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April 25, 2024 53 mins

Chelsea chats about robot overlords then makes several half-hearted attempts at guided visualizations with largely disinterested callers who probably have Aphantasia. An overlong discussion of B12. Salad talk. A celebration of Kojak’s songs. Comment section outrage. Sweet tooth snacks. Protein. A brown recluse cameo featuring tunneling necrotic flesh. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They just wanna. They just wanna.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
They just want, They just want, they just want just funny,
they just want just they just wann.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
They just fun up. Just was already calling hey, hey, hello, Hey,
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I did not expect to get through.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh my gosh, first call of the pod. Welcome. Now
I'm doing a very special episode. But right now you're
part of the warm up. I'm having some coffee. You're
the first call. Let's start revving our engines.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
What kind of coffee?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, my producer at the moment, Laura made it. I
did full makeup and hair. I've been scared straight ever
since my ro Sheen Connardy episode.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
See I saw the videos of that and thought you
looked gorgeous. And I'm not just sucking up.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you think a purple eyebrow is editorial, because you
know I have an obsession with editorial makeup. First of all,
I do not accept that you actually think that. I
think I do think you're sucking up because I look
like I look like a bald eagle. And I don't
even mean like a bald eagle animal that you know
that exists. I mean like a fictional animal that's like

(01:43):
a bald old man with an eagle's beak, and I
watched those videos. I was scared straight. I was like, yes,
mister patriarchy, I will do full makeup forever more.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'm sure the makeup looks great too, But I swear
to you I'm not just talking. I was like, oh
my god, Elsey is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, you're crazy. You're actually mentally ill. Oh, I can't
say that probably anymore. People don't like that.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's also true, I don't think it's gone.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
We can't say mentally ill anymore. Right, what do you
say on the spectrum?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
The more sensitive way to say it is a person
with mental illness or someone who experiences mental health problems.
This utilizes person first language. This is from a quick
Google search.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh god, this is I think might be worse.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I'm digging an absolute grave. I'm tunneling down like
the Foxes and Fantastic Man Staring Friends just rewatched. Anyway,
The lights have never been brighter in here. My face
has never been more beat. This is no Actually, wait

(02:56):
till you see these clips from the episode that's about
to come out with Blake Andrew in full face, And
guess what, I'm incredible. It's like it actually makeup is
actually fucking amazing, Like it really does make you look incredible.
You know, when we were making my movie first time
female Director out on Roku, now, Benito Skinner would always

(03:20):
steal my Tacha illuminating face mist He'd like literally come
where I was getting my makeup done and put his
face in my airspace and my makeup artist would miss him,
and I'm like, can you fucking get out of here? Yeah,
he was just like, of course used to you know,

(03:42):
he's used to being in Dubai doing designer events. That
seems like what he does every weekend. So for him
to be on an indie movie like begging for Tacha,
what a what a disgrace. Anyway, when when we wrap,
he gave me like this little what is it? It's

(04:05):
like a fleece, a zip up fleece that I wanted.
He gave it to me with Tacha in each pocket.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
That's very sweet.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
At all, this whole story was made up. None of
it happened great anyway, what about you?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Well, I am pretending to work right now.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's what seems to be a theme when people call in.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well yeah, well I'm on the East coast, so.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, list in work sucks when people call from work.
I'm like, of course, but it's like, you know, when
AI takes over and there's really no jobs except manual labor,
we'll be thinking of these as the gravy days.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know, it's like every job will just be a
robot and you'll be like, Okay, I can either work
digging ditches or I am I guess I don't know
how it's all going to pan out.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I wanted to say, I was watching You're not gonna
believe me. I was watching the Home Shopping Network and
saw you on Curtistone's shop.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Oh now, how what did you think?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I thought it was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I loved that show. Curtis Stone, what a charming man.
Also the most in depth interview I've ever done. Like
his team, his producing team is stellar. Also, he sent
me a pie, the salted Caramel Apple. I can't remember

(05:40):
now if it was for my birthday or the movie,
but I'm like, what a class act across the board. Yeah, yeah, he.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Think was great. That piloked good too. I mean, I
know there was some some conversation about the crumb top
and what you might prefer otherwise but it still looked delicious.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Of course, it looked delicious. Nost okay, fair it up
for that salted caramel apple that he makes. I think
it is absolutely divine. The tart cherry I'm chasing the
what do you call it chasing a dragon? I don't know,
but I cannot locate the tart cherry pie. Of a

(06:18):
couple places that used to have it in my life
that I loved, one being bright Spot, I'm pretty sure
they had it, and the other was this cafe in Brooklyn,
which I can't even remember the name of when I
lived in Parkslope. All I remember is like it was
random that they had pie. It wasn't a pie shop.
I don't even think the place exists anymore. But they
had incredible tart cherry pie. And getting that tart sweet

(06:41):
combo with black coffee or with that bitterness of the
coffee is so good, and that is what I hunt for.
Now he put almond in, I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa?
What are we doing?

Speaker 6 (06:54):
Kurt?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Calling him Kurt? Kurt? What are we doing? Mister Stone?

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Okay, I wonder if anyone does call him Kurt? Does
it doesn't feel right for some reason.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, it feels very transgressive, right, like Kurt stop it
with the almond extract, You're you're enough, You're enough. And
also he also put two kinds of cherries. I'm like,
just do the tart ones. I want full tart. But
I was trying, you know, I was trying to be
relatively meek and mild and just go with them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, there was a good interplay. I could tell you know,
I could tell you had opinions, but I didn't think
you were being good. And what do you want to say,
I'm generous?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah I was. I was trying to be. Well, listen,
I wasn't even trying to be I was appreciative. I mean,
it is crazy when you have Curtis Stone trying to
make you a pie. You gotta appreciate pie. Yeah, you
gotta appreciate that. That is That's quite a day in
h Town. That's what I call Hollywood, but it's actually

(07:58):
what people call Houston. So anyhow, today I'm gonna do
a very special episode and this call here is a
complete departure from where we're headed. So we're gonna do
a visualization. Yeah, we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I'm glad that I didn't call a second later because
I have that thing called a fantasia where you simply
cannot visualize.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
No, you do not know, you don't.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, what is going on.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
In this world? What is going on? This is wild?
I am truly I need to get who's a doctor
that I can get back? Can I talk to doctor Langer?
Can I get Can I get doctor Langer back to
discuss this? I mean ask him? He probably hates me.
Like the podcast Listen, he was on the early episodes

(08:52):
where I was like, I'm gonna interview people every week,
and then it was like zoom, it's hard. And then
I'm like, I don't want to like be my normal
ill you know, I want to say sassy, but I
hate the word sassy. I can't be my normal self
because I've asked someone to come on my show, and
it's like I don't want to humiliate them, but I
feel like I can't be jokey because they're serious. So

(09:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
But anyway, yeah, I'm sure it's hard to get the
vibe right.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, exactly. But I do love doctor Langer, yeah, and
I would love him to weigh in on this because
the fact that so many people have. This is astounding
to me, Like, you know, I really think that I'm
a visual learner and I can't understand. How do you
like when I read something, if a part of it
stands out in my mind, I remember the part of

(09:39):
the page that I read it on, Like, I'll literally
be like it was on the upper left page of
the book. If I'm looking for a quote or something.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
I feel like sometimes that might be.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
The case for me.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Then you don't have it more like I have to.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
It's more like I have to look at the page
and then I'll be like, oh, yeah, it's like I've
read this part. It's like I have to situate myself first,
you know.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
But like, okay, here's a question. Can you when you
think of your parents or whoever raised you can't presume
it was a mom and dad. Could have been anyone,
could have been your grandma, so you could have been
a ward of the state. These days, you cannot make
any assumptions about anything.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Okay, in the state there was a mom and a dad.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Okay, can you imagine their faces right now?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
No, I really can't.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
That's insane. That would break my heart as them. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, it's more like I remember like specific traits, Like
you know, they always say, imagine an apple, and that's
like the classic example, and I can think of like
traits that like I can think of a color and
know that something is that color, but I'm not seeing it.
If that makes since it's all like in words in
my head, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
It doesn't make sense. I mean, it's just super weird.
And the whole apple thing is so weird. Like I mean,
I guess it's weird because if I go, if I'm
imagining an apple, it's like, yeah, it's not like a photo,
but I can, you know, essentially see an apple in
my mind's eye. Anyway, whatever, We've already covered this, this disease,
what is it? It's not a disease, it's like a condition

(11:23):
or something. It's at this point it's pedestrian on this podcast.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, well it seems big. How many people say they
have Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Every other caller can't envision anything.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, you're in trouble.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Like when you create a vision board, is it like
literally so you can see you all Right, I'm going
to start my guided meditation visualization for half the callers,
You're not going to know what the hell is going on.

(11:58):
Because you can't visualize anything. Yeah, all right, bye, all right.
You're in the forest and there's a warm breeze blowing
through your hair as the bird song fills your ears

(12:18):
with joy and peacefulness. Frogs and insects fill a nearby
creek bed. Whoa, you're making a fire to make the
morning's coffee. Oh, breathing in the fresh mountain air. Oh yeah,

(12:45):
last night was a little crazy. Wolves surrounded the camp site,
filling your heart with a wretched fear. Your little pup
was no match for those woes who got agitated in

(13:08):
the tent. But this morning all is peaceful. You're making
your little fire by the side of a creek, getting
ready to fry up some eggs and drink some hot

(13:29):
black coffee.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
Yay, Wow, what a beautiful morning.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Totally I'm feeling good. Coffee cranking, getting ready to have
that coffee, and just taking the sunshine and be one
with the earth, and remember that you are the earth
and the earth is you. You're not a separate thing. God.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
I've been reading a lot of Alan Watts.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
You're right, who's Alan Watts? Now?

Speaker 8 (14:05):
Alan?

Speaker 7 (14:05):
Watch he he was like a philosopher and astro whatever
you know, Alana.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Usually usually astrophysicists.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Right, I think, But I'm not that smart.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Unless it's like astro turf supplier.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
Maybe.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
Also, I just finished The Doors of Perception by Hustley.
That's a little drugy though, but it's the same kind
of thing.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Are these you seem to love? Men?

Speaker 9 (14:38):
Men?

Speaker 6 (14:39):
I'm a Luscian.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Why don't you read a couple of ladies books once
in a while?

Speaker 9 (14:48):
Good idea?

Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yes, it's.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
Yeah, okay, you know, yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
How about Harookie the comics? Isn't that?

Speaker 8 (15:11):
Is that a woman?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
No? Okay, that's just what came to mind.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
The only other thing I was thinking about was Belle Hooks.
But then I was like, that's really not fiction, and
you know, it's sometimes a tough read.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
I've read a couple of bell Hooks books.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh, I'm sure you have.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
I'm a librarian, though. I'm feeling really good about knowing
these things.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Oh so you know the good books.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Well, no, that doesn't mean you're well read. I have
a film like I have a film degree.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
O la la.

Speaker 8 (15:51):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
I feel I know you did a meditation, but I
feel really amped up, are you?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Oh? Yeah, pretty yeah. Oh, the kettle's boiling. The coffee
is going to be ready soon.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Like coffee, it's a pour over.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Mt me take it off.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
I have a question.

Speaker 9 (16:26):
Yeah, what's a good person? What?

Speaker 7 (16:29):
What makes a good movie?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Sorry? Just moving around some pots and pants on the fire?

Speaker 10 (16:37):
Give me.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
What makes a good person? H what makes a good
librarian or what makes a good person? Those are two different.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
Oh, I got fired.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
I'm not a good librarian.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
But what makes a good person?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
What'd you get fired for? Talking loud?

Speaker 11 (16:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Not putting books back?

Speaker 8 (17:03):
No, I'm good at that.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I'm young.

Speaker 8 (17:06):
I can bet a lot of them, can't.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I will say, so, what were you fired for?

Speaker 8 (17:16):
Nothing? Anyway? What makes a good person?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
This is very I think you're burying delete No, I
want to know why you got fired. I feel like
there must have been a reason. Was it budget cuts?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
No?

Speaker 7 (17:29):
Look, no, I was it wasn't.

Speaker 8 (17:32):
Everybody was mad?

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Why just I was? I?

Speaker 7 (17:38):
Okay, honestly, fuck them? I was sick and they didn't
believe me and they were mean.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Wow. Anyway, glad I dug into that one. What makes
a good person? Hmm?

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Well?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Probably? Well? I think one thing is someone who wants
to be a good person.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
That's that's good.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
Do they think about it a lot or no?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I mean I think if you're striving to be a
good person, it's a daily practice.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Now that kind of makes sense. What if you're obsessed
with it, though, that might just be like disordered.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Do you mean good person like appearances or do you
mean a good person acts.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
I guess that's the question in general of like are
you good because you act good to others? Or do
you seem good?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well? I think it's the whole question of lots of
people in show business whose reputation is that they're so nice,
but then you find out they'll lead assholes. You know,
if you're if your whole obsession is for everyone to
say how nice you are, you might not be that nice.
You might be kind of kicking dirt over a pile

(19:15):
of ship like a mongrel. Yeah, if you're genuinely nice,
there might be texture. My thing is there's texture to humanity.
No one is one thing. Goodbye?

Speaker 6 (19:33):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yes, so Chelsea?

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah are you.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I'm over at my cousin's farm. I'm taking care of
her hands.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yeah that's nice.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Okay, what'd you say?

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (20:10):
Sounds like a monkey.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well, you've clearly never lived on a farm.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
You gotta there, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Ship, here comes trouble.

Speaker 12 (20:37):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Right, m cow's giving birth.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
Cool. You see a lot of that in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Mm hmm. Get out of here, Get out of here? Yeah,
where's that baby? Goat?

Speaker 6 (21:12):
There?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
He is a ham, a cut ham of acute. I know,
have you ever worked on a farm?

Speaker 6 (21:24):
I have not worked at a farm. Now I'm gonna
study boy. Yea, he had a chase show up? Yeah yeah, no,
it's not na guard the goats, guard the cows.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Oh, ship here? You walk to this other? Can I
see any walls from over here? Mm hm, I don't
see them. I think that livestock are safe for now.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
Oh, how's your day going.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Going? It's going really good.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
Yeah, I'm shocked that I'm talking with you. I find
like an answering machine earlier and it tricked me. Sorry,
Oh say, why'd you day go into the while?

Speaker 9 (22:32):
Well?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
I just love tending to livestock. It gives me a
whole new sense of reality.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
Uh huh, connecting with nature kind of.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
H you got back from taking the dog for my walk.
That's my connection of nature.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's awesome. Oh, there's a meeting in the ladies' room.
Be back will soon. Hey, I'm out in the country

(23:25):
attending to my cousin's hen house.

Speaker 9 (23:30):
Those don't sound like hen.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Or me to do.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Have you ever taken care of hence?

Speaker 11 (23:43):
No, but my mother in law and father in law
have some hens.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
All right, hold on, let me get out of here.

Speaker 11 (23:57):
Are you in the henhouse?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
What's up? I'm walking out. Oh boy, it's a nice
morning out in the country. Oh yeah, it feels great
to get away from it all. You know, Yes, I do.

Speaker 11 (24:16):
Yep, I'm I waited at home right now?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Why just because I feel like.

Speaker 11 (24:22):
It don't really feel like being social. I guess yeah,
But I do have a food quiz for you. I guess, Okay,
what do you think about t taron m.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
It's a good question now, I think overall I'm not
that into them, because like I'm not into wagu that much.
Like it's just very fatty and she Tarna is literally fat, right.
I mean I would eat it, but it's just not

(24:55):
gonna be my favorite thing out there. Now, I have
a question for you. Is there ways of eating ches
that is not just plain as there are other things
people are doing. I feel like on Instagram I saw
someone like treating it like a taco shell almost and
putting like guacamole in it and stuff.

Speaker 11 (25:12):
H yeah, I haven't tried that before that this one
really good. But I do put like a just like
sauce called chum oi on it. It's like sweet have
red forty, you know all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
This sounds good. I mean, listen, I'll eat it. You know,
my my B twelve is a little low, so I'm like, okay,
B twelve is in oysters and clams are really high
and B twelve. I just think it is fascinating how
this is going to be so stupid. But how foods
do have different nutrients in them. It's like everything is

(25:48):
how it's meant to be. We're supposed to be eating
these foods to get the things that we need for
our body. How crazy is that?

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Perfectly designed system. Anyhow, I had some liver pati I
guess last night. Do you like that?

Speaker 11 (26:06):
I don't think I've ever had liver wow.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, I think I first tried it in Tuscany and
my friends were eating it, and I thought, again, this
is kind of like my first time eating oysters. I
thought it looked disgusting, but I was like, they're relishing it,
so let me see if I could try it. And
then it was so good. It's like creamy. I think
bad liver would be like very metallic tasting, and yeah,

(26:34):
it would taste like yeah, But when it's good, it's
just like this creamy thing. And then a lot of
times it's on toast and then you put something tangy
like pickled onion or something sweet like a jam with it.
It's so good. I can't eat it all the time
because you know, I think it's not ideal for chlasterol. However,
I do think it also has a lot of nutrients.

Speaker 11 (26:57):
Yeah, I feel like it would have a lot. But yeah,
I don't really know much about liver.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Fava beans reference, Okay, what is in liver? The main nutrient? Oh,
my god, be twelve and iron. Oh, two things that
I'm low on. So I've started putting a little molasses
in my coffee every day to kind of up my
iron a little bit. And I do love liver. Interesting, right,

(27:29):
that is interesting.

Speaker 9 (27:30):
It's like your body just naturally craves that B.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Twelve Maybe so maybe anyway, I'm kind of hungry speaking
of food tests. Anyway, listen, I'm gonna go ahead and
release you from your contract. Okay, okay, all right. So

(27:58):
oh oh oh oh oh oh oh.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Hello hello Chelsea.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (28:08):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (28:08):
I'm great?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Are you talking about relaxing things?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I saw your Yeah? Do you want to go on
a guided visualization?

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (28:17):
I would love to.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Okay, let's go to the jungle. You're walking through a
lush jungle. The animals chatter as if greeting you. They
mean you no harm. You feel your feet in the wet,
fertile earth as you walk through the jungle. All of

(28:46):
a sudden, you come upon the biggest tree you've ever
seen in your life. You're standing at the roots, rooted
in harmony with the earth. You look up and you
see the trees teeming with life as it has been
for hundreds of years. You realize that you, yourself, and your

(29:07):
individual life is just part of a continuum of the
entire earth, in all time and the entire universe. You're
just one small piece.

Speaker 11 (29:20):
Of the puzzle that is profound.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (29:31):
Which rainforests are we in? Are weeah?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Hello?

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Hello?

Speaker 5 (29:47):
How do you feel about cob salad.

Speaker 9 (29:50):
Silence is the peris true.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
I don't really like a salad that is basically sandwich ingredients.
Like I think people need to get more honest with
themselves about, Hey, I hate salad. You know. It's like,
if you're ordering a cob salad, you're basically like, I'm
not a salad guy. You know what I really want
right now is a sandwich. And same with that Chinese

(30:16):
chicken salad. People get like they're like, oh, you gotta
try this Chinese chicken salad. It's like eating handfuls of
sugar with fried like batter and yeah, and chicken and
there's ice, like three pieces of iceberg lettuce in it.
And it's like, honey, this is not a salad.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, you're basically just eating the dressing and the little
bits at the end.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, it's like you're putting dressing on meat and cheese
and calling it a day, which you know is fine.
You know what I used to like in that vague genre.
There used to be a salad at Fred sixty two
that they don't do anymore. So they've changed their menu
like eighty five times since I've lived in Los Angeles,

(31:03):
but they used to do sort of a Waldorf type
salad with like chicken, walnut and grapes, and it was
delicious and it maybe it had blue cheese and that
calm sounds.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Like a salad I used to eat all the time
at this restaurant I worked at, and it had like
a arugula and I think it was blue cheese too,
and grapes and then like sautaid red onions.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Here's my secret. I don't know how I feel about arugula,
you know. I think that it was something that my
mom loved, and I in some way I think of
it as nineties. I feel like it came about as
a as a new green in the nineties and everyone

(31:54):
started doing it. But I have to say, I'm not
crazy about the chewing experience of a regular. It's very
refugee tasting, and it's flavor varies so greatly depending I
think when it's harvested or something from really peppery to
not as peppery. And I don't know. It's funny though,

(32:17):
because a lot of people in my family hate kale
and I love cal I.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Was just gonna say kale. My friend once describe it
as the steak of green I love that, love that. Yeah,
it's like the chewiness or like you just really have
to chew at it.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, but you know there's two there's two things you
can do for that. One is massage it, as we
all know that can kind of soften the kale down,
or also steam it and then put a vinagrette on it.
I love kale. I love kale chips, I love steamed kale,

(32:59):
and I love uh. There's a restaurant in La that
does a kale salad that's extremely garlic ly garlicy with
an extremely kind of lemon zesty flavor that is incredible,
and I've tried to duplicate it, which I can't quite
duplicate it. I've really tried. I don't know what they're

(33:20):
doing that I'm missing, but I can't get the citrus
to come through as hard as they are.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Okay, okay, good.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
I wish I had a list of foods to do
the test or whatever, but that would.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Have been smart.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
I can't think of.

Speaker 13 (33:44):
This podcast. This podcasts tie.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
Listen, the side.

Speaker 10 (34:06):
Listen, side.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
Listen, and nothing.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
This is actually an incredible song that Kojak made. I
love it. I mean it's it's like I couldn't hear
all out of the lyrics. H I hate that, hate
that about my podcast, but I do love I do
love this song. It's like I didn't really know about
every cast, about every podcast clip that I see online.

Speaker 13 (34:34):
In fact, this podcast.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Time, yeah, every every podcast.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Side listen, side.

Speaker 8 (34:54):
Listen and nothing.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
So I had a weird comments section on my last
post of clips in which someone was like mad because
I was saying I don't like it when people post
themselves exercising, and they're like, well, you're posting yourself podcasting.
I'm like, honey, I'm not defending this. I fucking hate podcasts.
I hate the clips. I hate the hot takes, like

(35:19):
me saying that I don't like exercise videos. It has
got you hot under the collar. It's like, honestly, who
cares what I say. I'm not the mayor of social media.
Please feel free to post yourself working out you fucking anyway.
She unfollowed me because I wrote back, wow mind exploding
emoji like fucking break it down, sis, Like, I just

(35:41):
fucking hate when people get so upset about what someone
stupid online says. It's also just like, if you are
following me on Instagram. You know, I'm gonna say dumb
shit and have stupid opinions. Who cares. You don't have
to abide by them. You can continue to post your
stupid fucking exercise videos and pat yourself on the back heartily.

(36:04):
And I'll do that for my comedy exactly.

Speaker 9 (36:07):
Seriously, this actually relates to something that happened a few
years ago. I think it was like Peak twenty twenty,
and you went on Instagram Live and you were like,
how is everybody doing? You know, and I just typed
not good yeah in the comments, and you went off

(36:31):
on really good. It was amazing, it really like it
kind of made my day.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Really, what was I saying? Honestly, twenty twenty not my
best year?

Speaker 9 (36:43):
I mean same here obviously, but like I think it
was even maybe like twenty one or twenty two at
that point.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
That whole span, that whole span was still recovering from it.

Speaker 9 (36:53):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (36:59):
So are you talking about mindfulness today?

Speaker 13 (37:03):
This podcast listen?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I love the soulful clappic and that.

Speaker 13 (37:14):
This poodcasts tie.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Listen, the side.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Listen, side.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Listen and nothing.

Speaker 9 (37:33):
I want you to do it like you know that
podcast song exploder. No, oh, well, it's like a podcast
that kind of breaks down different song. I was just
listening to the one that they did on Lowrider by War.
But anyway, I want you to do that with.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Cool Kojak Oh, okay, thanks, I'll do it.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Kojak is a rolling Stone. I thought he was in
Bold All. Then my friend's like, I think he's in
l A. I'm like, where is this man? Oh, deletest podcast?
Let's see what else we got?

Speaker 5 (38:09):
What?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
What's your what's your what's what's your?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
What's your?

Speaker 8 (38:11):
What's your been? What's your been?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
What you been snacking on?

Speaker 12 (38:15):
What you've been snacking on?

Speaker 8 (38:17):
What you've been snagging? You've been snagging on?

Speaker 1 (38:21):
You've been snacking on?

Speaker 8 (38:23):
That you've been snacking on? Did you be snagging on Devincelucking.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Be snaking snacking off?

Speaker 9 (38:32):
Timoton?

Speaker 12 (38:32):
Then which you've been snacking?

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Snacking? Snacking off Timoton?

Speaker 12 (38:37):
Then which you've been snack you be snagging? What should
it snack all?

Speaker 8 (38:42):
What you been snagging? What would it snacking? What you do.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
The devins looking on?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I like that this song is like it's like when
my mom asked me a question, but then just keeps
talking It's like this song itself asks a question but
never gives you a spot for an answer. What have
you been snacking on?

Speaker 9 (39:12):
So I'm trying to lose late, but I also have
a sweet case, so I've kind of started in building
in nice cream m Have you ever made that? No?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
But you know, I was doing that stupid app for
a while where you can like get red foods and
green foods and yellow foods, and then I couldn't figure
out my password and so I just had to give
up on diet culture. But one of my discoveries, and
that was a Asso bars one hundred calories made with

(39:45):
Greek yogurt mint chip flavor is great and the salted
caramel that said as a fellow's sweet tooth person, And
I truly have trouble trusting people who don't have a
sweet tooth, but I do close friends who prefer salty
to sweet.

Speaker 9 (40:04):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
But anyway, I do think that dark chocolate and nuts
is a good sweet tooth thing. And berries.

Speaker 9 (40:17):
Berries dates. I don't know, are you into dates?

Speaker 10 (40:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Dates are good, really, especially the really good ones that
are really soft, really really soft, like almost like pudding.
And I do really like sliced banana with Greek yogurt,
and I really like like apple, Like putting fruits with
Greek yogurt is very good.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (40:39):
I feel like kind of just replacing like process sugar
stuff with fruit has been working out pretty well.

Speaker 7 (40:46):
But also I totally you.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
Thinking that you also have a sweetcheete just reminded me.
I kind of got so excited. The last couple of
weeks you's been bringing up four and twenty Blackbirds. I
used to work there.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
WHOA give me, give me all the deats. First of all,
that name is so hard to remember. I know four
and twenty Blackbirds. Yes, that is so hard.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (41:13):
I was on the pastry team, so I didn't really
like get to do that much with the pie. Like
the pie people would be coming in by the time
we were like leaving. But you know, once Thanksgiving hit,
it was definitely like thousands of eggs.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (41:33):
It's a cool place.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I don't know, but what was your So you're making pastries?
What pastries do they sell there?

Speaker 9 (41:40):
We would do like a buckwheat flower cake, go like
different kinds of I like buckwheat, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
I like buckweed flowers. It's nutty.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (41:54):
Yeah, yeah, very nutty, very like fluffy, beautiful?

Speaker 1 (41:59):
And then wait, so is it so hard being a patisser?
What do you call it? Patiser?

Speaker 9 (42:05):
Oh? I don't know. I just always tell people that
I was on the pastry team because I didn't go
to school or anything. I feel like I can't claim.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Okay, but to have that skill set and then be
trying to diet must be torture.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Well, because I.

Speaker 9 (42:20):
Did it for so many years. Like now, whenever I
make a pie, I'm like, how the fuck did I
used to make like, you know, a hundred day and
we get in a rhythm. Yeah yeah, So I'm like,
I don't really miss that life at all, Like, what
do you do now a couple? Now I'm a caregiver?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Actually, same same genre? Really, giving pie is giving care? Wow?
Well this is interesting and was it? Is it interesting?
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (42:55):
I don't know if it's interesting to you at least so.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
So so so so soup, so exploring, pack.

Speaker 14 (43:07):
So so soup, so so soup, pizzazza.

Speaker 8 (43:26):
Che chelsy.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
All right, Well, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (43:42):
I was giving kind of kotel.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Oh, I'm hungry. I think this is part of the problem.
I think did I eat breakfast kind of. I had
no have you ever had this? It's like a Chinese
bakery that I went to and they have these like
sponge cake things with the little slippered almonds on top,
and they're meat in the little paper and they're super puffy,

(44:06):
almost like angel food.

Speaker 9 (44:07):
Take yes, uh yeah, I freaking love those things. They
have them at Like whenever I go visit my dad,
we usually hit up a Chinese house and then I
just like end up having like three of those.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
They're so good. Yeah, so I had that in coffee.
But let me tell you, I'm starving. I don't know why.
Maybe I had a really big workout yesterday.

Speaker 9 (44:32):
You got to get some protein. That's what I've been
like hearing that you have to eat a lot of protein.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
I know.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Here's my secret. I don't like protein that much. Like
I don't like sitting around eating meat. Yeah, you know
what else has protein? Nuts tofu beans, All those things
are like the least sexy things on the eating agenda.

Speaker 9 (44:56):
For me pretty much. I had to like a like
looked it up and like took the screenshot and like
have a picture saved of all the things that have
high proteins, just because I'm like, I guess.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
I got it.

Speaker 9 (45:07):
There are some nuts on there?

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, I do, like I have been having as a
snack an apple and a handful of walnuts. Doesn't sound good,
but if you've ever had heros it it's kind of
in that family, and it's kind of a good snack.
They go together well, the fattiness of the walnut and
the tartness of the apple. It's kind of like a

(45:33):
quick DIY version, so that I would recommend. And also
walnuts are weirdly good for cholesterol, which counterintuitive because they
taste very fatty.

Speaker 7 (45:46):
All right, bye bye?

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Hello, Hey Kelsey?

Speaker 8 (45:53):
Hi there, Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 14 (45:58):
Broken?

Speaker 9 (46:03):
How are you right?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
All right?

Speaker 8 (46:06):
I'm great?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I have.

Speaker 8 (46:09):
Is there a topic today?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
I mean, there was trying to be like a guided visualization,
but then half my callers can't see things in their
head at all because they have this condition called like
I don't know what it's called. I keep forgetting it
sounds like a sphasia or a fantasia, so you know,
I don't know. And then also like it's it was
just ill conceived. So have I abandoned it? Midway?

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Do I have therapy in five minutes yell, huh am,
I still here.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, I have a fighter.

Speaker 8 (46:42):
Well it could be classified as an animal attack, but
it's technically a spider bite.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Will I be late to therapy? Yeah, okay, I can
do it a under Okay, okay, let's hear your spider byke.

Speaker 6 (46:56):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (46:57):
So I live in a place where we have browner
sloot spiders.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, and they're very tall.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
They hide in the in the same training.

Speaker 12 (47:07):
And so my girlfriend was in our shed cleaning it out,
and we did not know that there was like a
browner flues called me living in our sheds, and she
was wearing jeans, and one of them called up her
pantlets invites her like in the.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
Back of the sigh.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
No.

Speaker 8 (47:27):
Yeah, And at first she just thought that she just
like got bitten by a bug. Well, I mean, I
guess she did, but she was just like whatever, it's
no big deal, Like we get lots of bug bites.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I live in the South.

Speaker 8 (47:41):
So she went to bed and overnight she like broke
out and sweat and like had full body chills and
like a fever and like very high blood pressure, and
she was bitten by browner glues. Were like found them
later in the shed and over the course of like
three months, it ate like r the flesh of her

(48:03):
leg to wards like the size of a quarter, but
just like pretty much rotting flesh. I'm not I don't
really know what you call it. She's a nurse.

Speaker 9 (48:13):
She would be.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Upset, Like I think she might call it necrotic flesh.

Speaker 8 (48:19):
That's exactly what it was, like, exactly like a little kit.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Crazy shout out to the medical community.

Speaker 8 (48:28):
Nexotic. Yeah, but yeah, it takes three months for it
to like not be an open wound anymore, and she
uh like doctored it every single day and took really
good care of it. But it was like starting to tunnel, which.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Kind of kind of like underneath kind of like fantastic
mister Fox like the Foxes.

Speaker 8 (48:51):
Exactly, so she like still has a bit in her
leg where the spider bite.

Speaker 10 (49:01):
Was like sure, sure, sure a divot, sure great, great, sure,
sure sure sure sure here, sure sure sure.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
You know spiders, you.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
Know that's paranoia for sure?

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Thank you, yeah, thank you. Okay, My question is this, hey,
brown recluse spiders, you want to be a bit more reclusive.
This one sounded like a bit of an e NTP,
a little bit of a partier, someone who's you know,
it's like, please live up to your name, be a recluse,

(49:41):
go in fucking put newspapers on your windows. Please go.

Speaker 8 (49:46):
Yeah, I think like our only theory. She was wearing
pants and my shoes. It wasn't I feel like she
was being as prepared as she could, but wasn't expecting.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
You got a rubber band or cuffs.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
Right, like you need some like real real protection. But
we think it like climbed up her paint leg until
the jeans that got tight and then it because usually
like if you put your foot in your shoe and
there's one it'll like bite you on the toe when
it feels like it.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Listen, I don't want to tell you, but don't think
every time I put my shoes on, I'm not blowing
into them and stepping on the toes, because honey, I am.
And when I was in Costa Rica, I'm gonna step
on those toes from the top, gonna look inside the
heel and see if anything is emerging. I'm gonna blow
into a shoe and guess what if something blows back,

(50:36):
I'm running out of the house.

Speaker 8 (50:38):
Yeah at a bear. Yeah, I saw a spider. Web
in one of my shoes yesterday and I and they
thank you to just like it outside.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Have you all have you ever considered moving?

Speaker 6 (50:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (50:51):
But what about why don't you get someone to spray
for the spiders in your shed?

Speaker 8 (50:56):
Well, our seat is decrepit. It is it's like ancient
and it leaks, so I think it's I think we're
just going to tear it down.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Are you familiar with wiley coyote? Why don't you just
blast that whole shed to smithereens with?

Speaker 8 (51:12):
Yeah, they could use it. It's invested. Yeah, but yeah,
I think best practice. Check the shoes get bitten. These
spiders are so tiny, but I try not to leave
a paranoid life.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
They're tiny.

Speaker 8 (51:26):
How tiny I mean, they're like there, I would say
they're like a small to medium spider, but they're brown,
and they're like they're not incredibly easy to see, like,
they're very flat, they lay very flat in things.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
You know what you should do? Go into that shed
and just spray painted white every single thing in there,
so at least you can see them with spray painted
neon green inside, so every.

Speaker 9 (51:51):
Spider like light pant.

Speaker 8 (51:54):
But they they have like a fiddle on their back.
That's how you're supposed to identify them, but not like
trying to get close enough to one to be.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
That's like a fiddle approximation, right yeah wow, so yeah.
I mean the thing is, of course, I've read about
brown recluses before, and the comfort with them is that
they just aren't fatal, like black widows can be fatal, right.

Speaker 12 (52:24):
I think so?

Speaker 8 (52:26):
I heard I've heard a story of like a friend
of a friend who got bitten on the head, like
on the scalp, which like I don't really want to
think about, but apparently like one dropped under her head
and bit her scalp and it like affected her brain.
She may have died, so I mean she may have. Yeah,
it's like a friend of a friend. I feel like
I heard this story like third hand, but who knows.

(52:48):
But I feel like if you get bitten in a
certain spot, like the way that my girlfriend's spider bite
like really went to town and started like getting deep,
if there was something major under there, it would have
been bad. But luckily it was like a muscily fleshy
part of your body, so it just was like just
hurt for three months.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, I guess will on that. I guess we'll end
on that since I have therapy now. Yea, what a sash?
What a sash? Thank you great up quote unquote great
quote unquote app quote unquote Bye,
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