August 6, 2025 • 17 mins
Wake up feeling like you burned the midnight oil even if you were in bed by 9? There might be an underlying reason behind that groggy, puffy vibe.
Camilla reveals her own diagnosis, and no it’s NOT perimenopause. Hear why it could be time to stop gaslighting your own body and block the fake TikTok docs!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Ludington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Call It Crew, and welcome
to another episode of Short and Sweet. Kimila is new
RX at CVS.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Do we have a new one? We did?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You put our notifications on listen? There's a new one
out there and we're going to talk about it today.
We joke that the Call It crew know are RX
and could go pick it up for us. And in
the spirit of what the podcast has always been and
what we've always set out to do, we set out
to share all the things and be open in the
(00:57):
hopes that sharing our stories my resonate with somebody else
or make somebody feel a little less alone in their experience.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And this is one of those. This is one of
those episodes.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, where we were, You're seen and heard and brought
into you know, this is something that uh, I mean truly,
It's like when you get phone calls from friends where
something important is going on. I don't know about you,
but I remember where I always remember where I was
when I got a phone call that was like, there's
this thing happening in my life, and I remember exactly
(01:29):
where I was when I got.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
A phone call from you saying there's this thing going
on in my life. And I was like, okay, and
I remember it.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You know, it's the drop everything, and I'm here for
a moment and I'm so happy that you're now.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You know, we're going to We're going to share it.
We're going to share it. We we are going to
share it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We are going to share it because Jess and I
the journey is ours together.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
We don't do things alone.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
We die.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
As long as you've been listening to us, you've known
that I joke about being slowsy, just a little slower,
just a little Your pace is just a little slower, tired,
want to be in bed, love a n app. It
never occurred to me that there could be a medical
reason for that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And that's and that's where we've landed. You thought it
was a temperament thing.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I did.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So here, Well, let me take you back, guys, back
a little bit. So every year you're supposed to have
blood work. I had mine about eighteen months ago, and
so I was due and it was hiatus and I
was like, I had all these plans and I was like,
you know what, I'm gonna get all my ducks in order,
and I row whatever you say, and I'm gonna do
my blood work and make sure everything's all good. And
(02:39):
uh so, I want to say about two and a
half months ago, now still very recent, I had blood
work and it came back and my doctor was like,
everything looks great except this one little thing. And I
remember hearing the words autoimmune disease and thinking what the fuck,
and and then being told that I had something called
(03:02):
Hashimoto's hypothyroidism and that it was very common.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
And so I want to talk about what that is.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
But when you when you heard the doctor say that,
what was your first reaction.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I heard the.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Words autoimmune disease, and I, you know what, I knew
something was up because even when I was having my
blood drawn, the doctor said to me, is there any
you know, particular thing you're concerned about? And I said, look,
I'm really looking tired all the time. I'm wondering if
I'm in perimenopause. And I remember thinking it's got to
(03:40):
be that or I'm deficient in something and I'm going
to figure it out. And I wanted to have the answer,
and so truly, when they said autoimmune disease. I you know,
I was a little freaked out. And then when they
said it's really common, I was like, well that sucks,
but okay. And then honestly I was relieved. I felt
like I had the answer for something that I've been
knowing is going on. And I have health anxiety, So
(04:02):
there was a part of me that was like, am
I gaslighting myself?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And then I think I probably called you, yeah, like
an outlet, ok right, And I sat with Matt and
I and I talked to my doctor, and I wanted
to know what it what it was.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And also I mean in my memory when you called me,
I remember saying because I remember you being low key,
you were feeling very I heard you feeling very lucky
that you had the resources to go check it out
and find it out. And at the same time, you
were a little bit like, oh, there's something wrong with me, right,
(04:42):
Like there's that thing where you whenever anyone gets a diagnosis,
it's like, the good news is there's something wrong with
you that explains why you feel X, Y or Z,
But then the bad news is there's something wrong with me.
And I didn't hear you being scared or completely overwhelmed
by it. But I heard you having feelings and being
like whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And then I remember.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Thinking, wow, I know a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Like hold on again. There's safety and numbers on some level,
which is such a strange human thing that we do,
but we do. It's like if someone else feels it,
it's the whole you know. I don't love this part,
but misery loves company rightly, when you're not feeling when
you're feeling a little vulnerable, you want to know that
someone else is feeling vulnerable in that same way.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, like, giv me names, capital, giv me numbers.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, but I had them.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I knew a lot of people, so yeah, it was Yes,
it was very helpful to have you be like, well,
I actually know people that have this and this is
sort of their experience.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I will talk about.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The ticktok of it all, because there was this piece
that ended up making me feel a certain way. But
let me just talk about what this is for anyone
listening that doesn't know what this is. So Hashimotos is
when your body's immune system accidentally attacks your thyroid, which
is a little gland in your neck that helps control
your energy, aka makes you a little slothy. Okay, so
(06:04):
over time the damage it does it makes the thyroid
slow down and stop making enough hormones. And what it
can make you feel is tired and cold, which is
really funny because Matt would make fun of me because
I'd have like forty blankets on me at night. It
can make you foggy, depressed, you can have dry skin,
your hair can thin waking. Basically you're feeling gorgeous with ashmos.
(06:29):
Yeah yeah, so that was what was the one.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
What was the symptom that was the most n something's
not right, like cold at night.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Okay, we're all you know what tired was?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Really it got to the point where I I thought,
here's what I thought. I thought, like, I have two kids,
I'm in my forties. This is what the forties is.
You know, I have I have jobs to do, I
have I'm maybe im perimenopause the thing. So, but it
got to the point where, like by eleven a m
I felt like I had like chug some benadrol and
(07:00):
I needed to nap. It didn't matter how much sleep
I'd gotten the night before. There was no pushing through
the day like sometimes you can, like you know, you're tired,
but you can push through it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
There was none of that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
There was an even I remember, you know, back when
I used to really be working out all the time,
which now makes sense why I'm like I haven't been.
I would feel energized after it workout, and if I
worked out in the past year, I would It would
just take me out to the point where I was like,
I can't work out, like it's just I'm going to
be too tired after. But the thing that was really
strange actually was the week before I was waking up
(07:34):
on my face and my hands were really swollen. So
I was like very confused as to why I was
suddenly looking so swollen in my eyes, my rings where
I was having trouble taking my rings off.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
What was the tipping point that made you get the
blood work done or was it just scheduled, you know what.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I wanted to get it done, and then that actually
scheduled his and I said, just have me do mine
because I had scheduled blood work maybe six months before,
but I'd gotten sick and I was like, I don't
want to do it while I'm sick, maybe it'll throw
something off. Let me just do this.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And I want to explain.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So what So basically, this is how I was in
I had severe hypoth thyroidism three months ago. I so
you're hang on one second, I want to make sure.
So there's something called a ts H thyroid stimulating hormone.
So what you your level for that for TSH normal
(08:27):
range is point five to four point five. I was
at ninety seven point five. So I my doctor I
remember saying like, I don't know how you're functioning. WHOA,
there is medicine you can take for it. Did you
feel relieved when you found that you did, because I
felt like I was. Sometimes when you have like health anxiety,
(08:49):
you feel you do feel like you're like gaslighting yourself.
I was like, you, nothing's wrong, like I'm crazy. This
is one of those things where it's like here we
go Luddington and so I remember the big after being
told like listen, this is you know, we have a
way to like control this and treatment and everything. I
felt more calm about it, and then the relief was
just really.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Huge, which is what I when I told you.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I remember saying to you, I just feel relieved knowing
that like I'm not crazy, yeah you.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Know, and then you can do something.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, And I also to be honest, like he was
getting to the point where I was like, wow, like
this is hard to live this way. I didn't realize
how exhausted my body was. And so there is medication.
(09:49):
So what do you do now? Okay, So now I'm
on a medication called Levo thyro scene. If you guys
you know, need to pick it up for me from
CVS in Los Angeles, please do, I would say me
in the drive and I'm I started on the lowest
dose of that and I had to have blood work
every six weeks and it's the test to see me
getting back to normal.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Did they tell you how long it would take to
feel the effects of it?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, they said they said I would start to feel
the effects of it, but I'm still not normal, like
I got tested maybe three weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Again, do you feel the effects? I feel.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I definitely feel the effects like I started. How long
did it take, m I want to say, a couple
of months? Wow? Okay, Yes, I took a couple of months.
And I returned you guys to Barry's boot camp. I
did it all last week.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's true. I talked to her.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
She had to go.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I did she had to go because she had to
go into class. I had to go.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I was like, Jess, no big deal, but like, I'm
an athlete.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Now she was wearing those legans.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I was wearing the legands. I was wearing the gear
at her. But here's here's what.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I also want to talk about. Because I'm on you know,
I'm on the road to recovery. It's going to be
a journey. I always people have flare ups and everything.
I want to get a doctor on the show that
specialized in this because I think that I did what
so many people do. And then this is where it
gets overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You googled.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I went on tiktoktok, and I was like, where are
my hash mode of girly? Is it.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Hashtag hash? And so I went on and everyone's.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
A sucking doctor, Jess.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
That's why I thought you were to say.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That the Google or the chat and I got sucked
into about five. Yeah, I was gonna say, because isn't
there also some dietary stuff that you can do that's different. Yes, Well,
they say the talk doctors are the talkers. Some doctors,
like for example, I got tested and I maybe the
talctors the doctor the talctor, look at me.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I never do something, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The doctors are saying no gluten, no daar, no plastics, no,
like there's a there's so much stuff like get a
humidifi er, get that, And I'm like, I got some
Is there dust on the ground?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Don't don't know?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Dust? You know? And so I could.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Also spend a lot of money, right, just like trying
like you need you need this supplement.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You're missing this and your doctor isn't telling you this.
And so for anyone out there going through this, whether
it's a new diagnosis or you've sat with it for
a long time, it's so overwhelming to know what's up,
what's down, what's left, what's right, what I should be doing,
what I shouldn't be doing. And yes, I do feel
a lot better. My energy is a lot better. I'm
(12:43):
not as puffy anymore. There's so many things that I
feel like are already improving. But this is how common
it is. About five to ten percent of people in
the US have it. Most cases of hypothiorid does a
ninety percent are caused by hashimotos. It is up to
ten times more calmon in women than men. We're so
lucky we get to have it all and you often
(13:06):
get the diagnosis between thirty and fifty.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Bam, I'm right in the middle there, but it can
happen earlier or later.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So it is one of the most common autoimmune diseases
out there, according to my chat get.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, so this is this short and suite is sort
of like an introduction to something that I believe will
be ongoing a little bit. We're going to get an
expert in.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, the friends that I have, I mean even I
mean many friends who also h sort of bring in
through socials that they do create community and just sort
of share what has worked for them or what doesn't
work for them, or you know, just.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Pass on information.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What did I mean, like, what advice would you give
to someone who you who said I mean, if someone
said to you, I'm feeling a little slothy, would you.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Say, honestly, I think you know you You're so good
at this.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I know you.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You get blood tests, like I want to say, every
six months.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I do. I like, it's it's a weekly, it's weekly.
It's amist on the side, I do it myself. Yes,
why not just test it for the day.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I would be more on it I was late to
testing my doing my annual and maybe six months ago
I wouldn't have been so severe. I would be six
months ahead of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So just be on top of it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
But also I think like, let's not let's not just
lean into like, oh, I'm just crazy, mom, And that's
in this way, like these things really are real and
that that you're feeling and maybe it's a deficiency, maybe
it's something else, but like try and find out the answer.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
No, your intuition means something. You need to trust yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'm very proud of you because I think that a
lot of times when one is dealing with health anxiety,
they can oftentimes just do the and not make their
yearlys and not get their blood work done because their
anxiety sort of paralyzes them. I mean, it just sort
(15:06):
of like stops them from going togs.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Like recently, this is like a sometimes it's a trigger
to have to wait for the results and all of this.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yes, so I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm proud of you because I know because because by
the way, there's lots of things in life that we
have to get checked on, you know, here and there,
and and I always feel not to sound Pollyanna about it.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But I do. I just I never take health care
for granted.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
We have a very broken system in this country that
that quite frankly doesn't take care of most of the people.
And so whenever I see the opportunity to check things
and get the care that I need, or go and
ask a doctor, I feel very, very very grateful. So
where there is help in the world and you can
go get it, you know, I just think we really should.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's not to be taken for granted.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
But so so I think this will be.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
It sounds to me like this is a to be continued.
We're going to go on a little journey with you.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yes, and I and I want to bring anyone else
along for this ride that that also is experiencing this
or hyper thyroidism or graze disease. And I want to
talk to some experts and and here's an opportunity for
you guys to write into us. What questions do you have?
I have so many, but I want to hear your list.
(16:19):
Maybe you guys are thinking about stuff that I'm not
thinking about, and we're gonna have somebody on that could
hopefully answer all these all these things for us. So Yes,
it's a to be continued onwards and upwards.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Ludington.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yes, and we're just gonna we're gonna catch it and
just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimming.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know what's good?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Is it? Like I literally could not have swum very
far before and now I can find you can.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Wait on our next trip, I'm gonna you're gonna be
you're gonna be leading me.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
There will be no taxiing, only walking.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But let's call it like, yes, this is we're calling
it Charles.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The end of the episode, m
Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Ludington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Call It Crew, and welcome
to another episode of Short and Sweet. Kimila is new
RX at CVS.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Do we have a new one? We did?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You put our notifications on listen? There's a new one
out there and we're going to talk about it today.
We joke that the Call It crew know are RX
and could go pick it up for us. And in
the spirit of what the podcast has always been and
what we've always set out to do, we set out
to share all the things and be open in the
(00:57):
hopes that sharing our stories my resonate with somebody else
or make somebody feel a little less alone in their experience.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And this is one of those. This is one of
those episodes.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, where we were, You're seen and heard and brought
into you know, this is something that uh, I mean truly,
It's like when you get phone calls from friends where
something important is going on. I don't know about you,
but I remember where I always remember where I was
when I got a phone call that was like, there's
this thing happening in my life, and I remember exactly
(01:29):
where I was when I got.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
A phone call from you saying there's this thing going
on in my life. And I was like, okay, and
I remember it.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You know, it's the drop everything, and I'm here for
a moment and I'm so happy that you're now.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You know, we're going to We're going to share it.
We're going to share it. We we are going to
share it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We are going to share it because Jess and I
the journey is ours together.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
We don't do things alone.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
We die.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
As long as you've been listening to us, you've known
that I joke about being slowsy, just a little slower,
just a little Your pace is just a little slower, tired,
want to be in bed, love a n app. It
never occurred to me that there could be a medical
reason for that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And that's and that's where we've landed. You thought it
was a temperament thing.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I did.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So here, Well, let me take you back, guys, back
a little bit. So every year you're supposed to have
blood work. I had mine about eighteen months ago, and
so I was due and it was hiatus and I
was like, I had all these plans and I was like,
you know what, I'm gonna get all my ducks in order,
and I row whatever you say, and I'm gonna do
my blood work and make sure everything's all good. And
(02:39):
uh so, I want to say about two and a
half months ago, now still very recent, I had blood
work and it came back and my doctor was like,
everything looks great except this one little thing. And I
remember hearing the words autoimmune disease and thinking what the fuck,
and and then being told that I had something called
(03:02):
Hashimoto's hypothyroidism and that it was very common.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
And so I want to talk about what that is.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
But when you when you heard the doctor say that,
what was your first reaction.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I heard the.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Words autoimmune disease, and I, you know what, I knew
something was up because even when I was having my
blood drawn, the doctor said to me, is there any
you know, particular thing you're concerned about? And I said, look,
I'm really looking tired all the time. I'm wondering if
I'm in perimenopause. And I remember thinking it's got to
(03:40):
be that or I'm deficient in something and I'm going
to figure it out. And I wanted to have the answer,
and so truly, when they said autoimmune disease. I you know,
I was a little freaked out. And then when they
said it's really common, I was like, well that sucks,
but okay. And then honestly I was relieved. I felt
like I had the answer for something that I've been
knowing is going on. And I have health anxiety, So
(04:02):
there was a part of me that was like, am
I gaslighting myself?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And then I think I probably called you, yeah, like
an outlet, ok right, And I sat with Matt and
I and I talked to my doctor, and I wanted
to know what it what it was.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And also I mean in my memory when you called me,
I remember saying because I remember you being low key,
you were feeling very I heard you feeling very lucky
that you had the resources to go check it out
and find it out. And at the same time, you
were a little bit like, oh, there's something wrong with me, right,
(04:42):
Like there's that thing where you whenever anyone gets a diagnosis,
it's like, the good news is there's something wrong with
you that explains why you feel X, Y or Z,
But then the bad news is there's something wrong with me.
And I didn't hear you being scared or completely overwhelmed
by it. But I heard you having feelings and being
like whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And then I remember.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Thinking, wow, I know a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Like hold on again. There's safety and numbers on some level,
which is such a strange human thing that we do,
but we do. It's like if someone else feels it,
it's the whole you know. I don't love this part,
but misery loves company rightly, when you're not feeling when
you're feeling a little vulnerable, you want to know that
someone else is feeling vulnerable in that same way.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, like, giv me names, capital, giv me numbers.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, but I had them.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I knew a lot of people, so yeah, it was Yes,
it was very helpful to have you be like, well,
I actually know people that have this and this is
sort of their experience.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I will talk about.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The ticktok of it all, because there was this piece
that ended up making me feel a certain way. But
let me just talk about what this is for anyone
listening that doesn't know what this is. So Hashimotos is
when your body's immune system accidentally attacks your thyroid, which
is a little gland in your neck that helps control
your energy, aka makes you a little slothy. Okay, so
(06:04):
over time the damage it does it makes the thyroid
slow down and stop making enough hormones. And what it
can make you feel is tired and cold, which is
really funny because Matt would make fun of me because
I'd have like forty blankets on me at night. It
can make you foggy, depressed, you can have dry skin,
your hair can thin waking. Basically you're feeling gorgeous with ashmos.
(06:29):
Yeah yeah, so that was what was the one.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
What was the symptom that was the most n something's
not right, like cold at night.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Okay, we're all you know what tired was?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Really it got to the point where I I thought,
here's what I thought. I thought, like, I have two kids,
I'm in my forties. This is what the forties is.
You know, I have I have jobs to do, I
have I'm maybe im perimenopause the thing. So, but it
got to the point where, like by eleven a m
I felt like I had like chug some benadrol and
(07:00):
I needed to nap. It didn't matter how much sleep
I'd gotten the night before. There was no pushing through
the day like sometimes you can, like you know, you're tired,
but you can push through it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
There was none of that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
There was an even I remember, you know, back when
I used to really be working out all the time,
which now makes sense why I'm like I haven't been.
I would feel energized after it workout, and if I
worked out in the past year, I would It would
just take me out to the point where I was like,
I can't work out, like it's just I'm going to
be too tired after. But the thing that was really
strange actually was the week before I was waking up
(07:34):
on my face and my hands were really swollen. So
I was like very confused as to why I was
suddenly looking so swollen in my eyes, my rings where
I was having trouble taking my rings off.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
What was the tipping point that made you get the
blood work done or was it just scheduled, you know what.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I wanted to get it done, and then that actually
scheduled his and I said, just have me do mine
because I had scheduled blood work maybe six months before,
but I'd gotten sick and I was like, I don't
want to do it while I'm sick, maybe it'll throw
something off. Let me just do this.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And I want to explain.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So what So basically, this is how I was in
I had severe hypoth thyroidism three months ago. I so
you're hang on one second, I want to make sure.
So there's something called a ts H thyroid stimulating hormone.
So what you your level for that for TSH normal
(08:27):
range is point five to four point five. I was
at ninety seven point five. So I my doctor I
remember saying like, I don't know how you're functioning. WHOA,
there is medicine you can take for it. Did you
feel relieved when you found that you did, because I
felt like I was. Sometimes when you have like health anxiety,
(08:49):
you feel you do feel like you're like gaslighting yourself.
I was like, you, nothing's wrong, like I'm crazy. This
is one of those things where it's like here we
go Luddington and so I remember the big after being
told like listen, this is you know, we have a
way to like control this and treatment and everything. I
felt more calm about it, and then the relief was
just really.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Huge, which is what I when I told you.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I remember saying to you, I just feel relieved knowing
that like I'm not crazy, yeah you.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Know, and then you can do something.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, And I also to be honest, like he was
getting to the point where I was like, wow, like
this is hard to live this way. I didn't realize
how exhausted my body was. And so there is medication.
(09:49):
So what do you do now? Okay, So now I'm
on a medication called Levo thyro scene. If you guys
you know, need to pick it up for me from
CVS in Los Angeles, please do, I would say me
in the drive and I'm I started on the lowest
dose of that and I had to have blood work
every six weeks and it's the test to see me
getting back to normal.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Did they tell you how long it would take to
feel the effects of it?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, they said they said I would start to feel
the effects of it, but I'm still not normal, like
I got tested maybe three weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Again, do you feel the effects? I feel.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I definitely feel the effects like I started. How long
did it take, m I want to say, a couple
of months? Wow? Okay, Yes, I took a couple of months.
And I returned you guys to Barry's boot camp. I
did it all last week.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's true. I talked to her.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
She had to go.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I did she had to go because she had to
go into class. I had to go.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I was like, Jess, no big deal, but like, I'm
an athlete.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Now she was wearing those legans.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I was wearing the legands. I was wearing the gear
at her. But here's here's what.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I also want to talk about. Because I'm on you know,
I'm on the road to recovery. It's going to be
a journey. I always people have flare ups and everything.
I want to get a doctor on the show that
specialized in this because I think that I did what
so many people do. And then this is where it
gets overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You googled.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I went on tiktoktok, and I was like, where are
my hash mode of girly? Is it.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Hashtag hash? And so I went on and everyone's.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
A sucking doctor, Jess.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
That's why I thought you were to say.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That the Google or the chat and I got sucked
into about five. Yeah, I was gonna say, because isn't
there also some dietary stuff that you can do that's different. Yes, Well,
they say the talk doctors are the talkers. Some doctors,
like for example, I got tested and I maybe the
talctors the doctor the talctor, look at me.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I never do something, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The doctors are saying no gluten, no daar, no plastics, no,
like there's a there's so much stuff like get a
humidifi er, get that, And I'm like, I got some
Is there dust on the ground?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Don't don't know?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Dust? You know? And so I could.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Also spend a lot of money, right, just like trying
like you need you need this supplement.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You're missing this and your doctor isn't telling you this.
And so for anyone out there going through this, whether
it's a new diagnosis or you've sat with it for
a long time, it's so overwhelming to know what's up,
what's down, what's left, what's right, what I should be doing,
what I shouldn't be doing. And yes, I do feel
a lot better. My energy is a lot better. I'm
(12:43):
not as puffy anymore. There's so many things that I
feel like are already improving. But this is how common
it is. About five to ten percent of people in
the US have it. Most cases of hypothiorid does a
ninety percent are caused by hashimotos. It is up to
ten times more calmon in women than men. We're so
lucky we get to have it all and you often
(13:06):
get the diagnosis between thirty and fifty.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Bam, I'm right in the middle there, but it can
happen earlier or later.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So it is one of the most common autoimmune diseases
out there, according to my chat get.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, so this is this short and suite is sort
of like an introduction to something that I believe will
be ongoing a little bit. We're going to get an
expert in.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, the friends that I have, I mean even I
mean many friends who also h sort of bring in
through socials that they do create community and just sort
of share what has worked for them or what doesn't
work for them, or you know, just.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Pass on information.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What did I mean, like, what advice would you give
to someone who you who said I mean, if someone
said to you, I'm feeling a little slothy, would you.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Say, honestly, I think you know you You're so good
at this.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I know you.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You get blood tests, like I want to say, every
six months.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I do. I like, it's it's a weekly, it's weekly.
It's amist on the side, I do it myself. Yes,
why not just test it for the day.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I would be more on it I was late to
testing my doing my annual and maybe six months ago
I wouldn't have been so severe. I would be six
months ahead of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So just be on top of it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
But also I think like, let's not let's not just
lean into like, oh, I'm just crazy, mom, And that's
in this way, like these things really are real and
that that you're feeling and maybe it's a deficiency, maybe
it's something else, but like try and find out the answer.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
No, your intuition means something. You need to trust yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'm very proud of you because I think that a
lot of times when one is dealing with health anxiety,
they can oftentimes just do the and not make their
yearlys and not get their blood work done because their
anxiety sort of paralyzes them. I mean, it just sort
(15:06):
of like stops them from going togs.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Like recently, this is like a sometimes it's a trigger
to have to wait for the results and all of this.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yes, so I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm proud of you because I know because because by
the way, there's lots of things in life that we
have to get checked on, you know, here and there,
and and I always feel not to sound Pollyanna about it.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But I do. I just I never take health care
for granted.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
We have a very broken system in this country that
that quite frankly doesn't take care of most of the people.
And so whenever I see the opportunity to check things
and get the care that I need, or go and
ask a doctor, I feel very, very very grateful. So
where there is help in the world and you can
go get it, you know, I just think we really should.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's not to be taken for granted.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
But so so I think this will be.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
It sounds to me like this is a to be continued.
We're going to go on a little journey with you.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yes, and I and I want to bring anyone else
along for this ride that that also is experiencing this
or hyper thyroidism or graze disease. And I want to
talk to some experts and and here's an opportunity for
you guys to write into us. What questions do you have?
I have so many, but I want to hear your list.
(16:19):
Maybe you guys are thinking about stuff that I'm not
thinking about, and we're gonna have somebody on that could
hopefully answer all these all these things for us. So Yes,
it's a to be continued onwards and upwards.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Ludington.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yes, and we're just gonna we're gonna catch it and
just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimming.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know what's good?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Is it? Like I literally could not have swum very
far before and now I can find you can.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Wait on our next trip, I'm gonna you're gonna be
you're gonna be leading me.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
There will be no taxiing, only walking.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But let's call it like, yes, this is we're calling
it Charles.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The end of the episode, m
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Camilla Luddington
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