it, I can't remember,
but I was able to text.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Determine woman, I know, I know, So who did you text?
And what did you text?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
My assistant, my husband. It was more about me being
sick than anything else. It wasn't really well, that's fair,
that's fair. Yeah, because at that point I had filmed
one day one, you know, the first episode. I don't
know if it's like this for you guys, but the
first episode was filmed in three or four days. Yeah,
so you had to wear the same outfit for four days.

(11:07):
So I made it to the very first filming and
I'm like roight raw. So I'm not right, I'm not
feeling good, and I just went down for the count down.
And so I got to the point where I had
no voice. I couldn't even talk. I sound like a
seal when I was talking. I had this horrible respiratory infection,
and so I couldn't even call anybody because I couldn't

(11:29):
even talk. I called my husband. Let me call my husband,
and stood in front of me and he's like, what
the hell, like you need to get to a hospital,
and I'm like trying to talk to him and he
was freaking out. And then by the time I got
back on the show was probably four days later.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
So did they that's crazy? Was there ever a thought
that you needed to go home? Like production was like
you got to go or was ever I thought that
you were like I need to go home because I
don't feel well? Or did you always I would have
gone home easily.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know how they have the psychiatrist or a psychologist
whoever comes in and.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Victoria is lovely. I wanted it's still cy when I
got home, she didn't.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I was a guy I can't remember his name, but
he actually, you know, because I had like doctors, I
had medics, I had zoom doctor, I had all kinds
of medication. So the therapist came in and he said, listen,
if you don't go in tomorrow, you got to go home,
you know, And and they gave you no choice. It

(12:28):
gave me no choice. They said, you're going to be
out too many days, You're gonna have to go home.
You're gonna miss too much of it. And he told
me be goes. Let me just tell you now, you're
going to have an advantage because you've been sick and people.
You're gonna last longer because people are.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Just sorry for you.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Oh yeah, liked So I literally said, I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So the next day I literally sat on the floor
of the shower and just sat there for like ten
minutes and got my courage up to get because you
have to do yoursel well, Freddy. There's no glam team,
there's no nothing. And then you got that forty five
minutes to an hour drive to the castle. I remember
getting there and Larsa go in, Sis, you look terrible,

(13:11):
and I cope. I was pale as a go. She's like,
you need blush, you need something. I'm like, it is
what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Listen. I don't even know how to put mascara on myself.
I had a glam team here before.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
It is I do.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
You're very good with your makeup. But you know who
was the bomb with her makeup and her lashes every day,
even on three hours. Phaedra Yes Pedro was ma. She
was injured, she had torn achilles or something, and also
she was she was also a trader. So you don't

(13:44):
get that much sleep.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean, as a faithful how many hours a night
sleep did you guys get?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Not that many? Right? More four?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Maybe five? Because they wouldn't give me wine before bed,
which was annoying.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
For those of you that don't know. After the round table,
we all go dispersed to where we have to go singularly.
Like you, now, you get cut off from communication until
the next day. You're not talking about the roundtable. They're very,
very strict with this stuff. You're not allowed to talk
about the game. We all come together as a group

(14:20):
before we go to bed, and we sit there and
we talk about anything but the game. And we're dying
if we can talk, because we just probably banished a
faithful life, poor wholes, and everybody's upset about it. So
they say that because the traders have to stay longer,
and they say, look at the person who's most tired

(14:41):
the next day. Yeah, and you really it's hard to
pick out because at one point Janelle I n was
sleeping underneath the table and she was the length of
the table. Actually, oh my gosh, she got underneath the
breakfast table and slept there, and people were like, oh,
she must be a trader because she so tired.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Well, people thought that Chara was a trader because she
wasn't getting super glammed up. They thought, oh, she doesn't
have time, she doesn't have time. But then you see Phaedra,
who's you know, mile long eyelashes and the whole outfit on,
and she was a trader.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
There's so many, so many things debunked when you leave,
like that you go on while you're there because there's
very little clues, and then when you leave, you're like, yeah,
that's that's what I was told to look for when
I got there, and it actually made no sense at all.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well, well, how long were you actually there? How many days?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Oh? I think my travel to to Inverness was longer
than I was there for. I think, let's see, you're right,
like the first day filming took I think two days
or two or three days, and then we I think
we then we did a challenge and then went to bed,
and then Dorinda got killed, and then we did another

(15:56):
challenge and then I was banished that and so like,
I have six days, So I didn't really get to
experience the show the way that you guys did. I
think a big part of the show that I think
we need to talk about and especially when we start
watching new seasons and stuff and breaking them down, is
how important the fashion is. And obviously for you guys

(16:16):
who are fashionistas, I'm sure this is was a very fun,
like little additive and wrinkle into the show. But for me,
as someone who doesn't ever have like people do my
wardrobe and stuff, that was a fun thing for me
and I got all these outfits And the biggest bummer
for me wasn't that I banished first that.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
You didn't wear your outfits.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
No one saw any of the stock had.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Stop You're probably never gonna wear No.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's I don't where am I wearing a tweet overcoat?

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Well, for some reason, you that style fits you, your hair,
You look like for me, like a guy from like
the forty kind of look. You have that nostalgic kind
of looks. So don't think you can wear those clothes
because they belong on you. You actually fit the bill well.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
So this is my question with the wardrobe of it all,
because I didn't get to wear any of that. I
think I had two outfits doors you were there to
the end, did you run out of outfits like that?
I would assume that I would have like run out
of things to wear.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
No, I didn't. But I have a fun fact behind
the scenes as well.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Tell us.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
So I was working with a stylist and she would
order things like on my credit card and like send
it to me. That's how you do with stylists, right,
And I kept calling her and I was like, where's
my stuff, where's my staff? And then I realized that
I had about fifty thousand dollars charge on my credit card.
I never got one thing, so it was going to

(17:56):
her for herself. And I've never spoke about this before.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Wait, wait she was scammed publicly.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah. Yeah, she had a very big problem totally.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
So so she won with tartan plaid outfits.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
She wasn't buying all Tartan plaid. She was buying why
I sell leather bags and size extra small clothing, which
on my best day.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Did you get your money back?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
AMX? Yeah? But it was a fight. It was a
fight because you know, I was going I kept getting nervous,
like where's my clothes? And I was getting a run
around and run around. She's like, no, no, no, I'm
packing everything in a box and I'm gonna send it
to you, which didn't make sense because she from lived
in another place and I would have had to pay
a tarofin of taxes on it for being shipped, So

(18:47):
just didn't make sense for her not to send it
directly to me. But I was so busy and I
couldn't get any of the When it started to become
suspicious to me, I was going to bed one night
and all these charges popped up on my phone and
it was like four thousand dollars Revolve twenty five hundred
Fartech and I guess, you know, but then it was

(19:08):
this is what caught my eye Sephora nine hundred dollars.
I'm sorry. I'm a beauty past member for New Beauty Magazine.
I get stuff. I get new products sent to me
every week for shipping and handley. I have beauty products
up my ass. I don't know she screwed up.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, you know what de lauris. That's why I bought
all my clothes four traders on Amazon.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Get it out.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Really yeah, I did because I felt like I'm never
going to wear all the and I kind of got
into it with the berets and the plaid, you know,
jackets and all that stuff. I got ninety five percent
of it off of Amazon, and then when I got home,
I gave it to Goodwill. So I was thinking like

(19:54):
maybe I would put something on today that was very
you know Scottish. I got nothing, not even I did
even save a beret.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
They sent me a cloak. I was gonna wear that
they did, but I wasn't a trader, so I would
feel like I was cheating. You know.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I really got into it though. I got into the fashion,
and it was a little upgraded after every season because
of his costumes and because this has gotten so popular. Yeah,
the fashion gets bigger and more competitive and more amazing.
So you know, it was hard for me. I'm gonna

(20:33):
be honest with you. Guys. Well, I know you don't
care about this. The fucking castle was freezing. It was
cold and wet. There's no hater, and Chrishelle and little
Gadby Windy and I'm sitting there with Sierra and all
these cute little and you know, even.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Little rareaked, probably naked, short ass skirts, no clothes, and
I'm lyaring when I get there. I mean, I hate
to be cold, and the weather, I I think, wells
you can you can attest to. This was the worst
weather they had seen in years during that time, a
lot of rain, cold and rainy cold.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Well know, he's only there five days.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, it seemed lovely to me. I suppose he's like,
don't bitch about the weather.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I would have done anything.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
To stay earnest. Chanelle, I am needed a defibrillator when
you left. She was sobbing, so ah loves loves you.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Wait, I want to go back to your clothes, so
you didn't get them? So did you go like on
a shopping spree right before having to leave.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I had to spend almost close to that because I'm
not I was dumb onlike Tamera, and I didn't have
time to pull and I had eight hours a day
on the phone with MX and all these other places
that I got ripped off from and having stylists there
called Cinemadesto, the style duo Twins and my very good
friend Sonica take doing everything they could to help me

(21:58):
get ready. So that's how I left. And it seems
so you guys a but.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
You guys both went into it going I am going
to dress the part.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yes, yeah, well to some extent, and I don't know
that I dressed the part.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Who was the best dressed on your guys' cast?

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Oh god, Bob Harper, did you see his clothing? It's
couture and Wells is a close second from what I saw.
But Bob Harper and then wait, Sandoval lost his luggage.
He didn't get it for like a full week.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, over that kilt forever.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
He was in the same kilt and he walked in.
We knew, we knew he got his luggage back when
he walked in looking like top gun.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah. I wanted to ask you guys because it's a
unique show and how it's filmed. It's different than the
shows that I normally film in terms of their interview process,
and I wanted to know if it was like this

(23:01):
for you guys. So you know, when I do Paradise
or if I'm hosting a show, usually i have a
producer next to a camera talking to me and I'm
having a rapport back and forth. But in this situation,
it's just kind of like a speaker the box above. Yeah,
camera talking to you one. Is that how you guys
normally are filming?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah? That was the confessionals.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, Yeah, it's different. I was shocked, Well, was when
I found out that the person that's talking to me
was a half a mile away.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Interesting, can we just talk about our first walk into
the round table for all of us? What a kind
of feeling is that it's like, wow, shit just got real.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Well, so you walk into it the first time to
see if you become a faithful or a trader, right,
like yeah, yeah, So that's a different feeling than going
into it, like for the banishment thing. Let's talk about
that moment that Alan's walking around and we're all wearing
they make you put in these crazy blindfolds. You can't

(24:02):
see anything anything, And Alan walks around a lot more
than they show on TV because he's really trying to
like confuse you. What are your what are the thoughts
going through your mind at that moment? Are you scared?
Are you excited? What are you feeling?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I think for me, I was like you could hear
him come by, here's footsteps.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
And I'm like, just pick me, just pick me?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah and no, and then he goes around again and
again and again. But his outfit that he wore that
day was very stiff, and I heard him tap on
Dan's shoulder because Dan was next to me, you did.
I was convinced, convinced.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I had the exact same story.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Okay, so you heard it too, and it kind of
got brought up where Larsa said, I heard his jacket move,
so you had that on yours as well.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I So I sat next to Danielle who was a trader,
and it was me yes, and I could have sworn
that he taps someone next to me, and I wasn't
sure who it was, and I think I said it
like right when you get out, I'm like, I think
he someone right right bye bye me. And then of course,

(25:23):
like an hour later, I've completely forgotten about that and
I'm using that information. But then when I got off
the show and they kind of they revealed to you,
I was like, it was right. I heard it.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I knew I did knew it wells you could have
got took out the best trader there, she was the most.
But they don't have people.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
On your side in evidence other than I heard that tap.
And those are those things you like keep inside, like
you don't reveal it right at the beginning, because then
you just get a target put on you and you're.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Like, uh, yeah on to me. Yeah. After Alan kind
of does this thing and he is a couple of
people and then you have to take off that sounds weird,
the blindfold.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
That sounds weird.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Alan. So but when when you have to take off
the blindfold, you have you have to have a game
plan of how you're going to look right and like
what you're gonna do, yeah, because you don't want to
look guilty?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
What what was your what.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Were you thinking? I'm going to look around, I'm gonna
be a stoag, I'm gonna be what are you? What
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I would just try not to laugh or smile because
that's just like my default when I'm anxious or whatever
it is for people to be like why are you smiling?
So I was just like very like looking around, looking around, judging, judging,
but I was wondering, like what your guys's thoughts are,
because there's there was like the Tom Sandoval who like
gave everyone the stink eye, which made oh.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
He had the one eyebrow up and then he's like
going after Crashelle. Yeah, you couldn't stand him as it is.
It's a bad move.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm shocked that guy made it as far as he did.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well. One of the traders like did him.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Well, I don't know what they liked about him.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
I think what they liked about him is that he
kind of was an agent of chaos, and that's a
great thing for the traders to be able to utilize,
because he was always just like blaming people and.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Oh, like me whiles you missed it.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh, I know. I watched it and I was like,
what are you talking about? It seems so written down,
And if I was, I was like, if I'm a trader,
I love this. This guy is making everyone look every
other way but the right way.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
The most faithful of all. And he would be like,
and Dylan Efron did come to my rescue. But they
did cut out a lot of They did cut out
a lot of him at the round me and him
at the roundtable, going at it every night for fifteen minutes.
Because by that time, wells, I think he had figured

(27:54):
out that Carolyn was a trader.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
But she liked him.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, so he was trying to and then people were
starting to think, oh Carolyn, Carolyn, I'm like, how could
she handle anything? She's falling apart every three seconds. And
then he wanted it to get off of her and
onto me. One of the reasons, And the other reason
is the whole housewife theory.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, I remember buying into that theory, like odds are
one of you guys has to be because there was
so many housewives. But great job on like the producers,
because we all went down that road, and that was
the wrong road to go.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
It would have been the most obvious road because everybody's like, yeah,
get rid of the housewives. Get rid of the housewives.
So it's kind of like putting Tom Sandoval as a trader.
We already know as a trader, so let's not put
him in that role.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
He had said, so before we you know, in the
morning of the first day and everybody's waiting in cars,
there's a couples. Who were you with, wells, I.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Was with This is what was so heartbreak to me.
I was with Robin, who was the one who like
kind of tried to get rid of me. Robin. I
was with Sam and I was with Ian, and I
thought they were all my friends.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Diane is for sure.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
For sure, you definitely get a there's a bond with
those people that you because the very first people don't
know this, but the very first when you drive to
the castle, you're with like with three or four people for.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
The first time, and you're before you go up in
the car, we were stuck in that car for a long,
long time, long time, and so you get to know
each other and you're like, yes, we're a team.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
We're not gonna, you know, do anything, We're gonna stay together.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
And then yeah, and then but that's actually the first
time you you can see who's really there. I didn't
go there knowing a lot of people were going. I
knew Derinda was going. I did not know Iane was going.
She happens to be a friend of mine. So it's
very time out. So you show up and while you're
sitting there and people are getting micd you're like, oh shit,

(30:04):
that's sam Ashcary. Oh wait, that's still an effront. Like
then you start like trying to figure out who the
people are.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, was there anyone you didn't know?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Me?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
All the gamers. I don't watch gamers.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
I didn't know the gamers either. People warned me because
it kind of leaked on the plane there, and so
I got messages from people I know him, the press
and stuff, and they're like, don't trust Dan, do not
trust Dan. And I'm like, I don't even know who
Dan is. And I met Dan and he was in
my car, so I spent a lot of time with him,
and he was so nice and so kind to me,

(30:37):
and he wanted to talk to me about my kids
and my husband, and he talked about his wife and
like just this nice, wholesome guy that was so kind.
He told me how his wife wrote him letters and
he had to open one up every single day out
of his suitcase.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh my god, he was so sweet. I'd hate him
right off the bat, go away. Ah.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
So he was a trader. He was a trader, but
I kept him close because of that.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Oh yeah, I mean I try not keep him close.
He told you his whole life story.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I know and more friends to this day. I thought
he was the one that murdered me because the night
before I got murdered.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
By the way, I apologize, I'm kidding, but.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, yeah, no, the night before I got murdered, I
was finally starting to feel okay, starting to feel like
the antibius kicked in. I was like, let's do this shit.
So Dan, I'm like, listen, this is the first really
gaming talk I had. And I don't know I was
talking about to listen, nobody suspects us. Well, i've been sick,
you've been quiet. Let's team up together, let's you know,

(31:35):
be allies and going on on. He's like yeah, yeah.
The next morning, I'm murdered and I find out he's
a trader. So I thought for sure he was the
one that murdered me, and it was actually Phaedra.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Oh my god, wait, well, it's like that's crazy. How
did you feel when I know you got very nervous.
I was sitting next to you. I felt so bad
for you when you were like, you know, getting like
choked up a little bit. Because now it's the first
round table tam or you would have felt so bad.

(32:08):
And he's starting to get very nervous and upset, and
he didn't know. It's almost like we don't know what
this feels like yet, we're not used to it. He's
the first one to get banished and he's like, but
why are you coming for me?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Like why?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
But we're friends, like you and I talk and oh
my god, it was like this is so hard.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
It was.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
It was also a kind of out of the blue.
I didn't like, I think for some people, they know
people are talking about him and then I remember, for me,
they think Dylan came to me maybe twenty minutes before
we went to the round tables like hey, people are
saying your name, and then Krashelle did the exact same thing.
And then I was like, oh my god, okay, I

(32:51):
need to go politic around and be like, I'm not
a I'm not a trader. I don't know what you
guys are talking about. But then, of course, like right
when I get that information, it's everyone be quiet, everyone's
sitting down, and I was like, oh, shut it. But
here's the behind the scene thing that really really bugged me.

(33:13):
They you know, before you go into the round table,
they sit everyone down, they make everyone be quiet, right,
And so we're all sitting there and all of a sudden,
the producer comes in the room and says, well's you
need to come with me and singles me out and
I leave the room and so he's like follow me,
and I'm like, okay, what are we doing? And he's like, yeah,

(33:36):
we just want to do a quick health check on you.
And I was like, why why are you taking me out?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
What stop right now? Why? I was why.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
They wanted to do a health check on me?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I I do mental health.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
No, so I do have Did you get hurt? I
have high blood pressure, but I take medication for it.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
But they didn't. They were worrying about that when I
was running windsprints up and down a mountain that's like chokens.
They didn't care. Then it was just right before the thing,
and I was so so I started to yell at
the producer. I was like, what are you doing. You're
singling me out right before we're going in there. If
I'm one of those cast members, I'm like, he's obviously

(34:21):
going home because he's obviously having to go into interview.
And they're like, no, that's not what we do. And
I said, well, that's what we do on my television show,
so why wouldn't it happen on this one and like no, no,
we're just trying to do a health check. And I
was like, yeah, but I'm the only one who you've
pulled out, and now I know that everyone's like thinking
of a voting for me. And I was like, you're

(34:44):
just singling me. This isn't fair. And they were like, okay,
no health check, and I'm like, well, the damage is done.
And then the next thing is we walk in there
and all of a sudden, everyone's coming at me, and
I was like, man, it seems like the deck was
stacked against me.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Okay, so you were banished, right, you weren't murdered, he
was okay. So because I was gonna ask, there is
a room. I do believe that everybody that gets murdered in.
Did you know those holding rooms. There's like three holding rooms.
The room that you get murdered in is the same
that I got murdered in. I was hold waiting because

(35:18):
you wait for breakfast and they have you. All all
of us are in stuff when we're teamed up, you know,
three or four people together. So Johnny Bananas was murdered first,
and we were in this one room and Johnny Bananas
got murdered. So five days later, whatever it is, I'm
in that room and they said, okay, Tamra, come on,

(35:40):
and I turned around and I don't know if it
was Trachelle or Janelle or whenever I go I'm dead,
I'm dead. And sure enough, they walked me straight through
the courtyard into that little room where the chair is
and there's your note saying, you know, I'm getting a
little sick. Thinking about it, But can we talk about
the actual mental health aspect of it, because they tell

(36:03):
you that it plays with your head because when you're
in that castle, they play creepy music for you, that
hanging Tree song. I couldn't stop listening to it even
when I when I got home, I would play it
just to play it. You don't know what time it is.
You don't know what day it is half the time,
Like if you I remember asking a producer, I like
what time is it? And she goes, I don't know

(36:25):
what time is it. I'm like, oh, okay, we're not
gonna Like the only way I knew what time or
day was was the thermometer in our bedrooms, in the
hotel room.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
It's a little bit like forced schizophrenia, like you are
constantly thinking people are out to get you.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
It's forced paranoia.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so much paranoia. You think everyone's out
to get you. It definitely does play with your mind
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
And you know, here's the other mind a lot.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
I loved it. Here's the other thing.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
You are diabolicals?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
What you are?

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I think? So? Maybe? But they are this thing? Why
is it doesn't get dark until in Scotland until about
two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, so you really don't
get it's in the weirdest way. You don't really get tired.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Remember that, So the.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Cows were grazing still. You would look out that beautiful
scenery of that castle and the cows would be grazing,
and it's still bright and light out. Not knowing what
time it is, you get back to your room and
you look and it's like one o'clock in the morning
or two o'clock in the morning, and then it gets
dark around I guess to thirty ish. So you're just

(37:36):
going and going and going. But I'll tell you what else.
The food is not good, but it's healthy, farm to table.
There's no outity.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
They must have upgraded for you guys.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
No, I'm not saying it was good. Tammar. You're not
an eater, so it doesn't matter. I've spent days with
you at a time and I did not see you eating. No,
I'm not saying you starve yourself. You just don't live
to eat like myself.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
So I'm not I'm not a big eater.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You're not a big eater. I'm Italian from New Jersey.
I am telling you that I craved spaghetti and meat
balls from the minute I got there. But he got
beans and so and fried chicken. But the food is
so clean that your whole body kicks in. As far

(38:27):
as you're not tired, you don't wake up with aches
and pains. You're all the ship as food with you.
You're not being filled with the poison that I mean literally,
the food in this country. You could put in a
chalice and kill somebody over there because it is.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
So Did you lose weight?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yes, I was.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Oh my god, go look at my my picture. It's
look a natural.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's a natural zembic. Guys just go on so amazing.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
But talk about feeling good like just well, I call
it shit.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I don't know what you're talking about. A bit, I'm sorry, Yeah,
so weird, Like seriously.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Well listen, speaking of appetites, I hope everyone out there
has a big appetite for this show that we're about
to embark on. We're gonna have a lot of fun
breaking down old seasons of the show. We're going to
start next episode with season one, episode one. We're going
to break it down. So we want you guys out
there to watch as along with us and then come

(39:31):
back on the show and listen to how we're breaking
everything down, because this is going to be a lot
of fun. Then, of course, when the new season comes out,
we'll have a lot of guests from the season on
and we're gonna get to kind of experience this show
through a bunch of Faithful's eyes.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I'm really excited about interviewing people that from the past
seasons as well. I think that that's going to be
really cool.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I think everybody'll have experiences to share. One of the
main things that I when I meet people, they have
so many questions. People are so invested in this show
it's not even funny, and there are a lot of questions.
So I'd like to talk about a lot of the
questions people have and from you know, everybody has a
different experience there, so talk about the different experiences. And

(40:18):
this is going to be so exciting and I can't
wait to build our little community here.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, and if you guys have questions for us, go
follow us on Instagram at by order of the faithfulds.
You can DM us there also if you can do
video messages on the dms and then we can play
them and then answer your questions. Yeah, so cool.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Good idea. Guys.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I have one question closing here. Do you think that
it would be It would be different but exciting if
even the viewers did not know who the Traders were. Yes, yes,
if they did a season where they disguise their voice,
didn't show their face and even us watch and did

(41:00):
not know who the.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Traders are, you know what. I think that needs to
be done because everybody is a lot to say when
they know who the Traders are, like k, you do
not know, Hug. But now I want them to live
it as.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
A player, as a faithful I think that would be
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, all right, we'll be back again next week. Everyone
out there listening by order of the Faithfuls on iHeartRadio, app,
Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Ladies, Thank
you so much. Is a fun first episode, so much fun.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Thank you, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Right to you, guys.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
You Saven
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